WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: Pacers Up 2-0 on Knicks + LeBron All-NBA at 40

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining

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<v Speaker 2>us for another episode of Nightcap. You watch the Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>Pacers do what they did the last series, go on

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<v Speaker 2>the road and take a two oh lead going back

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<v Speaker 2>to Indy. Yes they are, They're up two oh They're

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<v Speaker 2>in a commanding position. You don't see this often, but

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<v Speaker 2>they've done it in back to back series, a commanding

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<v Speaker 2>two to oh lead one fourteen to one oh nine

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to a red hot shooting night from Pascal Siakam

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<v Speaker 2>who had thirty nine big points.

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<v Speaker 3>They have six guys in.

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<v Speaker 2>Double figures like they normally do as a committee team,

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<v Speaker 2>and they win this ball game on the road, one

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen to one oh nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all know who I am?

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<v Speaker 2>our special guest Tonight joining us to break down this

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<v Speaker 2>gang Indiana one one fourteen to one oh nine is

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty one Finals MVP. He's a two time

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<v Speaker 2>champ and he's out of the University of North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>at Charlotte, the number twelve overall draft pick in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy seven draft. Harry is Lady and gentlemen Cedric

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<v Speaker 2>Cornbread Maxwell, we'll get to a second. How you got

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<v Speaker 2>to the game, guys, I want to make an announcement. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>We've decided to postpone the Nightcap Tour. We look forward

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<v Speaker 2>the tour until twenty twenty six. Now let's get into

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<v Speaker 2>this ball game. The Indiana Pacers go on the road. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>remind you they did this to the number one seed.

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<v Speaker 2>The team that won sixty four games in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>They went on the road to Cleveland and they took

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<v Speaker 2>a commanding two o lead on the road, and what

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<v Speaker 2>if they do People might have thought that was a fluke.

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<v Speaker 2>They go on the road again in the conference finals

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<v Speaker 2>and take a two oh lead against a very good

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<v Speaker 2>New York Knicks team, and they do it one fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>to one oh nine, and again six guys in double figures.

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<v Speaker 2>Pascal Siakam was sensational night fifteen of twenty three, shooting

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<v Speaker 2>three or five from the three point line, thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>big points. Neie Smith had twelve, Miles Turner had sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>nim Hard had twelve, Halliburton fourteen and eleven, and they

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<v Speaker 2>got TJ. McConnell in only fourteen minutes. He gave them

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<v Speaker 2>ten big points. That's six guys in double figures, ugging in.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's normally how they do it. Corn Bread. You've

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<v Speaker 2>seen this team play against your Celtics over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is how they normally do it. They might

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<v Speaker 2>have one guy, but normally it's a bunch of teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteen thirteen, sixteen, nineteen, and they did it again tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>When you watch this game, corn bread, What was it?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it that the Pacers are doing or is

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<v Speaker 2>it something they're doing or that something the Knicks aren't doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's something that the Celtics are doing. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the Celtics. That's what I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know something I think that the Pacers are doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what the Pacers are doing really well. They're

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<v Speaker 4>moving to basketball and then move bodies. The body the

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<v Speaker 4>ball does not stick as much, and because of that,

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<v Speaker 4>defensively cannot rotate and trap as much. That happens when

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<v Speaker 4>the Knicks to playing other teams, the ball sticks and

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<v Speaker 4>their defense becomes that much more fluid and they can

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<v Speaker 4>do damage that way. So when you move that basketball

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<v Speaker 4>and you move bodies, the Knicks don't move as well.

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<v Speaker 3>He physically, that's of the team step.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching this game, Ocholl, I was looking at it early

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<v Speaker 2>and I saw like the Pacers got out to a

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<v Speaker 2>good lead, and then the Knicks go on this run,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking at this game at the half, I'm like, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>I think y'all in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they are y'all in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, because they've walked you down from fourteen with

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<v Speaker 2>under three minutes and now you got a Nipton Tuck

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<v Speaker 2>ball game. And the thing that the Pacers do, they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna play with They're going to play with pace. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going to push the ball. Whether you make the shot,

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<v Speaker 2>Brad or you missed the shot, they are all pushing Halla

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<v Speaker 2>Burnon looking to get that ball ahead to see Yakam

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<v Speaker 2>de nise Mith, Myles Turners. Because they run the floor

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<v Speaker 2>and like you said, they do a great job of movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't have a guy that you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Him the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have a dominant guy a Luca or or

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Tatum or one of these great shade that got

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<v Speaker 2>to have the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>On a given night, it could be one of either

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<v Speaker 2>six guys that can beat their leading scorer. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult to defend. Jalen Brunston is averaging almost forty

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<v Speaker 2>points a game, eight assists the game, and he's shooting

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four percent. Yet they find themselves down oh two,

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<v Speaker 2>oh Joe. When you're looking at the Knicks and you

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<v Speaker 2>I think you picked the Knicks to win, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it that you're seeing what's been most disappointing

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<v Speaker 2>from you.

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<v Speaker 1>For you, I mean well for the Knicks obviously, I

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<v Speaker 1>need I need more people to contribute, you know. At

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<v Speaker 1>the half, I mean with Jayalen Brunson doing what he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to do, mckil Bridges was okay, and nobody came

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<v Speaker 1>along and in the second half. But the Pacers are

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<v Speaker 1>winning collectively as a group. Uh, everybody's being able to contribute.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's too much press on Jayden Bronson to

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<v Speaker 1>keep them in the game regards the Pacers can pass

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and no, they keep the ball moving offensively

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<v Speaker 1>them in training, the Pacers in transition running up and

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<v Speaker 1>down the floor. I think everyone else has to contribute

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Cat, I mean where the cat have night?

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<v Speaker 3>Cat had twenty points on six to fourteen, shooting fourteen shots.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't enough, not not not even close. Bridges had eighteen shots. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>now be down, I'll be down two and the whole

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about we. I'm just saying pacimply because I

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<v Speaker 3>picked the next to win this series. They God damn

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<v Speaker 3>Halliburton man. Listen. He was very official night.

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<v Speaker 1>He only had fourteen points, but still his shot selection

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<v Speaker 1>and when he chose to shoot, oh, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Just chah, Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, cheh stick of

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<v Speaker 4>for ki. They're done.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you're going already then stoll it that I already? Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 3>they're done. I mean, I don't I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 4>You look at them the first game they lost, that's psychologically,

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<v Speaker 4>it does a lot of damage.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you come back and you play okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>you lose the second gate.

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<v Speaker 4>Where are the people that were rocking the something bust

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<v Speaker 4>the other day when I was on it, when when

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<v Speaker 4>we did that, they were trying to tipple over those

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<v Speaker 4>same five people left out there like Church Mount. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think that you look at the Knicks, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a team that plays with emotion. What they've done they

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<v Speaker 4>take them they've taken the emotion out. You said something

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<v Speaker 4>about the pace that they run. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 4>what happened during nineteen eighty four. I swear to God

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<v Speaker 4>it's how it happened. We played the Lakers in Game three.

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<v Speaker 4>They beat us so bad, we scored I didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>think Magic took.

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<v Speaker 3>The ball out of bound. He was right behind them.

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<v Speaker 3>They take it out a bound? What mean? But that's

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<v Speaker 3>what great teams do.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't allow you to get back in a position

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<v Speaker 4>of resting, and that's what the Knicks want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to rest.

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<v Speaker 4>But as long as you attack them and you make

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<v Speaker 4>them play on the defensive end, and you make Carl

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<v Speaker 4>Anthony times accountable, you make Bruston accountable on the defensive end.

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<v Speaker 4>That is what Hurston Knickson. Who's going who you're looking

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<v Speaker 4>at OVERDEVI? Who's going to score? After that?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Corporate?

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<v Speaker 2>You said something very interesting, you say at the team

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<v Speaker 2>that plays on the motion and they lost that first game.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was they lost the first

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<v Speaker 2>game or how they lost the first game, because we

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen a whole lot of teams lose games like

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<v Speaker 2>that when they have such a lead with that few

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<v Speaker 2>that with that amount of time on the clock. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like one four hundred and forty seven when somebody

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<v Speaker 2>has a nine point lead with like fifty something seconds

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<v Speaker 2>to go in the ball game. And they lost that

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<v Speaker 2>ball game, and they come out and they really couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get any separation. They could never get build up a

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<v Speaker 2>ten point lead or fourteen point lead like they did

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<v Speaker 2>in Game one. So now everybody in that building they're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to e rup the loudest I saw them is

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<v Speaker 2>when when Brunson hit that three and they get within

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<v Speaker 2>three points with like thirty seconds to go in the

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<v Speaker 2>ball game. Priord to that, they were like just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like hoping something could go their way so they could

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<v Speaker 2>get into the ballgame. Wh Why are we so surprised

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<v Speaker 2>by this?

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about what did they do when they played

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland the same game.

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<v Speaker 3>They get back at the end of the game and

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<v Speaker 3>they won.

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<v Speaker 4>Rick carliss I played with Rick Carlile as a young player. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he was always somebody who got at it and he

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<v Speaker 4>was at a high pace and he made guys accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>He does that with this team.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem that the Knicks have is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you look at that Pacer team, they have championship DNA?

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<v Speaker 3>Has it? Si Ill come has it?

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<v Speaker 4>Who over there on the Knicks has that championship DNA

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<v Speaker 4>or you're going to fall to at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the huge problem for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Their team right now that's played with great and most

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<v Speaker 4>and they've been lucky that we're lucky to beat the

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<v Speaker 4>Subjects twice in those first two games in Boston. But

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<v Speaker 4>now Chickens have come home to the roots now.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jalen Brunton in Game two thirty six points, eleven

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<v Speaker 2>assists on five May threes.

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<v Speaker 3>Only MJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron has more thirty five point Tennessee playoff games in

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<v Speaker 2>the Eastern Conference. Jaylen Brust, like I said in game

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<v Speaker 2>one and two, he's averaging almost forty thirty nine and

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<v Speaker 2>a half eight assists on fifty four percent shooting. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's over corn Brand. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>in order for them to have a chance, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>to win game three.

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<v Speaker 3>The man is over. We've seen them go on the

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<v Speaker 3>road and you've always talked about your bread.

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<v Speaker 1>What she did when she went to check me, what

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<v Speaker 1>did she do? She stuck a cork in it. If

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<v Speaker 1>any blood came out, if any blood came out, up,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't done right.

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<v Speaker 3>What the Knicks are I ain't known.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that I really hated the Laker fans and

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<v Speaker 4>the Laker fan base. They have nothing on the arrogance

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<v Speaker 4>of the Knicks when they're when they want this jokers

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<v Speaker 4>having And I said that the Steve may snipper, I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what, act like they've been there before.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, oh, Hold on a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>They haven't lay three last time they won the championship.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in nice school. It is my senior year.

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<v Speaker 1>I bring to turn seventy years old, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sending anything bad about them.

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<v Speaker 3>They played hard. I like what Brunston does.

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<v Speaker 4>I like what they've done with their team, But I

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<v Speaker 4>just think the Pacers right now are the better of

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<v Speaker 4>the two teams, executing, especially at the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 4>and when it really counts.

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<v Speaker 3>They've done it twice. Yeah, I think the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, corn bread, and you're not giving the

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<v Speaker 1>next any chance to come back in regards to how

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacers play, despite how they look, the passing games,

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks, you know, for for that matter, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>give them any chance to come back.

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<v Speaker 3>And make this a series. Chad, let's go on, let's

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<v Speaker 3>only to drink beer.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's that's better case, okay, me and you. I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't see them getting back, especially on the emotional end.

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<v Speaker 3>This team plays.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the way they play, Tips has them playing hard.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you get to Indiana team playing the way

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<v Speaker 4>they are right now, going home smelling blood, smelling blood,

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<v Speaker 4>what we've seen this team do so far this year

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<v Speaker 4>when they smel blood, they turned the Sharks niece Smmphi

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<v Speaker 4>has been big knocking down shots. This isn't like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not wishing them bad luck, but I

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<v Speaker 4>just see again one team that executes a lot better

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of those games, and they won two games,

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<v Speaker 4>and we shouldn't be surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the thing is it was concerning for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and don't Joe you and I talked about this with

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<v Speaker 2>Joda other night, is that you got what you got

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<v Speaker 2>from Cat. You got thirty plus points from Cat, you

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<v Speaker 2>got forty three points from Brunton, and you still lost.

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<v Speaker 2>So if my big good hey corporate, you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>now hold on, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Two big guys just went off.

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<v Speaker 2>If we still beat y'all, what's the likelihood of y'all

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<v Speaker 2>doing this four, five, six times, six more times?

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<v Speaker 3>The likelihood is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Brunston averaging forty three, I don't see that happening,

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<v Speaker 2>Cat averaging thirty six. I don't see that happening. And

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<v Speaker 2>we saw what happened tonight. The difference is they're so

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<v Speaker 2>dependent on Brunson. You see the pacers.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know who was gonna be their leading scorer

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<v Speaker 3>night tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>You can bet ninety eight percent of the time their

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<v Speaker 2>leading score is gonna be Jaylen Brunson.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all know what do you have one of the top

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<v Speaker 3>rated shows.

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<v Speaker 1>The way you're analyzing this thing, you wouldn't think you

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<v Speaker 1>were a damn Laker fan.

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<v Speaker 3>You you really were, and you know, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>I hate you because of that. When I ain't a

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<v Speaker 3>Laker fan, I'm a Lebron fan. Well, I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>if you were. You're still wearing that purple and gold,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hate to see it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that I used to be a Celtic fan,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, growing up. Blood was my favorite player. Joined

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<v Speaker 5>the crowd. Then come on back. Let me say, come

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<v Speaker 5>on back home, come on back. No worry about that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I love Lebron. I think he's done so much

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<v Speaker 5>for this league.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, And I'm kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of like you, I kind of wonder why people hating

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<v Speaker 4>on him so much for what he's done, especially when

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<v Speaker 4>it's off the court. You know all the things he's

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<v Speaker 4>done on the but off the court, he's been brilliant.

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<v Speaker 4>He hasn't been in any trouble. He's gotten kids that

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<v Speaker 4>go he's a great role model. So again I don't

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<v Speaker 4>understand that hatred or Lebron, although I did hate Magic

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<v Speaker 4>like that and I still do.

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<v Speaker 3>Say so, that's a whole nother story. And you look

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<v Speaker 3>at it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Knixtles Miles Bridge, you played forty five minutes, Og

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<v Speaker 2>played thirty six. Jaylen Brunson played thirty nine, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a far cry for what they did the other night. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the game win the overtime, so you had an

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<v Speaker 2>extra five minutes. So you got forty eight minutes in

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<v Speaker 2>regulation plus another five that's fifty three.

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<v Speaker 3>But those guys played heavy minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised that more guys didn't play heavy minutes like

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<v Speaker 2>Og wasn't in the forties, Cat wasn't in the forties.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Hart only played twenty nine minutes. I thought, Josh Hart,

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<v Speaker 2>he's really Josh Hart does a little bit of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>He rebounds, he plays defense, he scores, he assists the basketball.

0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.280
<v Speaker 2>He had one assist, he had one steal, he had

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<v Speaker 2>one block, and he had six rebounds at six points.

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<v Speaker 4>If he does not put his fingerprint on this series

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<v Speaker 4>and the two games, hey, honey, giving me a broom instead,

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<v Speaker 4>I need to give your brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, And I love Josh Hart.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing I love about him he could have played

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<v Speaker 4>during days because yes, he's tough minded, he goes in,

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<v Speaker 4>he's scrappled and against the Celtics, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Had an imprint on all those games, knocking down shots,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't rebound. But in this game, the smash game, Churnhart

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even effective.

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<v Speaker 3>And he is a heart and.

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<v Speaker 4>Soul of what they do emotionally, and they don't get

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<v Speaker 4>it from him.

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<v Speaker 3>Who else did they gonna get it from?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know he only had he has six points,

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<v Speaker 2>but he got two of those in the last thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seconds when he got that late layoup. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>surprised that. I mean, because you got twenty from Bridge,

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay. I can live with that. You got sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>from Og only on eleven shots. You got twenty from

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<v Speaker 2>Cat on fourteen shots. He needs to be somewhere around

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen to twenty two shots. And his damn self, Jalen Brunson,

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<v Speaker 2>you know he's a volume guy. Thirteen to twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>He did what he was supposed to do, Jayleen us

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<v Speaker 2>and did what he was supposed to do. Now, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>and if Josh Hart gives you somewhere at fourteen like

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<v Speaker 2>he normally does, like we know he can. But like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, I agree with you, corn Bread, his in

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<v Speaker 2>print six rebounds, that's not nearly enough. One assist, one steel,

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<v Speaker 2>one block. That's not the Josh Hart. Josh Hart is

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere around eight to twelve points a game, double digit rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>like seven to nine assists, if not a triple double.

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<v Speaker 3>He's that it ain't personal.

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<v Speaker 1>You add adda on that getting steals make him mixing

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<v Speaker 1>it up in this In this last game, essentially he

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<v Speaker 1>was never involved. And that's not the way he put

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<v Speaker 1>because you know what he is. He's an energy guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a high energy got And when you don't have

0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the energy guy go over there giving you points or

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<v Speaker 1>rebounds or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's now what you need to do. Oh chill, go

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<v Speaker 4>over there on that bench. Go down that bench. There's

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<v Speaker 4>about five or six other guys down there. Find me,

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<v Speaker 4>find me two or three points? Can you find me

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<v Speaker 4>any points out of there?

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<v Speaker 3>Kids is on it. But here's the thing, corn and

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<v Speaker 3>O Joe we talked about this the other night with Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>They only gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Play seven guys, eight guys at the max, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Mitchell Robinson, he's he's only gonna get your put backs

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<v Speaker 2>and he's gonna get your lob, so you're not running

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<v Speaker 2>any offense for it, so you really can't really count him.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, Mitchell, can you give us ten to twelve?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna run five alley hoops five lobs and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get five putbacks? I don't think so, but

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<v Speaker 2>they look to file him to break the next momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised he played as many minutes as he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about it, he played more minutes than Cat.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've never seen a guy as Patrick Fry

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<v Speaker 4>going to the line. I mean, you would think that

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<v Speaker 4>that is that's his last meal.

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<v Speaker 3>You're thinking that you don't walk that ball. He's about

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<v Speaker 3>to get fouled.

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<v Speaker 4>He can't. And it's smart. And this is what I

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<v Speaker 4>love about the paces. That's how smart they played.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah they did. And then a key stretch there, Robinson

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<v Speaker 3>was in the game and they came in and they

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<v Speaker 3>filed him, and the momentum mark smart team.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet smart teams do that, bo't you guys played football?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what momentum is absolutely money if you either

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<v Speaker 3>have it or you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have it all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at your ass out and this is that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Knicks right now are pretty much that well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm surprised that Mitchell Robinson played as many minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>He played the same amount of minutes as Josh Hart's.

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<v Speaker 2>He played a one more minute more than Cat Miles

0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.919
<v Speaker 2>McBride played twenty five minutes. And they only play eight guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And you go look at it, you go look at

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<v Speaker 2>the pacers. They played one, two, three, four, five, six.

0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:33.320
<v Speaker 2>They played eleven guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean your feet, Yeah, that's that's such bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>There are about six guys over there on that bench.

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<v Speaker 4>They scored by as many points as I did tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be here with me because because those guys were

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<v Speaker 1>never involved in the game. Oh show you know how

0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.399
<v Speaker 1>it is. Sometimes you have guys who are real players.

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<v Speaker 1>Some guys you can have who are perpetrated. Some guys

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<v Speaker 1>know when the big games happened, I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Saw I'm seeing you up, Saul.

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<v Speaker 1>She hadn't played before and in the big games, hey

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<v Speaker 1>look you're stepping up.

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<v Speaker 3>But then there's some guys in the big games they

0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 3>don't want to be They don't want that ball, but

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:20.879
<v Speaker 3>they don't want you found it. Yeah, so what do

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<v Speaker 3>you what do you think? What do you think, Tims?

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<v Speaker 1>Does I mean you there's only only five or sixty

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.280
<v Speaker 1>sixty seven players like I said, that actually played.

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.240
<v Speaker 3>Does he does he change up the lineup?

0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Does he add allow people to play so you can

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<v Speaker 1>get those two or three points that you might need

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<v Speaker 1>that can help you down a stretch?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Tims? Is it like that?

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.359
<v Speaker 4>Tims was in Boston with Paul Pierce in that group

0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.560
<v Speaker 4>and they go with the rotation and he's solid. This

0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.479
<v Speaker 4>is the people who got him there, this is what

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<v Speaker 4>he's done, and these are the people he's gonna go with.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean, I'm looking over there that celted

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.000
<v Speaker 4>at the roster, and I'm looking at the next and

0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think right now, I think, why are

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<v Speaker 4>some of the those nick you know, old school Claire's

0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.320
<v Speaker 4>finally on the floor, right, I mean, I look at some.

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Of them guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, damn, why why is that doing right

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.399
<v Speaker 1>there on the floor. Maybe he should get grab one

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:11.920
<v Speaker 1>of those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>My good buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Bernarkis he could care some parts. But now burnof burnt

0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Off mees bad. Nah, no, hey, hey Corbraend. You know

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.119
<v Speaker 2>burnt Off. These were bad when he was twenty nine thirty,

0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you know the shot down in sixty five.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw him walking down the arena. I was like, damn, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I go back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hated him as a player too, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really felt bad when that's the thing thing seeing some

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<v Speaker 1>of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Things right now that have happened. But the knicks, they're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to find a formula or gonna have to

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.199
<v Speaker 4>grab one of those guys at the end of the

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 4>bench and try to gather spark. Tims is gonna have

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.440
<v Speaker 4>to change what he does because what he's doing right

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<v Speaker 4>now with the two games you're closed.

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Did you guys know close comes in horseshoes and nuclear war.

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:02.119
<v Speaker 3>That's the only the only way of horse clothes comes in.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just don't think that this team right now

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<v Speaker 4>has enough at the end of the day going in.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like when I saw you look at the stat

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:12.080
<v Speaker 4>sheet before we came on. You know, you were looking

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<v Speaker 4>down like somebody had just on the statue.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I said, dude, But if you notice look

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.720
<v Speaker 6>at the teams that have deep benches, look at OKC.

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Look how many people. Look how many people Minnesota play?

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.080
<v Speaker 2>You see Oka see playing ten eleven people, Indiana playing

0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 2>ten eleven people.

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.480
<v Speaker 3>You burn them out. Because Tims played those guys.

0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Heavy minutes in the regular season, So you can imagine

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 2>now they went they Now they had a short series

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 2>with Boston, but they had a very long theories or

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:49.680
<v Speaker 2>with Detroit, and they had to play heavy minutes. Even

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 2>though it was a short series, they played heavy minutes.

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 3>And so now they're.

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:57.639
<v Speaker 4>Coming physical, physical minutes. Yes, that's the thing you talk about.

0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 4>You add physicality anywhere with long minutes, man, that doubles

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.200
<v Speaker 4>the output of what you're talking about, being physical.

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 2>And there's something called ex expectations. So you see the

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Knicks didn't have these expectations when they played Boston. Boston

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 2>was the prohibitive favorite. Now, how does it feel you're

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 2>no longer the hunter, you're the hunted.

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all as they say, when we playing all funny games,

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 4>until the damn rabbit gets the damn gun. Yeah, that's

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 4>how it goes out. So I look at this team

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 4>and the Knicks were they played well. Detroit had a

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.119
<v Speaker 4>chance to beat them, Boston did at Boston had a

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 4>chance to beat them, but they played well enough that

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 4>they won. Now, as you said, they are, they are

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 4>the darlings of the city, right, the darlings of the city.

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 4>So now the expectations you talk about is on some

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 4>of these guys shoulder, and it looks like it might

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 4>just be a little heavy match.

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 2>First time going to of the NBA finals and since

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<v Speaker 2>what twenty five and a quarter century or everybody's talking

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 2>about that. Oh man, this might be our chance to

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 2>get our first championship in fifty plus years. Everybody's looking

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 2>at that, and so you're looking You're looking plass ended,

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 2>oh like, and is looking at it like, hell, this

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.640
<v Speaker 2>is our first chance to go to the NBA Finals

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 2>in twenty plus years.

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<v Speaker 3>Two we ain't never won one. You're right. I love

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 3>the look on John Stark's face today.

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 4>I was like, here, it's just trippled over.

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 3>And these were the same guys and your guy BERNARTI text.

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<v Speaker 4>Me after the game that the Knicks won the first

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 4>two text me say, keep your head up, big fella.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be.

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<v Speaker 2>Rub it rubbing it in, you know, or makes you laugh,

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 2>makes you cry something absolutely well. The all the NBA

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 2>teams were just announced on the first team All NBA,

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 2>Giannis Unto, Takumpo, Shake Gilles, Alexander, Nicola, Jokic, Donovan, Mitchell, Jason,

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Any surprises there.

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:04.919
<v Speaker 3>No, I think those guys.

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:09.120
<v Speaker 4>To me, uh Tatum was great, Shaye was the NB.

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 4>And you can look at Jok's jokis right now maybe

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 4>the best, maybe the best player that one of the

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 4>best players we've seen at that position.

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 3>And no offense. I love Karee, I love Kareem, I

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:21.640
<v Speaker 3>love well.

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 4>But when you look at Jokic, his body at work,

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 4>what he's saying, he said he's turned into a monster.

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 2>I thought you was about to say, maybe he's the

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>best player in the game. I can say you could

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>drop that, mate, Oh yeah, he is the best player

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>now he's working on work, when he's done. The question

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>is where do we put it? Because you mentioned, you

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 2>mentioned Shot, you mentioned Russell, you mentioned Will, you mentioned

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Kareem Okay, Elijah on Moses.

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Whatever the case may be.

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm his name six guys who many believe are six

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 2>of the best centers they ever played the game, David Robinson,

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.360
<v Speaker 2>whoever the case may be. When it's all said done,

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 2>where are we going to put Nicola?

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 4>This is why I will change it with yok He

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 4>is the best player right now. But what he doesn't do,

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't control the defensive end. What made That's what

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 4>made Elijah One to me and I played, the greatest

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 4>player ever to play the game is a cheam Olaja one.

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you why, because he did it on

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 3>both ends.

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 4>Controls his man defensively his man, but a king controlled

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 4>the game on both ends of the floor like nobody

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 4>else has ever done both ends. Not one in Russell

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 4>controlled it on the defensive bent. Uh, you know, we'll

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 4>control it on the offensive bed. You look all the

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 4>other but you look at Elijah One. There is nobody

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 4>like that. That young African that I played with, that

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 4>was I thought he was killing lines.

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 3>The way he played, he was. He was.

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 2>He was special. He was he was because like you said,

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 2>he could do it all. He hey to fade away,

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 2>he had to drop step. He had the moves. Oh man,

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>hey fake here, and next thing you know, he's dunking

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 2>it over there.

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and the defensive man.

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 1>But that's right, and then and deep this and that

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>he is blocking shots. He's he was leading the league

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>in Still he's one of the few guys in the

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>NBA history that had a quadruple though.

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 2>You remember the first one they had Tom Brandy, he

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>had it and they ended up taking the rebound away

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:30.479
<v Speaker 2>from him, so he didn't get it.

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 3>He came back the next night, two nights later and

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 3>got another one. I'm gonna do it, you know what,

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.199
<v Speaker 3>take it from me. I'm gonna show you how to

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 3>get it done again. Yeah.

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 2>The second Team All NBA team Jaylen Bronson, Steph Curry,

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 2>and Edwards Lebron, James Evan Mobley. You remember trug Brady.

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 2>The way they used to do it. They used to

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 2>take two guards. They used to take a center and

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>a small and a bit. Now they say, if it's positionless,

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 2>you might have five guards be all fer Team all

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the NBA. You might have five bigs be first team

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>All NBA. Because if you look, you basically got you

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 2>got three three guards with Brunson, Curry and uh a man,

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>and then you get basically got, you know, two forwards

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Lebron and Eman Mobley.

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 4>The game has the game has changed from what I live,

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Uh in my my era, you know, I had one

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 4>three for my entire career. I look at Steph Curry, right, now,

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 4>Steph Curry as much as I, you know, think about him,

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 4>he changed the game.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 3>He has changed the game.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 4>I talked to his dad and I said, man, yes, son,

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I hate the fact he's changed again. He's destroyed the

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 4>NBA the where and his dad said, you know what,

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 4>there are a lot of shot takers, but not a

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 4>lot of shot maker. And when you think about that boy,

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 4>his quick release he's handling under basketball. I didn't see

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 4>it coming. I asked his dad, and I said, did

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 4>you see him being na good?

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 3>That saidenough? I didn't see this.

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 4>So the second team you picked up, I think you could,

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, could easily say that. That followed by chat

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Hungary for the guy, I might want to put it

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 4>in there because of the record that Minnesota had, that

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 4>might happen, but they did have another guy to make it.

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh the third team All NBA selection with Kay Cunningham.

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Because he was an All NBA selection, he gets another

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 2>forty five million dollars added to his max contract that

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>he signed last off season. Ohoe, Tyrese Hallibert, Okay James Harden, Kat,

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Karl Anthony Towns, and last but not least, Jaln Williams.

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 2>So Okay, se did have two guys to make the

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>All NBA team, and remember lou Dort made the All

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Defensive team. So they got three guys that's on that's

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 2>an All NBA selection, Two on basically the offensive side,

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the other two or the other one on the defensive side.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 4>Here's the thing that I love about that. But my

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 4>eight is the fact the NBA rules salary caps is

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 4>going to destroy that particular team because you can't keep

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 4>that team together.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no no no.

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 4>Okay, see, so you're gonna make it so that you know,

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 4>I love SuperTeams.

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 3>I didn't like the Lakers when they're winning, obviously, but.

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I love the Bulls and you know, I love the

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 4>dominant teams like that. But you know, now because you

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 4>have the salary cap structures and the aprons that they

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 4>talk about, OKC is not going.

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 2>To have all those guys. They made it costs prohibited.

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 2>They didn't want any more super teams anymore. Why why

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you love super teams? But they but Corean see, and

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 2>that's what I tell people, see because a lot of

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>time they say, oh, Lebron, did I say they were

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>always super teams?

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 3>What the hell do you think the Lakers were. What

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 3>do you think the Celtics weren't in the eighties? Bill

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 3>ain't super team?

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 2>You talk about Bird, McHale, Parish djuh or they had

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 2>tiny Archiba.

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 3>One year they had Bill Walton, who was the sixth man.

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 3>I got who I got traded for?

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Bill Walker? Yeah? Damn that heard her? And you got

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 3>and you got magic?

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Thinking about you got magic, Kareem James Worthy, you got

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Michael Thompson, you got Jamorrow.

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Come on, people, that was a super team.

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>See hair as the thing people like if you if

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>the if the general manager put a super team together,

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>we're okay with that. We don't want the player to say, well,

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>you know what I like corn bread? Hey man, I

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 2>like bread too, and ojo, what you think about going

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>to join bread over there?

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Such and such? No, they don't like that.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 2>But if a team, but if the general manager puts

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it together, we got no problem with that.

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Well, how do you feel right now? You're oho phil

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 4>about what happened in Dallas? Dallas goes away, gets Drina Luca.

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 4>That ain't like that, big fella? How does that taste?

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 3>The boy?

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh get rid of Luca? And then they turn around

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and they get the kid from Duke this team, and

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be dangerous next year.

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 3>They are if they.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Can get healthy and you got Kyrie Irvin coming back,

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 4>that team could be really dangerous.

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 3>And to me, what it does is pushes the Lakers

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 3>that much further down. I don't want to see. I want.

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Hey, But let me ask you this. The Mavericks do

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>have that first pick. Now, there's gonna be a conversation

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>sometime in the coming days between Jannis and Milwaukee's front office.

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Would you be willing to part with that number and

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>overall draft pick for an opportunity to bring Yiannis and

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>pair him with a D and Kyrie when he comes.

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Back by by first round draft choice.

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Look, I don't know what Cooper might do, but I

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 4>know what Jannis is stupid. So if I had a

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 4>chance to do it and reset my program, and if

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 4>you're Milwaukee, you know you're gonna lose Jannis, Yeah, I

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 4>go out, I make that trade, I grab some pieces,

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 4>and I get ready for the future.

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 3>But you know in that case.

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I make that deal all day because we know

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>what Yianniss can't we doing. He's a proven Prather Shannon,

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe that's what he is. He's a he's not

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>he's not a bus rider. He's a damn bus driver.

0:32:57.920 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 3>And that happened.

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, right, I got a question for you. Let's

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>say they get rid of a Cooper flag. Right, let us

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>go to the bucks. Did Giannas come in and automatic, automatically,

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>automatically make the MAVs a championship contender?

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 4>I think yeah, yeah, because one thing he's gonna bring

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 4>in that physicality.

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 3>That's something that the MAVs have not.

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>So you say you get if you get him, you

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>get Anthony Davis, and you get Caybrie.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Those guys healthy and put together, being all day.

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 4>I'll look at the maths right now, and and I

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 4>don't come and hear anybody that noise him. I said, fire, Nico, fire, good, exactly, good.

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Job, Nico.

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's a question I have to ask you, since you

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you know you you're a pretty physical guy. What what

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna go ahead and grab the guy who

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>came to LA and take him out and run him

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>up and down the beach.

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna go out and grab you saw you saw it.

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>He's been in him. He eat his wife preparing good

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 2>meals for him. You see that. Yeah, he's be his body.

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 2>He's starting to look good.

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 3>You can you know what, you can prepare the meal.

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 3>But Oliver Miller when he played down in Phoenix, there

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 3>you go, and then he was running the fight.

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>He had a ball boy going getting them hamburgers. So

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.919
<v Speaker 1>until I see, until I see him, until I see

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>him in that position, Luca, you know he.

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Has to be in shape.

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.919
<v Speaker 4>And I would eat and look, he's around the place

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 4>where you're gonna get in shape. And the stars, the bodies,

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 4>Lebron James, the best we've seen.

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 3>Right now staying in shape. You're there.

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I grab one of you guys right now,

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 4>said man, I give you a million dollars, just take

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 4>me on a program and regiment to get my body

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 4>in shape.

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I got you, Okay, okay.

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>But you know the thing, Corbra, and I tell people

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.240
<v Speaker 2>this all the time, It's easy to get in shape

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 2>in the off season. It's like it's in a basketball player.

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 2>It's getting in late at night, at three o'clock in

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 2>the morning and making the right decisions.

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 3>I ain't gonna eat no pizza. I'm not gonna eat

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 3>nothing fast food. I'm not gonna eat anything processed. So

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 3>that's the problem that the gods have.

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 2>They get off their game and they grab chicken and

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not baked or it's not you know, it's not roasted.

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Share and that's that's not true. That's not true. I

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 4>hate the bunch of bubble.

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 1>But now they have meals prepared for them after they

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want that.

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 3>No, a lot of them eating.

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>A lot of them come off the we a lot

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>of them come in on the bus and they have

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>meals which you're prepared for.

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 3>So the guys don't eat like we did during the eighties.

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Nineteen eighty four, getting ready to play the Lakers, I

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>had a big Mac, a supersize my fried, a large

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>orange soda.

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 4>And this is before the damn game. So that's how

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 4>we ate during that time. Players have an opportunity.

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>It was I look at these guys now, they have

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they have a chef in the morning, they have dinner,

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>they have lunch, cook form, they have dinner after the game.

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't even know why they get pretty him.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, to me, is amazing the way and I

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 4>love it. I'm not joiced to though. I love the

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 4>way our players are being taken care of.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, Joe, we had this conversation. Think about it.

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 2>In the NFL, they get breakfast prepared for him, they

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>get much prepared for him, and they get dinner prepared

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.399
<v Speaker 2>after they watch after their meeting and to take home

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>with them. How can you be out of shape? And

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 2>with all that state of the art equipment they got.

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 2>They got fifthy old, they got massages, therapist, they got cryo,

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 2>they got an infrared corporate, they got every I'm talking

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>about state. When I say state of the art, I'm

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 2>talking about fifty and seventy five one hundred million dollar facilities.

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 3>There's no reason hold on.

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>But you know, know everything you just said, cor On

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Brad to them everything I'm just said. They have a

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>state of arder everything. They have everything that they need

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>at their backing call. But for some reason, I don't

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:55.240
<v Speaker 1>know why, more injuries. Injuries are more prevalent today. Everyone's

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>seen getting hurt. Corn Bread.

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 3>I remember back in the day, and matter of fact,

0:36:58.840 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm not too far from you.

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, he used to play outside when

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>he was young and go in the house and get

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>your let ask water doing the summer. No, what's your

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>what's your grandmad your mama told you go drink the

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>water holes on the side of the house.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, getting hurt right then.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand what the problem old school and I

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 4>and and here's the thing. I look at the Boston

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Sells have one of the best players around be Jason Tatum.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.919
<v Speaker 4>The thing I felt like Jay said Tatum got hurt.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't because he didn't train hard enough. I just

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 4>think he played too much basketball. He played during the Olympics,

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 4>he played during the Championship. And here's my true belief.

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 4>If you don't rest your body, your body's gonna rest

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 4>you and I and and you have the you've seen

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 4>it before when when you and I played. I know

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 4>when I played during the eighties, when we got through

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 4>playing the boys who tell us, man, take three months off,

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 4>don't do it? We tell you now, these guys go

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 4>year round and uncle and the old show. I tell you,

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:58.800
<v Speaker 4>this is what I hate.

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I hate the fact that they damn changing jerseys and

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.439
<v Speaker 1>laughing at each other jerseys walk.

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 3>I hate that. Oh my god, I hate that. I

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 3>hate that. There's nothing I hate more than that.

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 4>Nineteen eight, nineteen eighty three, we're playing uh uh, we're

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 4>playing the seventy sixths in the exhibition game in Knoxville, Tennessee.

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>We went and we won the game. We went and

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>got in the restaurant. We went there and ate the

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>seventy sixers got there after us. They saw that we

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>were there. They hated us up bad. They left the

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.919
<v Speaker 1>damn restaurant. Didn't need That's how I just thought they were.

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, because they one y'all have this had y'all

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 2>down three to one, and y'all came back.

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 3>You remember that player, they remember Belling.

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>We did Washington.

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 3>This is how it goes on like this.

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 2>They did they I thought the I thought the boss

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 2>and Strangler Andrew toldy I thought he.

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 3>I thought. I thought they had y'all. I thought they

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 3>had you bring you he was. He was absolutely a beast. Yeah,

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 3>And I talked.

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 4>To I was talking to a couple of the seventy sixers,

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 4>guys mo chicks in particularly. He said, Man, I've never

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 4>played in a more physical series than we had. They're

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 4>in the eighties and those were just great series that

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:19.959
<v Speaker 4>if you go back and you to them, these games

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.359
<v Speaker 4>won by everyone, was won by one or two points,

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 4>two points. The last last five games we played the

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 4>separation was about six points, So yeah, there were physical games.

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 4>I understand it's a different era and I love these guys,

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 4>but man, the money that these guys make, now, it

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't it shouldn't it should be no issue.

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if I've ever seen this before.

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 2>You had four unanimous selections on the All NBA team.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Giannis was a unanimous he got one hundred first place votes,

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Shaye was a unanimous one hundred first place vote, Nikola

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Jokic one hundred first place votes, Jason Tatum one hundred

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 2>first place votes.

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, core man, somebody got have some balls and

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>break away from that. Please, ain't nobody could go one

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent? Shannon, you're old toel No, ain't nobody go

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent of nothing? Come on, ask your question,

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>ask your question? What power forward you giving a vote

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and taking it from your honest? What guard you taking

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a vote from and giving it?

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:21.720
<v Speaker 3>What guard you? What shade?

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>You're taking a vote from shade and giving it to

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 2>somebody else? Okay, what big are you taking a vote

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>from NICOLEA. Jokic and giving him to JT? You know

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 2>when when when you're right? And Dann Shannon you right.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 3>That's all. I can't argue with you. I take a

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 3>sip of the suler you're you're right. I can't larn

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 3>you with that. Those are points with your ballot.

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>But I think so it's just hard for me to

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>see a guy get a one hundred percent of anything

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 1>you're not.

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 3>People say this thing like, you know what, I work

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.720
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and ten percent. Can't work a hundred ten percent.

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 4>Can't do it. That's all you get. But that's all

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 4>you got, one hundred percent. No, oh, you worked down,

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 4>that's it.

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Jason Tatum was named All NBA First Team for the

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 2>fourth straight year. Corn Bread doesn't look like it's gonna

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 2>be a fifth consecutive year because he's not going to

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 2>He went to the same surgeon that did Kevin Durants. Now,

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 2>if you remember Kevin Durant, it happened in June of

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen. Kevin Durant, you know, twenty nineteen rolls around,

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't play it. Twenty twenty rolls around, they go

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 2>into the bubble, he doesn't play. So he took off

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 2>a total Look, if I'm not mistaken about eighteen months now,

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying Jason Tatum's gonna take off that amount

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 2>of time. But if you look at Kevin Durant, if

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 2>somebody didn't tell you he has suffered a tornt Achilles,

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't know it because he picked right back up

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>well he left off.

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 3>I totally agree with you, But here's the difference. Okay,

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 3>One is age.

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 4>Jason Tatum is twenty five, twenty six, twenty six. When

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 4>what happened when you think of Kevin when they heard

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 4>that he was almost thirty something, he was nine third.

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 4>I always said as a broadcast, I see guys fall

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.919
<v Speaker 4>down when they're in the twenties. I said, oh, he hurt,

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 4>and damn bumus ain't even gonna form yea his muscle. Still,

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 4>I think tatum Is recovery will probably be easier because

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 4>he's a.

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Yacht lot younger and he doesn't have this many miles.

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 4>But like you, I don't I don't foresee him coming back,

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, for this coming year, because I think that

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 4>if you look at this team, Pratt Stevens has some

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 4>opportunity right now to reset, and he's gonna have three

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 4>sets because of the salary structure.

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if it's going to be first s

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 2>ra Vegas ain't coming back. That's one not coming back.

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, you go.

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 3>You know that.

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.399
<v Speaker 2>I know that you got Now the question is are

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 2>you bringing Derrick White and Holiday back because they both

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>got big salaries.

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna do with Al Horford?

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.959
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're probably gonna keep j JB because you're gonna

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 2>be without j T. But I'm not so sure that

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 2>when j JT comes back. It's hard having two players

0:42:59.160 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>making three hundred men.

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 4>JB is a great player. Yeah, but what happened to Giannis?

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 4>This what happened this year? Went with Luca?

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.879
<v Speaker 3>This year? All best of off? Now, I totally a Bee.

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Anybody can be moved in this league now, you know,

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>don't get too stuck up on being around you might

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>be moved. So in Brad Stevens because he's gonna have

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the flexibility of when he won a championship.

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 4>Joe Miszula is a great coach. Can Joe Missoula have

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 4>team right now that is going to probably struggle a

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 4>little bit coming out of the gate because you don't

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 4>have that great player. So I think it's going to

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 4>be a total reset. I believe it's gonna be a

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 4>face slip for the Celtics. And then on top of that,

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.240
<v Speaker 4>you have a new, a new, new, new regime, and

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 4>you know that the uh he he paid six six

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 4>billion dollars for this six point one.

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I me, I know that's chicken change you

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 3>and your brothers. But for me, Yeah, I know. That's

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 3>why I can't.

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I can't find a dollar and I can't kill one. Hey, Bret,

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I take the I take the point one. You keep

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 2>it seeing this, give me the point one? Oh Joe,

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll be I'll be happy with that. Hey, but I

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.720
<v Speaker 2>think the thing is what the teams this Luca trade.

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 3>It tells me.

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it tells you, O Joe, I'll

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 2>be interested to hear what you and Bread think is

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 2>that team Like, we're not going to let y'all do the

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 2>great players hold us hostage. We'll move your ass because

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 2>y'all had too much power. I mean, don't get me wrong,

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 2>superstars had some power. They've never had the kind of

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 2>control that these guys got. I heard Bird talking Bird say,

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 2>they didn't run nothing about me. Hey, I just hey,

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I go in the locker room. But I got a

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>new teammate. They ain't asked me that, hold on, that's

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 2>a lie. I get it out of it and get

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 2>it out about ya.

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I love Larry, but when I got traded in nineteen

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>eighty five eighty six for Bill Walton, they ran that

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>by Larry and he signed up on that and he

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 1>signed off on.

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Ah.

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm not believing. You're saying a lot of stuff, but players.

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Players didn't have a little bit of power, but now

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 4>they have so much more because they are a commodity.

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:27.439
<v Speaker 4>They are Yes, this is this is a fortune five

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 4>hundred when you get one guy right now. So I

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 4>mean their ability to control games, to manipulate teams, teams.

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Been over backwards. You know, you're on the road right now.

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>You know when I was in the NBA, we had

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to wash our own road uniforms my first couple of years.

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so look, yeah, well you know what Charles

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Barkley said that, Yeah, guys will go on a two

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 2>week road trip.

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 3>And there was some guys who were so nasty they

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't even watch the uniform.

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>You were granted that uniform and you could throw up

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and throw it out in the and it was stand

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>up by stand up.

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 4>I seen him like that. He's like you ain't gon

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 4>why would you want to guard that smelly guy right there? So,

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:11.839
<v Speaker 4>I mean it was a different time. I appreciate what

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.359
<v Speaker 4>the teams are doing. I appreciate the players. They are

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.879
<v Speaker 4>tremendous athletes. But I tell you what I would I'd

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 4>be hard pressed to find some guys right now as.

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>You talk about and on all that smoke. They don't

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:26.959
<v Speaker 1>want these They they ain't looking at it. They come

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>in and they talk a lot, but there are any of

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>those guys.

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 2>But see back then, a you could be talking all

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of crazy if somebody they swing on you back

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:36.240
<v Speaker 2>at it. But you know, back then you wasn't getting

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 2>five or fifteen hundred. Now they put a fine on you.

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Now you might lose a million, two million dollar corporated.

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 2>The guy's like dogs, what what what's a million dollars?

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 2>You a guy making a seventy eight million dollars.

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 3>I ain't giving away no money. I know you, I

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 3>know you're.

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 4>Not, But I'm just talking the way the league is now.

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 4>How many times we seen Draymond get Draymond get fired.

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>He's been fined over a couple of million dollars, a

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>million he's giving money back. So so guys aren't afraid

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>now when you're talking about that money.

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 3>But now them think, no guys want to fight, O Joe.

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't. Don't nobody I want to fight no more.

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Ain't nobody Because we.

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Saw we saw Shannon. We saw Shannon at the Laker game.

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I think, there you go, there you go. I ain't

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 1>want no smoke. I ain't want no smoke. You you

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.959
<v Speaker 1>would know when you walk, when you take a foot

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>on the floor, it's punting to a guy.

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>O Joe, come on, now you look, I'm looked down.

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I ain't on the court. I make sure

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I want on the court. I ain't do I ain't

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 2>do a halit, daddy did I ain't run up on

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 2>the court.

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:45.439
<v Speaker 3>Nobody. You know what I'm saying. Oh, ask you a question.

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 3>O Joe didn't even want something. That smoke.

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>He want that smoke by smoke was coming out of

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 1>his ears, going ready.

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 3>You do look out.

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I was dressed though, joke better had a four thousand

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 2>dollars car to get old. I was, you know, I

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, I want nothing. Well you had what you know,

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 2>a little cardigan, little sub I had, Oh you know.

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well he well you know what, y your your

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 4>grandma's flipping right now and up in heaven talking other

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.919
<v Speaker 4>four thousand. You talked so many stories about how much

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 4>money you guys didn't have, and now you're talking about

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 4>you are.

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Head a cardigan for four Yeah, hey, hey corporate, you're

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 2>from the South.

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 3>You know what money? Money wasn't plowing like it is now.

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't couldn't do it at all.

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>My my father would grab my grab my father would

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>give me a dollar, and he asked me next week,

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't I give a dollar last week?

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you think that dollar's gonna last. So it is

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:42.919
<v Speaker 3>a different thing.

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, car Bret, tell me how

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 2>the presson you think this is. Lebron James made his

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty first All NBA team at the age of forty,

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and this is what he tweeted. He said, All NBA

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 2>at forty little key crazy to me right now, sitting

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 2>here watching the playoffs and just thinking of it left beyond,

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't even imagine. You're impressient.

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 3>You do you think we'll feel another player like Lebron?

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, not not because the genetics, the circumstances.

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 3>All the stuff, the will to win, the work, affic.

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 4>That's what that's what makes him to me, the goat

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 4>when I started thinking about, oh, I know, you turn

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:22.240
<v Speaker 4>your head when.

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I said that. The only reason I.

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 4>Say that is because of what he's done over this

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 4>full period of time, the number of points. Everybody talks

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 4>about his losses and the playoffs, Well he got there,

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 4>don't don't.

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:38.879
<v Speaker 3>Don't forget this wrong.

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:42.760
<v Speaker 4>But Michael Jordan his first couple of years got swept swell,

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 4>didn't win, didn't win the game. So I think that

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 4>the Goat conversation to me is really different. But I

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 4>am a huge fan of who Lebron is and what

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 4>he's done on and off the court. But at this

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 4>age right now, to be relevant in the n B

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.800
<v Speaker 4>A to just be damn, it's.

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 2>All right away, just crazy, all right. This is what

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Mike Wilbon had to say earlier. We know who Mike

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 2>wilbonn is. He says, I'm not going to sit here

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 2>and say that Lebron James has to be considered better

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.719
<v Speaker 2>than Magic Johnson. That's garbage. I'm not going to say

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Lebron James has to be considered better than Bill Russell.

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 2>That's garbage. I'm not going to sit here and say

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Lebron James has to be considered better than Kobe Bryant.

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 2>That's garbage. Lebron James is one of the greatest players

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 2>of all time in all team sports. I'm sorry. If

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 2>that's not good enough, turn the page, get over yourself.

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 2>In other words, I'm not going to proclaim and support

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:38.759
<v Speaker 2>and wave Lebron James flag for greatness. But if I

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 2>say he's less than number two, that's not good enough

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 2>for you. To hell with you? What I mean, if

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna say so, why would you say he

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 2>number two? If you're not gonna say he the greatest,

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 2>if you're not gonna say he's better than those guys

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 2>that you mentioned, why would you even say anything about

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 2>him being number two?

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I think that people like to say

0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 4>because you're in the conversation. Maybe one of the best

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 4>points I think I've ever heard when you did your

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 4>Hall of Fame speech, when you talked about you know

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 4>your brother right and and that, and I'm not a

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 4>cheerful person, and I don't like you. I didn't like

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 4>you that way. But when you said that I am

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 4>not the greatest player in my household, that to Lee

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 4>told me who you were as a person because of Mike,

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 4>because of what Lebron changed done, the way he's been

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 4>brought up.

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, mother or mother doesn't know his father, what

0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:33.760
<v Speaker 3>he's done, how he's educated himself.

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I look at the totality of who that man is

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and when he's done.

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 3>On the basketball horizon.

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:45.760
<v Speaker 1>He's playing the guys right now, who's playing with whod

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 1>he's twenty twenty five years older day?

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we ain't gonna say years day, daddy, but

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 3>we just.

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Going with the DNA just might be out there one day,

0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>who knows.

0:51:59.440 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Hey.

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 1>You know it's funny though, Uncle corn read when you

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>think about it. I think about the conversation when it

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.399
<v Speaker 1>comes to the greats, when it comes to sports, two

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 1>greats like this in basketball, you talk about football, you

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:12.759
<v Speaker 1>come to the greats, you talk about Tom Brady's and

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:15.240
<v Speaker 1>your Steve Young's and your past Ma homes.

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 3>The Jordan Lebron conversation to me is one that will

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:21.760
<v Speaker 3>never end. Nope.

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 1>That's based on preference on who someone likes. And I

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 1>think the conversation in itself is something that will continue

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:28.359
<v Speaker 1>to go.

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 3>On and on and on.

0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:31.759
<v Speaker 1>It will have a never ending story because there's so

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>many barrierals that go into it and what people to

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 1>them makes that individual their goal. Yeah, it's like one

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 1>of those things that I personally would stay away from

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:45.280
<v Speaker 1>because it's never in debate when it's like three things

0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that I've always stayed away from when it comes to

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 1>being on a certain platform or any platform for that matter,

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:50.839
<v Speaker 1>because it's never ending.

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:56.720
<v Speaker 3>Race, religion, politics, and politics.

0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>It's never ending, and it can go on and on

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and depending on who you talk to, he could be

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 1>there for twenty four hours because they will always be

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>something to discuss and something something to talk about. And

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that that that the broad that Lebron joined debate managed.

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:12.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just one that just but here you never see

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the light of day here.

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Here's the beauty about that that he's in the conversation.

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 3>That he's in the conversation.

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 1>If you're one of the top one of the top

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>five players that ever to play the game.

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Period, that's enough for me. I don't need no more

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 3>than that. You don't need to have the best.

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.399
<v Speaker 4>No, he's one of the top guys that ever lace

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:37.319
<v Speaker 4>his shoes up.

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Although he although he is the Laker now and I

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:42.759
<v Speaker 3>hate him because of that.

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:46.760
<v Speaker 4>I hate him Because of that, I still respect him

0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 4>because just like Magic Jos, I don't like Magic, but

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 4>I respect him for what he's done for, you know,

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 4>the people in the black people in the communities, what

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 4>he's done for the people at age or aren't you

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 4>but dours, all that stuff.

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I respect him for that.

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Now, if he if I would do this, if I

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.400
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't give him, I wouldn't give him a glass, if

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:10.600
<v Speaker 1>if he was on fire, wouldn't put the going on,

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I drink it.

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 3>Because that's hate that dude.

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I just say to say, you look, it's easy to

0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 2>say that because I think Michael, I think will Bond

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:24.359
<v Speaker 2>does have a great relationship with Jordan's because I've heard

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 2>him have other takes on other being the greatest when

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 2>he talks about boxing and he talks about ali and

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 2>the other sports that he said that he feels very

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 2>comfortable saying this, but it just so happens this discussion

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 2>that he's not gonna say that's his boy. Come on,

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just say it because I've heard him have other

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>discussions like where he had no talk with.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Wilbourn, But that's his boy. Mike is his boy.

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Mike and Chicago, Mike Michael, Well, boy in Chicago. You

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:55.359
<v Speaker 3>can't go against that man, And I get it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>say that. Yeah, just because a lot of time when

0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:00.399
<v Speaker 3>people ask me a question a little better than I'm biased. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I played with y'all anyway, So I y'all want me

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<v Speaker 2>to say no, come on now, my brother, I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>certain situations I'm biased. I'm not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 2>I can't separate it. Most of the time I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can be objected, but in this situation, when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a family or something like that, I'm biased.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I can't separate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I walked in the room my first year, my second

0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 4>in the league. I was averaging eighteen and ten. There

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<v Speaker 4>was a white guy that came on the court for

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:29.920
<v Speaker 4>our first practice, and I gave him a clap like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Great white hope and it was Larry Joe Bird. Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you what.

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<v Speaker 4>By the time that practice said, I went to the

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<v Speaker 4>first black person I could see. I say, you know

0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:44.719
<v Speaker 4>what a damn white guy can play down there. So

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<v Speaker 4>I I learned to think, you don't judge your book

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<v Speaker 4>by company. You really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, God's the funny God, God doesn't give

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:56.879
<v Speaker 1>me one, but God gives me the two best white

0:55:56.920 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>players ever to play together in Birds and Michael and

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I dare say I might have the best.

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<v Speaker 3>White team ever.

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<v Speaker 4>When I think about if I got those two and

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 4>I put Cablet Check in there, I put Dave Cowen's

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 4>in there, I put Pep Marybage in there, all white teeth.

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:16.759
<v Speaker 4>I got it. I got it down hands pat in basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was prejudiced as a player, But my god,

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:22.839
<v Speaker 4>those guys can play the game at a high level.

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Beesby also chimed in on the Jordan Lebron debate.

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<v Speaker 2>With Jordan, they don't talk about negativity. What will Lebron?

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.319
<v Speaker 2>We watch it's good, it's bad. We watch his ups

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:37.839
<v Speaker 2>is downs, and he's been so great. We don't have

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:41.360
<v Speaker 2>anything else to say, so we talk about his son. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. During this era, there wasn't social media

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 2>like it is now that you know you and you

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know how social media is.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, absolutely, I'm all over the paper social media either

0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:02.800
<v Speaker 1>never read about some of the things that some of

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:05.839
<v Speaker 1>the people have done and said a social media has

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:09.359
<v Speaker 1>changed the landscape for any ath laid out and if

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:11.839
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand that, then you're a fool out there.

0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:12.839
<v Speaker 3>I said that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Jermezola said, I want to insulate Jason Tatum.

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 4>I said, Joe, you ken, he said what I said.

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<v Speaker 4>Because of social media. That man got five six seven leadion.

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>People following him every time he's doing every commercial out there,

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 1>God blesson.

0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 3>But you cannot have the good without the back and

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 3>the fourth.

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<v Speaker 4>On it because social media is so big now, it

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 4>absolutely is.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jordan has said it but saying he don't know

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 2>how he could have handled social media because think about

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 2>how he's done. You know, how he's been able to

0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 2>despoke this life now, he's been in a bubble from

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the first eighty four. I mean, he doesn't know what

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like to have a normal life. He can't go anywhere.

0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:52.240
<v Speaker 2>He can't go to the movies. He had written the

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 2>whole movie Thaate out. He can't go to the he

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 2>couldn't take his kids to the skating rink. He had

0:57:57.200 --> 0:58:00.120
<v Speaker 2>writ the whole skating rink out. So Lebron is the

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 2>same way. I mean, Lebron moves a little bit more

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 2>freely than Jordans. I mean, because you really never saw

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Jordan at advance, like like what you see Lebron going

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:10.680
<v Speaker 2>to a high school basketball game or pulling up at

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 2>a college game. It's just so hard for him for

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 2>to be I wouldn't I wouldn't want to le Bron.

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Lebron loves the social media.

0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:24.640
<v Speaker 1>He dictates any acts in a way that he is

0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>able to orchan strain some of the things with the

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 1>social media that doesn't.

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Happen when you talk about Lebron, when you talk about

0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:34.400
<v Speaker 3>what happened on with Jordan.

0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:37.120
<v Speaker 4>Jordan was looked at as this guy and from then

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 4>on he didn't worry about it.

0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 3>You said, then, and then you saw how he was exposed.

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 4>When it was the last dayance, I had my parents

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 4>on my podcast, he said, he said, let me tell

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 4>you right now.

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:49.480
<v Speaker 3>He said, Michael Jordan's a damn brilling.

0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 4>He said, we played him and I was on his

0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 4>team that time, and we beat him.

0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:59.120
<v Speaker 3>And then after the game, he said, there were locker room.

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:02.320
<v Speaker 4>He said, Michael was standing there and he said, Michael

0:59:02.400 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 4>hyen like the mask kickers. We gave it that and

0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:07.760
<v Speaker 4>Michael said, if you keep talking, our kick your ass.

0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, my buddy Rob Robert Parris said, look you and

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 3>nobody else said.

0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 4>Robert walked up to me and said, you know what,

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 4>I got rings already before I got here. So there

0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 4>was some exposure to who Michael Jordan was as a player.

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:21.640
<v Speaker 3>I admire him.

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 4>He's from Love, Carolina, from Wilmington, right down the street

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 4>from my hometown to Kenston.

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:27.520
<v Speaker 3>I understand who he is.

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>But nobody would have ever thought that we would have

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 1>had a guy that would become that big, that big

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in basketball.

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 3>And I played with the Birds that played with magic.

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 4>But none of those guys will ever ranked what Jordan

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 4>has done a standpoint of being on that route Mount Rushmore,

0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 4>except maybe Lebron Jente.

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:49.640
<v Speaker 3>The shoe because Corn Brad.

0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:53.320
<v Speaker 2>You remember, like gods had shoes like mos Malone and

0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 2>ice Man, they weren't Nike. Nike wasn't that big back

0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 2>in the late seventies early eighties until Jordan took it

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 2>over and then you had to wear is the cons

1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 2>bird water CONSU, magic water cons. Doctor j made the

1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:09.640
<v Speaker 2>corn really famous. But when they retired, okay, the shoot

1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:12.000
<v Speaker 2>went away. He ain't nobody wasn't nobody else rocking the

1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:15.040
<v Speaker 2>weapons and the Jordan and the Birds and the magic.

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:20.720
<v Speaker 2>But Jordan Jordan and drove the basketball in twenty five years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's still got the number one selling Shoot you.

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<v Speaker 4>Right about that? And people say that right now by

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:28.960
<v Speaker 4>this his ex wife Janeda, How the hell do you

1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 4>try to go date her when you're walking up in

1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:31.440
<v Speaker 4>his shoes?

1:00:32.280 --> 1:00:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Hey? Baby, whoa what you got on your shoes up

1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:35.760
<v Speaker 3>to come?

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<v Speaker 4>Before you come here? So man, you guys, you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you this before I go. You guys

1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 4>have been brilliant. I am so appreciative of being on

1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 4>your show. Can't wait to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Back and thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I see when I see you two young black men

1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 4>working and doing what you've done. Man to me, I

1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:59.200
<v Speaker 4>just loove you. You're young black, get brilliant. He and

1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:01.840
<v Speaker 4>I always remember who you are and that's why I

1:01:01.880 --> 1:01:03.400
<v Speaker 4>love both you guys.

1:01:03.400 --> 1:01:05.919
<v Speaker 3>So Corl bred I appreciate that. Man. Thanks for coming on.

1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:07.960
<v Speaker 2>And you get a look when you get another moment

1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:10.360
<v Speaker 2>to stop back by, because probably when you come back by,

1:01:10.360 --> 1:01:14.520
<v Speaker 2>the Lakers probably be happy. Hey, oh Joe, we spent

1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:16.320
<v Speaker 2>like twenty minutes trying to get him sit up with

1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:18.360
<v Speaker 2>the camera talking to him and his wife talking through it.

1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:21.040
<v Speaker 2>So he had his camera on. He been on there

1:01:21.080 --> 1:01:25.560
<v Speaker 2>for like an hour. He wait, so he been there

1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:27.920
<v Speaker 2>for an hour. That was corn bred. Max Well the

1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:31.440
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty one Finals MVP over the Houston Rockets when

1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:35.920
<v Speaker 2>they had Moses Malone on that team. I'm trying to

1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:37.840
<v Speaker 2>think of all the players that they had on that team.

1:01:38.480 --> 1:01:43.160
<v Speaker 2>I think they had who else was on that team?

1:01:43.400 --> 1:01:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Moses Malone? I'm trying to think. I don't think Rodney

1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:49.480
<v Speaker 3>McCrae was on that team yet.

1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that he was on the eighty sixteen, but uh,

1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:58.520
<v Speaker 2>the Celtics beat them in six games. But uh, it

1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:00.120
<v Speaker 2>was great to have corn bread on. Man, I I

1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:02.000
<v Speaker 2>know you, Like I said, I used to follow the

1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Boston Celtics.

1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:03.200
<v Speaker 3>That was my team.

1:02:03.280 --> 1:02:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Ladd Bird was my guy, and uh, it was great

1:02:05.680 --> 1:02:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to have cornbread on. So cornbread when you get a chance,

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<v Speaker 2>start back by the volume