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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: This is an exciting episode of the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 2: You know why, Ashley, I do know why because.

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Speaker 3: It is our first time recapping Bachelor in Paradise this season.

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Speaker 2: Goodness gracious, are we excited for this? I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you want to get me fired up, you let me

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Speaker 2: watch Bachelor and Paradise and Golden Bachelor in the same

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Speaker 2: week on the same day, and you're gonna make me

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Speaker 2: happy because I think both these shows are hits.

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Speaker 3: They're so fun. I got our screener right and it

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Speaker 3: said like.

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Speaker 4: Golden Bachelor ready to watch now, Bachelor in Paradise is

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Speaker 4: ready to watch now. Now. I know we're recording this

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Speaker 4: one first, so I had to watch this one first.

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Speaker 4: But I am dying of curiosity to see what the

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Speaker 4: other one's like. But let's let's talk about Bachelor and

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Speaker 4: Paradise because it lived up.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: I was captivated through and through, as I normally am

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Speaker 4: with Bachelor and Paradise. They had a fun little bit

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Speaker 4: in the beginning where they use an other old Schools song,

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Speaker 4: what a Feeling Right? And I was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: is this gonna be like the new intro song. We

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Speaker 4: can't not have an intro. We can't not use almost Paradise, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's just it's just another.

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Speaker 2: Almost Paradise, probably up their price a little bit to you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, you guys are using an abusing whoever

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Speaker 4: wrote that song. Well, I'm sure we'll get that at

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Speaker 4: the beginning of next episode. Because this episode was all

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Speaker 4: about the introductions as usual.

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Speaker 3: The first hour is pretty much all.

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Speaker 4: About just like the meeting and mingling and the reintroductions

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Speaker 4: from the seasons. I guess nobody from this is obviously

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Speaker 4: a surprise, but I will say that once we kind

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Speaker 4: of got to see the cast, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: now I'm placing them. I'm not, I'm placing them now.

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Speaker 4: I like kind of remembered everybody's storyline from the previous

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Speaker 4: season what about you.

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Speaker 2: The shocker for me was is Blake being there, which

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Speaker 2: we've known, but like, it's just a surprising to see

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Speaker 2: him on the beach. Obviously, Rachel being there was not

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Speaker 2: a shocker. It's just gonna be an interesting dynamic. I

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Speaker 2: think if any bachelorette were to go back to the

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Speaker 2: beach and kind of be you know, well's talked about it,

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Speaker 2: like a lot of times the leads come if they

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Speaker 2: come back on the show, kind of have this like

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Speaker 2: leadership mentality where they care for everybody else but not themselves,

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Speaker 2: and they're a little bit like just above you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, the other people because they were a lead

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Speaker 2: at one point. I don't think Rachel's gonna be that way.

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Speaker 2: I think she'll dive in. I think she'll make great TV.

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Speaker 2: And I think she is really there because she hasn't

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Speaker 2: had the easiest of times dating in public, and so

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Speaker 2: she's like, why not, you know, why not do this?

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Speaker 2: The other person I didn't know but obviously makes a

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Speaker 2: big splash in episode one is Mercedes. I didn't remember

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Speaker 2: Zach season honestly, but Mercedes obviously made a big splash

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Speaker 2: right away, and her commentary is fantastic. At least, you know,

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Speaker 2: in episode one, I feel like she's somebody that I

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Speaker 2: of the like, the not like the edge and the sarcasm,

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Speaker 2: but then she's obviously very sweet and there for the

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Speaker 2: right reasons, but like she can hold her own when

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Speaker 2: it comes to an argument, you can tell.

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Speaker 3: Well, see I felt that about Olivia. She was she

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Speaker 3: was somebody I don't remember whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: And which Sorry, but she's definitely coming in hot this season.

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Speaker 4: And then Kylie, who I do remember from Zach Seuism.

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Speaker 4: I think she's going to be a very prominent character.

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Speaker 4: She's sweet, and she's obviously going to go head to

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Speaker 4: people that I was like, oh, okay, this is going

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Speaker 4: to be a storyline. Well, Rachel being first sand is

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Speaker 4: worth mentioning. They had to give her that respect of

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Speaker 4: the former bachelorette coming in and being the first one

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Speaker 4: down the beach. That's what Becca got, I believe, And

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's like their way to appease

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Speaker 2: Ash Let me ask you this because we've we've touched

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Speaker 2: on it a few times in the past, but I

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Speaker 2: think it's always a good reminder. Why is it so

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Speaker 4: Well, it's easier to pair up, I'd say it's probably

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Speaker 4: easier to stay long term if you start there, because

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Speaker 4: like you just bond really much more easily. When it's

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Speaker 4: everybody going in at once, you know, you're kind of

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Speaker 4: on an even playing field, and it's it always feels

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Speaker 4: like more of a disadvantage to come in late because

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Speaker 4: people have already paired off, So you're you're going to

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Speaker 4: be less likely to even get like friendship roses. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be less likely to get friendship roses like

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Speaker 4: loyalty roses if you don't go in early.

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Speaker 2: Okay, second question to that, how does the friendship roses work?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Is that a secret conversation? Is it just the like

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Speaker 2: unspoken understanding? Is it frowned upon in paradise to get

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's frowned upon, And usually it's

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Speaker 4: like pretty well like mutually agreed upon, unless somebody is

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's good to be there night one because

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Speaker 2: it's just easier to make the connections and then and

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Speaker 2: to make the friendships that are necessary for you to

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Speaker 2: be around long enough to maybe meet somebody that you

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Speaker 2: are into and that you want to build a relationship

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Speaker 2: with see. For me, if I was in Rachel's situation,

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey, I want to come in week

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Speaker 2: five four weeks, five weeks, however long it is. I

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Speaker 2: want to come in late. I want to see what's

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Speaker 2: it's not working, I'm good with it.

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Speaker 4: Not no, because you don't want to tear up relationships.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to go in that you're with that,

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Speaker 4: you want who's on your list to be with somebody. Okay, no, No,

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Speaker 4: you're just going in on a second or third week.

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Speaker 4: Is just like you becoming part of a love triangle

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Speaker 2: And those are never fun. We've known because the.

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Speaker 4: Catches are usually kind of taken. But speaking of catches,

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Speaker 4: that is what I wanted to mention, isn't it rude?

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Speaker 3: It's always like this on Paradise.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, but like the girls are just like

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Speaker 4: the guys are. Like every season, I'm like, I would

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Speaker 4: you'd have to convince me to go on a date

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the girls, I mean, especially this season, I think,

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Speaker 2: to how they talk to the guys. The guys say

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Speaker 2: the most awkward things. I mean, at every conversation, I'm

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Speaker 2: It does feel that way to me. I will say this,

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Speaker 2: and this was in my notes. I think I say

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Speaker 2: it every year. I just and I was talking to

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Speaker 2: Jess about it, like how do they find so many

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Speaker 2: dudes with so many apps? Like what is going on

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Speaker 2: here that these guys are not much younger than me.

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Speaker 2: I work out every day of my life. I'm in

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Speaker 2: fine shape. I feel fine about myself. I feel great

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Speaker 2: about myself. I mean, I'm not ripping my shirt off

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Speaker 2: in public so that I because I don't think people

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Speaker 2: these dudes, every single one of them, are just absolutely

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Speaker 2: massively Jack, Like what is going on? Ben?

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Speaker 3: Like you got a six back at one point?

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Speaker 4: Sure, I think that like it all, it's just all

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Speaker 4: about your priorities.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's just like the.

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Speaker 4: Priority is like finding someone and you and you're finding

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Speaker 4: somebody on TV. So your main priority and leading up

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Speaker 4: to the show is working out looking good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's what Jessica said. She says, you have to

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Speaker 2: understand that for the last three months of their life,

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Speaker 2: And I was like, that makes more sense. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: that makes more sense. But these yeah, they're all pretty jacked.

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Speaker 2: Every I mean, everybody's looking good on the beach. It's

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Speaker 2: a very good looking group of people. I would say

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Speaker 2: in general, I think that's what for me as I

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Speaker 3: That brought up a couple thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, first off, everybody thought that you looked so

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Speaker 4: in Mountain.

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Speaker 2: Cheek, so I should wear a suit and a cowboy

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Speaker 2: hat Cowboys of the Beach.

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Speaker 4: Yes, everybody was like, oh my god, Ben, you can

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Speaker 3: A little a little ego boost if you want to go.

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Speaker 3: Read the comments under.

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Speaker 4: That real Well no, because I had a like, no,

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Speaker 2: Well, or the comment being like he looks so different,

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Speaker 2: he looked so handsome. That was one of the comments.

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Speaker 2: Top Yeah I was. I was like, dang, all right,

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Speaker 4: So my other thought was that Eliza, she's always been beautiful,

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Speaker 3: Gosh, she looks so good. She was a surprise.

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Speaker 4: Definitely a surprised to see her come down there was

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Speaker 4: she not on the original cast list. If not, I

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Speaker 4: would I overlooked the fact that she has such a

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Speaker 4: big storyline last season between Justin and Rodney and then

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Speaker 4: Blake coming down. Oh my gosh, Blake looks so good.

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Speaker 4: He looks I think the best he's ever looked on

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Speaker 4: any of these shows. The way that his facial hair

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Speaker 4: It's like less of a billy goat look so good

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Speaker 4: for him. And then I'm usually not a fan of

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Speaker 4: I know, Bryden reminded me so much, and I think

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Speaker 4: No, it's not about them like fundamentally as people.

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Speaker 3: It's more about vibes.

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Speaker 3: Right, Wait, really, where the heck was I.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, but yeah, this is a big headline.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Aaron, just they get off of it.

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Speaker 3: Why does Aaron annoy me?

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Speaker 2: Because I think I think what annoys me about Aaron

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Speaker 2: Can I be honest with you? Why I think she

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Speaker 4: ingroined in her soul that she doesn't like her and

436
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 4: she likes to make fun of people she doesn't like.

437
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and they've also had a history on the

438
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: show before, and so that obviously plays into that. Even

439
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 2: if you know, even if she didn't necessarily appreciate Cat's personality,

440
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 2: their history on the show is obviously gonna like come

441
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 2: into paradise because the show knows they can, like, the

442
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: producers know they can get Brooklyn to bring that into Paradise,

443
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: and so you know, we see it. It's heightened. That

444
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: always causes good TV in Paradise is the conflicts between

445
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: the two people. But maybe, just like last season, maybe

446
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: possibly we could see these conflicts and these two people

447
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: not liking each other become good friends because of the

448
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: turmoils and the sadness and the shared experience leads them

449
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: to go, I don't dislike you as much as I

450
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 2: thought I did. I actually don't hate you at all.

451
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 2: And then they become friends and they start to appreciate

452
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: each other. That was an that was anun not even

453
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: an unspoken It was an underlying theme of last season

454
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: on Paradise. That was really beautiful to see was the

455
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: friendships that were made from people that were previously enemies.

456
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's almost as cool as a love,

457
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: you know, romance.

458
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are fun. Those are fun.

459
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 4: Let's get to the big triangle that is this episode,

460
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 4: and that is between Will, Olivia and Kylie.

461
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 3: What was your initial take?

462
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I I don't know. I want to

463
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: ask you this ash, have you ever been in the

464
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: suckingd toes.

465
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 4: Nobody's watching this episode without trying to think of them

466
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: sucking their significant others toes. We've already had sucking toes

467
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 4: and a couple of seasons ago.

468
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've brought it back. And I'm just like.

469
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: I and this is a comment that I know a

470
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: lot of it's rated r and I know that a

471
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 4: lot of us are thinking of it. Though, why are

472
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 4: you okay with putting some things in our mouth from

473
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 4: the body and the other.

474
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: We're like toes?

475
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: Isn't that Rachel's comment that I thought was hilarious. Yes,

476
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: I thought Rachel's comment was hilarious. She's like, I don't

477
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: I need a guy that wants me suck his toes?

478
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: I put a lot weirder things in my mouth. And

479
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: I thought, like for Rachel to say that as the

480
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: lead in episode one made me laugh, like it made

481
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: me like belly laugh because I was like that one

482
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: takes comments too. It's not not true. Now, I will say,

483
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: like my wife right now, and my feet get a

484
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: great rating on Wiki feet like I got, I have

485
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: fine feet.

486
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 3: You have good feet for some reason. I can see

487
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: them in my head right now.

488
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have fine feet. But like if we're laying

489
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: on the couch, you know, and she's at one end

490
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: a month, I'm at the other end. My feet are

491
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: like at her by her face, like she doesn't love it,

492
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: like it's not it's she kind of like puts a

493
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: cover over him or puts a blanket over him, like

494
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: it's just not her thing. It's never really been something

495
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: I've thought of in my life as something that I

496
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: was I would like to think about the only other

497
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: time in my life I've ever thought about it was

498
00:24:52,960 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: Rex Ryan once when he was a couch guy. So,

499
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: but it's an interesting conversation to kick off with. And

500
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: I think it was more lighthearted and funny and kind

501
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: of wild. And I don't think either of them were

502
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: against the idea of it. I just don't think they.

503
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't I think it was being overly sexualized. I

504
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: don't think either of them we're thinking, oh, yeah, please

505
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: do this is the best thing ever. I think it

506
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: was like more of a laughing like, hey, this is

507
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 2: awkward first, like we're on the paradise. Somehow it got

508
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: brought up. But I will say as the conversation continued,

509
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: it did feel like that initial kind of icebreaker of

510
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: you know in a second, toes led them to have

511
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: a real connection, like some laughter together.

512
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: Now it was some hardcore flirting.

513
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 2: It was like I would say, it was like hardcore flirting.

514
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: It was aggressive flirting would be And yes, it was wild,

515
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: and it got way overplayed on the show and everybody

516
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 2: was talking about it, and everybody's like, you can't talk

517
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: about sucking toes and then going on a date with

518
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: somebody else, And I'm like, this is the wildest statements

519
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: I've ever heard.

520
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 3: Of course, it was the kiss, but it is so

521
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: fast kiss again.

522
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, it's.

523
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 4: I know the flirting of the toe sucking led to

524
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 4: the kiss.

525
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: That's where I would I have a problem with it.

526
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: Okay, So I felt a lot more sexual connection, a

527
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 4: lot more just like heat around Will with Olivia than

528
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 4: I did with Will with Kylie. I don't know that

529
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 4: I feel Will with Will really likes Kylie at the

530
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: end of this episode.

531
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: But I think the.

532
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 4: Real question here is like how much disrespect was there?

533
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 4: Was it as much as Olivia made it seem because

534
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 4: they kissed and she didn't and he didn't ask for

535
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: like quote permission or at least like have a conversation

536
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: like hey, I might go out with Kylie.

537
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: How much disrespect was there? Because yes, in a perfect world,

538
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: I do think he should have talked to her. But

539
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: at the same time, it.

540
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 4: Was day one, So does day one play a big

541
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: role in the.

542
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 3: Needing to have a conversation before going out with somebody else?

543
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: Just I see both sides. I'm pretty much I'm a

544
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: little bit more on Olivia's side, but I think she

545
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 4: was very dramatic about it. But then again, look who's

546
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 4: talking Ashley, I who said I'm basically in love with

547
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: somebody on day one? So I'm a big hypocrite.

548
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: Sure we all are at some point, So you know,

549
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: I'd have to throw that question to you, is is

550
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: it appropriate or not? I think in the past we've

551
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: talked about Paradise and this conversation always comes up somehow,

552
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: some way while Paradise is airing, was what should they

553
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: have done better? Or what? You know, as we have

554
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: as we look back on that situation and we're able

555
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: to analyze it and judge it from the perspective of

556
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: we've gotten to see the whole thing play out. What

557
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: could have been done better? How do feelings get hurt less?

558
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: Or you know, all of those things. There's always we

559
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: always talk about that during Paradise. For me, personally, I

560
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: don't think he had to tell alv he's going in

561
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: the state. And the reason is because they have not

562
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: defined their relationship at all. It is day one. They

563
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: have not, to my knowledge, said yes, let's be exclusive

564
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: or let's date to figure this out. I mean, isn't

565
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: that what paradise is. It's a jumbling chaos of dating,

566
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: and so on day one, if you're gonna make I mean,

567
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are making out. I

568
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: would assume in the history of Paradise on day one,

569
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: with the drinks start flowing, the water's raging, the sun

570
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: is shining, everybody's looking good, everybody's excited, everybody's all horned up,

571
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: and they're just going down there and making out with

572
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: each other on day one. And then you know, as

573
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: you get farther in the you know, chaos settles and

574
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: you start to figure out what relationships exist and which

575
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: ones don't. But I'm not viewing that makeout as a relationship.

576
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: And so I don't know if he had to ask

577
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: for permission, because I feel like that could get messy

578
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: if every time in paradise. The appropriate thing to do is, Hey,

579
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: you kissed this person and now you get to ask

580
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: on a date and you have to go back to

581
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: the person you just kissed, you know, previously, and said, hey,

582
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 2: is that okay? Like what permission? Are you just telling them? Like, Hey,

583
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on this date. You kind of did

584
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: by getting up and saying that, I don't even.

585
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think she wanted permission to be asked.

586
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: I think she just wanted him to talk to her.

587
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: And it's like, you're just being I don't know, like

588
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: welcome to Paradise is basically what I have to say

589
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 4: about that.

590
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: It's like it's day one and I don't think you

591
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: had for a rookie paradise.

592
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure she's like trying to figure this out too,

593
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: you know what is appropriate?

594
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: Bitter? She was also like she scares me a little bit.

595
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: Well, she's bitter, but she's funny. I think she cares

596
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: a little bit less than what she's leading on. I

597
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: think she's yeah, I think they should have lead into it. Yeah,

598
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: she's leading in leaning into it. I don't think she

599
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: is is as serious about it yet as we think.

600
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think she has like a lot

601
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: of like feelings towards Will. Yet again, it's been hours.

602
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: She's probably super like attracted to him or whatever, but

603
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: I wasn't. This is not this is not going to

604
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: be the biggest controversy of the season. This is gonna

605
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: be something we quickly forget and as of next week

606
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: when contract well, because if they even.

607
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: Thinkvaden because of Aiden coming in.

608
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: So this is my take, Aban I said, Aiden, Wow,

609
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 4: I watched too much Check in the City. Okay, so

610
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: when Avian comes in, I feel like one Kylie very likable.

611
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: I'm excited to watch her to think that she very

612
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: much is jumping in too fast to the Will thing.

613
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: She's showing too much interest because she knows Avan's going

614
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: to show up, and you got a factor in like

615
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: this is day one.

616
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: Everything is exciting, but like.

617
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: You're gonna want to give aid In a chance if

618
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: he was on your list, You're gonna want to always

619
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 4: like get a little flirt on with the person that

620
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: was on your list.

621
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: I mean that, you know, the previews don't show this.

622
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that Will is definitely kicked to

623
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: the curb pretty quick.

624
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

625
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: I think it's actually telling that the ship that the

626
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: previews didn't mention.

627
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: Here's here's what I think happens. And I have no idea,

628
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: but here's what I watched I think happens. After watching

629
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: the preview, Avin comes to the beach. Kylie's interested in Avan.

630
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: She brings that up to him to Avan, Will is

631
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: out of the picture. Then at this point, like the guy,

632
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: the guy has nobody. He's not going back to Olivia.

633
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: Maybe he finds somebody else in the beach that he's into.

634
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: But like Kylie and Will's really ship stops and then

635
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: it's a love triangle with avon Kylie and Olivia. Will's

636
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: out of the picture of that group here, fairly.

637
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: Kicked out of it. There's no square, there's no love square.

638
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: There's no love square. That was my thought is, yeah,

639
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: she brings it up to Will pretty quickly. Hey, yeah,

640
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: this was cool, this was great. But I like the

641
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 2: saving guy, or I want to see what happens. So

642
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: that's why Will is crying because he suddenly left trying

643
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: to find somebody new. Obviously, they're giving out the roses

644
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: in week one, so Will does have the ability to

645
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: stick around, probably or he will be sticking around, so yeah.

646
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: Figure out they're definitely giving out the roses.

647
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: But he but Kylie's out of the picture for him.

648
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: I think you're probably right.

649
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: Anything else we didn't cover, I'd say, Rachel, Recie, you

650
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 4: know we have her kissing Sean. I'll say this a

651
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: little something fun for the podcast. I texted Rachel, I go,

652
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: you look so good in Paradise, Like paradise humidity.

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Speaker 3: Is your vibe? Can I say vibe?

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00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: And then she goes, did I do anything embarrassing? Did

655
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: I kiss anyone? And I got to kiss Sean? And

656
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: she goes, oops, I forgot I did that?

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go?

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00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: You know spoiler alert?

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00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah why not? Hey? Like I said, people go down

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00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: to Paradise and they just start kissing each other. It

661
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: happens every season. They just make it out all the time.

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00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: But I think that's part of it. Everybody's very excited

663
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: to get the beach. Everybody's feeling looking their best at

664
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: this moment. Right. Everybody's clean, like clean and showered within

665
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: the last day. Nobody's sweating yet, and somebody's like, this

666
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: is if I have one day to be But.

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00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: It's still sexy at this point.

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00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, until you know later on in the season where

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00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: it gets really hot and sticky and smelly for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Do people smell on the beach typically Ashley.

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00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: I know things. I don't remember anyone smelling.

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00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 4: But I do remember one other thing that we have

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00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: to talk about before we wrap up this podcast, and

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00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: that is the fact that somebody's getting.

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00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: Married down in Paradise this season.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I don't think it's any former cast,

677
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: So I don't think it's any like former Bachelor in

678
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: Paradise couple going to get married. I think it's like

679
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: somebody in the current cast. No, yeah, I think it's

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00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: I wondered that that's a good question, is who would

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00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: be getting married in Paradise because the couples that from

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00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 2: the past that are engaged now, could it be Kenny

684
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: and Mari Mm?

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00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: I don't think.

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00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: They're going to do the Puerto Rico wedding and then

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00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 4: they're going to do like an American reception or something.

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00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: It's not like off the table. But don't you think

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00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: we would have heard of that about that? I would

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00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 4: they keep that under.

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00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: Wraps for so long?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, So yeah, yeah, that was something.

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00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: That would like have a press release on once they

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00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: filmed it.

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00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: Somebody, somebody's getting married, we just don't know who yet. Now.

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00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: The final statement that I'd like to make is in

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00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: support of somebody on the show. Okay, I am so

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00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: happy that this is not taboo. Right. Four times a

700
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: year I make my way to Central America times, bringing

701
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: groups sometimes not travel is always a very stressful scenario,

702
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: and especially if you're traveling to a place for a

703
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: long period of time. I don't know her name, but

704
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: the girl that hasn't pooped in nine days. I'm glad

705
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: this is being shown on television because this is a

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00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: real thing that we've had to deal with on trips.

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00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: I've been on many times with men and women where

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00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: they become constipated.

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00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: They have to deliver a poop baby.

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00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: Now I've never heard of that.

711
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: Now.

712
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: The turtle is too much. The turtle was too much.

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00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 4: It was kind of hilariously accurate though it was like crazy.

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00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: It.

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00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: Was crazy, but it was too much for me. Like

716
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: it just I didn't need it. Because immediately my mind

717
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: goes to that that is very accurate. I feel bad

718
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: for her because so I just want to skit the

719
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: statement out there on the first episode. I feel bad

720
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: for her because we all know anybody listening knows how

721
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 2: terrible of a feeling that is. Right when that happens

722
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: to you, it's you start to feel sick. Your body's yeah,

723
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: your body starts to kind of like revolt against itself.

724
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: Food doesn't taste good, you're bloated, and then.

725
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: You're going to be on nash in there where food

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00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: doesn't taste good.

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00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: No, well just wait eight days.

728
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: I feel like you've experienced this personal way.

729
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. Like I said, it's I'm glad

730
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: we're talking about it because it's a real thing. And

731
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: I think I feel bad for her because I know

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00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: that she is so embarrassed, Like I'm embarrassed on these

733
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: trips with even like family and friends talking about it sometimes,

734
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: like it's a very uncomfortable scenario to be like, yeah,

735
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sick right now. I'm not in A'm not

736
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: in the way you think. Now she's on national television

737
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 2: on a beach in a bathing suit, trying to date,

738
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: and this is her experience of paradise. I'm sure she

739
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: was so excited to get to the beach, so she

740
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure she was so excited to see who she

741
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: was going to meet, and now her story is going

742
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: to be that they have to deliver a poop baby,

743
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: which I also want to know, what that? How did?

744
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: How do you do that?

745
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like that's so embarrassing.

746
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 4: So I told I've said this on the podcast before,

747
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: and it's okay because Jade has been open about it.

748
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: But that's what happened in Paradise season two. Jade hadn't

749
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 4: gone for a week, maybe even a little bit more,

750
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: and they were like giving her edemas and stuff. Yeah,

751
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: and it eventually happened, I think, but she.

752
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: Had to be open with Tanner about this the entire time.

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00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: Sure, well that's where they got married. I think that

754
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: probably helped these like, uh, we went this far in

755
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: two weeks, we might as well go the whole way.

756
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: Like I know, and I told you last time we

757
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: brought this up.

758
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: I think when they first showed the teaser, the doctor

759
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: there in Paradise last season said like, you'd think that

760
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: we'd be dealing with like diarrhea issues, but actually we

761
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 4: deal with a lot of constipation.

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00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, I just I just I want

763
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: to give our rally our support around her and say, hey,

764
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: you're you're doing great girl, Like.

765
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: Of course, it's happened to the girl who like left

766
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: night one because she was like uncomfortable being in part

767
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: of the experience.

768
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, it's just this show is not working

769
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: out to her favorite But who knows, maybe there are

770
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: some ads that will come her way in support of Yeah,

771
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: mer relax all these things right, shout.

772
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: Out me relax. It got me through my pregnancy problems.

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00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: There you go. Well, hey, very excited for Paradise. Episode

774
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: one lived up to all expectations. I am very excited

775
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: to watch the rest of the season. I think there

776
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 2: are gonna be some great couples made, and I also

777
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: think there's gonna be some great drama that is shown

778
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: and naturally kind of comes out of some of these

779
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: love triangles that we can already start to see forming.

780
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: It's a big time in Bacheloration with the Golden Bachelor,

781
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: which will be breaking down also and Bachelor in Paradise.

782
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: It feels like a very fun season of the show.

783
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: For me. This is cool to see both shows that

784
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm both excited to watch airing so closely together and

785
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: being able to talk about them. Uh, this is this

786
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 2: is a blast and I can't wait. Me too.

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Speaker 4: So, guys, just letting you know, we will have three

788
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 4: episodes in the coming weeks. It'll be the headline episode,

789
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 4: it'll be the Bachelor in Paradise recap episode, and then

790
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: also the Golden Bachelor episode.

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Speaker 2: So stay tuned.

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00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 4: You listen to us, you can be well very kind

793
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: because you might be listening to us a lot, and

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00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 4: we appreciate.

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Speaker 3: You, guys, listening to our voices and our opinions.

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00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Of opinion until very soon.

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Speaker 3: I've been Ashley and.

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00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 2: I've been Ben. We'll talk to you later.

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