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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: I asked you a loaded question before the break, doctor Tara,

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Speaker 2: about paranormal science. What do you, in your professional opinion

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Speaker 2: from a neuroscience perspective, somebody who sees an alien or

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Speaker 2: a ghost or another, you know, extraterrestrial being that have

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Speaker 2: no prior identification with them. Have you interviewed people like that.

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Speaker 3: I haven't personally interviewed people like that, but I have

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Speaker 3: looked into a couple of areas of research that I

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Speaker 3: think irrelevant to this. So the first one is what's

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Speaker 3: known as the observable universe. So from the science point

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Speaker 3: of view, we know that the universe is either infinite

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Speaker 3: or boundless, and that we can only see as far

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Speaker 3: into the universe as it takes the speed of light

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Speaker 3: to travel back to us. So we know that there

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Speaker 3: is more to the universe that we can't see, but

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Speaker 3: we accept that it's there scientifically even though we can't

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Speaker 3: see it. And I think a lot of you know,

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Speaker 3: the issue with sciences that everything has to be provable

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Speaker 3: and measurable, but there are definitely things like the observable

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Speaker 3: universe where we accept that it exists even though we

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Speaker 3: can't see it. Professor David Eagleman from UCLA talks about

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Speaker 3: this idea that the brain is like a radio that

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Speaker 3: can receive signals, and he says this can't be proven,

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Speaker 3: but it categorically can't be disproven. And Professor Donald Hoffman

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Speaker 3: talks about the construct of the universe, which we currently

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Speaker 3: accept as the space time continuum, even though we can't

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Speaker 3: prove it, and he suggests that consciousness may actually be

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Speaker 3: the construct of the universe and that that is not

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Speaker 3: provable but also not disprovable. So I'm setting that up

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Speaker 3: to say that they're you know, science doesn't have all

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Speaker 3: the answers for everything, and so when we look at

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Speaker 3: things like normal activity or visions. I'm going to go

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Speaker 3: with the research on what I call the claires so

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Speaker 3: clairvoyance most people have heard of, which is that you

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Speaker 3: see things that will happen in the future, or you

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Speaker 3: see It's also connected to remote viewing, which is seeing

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Speaker 3: things that are so far away you couldn't possibly actually

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Speaker 3: see those things, but you still see them. Claire, audience

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Speaker 3: is hearing things that are you know that you shouldn't

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Speaker 3: be able to perceive. With what we understand about current hearing,

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Speaker 3: and then Claire cognizance is just knowing something in your

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Speaker 3: mind to be true, even though there's no rational way

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Speaker 3: of explaining it, and Clare sentience is this similar thing,

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Speaker 3: when people experience these paranormal visions or activities, they're probably

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Speaker 3: tapping into one of those senses that isn't physiologically strictly

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Speaker 3: a sense in the way that I created the table

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Speaker 3: in the book of the thirty four physiological senses that

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Speaker 3: we have, which already is like so far away from

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Speaker 3: the fact that most people think we have five senses,

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Speaker 3: people think that's intuition, some people think it's balance that

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Speaker 3: humans actually have thirty four senses as far as a

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Speaker 3: scientific literature review would tell us that today. So, for example,

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Speaker 3: taste is subdivided into five, which is sweet, sour, salty, bitter,

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Speaker 3: and umami. But umami was only discovered and named in

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Speaker 3: have umami sense before that? Of course not. So we

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Speaker 3: that's as far as I can go, you know, staying

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Speaker 3: an ancient wisdom that we've forgotten, things that our ancestors knew,

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Speaker 3: let's ask the listeners. Do you ever think about the

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Speaker 3: day in the life of Homo erectus, What dreams of

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Speaker 3: We cannot discount that there are other types of beings

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Speaker 2: Right because it's not disprovable, right. Essentially, So these forms

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of the same thing as the communication

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Speaker 3: It hasn't faded at all. It got stronger and stronger

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Speaker 3: to the point that it's daily communication. And yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: how I live my life. You know, I live a

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Speaker 3: him communicating with me is absolutely part of my everyday

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard from your husband that you would

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Speaker 2: be doing a lot of media podcasts and so forth.

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Speaker 3: So on a very big podcast that I was on

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, I said at the end that

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Speaker 3: I'd actually wanted to be an actress when I was

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Speaker 3: And I came home and told my father and he

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Speaker 3: medical school. Yes, So I actually did. So I mostly

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Speaker 3: talked to Robin. I don't really try to talk to

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Speaker 3: that many other people, but I've also lost a lot

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Speaker 3: which is literally literally over his dead body. If I

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Speaker 3: bump into a famous actress. That will be my sign.

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Speaker 3: So I am the trustee of a charity called the

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Speaker 3: Lady Garden Foundation for Gynecological Cancers, and every year we

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Speaker 2: I find it extraordinary that you put in specific requests

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Speaker 2: like this, show me an actress. And is there a

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Speaker 2: way that you recommend looking for or asking for these signs?

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Speaker 3: Yes? So you know, what I say to my friends

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Speaker 3: you'd like to receive a sign, from them. Think of

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Speaker 2: Even if you're a skeptic, will this work well?

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Speaker 3: As a you know, former medical doctor, I took the

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Speaker 2: No harm in that yeah, no harm at all. I

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Speaker 2: the fifth dimension, what do you explain as the fifth dimension?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I've obviously heard people at Gaya

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Speaker 3: So I would definitely defer to you know, the kind

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Speaker 3: is very important for human potential. In The Five Regrets

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Speaker 3: Now that could be the fifth dimension, it could be Source,

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Speaker 3: more seems to be very important to the human soul

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Speaker 2: Interesting. I'm wondering if you care and if you can

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what I'm going to do today

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Speaker 3: is I'm going to ask for the sign of a chimpanzee.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a great idea.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, if I see you on that means that

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Speaker 3: Jane Goodall can communicate.

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Speaker 2: With Would you let me know? Because you love to

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Speaker 3: Let's all do it. Let's all do it.

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Speaker 2: Because that raises awareness about the chimpanzees, which she, you know,

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Speaker 2: that would be incredible. Do you hear of extraordinary signs

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Speaker 2: from people? You must hear incredible stories.

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Speaker 3: Oh thousands. I mean my team literally have not been

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Speaker 3: able to go through all the emails yet that we

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Speaker 3: received since before the book came out, I did a

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Speaker 3: big podcast, The Diary of a CEO, where I first

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Speaker 3: shared my personal grief story and my story of signs,

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Speaker 3: and we've been inundated since then. I actually did not

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Speaker 3: realize how much impact this would have, how many people

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Speaker 3: have pretty much the same story.

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