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Speaker 1: welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 1: One of our favorite guests, Mr Lobo, host of a

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Speaker 1: late night movie program called Cinema Insomnia, which is a

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Speaker 1: cult sensation for a number of years. Just those years

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Speaker 1: just keep adding up. He is the MC for film

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Speaker 1: festivals like blob Fest and provides background on films with

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Speaker 1: comedy games, prizes, and we're gonna talk about movies. Will

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Speaker 1: take your calls in just a moment with Mr Lobo

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Speaker 1: as well. He's with us this hour before we go

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Speaker 1: into our special tribute show. Always a pleasure, Mr Lobo,

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Speaker 1: You're one of the best. Join me, George, and together

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Speaker 1: we can rule the galaxy. I hear Stephen King is

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Speaker 1: coming out with a new movie. Yes he is, George.

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Speaker 1: He is coming out with another IT, a second IT,

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Speaker 1: second part of the first it. Actually there's only one

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Speaker 1: it and there's that's it. How does he get so

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Speaker 1: prolific to come up with all these ideas? You know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of drinking, I think as behind a lot

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Speaker 1: of it. I'd like to know how many books about

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Speaker 1: that Stephen King has written about writer's block and alcoholism.

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Speaker 1: It's probably staggering. I think probably zero. Well, there's the shining.

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Speaker 1: He's got another book coming out though another one too,

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Speaker 1: so he didn't he just doesn't stick. Very prolistic. I

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Speaker 1: think Stephen King writes six books before Breakfast. I think

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Speaker 1: you're right. So I played a little Star Wars theme

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Speaker 1: before you came on tomorrow solo with debuts, and they're

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Speaker 1: working on other ones. But are they beginning to lose

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Speaker 1: their luster? Is it beginning to lose that attraction that

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Speaker 1: it used to have? Well, you know, I think over

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Speaker 1: saturation might be part of the problem. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: with the original Star Wars only opened on thirty screens,

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Speaker 1: and it was surprised everyone. It was a very speaking

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Speaker 1: of rebellions. It was a rebellious kind of movie. Nobody

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Speaker 1: you know, it's really not a Hollywood movie. It was

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Speaker 1: made in in uh northern California, Skywalker Ranch and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff, and so it was it was a new

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Speaker 1: kind of filmmaking, new kind of film in a new

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Speaker 1: and that's the standard now. You know, you go for

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Speaker 1: something that was very undercurrent and different, and now it's

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Speaker 1: the mainstream Disney that's as mainstream as it gets. And

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Speaker 1: they're trying to put out a feature film every year,

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Speaker 1: and they're going into and they've got they already have

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Speaker 1: one television series, animated television series, and now they're going

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Speaker 1: a whole another amusement park at Disney that's happening. So

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, you have a combination of

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Speaker 1: diminishing returns and just the fact that you know you've

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Speaker 1: that has been had to go through a fix it job.

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Speaker 1: Lego movie. They took it. He took it away from

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Speaker 1: on Frank Sinatra, and you know, he was pretty prolific

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Speaker 1: story behind it. Character not and you know it. And

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Speaker 1: We go through these evolutions, Mr Lobo, where you went

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Speaker 1: from musicals in movies to these dramas to where we

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Speaker 1: see something different and to escape. And you know, but

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Speaker 1: they will just keep hammering it until it stops working.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we had westerns for NonStop westerns for

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Speaker 1: Be nice to see a larger variety of films all

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Speaker 1: and Comcast. Absolutely incredible story. A page subscription company is

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Speaker 1: now bigger and worth more than Disney and Comcast. Wow,

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Speaker 1: a it's a much more forgiving Not only is it

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Speaker 1: a much more forgiving atmosphere television versus cinema, but you

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Speaker 1: also have a lot more opportunity to explore the things

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Speaker 1: you were talking about. Story and character, which which is which?

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Speaker 1: These days everyone is is not really that able to

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Speaker 1: bamboos all with effects anymore. Story and character is pretty

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