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Speaker 3: He's a fan favorite, and I think you plic I

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Speaker 3: give more credit to the fans. I'm waiting for.

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Speaker 2: That to prove military is on the ballot. He will

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Speaker 3: We've been doing this.

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Speaker 2: I tell the story about going to Nashville for a

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Speaker 2: never gonna get in. Why don't they just take his

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Speaker 3: Will Campbell was not good at his position. That's a

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Speaker 4: He plays guard.

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Speaker 3: I know when that's but that's not good value.

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Speaker 2: Get about the bas but we've already established that isn't

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Speaker 3: If Mason Graham is not a very good defensive tackle,

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Speaker 3: good at it, just like the guy who can't play time.

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Speaker 2: He can be good at guard. And there's a program

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Speaker 7: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Joe Milton no longer a Patriot according to reports.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, funny because we recorded Patriots Draft countdown yesterday and

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Speaker 8: posted it and we had the exact discussion of is

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Speaker 8: it worth it to trade him?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 8: What kind of value would you want back? And I

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Speaker 2: Are we certain on what that is?

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Speaker 4: I don't know how we know that. It's pick one

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Speaker 4: seventy one for pick two seventeen and Joe Milton. So

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Speaker 4: the Patriots now have one to seventy one in the

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Speaker 4: fifth round in the fifth round, correct, which was a

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Speaker 8: That does close a sizeable gap that the team had

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Speaker 8: between their other picks. So I mean, I'm not you know,

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Speaker 8: yesterday we all said, I mean, I think Paul you said, Evan,

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Speaker 3: Two two pick. Yeah, the day two pick is what

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Speaker 3: I if I was going to move him because he's young,

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Speaker 3: with him, isn't that more valuable than moving him for

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Speaker 3: a swap of what would you say about forty forty

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, maybe they didn't see the value

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Speaker 2: So I go back to our conversation when Joe Milton

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Speaker 3: In the back of my mind all morning?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So now two years later, is it maybe you know,

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Speaker 8: One year later, That's why I know about it.

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Speaker 4: That's the only explanation I can get to that makes

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Speaker 4: And it's Drake May's team, it's Drake May's quarterback room,

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Speaker 4: and there's no you know, Joe Milton in the background.

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Speaker 4: I'm the same Joe Milton did anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: And don't rule out his agent like going to Patriots

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Speaker 2: Don't rule that out that the agent's part of this too,

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Speaker 3: Get a great point. Fred I wouldn't be shocked at

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Speaker 3: all if Milton was driving this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there are a little bit of reporting in that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: just look at he's going to doubts like a sixty

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Speaker 8: Distraction, it's a destroyer.

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Speaker 4: It might have helped his trade value, but it might

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Speaker 2: So Joe Milton off the team. We can put that

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Speaker 8: Get ready. I also just wanted to point out there

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Speaker 3: So Freddy and I were playing a little catch up

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Speaker 10: I find it hard to believe too, because like, you're gonna,

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Speaker 3: Not only a guy that has been on the team

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Speaker 10: Like what do you owe Joe Milton?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I think this might be one of

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Speaker 8: Left a squirt rounder on the table. Correct, But it'll

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Speaker 2: That'll go to that question on the show. So when

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Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels is speaking today, a lot going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think if it's all right, Evan and I

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Speaker 8: You know, they don't know who the deuce is yet, right,

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Speaker 3: So I would admit to being a little surprised that

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Speaker 3: the compensation anything like that. That to me is about what

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Speaker 3: I was expecting something day three issue. But I thought

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Speaker 3: little surprised they made the trade.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because the news broke while Paul and

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Speaker 2: I were in the Hall of Fame committee, and I

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Speaker 4: And I just think the compensation it doesn't surprise me

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Speaker 4: So Vrabel's big on it. He's clearly big on all

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm a little torn on it because I've said

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Speaker 8: But on the other hand, like I'm seeing that, you

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Speaker 8: And I think they might draft a quarterback this year.

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Speaker 8: wasn't processing as quick, but he looked better to me

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm a big fan of taking a

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Speaker 3: didn't find one somewhere this year as well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: One of those windows. Yeah, could be another news. Paul

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Speaker 3: That's why I spoke about I always didn't say anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I blame the committee just as much as the fans.

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Speaker 8: To hear that call in Freddy in the car call.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was before he was he was anybody.

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Speaker 3: Oh he did come back there for the party.

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Speaker 8: I was just I mean, I not to reiterate, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure there'll be a lot of questions about

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Speaker 8: Have space No another one.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's I mean, it's way better than Jaws.

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Speaker 2: Is it time for him to go? Do you think

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Speaker 8: I'm going to jump in real quick. I don't know

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Speaker 8: a Day three trade with a third string quarterback, Like

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Speaker 3: That's what people were legitimately suggesting. So if that's your premise,

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Speaker 3: ever seen. But it's what I'm here to tell you.

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Speaker 3: You're going to get a Day three pick for you.

442
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 3: That comes off as negative, but that's reality.

443
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Speaker 4: Right, and so much of it. It just surprises me

444
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 4: about that, in particular because every single person I know

445
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 4: covers the team pushed back on the notion that it

446
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 4: was going to.

447
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Speaker 3: Be everyone, and I often critical of my car, I

448
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 3: mean everyone Evan.

449
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 4: So like, I don't know where that was coming from,

450
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 4: that they were going to get this King's Ransom from

451
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 4: Joe Milton, because it certainly wasn't coming from anybody here.

452
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 2: It came from that last game.

453
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Speaker 4: But I know, but like, where was the actual tangible

454
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 4: evidence that they were going to get that kind of return,

455
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 4: Like every single reporter I know on this beat said,

456
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 4: it's not going to be as much as you think

457
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 4: it's going to be. When people have mock drafts or

458
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 4: Joe Milton. To Paul's point, it's getting them like the

459
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 4: first overall pick by swapping.

460
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Speaker 3: To the Giants, so you can get one of the

461
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 3: two blue chip players by giving the Giants Joe Milton,

462
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 3: they don't have to take Sanders. Now that what you said.

463
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Speaker 4: I agreed that with some of the email, not a

464
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 4: lot of it, but some that the trade was a

465
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 4: little hasty, Like there was I didn't see any reason

466
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 4: to do this other than if you were, like I

467
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 4: keep saying, worried about the dynamic in the quarterback room,

468
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 4: because otherwise, you have a cheap cost controlled rookie contract

469
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Speaker 4: quarterback that signed for the next three years. You have

470
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 4: a lot of rope there to hopefully get his value

471
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 4: even higher, like maybe he plays really well in the

472
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 4: preseason next year and maybe somebody gets hurt and you know,

473
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 4: on another team, or a backup quarterback gets hurt around

474
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 4: the league or whatever, and maybe you get more in

475
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Speaker 4: the trade. So the fact that they did it now

476
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 4: tells me that there was some dynamic.

477
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Speaker 10: How Toy, Yeah, well, I feel like since the second

478
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 10: the offseason ended or the offseason started, we'd been hearing

479
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 10: that he kind of wasn't thrilled with his position on

480
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 10: the depth chart, he probably wanted out, and obviously that

481
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 10: was continuing up until last week.

482
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

483
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Speaker 10: Maybe we saw this guy play one game, right, like

484
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 10: these guys evaluating him saw in practice every single day.

485
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Speaker 10: Maybe in their eyes we sold high, right.

486
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Speaker 3: I kind of think you're right. I think if they

487
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 3: looked at it and said, the longer we wait, yeah,

488
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: the less value has now. I think that Fred's point

489
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Speaker 3: in Evan's point about that the off field stuff probably

490
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: has a big part to do with This may not

491
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 3: have been strictly a football trade. It may have been

492
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 3: as much about that as anything else, but that doesn't

493
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: change his value. Just because you want to trade a guy,

494
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: maybe not for football reasons, doesn't mean you get that's

495
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: the only thing you get back fro him. You can

496
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 3: get as much as you want back from him. I

497
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: can't believe that they had like someone was offering something

498
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 3: significantly more than they took, they chose to do that.

499
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Speaker 4: No, I don't think that there was an offer for

500
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 4: anything more than what they took. But this, to me,

501
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: wasn't worth trading him like a quarterback.

502
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Speaker 3: You I would have because I think that there was

503
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Speaker 3: a chance, Like I think you could was going to

504
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: be even if nothing all the year, you probably could

505
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: have made this trade this time next year.

506
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Speaker 4: Right, Like, basically you're getting the equivalent of the sixth

507
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 4: round pick back for what you use to draft him.

508
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 4: And now you know Paul's point earlier, like they probably

509
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 4: are going to have to invest in another late round

510
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: quarterback because they need another quarterback. Unless you know they're

511
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: just going to roll with two, They're gonna need another quarterback.

512
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 4: So you're you're basically going to be trading you know,

513
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 4: Joe Milton for like you know, Curtis Rourke or something

514
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 4: like that, you know, late on day three now, so

515
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: I just I would have waited. But it's the only explanation,

516
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 4: is right, there was more going.

517
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: On wan in Monterey, Mexico. He wanted to start by

518
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,239
Speaker 2: saying May was always clear number one for me. I

519
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: hate this trade mainly because I don't like Dobbs as

520
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 2: a backup, and we already have seen May not finish games.

521
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: If the reason is because Milton was a distraction, I

522
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: get it. But Milton is a higher has a higher

523
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: upside than backup as backup than Dobbs.

524
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Speaker 8: You might, but Milton's also an older guy. He's not

525
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 8: a raw clump of clay that you needed to work

526
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 8: with to get like. He's kind of what he is

527
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 8: at this point. He needs to learn how to prog

528
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 8: you know, process and get the ball out. Those are

529
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 8: the biggest issues to me when we watched him in camp.

530
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Speaker 8: But I just I kind of think he's pretty close

531
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Speaker 8: to his ceiling as he is, especially physically, you know, And.

532
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Speaker 10: People are acting like we saw him play Buffalo starters

533
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 10: last season.

534
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: You know, we didn't throw the ball.

535
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: Like if you watched him at all in college, you

536
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: know how good his armies, his skills are off the charts.

537
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 3: But as a quarterback, I'm not sure that that matches.

538
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: Jacob in Rochester. Can we talk about how they pretty

539
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: much gave Joe Milton away? The terms of the trade

540
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: seemed ridiculous and not worth it, especially if he played

541
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: well in the preseason could have increased his trade value

542
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 2: for the off season for next offseason.

543
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Speaker 8: Maybe, I mean, but I get it.

544
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: We don't know the extenuating circumstance, right.

545
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 8: And I think I respect that point of view that

546
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 8: maybe you could have gotten more if you had held

547
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 8: on to him, and why they were I respect it.

548
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 8: What I just don't understand is this feeling of outrage

549
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 8: and this is ridiculous, And it just goes back to

550
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 8: what Paul said that you were expecting that this guy

551
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 8: was going to come back this spring and summer and

552
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 8: maybe be pushing Drake may because if he was going

553
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 8: to get a high compensation, that's what would have to happen,

554
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 8: which may be great for the pay if they got

555
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 8: a day you know, first day two pick, but at

556
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 8: the same time you're gonna be dealing with the drama

557
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 8: of Wow, Joe Milton's playing great right now and it's

558
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 8: it's becoming a controversy.

559
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 3: I would have held onto him for the reasons that

560
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: Evan said. But yeah, I totally recognized that he could

561
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: have played this preseason and did what he did last

562
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Speaker 3: preseason and you're getting a pick swap in the seventh round,

563
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: sixth round, whatever, or he could have played like he

564
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: did in the Buffalo game and maybe you get something

565
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: significantly more than that that that I could totally hear

566
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 3: that I would have done that, because to me, this

567
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 3: is about as little as you're going to get for

568
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: a guy. So I don't think he can really hurt.

569
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: It's not like if he played poorly in the preseason,

570
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: you were going to get less than that, so I

571
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: would have held onto him. But I understand what they

572
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: were doing and it doesn't sort of outrage me. To

573
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: use Mike's points.

574
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Speaker 8: Just doesn't dampen my excitement at all.

575
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 3: Well nothing, but in fairness, nothing is ever damped in

576
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 3: excitement for anything played to talk to Josh McDaniels, you

577
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: and I.

578
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Speaker 8: I know that with Josh McDaniels for I want more.

579
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: I need more of that.

580
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: I can't wait too today.

581
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Speaker 8: I was also going to push back on Paul being

582
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 8: the most negative person because I.

583
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: Don't maybe I'm totally wrong negative but not negative.

584
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 8: I think Paul just has this thing where he always

585
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 8: is able to see the other side and has a

586
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 8: desire to argue it, and it's not necessarily he's always

587
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 8: arguing the wrong side, Like if I were to take

588
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 8: a negative take, I could see policy in the positive

589
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 8: side of him pushing back with the positive side as well, like,

590
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 8: I just don't see you constantly taking a dump on

591
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 8: every single take.

592
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 10: You probably would have made a great attorney.

593
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: Right, Dan Michigan. If you discussed the possibility that Milton

594
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 2: was possibly moved to avoid a locker room problem due

595
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: to the potential for a perception of a quarterback competition

596
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: that seems odd to me giving the evaluations of May's

597
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: ability in comparison to Milton's and the reports of May's competitiveness.

598
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: Am I overrating May, underrating Milton, or underestimating the potential

599
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: for a QB controversies and the influence of fan and

600
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 2: radio murmuring on the locker room. Yeah, it's not, I'd say,

601
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: eternally it's the problem. It's all the external noise.

602
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 5: You know.

603
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's the last one. You just we

604
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: heard it even last year at times, you know, with

605
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: you know, the last game especially, but just in general,

606
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: they're you know, just a Joe Milton mania, if you will.

607
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: And I think that's to me, that's why the trade

608
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 4: was made, was because they were worried that that type

609
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 4: of thing was going to go down and it's just

610
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: better to clear the decks. I don't think they felt

611
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 4: like they had, you know, this diamond in the rough

612
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 4: and Joe Milton that was going to go on to

613
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: be you know, the next Tom Brady or Kurt Warner.

614
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: You know that they found on late on day three,

615
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 4: So they just decided that it was not worth it.

616
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: Jacket and Arbus is something that at first I was

617
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: like now, but then I was thinking, maybe he says,

618
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: instead of the Patriots accepting short value to trade Joe

619
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: Milton as a favor to Milton, who apparently wanted to

620
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: go to Dallas, what if the trade was made as

621
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: a favor to Jerry Jones. Do the Patriots, oh, Jerry

622
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: Jones a favor or do the Patriots expect a favor

623
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: from Jones in the future. The reason why I was like,

624
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: it made me think is what if Terry Jones wants

625
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: to create a quarterback controversy.

626
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: So I do think that there. I mean, I don't

627
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: know if that's creating a quarterback controversy, but it it

628
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: it does. It is on my mind that there's a

629
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 3: possibility that they're having second thoughts about Dak. There was

630
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: a report about maybe three weeks ago. Looks like it

631
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: was never anything to it, but you never know. Sometimes

632
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: when this smoke with these kinds of things, some guy,

633
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: some like obscure radio out in Cleveland was suggesting that

634
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 3: there was a trade in the works for the Dak

635
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: Prescott to Cleveland for the number two overall pick Now,

636
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: that wasn't the entirety of the deal, but that was

637
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: the crux of it, and you had to take to

638
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: Sewan Wott and it never really I didn't hear any

639
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: of that, but I never it never like got sort

640
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: of legitimized by anybody reputable. Right, it actually opposite, right,

641
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: but when But I've also seen that before too, like

642
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: all that that there's nothing to that, and all of

643
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: a sudden behind the scenes. We've seen that here right right,

644
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: we've seen that here with stuff that we've known has happened,

645
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: and then the media discoveries they no, no, that never happened. Well,

646
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: we know what did? I just wonder if Dallas maybe

647
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: is having second thoughts about long term Dak Prescott. Well again,

648
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: and that's what you know, Evan, You made that comment

649
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: like why on earth would Milton want to go there?

650
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: Might have an opportunity to play because Dak misses games.

651
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: That's a much better player obviously.

652
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't. Maybe Milton looks at it like

653
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: he has an opportunity to truly be the backup quarterback there,

654
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: whereas here he's competing with Josh Dobbs.

655
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: Maybe it was the Josh Dobbs thing that that caused

656
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: me want to.

657
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: Go there's there's a zero point zero percent chance that

658
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: Joe Milton's starting in Dallas for the future.

659
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: You mean like long term ever? Yeah, I mean other

660
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: than like a spot start here.

661
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to be the starter.

662
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Speaker 3: No, I agree, they're not going to supplant Dak Prescott.

663
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Speaker 3: But like to Alex's point, if he gets like hurd

664
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Speaker 3: again and all of a sudden he cooper rushes it

665
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Speaker 3: and goes in for like a games and wins six

666
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Speaker 3: of them, Yeah, Like I just wonder if he looks

667
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: at it, is that kind of an opportunity.

668
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tony writes in if Milton were in this year's draft,

669
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Speaker 2: what round would he have gone? Where would he rank

670
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Speaker 2: among quarterbacks in this year's draft?

671
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Speaker 8: Just a little higher? I mean higher, But I don't

672
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 8: know he can He's a flyer.

673
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Speaker 4: I don't think you can look at it though, Like

674
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: you don't know what you know about his rookie season

675
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: with the Patriots, right, Like you have to look at

676
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: it and what he was coming out of Tennessee. You

677
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: can't factor in the Buffalo game and like say that

678
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: that changes your approach. So I still think he's a

679
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 4: Day three pick, even if he came out this year

680
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: where there's not as many quarterbacks like, I don't think

681
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: that he's all of a sudden going in the second round,

682
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: you know. So I think it might have been around better,

683
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Speaker 4: maybe just because it's not as deep of a quarterback

684
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: class or as good as a quarterback class, But I

685
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: don't think it would have been much different.

686
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Speaker 2: Gerald and Grimsby. My opinion of the trade is whatever.

687
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: Let's face it, no one was training for Joe Milton

688
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: as a starter. He was traded to Dallas where he

689
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: is now the backup for a bet a quarterback than may.

690
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Speaker 8: I love it, whatever, whatever, all right.

691
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: But it is interesting. Though it's an interesting trade.

692
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Speaker 10: No one should be more upset than our social team.

693
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 10: He was really good for Montent backslips, good engagement, He

694
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 10: was a good guy on the TikTok.

695
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Speaker 4: He was nice.

696
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 8: He was really nice, a nice kid, really good guy.

697
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 8: I always talked to.

698
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Speaker 3: Him a lot, but when I did, you seem very nice.

699
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 8: I think maybe the last week of the season was

700
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 8: when we got him. He came into the scrum in

701
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 8: the Revs locker room and just yeah, great guy, you know,

702
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 8: impressive guy. You understand why so many teams are intrigued

703
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 8: by him. He's got every single intangible and tangible. It's

704
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 8: just he has to put it all.

705
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Speaker 3: I had a chance to speak to him at one

706
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: of the television production meetings. Oh yeah, and that's why

707
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: I was sort of taking like this. This guy seems

708
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: like he's got a lot going on. You know, he's

709
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: really family oriented. Talked a lot about his brother Yeah,

710
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: I think he has several brothers and says, I think

711
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: he has like seven seven. I think he has a

712
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: lot of brothers and sisters if I remember correctly. That's

713
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Speaker 3: why he wears the number seven. I think he was

714
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: number seven.

715
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Speaker 10: I think you're right.

716
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was an impressive guy.

717
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 10: Wish him the best.

718
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Speaker 4: I remember when they drafted him. I kind of asked

719
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Speaker 4: around about the the dynamic. You know, obviously they drafted

720
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Speaker 4: quarterback three overall, and you know we had those discussions

721
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: and uh he had down at the Senior Bowl. They

722
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: just gushed about the character of Joe Milton and yeah,

723
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Speaker 4: they have like kind of like a good Guy award

724
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Speaker 4: that they give out. This is the guy that was

725
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Speaker 4: kind of the best like locker room guy of the week,

726
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Speaker 4: and he actually won it, uh two years ago at

727
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Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl, and that that was the type of

728
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Speaker 4: guy that everybody thought he was in his So that's

729
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: why all this stuff that's been coming out about you know,

730
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 4: he wanted to he had higher aspirations and kind of

731
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: force his way out and all that. It just it

732
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Speaker 4: kind of surprised me a little bit.

733
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Speaker 10: Well to Freend's point, like it's maybe not only him,

734
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 10: but like his agent too, you know, like maybe he's

735
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Speaker 10: not the one speaking up and cause it like causing

736
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Speaker 10: directly the drama, but the agent has a job to

737
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Speaker 10: do to behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I don't hold it against him at all. I mean,

740
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 8: there's a way to do it. Everyone's aware of what

741
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 8: his situation is behind Drake May and in the perfect

742
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 8: world for the Patriots, Drake May is there starting quarterbacks for.

743
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 10: The next time plus realistic way to look at it.

744
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 8: You know, it's it's not it's just business. He wants

745
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 8: an opportunity.

746
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if it's if he in fact did do

747
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: it like he requested it and you said, there's a

748
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: way to do it. We didn't hear anything really about it.

749
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Speaker 10: It's not like he's tweeting like you know, tet me

750
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Speaker 10: out of here.

751
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: He's not removing all.

752
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: Changing his pro follow Yeah he's cryptic.

753
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Carl, I know he did that.

754
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: Like, no, I would never know. No, he's more mature

755
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Speaker 7: Today.

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Speaker 8: What are we all having?

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Speaker 12: You know?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like thirteen.

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Speaker 13: There you go exactly, guy, get in my belly.

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Speaker 2: Everybody loves Ted's in San Diego. What's up Ted?

775
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Speaker 7: Good morning, a good afternoon. Just a few observations. I

776
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 7: was a season ticket holder for the Patriots back in

777
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 7: the early seventies when they opened up that done to

778
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 7: the stadium. The one quick observation from my time before

779
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 7: I moved to San Diego was I think that Chuck

780
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 7: Fairbanks should have been elected to the Hall of Fame

781
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 7: before ourselves. I know Paul has alluded over the at

782
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 7: least the last year or two about Fairbanks and the

783
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 7: great job we did drafting people, but that team was

784
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 7: probably the best team in the NFL back in the

785
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 7: seventy seven, seventy eight, seventy nine era. Screw it out

786
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 7: of the playoff game against the Raiders, which of course

787
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 7: was legendary. But I just feel like if it wasn't

788
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 7: for that owner, that team could have been great for

789
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 7: maybe half a dozen years because they had drafted so

790
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 7: well and they had such elite level players back at

791
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 7: that point. Even though the quarterback was skatey at times,

792
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 7: they still had a team on both offense and defense

793
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 7: that was just outstanding.

794
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Speaker 3: I would agree with you, Ted, And just to let

795
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: you know this, will you know, make you feel a

796
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: little bit better anyway, you know, Chuck Fairbanks was talked

797
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: about at our meeting that Fred and I just came

798
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: from for the Hall of Fame nomination meeting extensively, and

799
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff that you said was brought

800
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: up in I think that it's not a stretch to

801
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: say if Robert Kraft had, you know, had owned the

802
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: team back then, that they would have won super Bowls

803
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: in the seventies, because I do think their failures would

804
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: directly tied back to Billy Sullivan. And this is not

805
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: any disrespect to Billy Sullivan. I just think he just

806
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: flat out did not have the finances to be operating

807
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: at an NFL level, and I think he tried, but

808
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: I just don't think he had enough. And Fairbanks absolutely

809
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: is Parcels. I think there's so many parallels between the two.

810
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: And I got a lot of people when I wrote

811
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: the Bill Parcells story earlier this week, I got a

812
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: lot of interaction from fans saying, if Parcels is in,

813
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: it's time to get Fairbanks into because they're very similar.

814
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: Can a lot of some people, well, he walked away

815
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: from the team, one of the people shared the story,

816
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: and you know it's if you were back then, you

817
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: know it. He walked away from the team because he

818
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: had a handshake deal with John Hannah that the owner

819
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: made him back out.

820
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: He was basically the coach in GM. He was in

821
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: charge of all personnel, the players, negotiakstead with Chuck Fairbanks,

822
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Speaker 3: and he had an agreement in place with John Hannah

823
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: and Leon Gray handshake, this is done, all done, And

824
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 3: the owner said no, Well now I've lost my credibility

825
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: with my players, like you can't say no, and that's

826
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: what ultimately led him to leave.

827
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I went I went back on. When I wrote

828
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Speaker 8: for my Pats propaganda blog, I wrote an article about

829
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 8: Chuck Fairbanks nine years ago April eighth, twenty sixteen. But

830
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 8: just some interesting SATs I compiled were six Fairbanks drafted

831
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 8: six Patriots Hall of Famers, Parcels at that point it

832
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 8: drafted five. It might be a little more now because

833
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 8: I'm sure just in nine years a couple of those

834
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 8: guys went in. But Fairbanks was six seasons forty six

835
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 8: and forty, Parcels was four, thirty two and thirty two.

836
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 8: Fairbanks was zero two in the playoffs. I know that

837
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 8: there's some story behind that as well, and Parcels was

838
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 8: two and two. But the other part of Fairbanks for

839
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 8: me is that he part of the Fairbanks bull of

840
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 8: three fourty defense, which was Bill Belichick's basis for the

841
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 8: defense that existed here.

842
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: Forevers brought that from Oklahoma.

843
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 8: You know, you talk about we get so consumed with

844
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 8: Kyle Shanahan and the wide zone scheme and the schemes,

845
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 8: and you know, here's a guy that not only coached here,

846
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 8: but his scheme went on to be a huge part

847
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 8: of when the Patriots were really successful.

848
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 11: Yeah.

849
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Speaker 3: And the last thing I would say is there was

850
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 3: you know what Ted finished there about how good those

851
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: teams were in the seventies. Is Raymond Berry used to

852
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: tell anybody who listened that the heart of the team

853
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: that went to the Super Bowl in eighty five was

854
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: all Fairbanks guys. You know the hand is you know

855
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: all that Crewrogan, you know Grogan, Hannah Claybourne was still there,

856
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 3: Stanley Morgan was still there. I mean Hall of Famer

857
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: after Hall of famer.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, was that all like the seventy sixth draft or

859
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Speaker 8: seventy five.

860
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: Creating that they had three first round picks because Chuck

861
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: Fairbanks traded Jim Plunkett to San Francisco for two first

862
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: round picks two second round picks. I think it was

863
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: a crazy trade they ended up with. I forget the specifics,

864
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: but I think they got Mike Haynes, Pete Brock and

865
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: Tim Fox in the first round one year. So all

866
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: all guys that we're talking about, all guys that are

867
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: just you know, nothing in the eyes of young.

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00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: The Steelers were too good, right, London's and great Barrington's.

869
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: What's up London?

870
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 7: It was going on?

871
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Speaker 9: Guys?

872
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 13: Wait, wait, hold on, So like I think that the

873
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 13: conversation around is Milton trade.

874
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Speaker 11: You guys.

875
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 13: I understand you guys work at the organization, but I

876
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 13: think you're being way too tame about this. Like, let

877
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 13: me bring you guys back to reality. You basically traded

878
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 13: a potential start.

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00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 7: No, a starter.

880
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 13: He is a starter. The fact that Evan I got

881
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 13: beef with you right now.

882
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 8: Because that's where you lost London.

883
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm getting out of control.

884
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 8: No, no, bro, you just said that Joe Milton is

885
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 8: a starter down my back.

886
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 13: Pap before jumped onw my back pape. You traded a

887
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 13: starter a starter, right, he is an absolute starter? Because

888
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 13: why the guy I was he absolutely trying to bring

889
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 13: up a controversy like they didn't want to pay back.

890
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 13: They didn't want to pay back right in the first place,

891
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 13: and that got injured. When he came back from injury,

892
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 13: he wasn't the same player. So they're absolutely trying to

893
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 13: get rid of him. They're trying to get rid of

894
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 13: that contract.

895
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: So you traded a starter, right, he didn't come back

896
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: financial potential franchise quarterback for a special teams player at okay,

897
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: maybe are.

898
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: You mixing him up with Aaron Rodgers?

899
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 13: Vondular But like, like I just want to bring you

900
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 13: back to reality.

901
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 8: But what why do you think he is a starter?

902
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: What have you seen? It makes you think he's a

903
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: starter and you think that that's reality.

904
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: But what you came You.

905
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 8: Saw one game and he's a starter in the NFL.

906
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 13: Trade His trades are amazing.

907
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 8: Like the traits, right, we all agree is traits are amazing,

908
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 8: but he's not a starter.

909
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 13: To start this guy over Drake, Why.

910
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 8: Was he drafted in the sixth round? He had the

911
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 8: same traits last year?

912
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, like thirty two teams had a chance to draft

913
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: him and no one did, right.

914
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 13: And when did they do that before Tom Brady?

915
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: Right?

916
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 8: So he's Tom Brady.

917
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 13: I'm saying the NFL teams evaluations can be off, so

918
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 13: like that's true.

919
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: Okay, son, can you give me a favor and give

920
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: another one over the span of the last thirty years,

921
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: because that's one Oh, rady A. You're right, Brady was

922
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: the sixth round pick. Can you give me another six

923
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 3: round pick?

924
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 13: I just have a question before you guys hang up

925
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 13: on me real quick. I have a question about the

926
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 13: voluntary workout, Like when is Rabel gonna do?

927
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 14: Uh?

928
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 13: When is that voluntary work because obviously it's not voluntary

929
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 13: next week voluntary? Is that this month or next month?

930
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 8: Next week?

931
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: Monday?

932
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 5: Monday Day?

933
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 9: Okay?

934
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 13: And the one last thing, one last thing. I just

935
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 13: feel like Elliott Wolf, everything that he's done feels so

936
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 13: beta to me, Like I'm so done with this guy.

937
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 13: He's He's a bane of the Patriots nation existence Like

938
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 13: variable is a guy, you know what I'm saying. Like

939
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 13: the energy that Verbel brings and his guys that he

940
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 13: brought in, they've shown me real football moves, like aggressiveness.

941
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 13: Everything that Elliott has done, I'm sorry, just feel so

942
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 13: beta and it's like, from a position of weakness, I need.

943
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 7: This guy out of here.

944
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 5: Man.

945
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, But what I said about.

946
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 13: Joe when he turned into a franchise quarterback. I'm telling you, man,

947
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 13: remember this call, all right.

948
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 3: I absolutely London calling, and I'm not killing your take.

949
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 3: I just don't like the characterization like that's your opinion.

950
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: He's absolutely a starting quarterback, is your take. That's not

951
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: a fact. That's not a fact. He started one game

952
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: the last game of the year and didn't even start it,

953
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: but played in one game the last game of the

954
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: year against an entirety of backup practice squatters. That does

955
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 3: not make you a starter in this league. Dallas did

956
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: not make that trade because they think they traded for

957
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: a starter. They traded for a young quarterback who they

958
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: think might be worth developing, and he might develop into

959
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: a starter and London won't be right. But he's not

960
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: that now.

961
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: But I like the energy London.

962
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 8: He embodied what you said that that's where all the

963
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 8: angst comes from when people are very very upset about

964
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 8: this trade is that's the point of view. So it's

965
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 8: a good call.

966
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: I would also just go back to college with him

967
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: a little bit. And I've said it multiple times. Michigan

968
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: and Tennessee both thought like London about Joe Milton. They

969
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 4: both thought that Joe Milton, you know, he was a

970
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: highly recruited player out of high school, went to Michigan. Uh,

971
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 4: you know they that's obviously a blue blood, like a

972
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: big football program, flamed out in Michigan. Then Tennessee, you know,

973
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 4: bought in another SEC powerhouse in Tennessee. They bought into

974
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: Joe Milton. He has a lot of trades. He has

975
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: really high upside in a lot of trades. He has

976
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: never put it all together consistently and is never the

977
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 4: whole ball of clay has never been shaped consistently in

978
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 4: any capacity to the point where he spent like five

979
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 4: or six years in college football, you know, just bouncing

980
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: around trying to win starting jobs and stuff like that. So, uh,

981
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: he's got a lot of talent. And I think that

982
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: people see that and they just like London, they get

983
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: attached to the talent. But the other thing really quickly

984
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: with with Elliott Wolf. This trade does not scream Elliot

985
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: Wolf to.

986
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: Me at all.

987
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: Right, you know, there's a developing.

988
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 8: So Elliott Wolf, who's we don't like Elliott Wolf.

989
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: We do like And I'm not saying that because you

990
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: can like it or dislike it whatever you want to feel,

991
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: but you know, Elliot Wolfe's father, Ron wolf was a

992
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: big believer in drafting quarterbacks even if you had a quarterback,

993
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 4: and they held on to all of their quarterbacks for

994
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 4: as long as they possibly could. Like, moving on from

995
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: a quarterback one year into his rookie contract is not

996
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 4: the pack away like, That's not what his father did.

997
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 4: That's not like what his upbringing is in. I I

998
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: don't think that that was a move motivated by Elliot

999
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 4: wolf just my take.

1000
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: Matt Mark Brunel.

1001
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, n.

1002
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 3: He held on to and got something and all.

1003
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: Being Patriots at the let's go to Eldred, North Carolina.

1004
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: What's up Eldred? Hey, y'all doing all right?

1005
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 14: I agree? I agree? I'm sorry, cool Evan, You're wrong,

1006
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 14: Kenneth Kennethy. He did win win the Liberty Bowl?

1007
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: The Liberty Bowl?

1008
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 4: Did he bring? Did he win the Dates Mayo Ball too?

1009
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 14: Did Drake go? Did Drake go?

1010
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: Drake? Drake was in the Orange Bowl? I believe one

1011
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 4: of his years or one of those big but.

1012
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: Did it win?

1013
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 14: Okay, forget all day, forget all day, but I.

1014
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 9: Got I got Elga.

1015
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: Can I just judge your real quick because if this

1016
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: is your opinion, I want to just want to get

1017
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: it straight. Do you think that they should have Milton

1018
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: be the quarterback right now and not May?

1019
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 5: No?

1020
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 8: Well, then why bring up what May did in college

1021
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 8: as opposed to what Milton did?

1022
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 14: Big av been shooting down what he did in Tennessee.

1023
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: Well, he was not a He really wasn't a great

1024
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 3: starter at Michigan or Tennessee.

1025
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: Correct.

1026
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: No one suggested he didn't win any games and routinely

1027
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: got it beat out.

1028
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 14: By check the year of his college record, putting in

1029
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 14: what you got and he's won more?

1030
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: Which year, like I said before.

1031
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 14: Buy your boy, he got Draft twenty? I think two interceptions.

1032
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: So again you're comparing college stats. If you think Milton

1033
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 3: is better than May, then stand by it. If I mean,

1034
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: if he had a better year than May and you

1035
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: think Milton should be the quarterback, say that, but you

1036
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: think May should be the quarterback. So I don't really

1037
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: know what we're arguing. Not that I have to defend

1038
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: Evans a good job on his own.

1039
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 14: But Corter to Baldon or Baldi and what'd you call him.

1040
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: A while back?

1041
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, Balding, he's a better quarterback to the one they

1042
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 14: got now. And if I was New England. I actd

1043
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 14: dreaming about it, but a pilas for a third but

1044
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 14: Milton wanted to go to the Cowboys. And I think

1045
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 14: I understand it too, because I got a bunch of

1046
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 14: cowboy fans in my family. They can't stand dak Well.

1047
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: I know that. That's why I was a little bit

1048
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: raising my eyebrow that to Jerry Jones thing. But Elder,

1049
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 2: if what thanks for the call. If what you're saying

1050
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: is that they could have got a third and they

1051
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: ended up getting a compensatory fifth form, then somebody should

1052
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: get fired. I doubt that that was what was on

1053
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: the table, a third round pick.

1054
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: I mean, we're just now we're just rewriting Joe Milton's

1055
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: college career by the way too, like we're just we're

1056
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: completely changing what happened in college, you know. And he

1057
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: basically got told to leave Michigan because they gave the

1058
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: starting job to somebody else, and he went to Tennessee

1059
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: Hennon Hooker beat him out. At Tennessee, Hennon Hooker was

1060
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 4: actually going to keep playing. Then he got hurt, and

1061
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: that was the only reason why Joe Milton even got

1062
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 4: to play in the first place. At Tennessee, and then

1063
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: you know, he had a decent year. Eldred's right about.

1064
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: Lessons this happen. Like be a Joe Milton fan, that's fine,

1065
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: you know, like he could Joe Milton with you know,

1066
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: proper coaching and structure and all that. Maybe all those

1067
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: that ball of clay does get formed into a good quarterback.

1068
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: I hope it does for his sake. But right now

1069
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: in this point in.

1070
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: Time, like he lost the Orange Bowl seven.

1071
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how.

1072
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 8: You could be that up the year.

1073
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: That's fine, It's funny because I wouldn't have made the trade.

1074
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: And I said that, like I said, I wouldn't have

1075
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 4: made the trade. I just the overrating of Joe Milton

1076
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: is where I think we are getting a little bit

1077
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: worked up, because it's like you're you're just rewriting history

1078
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 4: now that he's you know, going to be a franchise quarterback,

1079
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 4: or that he's you know, you're predicting the you're predicting

1080
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 4: the definitive.

1081
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: He's they traded the starter for you know, a pick

1082
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: swap and from the seventh to the fifth. That's like,

1083
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: I just don't know that we can say that he's a.

1084
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: Starter Phil's and Coventry.

1085
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 9: Hey Phil, Hey, how you guys are doing good? Uh,

1086
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 9: you're going about it the wrong way, and I'm surprised

1087
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 9: Bart hasn't figured this out yet. The definitive answer to

1088
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 9: this big mystery is and I don't mean to spend gossips,

1089
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 9: but I think somebody might have wanted his number rhymes

1090
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 9: with death, the number ten. Probably wanted the jersey numbers.

1091
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 9: So they had to get him.

1092
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 8: Going, oh, okay, okay, don't want to give it.

1093
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 9: And the other thing is, Evan, have you started he's

1094
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 9: growing the film on kickers.

1095
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: Yet on Kickers? Yeah, I know you love the better

1096
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: call sauls. That's my take on the kickers.

1097
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: All right, thanks.

1098
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: So the answer is, yes.

1099
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 8: That's a good kick. Kick.

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Speaker 4: I usually leave the kickers to Barth. For some reason,

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Speaker 4: he's decided that that's a niche that he wants to

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Speaker 4: be a part of. So like at the very end,

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Speaker 4: at like one fifty eight, I'll give him, like, all right,

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Speaker 4: here's your two minutes on the kickers. Go for it.

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Speaker 4: I don't start a soccer or something. No, he did not,

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Speaker 4: He just I think he just needed some niches, you know,

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Speaker 4: and the little should.

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Speaker 8: We walk over the things. Probably okay, yeah, I keep sorry.

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Speaker 2: All right, you guys, time for a break. These guys

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Speaker 2: are gonna go up and uh check out the offensive coaches. Uh,

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Speaker 2: we'll back, we'll come back. When Josh McDaniels goes live

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Speaker 2: at around one o'clock, well we're gonna go to that

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: But oh, good, good, good good.

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Speaker 18: How do you feel about how the team has been

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00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 18: spending its money and how much of his reaction to

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00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 18: maybe not spending it last year in infreugency.

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Speaker 19: Well, we're just to correct something. There's never been a

1140
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 19: case in thirty one years where people have come to

1141
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 19: us to spend and we've said no, never one time.

1142
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 19: So we've always been willing to spend. When we do it,

1143
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 19: we want people to feel that they've done their homework

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Speaker 19: and feel confident.

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00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 5: That we're doing it and improving.

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Speaker 19: I mean a lot most people would say, given coaches experience,

1147
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 19: that what we've done on defense and his knowledge of

1148
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 19: that area and the personnel, that we've improved greatly.

1149
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 5: And you know, I think that's so.

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00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 19: I I know, I don't know, uh, but I'm excited.

1151
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 19: And we've always had a strong defense, and I think

1152
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 19: any of us that are fans of the team know

1153
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 19: we want to try to strengthen the offense a little

1154
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 19: you know, on the line and in the receiver area, maybe.

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Speaker 5: A speed running back.

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00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 19: But I I'm talking as a fan, uh, But I

1157
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 19: have confidence.

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00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 5: That this group.

1159
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 19: Is all on the same page and the most important

1160
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 19: thing is everyone who's putting team first. And that in

1161
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 19: in this business, you can't have little groupings who have

1162
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 19: their own ideas. Everyone and the fact that it's starting

1163
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 19: fresh and everyone expresses how they feel it, it's been

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00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 19: very exciting for me.

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Speaker 2: What would make what would make the season of success?

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00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 3: What would make the season of success for you?

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00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 5: For me, yeah, to make the playoffs.

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00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 10: Robert, what was your reaction to the team's lomarks and

1169
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 10: the NFLPA report card and sort.

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00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 19: Of well, you know, it was eye opener for me

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00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 19: and and then I I put it in context that

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00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 19: you know, in thirty one years, going through these last

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00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 19: two years and the way things were and the culture

1174
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 19: was there. I it really opened my eyes in a way,

1175
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 19: cause we we think we're bo and we have things, but.

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00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 5: It just was not a good environment.

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Speaker 19: And I and we wanna do everything we can to

1178
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 19: make this.

1179
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 5: The feeling is is one of the best places you

1180
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 5: can go. And I think we had that.

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00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 19: For quite a while in terms of winning and people

1182
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 19: wanted to come here, and then the last couple of

1183
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 19: years changed it. And now it's management and ownership's job

1184
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 19: to do everything they can to create the culture that

1185
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 19: this is a place that people wanna come to. And

1186
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 19: I really believe it. It it's happening. And now we

1187
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 19: gotta produce on the field and want people have go

1188
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 19: wanna come to be in this environment, and we're trying

1189
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 19: to do the different things we can to make that happen.

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Speaker 20: Four in June, some NFL owners like Ralph Wilson Dan

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00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 20: Ruby's step aside first took a step back around the

1192
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 20: similar age. Are there have there been any discussions any

1193
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 20: succession planes things like that?

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Speaker 5: Are you telling me? Uh? Well?

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Speaker 19: First of all, I think I'm thirty five and you

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Speaker 19: all will laugh when I say it, but I really,

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Speaker 19: uh y. You know, in life, look, I was a

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00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 19: little kid sitting I was on those benches dreaming about

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Speaker 19: owning this team and bringing a winning culture here. I said,

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Speaker 19: after my family, this team and this foundation to combat

1201
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 19: hate and anti Semitism, those are my passions, you know.

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00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 19: I As far as succession, succession is there, I have

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00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 19: uh my eldest son John and has been part of

1204
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 19: every key decision I've made for the last thirty odd

1205
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 19: years and is a full partner in everything. He stays

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Speaker 19: out of uh the limelight.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 19: But we we have a plan that is in place

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00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 19: for all of our businesses. And I don't know, were

1210
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 19: you suggesting something that you know that's a bias Sometimes

1211
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 19: with age you have experience.

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Speaker 5: But let's see what happens this year.

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00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 19: Let's see let's see what happens over the next two

1214
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 19: to three years, Robert.

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Speaker 21: But before you go, last year, you had the Tom

1216
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 21: Brady Hall of Fame thing that was a big deal.

1217
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 21: We had a meeting coming up. We had a narrow

1218
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 21: down an amazing list of candidates for a Patriots Hall

1219
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 21: of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 21: Any advice you might give uh with Minitarry Edelman, Mankin's

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00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 21: others that get in challenging.

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00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 19: Well, you're I don't know s. People probably get mad

1224
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 19: at me for what I'm about to do. But UH,

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00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 19: I know Thursday we have a uh a meeting of

1226
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 19: our Patriots Hall of Fame group. And I decided the

1227
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 19: end of last week UH to make a call to

1228
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 19: sorry camp A da good things happen in the bushes.

1229
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 19: I called Bill Parcell's who, and uh I asked him

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00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 19: if he would uh be kind enough to accept going

1231
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 19: into our Patriot Hall of Fame. He had been a

1232
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 19: finalist for five years, and going back to your question,

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00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 19: while both of us are alive in our late thirties,

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00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 19: you know, I thought it would be great, given me

1235
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 19: what he's done for the team, if he would accept

1236
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 19: entry as a contributor into the Patriots Hall of Fame.

1237
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 19: And he accepted.

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00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

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00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 19: I actually wanted to meet with him in person, but

1240
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 19: he was on his way to Saratoga, where he goes.

1241
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 19: Uh so he's sort of uh So, I'm excited. Uh

1242
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 19: We'll have him at our Patriots Hall of Fame induction ceremonies.

1243
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 19: And I'm sorry if I messed up the Thursday meeting

1244
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 19: of the people.

1245
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 5: Can I squeeze one off on Newswise? Uh idy?

1246
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 22: Updates on the Evert Stadium and where.

1247
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: The big stand and how it's coming.

1248
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 19: Well, you know, I go back. I think back to

1249
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 19: when I bought the Patriots. I had gone out to

1250
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 19: Saint Louis and met with James Orthwine and knew we

1251
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 19: had a stadium that was inadequate, and.

1252
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: I called the then governor and.

1253
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 19: Said, I'm going to keep the team from moving to

1254
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 19: Saint Louis, but I need your commitment that you're going

1255
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 19: to help me get a stadium in downtown Boston. And

1256
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 19: he said, I'm there, You're in. And of course we

1257
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 19: all know what happened, and the political environment here is

1258
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 19: a little different. So we built the only stadium in

1259
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 19: America that's one hundred percent private and we're willing.

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Speaker 5: To do that for soccer. O.

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00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 11: Good God to see every buddy, a lot of familiar faces,

1262
00:59:58,880 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 11: your Sa.

1263
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 21: Las Vegas, come here, back here where your thoughts just

1264
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 21: be in that hell are world?

1265
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 18: Yeah, Uh, super excited to be, you know, working in

1266
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 18: football again. You know, the the process of getting acclimated

1267
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 18: with Mike and the staff.

1268
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 11: Is obviously an exciting one for me.

1269
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 18: Working with a bunch of guys that you know, you're

1270
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 18: getting familiar with them and learning things about them and

1271
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 18: our team and our players that we haven't had an

1272
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 18: opportunity to work with yet. But just the this is

1273
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 18: why we do what we do, uh in coaching, uh,

1274
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 18: to you know, form these kind of relationships and hopefully,

1275
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 18: you know, build to something that we're all proud of.

1276
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 11: Uh.

1277
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 18: Once the season starts, So, Uh, I couldn't be more

1278
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 18: excited to be here and be back with this organization

1279
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 18: and working for Mike, and uh excited for Monday.

1280
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 13: Lash relatives to.

1281
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: Your expectations before we had a chance to meet 'em

1282
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: at that time of where has great been been?

1283
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 5: Relatives? What can expect him?

1284
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 18: Yeah, I haven't had a chance to really do football

1285
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 18: with him yet, Tom, but you know that'll that'll come.

1286
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 11: We'll have plenty of time here coming up next week.

1287
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 18: But I'm I'm smitten by the young man in terms

1288
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 18: of just his personality. You know, We've had an opportunity

1289
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 18: to spend some time that has nothing to do with

1290
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 18: football with one another, which I think, you know, has

1291
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 18: been great, very beneficial and productive to just to get

1292
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 18: to know him, who he is, what he's all about,

1293
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 18: what he cares about, Uh, where he's.

1294
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 11: Coming from, his family?

1295
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 18: Uh and Michael, you know, wedding plans, you know all

1296
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 18: that stuff. We've we've kind of had an opportunity to

1297
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 18: talk about those kind of things. So you know, I

1298
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 18: think next week and beyond will be super fun for

1299
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 18: me to really get to know him from a football

1300
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 18: perspective and start teaching our terminology and language and seeing

1301
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 18: how he learns best and how he acclimates. But I

1302
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 18: couldn't be more excited about the young man that that

1303
01:01:59,560 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 18: that we have.

1304
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 11: I'm usually very early in the process, but what's your

1305
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 11: overall feelings of confidence?

1306
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of the safety offensive.

1307
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 18: I always start each year with a fresh perspective, you know.

1308
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 18: I wasn't here last year, and I know every every

1309
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 18: player on our team is going to get a fresh start,

1310
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 18: you know, and we're going to give everybody our best.

1311
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 18: And our job is to take the guys that we

1312
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 18: have on our offense and make them better. And I

1313
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 18: think that's a huge part of an assistant coach's job,

1314
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 18: is to develop the players that you have. I know

1315
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 18: our staff is excited to start doing that next week,

1316
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 18: and we'll get to know them more as we go.

1317
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 18: But I'm confident in the guys we have working right

1318
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 18: now offensively on our staff that are that are preparing

1319
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 18: to teach these guys the things we want to do.

1320
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 18: And then it's a process. You know, we'll get to

1321
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 18: know them more as we go, but excited. I've met

1322
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 18: most of them and looking forward to meeting the rest

1323
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 18: of them.

1324
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 19: Will be tweaking or advancing offense.

1325
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: In order to suit even like the quarterback you have

1326
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: and in the personality town.

1327
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 18: Yeah, definitely, that's the short answer. Yeah, I think the

1328
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 18: this is a is always a very popular question. We

1329
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 18: have a language, and every offensive system, defensive system has

1330
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 18: a language. So you have to have a just you

1331
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 18: have to decide the way you want to speak in

1332
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 18: terms of calling things and naming things and whether you

1333
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 18: use numbers, protections, or.

1334
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 11: You use words or however you do what you do.

1335
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 18: So our language has been refined a little bit between

1336
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 18: last year with the time that I had and then

1337
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 18: dish spring with the coaches. I think that's really getting streamlined.

1338
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 18: It's been great to have their perspective on it. Just

1339
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,959
Speaker 18: you know, being in the same type of language for

1340
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 18: my entire career has been good and probably in some

1341
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 18: ways it's been, you know, a little different than most coaches,

1342
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 18: and so these guys have done a tremendous job of

1343
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 18: helping us streamline it. So what's most important is that

1344
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 18: the players can digest whatever it is we want to do.

1345
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 18: But there's the language and then there's the strategy part.

1346
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 18: And the language is how you talk. The strategy is

1347
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 18: all based about your players and what do we have,

1348
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 18: what are our strengths, How do we maximize the personnel

1349
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 18: that's on our team and on our offense. And that

1350
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,479
Speaker 18: part is going to be different like it is every year,

1351
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 18: you know, whether you you know seven was different than twelve,

1352
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 18: Twelve was different than seventeen. Everything was different than twenty twenty.

1353
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 18: You know, twenty twenty one is going to be different

1354
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 18: than this year. So the strategy and what we end

1355
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 18: up doing eventually will be all about what's best for

1356
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 18: our players and how can we maximize the guys here.

1357
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 4: How different is the language and everything for drape don't compared.

1358
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 11: To what you had last year, It'll be it'll be different.

1359
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 18: I think that sometimes can get overblown because you know,

1360
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 18: you one word is apple, and other words tomato, and

1361
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 18: one system it means one thing, and another system it

1362
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 18: means something else. And the guys, just like men in black,

1363
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 18: you take the thing and just wipe the you know, wipe.

1364
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 11: The memory clean from you know, some of the things.

1365
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 18: But it's a lot of it is what you called

1366
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 18: this now we call this and it takes them a

1367
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 18: little bit of time to to acclimate to that. Our

1368
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 18: staff we've done the same thing and we've honestly, we've

1369
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 18: changed some things, and I'm in the process of doing

1370
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 18: the same thing too. So what we used to call

1371
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 18: something now we call something else because we've agreed that

1372
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 18: it's the best thing to do for the team.

1373
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 11: So we're all going to be in that same boat.

1374
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 18: Sure, we'll come up with a friendly find system when

1375
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 18: we use terms that don't mean anything to us now

1376
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 18: that used to. But no, I don't expect there to

1377
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 18: be you know, there'll be a period of adjustment, but

1378
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 18: I don't think that'll that be a big deal.

1379
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: Can you go deeper into what you're going through? What

1380
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: you just mentioned different?

1381
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean we you know, we we've had a

1382
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 18: way to talk for a number of years, and and

1383
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 18: so when you have a great group of guys, I

1384
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 18: can't say enough about the offensive staff.

1385
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 11: And and so when.

1386
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 18: We come together, we've talked about every aspect of our offense.

1387
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 18: And so you look at it and you say, okay, okay,

1388
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 18: does that make sense now?

1389
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 11: It might have made sense ten years ago, five years ago.

1390
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 18: How can we streamline it a little bit to make

1391
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 18: it make perfect sense and make it even better?

1392
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 11: And even though we were doing.

1393
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 18: That year to year, I think It's always great to

1394
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 18: have guys that have a different perspective because they're the

1395
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 18: ones that are going to teach it when they go

1396
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 18: into the individual position room. So it's important for them

1397
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 18: to feel confident in, you know, the way they know it.

1398
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 18: You know, it doesn't matter how I know it if

1399
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 18: they're in a different room. So we've really done a

1400
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 18: good job of of coming together. They've been given me

1401
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 18: great input. We've taken a lot of their ideas and

1402
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 18: thoughts and try to make it one and whatever. Whenever

1403
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 18: the ball gets placed down on the field, it's going

1404
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 18: to be our offense and it's our terminology and we'll

1405
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 18: we'll all know it by then, but there's gonna be

1406
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 18: a little bit of an adjustment period for everybody.

1407
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 20: If you had away from football, how did you reflect

1408
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 20: on who you are as a coach and how do

1409
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 20: you expect to evolve next now that you're back at

1410
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 20: the league.

1411
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think this was, you know, something you don't

1412
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 18: ever think about doing, but I would say it was.

1413
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 18: You know, It's just it's a blessing to have the

1414
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 18: time to go back and look at, you know, what

1415
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 18: you've been through in terms of the changes and different

1416
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 18: highs lows. You know, you look back at the past

1417
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 18: in terms of what we've done schematically and what the

1418
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 18: league is doing now strategically. You know, I had a

1419
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 18: really good opportunity last year to watch football without a

1420
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 18: lot of deadlines, you know, which was a new interesting

1421
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 18: opportunity for me, and just see different things that were

1422
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 18: coming up throughout the course of the league. You know,

1423
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 18: there's younger quarterbacks that are that are playing a little

1424
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 18: earlier than maybe they were ten, twelve, fifteen years ago.

1425
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 18: There's different things that people are using and doing schematically

1426
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 18: that are having a lot of success. There's some trends

1427
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 18: like there always are that are kind of i'd say,

1428
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 18: in vogue now. Whether they stay in vogue for long,

1429
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 18: I don't know. But it was just a really healthy

1430
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 18: opportunity for me to go back and look at what

1431
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 18: I've done, what I've been a part of, and then

1432
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 18: what else is going on in the league right now

1433
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 18: that I need to get better at that I need

1434
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 18: to start thinking about incorporating. And then this obviously this

1435
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 18: opportunity with you know, Thomas and Todd and Ashton and

1436
01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 18: Doug and Hass and Koog's and the guys we have here.

1437
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 18: I mean, it's been tremendous for me to have this

1438
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 18: opportunity to to really pick their brains and see what

1439
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 18: they know and and gleam as much information from them

1440
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 18: as I possibly can. And there was you know, I

1441
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 18: got an opportunity to go to a few different places

1442
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 18: last year.

1443
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,879
Speaker 11: I won't say where those were.

1444
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 18: But but but you know, there was some there was

1445
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 18: some great coaches that were very welcoming college pro I

1446
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 18: had an opportunity to see for the very first time

1447
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 18: in my life. You know, somebody else run a meeting,

1448
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 18: somebody else run a practice, somebody else coach a quarterback.

1449
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 18: And those were invaluable opportunities for me. And I know

1450
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 18: I'm a different I'll be a different person in terms

1451
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 18: of going forward because of the experiences that I've had

1452
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 18: an opportunity to see.

1453
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 22: Josh, when you when you when you were here before Johnny,

1454
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 22: there were some players who couldn't get your system, who

1455
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 22: really couldn't pick it up. So wondering as you evolved

1456
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 22: as a coach, and you're talking here chefternoon, how much

1457
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 22: of a coach, how much of growth does you have

1458
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 22: to be able to now place all players in a

1459
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 22: position to win and be successful.

1460
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 18: Yeah, hopefully hopefully a good one. Again, I think it's

1461
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 18: a it's a good process for our staff to be

1462
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 18: going through.

1463
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 11: I would argue we have a lot of guys that

1464
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 11: did get it pretty well.

1465
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 18: But but I understand the point in the question, and

1466
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 18: that's always going to be the case. There might be

1467
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 18: some guys that are you know, have a have a

1468
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 18: little bit a harder time of getting something. And part

1469
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 18: of our responsibility is to take, you know, those things

1470
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 18: we're learning about the players and try to figure out, Okay,

1471
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 18: if he can learn this, but not this, this and this,

1472
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 18: then we've got to try to do more of that,

1473
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 18: you know. So a big part of that is the

1474
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 18: decision making process that we need to go through once

1475
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 18: we start to get familiar with the players that we have.

1476
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 12: We've heard Mike and Elliott talk about the coaches having

1477
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 12: some collaborative voices and up kind of draft. Have you

1478
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 12: been able to get your input on what kind of

1479
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 12: players you'd like to see added in on the office

1480
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 12: and we're able to do dive into free agency as well.

1481
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, they've been great.

1482
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 18: I mean, I know all of us have have had

1483
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 18: players we've evaluated, both in free agency, and in the draft,

1484
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 18: and our job is to give them our honest opinion

1485
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 18: and input on the evaluations that we see and then

1486
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 18: they they have the hard job figuring out how to

1487
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 18: get them on the team. So, yeah, it's been great.

1488
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 18: We've had plenty of opportunity to look at players and

1489
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 18: you know, and compare and contrast you know, across position groups,

1490
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 18: what have you, and then you know, give them our

1491
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 18: input and then you know, let them go to work.

1492
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 17: That's what you're are on the wide receiver room and

1493
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 17: just who you have not really currently and you step

1494
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 17: on a big edition as well.

1495
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 18: Yeah, excited about all those guys. Everybody's got a clean slate,

1496
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 18: you know. And and to me, that's going to be

1497
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 18: an important message that I know Coach is going to

1498
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 18: give on Monday, and we're going to echo that. I've

1499
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 18: always you know, it's best to really refrain from making

1500
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 18: assessments on people until you really have them in your room,

1501
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 18: until you get to know them, till you coach them,

1502
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 18: until you put them on the field and you're running

1503
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 18: drills and running things offensively, and then you have an

1504
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 18: opportunity to correct things, see if they can fix it,

1505
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 18: make the corrections and get better. And so we have

1506
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 18: some young players that you know, certainly have a lot

1507
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 18: of ability, and we have some guys that have some experience,

1508
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 18: some of which I have a little experience with, you know,

1509
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 18: KB and Mac and you know some of those guys.

1510
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 18: And I'm starting to get to know some of these

1511
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 18: other guys that are trickling in here now and super

1512
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 18: excited to work with all of them.

1513
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 5: I really am.

1514
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 11: And Steph.

1515
01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 18: Steph is a unique individual, unique player, got a really

1516
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 18: good skill set, been a very productive player for a

1517
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 18: long time.

1518
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 11: Excited about his addition.

1519
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 18: My brother had an opportunity to coach him last year

1520
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 18: in Houston, so I have a you know, a little

1521
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 18: bit of insight into you know, what he's like day

1522
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 18: to day, and I'm really excited about about having him here.

1523
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 20: Last question, guys, last picture up signed three guys that

1524
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 20: you're familiar with, Mac Collins, Blayne Apps. Can you sort

1525
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 20: of give us a little bit of insight on those guys.

1526
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, I was fortunate to be around all

1527
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 18: three of them. Uh good football players, super uh, super individuals,

1528
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 18: really high character, care a lot about the little things

1529
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Speaker 18: and the details. They set a high bar for the

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01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 18: standard in their rooms, and you know, what they expect

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01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 18: from themselves, and I think that that then relates to

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Speaker 18: their teammates and uh, their respective sides of the ball.

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01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 18: And you know, I think all of them are about

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01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 18: the right stuff, and you know, they play hard, they

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01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 18: do they do the things that it requires to be good,

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 18: and I'm excited about having an opportunity to work with

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 18: them again.

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01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,879
Speaker 11: Here yep, thank you.

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01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 6: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. For deals,

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Speaker 6: buy a Toyota dot com.

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Speaker 2: All right back here in Patrin's Unfiltered. That was Josh McDaniels,

1542
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: live at the podium. Good to hear from him. Anything

1543
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: of note that you thought, uh, not a ton stood out?

1544
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I did you know, there was a lot

1545
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: of questions as we kind of assumed about the offense

1546
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 3: and the changes. You know, how much do you cater

1547
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 3: to you know, New York personnel. And mean, I think

1548
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: there's probably going to be some of that going on

1549
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 3: and some terminology changes and whatnot. So I think there's

1550
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,839
Speaker 3: going to be a learning curve both for the players

1551
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 3: learning his offense and for him sort of adapting his

1552
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 3: new offense to them.

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like he said, you know, there's a difference

1554
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: between our language, which is what we call things that

1555
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 2: everybody does, and then our strategy, which is how do

1556
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: we use our players to their best of their ability.

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01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: And I'm glad he said that because you know, there's

1558
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 2: everyone's just assuming that this is the tom Brady offense

1559
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: because that's what Josh McDaniels ran when he was here,

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: and I hope not because right now Drake may can't

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 2: do what tom Brady did and the way he did it.

1562
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: You know, like there could be the structure, like certain

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01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: things vertical, using the slot receiver more and all that stuff,

1564
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 2: but tom Brady, that was tom Brady's offense, you know

1565
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: by the time he was done. So yeah, I mean,

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01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 2: I think Josh McDaniel said the same thing that any

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: good coordinator would say, is we evaluate who our players are,

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 2: what their strengths are, and then we tailor our offense

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01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: to those strengths.

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 10: I did like the line about Drake that he's smitten

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 10: with the young man.

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I thought that was funny.

1573
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, I miss I missed that one.

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01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 10: With the young man.

1575
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,919
Speaker 3: So old fashion from the fifties.

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01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, it gives me the vapors. Yes, because so

1577
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: good stuff from good stuff from Josh McDaniel's there. Good

1578
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: to hear from him. So people want to call in

1579
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 2: or email about that. It's eight five five PATS five

1580
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: hundred is the hotline podcast at patriots dot com. Is

1581
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 2: the way to email us, and I will remind people

1582
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: if you haven't already sign up for the newsletter. Go

1583
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: to Patriots dot com slash pu newsletter and sign up

1584
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,520
Speaker 2: for that. Any teasers this week anything.

1585
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 3: So I just you know, I did during the break,

1586
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: I read the email for the first time, and I

1587
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 3: got to tell you I'm gonna have a hard time

1588
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 3: because I don't know if I have anything for you.

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01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 9: Really.

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01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well for the first question of the second.

1591
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 3: Second question, okay, you know the guy fiery question, got it.

1592
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if I have one.

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01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: Hey thing long and hard. Okay, you guys know the morning.

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01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 5: I'll do that.

1595
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Getting back to the emails, just a quick one

1596
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 2: caught my eye. Dan in Virginia and Michigan know that

1597
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: two emails in one show was frowned upon in this establishment.

1598
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: But a little mentioned fun factoid about Chuck Fairbanks, who

1599
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: absolutely should already be a member of the Patriots Hall

1600
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 2: of Fame, and it's criminal that he isn't is that

1601
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: he brought Ernie Adams into the Patriots in pro football.

1602
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 3: Adams first talked about that today.

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01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 5: Yep.

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01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 2: Adam's first professional position was an offensive assistant in Fairbanks

1605
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 2: Patriots staff. Dan also says something I was remiss in

1606
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: not mentioning Tuesday, are you gonna mention Patriots dot COM's

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01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 2: nomination for a Webby for your coverage of the Tom

1608
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 2: Brady's Hall of Fame induction ceremony and that we can

1609
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: vote for you? Help us, help you? Thank you, Dan.

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01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 2: I did not mention that Tuesday. I should have.

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 11: So.

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if people are familiar what the Webby

1613
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: Awards are, but they're kind of like the awards for

1614
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: the Internet for stuff that happens on the web. And

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01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: this year we put in the Tom Brady Hall of

1616
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: Fame Induction show as one of the nominees in its category.

1617
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't know which category it is, but right now

1618
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: I think we're in second or third place in voting.

1619
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 4: Some heavy hitters against too.

1620
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: We're up against like Wicked in NASA, So help us out. Yeah,

1621
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 2: so like Space and like one of the most popular

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01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: movies last year. So it's gonna be tough. But if

1623
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: you go to my X account, Fred Underscore Curse in

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01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 2: my timeline, there's a direct link to finding the place

1625
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: the page to vote. Because it's kind of tough. There's

1626
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 2: a million categories.

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01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 10: Did we have something on petris dot com for it too?

1628
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: Maybe I think you might have. Yeah, But you can

1629
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: go to my x account friend underscore cursion, follow me,

1630
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: you and.

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01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 3: Your friends that are I'm trying to get to well

1632
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 3: versed on the world wide Web.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get over the one hundred thousand hump?

1634
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 3: How much are you sure about?

1635
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: Ninety? Same?

1636
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 3: I'm straight man. Yeah, see, we did that.

1637
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: That's an old joke I've been using for many years

1638
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: because we've been a ten thousand for like ten You.

1639
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 8: Caught me that.

1640
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: I think you used something like I just want to

1641
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 3: get to one hundred thousand followers, yeah, And I was like,

1642
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 3: how many do you have? And he goes eight. That's

1643
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 3: something like that.

1644
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 8: That ten thousand thresholds a hard one.

1645
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 3: Well, that's the big one because once you get it's

1646
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 3: just eleven k, you know, as opposed to eight thousand,

1647
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eleven you know.

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01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 10: I'm stuck in fourteen thousand purgatory if you guys want

1649
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 10: to help me out.

1650
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 2: But another proof that no one can take a joke.

1651
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: I mean years ago, I did that on on my time, Like, Hey,

1652
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get over with a thousand and people,

1653
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 2: you're only a ten thousand? What are you talking about?

1654
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: That's like broke you moron boring people.

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01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to get to forty okay, and it's

1656
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 3: been a long I've been in the thirty thousands for

1657
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 3: a long time.

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 8: No, that's that's good though.

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01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 3: Really you might say, well, Paul, have you tried actually

1660
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 3: tweeting once in a while ago?

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01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1662
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 3: You just that might be a lot that might up

1663
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 3: your your followers, But no, there are You know, I

1664
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 3: think people can figure out, for obvious reasons why I'm

1665
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 3: not necessarily a frequent tweeter.

1666
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 4: We have to be careful, We have to.

1667
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 10: Be careful with the plot on Twitter like you do

1668
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 10: on the show.

1669
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis and West Virginia, you've been ignoring my emails lately,

1670
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 2: but here goes. Instead of ignoring my awesome emails, you

1671
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 2: should ignore it. You know who's boring phone calls for

1672
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 2: the betterment of the show. That could be anybody. I

1673
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,799
Speaker 2: don't know who he's talking about. Evan mentioned the smashing

1674
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: of a computer in Office Space, but it was actually

1675
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: a printer, which is fundamental to the plot of the movie.

1676
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 2: Not sure how he got that wrong or how none

1677
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 2: of you corrected him.

1678
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 3: I'm not a big office space guy. I'm not gonna lie.

1679
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 3: I know the movie, and I thought it was funny,

1680
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 3: you know, but it didn't change my life like it

1681
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 3: did in anybody that's say, twenty fifteen years younger than me. Yeah,

1682
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,799
Speaker 3: it seemed to like really impact your lives.

1683
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: Okay.

1684
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 10: I've been getting a lot of inquiries Fred about people

1685
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 10: asking me how they I can get you to read

1686
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 10: their emails. Someone particularly asked what the best time to

1687
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 10: email into the show is during the show to increase

1688
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 10: the likely during the show.

1689
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless it's like, yeah, tremendous, it has to be

1690
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 3: like a tremendous point that we hadn't thought of off

1691
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 3: you know, like off show hours. Otherwise during the show.

1692
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: And by the way, so a lot of people try

1693
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 2: to put a headline in that will be make me

1694
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 2: read it.

1695
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 3: That's because it works for Felger all the time, right, don't.

1696
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 2: It's not the headline. It's your first two lines, because

1697
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: I get a preview in my email column. So it's

1698
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: the first two lines that will more likely catch my

1699
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 2: eye than your headline, because I know a lot of

1700
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: you try to trick me with your headlines. So it's

1701
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 2: gonna be pithy. If you have a really long email,

1702
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read it because I don't want

1703
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,440
Speaker 2: to bore people. It's going to be like a paragraph

1704
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 2: of a concise, good idea or making fun of somebody.

1705
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 3: I like that.

1706
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 10: Here you go, just make fun of us.

1707
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: Get it read.

1708
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we did the Webby Award, and I think

1709
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 3: we all thought it was already there, and it is.

1710
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 3: It's on patriots dot com. You can vote there, and

1711
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 3: I think you have to do so by April seventeenth.

1712
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: I think so that's the deadline. So it would be

1713
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 2: cool if we want. But like I said, we're against

1714
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 2: some heavy hitters there. Let's go back to the hotline

1715
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 2: eight five five past five hundred, Brent's and reno, what's up?

1716
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 5: Brent?

1717
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: Brent, Brent is lost his game slots. Let's go to

1718
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: Nelson in La Nelson, don't swear?

1719
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 5: What's up?

1720
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 2: Nelson, gone Nelson in LA. I think they got scared

1721
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 2: away by that email about you know who, boring email

1722
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: phone calls. They all think it's about them. Cam and

1723
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 2: East Providence. What's up, Cam Cam?

1724
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 3: You gotta know?

1725
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: Are we having trouble with the phones?

1726
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 3: Got to push away? Okay, got to push away from

1727
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: the phone.

1728
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 2: We'll try to reset that. We'll go back to emails.

1729
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: Let's see. Tony says, how could no one asked Josh

1730
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 2: McDaniels his thoughts on Joe Milton being dealt Do you

1731
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: do you agree with that? And do you think that

1732
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 2: was an important question?

1733
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not going to rate the importance,

1734
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 3: but yes, that's a question that should have been asked.

1735
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: It just happened, right, What did you learn?

1736
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 10: I mean we only got three questions that asked the

1737
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 10: same thing in different words about what did you learn?

1738
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 5: Right?

1739
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 3: And yeah, Joe, someone should ask.

1740
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: Even if it's just a throwaway question, you got to

1741
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: get it on record.

1742
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 3: I would have gone to the side Josh.

1743
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Sam and Saint Catherine's not outraged like some

1744
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,839
Speaker 2: of the others at the trade returner value of Milton.

1745
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 2: That just makes me question drafting him. In the first place.

1746
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 2: That was kind of Paul's thing in terms of things ball,

1747
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: no or spew. Drafting a quarterback every year is good business, unquote,

1748
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 2: comes to comes in right behind, build through the trenches.

1749
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: But was this good business or punting on a pick

1750
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: for a year. It's only a nineteen pick difference from

1751
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: where he was drafted to what we got for him.

1752
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: Plus he had to we had to give up a

1753
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: seventh in drafting him. Caused some noise for Drake along

1754
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 2: with the first pick this year, although I don't fully

1755
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: put that win on Joe Milton solely. How was this

1756
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 2: good for business? What was the point?

1757
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 8: Well?

1758
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 2: I think good good email good points also adds to

1759
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: the speculation that there had to be more than just

1760
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 2: getting a low fifth round pick. There had to be

1761
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: some pressure that, hey, where where do I stand? I

1762
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: want to move on, I want a chance to play

1763
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 2: in this league. You know, please get rid of me.

1764
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: So I think that could have had something to do

1765
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: with it. But you know, Joe, I mean, Paul, you

1766
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: were on it when we first drafted. It's like, why

1767
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: are we drafted this guy?

1768
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't mean that I was right. That was

1769
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 3: my feeling, was I just felt I do believe in

1770
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 3: that sort of you know, I know it's a cliche

1771
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 3: of drafting quarterbacks every year is good business. I don't

1772
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 3: think drafting two is necessarily great business. I know Washington

1773
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 3: did that years ago with RG three and Kirk Cousins,

1774
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 3: and it worked because RG three was great. Then you

1775
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 3: got hurt, your cousin's played, and he proved to be

1776
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 3: certainly a worthy fill in, you know, worthy starter in

1777
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 3: the league. Yeah, that worked out. I don't think that

1778
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 3: that necessarily is something you have to do. I would

1779
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 3: rather have taken a guy there that maybe could represent

1780
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: another offensive lineman or something right now.

1781
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 10: As depth, that example also kind of feels like the exception,

1782
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 10: not that rule.

1783
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know of a lot of teams that

1784
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: make a habit of taking two quarterbacks in a year

1785
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 3: when they need one. You know, it's one thing to

1786
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 3: take a quarterback because you just thought, well, the value

1787
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 3: was too high and he was available. What else were

1788
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 3: we going to take. I like the idea of taking

1789
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and trying to develop them. I think this one

1790
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 3: had something to do with it.

1791
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: If you're going to take one to try to develop them,

1792
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 2: you've got to keep them for more than one year.

1793
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 2: So that's why there was something else going on here.

1794
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I think you're right. I think

1795
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: you're onto something for it.

1796
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 2: Luke in Atlanta, can you please read the definition of

1797
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: the endowment effect. The endowment effect is a cognitive bias

1798
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: where people assign a higher value to items they own

1799
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: compared to items they don't, leading to reluctance to trade

1800
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: or sell them. Everyone freaking out about the Milton trade

1801
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 2: is falling victim to this, and it happens all the time.

1802
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: It's one of those all period, all the period. No,

1803
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 2: you like that, you don't like that. Nobody in the

1804
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: league cares about Joe fing Milton. There is a ninety

1805
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 2: nine point nine nine nine percent chance that this trade

1806
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 2: is utterly meaningless. It is the least important news of

1807
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: this entire off season. Wow, a lot of caps there too.

1808
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 10: People feel very strongly either way.

1809
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 3: They have a lot of Milton takes, strong Milton takes.

1810
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1811
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's good for radio. I guess. Spiking Fresno says

1812
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: I liked London's fire. That was an earlier caller.

1813
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 3: I liked London's fire too. I just disagree with him all.

1814
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 2: But his listening skills rivaled Mark in the Bays. If

1815
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 2: we're loving players based solely upon their trades in our

1816
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: wildest imaginations, we should be lamenting the loss of Nikhil

1817
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: Harry size, Taekwon Thornton's speed, Chad Jackson, Jackson's catch radius,

1818
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: Chris Singleton's strength, in Mac Jones's brain. I'm joking because

1819
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: Milton isn't necessarily a bust. He might end up being

1820
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 2: a competent backup journeyman somewhere, or maybe he'll be more

1821
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: than he's shown. But some people are confusing entertaining traits

1822
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: with overall ability. People used to lament how boring it

1823
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 2: was to watch Tom Brady. I'll take that kind of

1824
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: boring any day. Who said Brady was boring.

1825
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 3: A lot of people just said he didn't have those

1826
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 3: physical skills that wowed you. Oh right, it's quarterback. Well

1827
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 3: that was early in his career. But people you know,

1828
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 3: like you know Aaron Rodgers, just like you know the

1829
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: way he throws the ball, and you know and Lamar

1830
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 3: Jackson the way he runs around. Brady didn't do any

1831
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 3: of those things, but he did him all better than

1832
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 3: everybody else. You know. The whole idea of being a quarterback,

1833
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:49,959
Speaker 3: so I know what Spee's talking.

1834
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: About Sean and Vancouver. To preface this email, I should

1835
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: say that I am a Joe Milton fan. Five years

1836
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: from now, i'll probably remember that Joe Milton was drafted

1837
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 2: by the Patriots, much less likely if he somehow leads

1838
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 2: the Cowboys to the Super Bowl, I'll consider this trade

1839
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 2: to be a huge theft silver lining. Milton rather be

1840
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: in Dallas because he is guessing that Drake may will

1841
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: be the Patriots starting quarterback for the next ten years,

1842
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: while he is more confident that he'll start for the

1843
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 2: Cowboys in less than five.

1844
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 3: Boy, Christian Campbell just hit another home run.

1845
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 8: It looks good. Freddy kid looks good.

1846
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 2: I like what I see from his agent.

1847
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 3: I would be looking for a new job. I don't

1848
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 3: believe he can't believe he signed that contract eight years,

1849
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 3: sixty million. I think he's gonna be underpaid by bye.

1850
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 2: Like June, Well, they'll be asking for a new one.

1851
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 3: Good luck with that. You just signed an eight year contract.

1852
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: Valerian writes in that Joe Milton trade is fine in

1853
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: my mind if we're gonna rebuild this team into a

1854
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 2: perennial contender. We're gonna need later round picks that work out.

1855
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 2: We drafted him in the sixth round, turned him, turned

1856
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: him and a seventh round pick into a fifth rounder.

1857
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:52,919
Speaker 2: The team gets another shot.

1858
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 3: Moved up nineteen spots. I just want that stated.

1859
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: The team gets another shot in this draft to look

1860
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: for a player that could be more impactful in the

1861
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 2: near future than Milton. Milton was always a great what if.

1862
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 2: But if we have our quarterback of the future in

1863
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 2: May and Josh Dobbs is a fine backup, pick up

1864
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 2: another six round quarterback or an undrafted rookie and move on. Okay,

1865
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: I think that's what they did.

1866
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I would have taken a positional player

1867
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 3: last year with that pick, because I think that would

1868
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 3: have had a chance in the spot that they were

1869
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 3: last year. The more chances that you had to add

1870
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 3: players that could help, I would have taken.

1871
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: Yep, let me see, I want to move on from

1872
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 2: the Milton subject. I'm getting bored.

1873
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there is really not much else to

1874
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 3: say about Milton. I think we all kind of are

1875
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 3: a little bit surprised that they moved on so quickly,

1876
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 3: unless they were going to get blown away in a

1877
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 3: trade deal, trade package, and they didn't. But you know,

1878
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 3: it's what it is. I think Fred's right. I think

1879
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 3: there's probably as much to do with something away from

1880
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 3: the field than we know.

1881
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: Yep, let's see Will Campbell's stuff, Brandon. If Will Campbell

1882
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 2: was well above the thirty three and threshold for tackle

1883
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 2: arm length, where would he have ranked among last year's tackles.

1884
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 2: And if we draft Campbell as a tackle, what's the

1885
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 2: plan to make sure he's a better fit there versus

1886
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 2: a guard? Do they just line them up against the

1887
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 2: guy with the longest arms and say good luck? What

1888
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 2: goes into evaluating him once they have the player?

1889
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,600
Speaker 3: I think they'll just evaluate the whole, the entirety of

1890
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 3: the package and see if he you know, how he

1891
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 3: handles pass rushers. I mean it's not necessarily long arms

1892
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 3: pass rushers, right, you know, you know, does he does

1893
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 3: he have the ability to keep guys wide?

1894
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 2: And I mean as a tackle, there's some rookies that

1895
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: they get on the team and you don't really see them,

1896
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 2: and where when we get to see all the practices

1897
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 2: go up against the first number ones once in a

1898
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: while they put him in. I think if they were

1899
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 2: to take Campbell. I think early on, once they get

1900
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 2: into August, I mean into training camp, We're going to

1901
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 2: see him going up against you know whoever you know,

1902
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 2: Harvey Lang or whoever it.

1903
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 3: Is Harvey Lang.

1904
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 2: Who's the guy they've gotten free agency?

1905
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 3: Harold Landry, Harold Landry.

1906
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like.

1907
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 3: Wow, I speak Fred, but sometimes.

1908
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 2: You make it tough. Harold Landry. Who's Harvey Lang. There

1909
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: wasn't Harvey Lang.

1910
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1911
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 4: It's like a character from the show.

1912
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 5: That's good.

1913
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 3: It's good.

1914
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh I like this email, Matt writes in

1915
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 2: Fred is right, he says, yes, he is one of

1916
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: the few headlines I'll I'll read. After hearing Fred's proposed

1917
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 2: new measurement system for O line arm length, I discovered

1918
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: that this measurement already exists in the world of biomechanics

1919
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 2: and advanced analytics. What Fred is describing, and I did

1920
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 2: this on Tuesday. What Fred is describing is the anterior

1921
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 2: forward plane reach. Basically, Campbell has such flexibility and mobility

1922
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: as upper body that is more than makes up for

1923
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: his static arm length. A YouTuber named pat Stats posted

1924
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 2: an in depth look at Campbell from a biomechanic perspective

1925
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 2: to talk about interior forward playing reach starts thirty eight

1926
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 2: minutes into this video.

1927
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 3: He concludes, can we watch the video? No, it's only

1928
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 3: thirty eight minutes.

1929
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 2: I know. He concludes that Campbell's AFPR is elite and

1930
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 2: longer than other prospects and players with arms over thirty

1931
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: four inches. Fred is such a next level thinker that

1932
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 2: he was able to independently conjure up this important metric

1933
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: that teams look at with proprietary analytics. I agree after

1934
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 2: of stats video, I'm convinced Campbell should be the pick

1935
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 2: at four. So I'm going to save that email.

1936
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 3: So do you think they're going to pick Campbell at four.

1937
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 2: If Hunter and Carter are gone? Yes, yes I will,

1938
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 2: and I agree with him.

1939
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 4: I think so too.

1940
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 3: But I think they're telling too many people that they're

1941
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 3: like Campbell.

1942
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's the times.

1943
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 3: I think that they're not going to take them.

1944
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 2: That's sometimes a red flag.

1945
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 3: I don't I mean, I don't have any like anything

1946
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 3: concrete to base that on. I'm just I feel like

1947
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 3: at the combine and then at the owners meetings last week,

1948
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 3: it just seemed like, oh yeah, well, I don't see

1949
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 3: any other way you can evaluate them, you know, he played,

1950
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm starting to think.

1951
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 10: Are you jumping on train?

1952
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:29,719
Speaker 3: What's your change?

1953
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 11: Running back?

1954
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we get into that room where these guys

1955
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 2: have been and what they saw on herd, I just

1956
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 2: want you guys to know that my idea for measuring

1957
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:44,440
Speaker 2: offensive line arm length is already part of advanced analytics,

1958
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 2: and I thought of it on my own, so.

1959
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 3: That it's not exactly the same as what you said,

1960
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 3: but I'm going to give you credit anyway. He talked

1961
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 3: about lean forward, leaning, flexibility and stuff. You're talking about

1962
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 3: blocking guys with you, the heel of you, which makes

1963
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 3: U how to do it, how to do it which

1964
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 3: makes no sense.

1965
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 4: Had a little arm land talk where we just were

1966
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 4: as you can probably imagine.

1967
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Douckie, Maroon, Jus and Evan are back and we

1968
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: got to listen to Josh McDaniels. We didn't get to

1969
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,600
Speaker 2: talk to all the offensive coaches like you did. But

1970
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 2: quick question on McDaniels, why did anyone ask about the

1971
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: trade for Joe Milton.

1972
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I surprised, I said before I thought that they

1973
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 8: that they would.

1974
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know.

1975
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 2: That wasn't talked about among your friends afterwards. No, No,

1976
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 2: I mean there's sixteen people from clintis there not one

1977
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 2: person could ask about John Milton? Not that I care,

1978
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 2: I really don't.

1979
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 3: I do think it's a relevant question.

1980
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1981
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 4: No, I think you know, this was our first time

1982
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 4: talking to him since he's back, and I think there

1983
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 4: was just bigger picture questions, one.

1984
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 3: Less question related to what he's did last year in

1985
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 3: his time on Sure.

1986
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 4: But I think my point is is that there's more important,

1987
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 4: bigger picture questions about Drake May and the offense and

1988
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 4: the people that are actually going to be here, and

1989
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 4: then talking about I.

1990
01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 2: Think the most important thing is I didn't know there

1991
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 2: was so many nicknames among the coaches already.

1992
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I had to look her because I met

1993
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 8: these guys. Who are all these guys like I need

1994
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 8: to like professor course on what they're.

1995
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 2: Spanky and I was.

1996
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 3: I was out after, but I was out after like

1997
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 3: the fourth one, Spanky.

1998
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 8: It's before your time, just joking comedy. He doesn't, it's

1999
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 8: a show.

2000
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 5: He wanted to be.

2001
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 2: Let's get serious. What did you glean from leaving our show?

2002
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 8: Oh? I just I mean you guys probably discussed Josh.

2003
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 8: I would just say my one thought on Josh just

2004
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 8: seems like chill Josh. I felt I just felt a relaxed,

2005
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 8: more relaxed vibe about him. Maybe it's the year off,

2006
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 8: maybe it's the off season, maybe the stress just haven't

2007
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 8: said hasn't said it yet, But to me, he sounded

2008
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 8: a little bit more relaxed, a little bit calmer, in

2009
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 8: a good place right now.

2010
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 2: He knows the answers to the test.

2011
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 8: He does, he does.

2012
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah. My favorite answer from him was about as

2013
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 4: you could imagine the language versus the strategy, and that's

2014
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 4: something that we've talked about. I feel like the show

2015
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 4: a lot and they speak a different language, but you know,

2016
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 4: the strategy is going to be adapted to the players,

2017
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:07,919
Speaker 4: is you know what he said? So I think anybody

2018
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 4: that thinks that he's just going to put Drake May

2019
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 4: right into the Tom Brady offense and expect him to

2020
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 4: operate it like he's Tom Brady.

2021
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 2: Well listening to the show, that's exactly what I said.

2022
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know they were going to have a little

2023
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 4: bit of difference there. I talked a little bit to

2024
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:24,719
Speaker 4: Ashton Grant, the quarterbacks coach now be Drake May's coach,

2025
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,759
Speaker 4: and he said that they're going to keep the footwork

2026
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 4: the same, which I was happy to hear about. But

2027
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 4: there is going to be more on Drake's plate at

2028
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. You know, they are going to

2029
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 4: put you know, he's going to have the keys to

2030
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 4: the ferrari and it's going to be up to him

2031
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 4: to drive the car. So it won't be the center,

2032
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 4: you know, making the calls. It sounds like it's going

2033
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 4: to be the quarterback.

2034
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,759
Speaker 2: And now that's back to that's Tom Brady.

2035
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 4: Yep, there's gonna be quite a bit on his plate,

2036
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 4: which some quarterbacks love, you know, the kind of the

2037
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 4: chess match and all that kind of stuff. Now, I

2038
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 4: don't think it's going to be two feet into the

2039
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 4: deep end right away. I'm sure that they'll kind of

2040
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 4: ease him into that. But he did mention they'll see

2041
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 4: how it goes, you know, in the spring, in the summer.

2042
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 4: If it's too much, then they'll they'll obviously pull back.

2043
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 4: But it does sound like, you know, Josh McDaniel's really

2044
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 4: close to the vest as you can imagine about the

2045
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 4: actual scheme tweaks that they're going to make, But it

2046
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 4: does sound like they're going to adapt some things.

2047
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 2: Did you get to talk to Doug Marone?

2048
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 8: That was the only guy I didn't get in it's

2049
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 8: a little bit of a rapid fire, and no Evin

2050
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 8: got into Yeah, why don't you give that?

2051
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 4: That was my first stop. So he got right off

2052
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 4: the bat, got asked about arm length and why thirty

2053
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 4: two and five as and thirty three inches is such

2054
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 4: a big difference, and he gave the boyer a played

2055
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 4: answer that that Vrabel's given and even Elliott wolf is

2056
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 4: given in the past, which it's all about how you

2057
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 4: play right, if you play to the max of your length,

2058
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 4: if you use what you have to the best of

2059
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 4: your ability. Then he made a point to say that

2060
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 4: he doesn't he doesn't really have a type at tackle.

2061
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,560
Speaker 4: You know, if it's a however you win, you in

2062
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 4: whether you're a big guy, small guy, athletic guy, you know,

2063
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 4: powerful guy, whatever. He said that he's played with all

2064
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 4: different types of left tackles and all, you know, different

2065
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 4: types of guys have been successful in different ways, So

2066
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 4: he doesn't have an exact archetype of like, this is

2067
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 4: the five things that I need my left tackle to

2068
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 4: be able to do. So he seemed more pretty open

2069
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 4: to all avenues about addressing personnel.

2070
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2071
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 8: I went first with Ashton Grant, who was a local kid,

2072
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 8: very happy to be back in the area. He said

2073
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 8: he thinks it is his wife's favorite person right now

2074
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,759
Speaker 8: because her family and his family both live in Connecticut.

2075
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 8: So they've moved back to the area and he's got

2076
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 8: some help. But it's been working a lot with Josh said,

2077
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 8: every day at like twelve thirty, they're going to Dunkin

2078
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 8: Donuts and he's picking his brain. Seems very excited. Had

2079
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,679
Speaker 8: some experience with Rabel in Cleveland that he talked about

2080
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 8: that was interesting, the kind of relationship that they built there.

2081
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 8: I popped over to Todd Downing real quick, who just

2082
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 8: echoed what McDaniel said about clean slates, that he had

2083
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 8: done a lot of work on Polk and Baker coming out,

2084
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,799
Speaker 8: and you know that he has a lot of respect

2085
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 8: for their talent and their skills and trying to get

2086
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 8: them to a place where they can bring that out.

2087
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 8: Hopped in on Tony Duce running backs coach. Seems like

2088
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 8: a young Ivan fears to me, one of those deep

2089
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 8: voice kind of has a presence about him. Was asked

2090
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 8: a little bit about Ramondre spoke highly of him, of course.

2091
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 8: And then lastly I hopped in with Thomas Brown, where

2092
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 8: Evan was as well, and he was what was he

2093
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 8: talking about?

2094
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we actually I enjoyed talking to Thomas Brown.

2095
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a guy that you can tell and

2096
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 4: he was the interim coach in Chicago. He's been an

2097
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. He definitely thinks like an offensive coordinator. You know,

2098
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 4: his technical titles past game coordinator and tight ends coach,

2099
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 4: but you can tell that he kind of thinks about

2100
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 4: the scheme and the big picture stuff as much as

2101
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 4: the minutia. And we just talked a little bit about

2102
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 4: you know, what does that mean to be the pass

2103
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 4: game coordinator? I think was the number one question he got.

2104
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 4: He said he got three times, so I felt a

2105
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 4: little bad about that, but you know, he basically said

2106
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 4: that his job is to sort of be a sounding

2107
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 4: board between you know, everybody, the players, other coaches, McDaniels,

2108
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 4: to make sure that it's that the offense is as

2109
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 4: good and as streamlined and making as much sense as

2110
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 4: it possibly came in language wise. And then he also

2111
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 4: said that you know, he'll have some input schematically on

2112
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 4: play design and things like that, and you know, pulling

2113
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 4: from his experiences in the past.

2114
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, the other thing was interesting just being selective Thomas

2115
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 8: Brown talking about this opportunity and really being calculating about

2116
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 8: what opportunities he he wanted to explore. Just said he

2117
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 8: got a random text from Mike Rabel this offseason and

2118
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 8: that's how the process all started. But yeah, it's good,

2119
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 8: good staff, good good start off. I was fortunate I

2120
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:43,919
Speaker 8: didn't get to Marone.

2121
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 2: A lot of media.

2122
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of media, Andy Hart, a lot of media.

2123
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 8: Andy Hard as he can see on our TV here

2124
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 8: the Red Sox are on. That's why I asked, I said,

2125
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 8: Andy Hard as I live and breathe.

2126
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, McDaniels was peppered, I would say, not like in

2127
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 4: like a negative way, but like there was just it

2128
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 4: was kind of tough to get a question and you know,

2129
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 4: there was a lot of people trying to ask questions

2130
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 4: to him and.

2131
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 3: Still we just had the same one over and over.

2132
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 4: U man, But yeah, it was. It always puts me

2133
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 4: in a tough spot, but yeah, it was good.

2134
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 3: It was.

2135
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 4: It was good to hear everybody.

2136
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 3: Which one regg I knew that, I knew that, I

2137
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 3: knew that would put a smile on my voice.

2138
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 4: To tribe of course.

2139
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah every night when we watched when my wife gets up,

2140
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, all that money. But he finally hit one.

2141
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 5: Good.

2142
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 8: Okay, I watched Little Socks ast night. Now with the

2143
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 8: picture there, did pretty good. He had a nice had

2144
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 8: a great.

2145
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is like Snabbers again.

2146
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 8: Yeah that's his name.

2147
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 2: He good. Yeah, so all right, fun with the offensive coaches.

2148
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll have the Unfortunately Terrell Williams is out of town,

2149
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 8: so we will not have the defensive coordinator.

2150
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 3: They're gonna makes me feel better wop in.

2151
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 8: Jerney's spring and we'll still meet with the defensive coaches tomorrow,

2152
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 8: so it makes me feel I know, we don't cover

2153
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 8: it with video, and there'll probably be some kind of video,

2154
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 8: but we'll do it written up of those defensive coaches

2155
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 8: as well.

2156
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 4: Oh last thing, Thomas Brown was asked about game day

2157
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 4: roles and if they've gone over you know, where people

2158
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 4: are going to be and things like that, and somebody

2159
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 4: asked them if who's going to call plays and he

2160
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 4: was like, Josh is going to call the play, and so.

2161
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 2: We're still doing that.

2162
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was just like three years ago.

2163
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty funny. He was like, I think

2164
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 4: Josh is going to handle that.

2165
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 2: Remember the year during practice were trying to Patricia figure

2166
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 2: out who's got the who's talking.

2167
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 4: It does sound like they have.

2168
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 8: Looks like Patricia Joe John just got a microphone to.

2169
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 4: Talk to Thomas Brown maybe about sitting up in the

2170
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 4: booth as eyes in the sky and you know, to

2171
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 4: be in McDaniels zar from the booth.

2172
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: So okay, Ryan and o'hido Ryan, o'hido Ryan and Idaho rights.

2173
01:42:56,240 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 2: In listening on Tuesday, I experienced a little day javous

2174
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 2: with fred saying that at bare minimum, Will Campbell will

2175
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 2: be a really good guard if he doesn't pan out

2176
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 2: a tackle. Freddie, he said this before. Remember when the

2177
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 2: Pagris drafted Isaiah Win. You said his floord be a

2178
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl guard in the NFL. Win turned out to

2179
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 2: be an oft injured and underwhelming offensive lineman, not even

2180
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 2: remotely worthy of a first round pick, and they took

2181
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 2: him twenty third, not fourth.

2182
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 8: I did say that Isaiah winjard that.

2183
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 23: Man may not come up when I was ripping you

2184
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 23: off the Isaiah Win, like Isaiah Win was small for

2185
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 23: an NFL offensive line right like by NFL standard guard,

2186
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 23: center and tackle anywhere.

2187
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna be fair too and say there's a

2188
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 3: big difference between the twenties the mid twenties where he

2189
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 3: got picked in the fourth overall. Now the hit by

2190
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 3: that that's a different no, that they both have two Now,

2191
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 3: that's that's that's the big difference is uh, you know

2192
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 3: Campbell was considered to be an elite prospect in this

2193
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 3: particular draft to that and Win, you know Win really

2194
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 3: wasn't now they both. I mean I think I could

2195
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 3: make it. I could make the argument and just say, like,

2196
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 3: you know, he played at a high level in the SEC,

2197
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 3: which is the be all end all according to everybody now,

2198
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 3: but I don't think that he's thought I don't think

2199
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 3: Win was thought of as highly as Campbell is right now.

2200
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean Campbell is just his arms. Everything

2201
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 8: else stacks up.

2202
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 2: Ryan also says, I understand Campbell is a much better

2203
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 2: prospect than Win, and I would be shocked if he

2204
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 2: does not have a better NFL career. But I will

2205
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 2: personally be incredibly disappointed if a premium pick is used

2206
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 2: on a player who ends up being a really good

2207
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,799
Speaker 2: guard with a guy like Janty available for the Patriots,

2208
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 2: who Fred also gushed about on Tuesday. Fred, you said

2209
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:43,799
Speaker 2: the team who does take Janty will get an awesome player.

2210
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:47,759
Speaker 2: Let's be that team. Plus imagine Mike swooning over jant.

2211
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 24: Gent's workout the shirtless I mean, I was just going

2212
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 24: to bring that up, Paul. Actually I'm glad you brought

2213
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 24: it up, because it was it wasn't quite Derek Henry

2214
01:44:58,400 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 24: where it was just a mountain of him.

2215
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 5: Man.

2216
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 8: But that guy what they used to call that old

2217
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 8: Doug what was that old running back from Tampa. The

2218
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 8: muscle hamster that I mean, Genty is just he's like

2219
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 8: a fire hydrant of muscle and it's impressive to see.

2220
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 8: So yes, I'm glad I wrote that piece before I

2221
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 8: saw him do that workout, So no one tried to

2222
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 8: accuse me, like you're kind of insinuating now that it

2223
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 8: was all based on how he looked with his shirt up.

2224
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Mike's he is thick.

2225
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,520
Speaker 2: Connor reminds us Paul that Harvey Langy was the undrafted

2226
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 2: linebacker at seventeen who was involved in the car accident.

2227
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 3: It was Harvey Longy, but yes, and that it must

2228
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,600
Speaker 3: be who Fred was thinking about. That's a good call, emailer.

2229
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 2: Because I called Harold Landry Harvey Lang.

2230
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,719
Speaker 3: You know you said, you said Harvey Lang.

2231
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:46,759
Speaker 10: And Harvey Lang is like a random actor from some film,

2232
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 10: a Lucille Ball somehow.

2233
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 3: I don't even Harley.

2234
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 8: You haven't seen Johns and you know who Lucille Ball is.

2235
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:54,679
Speaker 4: This is I love dig.

2236
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 3: But that's a good call by the emailer, because that's

2237
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 3: exactly that's absolutely who Fred was thinking. Harvey LONGI in

2238
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 3: his mind, and that's why he said Harvey Lang.

2239
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 2: Las Vegas says, Bill is Parcels nickname. What is Bill

2240
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 2: parcells actual first name?

2241
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,520
Speaker 3: Twaine? That's correct, Dwayne Charles Parcells.

2242
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 2: He's not even there's not even a William there.

2243
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 8: Did anyone ever ask him how you got the Bill important?

2244
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 8: No can ask him about.

2245
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,679
Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame. I do know how he actually

2246
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 2: got the tuna one on it, but I can't say

2247
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 2: it on air.

2248
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 8: Looks like a tuna.

2249
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 3: Sorry, he looked like a tuna silver sun kissed. Let's see,

2250
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 3: they didn't have silver heroin. They called him tuna when

2251
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 3: they first called him.

2252
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 8: I guess right. Tunas are probably like blue.

2253
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they're they're shiny I can only imagine what

2254
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 3: Haven't thinks of this? He doesn't even like the trivia questions.

2255
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 8: We're talking about colors of tuna.

2256
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 2: Were just.

2257
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 24: Doesn't haven't sleep like someone says sleep mode.

2258
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 2: And then you mentioned you can't even argue that's true.

2259
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2260
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 4: I mean, like tuna on your own time, youven like tuna.

2261
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, there's no way iven't eats tuna.

2262
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 2: You don't eat tuna.

2263
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,600
Speaker 4: I like a good tuna melt, but like I'm not

2264
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 4: gonna eat like a like a seared piece of tuna.

2265
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Have you ever had it?

2266
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 13: Yeah, you don't know.

2267
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 8: You got a good sauce.

2268
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 2: It's like swordfish.

2269
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like swordfish spicy tunable.

2270
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge seafood guy, but Fred Fred and

2271
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 3: Alex are right, you get a good sword fish. Yeah. Yeah,

2272
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 3: it's almost like it's almost like you can you can

2273
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 3: fake yourself out into thinking you're eating meat.

2274
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, tuna is my go to for sushi anytime,

2275
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:47,560
Speaker 8: Like that's the bast spicy Eat a nice spicy tuna.

2276
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 3: Greg, we can all just come together, Yeah, I mean,

2277
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 3: no arguing.

2278
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:54,719
Speaker 2: You know, sushi was the common bones.

2279
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 4: I do love sushi. There you go, Greg.

2280
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 2: Says, So, you guys were talking about the pages whole

2281
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 2: fame and coaches getting in a few days ago. I

2282
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 2: was wondering if anyone thinks Josh McDaniel should be in

2283
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 2: there someday. I'm not sure if I'd put him in myself,

2284
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 2: and I doubt Fred would either, but he's had a

2285
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,639
Speaker 2: pretty successful Patriot's career, both on and off for about

2286
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 2: twenty years now, thanks for the many years of content.

2287
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 8: I mean, I didn't quite think that while I was watching,

2288
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 8: and I was just feeling, I'm kind of nostalgic. I

2289
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 8: like having Josh back, that nostalgia of having someone familiar back,

2290
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 8: and I'm a sucker for it, no question. But I

2291
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 8: did think this is the first time he's been an

2292
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 8: offensive coordinator under a coach not Bill Belichick.

2293
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 2: Right, So let's say right now, MS briefly, right, But

2294
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 2: if he and this this is the chance, this is

2295
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 2: the chance to have like playoff runs and the offense

2296
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 2: is great, and he retires, I might consider that.

2297
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I was wondering, probably in a Super

2298
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 4: Bowl kind of in like a similar category as Dante Scarneki, like,

2299
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 4: would Anie Adams get any he should he should, you know,

2300
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 4: like consideration, like as a contr or not not to

2301
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:01,799
Speaker 4: be on the ballot.

2302
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 8: But well, that was that was my first thought when

2303
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 8: we were initially hearing that that the parcels thing was

2304
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 8: going to happen, and it was like, who do you

2305
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 8: think it is? And Ernie was the first one off

2306
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 8: the top of my head. It's a contributor, which would

2307
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:13,879
Speaker 8: have been weird to put him in before Bill, I think.

2308
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's probably fair.

2309
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 3: It's good to see Ernie today.

2310
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, how was he doing? He looked good, spry.

2311
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 3: Did he look the same as he always do? You think?

2312
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 3: Didn't change it all? His newspaper didn't change it all.

2313
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:28,679
Speaker 3: I don't. I didn't see the newspaper, the New York Times.

2314
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 3: He did come in with his umbrella, always really wet

2315
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 3: out there.

2316
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 8: Underrated part of the schedule release last year was like

2317
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 8: Ernie had a very small part, but it was kind

2318
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 8: of like throughout the day he had random pieces and

2319
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 8: while he wasn't being in the shoot, he just sat

2320
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,680
Speaker 8: in Fred's office and read the newspaper.

2321
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 2: For him because it was so much downtime. So I'm

2322
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 2: sitting at the table with him and like I'm trying

2323
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 2: to think of something to uh. He's reading the newspaper

2324
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, stock market had a good day,

2325
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,600
Speaker 2: and he's like mm hmm. And it's like, you know,

2326
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: like a husband talking to the wife, you know, like

2327
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,679
Speaker 2: that was the exactly looks back down at the paper.

2328
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 8: That was the exact response I got when I told

2329
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 8: them I kept track of Bill's hoodies and mm hmmm. Right,

2330
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 8: I went over like a lead balloon. All right, never mind.

2331
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 8: I thought you might be stats guy, but.

2332
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:18,759
Speaker 2: I know what you do. I've heard about you. Donovan

2333
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 2: writes in Rabel has talked up the value of some

2334
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 2: ill liked players among Patriots fans, Guys like Wallace, Booty Strange.

2335
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 2: For example, Which players from the twenty two to twenty

2336
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 2: four drafts do you think could surprise us under a

2337
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 2: hypothetical better coaching situation? So who can get better than

2338
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 2: what they're currently perceived at because of coaching.

2339
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 8: I'd hope Jalen Polk. I would hope Jalen Polk. I'm

2340
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 8: not ready to say yes, Jalen Polk, but.

2341
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean otherwise, it's guys that have been injured,

2342
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 3: like Strange, Wallace, like they've been able to play. They've

2343
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 3: been hurt a lot.

2344
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 4: I would say Keon White like I feel like ke

2345
01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 4: White with Rabel and Terrell Williams. Yeah, yeah, maybe those

2346
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 4: two guys can. Rabel has talked about it, you know,

2347
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 4: getting his technique a little bit better and getting him

2348
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 4: a little bit more developed. I feel like maybe maybe

2349
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 4: there's another more consistent level. I don't know if there's another.

2350
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 3: That's why with you guys, I threw him out as

2351
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 3: a starter, and I was surprised that we just saw

2352
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 3: it because I don't think of Chase On as a

2353
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 3: starting no defensive lineman. I think him be more of

2354
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 3: as a sub rusher. I think there's going to be

2355
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 3: an opportunity for ke On White to do exactly what.

2356
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, four three end.

2357
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 8: I agree with what you're saying. I guess the way

2358
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 8: I approached it was the thing where we stick the

2359
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 8: veteran experienced guy who knows what he's doing when we

2360
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 8: go out on the depth chart on OTAs and we're

2361
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 8: getting started. But I do agree with you that he

2362
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 8: should have every opportunity to win that job over Chase On.

2363
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 8: I just don't think he'll start off as the guy

2364
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 8: on the as the defensive right.

2365
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 4: But like Chase on coming on the field on third down,

2366
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 4: the bumping inside at that point, because what he does

2367
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 4: best is rushing on the guards. I could be the

2368
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 4: first one to tell you that he's actually really good

2369
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 4: at it from like just a statistical perspective, But the

2370
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 4: edge rushing stuff is just spraw. You know, he blows

2371
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 4: back the quarterback. He's not good against a run out there.

2372
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of work to be.

2373
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,839
Speaker 2: Done Travis and Baltimore. I re listened to the postgame

2374
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 2: show after the end of the season Bill's game, and

2375
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 2: it was seemed the general statement at the time was

2376
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 2: that dropping from one to four was not a huge deal.

2377
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 3: I am guilty of that. I am absolutely guilty too.

2378
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 2: Not me. I am not trying to relitigate the debate

2379
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:28,719
Speaker 2: of whether or not the team should have tried quote

2380
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 2: to lose, because I think every rational person understands there

2381
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 2: isn't anything more the team could have done to actively

2382
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 2: lose that game. I do want to revisit the sentiment

2383
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 2: that dropping from one to four was not a big deal,

2384
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 2: though specifically Mike said that he was happy we could

2385
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 2: debate who the team would rather take it for rather

2386
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 2: than just settle on Travis Hunter. Do you all still

2387
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:52,719
Speaker 2: feel the same or has your thought process changed at all?

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Speaker 2: As it seems we are sitting at the precipice of

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Speaker 2: a no man's land at four with the inability to

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Speaker 2: ensure a blue chip prosper.

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Speaker 8: Well, talk to me after the draft and if Hunter

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Speaker 8: Carter fall then I'd probably go back to not really caring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I care. I was wrong because I think there's

2394
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 3: this They're picking four in a two man draft, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would like to be in this position where I

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Speaker 3: could get one of those two. And I was I'm

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01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 3: not going to sugarcoat it and say I didn't say it.

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01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 3: I did say it. Their email is right. I didn't

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Speaker 3: think it was that big a deal. My reasoning for

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01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 3: saying it wasn't that big a deal is I didn't

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01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 3: think there was a lot of value in one. I

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01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 3: didn't think I don't think people were going to be

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01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 3: clamoring to trade up. And I was talking about at

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01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 3: the time the quarterbacks. I don't think anything has happened

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01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 3: since then to change my mind. Now, what I didn't

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01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 3: know at the time was that really there's only two

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01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 3: guys that everybody are lockstep being worthy of being taken

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01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 3: that high. And that's where I was wrong.

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Speaker 2: Me too, Me too, I was wrong too.

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Speaker 3: You were on it, you thought. I mean, I still

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01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 3: don't think it's like to be all end all, but

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01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 3: I was wrong. There's two guys and you're picking fourth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I guess maybe I The overrated part

2414
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 4: about it from my perspective was like, you probably weren't

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01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 4: going to get anything for the first overall pick in

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01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 4: a draft like this, like the quarterbacks. To Paul's point,

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01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 4: you know a lot of people I think, thought, oh,

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01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 4: we get a king's ransom for the first overall pick,

2419
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 4: like you lost out on that.

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01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:15,839
Speaker 3: I didn't think that that existed.

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01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, I it we were right about the

2422
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 4: fact that they might miss out on Travis Hunter and

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01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 4: Abdul Carter because they won that game, but that trade

2424
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 4: is probably not there. So I think we were both

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01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 4: kind of right in a way.

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01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 8: But if you drafted Travis Hunter, I wouldn't feel as

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01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 8: bad about it. I mean, that's one of the two guys.

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01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 8: I think. Then the debate becomes and this is the

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01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 8: same debate we would have been having if they had

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01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 8: the first overall pick. Is Carter Hunter who do you prefer?

2431
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 8: And then you could say, well, they got Hunter, but

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01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 8: really Carter was the guy that you would have gotten

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01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 8: in one overall and that would have been the difference.

2434
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 8: But I was wrong in the moment. But we'll see,

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01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 8: We'll see how it all comes.

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01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 3: So I like the Paul liked stubbornness. I'm gonna wait

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01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 3: and hold out until until April twenty fourth. You're not

2438
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 3: wrong yet. I like it yet. Paul liked Stubbornness. I

2439
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 3: appreciate it.

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01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 2: Sam and London also criticiz me just catching up with

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01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 2: Tuesday show for the first half hour. Despite Fred's protestations,

2442
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 2: all I can hear is Fred kurs Cerker twenty eighteen

2443
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 2: colon Isaiah win worst case scenario, he's a pro Bowl guard.

2444
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 2: How that work out? Not saying it's gonna happen. Campbell

2445
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 2: is a far superior prospect. But that kind of speculation

2446
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 2: is just a bit silly. Well, are we not supposed

2447
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 2: to speculate about guys going into the NFL? Isn't that

2448
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 2: the show?

2449
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 8: We have a show to do today, So I guess

2450
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 8: we could just.

2451
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 2: Say every guy, I don't know how he's gonna play.

2452
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,839
Speaker 3: I think, but I do think that you were operating

2453
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 3: under a premise that I don't think is right. I

2454
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 3: don't think it's any more correct for Will Campbell than

2455
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 3: it is anybody else. It's basically my point. Forget Isaiah

2456
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 3: win he's a better prospect than Isaiah Winn was. I

2457
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 3: would agree with you on that. But you have this

2458
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 3: notion that if he doesn't work out a tackle, there's

2459
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 3: no risk because he's a great guard. And I don't

2460
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 3: think that this guy is different than anybody else has

2461
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 3: ever come in the league that I don't have a

2462
01:55:58,960 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 3: worry that he.

2463
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 8: Can play at all. Sure, but you're operator, there's no

2464
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 8: worry that anything can.

2465
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 2: Happen with anything. But I'm trying to like minimize risk.

2466
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: You're trying to use the odds. You're trying to make

2467
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 2: your best, guess, right, my best, And that's with him.

2468
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 3: And that's why philosophical opposition to your theory. Okay, so

2469
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 3: then that's all.

2470
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,320
Speaker 2: But there's this to me, there's a safety net there

2471
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 2: with him, you know, if he doesn't play tacko.

2472
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 3: Right, And that's why, like we all, we all chime in,

2473
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 3: we all have our thoughts. Fred's thought is he doesn't

2474
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 3: see them being a possibility that he's not at least

2475
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 3: a good guard. Right, Like someone else looks at it differently,

2476
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 3: I look at it differently. I don't think that there's

2477
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 3: any more of a chance that he's a good guard

2478
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 3: than there is of astroon Genty being a great running back.

2479
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 3: I don't really see I think that.

2480
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 2: So is there any guy that you're sure of of anything?

2481
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 3: No? Absolutely not. But you are you're sure of Will Campbell.

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01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 8: No, that's right, that's that's the philosophical opposition.

2483
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 2: I have a pair. I have a pair, and you

2484
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 2: know parallel jelse.

2485
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 3: But no, you're right, you are sure that he's a

2486
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 3: good guard. I'm not.

2487
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm willing to go out on a limb.

2488
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm more sure that Genty's going to be a productive

2489
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 3: running back down I am that Will Campbell's going to

2490
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 3: be a good guard.

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01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 2: I might say that, but that's not the position. That's

2492
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 2: not a position.

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01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 4: Kind of on the fence.

2494
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 3: M I just don't like because I'll be honest, this

2495
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 3: goes back like ten to fifteen years of this draft stuff,

2496
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 3: and for some reason and Fred Will backed me on

2497
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 3: this offensive linemen are just perceived to be much safer

2498
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 3: than all the other positions like go with the safe

2499
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 3: pick the offensive line. Don't worry about Evan Neil. The

2500
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 3: fact that he's a couple of years into his career,

2501
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 3: can't play and they have to move him to guard.

2502
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 3: Now that's a good thing, right, that's good. Like I

2503
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 3: worry about that stuff, And I think there's a lot

2504
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 3: of people Fred, this is.

2505
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 2: Not a shot, you know, go ahead, take a shot,

2506
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 2: But a lot.

2507
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 3: Of people operate under the Fred theory of he's so good,

2508
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 3: he's safe. Like I'm pretty sure these other guys that

2509
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 3: came out were really well thought of, These offensive linemen

2510
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 3: that didn't pan out in the top ten Robert Gallery.

2511
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick told me, was it like a really he

2512
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 3: was like a generational type prospect. Short arms didn't pan out. Like,

2513
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 3: for some reason, people think offensive line is safe. And

2514
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 3: I guess that's what I'm sort of pushing back on,

2515
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 3: more so than Fred's theory of if he doesn't work

2516
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 3: at tackle, he'll be a good guard.

2517
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 4: But isn't that true with every player in the.

2518
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he said, but for some reason, offensive linemen

2519
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 3: are resolved of this.

2520
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 8: Right, But like, don't you take a wide receiver that's

2521
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 8: really risky?

2522
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 4: But like gent D for example, Yes, there's huge risk,

2523
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 4: like he played at Boise State.

2524
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 3: Like what if he's Curtis Enis or I'm.

2525
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 4: Just saying like he his specialty is that he breaks

2526
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 4: a bunch of tackles. What if he gets to the

2527
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 4: pros and it ain't as easy to break the tackles anymore? Correct,

2528
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 4: Like that's all I'm not saying that's gonna be true.

2529
01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I would worry about. But the only

2530
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 3: bestween me and everybody else, not everybody else you worry

2531
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 3: about is I worry about the tackle not being able

2532
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 3: to block to, not just the running back not being

2533
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 3: able to break tackles. But for some reason we don't

2534
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 3: have a consensus.

2535
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 4: There is there a position that you would jo He'll.

2536
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:23,080
Speaker 8: What is your what is your safe position? Running back?

2537
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 3: That is my safe position?

2538
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 2: Whatever she tells me to do.

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01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 3: Wait, what whatever Beth tells me to do it, that's

2540
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 3: going to keep me out of trouble. Okay, that's my

2541
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 3: safe word? What should I do? Honey?

2542
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 2: All r Yes, we're gonna call it a show. Thanks

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01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:46,919
Speaker 2: everyone for listening watching. We will see you next Tuesday.

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