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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Jo Getty.

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Speaker 3: I'm strong and getting and no key, I'm strong and yetty.

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Speaker 4: As a helicopter force ingress towards the objective at low level.

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Speaker 2: We arrived at Maduro's.

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Speaker 4: Compound at one one am Eastern Standard time or two

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Speaker 4: to oh one am Caracas local time, and the apprehension

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Speaker 4: force descended into Maduro's compound and moved with speed, precision,

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Speaker 4: and discipline towards their objective and isolated the area to

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Speaker 4: ensure the safety and security of the ground force while

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Speaker 4: apprehending the indicted persons.

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Speaker 2: So how old is Maduro?

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Speaker 1: I gotta think he get woken up from a sound sleep,

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Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of you know, US super secret

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Speaker 1: Special Forces Special Forces dudes with guns and flashlights and

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Speaker 1: stuff in your face.

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Speaker 2: Takes a while to get your bearings.

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Speaker 5: You got to have at least one thought that, wow,

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Speaker 5: this is a weird dream. He's sixty three. Yeah, it

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Speaker 5: take me a little while to se I had some

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Speaker 5: pice of food last night. What's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Right right?

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Speaker 5: Well? General Caine there describing the critical kind of uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, the climactic moments of the raid and coming

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Speaker 5: across Maduro. We skipped past where he helps us understand

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Speaker 5: the incredible complexity and sophistication of the operation and for

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Speaker 5: that analysis, what a pleasure it is for the first

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Speaker 5: time of the year to talk to military analyst Mike

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Speaker 5: Lyons about this awesome, awesome demonstration of American capability. Mike,

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Speaker 5: how are you, sir? Do you have a good holiday season?

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Speaker 6: Guys? Happy New Year? And yes, it's had a great

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Speaker 6: highlight season and what a way to start the year

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Speaker 6: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was really digging your Twitter feed in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the night the other night, following your your analysis

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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 2: It was what happened.

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Speaker 6: So thanks, Yeah, you know, just watching this, you know,

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Speaker 6: here's to me, it's the biggest issue. For months, I'd

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Speaker 6: been talking to former special operators and other people in

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Speaker 6: in the Caribbean right Obviously we're projecting power blowing up

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Speaker 6: drug boats and the like there, and we all thought

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Speaker 6: that this mission was going to be impossible. I mean,

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Speaker 6: for us to go in kinetically take out Maduro, it

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Speaker 6: would mean an invasion for US. I kept saying, well,

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Speaker 6: nothing's going to happen because the Army's not in the

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Speaker 6: game yet. And you know, the only I can think

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Speaker 6: of it was like you're sitting on a desert island,

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Speaker 6: you got a can without a can opener, and you're

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Speaker 6: not going to eat, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: the next day the cans open and now you're gonna

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Speaker 6: be able to eat. I mean, the level of from

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Speaker 6: an operational perspective was so complex and just just incredible,

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Speaker 6: and from a competency perspective, And I still have the

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Speaker 6: scars from the nineteen eighties with you know, Desert One

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Speaker 6: So I can't reiterate just how incredibly amazing this mission

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Speaker 6: was and the complexity of it. One hundred and fifty aircraft,

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Speaker 6: You couldn't write a script that said it would go

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Speaker 6: as as you said.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty aircraft.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, help us understand what kind of aircraft and what

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Speaker 5: broad outlines of the complexity of the operation.

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Speaker 6: So all the levers of forces that we have in

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Speaker 6: seventy fifth Rangers. You know, this was if you had

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Speaker 6: back in the nineties, that failure of a mission, unfortunately.

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Speaker 6: But you know the fact that we had the Rangers

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Speaker 6: guys that go in and extract people like this, this

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Speaker 6: is their mission, and we know that they ended up

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Speaker 6: practicing this for months before they had a set up

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Speaker 6: about those those soldiers getting in. But every single one

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Speaker 6: And you notice General Kane kept talking about the Joint Force.

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Speaker 6: The Joint Force that is the difference between US and

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: They can't jointly bring all their forces together to make

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Speaker 6: this incredible fist that can take anybody out that we choose.

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Speaker 1: To give me an idea of how oh risky this

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Speaker 1: are you successful eight times? Or do would you have

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 6: Well that's why we all sat around and said this

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Speaker 6: I mean, the D Day type invasion is what we

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Speaker 6: the essay three hundred you might as well put in

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Speaker 6: we've shut the power off in the country. I mean again,

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Speaker 6: But to say that you wouldn't expect a casualty, or

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, miraculous success.

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Speaker 5: I was struck by General Kin saying we rehearse this

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Speaker 5: obviously fate and God intervened, but that that's that's a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the result of Desert one and the fact

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Speaker 6: you have to plan for every one of those contingencies,

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Speaker 6: rehearse them so their second nature, so you know exactly

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Speaker 6: because of this thing called commander's intents. Right, I'm watching

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Speaker 6: None of that. Everybody got the mission. Everybody knew what

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Speaker 6: And that's what's another thing that makes our military work

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Speaker 1: Well, as you're talking to some of your friends who've

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Speaker 1: been there, done that, with regime change and nation building

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Speaker 6: I don't think so. This is not a rock We

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Speaker 6: an invasion, and it's also not regime change. Their constitution

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Speaker 6: play ball. And the thing about it is, this is

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Speaker 6: Uranians that had already built a drone facility manufacturing drones

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Speaker 6: and the military. This is long overdue to take care

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Speaker 5: I'm we're talking to military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike I

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Speaker 6: Well we're gonna find out. And she controls the military

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Speaker 6: Right now. I've got confidence that we'll put enough pressure

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Speaker 2: Was he already won the left election right right.

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Speaker 6: But this but real politic on the ground. She doesn't

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Speaker 6: control anything, you know, it's right now, this is hardcore

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Speaker 6: grown ups. This is not for you know, theoretical people

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Speaker 6: I hate to say it like that, but she doesn't

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine the political disaster it would have been

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Speaker 2: I'd rather holy cow.

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Speaker 1: The fallout from that would have been something else, and

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Speaker 5: Thank God for the new stretchy fabrics that the American

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Speaker 5: But we live in a time with stretchy pants, right

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Speaker 5: what night? And it's American ingenuity. Oh, speaking of which,

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Speaker 5: I came across this. You know this, jack, All social

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Speaker 5: And that's true of this too. But the arch Bridge Institute,

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good definition. That's a great definition I've always

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Speaker 1: If you work hard and follow the rules, you can

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Speaker 5: I mean you are definitely part of the times you're

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Speaker 5: Good family life was also very, very high on the

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Speaker 5: And contrary to the narratives of declining opportunity, just twenty

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Speaker 2: All those things are true. Don't let anybody talk you

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Speaker 2: How long will this last? Critics want to know Armstrong

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's free Maduro, Free him now Portland protesters.

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Speaker 1: But it spears to be like three people involved in this.

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Speaker 5: The hilariously idiotic reaction of the left to the Maduro

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Speaker 2: But that reminded me.

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Speaker 1: That just shows you.

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Speaker 2: How surprising this whole thing was.

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Speaker 1: People who follow this stuff closely for a living thought

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Speaker 2: That night he got snatched up.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, one of the predictions from a historian, Neil Ferguson,

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Speaker 1: who I really really like his twenty twenty six forecast,

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Speaker 1: more war, more anti Semitism, less unity.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Oh that sounds great. Maybe keep that to yourself. Yeah, wow,

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Speaker 2: Dhoe invited him to the party. That's no fun.

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Speaker 1: One thing I am looking forward to in twenty six, though,

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Speaker 1: I hope they can. I think they will live up

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Speaker 1: to it. With Barry Weiss, they're in charge. That the

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that as I was watching the

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Speaker 2: Two thirds thought it was a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, there ought to be more news stations that reflect

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Speaker 1: what the bulk of people think. Not that you have

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Speaker 1: legal correspondent. Actually, I'll bet some of these people at CBS,

443
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Speaker 1: it seems to me that are feeling free now. They're

444
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Speaker 1: feeling like, oh wow, I can I can be the

445
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: journalist I want to be in. Jan Crawford, their legal

446
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: analyst forever on CBS, seemed that way to me when

447
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: she was on Face the Nation last Sunday and they

448
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: were doing their year round up, and she said, one

449
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: thing I would like to see is a restoration of

450
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Speaker 1: respect for the Supreme Court. She said, there's this belief

451
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: out there that the Supreme Court is a Trump court

452
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: and out of Whacker and she said it's just not

453
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Speaker 1: true statistically, and I thought, that's fantastic, And I bet

454
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Speaker 1: she's been wanting to say this for years. But she

455
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: would have just gotten killed by their viewership, well and

456
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Speaker 1: her management and her coworker. And because there was no coverage.

457
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Speaker 1: You know, you saw it speaking of Barry Weiss. When

458
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Speaker 1: she dared to say stuff even kind of like that

459
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Speaker 1: at the New York Times, the wolves came out for

460
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Speaker 1: and hounded her. Well, the wolves hound people.

461
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: That's weird. It's like an interspecies thing.

462
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Speaker 5: Anyway, they hounded her out of the newsroom. And now

463
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Speaker 5: that's not gonna happen. You know, Jan Crawford, I always

464
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 5: thought of her. It's like, you know, the wink in

465
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Speaker 5: the nod that like back in the day, a couple

466
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 5: of gay guys might exchange her a couple of potheads

467
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Speaker 5: or whatever, you no reference to pot and their eyes

468
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Speaker 5: meeting all. I always got the idea Jan Crawford was

469
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Speaker 5: like a closeted at least reasonable person, if not conservative,

470
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Speaker 5: because occasionally she'd show signs she'd give you that wink

471
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Speaker 5: you with.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be interested to see if it can work,

473
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Speaker 1: if CBS can do that and get any ratings, and

474
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Speaker 1: you know how much pushback will it be. I've already

475
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Speaker 1: seen a lot online about how awful CBS is and

476
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Speaker 1: people won't watch it anymore or not, so they might

477
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Speaker 1: ah shit at I don't know, maybe they're gonna get

478
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Speaker 1: some of the Fox audience.

479
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Speaker 2: Who knows.

480
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Speaker 1: I did see a year in roundup of ratings for television,

481
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Speaker 1: and the big networks in primetime are now averaging about

482
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Speaker 1: four million four million people, NBCCBSABC in primetime average is

483
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: about four million, and in the prime demo it's way

484
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: less than that because it's mostly super old people who.

485
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Speaker 2: Haven't figured out other channels yet.

486
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Speaker 5: Well, unless there are a bunch of guys chuck in

487
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 5: a football back and forth. I can't imagine watching network

488
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Speaker 5: TV in primetime. I can't remember the last time I did.

489
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Speaker 2: Maybe it was, like you.

490
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 5: Know, I tuned into the Rock and Roll Hall of

491
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Speaker 5: Fame induction there for about ten minutes like that board

492
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 5: Henry and I got into Tracker for a while, which

493
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Speaker 5: I think is the number one show on television, at

494
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Speaker 5: least it was for a while last year.

495
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Speaker 1: As a drama, and it was kind of like an

496
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Speaker 1: old timey experience to watch a show that's on Thursday

497
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Speaker 1: nights at eight on CBS and.

498
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Speaker 2: There's commercials and stuff like that. Who's still doing this?

499
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: Did you watch it in real time? No? DVR? Absolutely not?

500
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: Who could do that?

501
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: Well?

502
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Speaker 5: I just I wondered as a father and son of

503
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 5: having that appointment might be kind of warm and cool.

504
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Speaker 1: And now we watched it whenever we wanted, and we

505
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: Binge watched it the way good American should do it.

506
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: You go back and get all the episodes. I sit corrected.

507
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: Something I didn't know was going to happen. In a

508
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We are going to the Moon again.

509
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: Just in a couple of weeks, NASA is sending astronauts

510
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: around the Moon, not on the Moon, but around the

511
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Speaker 1: Moon for the first time in over fifty years. Watch

512
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: window is just a couple of weeks away. So I

513
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: gotta imagine, with modern equipment, we're going to get some

514
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: stunning pictures of the Moon here in a.

515
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Speaker 2: Couple of weeks. Excellent, excellent, and won't that change our lives?

516
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Speaker 5: Then they land and wipe their butts with the Chinese

517
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 5: flag and show that to Comi's what form.

518
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. Maybe we're saying we're not going to

519
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: land on the moon, right, but we're gonna do the

520
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: old well wall. We're here land. And then do you said,

521
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: take the Chinese flag and wipe themselves or or do

522
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: the whole floss.

523
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Speaker 2: Between the legs thing and ye suits with the flag

524
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Speaker 2: it's a good option.

525
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 5: Or you leave it in place, and just in place

526
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 5: of the little star at the middle or whatever's on there,

527
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 5: you put a picture.

528
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: Of Winnie the Pooh. I mean, how much would that

529
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: piss off?

530
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: Sheesh in pag Another year in pod that reminds me

531
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Speaker 1: another year in podcast has listening to from the Dispatch.

532
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: They were talking about undercovered stories and one of the

533
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: correspondents said, it's going on right now and this was

534
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, and I didn't follow

535
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: it at all. The back and forth between the new

536
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: leader of Japan and President Sia China really hot rhetoric

537
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: back and forth over Taiwan that the world's completely ignoring

538
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: because it's Christmas season, Trump and various other things going on,

539
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: but just like could change the world forever. Sort of

540
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: conversations between Japan and China, and having just been to

541
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Speaker 1: the World War Two Museum, which laid out pretty clearly

542
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Speaker 1: the amazingly violent history between those two countries, not to

543
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: mention that if China jumps ugly with or if Japan

544
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: jumps ugly with Japan, in theory, we're supposed to come

545
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: to their aid or be on their side in.

546
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 5: Theory by treaty, sacred decades old treaty.

547
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, still wonder if we would. But yeah, so that's

548
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: a hot spot to keep your eye on.

549
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: That's very, very exciting. Now.

550
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 5: I know you're well acquainted with Japan's horrific history in

551
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 5: World War Two. Do you have any sort of cognitive

552
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 5: dissonance in picturing them as an ally against China's at

553
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 5: at all?

554
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Times change, right, times change, that's

555
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Let bygones be bygones. Huh, those

556
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: are some bygones. And I was at the World War

557
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Speaker 1: Two Museum in a New Orleans, which I will say

558
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: every time it comes up, that is absolutely worth the

559
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: trip just to do that. It is the best museum

560
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: I've ever been to. I don't know how many people

561
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: are aware of this, but there wasn't a World War

562
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: two museum in the country until not that long ago.

563
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: And when Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg made Saving Private

564
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: Ryan and got on a World War two kick, they

565
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: were to find out there was no World War Two museum,

566
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: and they got behind making sure we have one. And

567
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: because they are very well connected, rich powerful people with rich,

568
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: powerful friends, and that movie made such a mark on people,

569
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: they raised gazillions of dollars to build this museum. And

570
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: also because they're entertainers. I think it isn't like a

571
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: lot of museums that seem like it was designed by

572
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: your fifth grade social studies teacher with the ultimate goal

573
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: of putting you to sleep or taking something interesting and

574
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: turning it dull. Is made by you know, Hollywood people

575
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: who understand storytelling and audio.

576
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: Visual and all that sort of stuff.

577
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So just from an entertainment standpoint, it's so

578
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: damn good.

579
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: Now we'll go to New Orleans to do that.

580
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: While I'm there, May I drink to blackout, vomit in

581
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 5: the streets, and exhort strange women to show me their breasts.

582
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 5: While I'm there, there saw a lot of really drunk people. Oh,

583
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 5: I got to tell this story before we take a break.

584
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 5: This is my favorite drunk guy story. And I have

585
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 5: been around a lot of drunk people in my life.

586
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I have spent my time with drug people.

587
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 5: I've got the street cred for that, no doubt. But

588
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 5: I had never seen this before.

589
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: So my oldest son and I are in this bar

590
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: restaurant watching a band.

591
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: Music was so great everywhere, very freaking cool.

592
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it reminded me like when you go to

593
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: Nashville and if you were a kind of wanna be

594
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: musician like I am, it makes you want to cut

595
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: off your hands and burn your instruments.

596
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: Yes, says your instruments. Yes.

597
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: At least everybody you come across is like stunningly good.

598
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: Everybody.

599
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: Trombone players were like what I mean, just.

600
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: All over the place.

601
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: Well, and what if what if you were that good

602
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 5: and got to New Orleans or Nashville and realized, oh

603
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 5: my god, there's seven hundred names me within three square blocks.

604
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: Right, Hey, there's another guy in the corner plays just

605
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: as good as you with all the hat out in

606
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: front of it. Anyway, So I go into the restroom

607
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: and we're standing at the urnals.

608
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Ladies, I don't know if you know how urinals work.

609
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: We got a bathroom system in there where it's just

610
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: it's up against the wall and you get to stand

611
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: there and the wall is right there in front of you,

612
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: which has never really been a problem for me. But

613
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: there is this drunk guy in the stall next to me,

614
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: and he kept he was going to unzip his pants

615
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: to do his thing, and he kept bending forward and

616
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: hitting his.

617
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: Head on the wall.

618
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, he'd he hit his head and the I

619
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: was like, damn it, ah, and then he and then

620
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: he goes back to doing his pants and he bends

621
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: over hit his head again. Dam I mean, he was cussing,

622
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: and I wish I shouldn't do this on the podcast

623
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: so I could use the word because it was so

624
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: flipping funny. And he did it no less than six times.

625
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: Were you his head on the matter? It was cement, yes,

626
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: And he was so mad and he had the anger

627
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: of like somebody was doing it to him. He just

628
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: didn't understand where these blows to the head were coming from.

629
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: Right, solve it, sove it.

630
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell him, dude, you gotta quit bending over.

631
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: There's a wall here, and he ghosts it. Look, it's fine.

632
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: I want it's fine, it's fine.

633
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: I feel like this is going to continue until you

634
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 5: become aware of the fact, until you've got a brain bleed, going,

635
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: oh my god, he was hammered. It wasn't that late.

636
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: I wonder how his day turned out. I should have

637
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: followed him around. I'm not sure, but there are a

638
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: lot of people like that in New Orleans. That whole

639
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: bourbon street scene. That was not my thing, even when

640
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: I was in my twenties. Just that that thing, just

641
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: you know whatever, cheap, crappy drinks and loudness.

642
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I agree. Is that for people who don't

643
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: drink much? I don't just want to take it completely

644
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 5: wildly over the top and then go back to their

645
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 5: fairly sober lives or what.

646
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

647
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: I was there for We were walking down there on

648
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve and I was looking around thinking, how

649
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: is this entertaining for anyone?

650
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: We were walking back to our hotel.

651
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, as a drunk. I've always said, I know I

652
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 5: was a drunk and that was not my scene. I

653
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 5: want to tell him.

654
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: You know, if you go like three blocks over that way,

655
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: there are bars with amazing music in it, and uh

656
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: and you know, really cool things happening, but or or

657
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: you can stand here with a bunch of twenty somethings

658
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: and get out of your mind on really crappy, cheap

659
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: plastic cup drinks so you throw up and fall over.

660
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: Man.

661
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: The police presence though, the security, I don't get that.

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Speaker 2: I haven't come across.

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Speaker 1: I want to have that conversation at some point, because

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Speaker 1: I just think it's such a waste of tax payer money.

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Speaker 1: There were squad cars with lights on evere hundred feet

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Speaker 1: throughout the city, National Guard all over the place, cops

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Speaker 1: and horses.

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Speaker 2: And what does everybody say to me? What did everybody

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Speaker 2: say to me? Every single person?

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Speaker 1: Well, because of the terrorist attack last year, and what

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Speaker 1: and so you think there's going to be this wouldn't

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Speaker 1: again this year. That has never happened, Not one time

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Speaker 1: has that ever happened.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's never happened. It's not the way it works.

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Speaker 1: I've you after nine to eleven, I've never seen security

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Speaker 1: like they had in New Orleans on New Year's Eve

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Speaker 1: because of the terrorist attack last.

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Speaker 2: Year, which makes no sense whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't walk ten feet without a guy

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Speaker 1: with like a full on military rifle. Wow, And what

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Speaker 1: do we pay for that. Anyhow, that's a different topic.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot more news to get to the

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Speaker 1: to our mind, ridiculous reaction of the left to taking Maduro,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what their argument is.

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Speaker 2: Among other things. On the way, stay here, Armstrong, Hey, Billy.

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Speaker 7: Joel surprising fans who came to see a Billy Joel

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Speaker 7: tribute band South Florida.

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Speaker 2: The piano man himself joined the.

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Speaker 7: Group for his first performance since he revealed his brain

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Speaker 7: disorder diagnosis last year. Joel sank two of his hits,

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Speaker 7: we didn't Start the Fire and Big Shot.

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Speaker 1: Good for Billy. Interesting choice was that we didn't start

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Speaker 1: the fire? Was that just to show that his brains

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Speaker 1: still work? Because the lyrics would be hard to remember?

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Speaker 1: On that say, he forgot a couple of them, and

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Speaker 1: this singer of the tribute band helped him out.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, what he must have been, you know, in

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Speaker 5: the town and saw Billy Joel tribute.

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Speaker 2: I gotta check that out. That'd be hilarious.

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Speaker 1: How crazy would you go if you want to a

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Speaker 1: tribute band in the actual act?

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Speaker 2: Walked out?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, nuts, So hey, I at least want

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Speaker 5: to start this. I'll bet you did not hear about

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Speaker 5: this over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: I would not have.

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Speaker 5: Unless I was alerted to it by our good friend

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Speaker 5: Tim Sanderfer of the Goldwater Institute. There was an enormously

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Speaker 5: important like Super Bowl of liberty win at the Eighth

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Speaker 5: Circuit Court of Appeals. They ruled in favor of a

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Speaker 5: group of school employees who argued that their free speech

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Speaker 5: rights were violated when they were forced to endure a

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Speaker 5: DEI training session that declared the usual stuff calling the

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Speaker 5: police on black people and treating kids of color as adults,

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Speaker 5: or forms of white supremacy, blah blah blah. Goldwater Institute

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Speaker 5: filed a Friends of the Court brief, Friend of the

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Speaker 5: Court brief.

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Speaker 2: It's a typical story.

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Speaker 5: And a lot of you sounds familiar to school officials

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Speaker 5: in Springfield, Missouri, ordered employees to attend meetings where they

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Speaker 5: are taught you know your DEI crap that America's legal, economic, social,

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Speaker 5: and cultural institutions were saturated with quote covert white supremacy

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Speaker 5: manifested in everything from claiming reverse racism to color blindness.

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Speaker 5: White people are inherently privileged. They're morally obligated not only

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Speaker 5: to acknowledge your privilege, but to renounce that privilege and

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Speaker 5: to shut up and not talk if black people are

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Speaker 5: in the room or whatever. Told their views were confused

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Speaker 5: and wrong, not allowed to object. They were told their

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Speaker 5: disagreement was having a conversation about football and bringing up baseball,

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Speaker 5: whatever that means. But they're forced to shut up, stay silent.

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Speaker 5: And then they were all given a test and if

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Speaker 5: you did not have the correct answers, it would damage

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Speaker 5: your employment. Now, the trial judge in the original case

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Speaker 5: threw it out, said it was trivial.

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Speaker 2: Can you thing imagine that?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 5: I abhorror political violence. But the things I would like

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Speaker 5: to do to that trial judge, well, I'd like to

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Speaker 5: give him a stern talking to. But anyway, the Eighth

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Speaker 5: Supreme I'm sorry, the Eighth Circuit Court said no, that's

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Speaker 5: wildly unconstitutional. Not only is it compelled speech, but it's

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Speaker 5: the government telling people what to think and that they

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Speaker 5: have to think it or the government will punish them

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Speaker 5: as school employees. And so they absolutely hammered, hammered that law.

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Speaker 5: This could echo throughout the land.

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Speaker 3: Folks, this is a gigantic This is a Gettysburg size

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Speaker 3: victory for liberty, and it passed mostly unnoticed because I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of your media outlets are a little

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Speaker 3: uncomfortable reporting it.

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Speaker 1: Plus, it happened during that period where we just don't

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Speaker 1: pay attention to hardly anything true enough, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of weird to decide there's a couple weeks during the

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Speaker 1: air no matter how big the story is, we're.

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Speaker 5: Just going to ignore it. Well, I enjoyed the hell

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Speaker 5: out of it, so I get why it happens. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think it'd breakthrough somehow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but again, this was absolutely covered up.

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Speaker 2: This is huge.

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Speaker 1: The reverse of that is so for a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks we'll ignore giant stories. Then you go back to

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Speaker 1: the world where you cover stupid crap that means nothing

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Speaker 1: as if it's a giant story, right, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 5: I wish they were popping into my mind right now

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Speaker 5: because I thought of a couple of them over the break.

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Speaker 2: Hey, anybody bring up X to you during vacation.

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Speaker 5: No they didn't, And everybody was yelling at each other

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Speaker 5: for a week about it, like a month ago, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty