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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Jo Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm strong and getting and no key, I'm strong and yetty.

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<v Speaker 4>As a helicopter force ingress towards the objective at low level.

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<v Speaker 2>We arrived at Maduro's.

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<v Speaker 4>Compound at one one am Eastern Standard time or two

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<v Speaker 4>to oh one am Caracas local time, and the apprehension

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<v Speaker 4>force descended into Maduro's compound and moved with speed, precision,

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<v Speaker 4>and discipline towards their objective and isolated the area to

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<v Speaker 4>ensure the safety and security of the ground force while

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<v Speaker 4>apprehending the indicted persons.

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<v Speaker 2>So how old is Maduro?

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta think he get woken up from a sound sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a bunch of you know, US super secret

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<v Speaker 1>Special Forces Special Forces dudes with guns and flashlights and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in your face.

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<v Speaker 2>Takes a while to get your bearings.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to have at least one thought that, wow,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a weird dream. He's sixty three. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 5>take me a little while to se I had some

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<v Speaker 5>pice of food last night. What's going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>Right right?

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<v Speaker 5>Well? General Caine there describing the critical kind of uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the climactic moments of the raid and coming

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<v Speaker 5>across Maduro. We skipped past where he helps us understand

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<v Speaker 5>the incredible complexity and sophistication of the operation and for

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<v Speaker 5>that analysis, what a pleasure it is for the first

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<v Speaker 5>time of the year to talk to military analyst Mike

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<v Speaker 5>Lyons about this awesome, awesome demonstration of American capability. Mike,

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<v Speaker 5>how are you, sir? Do you have a good holiday season?

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<v Speaker 6>Guys? Happy New Year? And yes, it's had a great

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<v Speaker 6>highlight season and what a way to start the year

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<v Speaker 6>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really digging your Twitter feed in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night the other night, following your your analysis

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was what happened.

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<v Speaker 6>So thanks, Yeah, you know, just watching this, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>here's to me, it's the biggest issue. For months, I'd

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<v Speaker 6>been talking to former special operators and other people in

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<v Speaker 6>the military trying to figure out what are we doing

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<v Speaker 6>in the Caribbean right Obviously we're projecting power blowing up

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<v Speaker 6>drug boats and the like there, and we all thought

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<v Speaker 6>that this mission was going to be impossible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>for us to go in kinetically take out Maduro, it

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<v Speaker 6>would mean an invasion for US. I kept saying, well,

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<v Speaker 6>nothing's going to happen because the Army's not in the

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<v Speaker 6>game yet. And you know, the only I can think

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<v Speaker 6>of it was like you're sitting on a desert island,

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<v Speaker 6>you got a can without a can opener, and you're

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<v Speaker 6>not going to eat, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 6>the next day the cans open and now you're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be able to eat. I mean, the level of from

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<v Speaker 6>an operational perspective was so complex and just just incredible,

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<v Speaker 6>and from a competency perspective, And I still have the

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<v Speaker 6>scars from the nineteen eighties with you know, Desert One

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<v Speaker 6>and what happened there and the ashes that took place there.

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<v Speaker 6>So I can't reiterate just how incredibly amazing this mission

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<v Speaker 6>was and the complexity of it. One hundred and fifty aircraft,

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<v Speaker 6>no casualties in and out two and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 6>You couldn't write a script that said it would go

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<v Speaker 6>as as you said.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and fifty aircraft.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, help us understand what kind of aircraft and what

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<v Speaker 5>were they doing for we layman, Just give us the

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<v Speaker 5>broad outlines of the complexity of the operation.

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<v Speaker 6>So all the levers of forces that we have in

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<v Speaker 6>power where we're applied here aircraft that took out their

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<v Speaker 6>air defense systems, drones, monitoring surveillance, helicopters, shuttling in the

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<v Speaker 6>seventy fifth Rangers. You know, this was if you had

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<v Speaker 6>to give a visual, it's kind of like Blackhawk down

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<v Speaker 6>back in the nineties, that failure of a mission, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know the fact that we had the Rangers

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<v Speaker 6>in there protecting the strike force, which is the Delta

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<v Speaker 6>guys that go in and extract people like this, this

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<v Speaker 6>is their mission, and we know that they ended up

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<v Speaker 6>practicing this for months before they had a set up

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<v Speaker 6>and they had done this. I'm still surprised that Maduro

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<v Speaker 6>didn't have thirty thousand troops surrounding him. I mean, given

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that you know, he knew the United States

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<v Speaker 6>was going after him. So it still is just incredible

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<v Speaker 6>about those those soldiers getting in. But every single one

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<v Speaker 6>of those aircraft had a mission either bringing troops in,

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<v Speaker 6>gathering surveillance, taking out targets. Just a real high combination.

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<v Speaker 6>And you notice General Kane kept talking about the Joint Force.

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<v Speaker 6>The Joint Force that is the difference between US and

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<v Speaker 6>every other military out there. This is why the Russians

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<v Speaker 6>are wallowing a novacane in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>They can't jointly bring all their forces together to make

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<v Speaker 6>to attack something and move forward with They don't combine

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<v Speaker 6>air power with ground power and ISR. They just go

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<v Speaker 6>one at a time. But in this case, the United

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<v Speaker 6>States is able to take with interagency, take all of

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<v Speaker 6>these levers of power and bring them together and create

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<v Speaker 6>this incredible fist that can take anybody out that we choose.

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<v Speaker 1>To give me an idea of how oh risky this

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<v Speaker 1>would have been, Like if you do it ten times,

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<v Speaker 1>are you successful eight times? Or do would you have

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<v Speaker 1>any guests on?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 6>Well that's why we all sat around and said this

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<v Speaker 6>just wasn't gonna happen. It wasn't even a kind of

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<v Speaker 6>a course of action. And I was talking to guys

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<v Speaker 6>that if the highest levels of jay Sock and you

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<v Speaker 6>know that that had been in that spot, they just

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<v Speaker 6>thought it was going to be just too difficult. The

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<v Speaker 6>element of surprise, just maintaining that that alone was a

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<v Speaker 6>factor that just was incredible. And then the weather played,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the D Day type invasion is what we

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<v Speaker 6>all thought. We thought that, yeah, if they thought they

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<v Speaker 6>would move twenty to twenty five thousand troops or so,

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<v Speaker 6>and because we thought they'd had to get an egress

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<v Speaker 6>point in, but they were able to take out any

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<v Speaker 6>of the air defense systems. So the other thing this does,

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<v Speaker 6>too is that it shows that once again the total

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<v Speaker 6>crap of Russian military equipment, because that's what's been surrounding

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<v Speaker 6>Venezuela when it comes to their air defense system. So

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<v Speaker 6>the essay three hundred you might as well put in

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<v Speaker 6>the museum right now because anybody who has it is

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<v Speaker 6>never going to use it again because the United States

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<v Speaker 6>just blew right by it. So we take out the

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<v Speaker 6>air defense platforms, we take out their systems, and then

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<v Speaker 6>we've shut the power off in the country. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 6>there's no other country in the world that can do this.

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<v Speaker 6>But to say that you wouldn't expect a casualty, or

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<v Speaker 6>you wouldn't expect something to go wrong, very unlikely. In

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<v Speaker 6>this case. Eight out of ten times something else would

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<v Speaker 6>go wrong. You have the expectation commanders expect losses. You

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<v Speaker 6>have then expectation you lose something.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, miraculous success.

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<v Speaker 5>I was struck by General Kin saying we rehearse this

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<v Speaker 5>over and over and over again. Not so that we

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<v Speaker 5>could get it right, but so that it couldn't go wrong. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously fate and God intervened, but that that's that's a

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<v Speaker 5>philosophy that we civilians don't I hadn't heard articulated in

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<v Speaker 5>that way before.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's the result of Desert one and the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that you have to plan. When when I was on

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<v Speaker 6>ACTI duty, we said, with the planning gets slimed, right,

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<v Speaker 6>what's going to happen to us along the way, And

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<v Speaker 6>you have to plan for every one of those contingencies,

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<v Speaker 6>rehearse them so their second nature, so you know exactly

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<v Speaker 6>what to do. It's that your playbook, checklist mentality that

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<v Speaker 6>the military has military trains for that. Within our military

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<v Speaker 6>because of this thing called commander's intents. Right, I'm watching

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<v Speaker 6>people try to say, oh, the soldiers are these sailors,

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<v Speaker 6>they don't know where're going. You know, we're invading Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 6>None of that. Everybody got the mission. Everybody knew what

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<v Speaker 6>the mission was. Get in, get out, extra extra streate

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<v Speaker 6>the guy, get him in and out. Everybody knows commander's intent.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what's another thing that makes our military work

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<v Speaker 6>better than everybody else's.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as you're talking to some of your friends who've

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<v Speaker 1>been there, done that, with regime change and nation building

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, is there some concern that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have boots on the ground trying to keep Venezuela a

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<v Speaker 1>stable place for a certain amount of time.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think so. This is not a rock We

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<v Speaker 6>don't have one hundred thousand troops there. This was not

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<v Speaker 6>an invasion, and it's also not regime change. Their constitution

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<v Speaker 6>has put their vice president, Elsea Rodriguez now in charge,

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<v Speaker 6>and we've given her the message you're either going to

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<v Speaker 6>play ball or not. And if you're not going to

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<v Speaker 6>play ball, you might find yourself in a pair of

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<v Speaker 6>white tennis shoes and a Nike jumpsuits sitting in the

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<v Speaker 6>back of a Special Forces helicopter here if you don't

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<v Speaker 6>play ball. And the thing about it is, this is

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<v Speaker 6>what we want to do. Were taking control, taking control

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<v Speaker 6>of three hundred billion barrels of reserve crude oil in

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<v Speaker 6>our hemisphere, not allowing the Chinese, by the way, the

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<v Speaker 6>Uranians that had already built a drone facility manufacturing drones

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<v Speaker 6>in Venezuela. The Chinese are taking their oil. The Russians

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<v Speaker 6>and the military. This is long overdue to take care

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<v Speaker 6>of this situation right now. I mean, this is, this

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<v Speaker 6>has been so this will be so pivotabal for our

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<v Speaker 6>country and from from a generational perspective, and how we've

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<v Speaker 6>reset the world and reset the economy and the any

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<v Speaker 6>energy market in particular, it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm we're talking to military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike I

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<v Speaker 5>mentioned earlier in the show that you almost have to

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<v Speaker 5>compartmentalize each part of this because you always want to

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<v Speaker 5>leap to the next part, and you kind of did,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a great discussion, and I'm a little mystified

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<v Speaker 5>by this. The upper was amazing, and there's a demonstration

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<v Speaker 5>of American power. I think it will echo around the

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<v Speaker 5>globe and it should. But going forward, can we exercise

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<v Speaker 5>Lever's power effectively enough to get what we need out

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<v Speaker 5>of the Venezuelan regime given the fact that they are

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<v Speaker 5>still what they were and this this Galo's in charge

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<v Speaker 5>now is a hardcore Maduroite socialist.

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<v Speaker 6>Well we're gonna find out. And she controls the military

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<v Speaker 6>right now, and he's basically said we'd come back in

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<v Speaker 6>if we had to, So We're going to let this

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<v Speaker 6>thing stew for a little bit. Again, it's not been

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<v Speaker 6>regime changed right now, it's just different person running the country.

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<v Speaker 6>Right now. I've got confidence that we'll put enough pressure

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<v Speaker 6>on them. We will then start to take over the

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<v Speaker 6>petroleum assets and where they actually pump oil from, and

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<v Speaker 6>we'll do all we'll do all those kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 6>which is what we're trying to do here. We're trying

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<v Speaker 6>to get to I think, so for example, this this

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<v Speaker 6>administration that Trump's was not keen about restoring Machado. That

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<v Speaker 6>was the ind of Jual won the Nobel Peace Prize

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<v Speaker 6>from uh this last year and.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he already won the left election right right.

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<v Speaker 6>But this but real politic on the ground. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>control anything, you know, it's right now, this is hardcore

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<v Speaker 6>human nature. Who controls the military? This is for you know,

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<v Speaker 6>grown ups. This is not for you know, theoretical people

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<v Speaker 6>that are running the government. She's got no legitimacy. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>I hate to say it like that, but she doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>to run the government. So we're gonna give this person,

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<v Speaker 6>Rodriguez a chance because she does control the military and

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<v Speaker 6>the oil. We're gonna cut a deal with her. I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 6>and we'll move this. We'll move this down the road.

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<v Speaker 6>And if we do it, this is again trumped with leverage.

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<v Speaker 6>He is the leverage meister, getting leverage of oil right now.

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<v Speaker 6>The fact that we have this control now over there

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<v Speaker 6>oil puts Canada on notice, China onnoticed. China might not

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<v Speaker 6>be able to invent in made Taiwan now they only

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<v Speaker 6>have twenty five billion barrels in reserve. They might not

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<v Speaker 6>have the energy to do it now. So there's so

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<v Speaker 6>much leverage that was gained by this operation that without

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<v Speaker 6>even a casualty being gone, I just can't talk about

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<v Speaker 6>it so much.

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<v Speaker 5>So if this gal doesn't come around, we snatch her

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<v Speaker 5>up and then the person after her, and before long,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like being the head of isis you know the

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<v Speaker 5>first thing you do when you get the job is

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<v Speaker 5>you're right your will?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what's funny was they got asked the question

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<v Speaker 6>like Marco Ruby got asked the question over the weekend

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<v Speaker 6>about why did you just take him? Why didn't you

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<v Speaker 6>take all his other henchmen. It's like, do you not

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<v Speaker 6>get do you not hear yourself? I mean, that was

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<v Speaker 6>the mission of getting that one person, which is the person.

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<v Speaker 6>So again it's all done legally too, which is really

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<v Speaker 6>why we go in there in the first place, under

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<v Speaker 6>this guise of you know, getting him from legally from

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<v Speaker 6>a drug perspective. No, you can't argue against it.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the.

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<v Speaker 6>Democrats wanted him out five years ago. They just didn't

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<v Speaker 6>have the nerve to do what we did.

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<v Speaker 5>Military analyst Mike Lines, Yeah, Marco gave a fine spank

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<v Speaker 5>into Margaret Brennan.

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<v Speaker 2>We enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you this before we let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I purposely went to New Orleans over vacation just to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the World War II Museum.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume you've been there before.

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<v Speaker 6>I have amazing It's just, you know, the story you know,

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<v Speaker 6>starts in the that real car and you walk through.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the most amazing museum I've ever been to anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely incredible, and.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of presents there, and just the sacrifice is

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<v Speaker 6>made and we just should never forget and we're getting

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<v Speaker 6>further from that generation. But it's just incredible. I would

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<v Speaker 6>buy everybody to go there. My classmate actually is one

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<v Speaker 6>of the directors there, works down there and they hold

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<v Speaker 6>nice events there, but just the historical what they've captured

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<v Speaker 6>there is just amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we'll tell them I'm impressed.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I want to hear more about that from you,

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<v Speaker 5>Jack as well, Mike Liones.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike, thanks so much for the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine the political disaster it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>if this operation hadn't worked well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather holy cow.

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<v Speaker 1>The fallout from that would have been something else, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the geopolitical fallout. Obviously, as you're saying, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big deal that we accomplished what we did, and

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<v Speaker 1>if we hadn't accomplished it, the guy would still be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, we got a lot to talk about. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the text line four one kftcy.

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<v Speaker 6>My resolution for this year, if my plan is to

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<v Speaker 6>have seventy five dollars automatically deducted from my checking account

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<v Speaker 6>every month.

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<v Speaker 1>Without ever going to the gym at all, not even

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<v Speaker 1>the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>You could do that, Yeah, absolutely could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be going to the gym today, having just

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<v Speaker 1>gotten back from vacation yesterday, and I'm sure it will

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<v Speaker 1>be jam packed off people in brand new workout clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I'll be wearing my old workout clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I too will be burning some calories, which is

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<v Speaker 1>badly needed. Again, if I was a state fair hog,

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<v Speaker 1>the vacation went great. Really looking at a ribbon this year,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not. You see, as of yesterday you were

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<v Speaker 1>up six from before Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 5>That's pretty impressive. Yeah, well that's one word for it. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>it'll kill me anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank God for the new stretchy fabrics that the American

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<v Speaker 5>science has developed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that's that's a good way to make lemonade out

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<v Speaker 1>of lemons, right there.

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<v Speaker 5>But we live in a time with stretchy pants, right

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<v Speaker 5>what night? And it's American ingenuity. Oh, speaking of which,

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<v Speaker 5>I came across this. You know this, jack, All social

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<v Speaker 5>issue polling needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>And that's true of this too. But the arch Bridge Institute,

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<v Speaker 5>which I'm judging from the writing style of their chief

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<v Speaker 5>operating officer, is a patriotic outfit at conservative outfit. But

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<v Speaker 5>they did a bunch of polling on the American Dream

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<v Speaker 5>and it came whatever that means. And that's one of

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<v Speaker 5>the great, you know, dishonest journalistic topics of our time

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<v Speaker 5>is they just kind of assume the America can dream

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<v Speaker 5>means whatever they want it to for the premise of

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<v Speaker 5>their story, and then they declare that it's dead or

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<v Speaker 5>people think it's dead or whatever. But then when you

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<v Speaker 5>get down to wait a minute, how do you define

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<v Speaker 5>the American Dream? You think that's a stupid definition. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think that's what I mean by it anyway. They asked, Well,

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<v Speaker 5>first they said about seventy percent of Americans in their

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<v Speaker 5>poll believe they have achieved or are on their way

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<v Speaker 5>to achieving the American Dream. But more significantly, I think

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<v Speaker 5>they asked them, what do you think that phrase means?

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<v Speaker 5>What do you value about life when you talk about

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<v Speaker 5>the American Dream? And freedom of choice? In how to live?

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<v Speaker 5>Was the number one answer, eighty three percent. I want

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<v Speaker 5>to live the life I choose.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good definition. That's a great definition I've always

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<v Speaker 2>gone with.

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<v Speaker 1>If you work hard and follow the rules, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get ahead. Now a lot of people deny that. I

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<v Speaker 1>still believe it's true. Oh you're a fool if you

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<v Speaker 1>deny that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you are definitely part of the times you're

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<v Speaker 5>living in. Sometimes are easier than others, sometimes are harder

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<v Speaker 5>than others. Sometimes your skill set, which is valuable yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>isn't as valuable today. But what is the alternative, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the warm embrace of collectivism?

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<v Speaker 2>Good lord? Yeah, anyway, having a.

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<v Speaker 5>Good family life was also very, very high on the

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<v Speaker 5>list at eighty percent. Only fifteen percent said becoming wealthy,

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<v Speaker 5>whatever that means, is essential to achieving the American dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy to hear that.

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<v Speaker 5>And contrary to the narratives of declining opportunity, just twenty

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<v Speaker 5>three percent of Americans believe they have less opportunity than

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<v Speaker 5>their parents did. And again, this is all, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>debatable and interesting, but they also point, and one of

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<v Speaker 5>the main points of this article is that they saw

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<v Speaker 5>over and over again that Americans, real Americans, not journalists,

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<v Speaker 5>not talking heads on cable TV, really are fond of

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<v Speaker 5>their country. To Americans, view the US as a key

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<v Speaker 5>driver of global progress leadership. They believe this is a

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<v Speaker 5>country of optimism and possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>All those things are true. Don't let anybody talk you

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. Look at the new Joe bringing the sunshine.

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<v Speaker 2>How long will this last? Critics want to know Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's free Maduro, Free him now Portland protesters.

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<v Speaker 1>But it spears to be like three people involved in this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know how widespread that was.

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<v Speaker 5>The hilariously idiotic reaction of the left to the Maduro

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<v Speaker 5>raid coming up next hour stay with Us, not to

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<v Speaker 5>be missed.

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<v Speaker 2>But that reminded me.

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<v Speaker 1>I came across I read a ton of projections, predictions,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff from various people, and it was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to the National Review podcast, which I

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<v Speaker 1>really like. Super smart people, you know, as dialed into

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<v Speaker 1>the news as you can get, way more than me

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<v Speaker 1>and everything like that. Unfortunate for them it was released

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<v Speaker 1>the day we went in and took Maduro. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions was where will Maduro be a year from now?

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<v Speaker 1>And four of the final I know four of the

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<v Speaker 1>five of them said it'll still be in power. So

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<v Speaker 1>That just shows you.

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<v Speaker 2>How surprising this whole thing was.

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<v Speaker 1>People who follow this stuff closely for a living thought

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<v Speaker 1>he'd still be empower in a year.

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<v Speaker 2>That night he got snatched up.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, one of the predictions from a historian, Neil Ferguson,

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<v Speaker 1>who I really really like his twenty twenty six forecast,

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<v Speaker 1>more war, more anti Semitism, less unity.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Oh that sounds great. Maybe keep that to yourself. Yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>Dhoe invited him to the party. That's no fun.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I am looking forward to in twenty six, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is the new CBS. Have you been following their rollout

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<v Speaker 1>of their promos and everything like that, where they're vowing

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<v Speaker 1>all these different things they're going doing. Man, it sounds fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they can. I think they will live up

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<v Speaker 1>to it. With Barry Weiss, they're in charge. That the

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<v Speaker 1>big question is, and the nuts and bolts of it

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<v Speaker 1>is they're gonna try to not lean one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other, and they're gonna try to represent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a point of view in America that gets left out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about that as I was watching the

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<v Speaker 1>news coverage, so I saw the pulling that two thirds

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<v Speaker 1>of Americans think this was a good thing. Well that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't reflected in the news coverage the Venezuela thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Two thirds thought it was a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there ought to be more news stations that reflect

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<v Speaker 1>what the bulk of people think. Not that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go along with the mob because the mobs oft

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<v Speaker 1>and wrong, but it just acknowledged the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>mob thinks this, and if you don't think it's right,

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe lay out some reasons why you think it's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But just to assume everybody agrees with you that it's

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<v Speaker 1>awful so annoying. Yeah, and CBS is gonna try really

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<v Speaker 1>hard not to do that. I saw Jan Crawford, their

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<v Speaker 1>legal correspondent. Actually, I'll bet some of these people at CBS,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to me that are feeling free now. They're

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like, oh wow, I can I can be the

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<v Speaker 1>journalist I want to be in. Jan Crawford, their legal

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<v Speaker 1>analyst forever on CBS, seemed that way to me when

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<v Speaker 1>she was on Face the Nation last Sunday and they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing their year round up, and she said, one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I would like to see is a restoration of

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<v Speaker 1>respect for the Supreme Court. She said, there's this belief

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<v Speaker 1>out there that the Supreme Court is a Trump court

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<v Speaker 1>and out of Whacker and she said it's just not

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<v Speaker 1>true statistically, and I thought, that's fantastic, And I bet

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<v Speaker 1>she's been wanting to say this for years. But she

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<v Speaker 1>would have just gotten killed by their viewership, well and

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<v Speaker 1>her management and her coworker. And because there was no coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you saw it speaking of Barry Weiss. When

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<v Speaker 1>she dared to say stuff even kind of like that

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<v Speaker 1>at the New York Times, the wolves came out for

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<v Speaker 1>and hounded her. Well, the wolves hound people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's weird. It's like an interspecies thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, they hounded her out of the newsroom. And now

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<v Speaker 5>that's not gonna happen. You know, Jan Crawford, I always

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<v Speaker 5>thought of her. It's like, you know, the wink in

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<v Speaker 5>the nod that like back in the day, a couple

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 5>of gay guys might exchange her a couple of potheads

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 5>or whatever, you no reference to pot and their eyes

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<v Speaker 5>meeting all. I always got the idea Jan Crawford was

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<v Speaker 5>like a closeted at least reasonable person, if not conservative,

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<v Speaker 5>because occasionally she'd show signs she'd give you that wink

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<v Speaker 5>you with.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be interested to see if it can work,

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<v Speaker 1>if CBS can do that and get any ratings, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know how much pushback will it be. I've already

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<v Speaker 1>seen a lot online about how awful CBS is and

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:46.160
<v Speaker 1>people won't watch it anymore or not, so they might

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<v Speaker 1>ah shit at I don't know, maybe they're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>some of the Fox audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>I did see a year in roundup of ratings for television,

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and the big networks in primetime are now averaging about

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<v Speaker 1>four million four million people, NBCCBSABC in primetime average is

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<v Speaker 1>about four million, and in the prime demo it's way

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<v Speaker 1>less than that because it's mostly super old people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't figured out other channels yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, unless there are a bunch of guys chuck in

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.719
<v Speaker 5>a football back and forth. I can't imagine watching network

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<v Speaker 5>TV in primetime. I can't remember the last time I did.

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was, like you.

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:26.239
<v Speaker 5>Know, I tuned into the Rock and Roll Hall of

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 5>Fame induction there for about ten minutes like that board

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 5>Henry and I got into Tracker for a while, which

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<v Speaker 5>I think is the number one show on television, at

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<v Speaker 5>least it was for a while last year.

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<v Speaker 1>As a drama, and it was kind of like an

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>old timey experience to watch a show that's on Thursday

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>nights at eight on CBS and.

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.880
<v Speaker 2>There's commercials and stuff like that. Who's still doing this?

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Did you watch it in real time? No? DVR? Absolutely not?

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Who could do that?

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I just I wondered as a father and son of

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 5>having that appointment might be kind of warm and cool.

0:23:58.280 --> 0:23:59.959
<v Speaker 1>And now we watched it whenever we wanted, and we

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Binge watched it the way good American should do it.

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 2>You go back and get all the episodes. I sit corrected.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I didn't know was going to happen. In a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. We are going to the Moon again.

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Just in a couple of weeks, NASA is sending astronauts

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<v Speaker 1>around the Moon, not on the Moon, but around the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon for the first time in over fifty years. Watch

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>window is just a couple of weeks away. So I

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>gotta imagine, with modern equipment, we're going to get some

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>stunning pictures of the Moon here in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple of weeks. Excellent, excellent, and won't that change our lives?

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 5>Then they land and wipe their butts with the Chinese

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 5>flag and show that to Comi's what form.

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's it. Maybe we're saying we're not going to

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>land on the moon, right, but we're gonna do the

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 1>old well wall. We're here land. And then do you said,

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>take the Chinese flag and wipe themselves or or do

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the whole floss.

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Between the legs thing and ye suits with the flag

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>it's a good option.

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 5>Or you leave it in place, and just in place

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<v Speaker 5>of the little star at the middle or whatever's on there,

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 5>you put a picture.

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Of Winnie the Pooh. I mean, how much would that

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 2>piss off?

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Sheesh in pag Another year in pod that reminds me

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>another year in podcast has listening to from the Dispatch.

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>They were talking about undercovered stories and one of the

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>correspondents said, it's going on right now and this was

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the year, and I didn't follow

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 1>it at all. The back and forth between the new

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 1>leader of Japan and President Sia China really hot rhetoric

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>back and forth over Taiwan that the world's completely ignoring

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 1>because it's Christmas season, Trump and various other things going on,

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>but just like could change the world forever. Sort of

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>conversations between Japan and China, and having just been to

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the World War Two Museum, which laid out pretty clearly

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the amazingly violent history between those two countries, not to

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>mention that if China jumps ugly with or if Japan

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>jumps ugly with Japan, in theory, we're supposed to come

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to their aid or be on their side in.

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 5>Theory by treaty, sacred decades old treaty.

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, still wonder if we would. But yeah, so that's

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a hot spot to keep your eye on.

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 2>That's very, very exciting. Now.

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 5>I know you're well acquainted with Japan's horrific history in

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:22.360
<v Speaker 5>World War Two. Do you have any sort of cognitive

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 5>dissonance in picturing them as an ally against China's at

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:27.199
<v Speaker 5>at all?

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Times change, right, times change, that's

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago. Let bygones be bygones. Huh, those

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>are some bygones. And I was at the World War

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Two Museum in a New Orleans, which I will say

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 1>every time it comes up, that is absolutely worth the

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>trip just to do that. It is the best museum

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I've ever been to. I don't know how many people

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>are aware of this, but there wasn't a World War

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>two museum in the country until not that long ago.

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>And when Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg made Saving Private

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Ryan and got on a World War two kick, they

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>were to find out there was no World War Two museum,

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and they got behind making sure we have one. And

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>because they are very well connected, rich powerful people with rich,

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 1>powerful friends, and that movie made such a mark on people,

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>they raised gazillions of dollars to build this museum. And

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 1>also because they're entertainers. I think it isn't like a

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of museums that seem like it was designed by

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>your fifth grade social studies teacher with the ultimate goal

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>of putting you to sleep or taking something interesting and

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>turning it dull. Is made by you know, Hollywood people

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>who understand storytelling and audio.

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Visual and all that sort of stuff.

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So just from an entertainment standpoint, it's so

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 1>damn good.

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Now we'll go to New Orleans to do that.

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 5>While I'm there, May I drink to blackout, vomit in

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 5>the streets, and exhort strange women to show me their breasts.

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 5>While I'm there, there saw a lot of really drunk people. Oh,

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 5>I got to tell this story before we take a break.

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<v Speaker 5>This is my favorite drunk guy story. And I have

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<v Speaker 5>been around a lot of drunk people in my life.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I have spent my time with drug people.

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 5>I've got the street cred for that, no doubt. But

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 5>I had never seen this before.

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>So my oldest son and I are in this bar

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>restaurant watching a band.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Music was so great everywhere, very freaking cool.

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it reminded me like when you go to

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Nashville and if you were a kind of wanna be

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>musician like I am, it makes you want to cut

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>off your hands and burn your instruments.

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, says your instruments. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>At least everybody you come across is like stunningly good.

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Everybody.

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Trombone players were like what I mean, just.

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<v Speaker 2>All over the place.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and what if what if you were that good

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 5>and got to New Orleans or Nashville and realized, oh

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.719
<v Speaker 5>my god, there's seven hundred names me within three square blocks.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, Hey, there's another guy in the corner plays just

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>as good as you with all the hat out in

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>front of it. Anyway, So I go into the restroom

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and we're standing at the urnals.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies, I don't know if you know how urinals work.

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>We got a bathroom system in there where it's just

0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it's up against the wall and you get to stand

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>there and the wall is right there in front of you,

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>which has never really been a problem for me. But

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>there is this drunk guy in the stall next to me,

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and he kept he was going to unzip his pants

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to do his thing, and he kept bending forward and

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>hitting his.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Head on the wall.

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, he'd he hit his head and the I

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, damn it, ah, and then he and then

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>he goes back to doing his pants and he bends

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>over hit his head again. Dam I mean, he was cussing,

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and I wish I shouldn't do this on the podcast

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>so I could use the word because it was so

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>flipping funny. And he did it no less than six times.

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Were you his head on the matter? It was cement, yes,

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>And he was so mad and he had the anger

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of like somebody was doing it to him. He just

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't understand where these blows to the head were coming from.

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, solve it, sove it.

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to tell him, dude, you gotta quit bending over.

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>There's a wall here, and he ghosts it. Look, it's fine.

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I want it's fine, it's fine.

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 5>I feel like this is going to continue until you

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 5>become aware of the fact, until you've got a brain bleed, going,

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, he was hammered. It wasn't that late.

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how his day turned out. I should have

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>followed him around. I'm not sure, but there are a

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of people like that in New Orleans. That whole

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>bourbon street scene. That was not my thing, even when

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I was in my twenties. Just that that thing, just

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, cheap, crappy drinks and loudness.

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I agree. Is that for people who don't

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 5>drink much? I don't just want to take it completely

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 5>wildly over the top and then go back to their

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 5>fairly sober lives or what.

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I was there for We were walking down there on

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve and I was looking around thinking, how

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>is this entertaining for anyone?

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>We were walking back to our hotel.

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, as a drunk. I've always said, I know I

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 5>was a drunk and that was not my scene. I

0:30:58.320 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 5>want to tell him.

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you go like three blocks over that way,

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.719
<v Speaker 1>there are bars with amazing music in it, and uh

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, really cool things happening, but or or

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you can stand here with a bunch of twenty somethings

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and get out of your mind on really crappy, cheap

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>plastic cup drinks so you throw up and fall over.

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>The police presence though, the security, I don't get that.

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I haven't come across.

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to have that conversation at some point, because

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's such a waste of tax payer money.

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>There were squad cars with lights on evere hundred feet

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>throughout the city, National Guard all over the place, cops

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and horses.

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>And what does everybody say to me? What did everybody

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>say to me? Every single person?

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, because of the terrorist attack last year, and what

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and so you think there's going to be this wouldn't

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>again this year. That has never happened, Not one time

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>has that ever happened.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's never happened. It's not the way it works.

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I've you after nine to eleven, I've never seen security

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like they had in New Orleans on New Year's Eve

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>because of the terrorist attack last.

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Year, which makes no sense whatsoever.

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you couldn't walk ten feet without a guy

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>with like a full on military rifle. Wow, And what

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>do we pay for that. Anyhow, that's a different topic.

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>We got a lot more news to get to the

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to our mind, ridiculous reaction of the left to taking Maduro,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what their argument is.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Among other things. On the way, stay here, Armstrong, Hey, Billy.

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 7>Joel surprising fans who came to see a Billy Joel

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 7>tribute band South Florida.

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 2>The piano man himself joined the.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 7>Group for his first performance since he revealed his brain

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 7>disorder diagnosis last year. Joel sank two of his hits,

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 7>we didn't Start the Fire and Big Shot.

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Good for Billy. Interesting choice was that we didn't start

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the fire? Was that just to show that his brains

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>still work? Because the lyrics would be hard to remember?

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>On that say, he forgot a couple of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>this singer of the tribute band helped him out.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, what he must have been, you know, in

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<v Speaker 5>the town and saw Billy Joel tribute.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta check that out. That'd be hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>How crazy would you go if you want to a

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<v Speaker 1>tribute band in the actual act?

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<v Speaker 2>Walked out?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, nuts, So hey, I at least want

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<v Speaker 5>to start this. I'll bet you did not hear about

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<v Speaker 5>this over the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not have.

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<v Speaker 5>Unless I was alerted to it by our good friend

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<v Speaker 5>Tim Sanderfer of the Goldwater Institute. There was an enormously

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<v Speaker 5>important like Super Bowl of liberty win at the Eighth

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<v Speaker 5>Circuit Court of Appeals. They ruled in favor of a

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<v Speaker 5>group of school employees who argued that their free speech

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<v Speaker 5>rights were violated when they were forced to endure a

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<v Speaker 5>DEI training session that declared the usual stuff calling the

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<v Speaker 5>police on black people and treating kids of color as adults,

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<v Speaker 5>or forms of white supremacy, blah blah blah. Goldwater Institute

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<v Speaker 5>filed a Friends of the Court brief, Friend of the

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<v Speaker 5>Court brief.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a typical story.

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<v Speaker 5>And a lot of you sounds familiar to school officials

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<v Speaker 5>in Springfield, Missouri, ordered employees to attend meetings where they

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<v Speaker 5>are taught you know your DEI crap that America's legal, economic, social,

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<v Speaker 5>and cultural institutions were saturated with quote covert white supremacy

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<v Speaker 5>manifested in everything from claiming reverse racism to color blindness.

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<v Speaker 5>White people are inherently privileged. They're morally obligated not only

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<v Speaker 5>to acknowledge your privilege, but to renounce that privilege and

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<v Speaker 5>to shut up and not talk if black people are

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<v Speaker 5>in the room or whatever. Told their views were confused

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<v Speaker 5>and wrong, not allowed to object. They were told their

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<v Speaker 5>disagreement was having a conversation about football and bringing up baseball,

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<v Speaker 5>whatever that means. But they're forced to shut up, stay silent.

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<v Speaker 5>And then they were all given a test and if

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<v Speaker 5>you did not have the correct answers, it would damage

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<v Speaker 5>your employment. Now, the trial judge in the original case

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<v Speaker 5>threw it out, said it was trivial.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you thing imagine that?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 5>I abhorror political violence. But the things I would like

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<v Speaker 5>to do to that trial judge, well, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 5>give him a stern talking to. But anyway, the Eighth

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<v Speaker 5>Supreme I'm sorry, the Eighth Circuit Court said no, that's

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<v Speaker 5>wildly unconstitutional. Not only is it compelled speech, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>the government telling people what to think and that they

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<v Speaker 5>have to think it or the government will punish them

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<v Speaker 5>as school employees. And so they absolutely hammered, hammered that law.

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<v Speaker 5>This could echo throughout the land.

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<v Speaker 3>Folks, this is a gigantic This is a Gettysburg size

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<v Speaker 3>victory for liberty, and it passed mostly unnoticed because I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of your media outlets are a little

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<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable reporting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus, it happened during that period where we just don't

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to hardly anything true enough, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weird to decide there's a couple weeks during the

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<v Speaker 1>air no matter how big the story is, we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Just going to ignore it. Well, I enjoyed the hell

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<v Speaker 5>out of it, so I get why it happens. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it'd breakthrough somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but again, this was absolutely covered up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is huge.

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<v Speaker 1>The reverse of that is so for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks we'll ignore giant stories. Then you go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the world where you cover stupid crap that means nothing

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<v Speaker 1>as if it's a giant story, right, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>I wish they were popping into my mind right now

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<v Speaker 5>because I thought of a couple of them over the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, anybody bring up X to you during vacation.

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<v Speaker 5>No they didn't, And everybody was yelling at each other

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<v Speaker 5>for a week about it, like a month ago, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty