1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleeb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: by searching apps car Booming Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Fuck Sports Radio. I hope you're having the greatest day 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: of your life. Sure, why not? Right, you have the 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: greatest day of your life? No, I mean it. You 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: guys think I'm being condescending. I'm not in anyway. So 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how we got here, but here we are. 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: We're at this crossroads. What we are? What crossroads you like? 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Pray tell Doug Gottlieb what crossroads are at We're at 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: this crossroads where you can either use to listen to 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: logic reason people in the industry, or you can listen 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: to people who have bones to pick and carry you 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: in a bias of things. I love I love t 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Josh Benzada, an actual personal friend and a friend of 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: the show. So when I play for this sound of 20 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: t jos man Zada, I just I don't know. I 21 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: think it's interesting. We also have sound of RG three, 22 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: but we all carry sort of a baggage, many of 23 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: us against RG three and his way of analyzing and 24 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: the perspective he comes from. Shadoor Sanders played poorly over 25 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: the weekend in a preseason game for the Cleveland Browns. 26 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: If you've watched Door Sanders and I've watched a ton, 27 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: it's talented quarterback, accurate, He's not crazy athletic, but he 28 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: can be elusive. It doesn't have a big arm, but 29 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: seems to get the job done and understands the timing. 30 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: But there's something missing there. One of the big things 31 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: that the criticism he held the ball too long. Now, 32 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: remember he didn't have a good offensive line for the 33 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: most part in college. How do we know One he 34 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: took a lot of sacks, but two he made sure 35 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: to tell us as such. I don't profess to be 36 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback guru. I've seen all the highlights, have seen 37 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: every play he played, and in no way did he 38 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: play well. He accumulated five sacks and the main reason, 39 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: for the most part was he held the ball. He 40 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: probably held the ball because he didn't see it might 41 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: have been confused. He's just a rookie. It's not the 42 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: end of the world. But if you factor in all 43 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: of these things, didn't play well in two of the outings, right, 44 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: he didn't play well in this outing. There's always been 45 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: concerns about him holding the football too long. And if 46 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: you're holding it too long, are you holding it too 47 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: long to make the hero player? You're holding it too 48 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: long because you're not seeing it and identifying it and 49 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: getting rid of the football. And then you factor in 50 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: what everyone in the league said about his attitude and 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: preparing for the draft. While he has said some things 52 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: which there's an appearance of some humbling, let's not act 53 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: like he's been humbled. He shows up with his little 54 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: mine entourage, people filming him everywhere, And then you factor 55 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: in that if you don't play him the right amount 56 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: of snaps with the right surrounding personnel, well, now you're 57 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: trying to undercut his chances of making the team. Where 58 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: do I sign up for this dream scenario in which 59 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: I get Shador standards and I get all this baggage 60 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: for a guy who, though talented, not the perfect player. 61 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Tom Delesco is going to join us later on the show, 62 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: I'll never forget a conversation he and I had they 63 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: needed a backup quarterback with the Chargers, and I was like, 64 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: I asked, this is in the early Kaepernick years, early 65 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Kaepernick out of the NFL years, and his response was, 66 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: I'd never forget. I'd be a hero if I signed him. 67 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: But you become powerless towards releasing him if he's not 68 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: good enough or he's not a good backup quarterback. It 69 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be a backup quarterback. At the time, 70 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: they had Philip Rivers, So I'm going to pass. He 71 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be a backup and people who support 72 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: him think that if he is a backup, if he's 73 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: not playing, it's because of something other than football. You 74 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: tell me which part of this dream everyone else in 75 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the NFL wants to sign up for. Here's Tjos Benzada 76 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: on Shannon Sharp's show. Why do you think the Browns 77 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: played it the way they did? And and and you 78 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: do and sh door the performance today. 79 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: From a from my assessment, y'all, they don't want to controversy. 80 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: That's how I look. They don't want to count because 81 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: we know what Flaco can do. Why why does Flacco 82 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: start in the game. We know what he can do. 83 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: He let y'all to the playoffs the last time. Y'all 84 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: let him play. So if you're trying to figure out 85 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: who you gonna play in case Flacco gets hurt, Dylan Gabriel, 86 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: should you let them split the game? Snoopers, Stooper, Helly, Tyler, 87 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: Helly's getting cut tomorrow. 88 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: You let them. 89 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: You let them battle without And so to me it 90 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: was like, wow, you you put him in with guys 91 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: that's gonna be on the street tomorrow. They all getting cut, 92 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: shot and everybody should do play with you know that 93 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: tomorrow on Monday. And so you didn't get this man 94 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: a fighting chance to compete. He went into a gunfight 95 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: with two knives. He gonna lose that every time. 96 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Okay, and most of those offensive limon have been cut. 97 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: I don't know about the lineman playing previous to that. Okay, 98 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: he got to play with guys that stuck on the 99 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: team during his first outing because the other guys are hurt. 100 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: Stup Huntley by the way, and I know there was 101 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: defensive penalties. Did he come in and lead them to 102 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: a game winning field goal? That did happen? Right, So 103 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: it is possible. Here's what I would like. Here's what 104 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: I would really like. I've told this to other people, 105 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: told this to parents when I coached AAU basketball I've 106 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: told it to people who now I have two seats 107 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: that are right next to me that are not not 108 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: on my bench. As a donor who actually went with 109 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: us to the Cubs game, Shannon who owns a roofing company. 110 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: He's a brilliant dude, and he sits there and he's 111 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: the only guy who knows why I'm taking somebody out. Hey, 112 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: whush did you happen to mention? He was awful? Awful? 113 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Body language was worse. You show me the young starting quarterback, 114 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: the one who comes from an NFL family, the one 115 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: who had his number retired after playing two years at 116 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: a school. You show me the guy who has that 117 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: bad abide language when he's not playing. 118 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 3: Well. 119 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: You could say whatever you want about the offensive line. 120 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't made better by Shador Sanders. Okay, continue to 121 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: drop back and not step up into the pocket and 122 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: deliver the football. He just held it and held it 123 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: and held it. He's not a great athlete and he's 124 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: holding back pedaling and it was bad. You're allowed to 125 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: take people out. You're allowed, especially with young players that 126 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna keep, to take him out and go, hey, dude, 127 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: this wasn't good. Take a breath and watch. That's a veteran, 128 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: same offensive line, same game plan. Let's see what he does, 129 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: see how he controls it. That's called coaching, And what 130 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: irritates the crap out of every coach and most people 131 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: in sports is when something that has nothing to do 132 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: with coaching gets thrust in front of you. You don't have 133 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: to blame, you don't have to split the minutes, you 134 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: don't have to split the reps. And by the way, 135 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a quarterback guru. I don't know. I can 136 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: tell you that I did watch. I watched every step. 137 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel was remarkably better. And I've never been a 138 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel guy. I do think he has a fairly 139 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: low ceiling because he doesn't have a big arm. He 140 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: is little. But you know what, played really well in 141 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: both of his preseason appearances. So why would they set 142 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: him up to fail? 143 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 4: Like? 144 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: No, do I think that that Stefanski loves to set 145 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: up I'm sure he hates it. I'm sure it's like 146 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: the rest of us. We roll our eyes and it's ridiculous. 147 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: And you have these sick of fans, like, how do 148 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: we get to this place where Shador Sanders is now 149 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick? I don't know, like explain. You know, his 150 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: son of a pro went to private schools, had private training, 151 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: had his dad as his coach, was arrogant, and treated 152 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: a lot of people who played with him or around 153 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: them poorly. Despite that, he had some success, mostly at 154 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Jackson State, some at Colorado. Goes to the draft and 155 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: rubs everybody the wrong way with his pre draft attitude 156 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: and his willingness to show complete disdain for teams he 157 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to play with, and the teams that he 158 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: did want to play for didn't want him. So he 159 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: follows to the fifth round of the draft. You're in 160 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: the National Football League also known as NFL. Not for long, 161 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: and there's modest change at times in his persona. Then 162 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: he plays poorly. Right again, all you have to ask 163 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp and again and just ask him did he 164 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: play well? Forget about the players around him? Did he 165 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: play well? And if he says he didn't have a chance, 166 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: that's fine. I've watched those videos of those sacks, he 167 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: stepped back instead of up into the pocket. He could 168 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: take a knee, he could dirt a ball, he could 169 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: throw to his hot he chose not to do so. Like, 170 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: stop making it about something, it's not that it's about. 171 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Here's Kevin Stefanski when asked about that after the game. 172 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 4: Obviously, I don't concern myself with outside type of things. 173 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm committed to his development, just like 174 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: all of our rookies. So we'll continue to focus on 175 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: getting our guys better, and that's what We'll stay committed 176 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: to him. 177 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: That's what's important to me. 178 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think you cut him, You cut 179 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: him unless the owner says you cannot do it. And 180 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: I know they haven't done it yet. I just I think, 181 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: and the fact that they haven't cut him, by the way, 182 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: is the greatest sign of their actual belief in him 183 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: as a player. Because if I'm coaching there and you're like, okay, 184 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: he's my at best, my third third best quarterback right now. Okay, 185 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: So I'm going to get pressure from fanboys that don't 186 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: watch or care or whatever. I'll get some social media pressure. 187 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: I'll get some media pressure to talk about him, to 188 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: play him, to whatever when he's at best third on 189 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: the depth chart. Okay, best third in the depth chart, 190 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: and if you do play him now, you can't really 191 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: ever replace him. Think about it. You put him in 192 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: there and he played like crap. And the takeaway for 193 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: some people is you made him play like crap. Imagine 194 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: if he goes into an actual Browns game, if he 195 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: plays well, people will go crazy. If he plays poorly, 196 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: people will go crazy, but they're not gonna blame him. 197 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how we got there. I don't I 198 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: don't understand. Like it's if it was about race, then 199 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: why they just cut Snoop Huntley, Like nobody mentioned Stup 200 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: Puntley's black, by the way, way more experienced they cut him. Yeah, 201 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: I'd love this. I'd love at some point, Jay Sue, 202 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: maybe next year when you come to one of our games, 203 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: you can track why I take certain players out. I 204 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: do that with their parents all the time. I had 205 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: one of my kids who left the dad's like, why 206 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: you took him out for this? You took him out 207 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: for that. I was like, WHOA, No, I didn't, No, 208 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: I didn't you took him out of a mistake, Like no, no, no, no, Nope, Nope. 209 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: Didn't take guy out for one mistake. The mistake you 210 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: you saw that you recognized, that's one. But there was 211 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: probably a bunch of coaching on things you were supposed 212 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: to do that you didn't do. You didn't do well. 213 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: You took him out because he missed a shot, and 214 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I didn't. He took a bad shot, 215 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: and he didn't get back on defense, and they didn't talk. 216 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: Then he picked up the wrong guy. Then he didn't 217 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: box out, then he didn't get out run, and then 218 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: he turned the ball over and then you know, it's 219 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: like you see one, I see a bunch of things. 220 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: So I would the one piece of advice I could 221 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: give to Kevin Stefanski is you can't show people video 222 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: and say what here, this is what we're really looking at. 223 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: There is a way, and we use an analytics company. 224 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons, the best reason for using 225 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: this analytics company called HCI, is that it it takes 226 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: away the need for confrontational arguments. You know, a parent 227 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: has an opinion about a kid and you're like, he's 228 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: just not very good defensively. Can you show me where 229 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: I have us do the print out and there's something 230 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: called defensive leverage. He has the worst defensive leverage on 231 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: the team. Well, what's that mean? That means that we 232 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: are at our worst defensively when your son is on 233 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: the floor. That's why he's not gonna play. I'm sure 234 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: there's a man on legal data to back it up. 235 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: Show it to them. 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Jase dou 253 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: how you doing after a wild weekend when the Dodgers 254 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: staved off a sweep and ended up sneaking out at 255 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: Petco yesterday? 256 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: You're surviving, surviving. Yeah, I'm not paying it, guy, but 257 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: I just looked at it. In total, we had six 258 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: games against the Podreys in two weeks. We took four 259 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: of six, and now it's tied a top of the division, 260 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: and the Dodgers have won the series. So if it 261 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: comes down to a tie on the season, the Dodgers 262 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: will get the division title. 263 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: So you're more confident now. 264 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: I was never unconfident. 265 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: I was coming. 266 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: I was never at a point where I have a 267 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: ton of issues with Andrew Freeman and this team. That 268 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: never changes if we're winning or losing. 269 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. 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And he doesn't 282 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 6: right away on August the twenty fourth out of Monday afternoon, 283 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 6: here at tea mobile calm run number forty nine on 284 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 6: the year. 285 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Wow, forty nine on the year, Jay su didn't you 286 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: say he was going to fall off there second half 287 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: of the year. I mean, it was a logical, reasonable 288 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: conclusion that a guy who plays catcher doesn't play dh 289 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: is going to fall off. 290 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 3: But he is not, is not much to my surprise. 291 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: Good for him, by the way. 292 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, really good for him. It's a Doug Gottlieb show 293 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Tradio. Let's welcome in Zach Jackson. 294 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: He covers the Browns and the NFL for the athletic 295 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: He joins his so on Fox Sports Radio. Zach, what's 296 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: the reality to how Shadoor played yesterday or this weekend? 297 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 7: Well, it was bad and it was kind of an 298 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 7: outlier in most of his performances. Tell you the truth. 299 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 7: I mean, the talent's obvious, but I think it's always 300 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 7: been obvious that he's not ready. You know, some people 301 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 7: wanted to deny that, and if you just watched the 302 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 7: first preseason game, maybe that went against that. Right, But 303 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 7: he's got a lot to clean up, and going back 304 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 7: to Roocky Minnie camp and going back to his college, 305 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 7: she would lose his footwork and he would struggle against 306 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 7: the rush and he would make bad decisions. So I 307 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 7: think the Browns know they have a really talented passer 308 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 7: on their hands. I think the Browns know that they 309 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 7: kind of have a mess on their hands that they 310 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 7: signed up for right by doing this, and nothing about 311 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 7: really the four main competition went in the straight line. 312 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 7: And I don't know. I mean, they've put out every 313 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 7: feeler that they're going to keep all four at least 314 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 7: for a while. But Shador is clearly forced, and I 315 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 7: think that was probably always the most likely result. 316 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: That's not even considering Deshaun Watson, who is still in 317 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: our contract. 318 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, so until yesterday, of the ninety guys on their 319 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 7: camp roster, six were quarterbacks. So this is unprecedented and 320 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 7: it's probably incompetence too. I mean, and that's the Browns 321 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 7: for twenty five years. But that's the situation they're in. 322 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 7: They're stuck with Deshaun Watson's contract. The best way out 323 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 7: is to find their own rock party, which would be 324 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 7: like round pick who makes it. Shador might do it, 325 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 7: but it's just not happening right now. 326 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: Well, you know, or Dylan Gabriel. I think Dylan Gabriel 327 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: has been a surprise. I mean, most people I know 328 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: thought third round too high for Dylan Grabriel, and yet 329 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: he's looked really good. But can can he play actual 330 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback? 331 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 7: Yeah? I wouldn't be fooled by those two preseason games. 332 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 7: Third round is too high for Dylan Gabriel, but he's 333 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 7: going to get a chance, and he's going to get 334 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 7: the first chance. Doug. I think it's eleven times since 335 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 7: they came back in ninety nine that they've played at 336 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 7: least three starting quarterbacks over the course of a year. 337 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 7: And sign him up for twelve and twenty twenty five. 338 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: What do you make of this sudden narrative that Stefanski 339 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: is setting him up to fail? 340 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's kind of ridiculous. Now, the one thing that's 341 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 7: in question is the two minute dril when they took 342 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 7: him out, and so there's only two ways to look 343 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 7: at that. One is that he was so bad during 344 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 7: the rest of it that they were saving him from himself, 345 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 7: and one is that they didn't want to put him 346 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 7: out there and let him get hot. So the second 347 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 7: one kind of sounds ridiculous, But that's the only kind 348 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 7: of question. Slash Gray area. I guess about that day, 349 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 7: he just wasn't very good and where Dylan Gabriel went 350 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 7: in and made the read and got rid of the 351 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 7: ball quickly. She ordered him do that and consistently got 352 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 7: himself in trouble. But that is really strange because you 353 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 7: have an investment in this guy and it's a preseason game. 354 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 7: Who cares if he fails? 355 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: His bide language started to start to go bad. I 356 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: actually I thought the bid language is like get get 357 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: him out, And he got stup Huntley and he throws 358 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: stup Puntley a bone. Now he's got some more some 359 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: more tape, not that he necessarily need a board tape, 360 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: but it's the to anyone who says, hey, he couldn't 361 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: move the ball behind the line. I know there's defensive 362 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: penalties there, but Stup Huntley was perfectly fine moving the 363 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: ball down the field. 364 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 7: Yeah he was. I would tell you this, Doug of 365 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 7: twenty to twenty five days a camp, the best throw 366 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 7: of the day, more times than anybody else, was made 367 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 7: by Shodwar Sanders. But there were also a couple of 368 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 7: days where that body language was really familiar to what 369 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 7: you saw after that. So he just got to grow up, 370 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 7: that's all. And there's nothing wrong with that. His career 371 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 7: is not going to be defined by one good night 372 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 7: in Carolina against second and third teamers or one bad 373 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 7: day against the Rams fourth teamers. Right, Like, he's a 374 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 7: talented kid, he's just not there. 375 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: Yet, agreed, But the will he grow up when anytime 376 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: you open your phone and you don't play well or 377 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: your buy the language isn't good, half of the world 378 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: acts like it's somebody else's fault. 379 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, Now that comes down to what he does right 380 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 7: and how he handles it. And he's going to enter 381 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 7: a brave new world because he's either going to get 382 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 7: you know, at best, half the scout team opportunities. So 383 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 7: he's got to get in that meeting room and show 384 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 7: he can get better. He's got to perform over the 385 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 7: next months as Joe Burrow as Lamar Jackson as Jordan 386 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 7: love right in these practices, and he's got to keep 387 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 7: himself ready for November or later when he gets his chance. 388 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 7: I mean, I think for the first month of the season, 389 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 7: barring something crazy, I think you're going to see four 390 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 7: on the roster. I think eventually a natural chance to 391 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 7: trade one of the veterans will come up. You know, 392 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 7: I don't think the Gabriel or Schador would be moved. 393 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 7: That would be surprising. And then it just said history 394 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 7: says he's going to play, and the situation says he's 395 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 7: going to play. And if there's one quote that matters 396 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 7: from all of training camp, it's the owner saying we 397 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 7: need to see the rookies play this year. And the 398 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 7: head coach knows that, and he said that on about 399 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 7: the fifth day of camp, and that's going to follow 400 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 7: this team through the reality of the situation all the 401 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 7: way through. 402 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: Steut Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, we're talking 403 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: not just Brown's the rest of the NFL. With Zach Jackson, 404 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: who joins us Okay let let's let's keep it in 405 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: that division. What are reports on Pittsburgh with Aaron Rodgers? Right, 406 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: they were a quarterback away last year. Now you get 407 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: as good a possible quarterback who's out there on paper, 408 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: but he's older. He wasn't great the whole year last year. 409 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: And it's a totally news system. 410 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 7: Yeah. If Pittsburgh's defense is good, they're going to be 411 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 7: really good. I mean, I liked Aaron Rodgers fitt and 412 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 7: I think you said it well, like how could they 413 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 7: have done better? So? Can he hold up and he 414 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 7: and Arthur Smith and DK Metcalf, you know, find the 415 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 7: right notes to be on the same page at what 416 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 7: they want to do and how they can do it. 417 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 7: Can they develop a second receiver? Do they have to 418 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 7: use the tight ends? It's crazy there's this division. There's 419 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 7: two absolutely elite quarterbacks and there's two guys forty plus 420 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 7: and Flacco's temporary in Cleveland. Everybody knows that. But Rodgers 421 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 7: are supposed to get Pittsburgh to January and they've been 422 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 7: getting there. Right. We know this team can win ugly, 423 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 7: they just can't win the big ones so or winning 424 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 7: the playoffs. I give the Steelers every chance. I think 425 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 7: this division is wide open among the three teams that 426 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 7: aren't the Browns. You know, I think Baltimore obviously is 427 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 7: the best because of their roster and because of their quarterback. 428 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 7: But I think the Steelers and Bengals things go their 429 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 7: way or legitimate you know, finge contenders in the AFT. 430 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: What about the Bengals. Can they stop anybody? 431 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 7: Not so far? You know, I think it'll be a 432 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 7: thirty one to thirty type game Week one in Cleveland. 433 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 7: But you know, if they can just get a couple 434 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 7: of stops, they can win. Burrows is truly that good, 435 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 7: he really is. And they need to get the Tray 436 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 7: Hendrickson thing resolved like yesterday, right, but they got to 437 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 7: t Higgins sing at least temporarily resolved. Jase Brown is 438 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 7: a nice back. If they can keep Burrow clean at all, 439 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 7: then he's going to go nuclear. 440 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a lot of interesting teams 441 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: out there. The Rams were you know a lot of 442 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: people like the Rams roster, like what they've done. And 443 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: then yeah, Matt Stafford, who two years ago we were 444 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: told the back made leading to retire. Then you know, 445 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: they play in the Snow Game last year in Philly, 446 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: so we have no idea what that would have looked like, 447 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: although we know they wouldn't be able to stop Saque. 448 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on not just the but their 449 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: ability to have matt Stafford play the majority of the season. 450 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think that's the question, right, Can 451 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 7: Adams and Stafford be healthy for almost all of it 452 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 7: or all of it? Whoka has been banged up, but 453 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 7: he's phenomenal. I mean, I think if that offense is 454 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 7: unlocked and healthy, that they can go. And I think 455 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 7: when you look at the playoffs, they're the one team 456 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 7: it was in it with the Eagles for the course 457 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 7: of the game. So it's an interesting situation there because 458 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 7: if Stafford does get hurt, it'll be time for them 459 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 7: to move on. But they seem to be pretty close 460 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 7: to all in. And this is a mysterious month. This 461 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 7: is Matthew Stafford at this stage of his career, really 462 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 7: need all of training camp. Probably not, Probably would have 463 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 7: liked to have him to have had more than he 464 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 7: actually has though, right, So we'll see. But I think 465 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 7: that's a team that I think that's another interesting division, right, 466 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 7: But the Rams are a team that they should think 467 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 7: they can be back in January. If those guys can 468 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 7: stay healthy. 469 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: In your mind, has the league caught up to the 470 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: Cancity Chiefs. 471 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 7: I think in a way. Sure, I think they've obviously 472 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 7: had some struggles offensively, but that's why they draft the 473 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 7: left tackle in the first round. I think Xavi your 474 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 7: worthies and an intriguing guy. And you know, I don't 475 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 7: think anybody knows for sure what's going to happen with 476 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 7: for she Rice, but he obviously has been a playmaker 477 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 7: when he's healthy, So I don't know. I debated in 478 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl do you ever bet against mahomes Well 479 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 7: in that day? If you did, you were right. You know. 480 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 7: I still think there's a pretty strong chance that they 481 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 7: win the AFC West and they're there at the end 482 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 7: and it goes through them. And if you'd be given 483 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 7: their experience and given myhome's talent level, I won't be 484 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 7: a surprise if they're the team everybody's chasing again. 485 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, man Zach. Really appreciate it having you on. 486 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: Can't wait to talk more as the season gets gets going. 487 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: Look forward to reading more your work in the athletic 488 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for being our guests on Fox Sports. It's Fox Sports. 489 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 3: Radio. 490 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 7: Dah, I'm going to Youngstown State Thursday night for football, 491 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 7: and the next time I'm there it'll be to see 492 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 7: you guys. 493 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: Ah awesome, awesome. I just I have the embargoed schedule, 494 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: so I do know and we huh, I'll send it 495 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: to you. Go see the Gwinns. Thanks for me, I 496 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: guess appreciate Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, 497 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: Jay Stu. How do we deal with prediction season? How 498 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: do we deal with it? I mean, obviously we're not 499 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: going to do the prediction things, but people do it. 500 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about in the pod 501 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: when we have a little bit more time. But the 502 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: next ten days are like really prediction season, and like 503 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: everyone does it. And the weird part about it is 504 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: like lists and predictions get you the most clicks on 505 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: social media, Like if I really wanted to grow my 506 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: TikTok page or my Instagram page, I should just do 507 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: lists every day. And people that the numbers don't lie. 508 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: How do we combat that? 509 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I don't know if lists or predictions 510 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: gets you the most quicks. I think being interesting gets 511 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: you in the most quicks. 512 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: Being under I think, but that's not the case. 513 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: No, No, I think the people that offer off the best 514 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: content get the most quicks. But my stance on prediction season, 515 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: if I'm ever to run a network, I would ban predictions. 516 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: And you're like, what, you can't talk about who's gonna 517 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: win the next game? Exactly? How about this talk about 518 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: what has happened? Put a lot of work into thinking 519 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 3: about something interesting about what already has happened, and then 520 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: give your listeners that. Because predictions are just empty calories 521 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: and lazy segments. Every time I see a segment dedicated 522 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: to predictions, I think, oh, somebody's mailing it in, namely 523 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: the entire producing staff and hosts. Yeah. 524 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't enjoy it. I really don't, but that's I'll 525 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: be We also don't do it, you know, we can 526 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: just not do it, but people do, like, I mean really, 527 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: big time radio hosts will do it. TV hosts will 528 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: do it. I don't understand it. I don't. I don't 529 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: get the value of it. 530 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: It's easy, and it serves the ego of the host. 531 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: It doesn't serve the viewer or the wistener. 532 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 8: Huh. 533 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: I never thought about this serving the ego of the host. Interesting, 534 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'd say most hosts probably think this is 535 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: what viewers want. Now, whether they do or they don't. Again, 536 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: that's the assumption. That was my assumption that I was, 537 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, I was making. Is everything I've been told? 538 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 1: Is you know lists or what what lists or what 539 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: brings a number? 540 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: Like? 541 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Okay? Sure, it doesn't mean I have to do it. Deserve. 542 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 543 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 544 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. M m mmm, oh god, 545 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: we're talking a lot about the Browns and they stink. 546 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm just ready to just talk talk about good teams. Maybe. Well, 547 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: let's let's get to Mansi blogna some play game months. 548 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 5: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 549 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: All right there, what do you got. 550 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 8: We're gonna start this week with big deal, little deal, 551 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 8: no deal. That's right, Coach, You're gonna tell me whether 552 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 8: things are a big deal, little deal or no deal. 553 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 8: Let's get it going here, big deal, little deal, no deal. Michigan, 554 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 8: The Wolverines have reportedly named freshman true freshman Bryce Underwood. 555 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 9: As their starting quarterback. Is this a big deal, A 556 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 9: little deal, no deal. 557 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's Michigan, right, so yeah, I guess it's 558 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: a big deal. I just I can't tell you. I'm 559 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: so invested in Michigan football I care who they're starting 560 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: quarterback is, that's all. 561 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll go little deal, little deal. 562 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 8: You just don't hear that very often, right, true freshman 563 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 8: getting the starting job like that, You really don't. 564 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 9: All right, let's move on here. Let's move on to 565 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 9: a little baseball coach. Big deal, little deal, no deal. 566 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 8: The Padres took two of the three from the Dodgers 567 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 8: this weekend. There is now a tie atop the NL West, 568 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 8: and we've got what a month left if that? 569 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 7: Uh. 570 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal. Yeah, I think it's 571 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: a big deal. I mean, like, look, I understand the 572 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: Dodgers went in there and won big games last year 573 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: to help turn around that turn around that series. But 574 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: I would also tell you that I do think home 575 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: field advantaged matters. Yea, how you finished matters They're gonna 576 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: likely play against the other in the playoffs. Yeah, so yeah, 577 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a little deal, not a big deal. 578 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 8: Okay, all right, I'm with Jason, though I did breathe 579 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 8: a sigh of relief. 580 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 9: Okay, well we're gonna stick with this a little bit. 581 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 9: But big deal, little deal, no deal. 582 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 8: The Yankees avoided the sweep at home against the Red Sox, 583 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 8: but they've fallen to third place in their division. They 584 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 8: fall into the second wald card spot in the AL 585 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 8: and it's a little bit tight, like they got to 586 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 8: get it together and the Yankees are If you're a 587 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 8: Yankee fan, I'm sorry because the mental mistakes that they 588 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 8: make are mistakes that you should not be making for 589 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 8: a professional team that was just in the World Series. 590 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 9: So a big deal, little deal, no deal? 591 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: Uh, which part? There was a bunch of there? 592 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 9: So do you think it's a big deal? 593 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 8: They fall into third place in their division because the 594 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 8: Red Sox kind of took over this weekend. They did 595 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 8: avoid the sweep, they did avoid the sweep, but now 596 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 8: they're in the second wild card spot in the AL 597 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 8: and it is a tight race they. 598 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: Could fall out of a big deal. Yeah, it's a 599 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: big deal. 600 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah. 601 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: A lot of pressure there, a lot of pressure there. 602 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: Got to perform. It's a big deal. 603 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 9: It is a big deal. 604 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: My favorite theme on on Twitter now and it's replaced 605 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: the Angel Reese guy. So I think Angel Reese has 606 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: been injured. I don't know that for a fact, because 607 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 3: I don't she. 608 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 9: Came back recently, like just came back, but she was gone. 609 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: Yes, So replacing the guy that plays all of her 610 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: missus and overreacts to them. I love the Anthony Vulpi 611 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: guys on Twitter. Anthony Volpi makes an amazing diving play here, 612 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: saves a run, and it's always one of the worst judgment, 613 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: Like it's always a mental mistake and a throwing mistake, 614 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: and it's like he's awful at shortstop. How could that 615 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: team have made it to the World Series in the 616 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: way to do? 617 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 8: Seriously, and it's not even just him, Jason, Like the 618 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 8: mental mistakes just all around. 619 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 9: You're just like nobody's being held accountable. 620 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 8: Okay, I'm gonna hold Jason here accountable because I'll never 621 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 8: forget what he said about cal Rawley participating in the 622 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 8: home run derby. Big deal, little deal, no deal that 623 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 8: cal Raley? Is it forty eight and forty nine home run? 624 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 8: Well number eight, forty eight, number forty nine. This all 625 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 8: happened yesterday Sunday on the season, setting a major League 626 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 8: record for catchers in a single season. Big deal, little deal, 627 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 8: no deal. 628 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. It's never never had before in 629 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: major league basics, never Major League Baseball is going been 630 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: going on. 631 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 9: For more than a minute, which is crazy. 632 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: Big deal, big deal, big deal. 633 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 8: And Seattle can use that because they're trying, you know, 634 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 8: to get deep into the playoffs this year. 635 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 9: Here, all right, let's move on here. 636 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 8: Big deal, little deal, no deal coach that the Cleveland 637 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 8: Browns have waived quarterback. 638 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 9: Pro Bowl quarterback Tyler Hutting late. 639 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: Uh, it's a little deal. I mean, it's no deal. 640 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: Everybody knew who's gonna get a cut, So they just 641 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: need a lot of other live arm. 642 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 9: M hm because of the injuries. 643 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, banged up and also just a lot of 644 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: reps for some of their guys at practice. So yeah, 645 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: Holley's a pros pro. I mean, even shoudor Sanders, you know, 646 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: credit him with, you know, kind of learning. And here's 647 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: the guy who's been through a lot of a lot 648 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: of stuff and you know obviously came with a great attitude, 649 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: which is what you have to do if you want 650 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: to stay in the league, especially you're not a starter. 651 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I it's a it's a little deal, but 652 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: I do think it speaks to like, again, that's the 653 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: job of the backup quarterback. Sometimes you're even gonna get 654 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: cut and you know it, and you still have to 655 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: come in with a great attitude. So no deal we play. 656 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 3: Can we play a little Explain your tweet? It's a 657 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: sidebar game to the games. Explain your tweet, Okay. Doug 658 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: Gottlieb yesterday sixteen hours ago, quote tweeted Schefter's announcement of 659 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: this news story. Ty Huntley has been released. If we 660 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: want to do a quote life ain't fair, then we 661 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 3: should do just should discuss Snoop Huntley. Yeah, what do 662 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 3: you mean by that? 663 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: Well, I mean here, Stupe Huntley came in right, and 664 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: I understand that he knew he wasn't very very unlikely 665 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: to remain with the team. But in the same game, 666 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: with the same line, and he has played more football 667 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's played football in the NFL. Then 668 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: he's been a Pro bowler than Shadoor Sanders. It's like, again, 669 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: life's not fair that he's probably a better quarterback. If 670 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: the Cleveland brownsie to a quarterback for Sunday, who's a 671 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: better option stoop Huntley or Shore. 672 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 9: Sanders probably snoop. 673 00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah. 674 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: So what we get from people is the it's not 675 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: fair that Shadoor Sanders is playing with four stringers. Like, okay, 676 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: it's also not fair to stup Puntley. But he didn't 677 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: complain about it. He went out and played. That's my 678 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: that's my point. 679 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, a couple more of your coach that 680 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 9: I've got for you. A big deal, little deal, no deal. 681 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 8: You know, was Week zero in college football and a 682 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 8: video circulated on social media, So big deal, little deal, 683 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 8: no deal that the father and brother of Kansas State 684 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 8: quarterback Avery Johnson got into a fight after there came 685 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 8: on Saturday. 686 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: Uh, big deal. I know, it's not funny that team lost, 687 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: Your team lost, and your dad and brother are are 688 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: rolling brawling in the streets. Like what. 689 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 9: When I saw the video, I didn't know was the 690 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 9: father and son. I thought it was just like fans upset. 691 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 8: And then when it came out there was a father 692 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 8: and son, I was like, oh. 693 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 9: No, yeah, this poor quarterback Avery Johnson. Like now you're 694 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 9: gonna have to You're gonna have to talk about this. 695 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, you're gonna have to it's gonna 696 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 8: be addressed. 697 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: Weren't we confused? I don't know if you guys went 698 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 3: through this this exact uh thought process. But father and 699 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 3: brother of Avery Johnson fight after Kansas State. I'm like, WHOA, 700 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know Avery Johnson had a son who played 701 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 3: quarterback at Kansas State. Elmer Spurs champion Avery Johnson. And 702 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: then you dive a little deepener and it's not so. 703 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: It was very conviced Avery Johnson, the little General. 704 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 9: I think that's game time. 705 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 5: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 706 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's get into it. In regards to our weekend. 707 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: Would you love from the weekend? What'd you hate from 708 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: the weekend? The sports weekend? I mean, I guess you 709 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: could do all, but we do this every Monday. So Ryan, 710 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to come up with something he loved, 711 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: and MONSI, you're gonna have to come up with something 712 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: you hated because you love everything. Mons Right, Jay Stu 713 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: gotta come up with something he loved because he hates 714 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: everything as well. So that's the plan. I need you 715 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: guys all think about it himself. What'd you love from 716 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: the weekend of sports? What'd you hate from the weekend 717 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: of sports, We'll share with you our thoughts next and 718 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.