WEBVTT - 12_24_Talkin.mp3 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:04.280 The following. 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.320 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.080 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.000 Cowboys. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:18.440 This He's Talking Cowboys Spring Live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:19.640 World head Boys. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:20.680 At the Star in Frisco. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:28.160 Touchdown Seconds, dot ticks Today, Touchdown. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:34.120 And Now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:39.199 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:43.519 It's a Christmas Eve edition of Talking Cowboys presented by 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.800 Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.760 Texas and the s WBC Studios. Welcome in everybody, as 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.280 we wish you a merry Christmas. 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Gentlemen, 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.800 Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, Christmas Eve. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:25.080 Yeah, Merry Christmas Eve. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.039 Queeze moying this. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:28.920 Big Christmas for you. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:30.440 It is a big Christmas for me. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:30.960 Oh yeah. 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.240 First with all three we had like our first guys, 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.320 both big Christmases. We uh, you've got your first. 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:37.679 One in the house, first one in the house. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.800 Yeah, you got your tree up, you got the lights up. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:41.920 We do, we do, but we're not doing it at 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:42.800 the house. You know what I'm saying. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:43.959 You're not hosting this year. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:45.880 No, yeah, it's too far. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.200 We're hosting for the first time. Or we hosted last 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.960 year because Lorena was pregnant and we were like, look, 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.080 look it's easier for you guys to just come here, 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.040 like she's got three babies to carry around. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:55.360 Yeah. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.720 Yeah, Now we actually have three babies to carry around. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.240 So we're hosting again this year, so we'll congratulations the men. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.000 Next year is gonna be crazy for two nuts in 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.880 every year, it's gonna ramp up because then they're gonna 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.840 not want like hot wheels or barbies. They're gonna end 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.960 up wanting like tablets and everything. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:13.560 I was. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:20.000 Chris beam about, I wasn't even talking about financially. I 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.000 was talking about just in terms of like being able 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:29.640 to because right now they're not mobile. Next year, little 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.080 Superman on our nephews, your tree is definitely coming down. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.720 Next They're all three gonna just be climbing one. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.519 You got three culprits and it looked like Planet of 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.400 the Apes where they're climbing the towers of New York City. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:42.839 They're just gonna be all over the tree. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.280 Line them up, bro, put them all over there. They 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.280 just sitting looking at you like I didn't do it. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:47.520 Now I'm excited. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.040 We had our first like family event last night where 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.800 Nana bottom all gifts and we did it at her 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.960 her house and we went over there and it was so. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.240 Fun, Like it was just so fun getting to hang 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.880 out with everybody. I also brought you guys a little 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.960 something something some last time. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.440 I tried to do this on a holiday. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.240 I was a little late, but I brought some Santa 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:09.359 Christmas doughnuts. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.840 Say this, the Grinch went the Grinch. 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:13.320 You go ahead and go for it. 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.960 You pick it, you pick it out a little donut action. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.679 You know, we're talking to cowboys. Grinch. I think it's 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:19.840 Isaiah stand Basketball. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.760 My family calls me Coy, Isaiah. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:26.600 Coy wants to steal Christmas. Yeah, dude, Yeah, I'm sure 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:27.920 it's probably pretty heavy. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.919 Oh no, I see a Homer sits in one down there, 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:30.720 there's a Homer. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.040 Oh yeah, the pink one. Yeah, the pink sprinkle, pink sprinkles. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.160 All right, But merry Christmas, everybody. Hope you're enjoying your 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.160 holiday season. Get to listen to a little bit of 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.840 talking cowboys as well. Give us a call eight eight 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.240 eight eight five five two two nine seven. We're gonna 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:50.279 start taking some calls right now, starting with John in Alaska. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.320 John, whoa, we had you on last week. What's going on? 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:53.560 Man? 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:54.800 Thirty days of night? Let's go? 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.160 Yeah, good morning, good morning, Thanks for colling. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.240 Yeah. First of all, let me wish all of you 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.720 there in the studio and all of your listeners are 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.480 very very merry Christmas. And during this holiday season, everybody 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.000 should try to think about what makes them joyful and 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:13.800 what makes them happy and focus on that. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:14.880 Love it. 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.280 I agree you, John, love it abolutely Christmas looking like 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:18.000 a true Alaskan. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.200 I hope you're not traveling anywhere today. That's that's my 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.520 number one concern right now is all the people that 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:25.480 are traveling. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.160 Crystal weather in Alaska. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.120 Right, yeah, yeah, what's what's the temperature? 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.599 Surprisingly warm. It's at thirty four degrees. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:33.400 Right now, super warm. 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:34.640 Yeah for Alaska. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.480 That's pretty warm for Alaska, that's very warm. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:38.640 Night. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:45.200 Yeah, guys, I want to give thanks for the call. John, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.839 appreciate you as always. Uh, before we move on to 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.000 our next collar news and notes. There's no Patrick today, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:54.960 and I'm gonna be completely honest. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.560 It really wasn't a whole lot from yesterday. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:57.720 I'm doing anything around here. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:01.320 So Jerry talked this morning on the fan, I believe 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:02.360 did he did? He talk? 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.320 He did? He talked about Ceedee Lamb. As far as 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.320 the injury goes kind only with you up to CD. 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.799 Obviously he's playing through a lot of things. He's injured 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.440 that that shoulder is not getting any better. No, obviously 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.880 with the more playtime, obviously he keeps getting hit the 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:18.440 way that he is. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:25.839 Sorry, I spot you're fighting through it, just like, yeah, that's. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.680 Interesting, need another one another? 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.960 I have one, you have one, it's already gone. You 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.000 take another one if you want. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:37.120 Well, But that is a good point because if they 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:38.640 are going to leave it up to Cede Lamb, CD 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.200 is gonna play. I mean, that's just clearly he's proven 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:42.920 that already. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.040 We were in the box whenever he landed on that shoulder, 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.400 and the announcers in the box basically said, you know, 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.000 Ceedee Lamb is questionable to return. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.040 Not one play. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.560 Later, after literally the next play a TV time out, 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.599 he's back in the in Uh, that's right. In the 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.279 play gets it down to the one yard line, almost touchdown, 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.560 shakes off a couple of people, chase off a couple 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.039 of people with an injured shoulder, puts us back in 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:07.640 the game. Granted we didn't see him much in the 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:11.760 second half, but amazing that he powered through that he's 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.279 still playing, and he's obviously going to play in Philly. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.400 Yeah, there's no way to keep him out of Philly. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.640 The only way that he's not on the field is 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.200 if the training staff deems it best for him not 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.839 to be on the field, because I know he said, 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:26.960 he said, we'll leave it up to Seedee Lamb, We'll 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.599 leave it up to his pain, discrepancy and tolerance. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:34.279 But yeah, I think if he's able, he will be 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:34.760 on the field. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.400 You're not taking him off the field, no way, I agree, 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.640 no way, No how he also alluded to. Jerry Jones 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.800 alluded well, he was asked the question, as far as 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.839 Mike McCarthy goes, do we think he's going to retain 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.880 him for next season? Jerry Jones was very close to 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.080 the vest on that one. He didn't necessarily answer the question. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.039 He was talking about, Yeah, confidence in him now, you 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.039 know as we stand here and basically said, you know, 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.320 full stop, like talking about here and now, so not 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.760 necessarily looking towards the future. Sure, I'm sure he is, 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.000 but he's not telling anybody about it yet. And we've 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.720 talked about it many times here before. How do you 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.440 if we end up with a running record, or let's 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.200 say we end up eight to nine, you know, battling 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.560 through this season, how do you not give. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:16.200 To Micha McCarthy. 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.920 That's a question that we will be talking about for 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.000 a long time to come, obviously when the season ends. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:22.960 So that's where we're at. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:27.000 How soon after the season ends, Dallas Cowboy season it is, 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.640 will can we expect a decision? 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.080 Usually it's within like three or four days, like it'd 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:38.280 be really quick. So that I mean, the final game 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.000 of the year is either the fourth or the fifth 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.520 of January of course, the NFL has that last week 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.880 as TBD, and then they slot them all in the 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.080 place at the end of the time. I would expect 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.080 something either that Monday or Tuesday the sixth, or the seventh. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.840 I would assume Saturday, February eighth. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.800 Do you think it's further than that after the super 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.280 Bowl or close to the. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:07:59.800 Super Bowl, the day before the Super Bowl, the. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.360 Day before the Super Bowl. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.960 To hire a coach or to announcement, to make announce 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:07.679 what he's doing. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.400 Oh, I think it's gonna be way quicker than that. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.440 Even I'm just going based off of Jason Garrett. Yeah, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.200 same sort of deal. Contract ran out, they did not 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.040 renew him. You knew within the next two days after 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:19.960 the season was over. 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.200 So they don't wait on the coach very long. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.120 Then then you go on the then you go on 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.560 the search and you start finding who your next coach 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.200 is or you extend them, and then all of a 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.200 sudden you've got that conversation moving forward too. So I 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.000 don't think it would take very long. I think it'd 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:37.000 be literally the day or two after the season comes. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:37.280 To a close. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.640 Husban, could you sign Micah That might be a little 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.120 further that would be for the further out league. I 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:49.719 mean new league year is March fifteenth, Okay, so sometime 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.800 I got to look at the dates for twenty five. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.440 But the free agency and that sort of deal, I mean, 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.560 I think you can sign him at any point, but 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.520 I bet you it wouldn't happen until the league years changed. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.240 Interesting a little about the coaching decision on all the teams, 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.960 because they have those all Star games, right, all those 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.440 all the college All Star games in the Senior Bowl, Yeah, 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.200 all the Senior Bowls and Shrine Bowl. You will want 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:17.080 your coach yep to be present there, correct, and you're 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.400 coaching staff, yes, yeah, from that. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:21.400 Perspective a lot. 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.360 And that's that's why I think it will happen quick 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.800 because the Senior Bowl and the Shrine Bowl are the 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.400 final week of January. Final week, So that would give 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.520 you a month of either find a new head coach 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.960 and hire them or at least know who your new. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:37.880 Head coach is going to be. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.880 Uh, when you get to that point or Mike McCarthy's here, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:46.840 nothing changes, So I think let's keep on rolling. Let's 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.760 go to Nebby and Silver Spring, Maryland. Nebby, what's going 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.559 on you're on talking Cowboys man. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:10:03.880 Hi, guys, thank you so much for uh taking my call. Listen. 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:09.080 Uh uh. First of all, I want to say uh 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:17.240 that I I think so highly of Cooper uh BB 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:26.440 that I bought his jersey uh uh uh a few 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:38.000 weeks ago. Uh uh. But anyway, um I, I just 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:46.000 want to say that I I I I I. Even 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:52.520 though uhh we obviously won't be going to the playoffs 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:58.080 and therefore, of course uh will not win the Super 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:07.320 Bowl this year. Uh uh I, even even when that 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:17.400 is no longer a possibility, there's always something to uh 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:25.600 uh uh uh I'll play for because winning games uh 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:42.080 down the stretch, I can build momentum for next year. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:47.319 So I'm hoping that we win these last two games, 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:54.640 I have a winning season uh I and go off 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:59.080 seasons strongly. And also before I go, I just want 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:05.840 to say that, with all due respect to Mike Zimmer 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:16.320 uh uh, I'm hoping that uhl Al Harris will be 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:35.280 our defensive coordinator next uh a year next season. I 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.480 take care, thanks for being patient with me, and have 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:40.679 a great week. Bye. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.640 There we goes. Nevy Nev knows ball, of course always does. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.840 Now I agree with him. On one take so far, 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.679 and I disagree with him on the other time. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:58.200 I never do. Really, he knows and it's an opinion. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:58.600 I get it. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.000 I love Al Harris, I really do. But Mike Zimmer's 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:02.520 done enough to be your defensive. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:02.920 Coordinator next year. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:07.360 It's crazy how much the scripts flipped in regards to 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.960 Mike Zimmer. Oh yeah, how he's done this year with 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.600 the injuries at the defense specifically, it's crazy to see 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.560 him grow and now the players are obviously buying into it. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:19.320 They're all bought in. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.600 It's crazy talking to some of the guys after the game, 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.720 like you could see it like they it may not 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.080 have been there initially, and there might have been a 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.040 learning curve maybe a lot longer, and you could certainly 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.880 give him criticism for how long it took for these. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.640 Guys to pick that up. That's fair. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.240 But the way that they're playing now gives me kind 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.640 of like the first point where I agree with Nabby. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.000 I want to win these last two games. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.040 I want to build momentum going into twenty twenty five, 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.280 because if you win these last two games and you're 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.360 at nine to eight, you could be considered one of 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.640 the best, if not the best defense in football in 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.360 the back half of the season. There's a lot you 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.319 can go build off of from there, including. 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:02.120 With your defensive coordinator. M you don't want to win 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:02.920 the last two games. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.960 No, you definitely want to win the last two games. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.960 It's just not convinced. Holy Holy you know that that 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.280 I'm ready to rock with Zimmer yet, And I don't 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.200 know what it would really take to build. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:14.440 What is holding you back? 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:19.200 What I saw early? Same system? You know, I don't 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.920 know if it was guys not executing or I mean, 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.360 I don't know what. You have to go back and 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:24.760 look at it. I would have to go back. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.960 And talking to the guys. That's what they say. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.560 They say it's it was a lack of execution, not 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.800 necessarily a lack of scheme or preparation. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.360 Like you said about chun Zy Golsten when you guys 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.960 interviewed him for pregame live on dolls cobys dot com. Uh, 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.440 he was talking about early in the season where when 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.160 they would make a mistake, It's like, Okay, what would 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.360 dan Quinn have us do basically in this situation versus 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.560 buying into the new scheme that they're they What. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:47.080 Would Zimmer do. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:47.760 What would Zimmer do? 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.600 Yeah, it is, it's a. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:50.320 Little bit different. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:56.200 WWZD what do uh? I yeah, it's I mean, it's 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.120 obviously he has done a good enough job to at 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.480 least raise the question. Right before, it was not a question. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.680 Absolutely before it was like, oh, ces next. Now you 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.120 at least have to go back and look at his 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.520 body of work, and I think he's They have done 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.680 amazing these last four games whatever, it's been five games 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.640 since Mike has come back. But again, you have to 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.800 look at it and say, okay, is that because MIC's 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.360 back and everybody else is able to do what they do? 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.480 What if Micah is you know, low and behold, you know, 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.600 God forbid and Mike is hurt? Do you get the 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.320 same productivity out of this entire defense? 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:29.680 Probably? 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.760 Not right, so not good, but you know what I'm saying. 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.000 But you can say the same thing about any other 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.320 defense that has a high end talent. If the Cleveland 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.400 Browns defense without Miles Garrett is completely different, the San 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.880 Francisco defense without Nick Bosa is completely different, the Chargers 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.000 defense without Khalil or. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.360 Difference, Like there's like it's not even close. But so 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.000 I'm saying, like, how much weight are you putting on 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.280 that one individual a. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.080 Lot because he's one of the best, if not the 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:59.880 best kids. I mean, you're still second in defensive understanding. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.840 With the understanding that players get injured and things happen, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.480 contracts happen, players leave, you have to still have a 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.920 system in place that is effective enough to give you 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.040 give you an opportunity to win ball games. And that 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.680 system was not it was. 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.240 In place, it was not early. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.800 Is That's what I'm saying. Because of that, you have 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.160 to you can't just say, yeah, things are running hot 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:22.600 right now. You gotta roll with it, like you have 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.000 to now go back and look at us and what 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.560 was different? Was it execution? Was it just that we 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.440 were just getting tostedos? Right? You have to go and 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.000 really look at it and say, okay, what was the 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.960 major difference When you can't, I don't believe that you 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.440 can feel secure enough with somebody making that decision by saying, oh, yeah, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.800 once he's in place, we're good, because that's not the system. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:40.040 That is. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.440 That is one person impacting way too much of the. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:43.640 Game and they kind of pick it back of what 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.120 you're saying. If if that happens, you bring Mike zimmern 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.360 back and you lose Al Harris, I think you're gonna 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:49.880 get that either way. I think you are going to 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.400 get a step back in play because the secondary has been, 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.360 at least for me, consistent all the way through the year. 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:56.920 Sure, and. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.080 I can't foresee them, so I would love to have 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.440 Superman and Batman on my team. If it's only Batman, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.960 and then there's only so much you can do about it, 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:11.120 you know. Yeah, I agree. I think Al Harris leaving 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.280 would be a step back. But I'm not going to 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.480 take away any credit from what Mike zimmer has done. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.560 Because you're talking about self scouting and going inward and 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.040 changing some of the problems that happened earlier in the year, 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:22.920 and how that's needed. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:24.280 I think they've already done. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.399 That, because yes, Micah returns and that adds a huge 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.159 element to this defense. Jordan Lewis said it on Sunday 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:31.840 after the game. He said, well, yeah, you know, we've 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.879 been pretty good since Micah got back. I don't know 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.040 if that was the whole game plan, but he is 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.680 a monster. You can't He's been an incredible football. 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.280 I'm not disagreeing with them, but when I look at 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.840 somebody's system. I believe that the system has to be 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.960 effective regardless if your number one star player is in 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.359 there or not. As we're talking about the quarterback position, 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.600 which is a major right, So that's what I'm talking about, 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.080 especially when we talk about defense. Right, defense, it is 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.359 a holistic thing. You're not relying on one person to 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.159 be just your impact guy. You need multiple guys doing 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.680 their thing. Now, he's had to battle through talking about Zimmer, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.879 that is, he's had to deal with a tremendous amount 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:11.240 of injuries and that's unfortunate. But again, this defense before Micah, 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:15.760 defense after Micah, two completely different defenses. Yeah, that is 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.840 the system sound enough to work regardless of if Mike 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:21.560 is there or not. He's asked Mike question. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.159 He's the only all pro on that defense that has 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.720 had that big of an impact when he wasn't around. 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.320 I mean, you just won a game without Trayvon Diggs. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.919 You've won multiple games without DeMarcus Lawrence, You've won multiple 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:35.840 games now without Demarvin Overshown. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.199 I mean, you have these guys that are all stepping up. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.400 Mike is the only one that you can circle and say, yeah, 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.320 when he wasn't there, they weren't very good, but they 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.800 also were playing the meat of their schedule and some 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.199 of the top teams in the NFL. 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.920 And it's not like the run defense didn't bounce back 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:56.600 in MICHAEH. Parsons's absence. You saw a definite improvement while 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.000 he was out. Granted there was no path rush to 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.680 be heard of, it's there, but you did see the 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.640 run defense improve, which is obviously players but also coaching 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:06.000 as well. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.000 Yeah, all right, let's sneak in a call before our 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.440 first break, AB in Redondo Beach, California. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.480 Yeah, what's going on? AB? You're on talking Cowboys? 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:15.600 I'm good. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.040 How you doing? Merry Christmas? 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:18.879 Christmas, my friend, how are you? 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:23.399 I'm doing well. I'm kind of conflicted though, because on 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.960 one hand, I'm happy that the Cowboys are winning, but 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.680 on the other hand, I hope it's not gonna save 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.680