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That's a Bloomberg business flash, 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: Tom and Mike Mosca, thank you very much. We're talking 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: with the dean of the Tufts Fletchers School, Admiral James 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: de Res. He is a former Supreme Commander of US 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: Forces in Europe and he's making a smarter about foreign policy. 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: As we considered the two thousand sixteen presidential race, Uh, 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: we have candidate, most of the candidates, shall we say, 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: who are running for president on both sides of the aisle, 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: did not make a mark or their market in foreign policy. Admiral, 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: So what is it that a new president needs to 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: know what's the most important thing for them when they 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: come to office, because many of our presidents have not 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: had a lot of foreign policy experience when they take 41 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: the oath of office. Now that's a great point, Mike. 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Let's say at the top of my list is actually temperaments. Um, 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: what you need is a president who, even if he 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: or she is not traveled extensively or had big jobs 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: in foreign policy, at least has a proclivity for the 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: international world, is interested in, is intrigued by it, and 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: recognizes how intertwined the US economy is with the rest 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: of the world. Secondly, a president needs to make good 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: choices about advisers. So I'll be listening as the campaign 50 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: unfolds as to who these candidates think they will bring 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: with them on their teams. So those are two things 52 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: that start with, and well, good morning. I should point 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: out if we pointed out before the animals, Davita's joined 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: when it was least popular to be part of the military. 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: I believe that was in the vicinity plus or minus 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: a year. We have coming up later, Jeff Garden, whose 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: father is truly one of the most distinguished soldiers of 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: this nation fighting in three wars, World War two, Korea 59 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: and Vietnam. How important is military service within an administration, 60 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: not just the president, but the vice president and the 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: lead advisors, even if they showed up for a cup 62 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: of coffee when they were twenty two. How big a 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: deal is that animal. It's a big plus I think 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: in any individual. And you know I'm going to say 65 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: that to put on the cloth of their country, but 66 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: to be practical in today's world, Thomas, you know, less 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: than one per cent of the US population ever serves 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: in the US military. It's really quite striking. So you're 69 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: not going to have a huge number of former military, 70 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: but I think a few in the mix is a 71 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: very positive thing. I look at where we are, and 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: there's any number of ways to go here. But to 73 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: stay on globalization, what are you teaching at Fletcher on 74 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: globalization right now? Is it a new globalization or is 75 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: it just the same old story now? I think there 76 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: are new vectors in what we think of as globalization, Tom, 77 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: And at the top of my list is actually biology. 78 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: The world of biology, the sequencing of the human genome, biotech, 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: all of those things will profoundly influence the international order. Secondly, 80 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: pretty obvious as cyber. Third, i'd say is the rise 81 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: of Africa, which is something we're driving into our curriculum 82 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: eight of the ten fastest growing economies, huge population surge. 83 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Fourth the role of women, And fifth Tom i'd say 84 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: social networks, the way they're connecting us, influencing us and 85 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: helping move diplomacy globally. How does that influence what the 86 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: next president and the president after that are going to 87 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: have to deal with? I think, first and foremost, we 88 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: ought to be thinking more about cyber both as a benefit, 89 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: which it obviously is, but Mike, it's a huge risk 90 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: as well, and we see this in a cast scating 91 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: series of episodes. I'm most concerned about our electrical grid, 92 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: for example. Uh. Secondly, we need to invest more and 93 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: think more about bio biology and how that's going to 94 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: impact our economies going forward. Those are two areas that 95 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: I think our executive branch has not put enough focus 96 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: on that are well worth considering. Is it been a 97 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: surprise to you a little discussion of Pentagon budget we've 98 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: seen so far in the election. I mean, I believe 99 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: it's a small part of the budget. I'm just amazed 100 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't come up. I agree with you, Tom. Frankly, 101 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: I think that today we've seen about a drop in 102 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: the budget as a percentage of GDP. We're at our 103 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: lowest level and number of soldiers, number of ups. I 104 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: think you'll see that perhaps come back to the four 105 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: when we get to the general election. But at the 106 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: moment it is submerged. We need to be cautious. It's 107 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: a dangerous world out there. Well, given the threats that 108 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: we see, where are we perhaps too shorthand? I think 109 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: three areas that I would put more focus on in 110 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: the military. One I mentioned already and it's cyber. I 111 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: think it's time to think about creating a small but 112 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: very capable cyber force, just like the Army, the Navy, 113 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: the Air Force, the Marine Corps. I think we need 114 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: a cyber force. Secondly, more emphasis on special forces. I 115 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: don't think we need to deploy a hundred thousand troops 116 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: to Iraq Afghanistan, but we need trainers and mentors those 117 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: elite forces. That's brilliant. How do you define special forces? 118 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean we've all got our John Wayne movie, you know, 119 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: Green Beret images, which I'm sure totally incorrect. How does 120 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: the prole you define special forces? Well, the thing they're 121 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: the best at and the most important aspect of their 122 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: amitia tom is their training ability, their ability to advise 123 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: and matter. Were to remember special forces through out a 124 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Green Berets in Vietnam who are there to train the 125 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: South Vietnamese. So we always think about putting red dots 126 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: on forehead sending people out to kill individuals. That's a 127 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: small part of what they do. Their tea mission is 128 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: to help train indigenous forces to fight better. That's the 129 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: key for special forces. What is the state of our 130 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: relations with the rest of the world, and uh, what's 131 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: the world looking for from us when we get a 132 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: new administration. I think the world is hoping to see 133 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: more leadership from us. You know, nature of horrors a vacuum, 134 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: but that Vladimir Putin loves one and as the US 135 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: has has failed to step up in crises as spirit, 136 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: as Syria has not pushed hard enough in Ukraine, has 137 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: not truly engaged the Islamic state to date, um that 138 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: vac hum is being filled by others, and I think 139 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: globally speaking, the world would like to see more US 140 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 1: engagement and foreign policy and secure In the final minutes 141 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: we've got left with you, Adam, Well, let's come up 142 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: to date and without question the intractable issue of the moment, 143 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: which is migrants and refugees. I keep reminding people that 144 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: the distance from Turkey to Greece is two and a 145 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: half miles. I don't know for those of you had 146 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Boston, I think it's sort of like Felmuth the 147 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard, or it's you know, Hyannista, it's not even 148 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Houston Nantucket, it's Martha's Vineyard. I mean, we're the distances 149 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: here are unmanageable. What is the prescription to at least 150 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: get control of the flow? We've talked about it before, 151 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: Tom and on the treating the symptoms end of this, 152 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: I think what is needed is more resources and manpower 153 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: to help patrol, surveill set up refugee camps, run and 154 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: operate those and that can include using the military in 155 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: this soft power kind of context. But you and I 156 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: both know you have to deal with the disease. Why 157 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: why are these waves of refugees coming, And frankly, these 158 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: are not economic refugees by and large, these are asylum 159 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: seekers because of the meltdown of Syria. So we need 160 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: to address the problems in Syria. M will thank you 161 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: so much. James Javidas at the Fletcher School, Tough University 162 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: greatly appreciated this morning. You know, you know, you go 163 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: around the world, Mike, can you look at the issues 164 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: and you just wonder not so much in no Or 165 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, to be critical before the conventions, but the 166 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: second or third week in October, you really wonder where 167 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: our discussion will be on foreign policy. I have no 168 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: clue because people certainly suggesting that some of the candidates 169 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: are not qualified to deal with foreign policy. Can we 170 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: do a shameless plug for a book that we're gonna 171 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: talk about. Robert Gordon's book is one thousand, seven hundred pages. 172 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: It's like the Old Testament on steroids. Robert Gordon was 173 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: in the yesterday Michael McKee's Book of the Year asking 174 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: about American growth and we're making jokes. Maybe it's not 175 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: a beach read. Here is your summer beach read. It 176 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: is an exquisite ten chapters on globalization and it's in 177 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: the King's English. It's from Jeffrey Garden and we will 178 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: look from Silk to Silicon. I love the chapter on 179 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: the underground cable that attached the Old World to the 180 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: New World a few decades ago. Do you think hundreds 181 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: some years ago. Jeffrey Garden will join us for a 182 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: I hope a wonderful half hour discussion on his new book, 183 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: hugely readable. Uh new book on ten people you need 184 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: to know more about to frame where this nation is going. 185 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Let's frame the data for you right now. Negative six 186 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: on futures down, futures negative thirty four. Michael McKee and 187 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: Tom Keane Another Monday Hour of Bloomberg's Surveillance m