1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: I Am all In. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Oh, let's you. 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: I Am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: of other productions iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcast. One on 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: one interview with none other than Cameron Bender and he 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: played the ta in season seven, episode fourteen. Let me 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: tell you something. A little bit about Cameron. He was 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: in one episode of Gilmore Girls. He portrayed the tear 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: tuck Tucker Colbertson, who filled in for Richard's economics class 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: at Yale when Richard was in the hospital. Here's a 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: little something about Cameron. He's an actor. He worked in 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: television for most of his Career's career began in the 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: early two thousands with credits on Buffy the Vampire Slayers 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: Sabrina the Teenager, which popular CSI crime scene investigation. He 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: continued to work on TV, appearing in Ritzolian Isles, American Housewives, 17 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: That did ten episodes of the ABC show Mistress, and 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: more recently on an episode of Fuller House. In an 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: episode of the sx FX show Min's MC, you were 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: a badass biker? Oh wow, No, no, not at all. 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: No, I was an ATF agent. 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Gotcha? Oh yeah, all right, square tell us how you 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: got the role on Gilbour Girls. 24 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: How I got the role on Gilmore Girls. Well, first of. 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: All, his name is Tucker Culbertson, and I'm actually shocked 26 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 4: that I got this part on Gilmore Girls because obviously 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: the most important thing about the show, well not the 28 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: most important thing, but one of the great things about 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: the show is everyone speaks very clearly and distinctly, and 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: it's just rapid, rap it, rapid. That's my biggest weakness 31 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: is speaking clearly. And so I came in and I 32 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: can't believe I actually got the part because in the 33 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: in the callback, I said, Tucker Colbertson, who came up 34 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: with that name? I think I said it kind of 35 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: like that whoever came up with the name was in 36 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: the room, because everything got really quiet and cold, and 37 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, you know that that moment where 38 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: you were like I should just leave. 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: That was I do know that moment. 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 4: But I did it anyway, and for some reason, they 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: they they hired me. 42 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: So I was fucky, Well, you made an indelible impression 43 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: on h On Rory, that is for sure. So we 44 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: meet you at Yale. Yes, you're filling in for Richard's 45 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: econ class. Yes, the roy is taken by your looks 46 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: and charm. 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: That's about Yeah. 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: So what was it like playing the role? Do you 49 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: enjoy it? Oh? 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 2: I loved it. 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: I loved it, But I do have to throw out 52 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: a little story beforehand, before before filming. Well no, I 53 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: guess this was actually after filming, but before they aired it. 54 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 4: But they took this picture of me, a still of 55 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: me on set, and it's the one they used on 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 4: IMDb for the episode. That's a picture of me. It's 57 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: not a great picture. It's not very flattering. And I 58 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: wandered onto a message board. 59 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: This is pre Reddit. 60 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: This is pre like a bunch of Internet was the 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: Internet was the Internet, but it wasn't like their Facebook 62 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: wasn't around yet, and they had that picture up to 63 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: like promote the episode, and everyone on the on the 64 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: message board said, this guy is ugly. 65 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: What's happening? 66 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: What like the alien? And I and so I chimed in, 67 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, this is not a great picture. He is 68 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 4: pretty ugly in this picture, but to be fair, it's 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: me and I think I film better maybe in motion, Like, 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: please watch the episode it's amazing. Alexis is amazing. It's 71 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: a really, really, really great episode. So I didn't take 72 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: it personally because how would they know that. I was 73 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: like lurking, and I don't get that. 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: I felt. I mean, obviously, you're not ugly, you're a 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: You're an attractive young fella. 76 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: Well. 77 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: Enough enough that Rory was interested. But yeah, yeah, I mean, so. 78 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: What was it like working with Alexis because those scenes 79 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: were really terrifically played. 80 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: On Oh thank you. 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: She was such a delight, Like, I'm sure you've worked 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: on shows where the ones and two's aren't always welcoming, 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: or maybe this was the seventh season the episode that 84 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: I was, and by that time, sometimes they're just tired 85 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: of being there. 86 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: It's so true. Yes, it's the exhaustion of. 87 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: It's just kind of like, oh, another new guy to 88 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 4: come in. Nice, It's like, okay, yet another person that's 89 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: not going to be here for a day. I'm not 90 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 4: going to expend any energy. She couldn't have been more 91 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: opposite of that. 92 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: She was so. 93 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: Kind and welcoming and right away wanting to know if 94 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 4: I wanted to run it a couple of times, and 95 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: so that was the first day like when we meet 96 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: in the classroom. 97 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: The second day, when we meet in the in the. 98 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: Bookshop, she was even more Like I felt even more 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: a part of the family. That was the number one 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: thing that I felt coming down to this set. And 101 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 4: like I said, being on other sets where I'm just 102 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: a day player, you know, it's it's just one day 103 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: on there and there. There's one in particular, and I'm 104 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: not naming any names, but the one. I had a 105 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: scene with both one and two, and the one was awesome, 106 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: and when we were doing light checks or moving the camera, 107 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 4: they were talking to me about Pixar movies and we 108 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: were just like making small talk and she made me. 109 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: Feel really comfortable. 110 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: But the one, I'm sorry, but the two didn't want 111 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: me talking in between takes. They had a different process. 112 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: It's there, it's their show. But this was probably seven 113 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: or eight on their number season of them, and they 114 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: didn't want they didn't you know, they didn't welcome me there. 115 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: So I just shut up and kind of did my job. 116 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: But with Alexus, totally different. She was just a delight. 117 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 4: It was really really fun. 118 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's different on different shows. I know what 119 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: you mean. I've been through that too. Yeah where you 120 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: know where, especially on a big hit show if you're 121 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: just guesting. Yeah, And you know, I've had similar experiences. 122 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: Some have been great, some have been like, oh, I 123 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: have too much energy, I am too excited to be 124 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: here and it's tiring them out. So calm down, Scott, 125 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 126 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: You know, I got I tried the one time I tried. 127 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: I didn't know one time to be less Tom Cruise 128 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: because I was like, you're really smiling. I'm so happy 129 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: to be there. They're like, yeah, you just need to 130 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: that's not what the scene is. 131 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: Right right, act like you've been there both. 132 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 133 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: I know it's hard to do. It's hard to do 134 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: when you get. 135 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: It's so fun. 136 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun. Yeah. You know. I remember going 137 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: into those uh sitcom uh stages and rehearsing and just 138 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: having so much fun. And you know, I wasn't jaded yet, 139 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, it's oh, it's just a job. 140 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I've got all this money, and I've 141 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: got this house, and I've got you know, all these 142 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: responsibilities and I want to get back to my life 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: and I don't want to be here and you know, 144 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: this kind of attitude that that inevitably creeps in for 145 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people, but it's just yeah, for us, 146 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: it's just fresh and exciting and you want to do 147 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: great work, so we do. You know. It's it's like 148 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: and you're nervous. There's a nervousness part about it, like 149 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: am I going to be able to pull this off? Right? 150 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: You know? Right? Because I remember going on Seinfeld it 151 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: was like I was terrified. I was excited. I knew 152 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: I could do it, but it was like, wow, once 153 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: once we started getting into the filming part of it 154 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: on the friday, it was like, this is serious business. 155 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you don't want to be the one to 156 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: mess it up because. 157 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, I know, I know how that is. Man, 158 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: that's that's all right. So so this is season seven. 159 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Did you know the series before you auditioned? 160 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: I didn't. I watched a bunch before before filming. 161 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: Hey look, man, I'm not gonna take it personally. It 162 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: was really nice talking we're gonna end this. 163 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely, you know, it's it's it was. 164 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: It was always the kind of an obscure show, right. 165 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: It's such a loyal following, right, But but if it's 166 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: not your cup of tea, it's not your cup of tea. 167 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 4: Well, I fell in love with the show, and did 168 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: I did become uh started watching it avidly, and. 169 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: I just. 170 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: It's such it was such a touchstone type of show, 171 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: like for the people that discovered it, it was so 172 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: special and I think maybe there this kind of ownership 173 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: of like not everybody knows this, but the people that 174 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 4: do that, the people that get it, like just get it. 175 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 4: And there's there's this whole new generation that's discovering Gilmore Girls. 176 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: I've talked to so many friends with daughters with sons 177 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: that who are twelve thirteen watching it on Netflix and 178 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: they love. 179 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 2: It, like it it's. 180 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 4: Universal, but it really is like it's the connection obviously 181 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: between the two of them, but like just the family atmosphere, 182 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 4: and it. 183 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: Really speaks to everyone. 184 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: There's just that connection and those relationships and it's a 185 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: really lovely There's so many shows that are kind of. 186 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: Challenging or rough or. 187 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: Edgy, dark edgy, You're dark, and this didn't need that 188 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: to really connect with people, and it's it was great 189 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: just to be an even small part of that. 190 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, amazing, what a delightful harmless, h hysterically funny 191 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: show with heart will do you know? Yeah, it's not 192 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: rocket science. You know, it's like, you know, give the 193 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: people what they want, and this is what they need 194 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: and they want, you know, revisited Golden Age. Yeah, so 195 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: you're from Michigan. I am what what part of Michigan? 196 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 2: I see a hat back there? Is that Missouri or 197 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 2: is that a Michigan. 198 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: That's a Michigan hat. I did a convention in uh Nova, 199 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: Michigan outside. Yeah, I know, the people are so fantastic 200 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: and they gave lots and hats and you know, I've 201 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: watched plenty of Michigan football and TV. I appreciate it. 202 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: Well, I went to the other school. I went to 203 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: Michigan State. 204 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay, you're spartan, but for me, I was 205 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 4: I was sparty. 206 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: I was the mascot. 207 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: Is that right? 208 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: Yes? So I kind of lead green and white and yeah, 209 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: that was really really fun. 210 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: So Michigan and I are for enemies, but it's fine, 211 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: Like I I appreciate how great that school is. 212 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and where where's Michigan State located? 213 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: Michigan State's right in the middle in East Lansing. So 214 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: Lansing is the capital. Of course, if you're from Michigan, 215 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: show on your hand on a podcast, no one can 216 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: see that. 217 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: But I'm from a small town called Midland. 218 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 4: Which is about it's right in the middle, right, it's 219 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: right there in the name Midland. 220 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: So so when did you know you wanted to be 221 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: an actor? 222 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: By the way, I always did school plays, let's say, 223 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: always loved to be the lead all the way through 224 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: junior high and through high school. And I actually went 225 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: to State on a journalism scholarship because I was like, 226 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: I like sports journalism. I really like sports. I want 227 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: to get into sport journalism and then to be to 228 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: be totally honest, I watched a few good Men and 229 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: I watched Tom Cruise, and I was like, I could 230 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: do that. Not in not in a backhanded compliment, I 231 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 4: was like, I want to do that. 232 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: I watched him do that. I was I, Yes, that's it, that's. 233 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: What I want to do. And I took like one 234 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 4: class in journalism. I was like, I don't want to 235 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: do this, So I just went all in on on 236 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: film and acting. 237 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: And did that take you to New York? Did it 238 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: take you to la to study? 239 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: Actually we made some films at Michigan State. 240 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: And then the people that I made the films with 241 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: moved out to LA and so I moved in with 242 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: one of them, but started making connections. We had like 243 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 4: a little community already out here, and they've all gone 244 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: on and one of them ran DC for a while, 245 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 4: and they've all done amazing things all over the place. 246 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: But one of them ran d C Studios. 247 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: Or like d oh oh d C, like the like 248 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: the d CU. They are you for the while? 249 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So what are you working on these days? 250 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: What am I working on these days? 251 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: Well? 252 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: I wanted first of all, I wanted to thank you 253 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: for inviting me to this. I wanted to thank you 254 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: for inviting me to this because it made me, uh 255 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: tick stock. 256 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: What am I working on right now? What am I 257 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: working on these days? What? What's my why right now? 258 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: Being here? 259 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: Because it's tough, Like you know, it's not easy after 260 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: the pandemic and after the strike, this town is really 261 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: really difficult. But I found my gratitude thinking about this. 262 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: So you, your invitation brought me to a place of 263 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: I'm so lucky. We are so lucky. Even though this 264 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: is tough, the tough has all been worth it because, 265 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: like we were saying, it's fun. But last week I 266 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: had an audition in person, and it's the second one 267 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: that I've had since the pandemic started. And I had 268 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 4: to change into a suit in the car, and back 269 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: when I was a younger actor, I would do that 270 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: five times a day. I don't know if you remember 271 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: those days. And I didn't appreciate it. Then I thought, 272 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: this is kind of a burden, this is kind of 273 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: but it took me back there and I was so 274 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: excited and energized and I was having and I had 275 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: so much fun in this audition and I walked out 276 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: not worrying about whether I booked. 277 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: It or not. Can you say what it was for? 278 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 4: It's for Kathy Bates, is Matt Locke? Okay, they were amazing. 279 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: It was just I was so I was trying not 280 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: to like vibrate in the room. I was just trying 281 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: to be centered and present and it was just really, 282 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: really fun. And it took me back to again to 283 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: be grateful for these opportunities that we have out here. 284 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: And what I'm working on right now is I'm currently 285 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: in an acting class that I'm helping coordinate with this 286 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: amazing coach that I love, and I've done it since COVID, 287 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: since the pandemic, and we had this core of amazing actors, 288 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: and we're starting to take take the scenes and characters 289 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 4: that we've come up with and starting to film them 290 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: because I found that creating stuff with people that I 291 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: love is like my happy place. It's always been that way, 292 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 4: and that's kind of bringing back to Gilmore Girls. That's 293 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: how I felt when I came onto the set. I 294 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: could tell everybody there was a family, and there was 295 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: a shorthand and and everyone really loved each other and 296 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: watching all of you create something together was a beautiful thing, 297 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: and just to being a part of that was a 298 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: wonderful thing. So what I'm working on right now is 299 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 4: trying to create content with my friends just for us, 300 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: even if it never gets shown anywhere, but just that 301 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 4: that action of creating things, filming things, writing and editing 302 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: and just the entire process. I'm just in love with 303 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 4: all of it. And that's kind of what I'm up to. 304 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm auditioning. I'm auditioning, but I'm not putting. 305 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 4: I'm having as much fun as I can with that. 306 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: But trying to create things just to like keep the 307 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: fires burning right now. That's that's where I'm at. 308 00:17:53,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: That sounds terrific. Good luck with all of that. We're 309 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: going to play rapid fire right now. You're ready. 310 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: I'm ready. 311 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you have to be rapid. 312 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: I'll try to be thoughtful a little bit. 313 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. How do you like your coffee? 314 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: These are very difficult questions. By the way, you have 315 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: to have a Snoop dogg level I Q to even 316 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: deal with this. You're ready? How do you like your coffee? 317 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 4: I've met Snoop Dog. He actually is pretty bright. I 318 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 4: love Coldrew And uh. 319 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: That's it. You answered? That's great? All right? Sorry, no explanation. 320 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: Are you team Logan, Team Jess or team Dean? 321 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm team Tucker. 322 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: Who was your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and Laurels 323 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: are Emily. 324 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: And Richard, Luke and Laura? 325 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: I thank you very much. Would you rather work with 326 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: Michelle or Kirk? 327 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: Kirk? 328 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: Why? 329 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, do you? 330 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: You don't have to have a reason. 331 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: I don't have to I don't know, just a feeling. 332 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: Would you what would you order at Luke Steiner? 333 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 4: Whenever I go into any restaurant I always ask what 334 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: they recommend. So what would Luke recommend? Do you think 335 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: not to put you on the spot? Okay, burger fries, 336 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: animalted milkshake. 337 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: There you go. Who would you rather hang out with 338 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: Paris or Lane? 339 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: I guess Paris? I guess Paris. Yeah, because because. 340 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: The wonderful thing she does, the wonderful thing she does? Yes, 341 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Harvard or Yale? Or would you drop out and live 342 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: in the poolhouse? Oh? 343 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: Poolhouse? 344 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: For sure? You go for the poolhouse. 345 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: Sorry, Tucker, I'd live in the pause. 346 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: Would you rather attend to da r event with Emily 347 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: or a town meeting with Taylor? Dude? 348 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: Tell me anyone Taylor? 349 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: Okay, uh, you must like the sweat those were very 350 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: sweaty days. Gilmore Girl's characters that you would want as. 351 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: A roommate, Well, I really do believe that. 352 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I would really want to just want right, 353 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: who would I want to be? 354 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: I would want to be? 355 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: Come on, really truly come on. 356 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: My second My second. 357 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: Answer is I did think about this is bo Belleville 358 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 4: played by Nick Offerman, because I know Nick and his 359 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: character is hilarious. He is amazing and I got to 360 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 4: work in his wood shop right as I know he's 361 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 4: got a who he's hilarious, but his his character. 362 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: I just rewatched. 363 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: His his scenes there, his episodes of Only Kyle Bo's. 364 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: He seems like a classy dude. 365 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: So you're so you're tossing me off and you're. 366 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 4: No, no, maybe that's what you said the three of us, 367 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: that's what you said. I said, you said definitely Luke. 368 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: If and then you brought up ball so Luke. 369 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: Kicked me out. I'm just saying, I don't want to 370 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 4: know it is Luke. I want to live with Luke. 371 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: Something in your life you are all in on. 372 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 3: Something or someone something, well you could it could be 373 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 3: you know, something in your life you are all in 374 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: on that could include It would be my wife. 375 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: Okay, my wife, she's amazing. 376 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: Cameron, thank you for your time, good luck with everything. 377 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. 378 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: And I ask you a question, Yes, what have. 379 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 4: You learned from watching all of the watching the shows? Like, 380 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: what what have you taken from from watching this? 381 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: Well, I've never seen them before, so this is my 382 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: first experience seeing them. Just like when they get it 383 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: right in the writer's room, which is a lot of 384 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: the time, it's a remarkably high percentage of sort of 385 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: perfect great episodes. It just knocks me out how clever 386 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: and how witty and how dramatic and how funny and 387 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: engaging this show really is. But it really is. You know, 388 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: this is really such a writer's medium. I mean, they 389 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: are giving us these great this great dialogue and these 390 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: great situations that like I have been on several shows, 391 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: whether as a guest star or as a series regular, 392 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: where you're just thrilled by being in the situations that 393 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: you're being put in. You can't wait to get to 394 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: the set and like I get to act this, and 395 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: the better the situation you're in, the less you have 396 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: to act at all. And it's just the real joy 397 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: of it. And I've found that most of the episodes 398 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: that I have seen and we've done, you know, we're 399 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: almost done season seven. We're more than halfway through season seven. 400 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: We're almost finished our first round. We're gonna probably do 401 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: a second round. But just how many of the actors 402 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: must have felt the same way that I did, that 403 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: you get to come in and be in these situations 404 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: which are so wacky and zany and dramatically relevant and 405 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: comedic and just wonderful stuff. And I get it now. 406 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: I get why the fan base is so dedicated. I 407 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: get why they're so loyal. I get why people I mean, 408 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: I do conventions and they they all say to a person, 409 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: I have it on twenty four to seven. I have 410 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: it on when I'm going to sleep. I have it 411 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: all when I wake up. I have it all when 412 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: I come home. More I have it on at the 413 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: office when I'm cleaning it and I can't even hear it, 414 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: but I just want to know it's there. Yeah, it's like, 415 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, the characters in that show. The writing is 416 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: so good, and the characters on that show have become 417 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: parts of people's families, and that's how they view us 418 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: and see us and treat us. And it's a wonderful 419 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: experience meeting these fans because they invite you into their heart. 420 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: I mean they literally just grab on and hug you 421 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: and thank you. And it's a wonderful experience. And the 422 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: older I get, the better the experiences are because there's 423 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: more and more people, and like you said, they're younger 424 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: and younger. I get seven year old boys and girls 425 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: coming up and they're dressed as Luke and they and 426 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: they have all of these comments and compliments and just 427 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, the teenage girls start to tremble and they 428 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: start to cry and they get overwhelmed. It's it's just 429 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: an amazing experience. This show has been such an incredible gift. 430 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: And thank you for asking me the question, because I've 431 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: I've had some really good experiences because I was involved 432 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 1: in other shows, but nothing comes close to this. Nothing 433 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: comes close to this. This show means so much to 434 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: so many people around the world, and everywhere I am 435 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: in the world, I get recognized and people come up 436 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: and they and they whatever language they're speaking, and they're 437 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: really trying to speak English. I understand exactly what they're saying, 438 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: and I actually say the words for them and they 439 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: go yes, yes, yes, yeah, and amazing. It's just an 440 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: amazing healing show for the world. And you know, it's 441 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: like Netflix is out there churning out these episodes and 442 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: making them available. It's like medicine to the to the masses, 443 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's having a very positive effect 444 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: on people. 445 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: And I think we need more Gilmore girls. 446 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: And I think we do. I think it's a crazy 447 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: world out there. It's getting crazier all the time all 448 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: the time, and you know, one of the antidotes is 449 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: sit and watch a couple episodes of Gilmore Girls, You're 450 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: gonna feel better. So it's just kind of I knew 451 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: the show would be I knew the show would be 452 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: a hit. I didn't know how big a hit, but 453 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: I thought, this is going to run five years. I 454 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,239 Speaker 1: remember talking to Lauren Amy Sheir and Palladina through a 455 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: wonderful Christmas party every year at her house, and we 456 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: were lucky enough to be included in that. And she had, 457 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, people from previous shows she'd done and friends, 458 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: and it was just a wonderful mix of people, very 459 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: eclectic mix of people, wonderful people. And I remember Lauren 460 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: and I in the backyard talking about the show, and 461 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, we were predict how long it would go, 462 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: and I remember saying five years. I was wrong. It 463 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: was seven, and it probably could have been seventeen. Yeah, 464 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: you know, it could have still been going. But the 465 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: fact that it's grown into this sort of culturally significant, 466 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: you know show, and the characters in the show, and 467 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: the town and the you know, the ecosystem that the 468 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: show has has provided woven into the fabric of American culture, 469 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: and it's just a really nice feeling. It's a nice 470 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: feeling to have been, you know, a guy who was 471 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: sleeping in his car, you know, hoping to meet people, 472 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: and you know, had a theater resume, and I think 473 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: I can do this. And then one day, you know, 474 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: walking down the street, you know, a bunch of years 475 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: later and people getting all, uh, you know, hot under 476 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: the collar, and can I have your autograph? And can 477 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: we take a selfie with you? And it's and they 478 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: share these experiences that they've had and and you know, 479 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: very personal and deep experiences that they've had because they 480 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: consider you the family members, right, trust, trusted people, right, 481 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: but watching the show just just how great it is, 482 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: and uh, sometimes they you know, it's not perfect. And 483 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: I think when it goes off the rails, it really 484 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: goes off the rails because the bar is so high. Yeah, 485 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's like that hasn't 486 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: happened very often, but it happened once once or twice, 487 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: and that was shocking to see. But but it's just 488 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: it's the reality of network television and the demands put 489 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: on a writing staff to churn out. At that time, 490 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: it was twenty four to twenty two episodes. A year 491 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: of our long television. That's a lot of content, and 492 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: it's nine months of this and it's just so hard 493 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: to do, and nobody really does it anymore. Do the 494 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: ten episodes and you're out, and it's still a grueling schedule, 495 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: but it's not like a nine month schedule where you 496 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: literally have to take a month off and just sleep 497 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: and you can't really even think about going on a 498 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: vacation until you've slept for a month. And then you 499 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: feel like a person again. Right, You get out of 500 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: that actor's head and that actor's body, and then if 501 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: you're doing it, if you're lucky enough to have a 502 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: film on your hiatus, then you're just like, you know, 503 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: you're no downtime, there's no downtime. Yeah. So I just 504 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: blown away by how clever the show is and how 505 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: well done it is and how they did it with dialogue. Anyway, listen, 506 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: thanks for your time, really appreciated. Good luck with everything, okay, 507 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: and hope to me at you one day. 508 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 5: All right, me too, alright, man, all right, take care, 509 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 5: all right, take care bye bye 510 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at 511 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: I Am all In Podcast and email us at Gilmore 512 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio dot com.