1
00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:04,280
Speaker 1: The following.

2
00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,320
Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

3
00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,080
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

4
00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,000
Speaker 3: Cowboys.

5
00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:18,440
Speaker 4: This He's Talking Cowboys Spring Live from the Dallas Cowboys

6
00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,640
Speaker 4: World head Boys.

7
00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,680
Speaker 5: At the Star in Frisco.

8
00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:28,160
Speaker 6: Touchdown Seconds, dot ticks Today, Touchdown.

9
00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:34,120
Speaker 2: And Now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez

10
00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,199
Speaker 2: and Kyle Yeomans.

11
00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,519
Speaker 6: It's a Christmas Eve edition of Talking Cowboys presented by

12
00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,800
Speaker 6: Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco,

13
00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,760
Speaker 6: Texas and the s WBC Studios. Welcome in everybody, as

14
00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,280
Speaker 6: we wish you a merry Christmas. We get to talk

15
00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,680
Speaker 6: to some cowboys and we want the gift of your

16
00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,320
Speaker 6: phone call.

17
00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240
Speaker 5: Give us a call right now. Eight eight eight eight

18
00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,120
Speaker 5: five five two nine seven.

19
00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,920
Speaker 6: We're gonna take some phone calls like real fast, and

20
00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,200
Speaker 6: we're gonna try and get to twelve today.

21
00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,640
Speaker 5: We're gonna break our twenty twenty four season high of

22
00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,679
Speaker 5: twelve phone calls.

23
00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,920
Speaker 6: Phone calls, Well, we're gonna go to how We're we

24
00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,240
Speaker 6: gonna make it that how If you give us a

25
00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,760
Speaker 6: call eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. Gentlemen,

26
00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,800
Speaker 6: Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, Christmas Eve.

27
00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Merry Christmas Eve.

28
00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,039
Speaker 1: Queeze moying this.

29
00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:28,920
Speaker 4: Big Christmas for you.

30
00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,440
Speaker 5: It is a big Christmas for me.

31
00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

32
00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,240
Speaker 5: First with all three we had like our first guys,

33
00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,320
Speaker 5: both big Christmases. We uh, you've got your first.

34
00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,679
Speaker 1: One in the house, first one in the house.

35
00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got your tree up, you got the lights up.

36
00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,920
Speaker 1: We do, we do, but we're not doing it at

37
00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:42,800
Speaker 1: the house. You know what I'm saying.

38
00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,959
Speaker 5: You're not hosting this year.

39
00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,880
Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's too far.

40
00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,200
Speaker 6: We're hosting for the first time. Or we hosted last

41
00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,960
Speaker 6: year because Lorena was pregnant and we were like, look,

42
00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,080
Speaker 6: look it's easier for you guys to just come here,

43
00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,040
Speaker 6: like she's got three babies to carry around.

44
00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:55,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

45
00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, Now we actually have three babies to carry around.

46
00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,240
Speaker 6: So we're hosting again this year, so we'll congratulations the men.

47
00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,000
Speaker 6: Next year is gonna be crazy for two nuts in

48
00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,880
Speaker 6: every year, it's gonna ramp up because then they're gonna

49
00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,840
Speaker 6: not want like hot wheels or barbies. They're gonna end

50
00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,960
Speaker 6: up wanting like tablets and everything.

51
00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,560
Speaker 3: I was.

52
00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,000
Speaker 4: Chris beam about, I wasn't even talking about financially. I

53
00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,000
Speaker 4: was talking about just in terms of like being able

54
00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:29,640
Speaker 4: to because right now they're not mobile. Next year, little

55
00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,080
Speaker 4: Superman on our nephews, your tree is definitely coming down.

56
00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,720
Speaker 5: Next They're all three gonna just be climbing one.

57
00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,519
Speaker 6: You got three culprits and it looked like Planet of

58
00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,400
Speaker 6: the Apes where they're climbing the towers of New York City.

59
00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,839
Speaker 5: They're just gonna be all over the tree.

60
00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,280
Speaker 4: Line them up, bro, put them all over there. They

61
00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,280
Speaker 4: just sitting looking at you like I didn't do it.

62
00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,520
Speaker 5: Now I'm excited.

63
00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,040
Speaker 6: We had our first like family event last night where

64
00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,800
Speaker 6: Nana bottom all gifts and we did it at her

65
00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,960
Speaker 6: her house and we went over there and it was so.

66
00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,240
Speaker 5: Fun, Like it was just so fun getting to hang

67
00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,880
Speaker 5: out with everybody. I also brought you guys a little

68
00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,960
Speaker 5: something something some last time.

69
00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,440
Speaker 1: I tried to do this on a holiday.

70
00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,240
Speaker 6: I was a little late, but I brought some Santa

71
00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,359
Speaker 6: Christmas doughnuts.

72
00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,840
Speaker 4: Say this, the Grinch went the Grinch.

73
00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,320
Speaker 1: You go ahead and go for it.

74
00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,960
Speaker 5: You pick it, you pick it out a little donut action.

75
00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,679
Speaker 1: You know, we're talking to cowboys. Grinch. I think it's

76
00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,840
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Basketball.

77
00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,760
Speaker 4: My family calls me Coy, Isaiah.

78
00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,600
Speaker 5: Coy wants to steal Christmas. Yeah, dude, Yeah, I'm sure

79
00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,920
Speaker 5: it's probably pretty heavy.

80
00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,919
Speaker 8: Oh no, I see a Homer sits in one down there,

81
00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:30,720
Speaker 8: there's a Homer.

82
00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,040
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, the pink one. Yeah, the pink sprinkle, pink sprinkles.

83
00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,160
Speaker 6: All right, But merry Christmas, everybody. Hope you're enjoying your

84
00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,160
Speaker 6: holiday season. Get to listen to a little bit of

85
00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,840
Speaker 6: talking cowboys as well. Give us a call eight eight

86
00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,240
Speaker 6: eight eight five five two two nine seven. We're gonna

87
00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:50,279
Speaker 6: start taking some calls right now, starting with John in Alaska.

88
00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,320
Speaker 5: John, whoa, we had you on last week. What's going on?

89
00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:53,560
Speaker 9: Man?

90
00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,800
Speaker 1: Thirty days of night? Let's go?

91
00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, good morning, good morning, Thanks for colling.

92
00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,240
Speaker 10: Yeah. First of all, let me wish all of you

93
00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,720
Speaker 10: there in the studio and all of your listeners are

94
00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,480
Speaker 10: very very merry Christmas. And during this holiday season, everybody

95
00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,000
Speaker 10: should try to think about what makes them joyful and

96
00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,800
Speaker 10: what makes them happy and focus on that.

97
00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:14,880
Speaker 5: Love it.

98
00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,280
Speaker 4: I agree you, John, love it abolutely Christmas looking like

99
00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,000
Speaker 4: a true Alaskan.

100
00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,200
Speaker 6: I hope you're not traveling anywhere today. That's that's my

101
00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,520
Speaker 6: number one concern right now is all the people that

102
00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,480
Speaker 6: are traveling.

103
00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,160
Speaker 4: Crystal weather in Alaska.

104
00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,120
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah, what's what's the temperature?

105
00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,599
Speaker 10: Surprisingly warm. It's at thirty four degrees.

106
00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,400
Speaker 5: Right now, super warm.

107
00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah for Alaska.

108
00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,480
Speaker 10: That's pretty warm for Alaska, that's very warm.

109
00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:38,640
Speaker 5: Night.

110
00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:45,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, I want to give thanks for the call. John,

111
00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,839
Speaker 6: appreciate you as always. Uh, before we move on to

112
00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,000
Speaker 6: our next collar news and notes. There's no Patrick today,

113
00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,960
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna be completely honest.

114
00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,560
Speaker 5: It really wasn't a whole lot from yesterday.

115
00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing anything around here.

116
00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,320
Speaker 5: So Jerry talked this morning on the fan, I believe

117
00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,360
Speaker 5: did he did? He talk?

118
00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,320
Speaker 8: He did? He talked about Ceedee Lamb. As far as

119
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,320
Speaker 8: the injury goes kind only with you up to CD.

120
00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,799
Speaker 8: Obviously he's playing through a lot of things. He's injured

121
00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,440
Speaker 8: that that shoulder is not getting any better. No, obviously

122
00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,880
Speaker 8: with the more playtime, obviously he keeps getting hit the

123
00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:18,440
Speaker 8: way that he is.

124
00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:25,839
Speaker 6: Sorry, I spot you're fighting through it, just like, yeah, that's.

125
00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,680
Speaker 4: Interesting, need another one another?

126
00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,960
Speaker 5: I have one, you have one, it's already gone. You

127
00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,000
Speaker 5: take another one if you want.

128
00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,120
Speaker 6: Well, But that is a good point because if they

129
00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,640
Speaker 6: are going to leave it up to Cede Lamb, CD

130
00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,200
Speaker 6: is gonna play. I mean, that's just clearly he's proven

131
00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,920
Speaker 6: that already.

132
00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,040
Speaker 8: We were in the box whenever he landed on that shoulder,

133
00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,400
Speaker 8: and the announcers in the box basically said, you know,

134
00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,000
Speaker 8: Ceedee Lamb is questionable to return.

135
00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,040
Speaker 1: Not one play.

136
00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,560
Speaker 8: Later, after literally the next play a TV time out,

137
00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,599
Speaker 8: he's back in the in Uh, that's right. In the

138
00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,279
Speaker 8: play gets it down to the one yard line, almost touchdown,

139
00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,560
Speaker 8: shakes off a couple of people, chase off a couple

140
00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,039
Speaker 8: of people with an injured shoulder, puts us back in

141
00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,640
Speaker 8: the game. Granted we didn't see him much in the

142
00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,760
Speaker 8: second half, but amazing that he powered through that he's

143
00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,279
Speaker 8: still playing, and he's obviously going to play in Philly.

144
00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way to keep him out of Philly.

145
00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,640
Speaker 6: The only way that he's not on the field is

146
00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,200
Speaker 6: if the training staff deems it best for him not

147
00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,839
Speaker 6: to be on the field, because I know he said,

148
00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,960
Speaker 6: he said, we'll leave it up to Seedee Lamb, We'll

149
00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,599
Speaker 6: leave it up to his pain, discrepancy and tolerance.

150
00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,279
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think if he's able, he will be

151
00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:34,760
Speaker 5: on the field.

152
00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,400
Speaker 8: You're not taking him off the field, no way, I agree,

153
00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,640
Speaker 8: no way, No how he also alluded to. Jerry Jones

154
00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,800
Speaker 8: alluded well, he was asked the question, as far as

155
00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,839
Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy goes, do we think he's going to retain

156
00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,880
Speaker 8: him for next season? Jerry Jones was very close to

157
00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,080
Speaker 8: the vest on that one. He didn't necessarily answer the question.

158
00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,039
Speaker 8: He was talking about, Yeah, confidence in him now, you

159
00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,039
Speaker 8: know as we stand here and basically said, you know,

160
00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,320
Speaker 8: full stop, like talking about here and now, so not

161
00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,760
Speaker 8: necessarily looking towards the future. Sure, I'm sure he is,

162
00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,000
Speaker 8: but he's not telling anybody about it yet. And we've

163
00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,720
Speaker 8: talked about it many times here before. How do you

164
00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,440
Speaker 8: if we end up with a running record, or let's

165
00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,200
Speaker 8: say we end up eight to nine, you know, battling

166
00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,560
Speaker 8: through this season, how do you not give.

167
00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,200
Speaker 1: To Micha McCarthy.

168
00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,920
Speaker 8: That's a question that we will be talking about for

169
00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,000
Speaker 8: a long time to come, obviously when the season ends.

170
00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,960
Speaker 8: So that's where we're at.

171
00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,000
Speaker 4: How soon after the season ends, Dallas Cowboy season it is,

172
00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,640
Speaker 4: will can we expect a decision?

173
00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,080
Speaker 6: Usually it's within like three or four days, like it'd

174
00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,280
Speaker 6: be really quick. So that I mean, the final game

175
00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,000
Speaker 6: of the year is either the fourth or the fifth

176
00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,520
Speaker 6: of January of course, the NFL has that last week

177
00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,880
Speaker 6: as TBD, and then they slot them all in the

178
00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,080
Speaker 6: place at the end of the time. I would expect

179
00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,080
Speaker 6: something either that Monday or Tuesday the sixth, or the seventh.

180
00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,840
Speaker 1: I would assume Saturday, February eighth.

181
00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,800
Speaker 5: Do you think it's further than that after the super

182
00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,280
Speaker 5: Bowl or close to the.

183
00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,800
Speaker 8: Super Bowl, the day before the Super Bowl, the.

184
00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,360
Speaker 5: Day before the Super Bowl.

185
00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,960
Speaker 4: To hire a coach or to announcement, to make announce

186
00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:07,679
Speaker 4: what he's doing.

187
00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,400
Speaker 6: Oh, I think it's gonna be way quicker than that.

188
00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,440
Speaker 6: Even I'm just going based off of Jason Garrett. Yeah,

189
00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,200
Speaker 6: same sort of deal. Contract ran out, they did not

190
00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,040
Speaker 6: renew him. You knew within the next two days after

191
00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:19,960
Speaker 6: the season was over.

192
00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,200
Speaker 8: So they don't wait on the coach very long.

193
00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,120
Speaker 6: Then then you go on the then you go on

194
00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,560
Speaker 6: the search and you start finding who your next coach

195
00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,200
Speaker 6: is or you extend them, and then all of a

196
00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,200
Speaker 6: sudden you've got that conversation moving forward too. So I

197
00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,000
Speaker 6: don't think it would take very long. I think it'd

198
00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,000
Speaker 6: be literally the day or two after the season comes.

199
00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:37,280
Speaker 4: To a close.

200
00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,640
Speaker 8: Husban, could you sign Micah That might be a little

201
00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,120
Speaker 8: further that would be for the further out league. I

202
00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:49,719
Speaker 8: mean new league year is March fifteenth, Okay, so sometime

203
00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,800
Speaker 8: I got to look at the dates for twenty five.

204
00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,440
Speaker 8: But the free agency and that sort of deal, I mean,

205
00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,560
Speaker 8: I think you can sign him at any point, but

206
00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,520
Speaker 8: I bet you it wouldn't happen until the league years changed.

207
00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,240
Speaker 4: Interesting a little about the coaching decision on all the teams,

208
00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,960
Speaker 4: because they have those all Star games, right, all those

209
00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,440
Speaker 4: all the college All Star games in the Senior Bowl, Yeah,

210
00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,200
Speaker 4: all the Senior Bowls and Shrine Bowl. You will want

211
00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,080
Speaker 4: your coach yep to be present there, correct, and you're

212
00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,400
Speaker 4: coaching staff, yes, yeah, from that.

213
00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,400
Speaker 5: Perspective a lot.

214
00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,360
Speaker 6: And that's that's why I think it will happen quick

215
00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,800
Speaker 6: because the Senior Bowl and the Shrine Bowl are the

216
00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,400
Speaker 6: final week of January. Final week, So that would give

217
00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,520
Speaker 6: you a month of either find a new head coach

218
00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,960
Speaker 6: and hire them or at least know who your new.

219
00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:37,880
Speaker 5: Head coach is going to be.

220
00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,880
Speaker 6: Uh, when you get to that point or Mike McCarthy's here,

221
00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,840
Speaker 6: nothing changes, So I think let's keep on rolling. Let's

222
00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,760
Speaker 6: go to Nebby and Silver Spring, Maryland. Nebby, what's going

223
00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,559
Speaker 6: on you're on talking Cowboys man.

224
00:09:53,920 --> 00:10:03,880
Speaker 3: Hi, guys, thank you so much for uh taking my call. Listen.

225
00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,080
Speaker 3: Uh uh. First of all, I want to say uh

226
00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:17,240
Speaker 3: that I I think so highly of Cooper uh BB

227
00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:26,440
Speaker 3: that I bought his jersey uh uh uh a few

228
00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:38,000
Speaker 3: weeks ago. Uh uh. But anyway, um I, I just

229
00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:46,000
Speaker 3: want to say that I I I I I. Even

230
00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:52,520
Speaker 3: though uhh we obviously won't be going to the playoffs

231
00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,080
Speaker 3: and therefore, of course uh will not win the Super

232
00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:07,320
Speaker 3: Bowl this year. Uh uh I, even even when that

233
00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:17,400
Speaker 3: is no longer a possibility, there's always something to uh

234
00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:25,600
Speaker 3: uh uh uh I'll play for because winning games uh

235
00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:42,080
Speaker 3: down the stretch, I can build momentum for next year.

236
00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,319
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping that we win these last two games,

237
00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:54,640
Speaker 3: I have a winning season uh I and go off

238
00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,080
Speaker 3: seasons strongly. And also before I go, I just want

239
00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:05,840
Speaker 3: to say that, with all due respect to Mike Zimmer

240
00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:16,320
Speaker 3: uh uh, I'm hoping that uhl Al Harris will be

241
00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:35,280
Speaker 3: our defensive coordinator next uh a year next season. I

242
00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,480
Speaker 3: take care, thanks for being patient with me, and have

243
00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,679
Speaker 3: a great week. Bye.

244
00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,640
Speaker 6: There we goes. Nevy Nev knows ball, of course always does.

245
00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,840
Speaker 6: Now I agree with him. On one take so far,

246
00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,679
Speaker 6: and I disagree with him on the other time.

247
00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:58,200
Speaker 5: I never do. Really, he knows and it's an opinion.

248
00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:58,600
Speaker 5: I get it.

249
00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,000
Speaker 6: I love Al Harris, I really do. But Mike Zimmer's

250
00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,520
Speaker 6: done enough to be your defensive.

251
00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:02,920
Speaker 1: Coordinator next year.

252
00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,360
Speaker 8: It's crazy how much the scripts flipped in regards to

253
00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,960
Speaker 8: Mike Zimmer. Oh yeah, how he's done this year with

254
00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,600
Speaker 8: the injuries at the defense specifically, it's crazy to see

255
00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,560
Speaker 8: him grow and now the players are obviously buying into it.

256
00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,320
Speaker 5: They're all bought in.

257
00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,600
Speaker 6: It's crazy talking to some of the guys after the game,

258
00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,720
Speaker 6: like you could see it like they it may not

259
00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,080
Speaker 6: have been there initially, and there might have been a

260
00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,040
Speaker 6: learning curve maybe a lot longer, and you could certainly

261
00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,880
Speaker 6: give him criticism for how long it took for these.

262
00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,640
Speaker 5: Guys to pick that up. That's fair.

263
00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,240
Speaker 6: But the way that they're playing now gives me kind

264
00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,640
Speaker 6: of like the first point where I agree with Nabby.

265
00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,000
Speaker 5: I want to win these last two games.

266
00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,040
Speaker 6: I want to build momentum going into twenty twenty five,

267
00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,280
Speaker 6: because if you win these last two games and you're

268
00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,360
Speaker 6: at nine to eight, you could be considered one of

269
00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,640
Speaker 6: the best, if not the best defense in football in

270
00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,360
Speaker 6: the back half of the season. There's a lot you

271
00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,319
Speaker 6: can go build off of from there, including.

272
00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,120
Speaker 5: With your defensive coordinator. M you don't want to win

273
00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:02,920
Speaker 5: the last two games.

274
00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,960
Speaker 4: No, you definitely want to win the last two games.

275
00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,960
Speaker 4: It's just not convinced. Holy Holy you know that that

276
00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,280
Speaker 4: I'm ready to rock with Zimmer yet, And I don't

277
00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,200
Speaker 4: know what it would really take to build.

278
00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,440
Speaker 5: What is holding you back?

279
00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,200
Speaker 4: What I saw early? Same system? You know, I don't

280
00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,920
Speaker 4: know if it was guys not executing or I mean,

281
00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,360
Speaker 4: I don't know what. You have to go back and

282
00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,760
Speaker 4: look at it. I would have to go back.

283
00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,960
Speaker 5: And talking to the guys. That's what they say.

284
00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,560
Speaker 6: They say it's it was a lack of execution, not

285
00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,800
Speaker 6: necessarily a lack of scheme or preparation.

286
00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,360
Speaker 8: Like you said about chun Zy Golsten when you guys

287
00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,960
Speaker 8: interviewed him for pregame live on dolls cobys dot com. Uh,

288
00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,440
Speaker 8: he was talking about early in the season where when

289
00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,160
Speaker 8: they would make a mistake, It's like, Okay, what would

290
00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,360
Speaker 8: dan Quinn have us do basically in this situation versus

291
00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,560
Speaker 8: buying into the new scheme that they're they What.

292
00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,080
Speaker 1: Would Zimmer do.

293
00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:47,760
Speaker 8: What would Zimmer do?

294
00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, it's a.

295
00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,320
Speaker 5: Little bit different.

296
00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:56,200
Speaker 4: WWZD what do uh? I yeah, it's I mean, it's

297
00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,120
Speaker 4: obviously he has done a good enough job to at

298
00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,480
Speaker 4: least raise the question. Right before, it was not a question.

299
00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely before it was like, oh, ces next. Now you

300
00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,120
Speaker 4: at least have to go back and look at his

301
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,520
Speaker 4: body of work, and I think he's They have done

302
00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,680
Speaker 4: amazing these last four games whatever, it's been five games

303
00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,640
Speaker 4: since Mike has come back. But again, you have to

304
00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,800
Speaker 4: look at it and say, okay, is that because MIC's

305
00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,360
Speaker 4: back and everybody else is able to do what they do?

306
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,480
Speaker 4: What if Micah is you know, low and behold, you know,

307
00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,600
Speaker 4: God forbid and Mike is hurt? Do you get the

308
00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,320
Speaker 4: same productivity out of this entire defense?

309
00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:29,680
Speaker 5: Probably?

310
00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,760
Speaker 4: Not right, so not good, but you know what I'm saying.

311
00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,000
Speaker 6: But you can say the same thing about any other

312
00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,320
Speaker 6: defense that has a high end talent. If the Cleveland

313
00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,400
Speaker 6: Browns defense without Miles Garrett is completely different, the San

314
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,880
Speaker 6: Francisco defense without Nick Bosa is completely different, the Chargers

315
00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,000
Speaker 6: defense without Khalil or.

316
00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,360
Speaker 4: Difference, Like there's like it's not even close. But so

317
00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, how much weight are you putting on

318
00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,280
Speaker 4: that one individual a.

319
00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,080
Speaker 5: Lot because he's one of the best, if not the

320
00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,880
Speaker 5: best kids. I mean, you're still second in defensive understanding.

321
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,840
Speaker 4: With the understanding that players get injured and things happen,

322
00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,480
Speaker 4: contracts happen, players leave, you have to still have a

323
00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,920
Speaker 4: system in place that is effective enough to give you

324
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,040
Speaker 4: give you an opportunity to win ball games. And that

325
00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,680
Speaker 4: system was not it was.

326
00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,240
Speaker 1: In place, it was not early.

327
00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,800
Speaker 4: Is That's what I'm saying. Because of that, you have

328
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,160
Speaker 4: to you can't just say, yeah, things are running hot

329
00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,600
Speaker 4: right now. You gotta roll with it, like you have

330
00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,000
Speaker 4: to now go back and look at us and what

331
00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,560
Speaker 4: was different? Was it execution? Was it just that we

332
00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,440
Speaker 4: were just getting tostedos? Right? You have to go and

333
00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,000
Speaker 4: really look at it and say, okay, what was the

334
00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,960
Speaker 4: major difference When you can't, I don't believe that you

335
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,440
Speaker 4: can feel secure enough with somebody making that decision by saying, oh, yeah,

336
00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,800
Speaker 4: once he's in place, we're good, because that's not the system.

337
00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:40,040
Speaker 6: That is.

338
00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,440
Speaker 4: That is one person impacting way too much of the.

339
00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,640
Speaker 8: Game and they kind of pick it back of what

340
00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,120
Speaker 8: you're saying. If if that happens, you bring Mike zimmern

341
00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,360
Speaker 8: back and you lose Al Harris, I think you're gonna

342
00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,880
Speaker 8: get that either way. I think you are going to

343
00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,400
Speaker 8: get a step back in play because the secondary has been,

344
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,360
Speaker 8: at least for me, consistent all the way through the year.

345
00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:56,920
Speaker 1: Sure, and.

346
00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,080
Speaker 6: I can't foresee them, so I would love to have

347
00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,440
Speaker 6: Superman and Batman on my team. If it's only Batman,

348
00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,960
Speaker 6: and then there's only so much you can do about it,

349
00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,120
Speaker 6: you know. Yeah, I agree. I think Al Harris leaving

350
00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,280
Speaker 6: would be a step back. But I'm not going to

351
00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,480
Speaker 6: take away any credit from what Mike zimmer has done.

352
00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,560
Speaker 6: Because you're talking about self scouting and going inward and

353
00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,040
Speaker 6: changing some of the problems that happened earlier in the year,

354
00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:22,920
Speaker 6: and how that's needed.

355
00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,280
Speaker 5: I think they've already done.

356
00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,399
Speaker 6: That, because yes, Micah returns and that adds a huge

357
00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,159
Speaker 6: element to this defense. Jordan Lewis said it on Sunday

358
00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,840
Speaker 6: after the game. He said, well, yeah, you know, we've

359
00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,879
Speaker 6: been pretty good since Micah got back. I don't know

360
00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,040
Speaker 6: if that was the whole game plan, but he is

361
00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,680
Speaker 6: a monster. You can't He's been an incredible football.

362
00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,280
Speaker 4: I'm not disagreeing with them, but when I look at

363
00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,840
Speaker 4: somebody's system. I believe that the system has to be

364
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,960
Speaker 4: effective regardless if your number one star player is in

365
00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,359
Speaker 4: there or not. As we're talking about the quarterback position,

366
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,600
Speaker 4: which is a major right, So that's what I'm talking about,

367
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,080
Speaker 4: especially when we talk about defense. Right, defense, it is

368
00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,359
Speaker 4: a holistic thing. You're not relying on one person to

369
00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,159
Speaker 4: be just your impact guy. You need multiple guys doing

370
00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,680
Speaker 4: their thing. Now, he's had to battle through talking about Zimmer,

371
00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,879
Speaker 4: that is, he's had to deal with a tremendous amount

372
00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,240
Speaker 4: of injuries and that's unfortunate. But again, this defense before Micah,

373
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,760
Speaker 4: defense after Micah, two completely different defenses. Yeah, that is

374
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 4: the system sound enough to work regardless of if Mike

375
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,560
Speaker 4: is there or not. He's asked Mike question.

376
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,159
Speaker 6: He's the only all pro on that defense that has

377
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,720
Speaker 6: had that big of an impact when he wasn't around.

378
00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,320
Speaker 5: I mean, you just won a game without Trayvon Diggs.

379
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,919
Speaker 6: You've won multiple games without DeMarcus Lawrence, You've won multiple

380
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,840
Speaker 6: games now without Demarvin Overshown.

381
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,199
Speaker 5: I mean, you have these guys that are all stepping up.

382
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,400
Speaker 6: Mike is the only one that you can circle and say, yeah,

383
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 6: when he wasn't there, they weren't very good, but they

384
00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,800
Speaker 6: also were playing the meat of their schedule and some

385
00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,199
Speaker 6: of the top teams in the NFL.

386
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,920
Speaker 8: And it's not like the run defense didn't bounce back

387
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,600
Speaker 8: in MICHAEH. Parsons's absence. You saw a definite improvement while

388
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 8: he was out. Granted there was no path rush to

389
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,680
Speaker 8: be heard of, it's there, but you did see the

390
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 8: run defense improve, which is obviously players but also coaching

391
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 8: as well.

392
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, let's sneak in a call before our

393
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 6: first break, AB in Redondo Beach, California.

394
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's going on? AB? You're on talking Cowboys?

395
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 11: I'm good.

396
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 12: How you doing? Merry Christmas?

397
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,879
Speaker 5: Christmas, my friend, how are you?

398
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,399
Speaker 12: I'm doing well. I'm kind of conflicted though, because on

399
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 12: one hand, I'm happy that the Cowboys are winning, but

400
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,680
Speaker 12: on the other hand, I hope it's not gonna save

401
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 12: McCarthy as far as coach. Oh, I'm just I'm not

402
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 12: sold on him winning. I mean, his offense and stuff.

403
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 12: Long term, I'm not sold on it. And you know,

404
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 12: I get that everybody's playing hard, but you have to ask,

405
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 12: you know, are they playing hard because they're trying to

406
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 12: get another paycheck or are they really playing hard just

407
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 12: for him? I mean, I guess it's a combination of both.

408
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 12: And then, you know, the thing that I don't think

409
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,160
Speaker 12: anybody thinks about is how many super Bowl co which

410
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 12: is of one with the second team.

411
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 5: I believe only one or two.

412
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 12: I think it's very few, exactly. Yeah, And we tried

413
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 12: it with ourselves, we try it with him, and it

414
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 12: has worked out. You know, I think they need to

415
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 12: go something fresh, something new, something more innovative than what

416
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 12: he's bringing out right now.

417
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 5: I appreciate the call. You are not wrong in your opinion.

418
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 5: You can't be wrong in your opinion.

419
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 6: Uh. And you're also not alone there. Either there's a

420
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 6: lot of Cowboys fans that are split because of this,

421
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 6: or I think we're starting to see more of a

422
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 6: fifty to fifty split. I don't know if it's there yet, but.

423
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 5: Five weeks ago it was not very fifty to fifty.

424
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 8: No, So what was going to happen with the coach

425
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 8: moving forward? Very clarified weeks ago?

426
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what were you gonna have there?

427
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 7: Not so much.

428
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 4: I just I think people have been spoiled. I truly

429
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 4: think people have been spoiled by twelve in seasons. That's

430
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 4: just the truth.

431
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: You got three of them in a row. That's just

432
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 1: a lot of winning.

433
00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 4: People are spoiled by twelve wins and people feel they

434
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 4: feel as if you're supposed to just show up and

435
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 4: that happens. Now, you just show up and we win

436
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 4: twelve games. That's how That's not how the work Listen

437
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 4: League works. And this year obviously is an anomaly because

438
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 4: of injuries, and you still might be nine to eight,

439
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 4: you know, by the end of the year. And if

440
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 4: you go nine and eight with this year, it's absolutely insane.

441
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: But the fact that McCarthy, what he's done over his

442
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 4: stint here is it's not given enough respect at all,

443
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 4: No at all, because everybody wants change, but everybody's not

444
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 4: willing to run the risk that change brings.

445
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 1: And change takes a long time.

446
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 4: Change takes a long time. Change takes personnel changes, change

447
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 4: takes scheme changes, change takes the the empathy and the

448
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: willingness to allow for a losing seasons while they figure

449
00:21:54,840 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 4: things seas seasons. Yes, okay, so everybody wants change until

450
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 4: change happens and you have to go through the mess

451
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: to come out. Yeah, the grand pace, so be careful,

452
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 4: be careful what you wish for people. I understand your

453
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 4: your sentiments, I respect your sentiments, but you don't just

454
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 4: wake up and win twelve games. Look around the league,

455
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 4: lick around the league, and you will understand that if

456
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: you're going to go another direction with the coach, understand this.

457
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 4: You're either going to get a coach who has failed

458
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: somewhere else, or you're going to get a brand new

459
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 4: coach who's never done it before.

460
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 6: Yes, and I would like to add on the second

461
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 6: side of that, the second side if you and I

462
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 6: wish I would have asked ab who his replacement would be?

463
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 6: Who would you hire in that case, because of course

464
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 6: we can't say names up here as well. But when

465
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 6: when you're looking at it and you're saying, oh, the

466
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 6: new guy that's out there, all these names that have

467
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 6: been thrown out there in terms of replacements, when's the

468
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 6: last time the Cowboy or not the Cowboys, But a

469
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 6: team has won a Super Bowl with a head coach that's.

470
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 5: New, probably Sean McVay.

471
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: And that's it.

472
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 5: I mean, look at this different. You've got Andy Reid.

473
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 8: We're talking about Kyle Shannonday, exact same things.

474
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 6: It still hasn't won one. Here are the super Bowl

475
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 6: winning head coaches. I'm just going to start reading, and

476
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 6: you're going to see a trend here. Andy Reid, of course,

477
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 6: he's won a couple of them. Sean McVay, we just

478
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 6: mentioned him, Bruce Arians, Bill Belichick, Doug Peterson, Gary Kubiak,

479
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 6: Pete Carroll, John Harball, Tom Coughlin.

480
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 5: Harball would be considered a new coach back in that time.

481
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 6: That was back in twenty thirteen, Tom Coughlin, Mike McCarthy

482
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 6: was a new coach back in twenty ten, twenty eleven.

483
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 6: He was still in his fifth year with that organization

484
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 6: at that time. Sean Palin or Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin,

485
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 6: Tom Coughlin, Tony Dungee, Bill Cower.

486
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 5: You get the point. You get the point. It doesn't

487
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 5: just pop it over here.

488
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 4: Coaches.

489
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, And these are all guys that have either won

490
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 6: Super Bowls or had multiple Super Bowls, or had Hall

491
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 6: of Fame caliber quarterbacks. And I don't know, I just

492
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 6: I don't think you can look at what Mike McCarthy

493
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 6: has done here and just.

494
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: Show it away, of course, for nothing.

495
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 8: And that's kind of what people want to do, and

496
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 8: that was a big reason why they heard him in

497
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 8: the first place. You wanted someone that's been there before,

498
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 8: someone that that can come in and act like they've

499
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 8: been there before.

500
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 4: Obviously, what's his overall record here?

501
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: That's a great question, pretty pretty wild.

502
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 4: I just want to pink that picture.

503
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 6: I mean, twelve and five, twelve and five, twelve and five.

504
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 6: He was what seven and nine in the first year,

505
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 6: it was crazy, and then yeah, that was this COVID year.

506
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: And then he's one game under five hundred here, he's

507
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: out of one ten overall. Yeah, in Dallas, in Dallas, right.

508
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, plus fifteen.

509
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 6: Let's take a break and we'll get it on the

510
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 6: other side of the break. We're talking cowboys right after this.

511
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 6: If you're looking for fresh American roasted coffee that gives back,

512
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 6: you need to head to your local grocery store and

513
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 6: pick up a bag of Black Rifle Coffee. That's right,

514
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 6: America's coffee is now available in the coffee aisle of

515
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 6: a grocery store near you. Black Rifle Coffee Company is

516
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 6: veteran founded with a mission to give back to those

517
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 6: brave men and women who have served our nation. Every

518
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 6: bag box or can you purchase help support that mission,

519
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 6: Head to your local grocery store and roast.

520
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 13: Yourself some black Rifle coffee. Today, Todd thought it would

521
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 13: be secure to jog in the Cheatah Savannah. Todd believed

522
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 13: the big Cat repellent he bought online was reliable, and

523
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 13: now Todd is trying to be faster than this cheetah

524
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 13: that can run eighty miles per But the good news

525
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 13: is Todd has AT and T five G. It is fast, reliable,

526
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 13: and secure, and he learned the best thing to do

527
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 13: is stop running and toss her the backpack with the

528
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 13: beef stew At and T five G.

529
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 11: Fast, reliable, secure.

530
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 14: Five G requires compatable plan and device five G may

531
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 14: not be available in your area. See add dot com

532
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 14: slash five G for you fifty deals.

533
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 6: It's the official min's skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys,

534
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 6: Jack Black, and right now Cowboys fans could get fifteen

535
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 6: percent off their seventy five dollars order. Plus because every

536
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 6: deal needs a playmaker, your order will include a free

537
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 6: five piece skincare at and free shipping. The Jack Black

538
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 6: Playmaker is four of Jack's favorites and a full sized

539
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 6: intense therapy LIPBAM make a play for the playmaker at

540
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 6: Getjack black dot com slash Cowboys with the code Cowboys vip.

541
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 6: That's get Jack Black dot com slash Cowboys with the

542
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 6: code Cowboys vip.

543
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 15: If you shout how about them cowboys? You have that

544
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 15: undeniable passion that's the heart of Cowboys Nation. And if

545
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 15: you like to drink Doctor Pepper, you love the unique

546
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 15: blend of its twenty three flavors. Together, you're one of

547
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 15: a kind fandom paired with the one of a kind

548
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 15: taste of a delicious ice cold Doctor Pepper is the

549
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 15: game day lineup that can't be beat better yet, Gather

550
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 15: your Cowboys and Doctor Pepper fan friends to watch the

551
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 15: next game and crack open a delicious ice cold Doctor

552
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 15: Pepper for everyone.

553
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: The wins will be even tastier. It's a pepper thing.

554
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 5: To Talking Cowboys.

555
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 6: Welcome back to Talking Cowboys, Presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company.

556
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 6: This portion of the show is brought to you by

557
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 6: Quaker Oats, the official oatmeals pont of the Dallas Cowboys.

558
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 5: Quaker Oats trusted since eighteen seventy seven.

559
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 8: The record was the record was oh his record is

560
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 8: forty nine to thirty three the winningest Cowboys head coach

561
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 8: since won Barry Switzer in ninety seven.

562
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 7: No.

563
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, in terms of win percentage, you're talking about.

564
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 8: Percentage in terms of win percent that's m McCarthy, baby

565
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 8: coach McCarthy.

566
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 5: That is no.

567
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: But his postseason record one three.

568
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: That's where I find criticism to be.

569
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 6: Okay, you brought him in to win championships, to get

570
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 6: you to an NFC title game, to elevate dak in

571
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 6: what he could do.

572
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 5: He's done. That's that's done. Check that box. But you

573
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 5: haven't gone to an NFC championship game. That's where the

574
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: criticism comes.

575
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 6: Well, but I just find it hard to believe when

576
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 6: you look outside and say, oh, this name, this name,

577
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 6: this name, are gonna do what he's doing right now

578
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 6: with this football team and are going to galvanize this

579
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 6: team enough to where they're saying, oh, we're out of

580
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 6: playoff contention, and we're still winning four out of five

581
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 6: games and we're making things happen. You're one play away

582
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 6: from making the playoffs.

583
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 5: With Cooper Rush as your starting quarterback.

584
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe. It's hard to believe.

585
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 8: And we say all this and we give him all

586
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 8: the we give him the praise here that he is

587
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 8: deserved of.

588
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, but but you look at that Green Bay game.

589
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: It was bad.

590
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 6: I mean, and I think a lot of that blame

591
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 6: falls on the guy that's now the head coach in Washington,

592
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 6: by the way, I do. Yeah, dan Quinn completely kerfuffled

593
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 6: that entire game plan because he was trying to hide

594
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 6: Steph on Gilmour playing and simple Stephan Gilmour was hurt

595
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 6: options and they said, you know what, we were a

596
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 6: one armed Stephan Gilmour to play in zone coverage instead

597
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 6: of man like they had played eighty percent of the

598
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 6: time last year. They decided to go zone against a

599
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 6: team that does nothing but run the ball effectively and

600
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 6: then throw the ball over the middle of the field

601
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 6: with Jordan Love. No, that was a stupid game plan,

602
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 6: and that's what happened in Green Bay. I don't I

603
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 6: don't put all that on my mara. I put a

604
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 6: lot of that on the role in the beginning.

605
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 5: It wasn't good either.

606
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 6: I'm not putting it all on McCart I'm putting a

607
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 6: lot of it on dan Quinn too. It's a solid

608
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 6: fifty to fifty team effort. Said, yeah, team effort. We're

609
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 6: gonna go get our butts kicked in the wild.

610
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: That's what happened. Is It's plain and simple.

611
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 8: It's just to me, that game was such a I

612
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 8: think you've said it before, something about that game broke

613
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 8: this team and we're still reeling from the effects of that.

614
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: I still am to this day. I mean, I when

615
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: I think of it, I chudder, you know what I mean.

616
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: It's just not it doesn't feel good, guys.

617
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 8: So I think some of the stink of that game

618
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 8: is upsetting a lot of Cowboys fans, and obviously the

619
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 8: way that this year's gone. I totally understand where they're

620
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 8: coming from as far as like, what.

621
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 5: Are we doing here?

622
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 7: You know?

623
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 8: But if you've been following the team, like I know

624
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 8: you have because you are all Cowboy fans and you're

625
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 8: listening to talking Cowboys, you have to respect what he

626
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 8: has done with the cards he's been dealt this season.

627
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: Listen, Winning seasons just don't I just want people to

628
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: take a step back. You don't just stumble upon winning seasons,

629
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: especially twelve. Just don't stumble upon twelve win seasons. And

630
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 4: you don't get a chance at the playoffs unless you

631
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: have those winning seasons. I just want to remind everybody

632
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: of that this league is hard. This league is hard,

633
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 4: and to get a winning season is hard, especially in

634
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: this division, and to and to be in position to

635
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: go to the playoffs. Once you get to the playoffs,

636
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: it's hard. Playoffs are hard. Name. Just just pick another coach,

637
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: Pick another coach out there for this is going to

638
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: call in. Tell us a coach that does really well

639
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: in the playoffs that is going to be available for

640
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys that's been a head coach.

641
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 5: Good question. I'm going to play a little exercise here.

642
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 6: Name the three teams right now that have the best

643
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 6: chance to win the Super Bowl out of the NFC.

644
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: Go right, the NFC, right man, I'm going with the

645
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 4: you gotta go Eagles. You don't, Yeah, you have to

646
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: really good, solid Eagles. The way Green Bays play, I

647
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: can't hate to say that. That's I don't want to

648
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: say NFC, NFC, NFC the team and blew up.

649
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 8: Yeah Lions than Lions.

650
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah they got to overcome a lot, but yeah, yeah

651
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 4: they're in there.

652
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 6: So let me just phrase it this way. The first

653
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 6: team you named there was the Eagles. How many wins

654
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 6: do they have right now, twelve twelve. They have twelve wins,

655
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 6: so they're gonna they're gonna win the NFC East, right,

656
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 6: hm uh, and they're probably gonna end up as the

657
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 6: two seed in the NFC. That's pretty that's a crazy,

658
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: well run organization that continues to do things all the

659
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 6: way through. You're going to see him this week. Pretty

660
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 6: damn good football team, right. Yes, what did the Dallas

661
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 6: Cowboys do last year? Yes, I know they laid an egg,

662
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 6: but they had all of those things working in favor

663
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 6: going into the playoffs.

664
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: You don't just stumble upon that. And that's kind of

665
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 5: my point there is you don't just.

666
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: I'm telling people are spoilt. You can't people like that.

667
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: But you're spoiled. You're spoiled. You're spoiled. That's okay, now word,

668
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: it just means you just ow it. You're spoiled. You

669
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: used to you're used to coach McCarthy winning you twelve

670
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: games a year, and you're talking about like, oh, that's

671
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: just gonna happen. We're gonna be in the play Yeah,

672
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: it's a given. It's not how this game works.

673
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 6: If this team was healthy going into the playoffs and

674
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 6: had a chance to do something special and then laid

675
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 6: an egg again. Then we can have the conversation because

676
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 6: you're one and four in the playoffs and it just

677
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 6: hasn't worked out. However, this isn't a normal season. You

678
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 6: weren't given, like you said, the cards that were dealt

679
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 6: with differently. And I know a lot of people are

680
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 6: probably already tuning us out because they're like, oh, they're

681
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 6: just offending Mike McCarthy. They're on the Cowboys away. This

682
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 6: is what football is, and that's just plain and simple

683
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 6: what it is. We've been very critical of Mike McCarthy

684
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 6: in the past, sometimes to a fault.

685
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: We've we've had our own individual conversation. Man, everybody can

686
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: get it. Okay, well keep it one hundred were analyst.

687
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: This is this is not one of those situations.

688
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 6: Let's go to tyrone in Pennsylvania, tyrone on the line

689
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 6: in enemy country.

690
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 7: What's going on, gentlemen, Marry Christmas.

691
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: Mary, Christmas Iron.

692
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, Eric, Yeah.

693
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, Hey, that's everything. I'm thirty eight years old, and

694
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 7: anyone that's my age group are a little older. They

695
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 7: sing that song the minute they hear me.

696
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not I'm not going to sing that song

697
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: to you, but I will acknowledge it.

698
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 7: So I'm going to actually piggyback off of what y'all

699
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 7: just were talking about with Mike McCarthy. So Neil I

700
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 7: think his name is Neil O'donnald Vikings head coach. That's

701
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 7: a new coach. Nick Sirianni, that's a new head coach.

702
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 7: Dan Campbell that's the new head coach. Sure right, So

703
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 7: all three of those coaches were coordinators that the team

704
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 7: hired and moved on from, you know, other coaches that

705
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 7: weren't getting it done.

706
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

707
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 7: My take with Mike McCarthy is he's Tony Dungee. He's

708
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 7: the two thousand Tony Dungee. So he has an amazing

709
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 7: one side of the ball that's going to be our offense.

710
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 7: Tony Duneys was the defense, and for whatever reason, as

711
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 7: great as Tony Dungee was and he eventually won a

712
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 7: Super Bowl, he could not get that Buck team over

713
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 7: the hump. And it took them going outside and say

714
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 7: what you want about the man. We're not going to

715
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 7: talk about the man, but the coach, John Ruden was

716
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 7: able to fix the other side of the ball that

717
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 7: prevented them from getting over the hump and eventually got

718
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 7: you know, well not eventually got them the super Bowl

719
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 7: that they were looking for. So that's my take on

720
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy. I think as we may be spoiled with

721
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 7: ten win seasons, but ten win we need now, we

722
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 7: need the next step, right like that. That's what it

723
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 7: is the Cowboys over the last twenty five years. Go

724
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 7: look at the records. This isn't new. The Cowboys have

725
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 7: been one of the most winningest teams sure over the

726
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 7: last twenty five years. And Mike McCarthy is the best

727
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 7: head coach we've had since Jimmy Johnson. I will put

728
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy over Bill Parselves, I really will.

729
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 5: He's had more success, Yeah.

730
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 7: He's had more success, longevity, everything, but he's just not

731
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 7: getting it done in the issue for me has always

732
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 7: been his unwillingness to ad just sooner. That has been

733
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 7: my biggest gripe. You have a thousand yard back fa

734
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 7: ric odawbeles he's probably gonna hit a thousand yards, which

735
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 7: that's not that big of a deal with seventeen games,

736
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 7: but he's gonna hit a thousand yards. Probably he probably

737
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 7: would have hit twelve thirteen if they would have ran

738
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 7: the ball earlier. But this whole game plan with Cooper Rush,

739
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 7: why can't we do this game plan with Dak Prescott.

740
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 5: I've got and we do that.

741
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 6: I've got two follow up questions for you. You named

742
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 6: the Lions, the Eagles, and the Vikings head coaches. I mean,

743
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 6: I know, and you can, yeah, throw the Commanders in

744
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 6: there too.

745
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 5: How many how many of those coaches do you feel

746
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 5: like would be available for the Cowboys to go and

747
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 5: plug this year?

748
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 7: I would actually look at either Robert Sala or Mike Rabel.

749
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 6: Okay, so two guys that have failed in different spots,

750
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 6: one in the Tennessee Titans and one at the New

751
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 6: York Jets.

752
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 7: Right, Well, I wouldn't call Mike Graybolt failing because he

753
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 7: took Ryan Tannehill to an AFC title game.

754
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 6: Fair.

755
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 7: I would not say that the sale because for me,

756
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 7: that would be a successful someone that got a Super Bowl.

757
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 7: I'm just looking for someone who has taken the next

758
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 7: step more recently than Mike McCarthy and Ryan Tannehill to me,

759
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 7: taking Ryan Tannehill on the Titan to an ANFC title

760
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 7: game where we haven't snipped the NFC Title game, and

761
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 7: you know, I was like eight years old that that

762
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 7: that's a big deal for me, right, Like, that's something

763
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 7: that I would like to see, you know, before I'm forty, and.

764
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: I'm I'm glad that you're you're bringing that up, because

765
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: you're right, you're not looking at coaches that have Super

766
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 6: Bowls because all six coaches that you named don't have

767
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl currently. But I do want to ask

768
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 6: you this. You said you brought up Tony Dungee and

769
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 6: the transition to John Gruden. I get that as a comparison.

770
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 6: I actually liked that comparison a lot. Tony Dungee was

771
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 6: a great head coach in his own right, so was

772
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 6: John Gruden. However, do you feel like when you look

773
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 6: at this roster right now, do you feel like this

774
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 6: roster is good enough in order to take the next

775
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 6: step moving forward? Because a lot of the gripe this

776
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 6: year has been this roster is not good enough. They

777
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 6: did not do enough in the offseason, they did not

778
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 6: do enough here. The cap space is garbage at this point,

779
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 6: and you're going to have some more cap space garbage

780
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 6: to deal with in twenty twenty five. Do you feel

781
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 6: like a coach, one guy, one leader that can come

782
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 6: in out of the street and immediately fix what's going

783
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 6: on with this Cowboys organization is out there and available

784
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 6: right now, because I don't see my point.

785
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 7: My thing is with that is I think this is

786
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 7: every king deals with that cap space issue, every single

787
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 7: team deals with it. If you have top end talent

788
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 7: at different times, yes, so you're gonna deal with that.

789
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 7: But what the good coaches do. They squeeze as much

790
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 7: juice out of that lemon as they can.

791
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: Like winning four games in five game if five games

792
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 6: with Cooper Rush at quarterback, Oh hey.

793
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 7: He again, what he has done over this five game

794
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 7: span has been impressive. I will give him that. However,

795
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 7: it's just I can't forget what has happened leading up

796
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 7: to it. I can't forget that.

797
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 5: I just I'm just we're just playing devil's advocations.

798
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 7: That's what I am.

799
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 9: Now.

800
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 4: I respect your opinion, I respect your inside. I'm just

801
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: are you forgetting about the three twelve one seasons?

802
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 7: No, not at all.

803
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: Are you taking Are you taking those for granted?

804
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 7: No, I'm not taking them for granted. But at the

805
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 7: same time, the you know, Jason Garrett had a couple

806
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 7: of those Waite Phillips had, you.

807
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 5: Know, but none of it.

808
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: But none of them had a winning percentage like coach McCarthy. No, no,

809
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: no matter what name you bring up, unless you go

810
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: all the way back to to Swisser, nobody's gonna have

811
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: a better regular season winning record than coach McCarthy. And

812
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: without a regular season record like that, you don't get

813
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: to the playoffs.

814
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 7: At the same time, though, don't we want to get

815
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 7: past that that that wall.

816
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but you have to get there. So I'm saying,

817
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: are we taking are we taking the getting their portion

818
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 4: for granted?

819
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 7: No, no, but sometimes you you know, sometimes you can't

820
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 7: be scared of change. You know, what it sounds like

821
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 7: is complacency. To me, that's what it sounds like. It's like, oh,

822
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 7: this is the first step. Cool, the first step is there?

823
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 7: I think we have we have the talent to always

824
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 7: do that. We always have the talent to win nine,

825
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 7: ten to eleven games minimum. I always see that people

826
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 7: want to play in Dallas, they draft well. Will McClay

827
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 7: is probably, in my opinion, the best non.

828
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 5: GM in in you know, the I'll agree with you there, Yeah,

829
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 5: And we.

830
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 7: Will always draft well and we will always find little

831
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 7: diamonds and gems in the rough. You know, that will

832
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 7: that will be able to pay little but get top

833
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 7: end productions or not top end, but you know like

834
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 7: that production.

835
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: I respect that opinion. But the game's changed. From a

836
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 4: player standpoint, the game has changed. Cats are not going

837
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 4: to places because of what's on the helmet anymore. Cats

838
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 4: are going to places because I got to get my money.

839
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm just telling you from the player's perspective,

840
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 4: it has changed. You bring up Will McLay. Will McLay

841
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 4: is not a sure thing to be back here next year.

842
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: That's another thing. That's another conversation that has to be

843
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: had going into this offseason. Right, there's things that have

844
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: changed in that regard. So you can't rest your head

845
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: on this. Yeah, we're gonna draft, Well, that's not a

846
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: sure thing going forward. Well, and then you talk about

847
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 4: the cap space. You don't have top three players at

848
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: three different positions in every team in the league, right,

849
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: You don't have that, So that's not a fair comparison either.

850
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: So these are all things that you have to take

851
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: into consideration. And are you, as a fan, willing if

852
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 4: you know, if you feel comfortable and confident. And we've

853
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: been spoiled, from Mike McCarthy's standpoint for the last three

854
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: years to get twelve wins seasons, and this year you

855
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 4: might even still find a way to get a winning season.

856
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 4: Are you willing to take one, two, maybe three years

857
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: of losing for another coach to come in here and

858
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: establish his system.

859
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, That's where I'm at with it, Tyrone. Great call,

860
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 6: by the way, Thank you for calling. Appreciate all the insight.

861
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: I love it because he's asking really real love, he

862
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: really is.

863
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 5: And and his opinion is valid.

864
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 6: Yes, there's lack of consistency in the playoffs, playing and

865
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 6: simple you're one and three in the playoffs.

866
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 5: I get it.

867
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 6: But if you what he's asking for as a coach

868
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 6: to come in and immediately take you to the promised lands.

869
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: That's what everybody wants.

870
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 6: But like the best chance for you to get to

871
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 6: the promised land is currently in that head coach's office

872
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 6: across the way.

873
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 4: If so, look at it from this perspective, I know

874
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 4: we gotta get out here, listen, get to the playoffs.

875
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 4: So you, if you have the confidence that your team

876
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: is going to be in position to go to the playoffs,

877
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 4: with a coach McCarthy right aside from this year where

878
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: you had a gazillion injuries. Would you rather have a

879
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: coach that you just want him to focus have to

880
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: work on one aspect of his coaching, which is getting

881
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: through the playoffs, or would you rather get another coach

882
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: that has to worry about getting to the playoffs and

883
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: then getting through the playoffs as well. That's what you're

884
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 4: looking at. So you can call that complacent if you

885
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: want to, or you can look at it and say, okay,

886
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: this one, this person needs to work on this one

887
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: aspect and if they if they, if they nail that,

888
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: if they nail that, then guess what we're We're having

889
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: a whole different conversation. Or are you ready to the

890
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: dice and get somebody else in here and be like,

891
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: oh crap, you know what. We thought that was a

892
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: good idea, but oh we just don't know.

893
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: Is it complacency or consistency?

894
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly exactly.

895
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 6: Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll wrap

896
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 6: this one up and send you off to Christmas. Here

897
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 6: on Talking Cowboys.

898
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 11: Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the

899
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 11: Cheatah Savannah.

900
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 16: Todd believed the big cat repellent he bought online was reliable,

901
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 16: and now Todd is trying to be faster than this

902
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 16: cheetah that can run eighty miles per hour. But the

903
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 16: good news is Todd has AT and T five G.

904
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 16: It is fast, reliable, and secure, and he learned the

905
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 16: best thing to do is stop running and toss her

906
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 16: the backpack with the beef stew.

907
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 11: At and T five G. Fast, reliable, secure.

908
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 14: Five G requires compatible plan and device five G may

909
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 14: not be available in your areas. See add dot com

910
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 14: slash five G for you fifty deals.

911
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 17: They say champions are remembered, but legends are never forgotten.

912
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 17: United Agen Turf offers a winning lineup of John Deere

913
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 17: equipment built to tackle any challenge on and off the field.

914
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 17: Legendary John Deere tractors, COMBA residential mowers, commercial mowers, compact

915
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 17: construction equipment, cater utility vehicles, and a full line of

916
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 17: golf and sports turf equipment. United Agon Turf the official

917
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 17: lagonturf equipment supplier of the Dallas Cowboys. Visit United dagonturf

918
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 17: dot com to find a location near you.

919
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: Hey, y'all.

920
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 9: Matt Pittman of Meat Church here with football season kicking off,

921
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 9: I'm already gear enough to bring the smoker back to

922
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 9: AT and T Stadium for some epic tailgates. But with

923
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 9: that Texas heat, it's crucial to keep my beer handcramp

924
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 9: and cold. That's where Yeti's insulated colster can cooler comes

925
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 9: in clutch this year. You can even get them with

926
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 9: the iconic star engraved on the side. Licensed Yetie Cowboys

927
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 9: gear is now available at stadium pro shops, concessions and

928
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 9: on Yetti dot com. Check it out today. YETI Official

929
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 9: cooler and drinkware of the Dallas Cowboys, and we're going

930
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 9: to overtime.

931
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 11: Erica, how much have I spent on concessions?

932
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 18: For questions about their money? Dallas Cowboys fans can turn

933
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 18: to Erica, the virtual financial assistant in the Bank of

934
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 18: America mobile banking app. Learn more at Bankfamerica dot com

935
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 18: com slash Erica by your side. Bank of America, Official

936
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 18: Bank of the Dallas Cowboys. Erica responses may very digital

937
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 18: tools featured required downloading the mobile banking app and may

938
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 18: only be available on select mobile devices. Erica is a

939
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 18: mobile feature only available in the Englis language. Your chap

940
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 18: maybe recorded and monitored for quality assurance. Message data rates

941
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 18: and additional terms may apply. Bank of America and a

942
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 18: number FDIC.

943
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: To Talking Cowboys, Talking Cowboys.

944
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 6: This portion of the show is brought to you by

945
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 6: in Visil Line, the official Smile of the Dallas Cowboys

946
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 6: with Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back high, I'm Kyle Yeomen's

947
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 6: Chris Beam in the back.

948
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 5: We've also got Josh in Chicago on the line with job.

949
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 19: Hey, guys, how you doing great?

950
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 4: Hello?

951
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 19: Good, Hey. I just wanted to tell you, Josh, this

952
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 19: one's for you more than anybody but Carl lass And

953
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 19: said it's Clober and time out there, man.

954
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 8: Colo in Philadelphia this Sunday.

955
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 4: I love.

956
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 19: It's hopefully yeah, hopefully on Sunday too. No, so I

957
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 19: really quickly. I just wanted to say I got two

958
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 19: under two that I'm at home with right now, and

959
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 19: your whole production crew. Everybody, Merry Christmas, and thank you

960
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 19: guys for being here today because you know, I know

961
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 19: you all are probably stressing about some personal stuff too,

962
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 19: right that you got to get done. So it's awesome

963
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 19: that you guys are still put on our show today

964
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 19: and I appreciate that.

965
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 7: Yeah.

966
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 6: Thanks Josh, appreciate it. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to year two,

967
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 6: and I hope Santa brings them everything that they ask.

968
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 19: Oh, yes, sir, yes, sir.

969
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: No, thanks to Patrick who's not here.

970
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 19: Yeah, he's out there on a RP island right now, right, I.

971
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 6: Love it, Josh, appreciate your call as always, Merry Christmas

972
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 6: and say hello to the little ones for us.

973
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: Appreciate you as always, right, Yeah.

974
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 19: Oh sorry, I just got to make one quick point

975
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 19: on if I can. Yeah, So, on the Mike McCarthy contract,

976
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 19: I called last week, I said, you know, two years,

977
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 19: and I think like you got to keep them on

978
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 19: a short least, maybe get a different play caller in there.

979
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 19: But at the consistency of twelve and five straight seasons,

980
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 19: you can't just let that go and go unnoticed. The

981
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 19: playoffs are what the playoffs are, right man. Playoffs are

982
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 19: a different game, as Isaiah will probably say. But I

983
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 19: do have a question for Isaiah more than anybody, I think,

984
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 19: looking at McCarthy, it's been almost like the culture has

985
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 19: been the culture of winning the last three seasons, and

986
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 19: I kind of wonder is that actually a culture because

987
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 19: you look around the league at some of these other

988
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 19: teams like Detroit, that's more of a culture of like

989
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 19: grit and fighting. But is winning itself a culture? And

990
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 19: that's kind of what I wanted to ask, is more

991
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 19: than anybody, But thanks, guys, have a great day, Merry Christmas.

992
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: Thanks. Now that's a really good question. And yes, winning

993
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 4: is a culture. It's an expectation of It is an

994
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: expectation of a certain level of excellence.

995
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: Right.

996
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 4: So certain things are not tolerated, and you can say

997
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 4: those things aren't tolerated in most places. But here in

998
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: Dallas you've you've always seen that they've found a way

999
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: to win ball games or at least always competitive in

1000
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: a position to win ball games. You can't say that

1001
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: about every organization. And when you come into certain programs, right,

1002
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 4: there's an understanding of how to go about your business

1003
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: there just is when I when I was here in Dallas,

1004
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: there is a way to go about your business. When

1005
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 4: I went to New England, it was a hello, it

1006
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: was totally different, right, And those are cultural changes based

1007
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 4: upon the leadership that's in the building, and in Dallas

1008
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 4: there is they have their own unique way. But when

1009
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 4: you step on that field, there's never a time in

1010
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: past years where you felt like Dallas is about to

1011
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 4: get blown out. I think there's only one team really earlier.

1012
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 5: This year was the only time I felt that way.

1013
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean I go back to, you know,

1014
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 4: there's only one team in recent years when you play them,

1015
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, this is probably not going to go well.

1016
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 4: And that was the forty nine ers. Yeah, and the

1017
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 4: forty nine you just felt like the forty nine ers

1018
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: just had Dallas Cowboys.

1019
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: They had their numbers.

1020
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had their number So, I mean, and that

1021
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: was a physicality thing, that was a mentality, but outside

1022
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: of that, you always felt like you were going to

1023
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 4: be competitive. So, yes, winning is a culture, but it

1024
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 4: takes time and it takes a foundation to establish that.

1025
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: And so when we're talking to people and getting these

1026
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: opinions in regards to bringing to somebody else, understand that

1027
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: you're an etching sketch and you're you're just shaking it up, right,

1028
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: and you have a blank slate, and now you want

1029
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 4: that person to come in, and you're asking that person

1030
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: to not only come in and supersede what the twelve

1031
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: and five coach did, but supersede that and then go

1032
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 4: past the where he went in the playoffs. That's just

1033
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: that's wishful thinking. Yeah, it's wishful thinking.

1034
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 6: And it may happen. It may happen, but may is

1035
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 6: like hope, and we know hope's not a strategy. It's

1036
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 6: the same thing on the opposite. And you could hire

1037
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 6: or you could extend Mike McCarthy in to go south.

1038
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 6: That may happen, but that's why you play the game, absolutely.

1039
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 5: Why it happens.

1040
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 6: And I think you got to look at it from

1041
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 6: a pure I don't want to say analytical because that's

1042
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 6: not true.

1043
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 5: It's more more so a feel.

1044
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 6: It's more so you got to look inward and say,

1045
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 6: who's game is going to give us the best shot

1046
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 6: to do what we want to do, which is get

1047
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 6: to an NFC title game, and that's win a Super Bowl.

1048
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 5: Who's going to give you the best shot to do it?

1049
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 6: If you sit there, as Jerry Jones in your your

1050
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 6: office upstairs and you say, Mike Vrabel's that guy, Sure

1051
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 6: go ahead, get it done. If you can sit there

1052
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 6: and you say Mike McCarthy's that guy, I think I

1053
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 6: would agree with you say there's a shot there too.

1054
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 5: You've got to make that decision. This front office has

1055
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 5: got to make that decision.

1056
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 6: We heard the great call from Tyrone, which I'm going

1057
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 6: to say it again, that's a phenomenal call. He brought

1058
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 6: up a lot of great points, and I think it's

1059
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 6: a lot of what the fans are thinking about right now.

1060
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 5: And I get it, I really do.

1061
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 6: There's a frustration with the way that they played in

1062
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 6: the playoffs, but he said, you got to squeeze all

1063
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 6: of what you can out of the roster.

1064
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: You're seeing that right now.

1065
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 6: We've got a guy in Josh's Chicago mentioning Carl Lawson

1066
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 6: and what he said after the game, who the heck

1067
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 6: is Karl Lawson?

1068
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 7: For this season?

1069
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 6: Nobody would have known who the heck Carl Lawson was.

1070
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 6: Now you do, and he's one of the top guys

1071
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 6: on the in this pass rush. A lot of that

1072
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 6: has to do with the culture of winning and squeezing

1073
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 6: the rest out of that limon like they're doing right now.

1074
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 5: And I get it.

1075
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 6: It's a draft and develop organization, and you get a

1076
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 6: lot of these guys, plain and simple. They've whiffed on

1077
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 6: two drafts so far, back to back, and that's part

1078
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 6: of why you're having some problems.

1079
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 8: That's tough to say true, but it's true Whift completely.

1080
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: I think it's tough.

1081
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 6: We the one guy that we are I would say

1082
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 6: two guys and they're both linebackers, de Marvin Overshown, who

1083
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 6: we won't see until twenty twenty six. And the other

1084
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 6: guy you feel pretty good about it is Mary Sleafu Yeah,

1085
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 6: and Cooper b B.

1086
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: I guess Cooper BB up front.

1087
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 6: So maybe not Whift, but let's say they like fouled

1088
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 6: one off a couple of times and they they may

1089
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 6: have hit a seeing ice single up the middle.

1090
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 8: I would say the last two drafts have not been perfect,

1091
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 8: but I don't know who has had a perfect draft.

1092
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's other than the Cowboys.

1093
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: Like this game of football, it's really this game of football.

1094
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: Top is not a sure thing, No, like, it's just not. Man,

1095
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: it's hard. It's hard. And I know from fan standpoint,

1096
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: people get behind their brand and they rock with them

1097
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 4: and they have a level of expectation, but crap's a hard.

1098
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 4: Man is really difficult, and it changes every year.

1099
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 8: And I guarantee you if just case in point, the

1100
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 8: Lions they make it to of course they're going to

1101
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 8: the playoffs. They don't get to the Super Bowl. They

1102
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 8: don't win the Super Bowl, they take a step back

1103
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 8: next year. Are the fans gonna be upset? Are the

1104
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 8: fans going to be like.

1105
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and there's going to because they're gonna have

1106
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 4: a lot of change. They're probably gonna lose both of

1107
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: their coordinators probably.

1108
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 8: So you'd expect the fans then to Are they going

1109
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 8: to be positive about it, like all right, guys, we'll

1110
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 8: get back or are they going to expect because they've

1111
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 8: been spoiled from this year, like well, we got to

1112
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 8: go right back to the super Bowl, right, No, we're

1113
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 8: gonna go right back to it.

1114
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 5: They're happy to be there.

1115
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 4: They are most likely going to lose both of their coordinators.

1116
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 4: There's gonna be a ton of change there, just like

1117
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: there's change because.

1118
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna be highly sought up.

1119
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 4: They're gonna be highly sought out for. They stay. Both

1120
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 4: of their coordinators stayed last year, they're not staying again.

1121
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 5: Didn't Philly lose both of their coordinators last year? Yeah,

1122
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 5: they're still winning the games. Anyways, let's continue, So we'll

1123
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 5: talk again on Thursday. Merry Christmas.

1124
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 6: Everybody have some fun over the next couple of days.

1125
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 6: Happy Holidays for all those who celebrate as well.

1126
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 5: We love you all.

1127
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 6: Thank you for calling in, Thank you for all the

1128
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 6: support throughout the season. Here on Talking Cowboys, and we

1129
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 6: will talk to you again Thursday. We're gonna do a

1130
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 6: show and tell with with Josh's Oculus and his brand

1131
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 6: new Yes give him Santa.

1132
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 4: Everybody meet at Josh's house all right for Josh Ryder.

1133
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 6: You guys, Isaiah stand back, Chris Beam in the Back'm

1134
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 6: Kyle Yeoman saying so long.

1135
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 5: We'll see you on Thursday. Merry Christmas, Cowboys Nation.

1136
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

1137
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.