1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: There's Child's w Chuck Bryant, and uh, this is stuff 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: you should know. Wow. Yeah, Uh you want to give 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: like just a general ceoa out of the gate. Yes, 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: this is a hot button issue guns right now in 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: this country, in the United States. It's a very tough topic, 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: and we are here to talk about do guns change 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: your behavior and studies that they've done on that. We 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: are not advocating for guns or advocating for gun control. 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: We are just presenting evidence that some people have presented. Yeah, 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: how's that. Well. We should say also that I think 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: some especially people who are pro gun, um are they? 14 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: I mean, your sensitivity might be a little um right now. Yeah, 15 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like you, this, this particular podcast may 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: strike you as as biased, even though it's not, simply 17 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: because the studies have found things like you know, there 18 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: are increased homicide rates and suicide rates associated with guns 19 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: and things like that. So we're again we're just reporting 20 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: some compiled body of work and we're presenting in an 21 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: unbiased manner. Good job, thanks man. So um, we just 22 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: kind of let the cat out of the bank. And 23 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: if you are in the guns, if you are pro gun, 24 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: you will probably point out that you own guns for sport, 25 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: your own guns for home protection. Um. And you may 26 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: point to a statistic that ownership of guns in the 27 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: United States is higher than it ever has been at 28 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: any point and not necessarily coincidentally, the homicide rate has 29 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: dropped since that's right, So there's an inverse correlation, you 30 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: could say, between gun ownership in the United States and 31 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: just by a number of guns and the homicide rate. Yeah, which, uh, 32 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: gun advocates will say, you know, like, give people more 33 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: guns and it will be actually less violence because if 34 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: everyone is armed, then there will be fewer people like 35 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: invading your home because hey, I know you've got a 36 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: gun in there, that kind of thing. Um. Now, the 37 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: other side, people who are in favor of gun control 38 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: would point out that, yes, the homicide rate has dropped, um, 39 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: but there's actually fewer people who own guns than ever before, 40 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: Fewer households, yes, with guns, but more the people that 41 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: have guns have more guns. And yeah, as Mark Twain 42 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: famously said, there are three types of lies, lies, damn lines, 43 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and statistics. And this is a pretty good example of that. Like, 44 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: this is one statistic that can be looked at two 45 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: different ways. Yeah, Like, there's more guns in the United 46 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: States than ever before, and the homicide rate has dropped. 47 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: There's also fewer people in the United States who own 48 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: guns than ever before, and the homicide rate has dropped. Right, 49 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: it's just fewer people owning more guns, right. Um, And boy, 50 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: you were dead on with the statistic thing in this, 51 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: uh topic, Because depending on how you want to research, 52 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna find statistics to support your way of thinking. Probably, Um, 53 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: so what we encourage people to do, you probably have 54 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: your mind made up anyway on this issue. A data, 55 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: if a statistic, is going to change anyone in his mind. 56 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: But go out and just look at all the non 57 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: biased research, is what I say. Yeah, don't go to 58 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: n r A and get your stats, and don't go 59 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: to whatever the n r A equivalent and gun equivalent 60 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: is and get your stats. Try and get them from 61 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: like unbiased sources. Uh. Yeah. And one of the former 62 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: um unbiased sources that used to put out a lot 63 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: of UM gun violence studies unbiased you would imagine, is 64 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: the CDC. Yeah, And the CDC used to put out 65 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, a lot of stuff there there, 66 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: and then there was a dearth of it beginning in 67 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: which I didn't know about this until today. In the 68 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: n r A successfully lobbied Congress to stop funding the 69 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: CDC's work on gun violence. Yes. Um, And this is 70 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: where it gets a little nitpicky with the wording. They 71 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: didn't specifically say you can't research gun violence. What they 72 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: did was they reduced the amount of funding by the 73 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: exact dollar amount that they spent the previous year on research, 74 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: and at attached this quote to it in the appropriations bill, 75 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: none of the funds made available for injury prevention and 76 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: control at the CDC may be used to advocate or 77 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: promote gun control. So uh, pro gun folks would say, 78 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, and we never said they couldn't do any research. 79 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: What we said was, you can't do research that has 80 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: findings that support gun control. So if the findings support 81 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: gun control, you can't do that, basically, right, And anything 82 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: like any finding that showed that, you know, there's an 83 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: increased risk of violence linked to guns, you could interpret 84 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: under that sentence as advocating gun control. Yeah. And in 85 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: two thousand three, the language is updated to include a 86 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: whole or in part which expanded things, and then in 87 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: twelve it expanded the restriction to all health and human 88 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: service agencies. Although January of this year, President Obama has 89 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: now hauled for funding specifically for he had I think 90 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: it's twenty three point memo, Yeah, of what he wanted 91 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: to get through in terms of research. Yeah, those were 92 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: the executive orders that he could carry out that had 93 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: to do with gun control. Basically ten million bucks for 94 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: additional research, which is a lot more than they used 95 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: to get it peaked at two point six millions. So 96 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: throwing ten million dollars at this today, even adjusted for inflation, 97 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: that's going to produce a lot more studies on um 98 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: gun violence for the CDC and people. Before you get 99 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: worked up, this is research. They are saying, we should 100 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: do research on this. They're they're basically framing it as 101 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: a public health epidemic because people are dying. And hey, 102 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: we study how violent or how how automobiles kill people. 103 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: We study how alcohol and drugs skill people, we study 104 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: how everything is killed. Everything kills people except the guns, right, 105 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: so we should start researching this just to get some 106 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: current statistics on it. And if you want to get 107 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: rolled up about anything, get rolled up about the idea 108 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: that Congress banned scientific study period. Yeah, and you can 109 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: basically from the research I found, you can lay this 110 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: at the feet of Bob bar and new Gingrich's basically 111 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: the two representatives from Georgia new Ingridg's head almost as 112 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 1: much power as Clinton, and um, yeah, that was pretty 113 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: much who was responsible for this. Well. J. Dicky, the 114 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: the representative who sponsored the amendment back then, has now 115 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: recanted and said, you know what, he's no longer in office, 116 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: but he wrote an editorial stating that quote, scientific research 117 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: should be conducted into preventing firearm injuries, and that ways 118 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: to prevent firearm desks can be found without encroaching on 119 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: the rights of legitimate gun owners. So basically he's come 120 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: out and said, you know, we should research this stuff, 121 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: not saying banned guns or go to people's houses and 122 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: grab the guns, but at the very least, we should 123 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: do the research so we know what we're talking about 124 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 1: and so the American public can make their own informed 125 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: decisions one way or the other. Right, that's right, Okay, 126 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: So that's why there was a there's been a dearth 127 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: of reliable statistics since Um, but CDC is not the 128 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: only people carrying out um this kind of research. Other 129 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: people have who are independent of Congress for funding. Yeah, 130 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: not a ton though, because there's not a lot of 131 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: funding period. So it's pretty sad, Like I read this 132 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: one article on that a lot of the people that 133 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: did this. It's not like you can just pick any 134 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: old researcher and say research gun violence like you have 135 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: to have it, like it has to be your specialty. 136 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: And a lot of people have just don't do this 137 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: anymore because of that band. So it's sadly it's hard 138 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: to find people qualified enough to even do it now. Yeah, 139 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, no matter what it is, people go to 140 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: where the money is, right, absolutely, Um, So the the 141 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: stuff that we do have though, the studies we do have, 142 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: reliable studies that we do have pretty much across the 143 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: board point to an increased risk of death if a 144 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: gun's present. But before, I guess, before we talk about that, yeah, 145 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: I think now it's probably a good time for a message, Rick, Okay, 146 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about them the weapon effect. Yeah, this is 147 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: a very touchy subject as well. Um. In nineteen sixty seven, Uh, 148 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: these two dudes, Leonard Berkowitz and Anthony lapage Um did 149 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: a little study where they brought people into a room, 150 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: had UM the participants UH antagonized basically by someone else, 151 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: just to get them rilled up, and then they left 152 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: the room and were told that they could give them 153 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: electric shocks. Some people had a gun in the room 154 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: on the table and they said, don't worry about that, 155 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: that's just here from a previous study. Some people had 156 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: bad mitten rackets and they said, don't worry about that 157 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: from a previous study. And they found that just the 158 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: presence of guns in the room caused people to shock 159 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: more and harder at a higher voltage. So they dubbed 160 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: that the weapons effect, saying, just the mere presence of 161 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: a gun in the room, even when told to ignore it, 162 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: increased UM I grow behavior basically. And there's that's been 163 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: backed up by other studies. There's one in two thousand 164 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: six that showed that UM interacting with the gun actually 165 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: increases the testosterone levels of men. Wow, that is a lot. 166 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: That's a huge increase, right, UM. So this study basically 167 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: they said, here, play with this gun and then UM, 168 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: now we're gonna firstly, took a swab and tested the 169 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: testosterone levels. Then they said, here, play with this gun, 170 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: and afterward we're gonna take another swab. But in the meantime, 171 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: we're also gonna let you put hot sauce in the 172 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: water of somebody who's gonna have to drink it. And 173 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: the the men who um handled the gun and messed 174 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: around with the gun for a while put um far 175 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: more hot sauce into the water than the men who 176 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: didn't handle a gun, three times as much hot sauce. 177 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: And the same two previous guys, Berkowitz and Lapage did 178 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: another one that I found really interesting. Um they put 179 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: a pickup truck in traffic with um, well different pickup trucks, 180 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: some with guns in the rack and some without a 181 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: gun rack at all, and made them sit at a 182 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: traffic light that had turned green for twelve seconds to 183 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: see how people behind them responded. And surprisingly, people were 184 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: more likely to haunk their horns if there was a 185 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: gun in the truck ahead of them, which they said 186 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: that meant see, the presence of a gun just makes 187 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: people more aggressive, Whereas I was kind of like, ah, 188 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: that that's sort of weird that they would be more 189 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: aggressive towards someone with a gun when you didn't have one. Yeah, well, 190 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: it's almost like possibly that people interpret that as a threat. 191 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: Just the presence of a gun maybe someone else is 192 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: flaunting to the rest of the world is just kind 193 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: of some sort of veiled threat despite its very presence. 194 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: We UM. We detect guns actually faster than we detect 195 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: um snakes, spiders. These are things called fear relevant stimuli 196 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: and guns, fall, guns, syringes they fall into this category 197 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: as well. And humans are hardwired evolutionarily to to be 198 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: able to pick out a snake out of a landscape 199 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: faster than say, we can pick out like a wood chuck, 200 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: a chipmunk or something like that, because we know from 201 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: eons of of of evolution that these things are very 202 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: dangerous to us. Studies have found that we can pick 203 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: guns out faster than we can pick snakes out. So yeah, yeah, 204 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: that's very quick evolution. It's it's called the threat superiority effect, 205 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: where we can we can identify threatening objects faster than 206 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: non threatening objects. And apparently guns and syringes too, I 207 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: think are topping the list these days. Uh. They also 208 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: found that UM drivers who have a gun in the 209 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: car were significantly more likely to UM do things like 210 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: makeup scene gestures that other people compared to sixteen percent, 211 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: UM follow too close aggressively four to eight percent, or 212 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: both six point three percent to two point eight percent. 213 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: So uh. And then they even found that even when 214 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: guns weren't around, just the mere suggestion of aggressive words 215 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: as opposed to non aggressive words like gun, Uh, people 216 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: were more aggressive in these studies. So, you know, people, 217 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people have supported the weapons effect study 218 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: and said no, it's perfectly valid. And a lot of 219 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: people have said no, you know what the weapons effect 220 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: is bs and that study is invalid. So, um, which 221 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: one is? Which one is larger? Yeah? Right? Exactly? Which? 222 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't know? I mean I think, as with all things, 223 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: that depends on who you're talking to, you know, I 224 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: don't know if there's it's been broken down like that. Um. Okay, 225 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: So it seems to there seems to be some sort 226 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: of evidence at least that there's the potential for increased 227 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: aggression um with the presence of a gun. Right. There's 228 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: also um studies that show and this is the one apparently. 229 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why people aren't talking about this more, 230 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: especially with the gun debate that's going on now. But 231 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about a correlation, talk about 232 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: suicide and the presence of guns. I think that's one 233 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: that's pretty much not been refuted. Um, there were a 234 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: lot of gun deaths in the US and two thousand 235 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: and eleven, UM, eleven thousand of them were homicides and 236 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: nineteen thousand, seven hundred and sixties six were suicides, all 237 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: with firearms. So twice as many people took their own 238 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: lives with a gun then took someone else's life. Yeah, 239 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: and not only that, you UM. And again I hate 240 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: not having more recent research, but it's not our fault 241 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: that we it point to a study from three years ago, 242 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: you know. Um, but a nine study by the CDC 243 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: said that if you have a gun in the home, 244 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: you were five times more likely to commit suicide overall. 245 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: And um, in two thousand three, there actually was another 246 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: study that said access to a gun made someone more 247 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: than three times more likely to commit suicide than without. 248 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: UM and eight of people who shoot themselves succeed in dying, Which, well, 249 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: that's why they think that the correlation is so strong. 250 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: That then, so that's for people who really want to 251 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: end it, not to cry for help. Yeah, but probably 252 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: not gonna shoot yourself in the head if it's a 253 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: cry for help. Right, but what the what what the 254 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: people who are saying this is legitimate research are pointing 255 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: to is that this is that suicide is frequently an 256 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: impulsive act. Uh. And when you're in the midst of 257 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: a crisis and you are, um, you've decided to end it. Yeah, 258 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: if you do it, if you try hanging or pills 259 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: or carbon monoxide or whatever, you are less likely to 260 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: be successful than you are with a firearm. And so 261 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: the presence of a firearm in the house during that 262 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: time of crisis increases your likelihood of committing suicide by 263 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: a firearm. Yeah, but also chuck there. There's another study 264 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: that found that people who own a handgun and commit 265 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: suicide are far more likely to use the handgun than 266 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: another type of method. Oh right, even though that's available 267 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: to them as well. Right right, Well, I guess, like 268 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: I said, those people that probably really want to end 269 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: it all. Um. Interestingly, the Israeli Defense Force found that 270 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: their suicide rate dropped among its soldiers just by saying 271 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: you can't take your weapons home this weekend, so they 272 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: banned them from taking the weapons home over the weekend. 273 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: Suicide rate drop. Regardless where you stand on this issue, 274 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: it has pretty much been proven that guns in suicide. 275 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: There is a direct correlation going on there. Okay, homicide, 276 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: should we move on, Yes, let's move on. Um. So, 277 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: there's study that found that UM family disputes that turned 278 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: violent were three times more likely to result in death 279 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: if the gun was present in the house. UM, and 280 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: this was this was There was another study by the 281 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: CDC that found that homicides are about three times more 282 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: likely for family members in a house where there's a gun. 283 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: Two studies have found virtually the same thing, the presence 284 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: of a gun, at least in the nineties. The swing 285 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: in nineties, having a gun in the house meant that 286 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: each of the family members was three times more likely 287 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: apparently to UM die by a homicide. Right, and that 288 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: is the domestic dispute that gets out of hand. If 289 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: a gun is around, then your chances are hired that 290 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be in and murder. Well, one said, 291 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: a family dispute that turns violent, you're three times more 292 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: likely to result in death. The other one, the CDC one, 293 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: I think, was just plainly saying just having a gun 294 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: in the house to three times more likely to die 295 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: by homicide. Right, Okay, I guess it's fair to point 296 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: out though that most murdered murders don't happen at your 297 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: home unless, yeah, you're a woman, a child, or elderly. 298 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: So basically, if you're a average age man, you're you're 299 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: less likely to be murdered in your house. Everybody else 300 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: is more likely. Right, So, but if you were killed 301 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: in your home, um, the vast majority are people who 302 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: knew the perpetrator. Like, basically, the cases of someone breaking 303 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: into your house who you do not know and ending 304 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: and death are are much lower than than here. It 305 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: is right here, Fewer than of burglaries in the US 306 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: occur when someone's at home, period, and and the seven 307 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: percent where violence does occur, Uh, it's more likely to 308 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: be someone you know. So five percent of all the 309 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: crimes perpetrated by strangers occur, only five percent occur in 310 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: the house. So you're basically what the saying is, the 311 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: home is a pretty safe place by and large, and 312 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: so just having a gun that you keep at home. Um, 313 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: these studies then suggest actually increases your likelihood of you 314 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: or someone you love who lives in that house killing 315 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: one another, rather than somebody coming into your house and 316 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: you're protecting yourself USA that. Yeah, and they even, uh, 317 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: they went to the streets in night in two thousand 318 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: nine in Philadelphia and looked at six and seventy seven 319 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: shootings over a couple of years, and they found that 320 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: people that carry guns were four and a half times 321 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: more likely to be shot and four point two times 322 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: more likely to be killed. And I guess the thinking 323 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: there is, if you have a gun, you may just 324 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: feel more aggressive or more um likely to act ra 325 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: actually or put yourself in a bad part of town 326 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: because hey, I've got this protection, or to be aggressive 327 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: because you know you've got that protection. That kind of thing, um, 328 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: if you And there's this really really great article, UM 329 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: from two thousand ten that was in Harper's Magazine. It 330 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: was in the August two thousand ten UM issue. It's 331 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: called Happiness is a Warren Gun, and it's this guy's 332 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: like this basically his life carrying a gun and like 333 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: just what it's like. It's just a really great look 334 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: at what it's like to have a gun on you 335 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: at all times and like what that means. Um. He says, 336 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: you're in condition white, which is basically you're constantly on 337 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: high alert because if you're carrying a gun, you have 338 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: a sense of responsibility not just for yourself, but you 339 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: also need to protect everybody else if somebody starts shooting 340 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: or if there's a robbery or something like that. That's 341 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: why you have a gun on you. So you feel 342 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: a sense of stewardship of just other people, strangers in public. 343 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: Well sort you're the police all of a sudden. Yeah. Um. 344 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: And so you live in this thing, this this state 345 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: of called condition white, where you're just your threat response, 346 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: You're you're is constantly on at some level, which can 347 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: control Advocates I'm sure are all about condition white, right, 348 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, that's exactly what we're looking for, is 349 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: people to be alert and armed. Yeah. Um. This guy, 350 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: believe came to the conclusion that he was tired of 351 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: living in condition white as it's too exhausting, and I 352 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: think he stopped carrying. Maybe I don't remember how it ends, 353 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: but um, it's a really great article. I would recommend 354 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: anybody on either side of the of the issue to 355 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: read that Happiness is a Warren Gun in Harper's. I 356 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: saw dude in the grocery store the other day with 357 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: a piece on his hip, checking out in front of 358 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: me by a six pack of beer. Yeah, and it definitely, like, 359 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. When someone walks in 360 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: the room with a gun on their hip these days, 361 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: it changes the mood. I'm not saying it makes things 362 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: bad or good. I'm just saying it changes things. I 363 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: think it probably always has. Yeah, it's a weird thing. 364 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely see where people get divided on 365 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: the issue because here in Atlanta there's a lot of crime. 366 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: You hear about a story where some dude went to 367 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: carjack some guy and the dude had a gun in 368 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: his car and shot the guy and now that guy 369 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: is behind bars. I can see how people would be like, good, 370 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: he stopped a criminal like a cop would have. Whereas, 371 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, cops generally investigate already happened crimes. Rarely does 372 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: a cop like thwart a crime in progress. It's just 373 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: right place whereyme time, right time, and so like random 374 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: how that works out. Whereas if the citizens had the guns, 375 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: they could do that themselves. So I can see how 376 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: people get all up in arms and say, yeah, you know, 377 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: there's a case of a person that defended themselves successfully, 378 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: And then the other person might say, yeah, but what 379 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: about that guy whose son accidentally shoots himself in the 380 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: house when the guns out, Like it's two separate four 381 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: year olds yesterday accidentally killed two different people in two 382 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: different states. Yeah, the wife of a sheriff's deputy was 383 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: killed by a four year old at her house. Yeah, 384 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: Like there's with every story or with no matter how 385 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: you feel about it, you can pick the cherry pick 386 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: of story to fit your your beliefs. It's pretty like 387 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: the issue is very, very far from clear cut, and 388 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's just very hard to not see both sides. 389 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: I agree with you. There's a guy named David hem 390 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: and Way that wrote an article called Risks and Benefits 391 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: of a Gun in the Home for the American Journal 392 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: of Lifestyle Medicine in two thousand eleven. And this is 393 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: a sort of a newer thing where they're starting to 394 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: frame it. Like I said, it's a health issue, like 395 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: when people are dying, you should look at it as 396 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: a health issue. So he investigates it as such, and 397 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: um came out on the side of the American Academy 398 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: of Pediatrics, who officially have said do not have a 399 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: gun in in the home if you're a parent, Um 400 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: that they've they've the result of this study, at least 401 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: from him, and Way says, the evidence is overwhelming that 402 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: a gun in the house is more of a risk 403 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: factor for completed suicide UH and general violence than the 404 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: benefit side. There are fewer studies, UM that come out 405 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: saying it's actually a benefit to have in the home. 406 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: And kenne Saw George is a big uh. People point 407 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: to kenness All out because it very famously had a 408 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: law passed that mandated that you have a gun in 409 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: your home, and people have always says, well, look at 410 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: Kennessaw crime has gone down, he says him, and Way 411 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: says that that is not true, and if you look 412 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: at the evidence, it is not shown to decrease burglary 413 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: reports at all. And also famously in Morton Grove, Illinois, 414 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: that was a ban on handguns and uh, he points 415 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: out him and Way says, a careful analysis points out 416 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: that UM in Morton Grove, the banning of handguns actually 417 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: followed was actually followed by a large uh significant decrease 418 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: in burglary reports, so no one had guns and there 419 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: were a fewer burglaries, which lies in the face of 420 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: what Kinnesas is trying to do, saying guns in the 421 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: household will prevent burglaries. Well, yeah, there's UM and I 422 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: don't know the stats off the top of my head, 423 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: but there's a there's a pretty good stat um like 424 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: England has very very strict gun control and very low 425 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: homicide rates um from guns. Uh. And I think a 426 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: lot of people also point out like, Okay, well, if 427 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: you don't have guns, you're still gonna have knives, and 428 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: people are still going to kill each other. But I 429 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: think that UM, if you are a gun control advocate, 430 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: you would point out that, UM, it's kind of like 431 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: the completed suicide thing, like, yeah, people are still getting 432 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: to try to kill themselves, but they might not be successful, 433 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: and afterward they might be glad that they weren't successful 434 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: because their situation might improve. If you go to kill 435 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: somebody in a fit of rage and you have a gun, 436 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: you're more likely to be successful than say with a 437 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: knife or a baseball bat or something like that. Um, 438 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: And therefore not being able to complete this homicide, UH, 439 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: this situation may improve for both people, especially the one 440 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: who's not killed. UM. All right, well that's guns. I 441 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: hope you guys made it through this one. Yeah, well, 442 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I think we should do one on the n r A, 443 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: just to learn a little bit more about that organization 444 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: and round this thing out. Um. Okay, we'll look for 445 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: that one in the future, I guess. Huh Uh. If 446 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: you want to learn more about guns, type that word 447 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: into the search part how stuff works dot Com and 448 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: will bring up a bunch of stuff, uh, including how 449 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: guns work. Uh. If I already said that whole spiel 450 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: about the search par didn't I, it means, then, friends, 451 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: it's now time for message break uh and Chuck take 452 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: us out with some listener mail. Huh. Yeah, um, this 453 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: is another Peace Corps email, and we we get a 454 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: lot of these because we find that a we did 455 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: one on the Peace Corps, but before that even we 456 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: got a lot from Peace Corps folks because I think 457 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: they're world travelers who are curious and like to listen 458 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: to things on the Chicken bus. You know what I'm saying. 459 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: I wanted to send you guys an email since I 460 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: finally finished the long List of Stuff You Shnow podcast 461 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: that I downloaded to pass the time while riding on 462 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: Chicken busses throughout Ecuador, as a current Peace Corps volunteer 463 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: in a gold producing region of your the world and 464 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: a former outfitter in Yellowstone National Park. I really enjoyed 465 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: the podcast on Peace Corps coffee, gold, Lison Geyser's and 466 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: Thoroughbread's what I know about these topics. You guys are 467 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: pretty much spot on, uh And I'm also a bit 468 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: of a plant nerd, so I really enjoyed the Randy 469 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: Moss joke on a Loss episode that that was a 470 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: good one, well played. What I was really emailing about 471 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: was see if you guys give a shout out to 472 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: my long time friend Katherine Lifelong. Even she and I 473 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: grew up in South Dakota together and have been friends 474 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: since kindergarten. Even though we went to colleges across the 475 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: country from each other, we managed to remain close friends 476 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. Unfortunately, due to being in the 477 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: Peace Corps, was unable to make it back for her 478 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: wedding and miss the opportunity to be her maid of honor. 479 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: Although she doesn't have any hard feelings, I still haven't 480 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: made that one up to her and she would love 481 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: it if you guys gave her a shout She turned 482 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: me onto the podcast in fact and saying she enjoys 483 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: listening to it on our own way to work. I 484 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 1: have been hooked on it ever since. So thank you guys, 485 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: Chuck and Josh and Jerry for providing Katherine and I 486 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: with another link in our friendship. Um, not to mention 487 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: the fact that you provide me with weekly trivia effects 488 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: that have plan on using the twenty something bar scene 489 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: when I moved back to the States. So that is 490 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: from Whitney and hello Catherine, And that's nice that you 491 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: gave Whitney a break for not being your maid of honor. Yeah, 492 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: she's in the Peace Corps after all. Yeah, it's much better, 493 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: bigger than your little wedding. Geez, the Peace Corps just 494 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: bigger than anybody's wedding. I'm sure Catherine would disagree with you, 495 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: but um, that was very nice. 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