1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Hey, welcome back to the show. So nice 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: to have you as always, or maybe welcome to the show. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Just might be your first time. That's always exciting. First time. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: We'll be gentle. Oh we'll try. Sometimes we get a 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: little out of hand. Yeah, it's just so passionate over here. Um, 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: this is such a cool week for us. We are 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: as you're listening to this, we are probably, of all things, 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: driving to California. Timing couldn't have been better for gas prices. Yeah, 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, when we planned this trip a few months 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: ago because we're going out to a wedding in Palm Springs. 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Our friends Max and Stephanie, who we love and are 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: amazing people, moved out there and they're getting married. Congratulations 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: to them. Uh, and we're so excited to go to 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: their wedding. And when we planned it a few months ago, 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: we ran all the numbers and we were like, you know, 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: we could save a little money if we drive. Um, 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: and the guest person who at the times prices were 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: different back then, Um, and you know what, that's okay, 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: it's okay. We're we're fortunate enough that we can still 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: do it. Um, it's not gonna it hasn't ruined the trip. 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: We might rethink some things, but you don't need to 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: worry about all that. The point is, uh, we're on 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: the road and we've got this really cool episode to 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: bring to you while while we're sort of out of town. Yes, 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm so excited because you know, we hear on ridiculous romance, 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: that's us. We have focused pretty solidly on like individual 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: affairs and triads and love triangles and divorces and marriages 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: and just characters history, you know, pretty exclusively. But what 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: is romance without sex? For most? For most, not for all? 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Many a sexual people are going it's great, great, fine, 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: But I think you know a lot of us associates 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: sex and romance together as one thing. And you know, 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: what is sex without a couple of toys? Something to 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: spice things up a little? Yeah, give it a little 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: bit of a bulls. You know, humans have been creating 36 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: marital and masturbation aids pretty much since the dawn of time, 37 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: and we thought it would be super super fun to 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: have our favorite ridiculous historians Ben Bolan and Noel Brown 39 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: on our show to talk about sex toys through time. Yes, 40 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean you all know Ben and Nol. I'm sure 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: these guys are not just the hosts of Ridiculous History, 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: which is like, uh, you know, our our big sister 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: show I call it. They also are the host of 44 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know, Sercy Theory Show, 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite podcasts I love. It's 46 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: actually one of the first podcasts I ever listened to, definitely, 47 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: and it's fantastic. But they are also the great masterminds 48 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: of what we've tentatively been calling the Ridiculous Universe of podcasts, 49 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: of course, including the brand new show Diculous Crime Elizabeth 50 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: and Zarin and if you haven't checked it out, so good, 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: and there are more ridiculous announcements to come. But if 52 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: you're here as maybe a first time listener like baby, 53 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: you're a regular listener of Ridiculous History, and Ben and 54 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Nol brought you over here, welcome to the show. We're 55 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: very happy to have you. Yes, you have joined the 56 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: ranks of all the amazing people that we have big 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: crushes on who are our listeners. Um, but you know, 58 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: please go check out our other episodes, because this is 59 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: gonna be very different than our usual deal. You know, 60 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: we usually kind of do a deep dive into either 61 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: a couple or a concept or you know, somebody who 62 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: fell in love with a thing like a wall or 63 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: a sword, ghosts, pirates, all kinds of things, whatever gets 64 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: somebody off. We've we've had a show about it, so 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: please do check that out. But today we're getting into 66 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: dildos and radishes and all so weird stuff. But that's 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: what makes today so fun. Um in fact, today and Friday, 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: because this will be a two parter because you know, 69 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: you get bet an All in the room with us, 70 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: and there's just too much to say. I just can't 71 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: shut up. Um, but we're so excited we got to 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: hang out with our friends and just like pull out 73 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: the craziest info we could find for y'all on these 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: bizarre historical sex toys. Yes, so hopefully you enjoy it 75 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: as much as we did. Yes, definitely, So we got 76 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: bet a nl here, I say, we jump right into it. Yeah, 77 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: let's go. Hey the French, come listen. Well, Elia and 78 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: Diana got some stories to tell. There's no match making 79 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: a romantic tips. It's just about ridiculous relationships, a love. 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: It might be any type of person at all, and 81 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: abstract cons are a concrete wall. But if there's a 82 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: story where the second clans Ridiculous role, that's a production 83 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hey, guys, thank you so much 84 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: for coming on the show. Right, I too am very 85 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: excited and enthused, So I'm sorry. Yeah, we woke these 86 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: guys up at three am and told them they had 87 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: to come jump on the show interrupting, and I was like, 88 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: can I can I bring clothes with me? I didn't 89 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: get an answer, but I found I found a T shirt. Um, 90 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: So I'm just not going to stand up while we 91 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: record out of respect for this. Yeah, but I know 92 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: that we were massively excited first off, big big fans 93 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: of Ridiculous room massively yes, massively excited, uh, positively vibrating 94 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: with pleasure because this is a this is a show. Uh. 95 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: One thing we love about Ridiculous romances, uh your ability 96 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: to explore things in a way that we often don't 97 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: in ridiculous history. When you agree no explore right? Sorry yeah, no, no, 98 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: definitely this is going to be a journey of voyage 99 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: of self discovery. Uh yeah, I mean we you know, 100 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: we try to keep it p G thirteen and honestly, like, 101 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: there's no reason that the history of sex toys can't 102 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: be Pg. Thirteen. I mean it's history. These are things, 103 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: these are artifacts, These are historic relic sometimes sacred in 104 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: many cases. Yeah, the history itself definitely Pg. Thirteen, us 105 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: talking about it. We'll see. I love it though. Yeah, 106 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: this is us. This is like me and Ben's chance 107 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: to really let it all. We take you guys off 108 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: the leash, and we'll see what happens. Okay, wait, what 109 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: do we is this? I trust you guys, Diana? Is 110 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: this a is this a episode where we need a 111 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: safe word? Or where are we at with that? You know, 112 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: a safe word is always a good idea if you 113 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: ever feel uncomfortable. Definitely, just you know, I don't know, 114 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: scream at the top of your lungs hard words. That 115 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: will be our safe word, right, hard is a great 116 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: sad no potential for misunderstanding there. I always just preferred. 117 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: I think we've mentioned on the show before that I 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: just think the ultimate safe word is just safe word. 119 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: Why why or something? When you're like, look, safe word, 120 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: it says it all. It's safe word. Safe word. You're done. 121 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm not going to accidentally say safe word 122 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: and passion in the moment if I don't mean it 123 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: unlike pineapples, which comes up a lot. Well, yeah, kindly stop. Sorry, 124 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: the safe word must be submitted in writing in triplicate. No, 125 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: this is a question that I think is on both 126 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: my mind and and knowles. Uh, what are some of 127 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: the like you guys have gone into some really um 128 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: at times controversial territory for a lot of people. So 129 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: one of the things that I think you always approach 130 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: from such an empathetic human angle is the idea of 131 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: people's sexual explorations, right, I think because we call it 132 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: ridiculous romance, and you've had stories that are almost entirely 133 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: just just the romance. Right, But today when you you, 134 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: when you all came to us with this idea of 135 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: sex toys, I at least I can't speak for unial. 136 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I knew they were ancient because people have been into 137 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: this for a long time. But I don't think I grasped, 138 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: uh grasp whatever. I don't think I understood how like 139 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: how intertwined with society, past, present and future these things 140 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: have been. And is it true like are we at 141 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: a did we just as a society get out of 142 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: a period where these things were taboo? I have so 143 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: many questions. Uh, yeah, I think so. I mean, especially 144 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: dildos particularly were vilified. At one point in history. They 145 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: were very very common and awesome and everybody loved them, 146 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: and then they were like, wait, do you think my 147 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: wife will like this dildo better than me? And then 148 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: they kind of fell out of favor with the gentleman. 149 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? Learn how to be a 150 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: better lover? That's it's it's remarkable how frequently male in 151 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: security shape's history. Remarkable, so remarkable, almost too much remarkable. Um. 152 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: I also did learn too that because it allowed gay men, 153 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: dildos allowed gay men to have sex without you know, 154 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: without actually uh putting their own body parts in each other, 155 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: they were able to have sex when they had HIV, 156 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: and so they became synonymous with having HIV for a 157 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: while as well. If you had a dilda meant you 158 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: were you were like had a deadly disease, which is 159 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: very weird. But obviously that changed all right. Well, you know, 160 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: they were trying real hard to make everyone very scared 161 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: of gay people. Um, that's true during that period. So 162 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: I think they were trying anything, and they were trying 163 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: anything with stick. Speaking of sticks, speaking of sticks. Early 164 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: on though, I mean, like the attitude towards sex was 165 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: pretty la fair like I mean the earliest days, and 166 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: then it went through the kind of puritanical phase and 167 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: then sort of his come full circle. Um in the 168 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: modern day. I know we're going to get there, but 169 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: why don't we take it back to like antiquity and 170 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: like the discovery of the first mystical dildo of the gods? Well, yeah, 171 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: we I mean we have been digging up dildos for 172 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: a very long time, right, they think the first one humans, 173 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: not us personally, we have been personally, We've only been 174 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: digging up dildos for a couple of months. But humans 175 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: have been doing your backyard. It's weird. I have no 176 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: idea how they got there. It was the oldest house 177 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: on the street, they tell us, so there was nothing 178 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: but farmland dildo. Everyone would hide their dildos in our backyard. No, yeah, 179 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: human beings have been digging up dildos for a very 180 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: long time. I think they found the very first dildo 181 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: in a cave in Germany that dates back to the 182 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Ice Age, so twenty eight thousand years ago, and it's 183 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: made of chalk. Chalk, I guess you gotta stay warm, 184 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: but geez feels dry though, doesn't it like something like that? 185 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: Why would you want to put but you something? But 186 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you're really desperate and the ice ages. 187 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: But you could really leave your mark, chalk it up, 188 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: chalk it after a lack of supplies. I don't know 189 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: what couldn't lead It's a fashioned one out of like 190 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: a block of ice, just kind of make it like smooth. 191 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: I guess it would melt, but it would take you. 192 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: Do you want to put ice like inside your butt? 193 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: Because I can tell you I was not. It could 194 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: be interesting, who knows. I mean it was the ice age. 195 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: They were very used to that feeling. Whatever. Isn't there 196 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: another old one that was discovered? Um, I believe somewhere 197 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: in like Syria that was like made of stone. There 198 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: were like stone ones as well, stone, ivory, jade, probably bones. 199 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: I imagine I feel like that's a that's an obvious one. 200 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: Make a sure, um. And if you look up prehistoric dildos, 201 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: they have a wide variety of sizes and girths and 202 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: different foreskin like options. They even came with tattoos or 203 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: little illustrations carved in them. So I love that there 204 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: was some art. They're like branded. They were branded, they 205 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: were like dildo. They probably had a close personal relationship, 206 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: you know. At I assumed that even in more uh 207 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: collectivist early societies, there were still things that were considered 208 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: kind of like your personal property, like hey, this like 209 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: like a two shot, you know, or you know, or 210 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: your button plug or your dildo. Right. But by the way, 211 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm a mistake, I said Syria just kind of off 212 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: the top of my head. It was Germany, I believe, 213 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: where they found these collections of siltstone Germany. Some of 214 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: these were like monogram Germany. The early four front of 215 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: this techniu makes sense exactly of of anywhere in the world, 216 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: where would you look for a dildo, but Germany. You 217 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: listened to your show, that's awesome. So so there's another thing. 218 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, Diane, You've found this in your researchens something 219 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: that really stood out to me because you think a 220 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: lot about not to get too in the weeds, so 221 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: you think a lot about uh material science to put 222 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: it in the lamest way possible, like, uh, it makes 223 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: sense that there would be something like a smooth stone 224 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: or ivory your bone, or even would that would make 225 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: sense and probably have less of a risk of injury 226 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: or irritation. But what's up with the incredibly silly name 227 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: The Holnest Boy b O. I by you, boy, and 228 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: he's more a man than you'll everybody. Pretty pretty good 229 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: brand name, but yeah, what's the deal with that? This 230 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: is a dates back to ancient Greece, I believe, and 231 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: then carried over to some other adjacent culture. Oh yeah, 232 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: they were stuffed phalluses and they were made of polished leather, 233 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: and I guess apparently sometimes you would even find the 234 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: stone ones with like a leather sheath, so they would 235 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: be warmer and softer when there um, so that's part 236 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: that was smart. I feel like they were really thinking 237 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: about comfort at some point, and they were like, you know, 238 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: while we're making coats and shoes, let's go ahead set 239 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: some aside. Somebody said, ladies, siltstone just isn't doing it 240 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: for me. A lot of roughage about it, and they 241 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: didn't work leather well. Speaking of chafe, the ancient Greeks 242 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: would also use olive oil as a lubricant, So there 243 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: goes your chafing problem. You just get that bad boy, 244 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: that bad olives boy. Dipped in some olive oil. Literally 245 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: that enters into the etymology of the word, right, does 246 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: that all his boy referencing oil? I wonder if they 247 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: just I don't know. I always do this where I 248 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: see two vaguely similar words and I'm like, they must 249 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: be related. There's no way they're not. Pretty incidence because 250 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: I believe this is the first version of this that 251 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: was called this, then there were other cultures that used 252 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: that that term as well. It makes me think of 253 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: have you guys ever seen the movie Caligula? You know 254 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: I didn't watch. Uh, yeah, it's it's it's a lot. 255 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: It was produced by the publisher of Penthouse and they 256 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: wanted it to be like full front orgy orgiastic raunch City. 257 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: But it's also like, you know, a really expensive, you know, 258 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: period movie with Malcolm McDowell playing the titular psychopath Emperor 259 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: of Rome. And there's a scene where he um, he 260 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: uses olive oil uh to loop up his fist a thing. Yeah, Like, like, 261 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: I've got the etymology because they're thinking of this as well. 262 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: And you know, English being such a language of the 263 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: lazy and plagiaris plagiaristic people of the world. Uh, we 264 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: end up with a lot of things that may seem 265 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: like they are falsely related. But according to this all 266 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: this boy, which is the funny one, is the plural 267 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: of olibos, which is ancient Greek for to slip, to glide. 268 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: You know, like that slipping slide commercial from the eighties, 269 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: right you take a jump and take a die. Yeah? Yeah, 270 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: I was like what and I don't know, Eli, you 271 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: and I are the olds in this conversation. Whereas yeah, 272 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: where I as I believe olive is unrelated etymologically, but 273 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: dang it again, olive exactly like a game boy this. 274 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to go retied to be with my olive boy. 275 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: There's another interesting thing here. We're talking about the cyclical 276 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: ups and downs of sex positivity for lack of a 277 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: better word, throughout human history. One thing that surprised me 278 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: in the research here is that the Greek men, to 279 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: your point about male insecurity, like the Greek men who 280 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: would go off to fighting wars, were actually on board 281 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: with giving giving an all this boy to their partners. Yeah. 282 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: They thought that if women were left too long without 283 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: an injection of sperm in them at some point, they 284 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: would eventually get hysteria. Or something called a wandering uterus. 285 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: I know, it's a tough time around the house when 286 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: my uterus jumps out and starts to start myself. You know, 287 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: we get we always get calls from the neighbors. Us 288 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: is loose again, you know, a little buddy. You just 289 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: need a higher fence. I keep saying, I thought it 290 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: felt a little lighter trying to find itself. You know, 291 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: it's just trying to understand who it really is, Like 292 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: what am I doing? I gotta say that this this 293 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: concept though, of like leaving the women with a dildo 294 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: so that they wouldn't you know that u verses wouldn't 295 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: wonder It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase 296 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: left to their own devices. We have to we have 297 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: to noculate you with sperm or else we will go insane, 298 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: which is so funny and that I mean, it's noted here, 299 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: of course, that hysteria and sex toys had a very 300 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: long historical link, mostly for women. You know, doctors would 301 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: uh do a pelvic massage for women that would result 302 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: in a paroxysm. Uh I was supposed to cure them 303 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: of hysteria, and I bet a lot of women were like, yeah, 304 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: I feel so hysterical today. I don't know, doctor showing 305 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: me how I could do this maybe at home for 306 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: myself when a hysteria just comes on. He's like, no, 307 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: I think you need a professional. Was this kind of 308 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: like a like a slow shift, because it seems like 309 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: at first these sex toys are purely meant for kind 310 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: of you know, the most hedonistic of pleasures, um, and 311 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: then it starts to be more functional, where it's like 312 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: I am the man. I I you know, you are 313 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: my property, and I'm going to give you this as 314 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: a stand in for me while I'm away. But then 315 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: it kind of started moving more towards like being a 316 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: medical device, right or we maybe we're not quite there yet, 317 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think vibrators more specifically, we're we're marketed 318 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: as medical devices and dildo's were not. So I think 319 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: that's why dildos actually had more controversy on them than 320 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: vibrators ever did, because vibrators never really had Yeah, vibrators 321 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: never really seemed to be a problem for people. They're like, cool, 322 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: whatever gets you steampowered thing and have at it. But like, 323 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: but it was like a medical thing because ladies are 324 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: so crazy they have to have something, I guess, But 325 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: with dildos it was more about like actual penetration and 326 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: men could use them, and you know, lesbians used them 327 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: and stuff, so it became like more of a I 328 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: guess I could see that. You know, if you've got 329 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: something that vibrates, then the men, you know, well I 330 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: I can't do that, So at least that's a different device. 331 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: But if it's just a dildo, I've got a perfectly 332 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: good dick right here. What's the problem you want to 333 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: you want to dick in you? I can make that happen. Yeah, 334 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: getting a little more aggravated about the diage. This is 335 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: a great spot for a break, so we'll be right back. 336 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone. So there's another question that I had 337 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: that was a very I guess, practical question, Like, obviously 338 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: a chalk like a dildo device to chalk. It sounds 339 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: like it's what the person had to work with at 340 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: the time. But when you're thinking about people in the 341 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: natural world, where there's not nearly as much technology as 342 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: there is today in two as we record this, wouldn't 343 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: the natural world already have some kind of like phallic 344 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: thing you could mess with, Like I don't know, I'm 345 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the laziest choices like I was. No, 346 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: we're not gonna tell that story, Like, oh, okay, I'll 347 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: say it. So I was in a grocery store during 348 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: the height of the lockdown, will only go out from 349 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: necessses whatever be massed up and everything. And I had 350 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: been out in public in a while, and the entire 351 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned to you guys off air, the 352 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: entire grocery store was filled with a weirdly unnecessary sexual 353 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: tension because people hadn't seen each other in a while. 354 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: Everybody's got an aura of mystery because you know, two 355 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: thirds of their faces covered. And I was in the 356 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: produce aisle and this, uh, there's a person there, and 357 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: I can tell you much more about them who saw me, 358 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: like selecting cucumbers for some stuff always gonna cook, and 359 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: we're staring at me hard to the point where I 360 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: just put down the cucumbers and thought, I'm going to 361 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: cook something else because this is this person is reading 362 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: this more into this situation than you know, my lay 363 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: mass salad or whatever. And why I think of that? 364 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: You know, we like it's a troupe in it's a 365 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: trope in so much Western Eurotica as well, like watch 366 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: this person eat fruit or whatever? So did that play 367 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: a role in like the history of sex toys? Most 368 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: definitely they are like ancient texts like Arabian Nights that 369 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: talk about fruit and vegetables and just any penis shaped object. 370 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: But the best one I saw was from this Ming 371 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: dynasty writer tout sung E And you know, we don't 372 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: speak Cantonese, but we try. Circa thirteen sixty he wrote 373 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: about something called the Cantonese growing, which was a root 374 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: sufficiently penis shaped to be used as a dildo, mostly 375 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: by peasant women in the country rural areas. And interestingly 376 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: it was also called an olspos, so they probably got 377 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: that from ancient Greece. Imagine such a similar name. Yeah right, 378 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: such a similar name it must have been. And the 379 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: legend of this Cantonese groin is quote. In the pastures 380 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: of the Tartars, wild horses often copulate with dragons. Drops 381 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: of the seamen will fall down and enter the earth, 382 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: and after some time put forth shoots resembling bamboo sprouts 383 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: of pointed shape and covered with small scales close together 384 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: like the teeth of a comb, and with a network 385 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: of veins, making them very similar to the male member. Okay, 386 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: do you guys have teeth of a comb on your 387 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: diack to that? Well, to be fair, I mean not 388 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: to get to you know, anatomically correct when there is 389 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: a seam, you know, on the bottom of of of 390 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: a penis that is vaguely comb like or it's like 391 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: a ridge kind of things, zig zaggy kind of you. 392 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, the veiny part is always just you know, 393 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: sometimes I get these sweet potatoes everything store that have 394 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: all these veins up along the side of them. It's 395 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: very very upsetting trying to say sweet potato, that's a 396 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: very sweet any of the produce section in general, you 397 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: just got even wonder don't when you when you skip cucumbers? 398 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: Where do you go? Because almost everything Well, it's so funny. 399 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: The emoji is eggplant, which is the one I would 400 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: probably not turn to you in a crisis. And actually 401 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: another ming writer named Lee you wrote a theatrical play 402 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: about a lesbian couple who use a double at least 403 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: so they had double sided dildos, like as far back 404 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: as the thirteen hundreds. And this was a stick made 405 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: of water ivory with two silk bands attached to the middle. 406 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: I guess you like pull on it. Yeah, well you 407 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: need a grip, right, something to grip on. That makes sense. 408 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: So I assuming we I haven't seen these this play, 409 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: I have not said. I don't think there's been mounted 410 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: in a while. Hasn't been mounted? Is it? Is it 411 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: double sided? Like two heads to it? Yeah? They could. 412 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: They were saying in this uh, in this UH book 413 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: about the the main writers that female homosexuality was very 414 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: common and considered to be a fine, normal thing, no 415 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: problem ladies have at but male homosexuality was very frowned 416 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: upon at the same time, which is so interesting to 417 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: me the gendered it sinks about homosexuality. It's interesting because 418 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: there was also, especially nupper class, there was a uh, 419 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: some pretty distinct sharp lines around gender division. Right, So 420 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: you could end up being, you know, some wine of 421 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: noble birth, and you're you're not gonna meet a lot 422 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: of dudes who are not, you know, either working for 423 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: you or or your relatives. So maybe how far historically 424 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: is this after ancient Greek and ancient he said, it's 425 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: a long time, yeah, because I mean, like you know, 426 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: in those in those days, the moment, I mean it 427 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: was like almost like like cool, not cool to not 428 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: be by or by curious or have like a stables 429 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: were the one being penetrated. You had to be a 430 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: tops only, which is so funny because if everyone is 431 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: the top, then where were they putting it? And the way, guys, 432 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: what's a power? Bottom? Somebody explained to me, what a power? 433 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: Have you not seen one in Philadelphia? And explanation? Okay, 434 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: I'll just maybe maybe some ridiculous romantics. We'll get a 435 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: we'll get an answering machine on a later episode. Yeah, 436 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: but it wasn't just vegetables and fruit that people used. Um. 437 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: Speaking of ancient Greece in a book called The Joy 438 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: of Sexist Love, Lust, Lust, Love and Longing in the 439 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: Ancient World by Vicky Leon, breadstick dildos were a common thing. 440 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: Were the bottomless? No? They all found the bottom? I think, yeah, 441 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us absolute. Okay, so first off, 442 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: I always shot to Larry David. But the crumbs right 443 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: like crocs? This is my first question, exactly exact. Plus, 444 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: I guess you have to have enough bread that you 445 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: would let one sit by get stale enough to do 446 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: the job. Plus plus I'm thinking you bust out the 447 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: olive oil, and there's a and there's a loaf of bread. 448 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna do anything, but immediately it's 449 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: gonna be gone black pepper in there. Yeah, yeah, no, 450 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. It's food is just gonna come before sex 451 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: for me. Also, I have a real um not phobia, 452 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: but I'm just sort of squigged out a little bit 453 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: by incorporating food stuffs into sex stuff, saying I just 454 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: don't think the twain should should meet. Like I don't 455 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: even like like like sexy strawberry use that's just no, 456 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: just yeah, don't care like inviting ants to hang out 457 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: in your bed and stickiness. He's already going to be 458 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: stickiness eventually anyway, But that's how you know it's over. 459 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: You don't want sticking this in advance, how you know 460 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: we're done. Oh man. I also don't like the idea 461 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: of putting yeast anywhere near your vagina issues down there. 462 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: But apparently this happened when at an ancient bakery. When 463 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: quote a gal with time on her hands started four 464 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: around with bread dough is like a loose woman hands 465 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: right while lasciviously daydreaming, she created an a lissbo colics. 466 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: The breadstick dildo the sex industry's first green product. Well done, 467 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: well done, very important to be sustainable in our sex 468 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: toy expliration. I'm sure that was her primary concern. Thousands 469 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: of years people are gonna plastic waste. I'm onto something. 470 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: You guys are calling me weird, but just wait one day, 471 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: we're going to want to get power from the sun. 472 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, this is this is uh fascinating because it 473 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: sounds like it caught on and became kind of a 474 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: cottage Indi Street, at least in ancient Athens. Uh. Yeah, 475 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: there was a There was a note from that interview 476 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: that Leon did with the Huffington's Post where she answered 477 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: a question that I was a little too hesitant to 478 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: ask because I'm one of the more immature people in 479 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: today's conversation. What happens to the bread after yes, you 480 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: sell it for half price obviously, or you sell it 481 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: for the price okay on fans, you could probably sell it. 482 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: Fort were always selling their used underwear and there's someone 483 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: for some crazy shit, you know, That's the thing there's 484 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: always Leon said, these breadsticks were these oldest post colleagues, 485 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: excuse me, were a custom made to fit and quote 486 00:30:54,080 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: even nutritious. Should the need arise different need arise? Yeah, 487 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: it's like yeah, functional and edible nutritious though, well my question, 488 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a very broad term, you know, 489 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: like a multi grain. So there was some kind of friction. Yeah, sure, sure, 490 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: with or without right seeds. Dr Ruth is probably this 491 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with. Well, it depends do you want 492 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: it ribbed for her pleasure? And maybe that's what the rides. Yeah, 493 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: apparently there's a reference to using dildos in the playlist 494 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: is Strata, which is about women who go on a 495 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: sex strike to stop a warm So they definitely I 496 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: wonder if they ever used Baggett's and like, I kind 497 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: of want to do a production now they're like, well, 498 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: like we're all set over here. Well, the war is 499 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: going terribly, but our grain industry is just dominating. Time 500 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: for a teeny weeny commercial break. We will be right back. 501 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, everybody. Okay, I got I'll 502 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: stop going back to the weird idea that people have 503 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: to have quote sperm injections to not go crazy because 504 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: there's there's no sperm involved obviously, right with I mean, 505 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm not a baker, but okay, yeah, just trying. But 506 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: I suppose if you made like in a Claire, you know, uh, 507 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: there might be something there. Oh boy, that's my nickname. 508 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: I said it was Creamfield. I didn't tell you what 509 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of creamy, but I did sell you for no 510 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: refunds and you're welcome, so I did say. So we're 511 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: we're looking. I think it's safe to say that, like, 512 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: what we're already seeing is a long established pattern of people, honestly, 513 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: people taking some agency for themselves, and people say I 514 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need another person and all that baggage that 515 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: comes with it if I already know what I want, 516 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: um right, and this this is a trend that content. 517 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say, spoiler alert, uh for everybody listening. I 518 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: am so excited to get to some poetry in a second, 519 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: because I'm like emotionally nine years old. But but I 520 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: but I think we've got maybe just something, just another 521 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: thing to add in here beforehand, which is we've also 522 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: established past the world of like so past the ancient world. 523 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: When we're talking about a lot of this stuff, we're 524 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: talking about people who are probably considered to be people 525 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: of means. I mean, history itself as we know it 526 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: is is kind of inherently a history of the literate 527 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: class because they're the ones who could write. So are 528 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm asking? I'm not sure how to 529 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: phrase this. What we're rich people doing at this point, 530 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: like using bread that's what the servants were for. No, 531 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: but you're so right they I don't think they used 532 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: as many root vegetables and stuff because they had money 533 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: to pay for nice things and um. By the time 534 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: of the Renaissance, rich folks had Dildo's custom made from 535 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: silver and ivory and gold and other like precious materials. 536 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: So they had, like I mean, very valuable sex toys 537 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: in their possession and probably beautifully decorated. Don't you think, 538 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: oh you I would think that, yeah, because you're showing 539 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: them off to the neighbors right myself in your bedroom 540 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: and you're like, this one has is adorned with garners. 541 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm a lady. There's a certain element of keeping up 542 00:34:51,719 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: with the Joneses. Of course, toysium, I think really skip 543 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: this period in history already. But I just wanted to 544 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: mention something that I that I ran across, um in 545 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: terms of like what the rich we're doing. Uh, there's 546 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: a rumor. I think it's backed up with with actual findings, 547 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: archaeological findings. But apparently Cleopatra would use like a papyrus 548 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: box full of live bees as like first analog. I 549 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: saw a hollow gourd that she filled with these and 550 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: that was the first legend says that was the first 551 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: vibrator um, which I have never wanted to get off 552 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: enough to put live bees anywhere close to my body. 553 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: But if they seriously high road people, Diana, geez, Cleopatra 554 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: better than it was a different world. She had different 555 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: things available to her, different things available, So true, Well, 556 00:35:52,120 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: what mean yeah, if you feel us for words, I 557 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: think you have perfect timing, my friend, because we're finally 558 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: getting to a little bit of poetry. And what I 559 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: love about this kind of poetry is that just like uh, 560 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: Beethoven's really dirty songs about farting and stuff, it proves 561 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: that people back then we're not really different from people today. Uh. 562 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, in school we read about we read about 563 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: the the high falutine noble stuff. But I I think 564 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we miss just how potty humor the 565 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: human population is. I kind of compare it to like 566 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: you think your dad didn't look at porn, but he 567 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: definitely looked at porn, I mean, and his father and 568 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: just and on and on through the generation. I mean, 569 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: that's very true. I think that's an interesting thing about 570 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: history is remembering that people loved to have sex, people 571 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: love to make jokes. I remember listening to a Noble 572 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: Blood episode that podcast Noble Blood is very good, and 573 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: she was talking about reading some people. She was like, 574 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: historians take this story really seriously as this like leader 575 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: being a bit to her like whatever. But she's like, 576 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: it's actually clearly a practical joke if you look at 577 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: it as a prank, It's just a funny thing she 578 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: was doing with her court. I have to remember that 579 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: people did did play jokes on each other back in 580 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: the day where it's fully stoic all the time and 581 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: winning wars or whatever. Um. But yes, speaking of etymology, 582 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: I know you're an etymology fan, nol, but the actual 583 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: the word I do love etymology myself, But the word 584 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: dildo came from our friends, the Italians. Thank you, thank 585 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: you Italy. It came from the word do letto, meaning 586 00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: to delight. Makes sense it and glide and delight the 587 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: three things the double D sound is always just a 588 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: fun It's a delight to say dil dodo. It sounds 589 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: like like a real, real silly goofy thing. Yeah, so 590 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: I've got to ask, so uh beat behind the curtain 591 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: folks for years, always trying to convince our bosses to 592 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: let me do an etymology show right in and tell 593 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: them we should uh and that the four of us 594 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: will do it. I'm volunteering everybody here. We need your help. 595 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: But this reminds me another another word that came into 596 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: English usage from Italian is uh dilettant, and I think 597 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: it has the same ultimate route right to do. So 598 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: my question is, even though now we call dilatant, you know, 599 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: we call the definition a lover of the arts or whatever. 600 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: Um did it mean dildo people in the beginning, a 601 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: lover of the dildos? It's people who had way too 602 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: many in their dildo orium whatever. Like she has a 603 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: whole other room. Guys, why would I needlock I don't 604 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: even have ad dildo let alone, MANI it would accommodate 605 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: an entire rack. We'll be adding another wing onto the palace. 606 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, we have a really wonderful, hilarious body poem 607 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: about kind of about the Italian influence here. It was 608 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: by John Wilmot, who was the second Earl of Rochester, 609 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: and he was apparently well known for his lewd poetry 610 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: that he would write. And um, we pulled out some 611 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: select verses from kind of a long poem called signor 612 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: Dildo that he wrote. That's that's Mr right, Mr Dildo. 613 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I say, let's head on down to poetry 614 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: corner and he signor Dildo by John Wilmot. You would 615 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: take him at first for no person of note, because 616 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: he appears in a plain leather coat. But when you 617 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: his virtuous abilities, no you'll fall down and worshiped signor Dildo. 618 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: My lady southesk heaven prosper her fort. First clothed him 619 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: in satin, then brought him to court, but his head 620 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: in the circle he scarcely durst show so modest a 621 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: youth was signor Dildo, the Countess of Foul myth of 622 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: whom people tell a footman wear shirts of a guinea, 623 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: and Hell might save that expense if she did, but 624 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: know a lustier swinger is signor Dildo, who the pattern 625 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: of virtue, Her grace of Cleveland has swallowed more bricks 626 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: than the ocean has will slant rhyme right there. I 627 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: gotta get in credit that this has said Cleveland has sat. 628 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: But by rubbing and scrubbing so wide does it grow. 629 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: It is fit for just nothing but the senior dildo. 630 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: Our dainty fine duchesses have got a trick to dote 631 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: on a fool for the sake of his brick. The 632 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: fops were undone, did their graces, but no, the discretion 633 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 1: and the vigor of senor dildo. This senior is sound safe, 634 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: ready and dumb as ever was candle, carrot or thumb 635 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: been away with these nasty devices and show how you 636 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: rate the just merit of seeing your dildo. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. 637 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: So I want to point out just two things real quick. First, 638 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: dumb in that last first great read everybody wait three things, um. Second, 639 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: dumb in this sense most likely just means silent, but 640 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: it works, it works very well. Yeah, congratulations himbo. So 641 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: I also, I don't think we said this in the beginning, 642 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: as we were excited about talking about this off air. 643 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: Um Diana Eli. This is not the full poem. These 644 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: are excerpts. Have it in the notes as select versus 645 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: from this poem. My question is how long is this poem? 646 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: Is he just likes pre television exactly. I had nothing 647 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: else to do. So this ship went on for like 648 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: I think it was like eighteen or nineteen same any 649 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: name dropped so many people, and I'm like, I hope 650 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: they're real, Like were they here listening? Like are you 651 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: trying to say that I have swallowed more pricks than 652 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: the ocean has sand? So he's specifically checks people. Well, 653 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: this is I don't know if there are real people, 654 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: but I think so. I think I think he is 655 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: at least referring some because this happened a lot in 656 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: uh in aristocratic circles, they would write stuffs are roasty, 657 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: kind of like they would they would be writing stuff 658 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: that's like, you know, they put a different name on it, 659 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 1: but everybody knew who you meant. You know, you meant 660 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: that slutty chick over there, you know, yeah, exactly, So 661 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: it was always like some under some shade. One thing 662 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: I love about this style of poetry is it's so 663 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: smug and self satisfied, like just like I'm gonna do 664 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: the thing again, like at the end of it, you know, 665 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, like the fact that there's like 666 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: the fact that there's so many more stanzas to this 667 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: that we left out, just hammers that home even for 668 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: uh right on the head. I am just so delightfully 669 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: body and uh and hilarious. That's what this guy's doing. Yeah, 670 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: he was very proud of this poem. I'm sure very 671 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: excited to share with all the ladies that he was 672 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: talking about. It's like, hey, I put you in my poem. 673 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you? What man? You read it first? 674 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: You should come to the show. I also wonder if 675 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: the Countess of Falmouth was like, oh, so I don't 676 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: have to funck my footman and give him nice stuff. 677 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: I could just get me a little toy to put 678 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: in the house. This this is also this is where 679 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: we see like a turn. So it's widely accepted, even 680 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: though it might be a little edgy. Right. Uh, this 681 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: guy's doing insult comedy tail as old as time. Right. 682 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: But as as you guys have been telling us before, 683 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,959 Speaker 1: eventually there was there was a time where a guys 684 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: started to promote uh dudes, I mean specifically started to 685 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: associate when they ran a smear campaign against still those right, 686 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: it's promiscuity. It's a v D. But at the same time, 687 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 1: for the entire time, dudes had their their own toys, 688 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: right and uh, Eli, I'm just I'm gonna have to 689 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: go hashtag no pun left behind because it's sincere. When 690 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: you at the very top of the show said male 691 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: insecurity because it's been a long day for me, I 692 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: thought you meant a male hyphen eye in space security. Yeah. 693 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with that pun, but 694 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 1: I don't want to leave it out in the cold. 695 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, like a guard, some guard who can't 696 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: uh you knows romantics, help us out. Just explain that 697 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: pun to us, the punt. So, uh, this is fascinating 698 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: because we haven't talked about something that, uh is apparently 699 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: quite popular. I feel weird saying it. I feel like 700 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: my mom's going to come back and find me if 701 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: I say this. Cock Rings, Yeah, but they're old to dude, 702 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: my favorite I do one of my favorite MR Show sketches, 703 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: like a fake commercial. It's like cock ring warehouse. Any 704 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: cock will do, but they're like so bored that they're like, 705 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: come on down to the cock ran. All the cock 706 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: ran new and used cock rings vintage. Yeah, I like it. 707 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: I love that. It's hilarious, it's fantastic. But yeah, they 708 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: are actually pretty old school cock rings. They have been 709 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: around for a long time. Um part partly, I guess 710 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: because of that male in security, because they're supposed to 711 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: help you achieve or keep an erection for longer. So 712 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: it's not kind of part of I guess that where 713 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: they're like, I need something to like make sure UM 714 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: given her the goods. It's about edging. That's the term 715 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: you're sort of keeping yourself. It's almost like a tantric 716 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: thing where you're sort of like holding back. You know, 717 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to not you know, climax in two point 718 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: five seconds, right, trying to give it some time. There's 719 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: a book called The Book of Kink Sex Beyond the 720 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: Missionary by Ava Christina, and it says that in the 721 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: Gin and Song Dynasties in China around a d D, 722 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: they would make cock rings out of a goat's eyelid 723 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: because it's already a circle of skin, and then they 724 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: would leave the lashes on the favorite a little tickly. 725 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: Can I just say the things we've done to goats 726 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: on this show, even when we went on your show 727 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: last time for Valentine's Day, we put goats through Yeah, 728 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 1: there's some goat vivisection involved in one of those rituals 729 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: that we talked about. It was the goat skins a lot. 730 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: The hell we had a guy marry a goat in 731 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: a recent episode that we talked about that. But yeah, 732 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: that we just we're we're putting goats through it. Yeah. Well, 733 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: it's part of a long history too of looking to 734 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: the natural world for things that are thought to in 735 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: one way or another enhanced sexual performance. Right, And even 736 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: that even exists today with the various different unproven or 737 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: disproven stories that say, hey, you know what, this thing 738 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: is an aphrodisiac. I know it sounds crazy, but just 739 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: let this guy slap you with a goat skin a 740 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: couple of times and then come back and thank me. 741 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: Just come back, and this entire goats testicle, yeah, will 742 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: imbute you with the power of the Why is it 743 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: always the most disgusting, smelly, like unappetizing things that are 744 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: like this will really turn you on. They're like otherwise 745 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,879 Speaker 1: it's trash. I've got to make it as a sex 746 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: or something. Just do tend push ups today. You know, 747 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: well there's a lot and they're like, no, I don't 748 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: have time. It's going down in the next room. Just 749 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: give me the goat, give me the goat cock ring. 750 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: Now you're right to. I mean, like, I mean, I 751 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 1: think I love oysters, but they're obviously really unappetising. It 752 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: was it was Hemingway said something like was very brave 753 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: was the man who first ate an oyster? You know, 754 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: like that's meant meant to be an effort. Yeah, I'm 755 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 1: acquired taste, for sure. I do don't know about that. 756 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if I eat an oyster. I mean like, 757 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: and I don't know they think about garlic too, but 758 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: that's another one. I'm like, does anyone eat a bunch 759 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: of garlic and go yes? I can't want to mash 760 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: my mouth up against hers. I smelled you across the room, 761 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: and I knew it was a cloud. So you know, 762 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in being honest and transparent about learning, 763 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go out and say it. I don't 764 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 1: care if I embarrassed myself. I not know that goat 765 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: eyelash cockerings were a thing I must have. I must 766 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 1: have missed that day. M p and I apologize to everyone. 767 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: It was a whole day of health class kept nudging you, 768 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: but you were sound asleep. How would you fall asleep 769 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: during that last stayed away for the etymology, but not this? 770 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: So what we all? This also makes me think of 771 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: um things that people have done, and this I do 772 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: know about thinks people have done in pursuit of enhanced 773 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: sexual pleasure. Uh, including what I would call minor surgery. 774 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: Because guys, we can say this as dudes, We'll do 775 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: a lot of crazy stuff if they think it gives 776 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: them just an edge, just litch. Really you have this 777 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 1: covered there. But like you know, I mean the Prince 778 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: Albert literally was created by Prince Albert. You know, you 779 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: know it's obviously a piercing yeah, through the the through 780 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: the urethra, and out the bottom of the of the head. 781 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: It's terrifying prospects, incredibly chainful, not worth it, but I 782 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: guess it is for some I don't know. I don't know. 783 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to yunck anyone's um, but you know, 784 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: these are some of the ones that you you found, Diane. 785 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: I think are maybe a little more like impermanent, yes, fortunately, 786 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: but still painful. I don't know, but yeah, there's this 787 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 1: book called Woman and Historical Gynecological and Anthropological Compendium from 788 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: and it's by Hermann Heinrich Ploss, Max Bartel's and Paul 789 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: Bartels and they say that this goat eyelash cock ring 790 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: thing may have originated in the Indonesian Islands and not 791 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: in China, so that's a little bit in dispute. And 792 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: they also noted from various tribes worldwide sex aids like 793 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: inserting a brass wire into the penis or putting little 794 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: goal old and silver beads under its head, all right, 795 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: and then binding it up with a bit of bird 796 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 1: down to tickle the sex partner at the same time. Okay, folks, 797 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm out. You wouldn't put a silver ball in your 798 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 1: penis for me? No, no, I don't need to hesitate 799 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: on that one. That's just a flat no. Okay, Okay, 800 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: that's fair. I wouldn't ask it of you to be fair, 801 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: thank you. Um. Yeah, so that was an option that 802 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: you could do. Again, I think that's a ribbed for 803 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: her pleasure thing, trying to make your dick more special, 804 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: I guess, or something. I mean, sticking a brass why, 805 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: I guess that's for rigidity that we're thinking, so you 806 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: can kind of bend it into shapes like a paper 807 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 1: clip animal. Oh oh wow, like a like a paper clip. 808 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: I can see how that would be possible. But I'm 809 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: having a tough time with the motivation, you know what 810 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: exact Yes, I don't know. There might be some people 811 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: out there with very fascinating little giraffes they've built out 812 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: of their dicks. Well, I guess I'll look at a 813 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: gallery of it, but not for long. Um, yeah, well 814 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: I would. I would think also then that aside from 815 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: those kind of traditions, we already see the idea of 816 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,280 Speaker 1: wanting to be associated with wealth like gold and silver, 817 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: the beads, um, But what about did they ever move 818 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: on from the goat eyelash thing? Like? How how much 819 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: of history have I missed? I guess I'm asking was 820 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,280 Speaker 1: this was just like a thing that you knew about 821 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: or like no, no, no, no no. I mean definitely 822 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: I was aware that, like I think early condoms were 823 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 1: made of sheep skin. But that's the that's the degree 824 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: to which I was aware of using animal flesh on 825 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: your member. Um. But then you know, then you get 826 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: into what was this the Burmese bell Burmese bells. That's 827 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: a kind of the next the next level of this, right, yeah, 828 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,040 Speaker 1: this is another really interesting one. And this one to 829 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: be placed either inside the vagina prior to sex or 830 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: in the penis um. I guess it was like, yeah, yeah, 831 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 1: it's very good for your vaginal health. Um. But they 832 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: were called exertion bell or Burmese bells. And this again 833 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: we're in the Ming dynasty, so this is a lot 834 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: of ancient Chinese, uh sex aids, I guess. And they 835 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: were kind of copper or gold bell or ball shaped 836 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: objects that contained the sperm of a mythical Burmese bird 837 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: and apparently had to catch the sperm with like a 838 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: fake woman made of straw. There's like a whole, yeah, 839 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: a whole complicated process to getting this sperm. And the 840 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: Ching scholar Chao E describes holding one of these in 841 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: his hand and he said, quote, I found that as 842 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: soon as it had become a little warm, it started 843 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: to move on its own account, and a tiny sound 844 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 1: emanated from it as and as I put it back 845 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: on the table, the sound ceased. Oh god, I hope 846 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 1: the sound was like, oh, that would be fun. It 847 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 1: was like, I know what you're about to do. But 848 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: that was the one like the bees where I was like, 849 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: if something starts to jump around and make its own noise, 850 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I would not put it inside my body. Yeah. 851 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: I didn't go there, Ben, I was immediately just thought 852 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: this sperm is haunted sperm man, which some people would 853 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: be into. It's true. Hey, I think we've done them 854 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: on this very show, or we will we will yeah. Um, well, 855 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: Ben and Nol, we have taken a good bit of 856 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: your time today and we're so excited that you were 857 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: able to come out and join us. Uh and an 858 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 1: absolute pleasure. There's so much more, There's so much more 859 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: to talk about, and we're very excited you guys are 860 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 1: going to come back and join us again for the 861 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,280 Speaker 1: next episode. We're going to be getting into uh, sex 862 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: dolls and where they came from, the chastity Belt and 863 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: the myths around it, um and and more lots of 864 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 1: fun stuff. Um. We didn't even get to take you 865 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: guys to Speculation Station yet, but we will. Well, we 866 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: kind of went into Speculation Station a few times without everything. 867 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 1: That's okay, But again, thank you so much for coming 868 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: on the show. Do you want to tell everybody you know, 869 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 1: any listeners we have that I don't know you guys 870 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: know where to find you? Yeah? Yeah, First off, I 871 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: think we're I think we're both thrilled to hear that 872 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: we get a second date with Ridiculous Romance. Things are 873 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 1: moving kind of quickly and we're into it. We know 874 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 1: about the coat, eyelash rings about Yeah, we know about 875 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 1: there we go. 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