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Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Ready for a break?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Were with Mbar Garcia, Votch Lombardi and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, March twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, Season

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Speaker 6: twenty two, episode number three. Welcome to the latest edition

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Speaker 6: of The Break, live from the SWBC Mortgage studios. At

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Speaker 2: I just realized I've.

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Speaker 6: Been saying twenty twenty five all year, and y'all none

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Speaker 6: of y'all have helped me out and said, Derek, you

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Speaker 6: need to update your year.

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Speaker 5: It's not my place to correct it.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is.

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Speaker 5: You in charge.

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Speaker 2: You correct me on everything else.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's different. That's when we in courtant we debating

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Speaker 7: this stuff. You know what I'm saying, I need.

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Speaker 2: To update that.

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Speaker 6: I can't believe I've been. It's March twenty fifth, and

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Speaker 6: I'm still saying twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Whatever you wanted to be man to show world.

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Speaker 6: Out, I wish it was all right. We got a

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Speaker 6: lot we're going to talk about today. We're going to

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Speaker 6: talk about the wide receiver position. There was some interesting

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Speaker 6: developments in the world of the NFL when it comes

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Speaker 6: to wide receivers. We'll talk about Jackson Smith and Jig

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Speaker 6: but in his new deal and maybe what that means

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Speaker 6: for the Dallas Cowboys and their negotiations with George Pickens.

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Speaker 6: We'll also talk a little bit about free agency. In

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Speaker 6: the second segment, I have some names of some guys

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Speaker 6: that are still out there, still available, a lot of

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Speaker 6: veteran guys, guys.

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Speaker 2: That are a little older, a little more tenured.

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Speaker 6: And we're going to go through that list and see

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Speaker 6: if any of those names get you guys excited about

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Speaker 6: the possibility of the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: May be doing a deal with them.

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Speaker 6: And in our final segmented huh.

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Speaker 2: About those guys. There may be some names to get

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Speaker 2: somebody excited. Yeah, you can, you can put together kool

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Speaker 2: little I got some name for you.

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Speaker 6: Will see if they make I'm guessing I'm gonna be like, nah,

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Speaker 6: we're good, but y'all, y'all might be excited.

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Speaker 8: Sure, I'm guessing it would be names. I wouldn't really

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Speaker 8: know much about some.

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Speaker 2: Of these names.

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Speaker 6: Actually, some of these names are very well known, are Yeah,

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Speaker 6: they're just older guys that you know. It's one of

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Speaker 6: those things where do you want to guy? It might

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Speaker 6: break down like midway through the season, like that's that's

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Speaker 6: what you're dealing with this.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we've gone a feel of those Yeah, we've

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Speaker 9: done that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, and then the final segment we'll get

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Speaker 6: to a little yetty time what we're doing for ye.

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Speaker 5: Any time.

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Speaker 8: I might take you back to court. We might do

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Speaker 8: that unless the right idea comes to me before from now.

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Speaker 6: And then you have somebody in the chat give her

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Speaker 6: an idea, give an idea for something we can do.

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Speaker 7: In the In the final segment, we're douse. I love

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Speaker 7: yety time. I do love yety time. And people hate

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Speaker 7: to hear me talk so long in a row. So

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Speaker 7: this is an opportunity for ambarishince. I love giving ambar shince.

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Speaker 7: I like to see it back in I'm battered. I

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Speaker 5: So you know what, I'm saying that.

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Speaker 2: I was just waiting. I want to see if I'm

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Speaker 2: just starting.

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Speaker 10: To get favor if we go back to court to

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Speaker 10: get There's no such thing.

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Speaker 8: N last night, I'm trying to get into this thing

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Speaker 8: let it be positive, Let it be So you were

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Speaker 8: really testing me right there, and I was just remembering

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Speaker 8: what I can't break something that happened last night?

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Speaker 7: You know bad you get your little buzzer sound to

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Speaker 7: figuret it because as soon as she say something.

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Speaker 6: Is there ore there consequences when it's negative? Like do

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Speaker 6: we have a jar where you have to some money

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Speaker 6: in it?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What what's the.

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Speaker 9: No consequences?

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Speaker 8: Just you try because it's just what I want to

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Speaker 8: say to the world out there. You know you what

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Speaker 8: you put into the world is what you are tried

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Speaker 8: back to you. So I want to be more you know,

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Speaker 8: mindful and positive of what I how I handle other

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Speaker 5: Check their cands you just threw away.

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Speaker 10: We'll go back to life.

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Speaker 2: We thought it ambar. I thought it was caffeine.

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Speaker 7: Boy.

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Speaker 5: Not sure if that's ten people don't pay us. We

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Speaker 5: get paid by the little people.

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Speaker 8: I might break that because he's already testing me. That's

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Speaker 8: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 10: You know, but.

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Speaker 5: Rifle coffee got your screen?

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk George Pickens. Let's talk about the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 6: Jackson Smith and Jig But with the Seattle Seahawks got

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Speaker 6: a four year, one hundred and sixty eight point six

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Speaker 6: I'll be happy with the point six. But he got

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Speaker 6: one sixty eight point six million dollars UH forty two

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Speaker 6: point one five per year for the four years. That's

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Speaker 6: two million more than what previously was the highest paid

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Speaker 6: The question, I think from the standpoint of the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: is how much, if at all, does this affect the

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Speaker 10: I think it does. Whenever the market goes up and

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Speaker 10: you've got a player of Pickens's caliber, his market's going

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Speaker 10: to go up to I think the question that you

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Speaker 10: ask yourselves is is he worth forty three million dollars?

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Speaker 10: I think that there's still probably too many question marks

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Speaker 10: around the sense of like, Okay, he had this incredible

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Speaker 10: season last year, can you do it again? And can

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Speaker 10: he do it here in and you're out of consistently

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Speaker 10: be the top receiver, one of the top receivers in

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Speaker 10: the league. I think he can, But are you comfortable

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Speaker 10: if I'm George Pickens right now, I'm I'm good with

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Speaker 10: waiting because if he plays on the.

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Speaker 2: Tag deals still coming up here, deal as well.

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Speaker 10: If he gets it and there's sorry you did it

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Speaker 10: not me, there's so that's gonna be one. But two.

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Speaker 10: If he plays on the on the on the franchise

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Speaker 10: tag this year and does it again, who's to say

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Speaker 10: he's not worth more and in contention for more, whether

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Speaker 10: it's here or elsewhere. I don't think at this posit,

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Speaker 10: at this point in time, you get forty George Pickens

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Speaker 10: forty two million dollars, I don't think so You've got

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Speaker 10: one way too many needs on your roster too. You've

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Speaker 10: already got so much of your salary cap to voted

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Speaker 10: to the offense that the twenty eight million dollar number

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Speaker 10: that you're at right now is what you need to

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Speaker 10: be at to keep George Pickens around and keep him

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Speaker 10: in an impact. Does that change much next year would

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Speaker 10: be the question. If he has another year like he

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Speaker 10: you know, there might be some benefit to seeing what

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Speaker 10: he could be worth if he has another year like that,

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Speaker 10: getting some draft capital in return, and also saving some

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Speaker 10: money against your books.

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Speaker 7: I don't think this changes anything. I think based on

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Speaker 7: everything that we've heard, and it might be unfair to Pickings,

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Speaker 7: but just you know, based on what we've heard. I

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Speaker 7: can talk to some of my friends from around the league.

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Speaker 7: You know, I got friends that you know, Brian Broke,

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Speaker 7: he got friends, right, I say, Brian, what these people

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Speaker 7: think Tommy got friends. I don't think it's about Piggins's

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Speaker 7: talent at all. I think everybody look at Pickens and

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Speaker 7: they see that he's clearly talented. But I think a

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Speaker 7: big part about this is what a team is willing

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Speaker 7: to pay. I think the Cowboys look at Pickens and

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Speaker 7: his character stuff differently than the other teams, like we're

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Speaker 7: closer to him, so they'll go, all right, you lay

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Speaker 5: Cool. I can dig that.

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Speaker 7: I think other teams look at the character stuff and

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Speaker 7: they factor that into what we're willing to pay them

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Speaker 7: or what we're willing to trade them. You know, if

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Speaker 7: that conversation came up, I don't think it's about talent

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Speaker 7: Pickens ain't doing James Pierce stuff. He's not doing DK

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Speaker 7: Metcalf stuff, a bunch of fans in the stands, nothing

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Speaker 7: like that. This is just I'm laid for a meeting

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Speaker 7: here or there. But I think his value is more

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Speaker 7: I think if the Cowboys have a decent feel for that,

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Speaker 7: if another team would give Pickings forty million dollars, I

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Speaker 7: think it would behoove the Cowboys to see what pick

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Speaker 7: they're willing to give up. If you're gonna do that,

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Speaker 7: because if you franchise tag them, hey, let's we have

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Speaker 7: the rights to him.

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Speaker 5: If you're if you're willing to pay forty.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure the Cowboys aren't, So let's start talking picks

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Speaker 7: right now. I think this number that he's at this

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Speaker 7: twenty eight or so million dollars, I think it's going

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Speaker 7: to be right around there.

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Speaker 2: Because I think franchise number.

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Speaker 5: You're right.

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Speaker 7: I think that's what his value is right now. Nothing

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Speaker 7: to do with his talent. He's incredible. He's probably TIPE

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Speaker 7: five talent wise, but the league vision of what he

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Speaker 7: is is probably different than what the Cowboys see from

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Speaker 7: And I think it'll benefit the Cowboys to be like, hey,

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Speaker 7: we got this for you. We'll give you thirty right

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Speaker 7: now if you take it. If Mulla getting them waited

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Speaker 7: around a little bit, that number could be lower later.

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Speaker 7: So this is very different than some other player getting theres.

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Speaker 10: If it's around that twenty eight million dollar number, get

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Speaker 10: it done. I think that. I think you hit the

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Speaker 10: nail on the head. They're watched that that's that's a

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Speaker 10: great number for if you can get him long term,

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Speaker 10: I'd be all for that.

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Speaker 4: See.

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Speaker 8: I don't know why people keep some people keep bringing

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Speaker 8: the character thing as far as like an argument or

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Speaker 8: an excuse to all of this when you talk about contract,

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Speaker 8: because he's time. He granted it's only it was only

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Speaker 8: a year so far. But to what I know, what

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Speaker 8: I've seen, he hasn't done anything. He's been lovely he

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Speaker 8: as a person, a teammate, just being around. Yes, he's

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Speaker 9: So it's a tough the to make there.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what's going to happen, but I could

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Speaker 10: That's it to really quick go back to the character.

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Speaker 6: If I don't know, I can't say for a fact

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Speaker 6: What I do think is different here in Dallas is

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Speaker 2: I think that's one thing.

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Speaker 6: That I that I've at least heard about Shady is

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Speaker 2: To the bitch celebrating with with CD and pickings.

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Speaker 6: It's shoddy, right, So I think, again, you can be

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Speaker 8: To my knowledge, it happened a couple like a couple

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Speaker 10: For I'm not trying to say that there's been anything

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Speaker 10: there's been accountability. You saw it in Vegas, and I'm

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Speaker 10: sure there have been plenty of other instances. I think

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Speaker 10: in Ceedee Lamb. The two of those being as close

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Speaker 2: So here's a question for you guys.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that, or what do you read into

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Speaker 6: If a team were to make him an offer, Cowboys

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Speaker 6: get two first round picks. Now, the interesting thing about

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Speaker 6: that is in some of those instances, it doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 6: say they start that negotiation or negotiator, they at least

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Speaker 2: We'd really like to do a deal. Will we pay

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Speaker 2: you forty And.

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Speaker 6: Then the Cowboys kind of get in the mixed Cowboys like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: we ain't gonna pay forty. And then the other team says,

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Speaker 6: you know, we'd like to trade for them, but we're

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Speaker 6: not going to do this deal at two first round picks.

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Speaker 6: What if we give you a first and a third.

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Speaker 6: So there is a way to negotiate these things.

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Speaker 2: Could be happening.

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Speaker 6: My question for you guys is do you do you

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Speaker 6: reports out there suggesting that there are teams nosing around.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, they could be, it's just not public.

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Speaker 6: But does that say anything to you maybe about where

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Speaker 6: the market is in relation to George Pickens.

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Speaker 7: Right, I just think that's just his market right now.

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Speaker 7: And we can disagree a we want. We can love

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Speaker 7: GP and like boy he worth a one boy, he

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Speaker 7: should be worth two ones, But if another team won't

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Speaker 7: even give you a second, then his market is less

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Speaker 7: cowboy people sitting back watching all this unfold, we should

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Speaker 7: be celebrated. Hey hate GP, Hey buffalo, Go call Tomlin

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Speaker 7: and see what he thinks about Pickings and all the

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Speaker 7: deep breaths that he has to take, because the cowboys

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Speaker 7: don't have those same issues, you know that kind of way.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to lose Pickings at all. I think

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Speaker 7: Pickings should be here. Let him be a long term,

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Speaker 7: a long term part.

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Speaker 9: Hey.

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Speaker 7: Look, even if it's not long term, even if it's

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Speaker 7: just a three year thing for Dax contract, right, whatever

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Speaker 7: it is, I want him a part of the next

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Speaker 7: few years of whatever happens here. And if another team doesn't,

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Speaker 7: doesn't bite on that, or they show interest in that level,

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Speaker 7: then not only is that beneficial that we get to

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Speaker 7: keep George Pickens, but it helps the Cowboys and that

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Speaker 7: they get him cheaper.

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Speaker 10: I'm with you, and I hope this is clear from

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Speaker 10: this segment. I love George Pickens.

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Speaker 8: Yeah like.

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Speaker 10: That I should not.

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Speaker 2: That positivity is very valuable. There you go.

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Speaker 10: I change my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Love this.

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Speaker 10: My pickings is George Pickens is fantastic. He's been excellent

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Speaker 10: with the media, he's great to talk to, and he's

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Speaker 10: was giving you the scope of what other people around

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Speaker 10: lack of, Hey, this team is talked to George Pickens

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Speaker 10: good for Dallas because if that's his market, because if

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Speaker 10: teams do have questions about the okay, can he do

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Speaker 10: in our building, then that ultimately benefits Dallas. If his

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Speaker 10: I think that would be fantastic for for the Cowboys

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Speaker 10: to pair to alpha receivers like Pickens and CD Lamb

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Speaker 2: Let's take our final break. I'm sorry, first break.

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Speaker 6: When we come back, ask some more questions you were ready, guys,

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Speaker 6: and I'll ask some more questions for you guys on

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Speaker 2: I actually want to look at this and I would

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Speaker 2: love for you guys to.

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Speaker 6: Tell me if you had to put him in, you know,

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Speaker 6: NFL when you compare him to other receivers, what would

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Speaker 2: Is he a top five guys? He a top three guy?

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Speaker 6: Just from the standpoint of this production, I want to

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Speaker 6: All right, Let's let's talk about the wide receiver position

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Speaker 6: from the standpoint of if you had to if you

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Speaker 6: had to rank the wide receivers in the NFL, and

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Speaker 6: you had to figure out where George Pickens falls in

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Speaker 6: that ranking, tell me what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Is he a top three guy? Is he a top

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Speaker 2: five guys, top ten guy.

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Speaker 6: Where would you put him relative to the rest of

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Speaker 6: the best receivers in the NFL?

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Speaker 5: Tommy, why do you think I'm a Ross Saint Brown's

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Speaker 5: better than GP?

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Speaker 3: Wow? You just.

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Speaker 10: Show I think I'm a Ross Saint Brown. Gives you

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Speaker 10: a guy that And I'm not saying George Pickens can't

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Speaker 10: do this. But he's got four straight thousand yard receiving seasons.

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Speaker 10: He's had double digit touchdowns each of the last three years.

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Speaker 10: He's been wildly consistent for Detroit, and is I think

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Speaker 10: has really been one of the biggest reasons why that

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Speaker 10: offense has been so successful, along with the freak shows.

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Speaker 10: They have it running back, but I think his route

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Speaker 10: running is spectacular. He plays so much bigger than he

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Speaker 10: is size wise. He's an undersized kind of a slot guy,

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Speaker 10: but he can move all over the field, makes contested

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Speaker 10: catches super tough. You remember against Dallas, we were wondering

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Speaker 10: if he was even gonna play, and it looked very

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Speaker 10: bad early in the week. He comes out and has

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Speaker 10: probably one hundred yards and two touchdowns on this defense.

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Speaker 10: But I think he's been the model of consistency for Detroit.

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Speaker 10: Doesn't make a lot of mistakes, and I just I

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Speaker 10: just love Alan Ross Brown as a as a player.

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Speaker 10: I think he would be above George Pickens for me.

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Speaker 10: And that's not it's not a slight against George. There

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Speaker 10: can be multiple really good guys.

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Speaker 7: But but Tommy, when we talking about the best of

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Speaker 7: the best receivers, you start throwing out, you know, intangibles.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, hey, man, he work hard. Man,

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Speaker 7: he don't mispractice. He boy, he a leader in that

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Speaker 7: locker room. You know what I'm saying. And I think

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Speaker 7: Derek's point was like Pickens induces fear. You know what

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, Pickens is much more feared around. Like we're

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Speaker 7: a team that got CD Lamb on the other side,

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Speaker 7: and teams are like, hey, we need to focus. We'll

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Speaker 7: take our chances.

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Speaker 5: We'll take our chances with our five ass CD Lamb.

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Speaker 7: And I think Derek was saying, when you know, when

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Speaker 7: you see a team focus on on one place, what

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Speaker 7: did you say?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I was.

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Speaker 6: I was saying, sometimes it depends on how you define best.

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Speaker 6: Right For me, I look at it, I say, who

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Speaker 6: is the most feared by a opponents? And I think

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Speaker 6: it was clear as this season war On team said

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Speaker 6: we cannot afford to leave Pickens on an island with

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Speaker 6: one guy because he's going to destroy us, and they

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Speaker 6: were willing in that those instances to then say, Okay,

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Speaker 6: in some of these instances, we're comfortable with the idea

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Speaker 6: of we'll we'll take our chances with CD. And again,

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Speaker 6: I still think CD is the better receiver, and I

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Speaker 6: would even I will say this from what you're saying, Tommy,

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Speaker 6: I actually think aman Rai is more skilled than Pickens.

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Speaker 6: So if we're talking about just skill level route running

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Speaker 6: those kinds of things, I think he's more skilled. I

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Speaker 6: think there are probably one, two, three receivers in the

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Speaker 6: NFL that are more feared than George Pickens, Pooka, nkur

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Speaker 6: Jack and Smith and Jigba and Jamar Chick. Well it

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Speaker 6: should be four. I'm sorry, justin Jefferson as well. Those

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Speaker 6: four guys are probably more feared than George Pickens.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 7: But I'm guessing what Tommy is saying that Saint Brown

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Speaker 7: is like, is like he's so great at what he

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Speaker 7: does is the route running, all this kind of stuff

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Speaker 7: right place, right time, like any quarterback can can make

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Speaker 7: Saint Brown play well, GP kind of needs a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But is that true? Have we have We haven't, But

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Speaker 2: have we have? We seen that? Though Tommy said, what

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Speaker 2: you say.

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Speaker 10: Sure, I mean yeah, not necessarily. I don't think you

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Speaker 10: talk to him. George Pickens's quarterback situation in Pittsburgh was awful,

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Speaker 10: So I don't know if any of these guys could

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Speaker 10: have succeeded, right, I mean, look at what Minnesota like.

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Speaker 10: Justin Jefferson is a great example. Last Minnesota had, they

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Speaker 10: might as well have had me playing quarterback, and we

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Speaker 10: would have had a better shot to get the ball

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Speaker 10: to Justin Jefferson. And so that that to me, says,

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Speaker 10: if your quarterback situation is that bad, it really doesn't

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Speaker 10: matter how good of a receiver you are. Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 10: this one makes it work somewhat because he's what he is.

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Speaker 10: But George Pickens still almost put up thousand yard seasons

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Speaker 10: and led Pittsburgh in receiving, so it's not.

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Speaker 2: Like he had bad years per se.

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Speaker 10: But he wasn't putting up the am and rock thousand

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Speaker 10: yards ten touchdowns because nobody can get him the ball.

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Speaker 10: So I kind of hesitate with that argument. A little bit.

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Speaker 10: Now again, you guys are really making me out to

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Speaker 10: hate George Pickens. But I think he's a comfortable top

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Speaker 10: ten receiver if he plays the way that he played

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Speaker 10: last year, and from a physical standpoint, yes, he can

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Speaker 10: do some things that Aman Ross Saint Brown can't or

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Speaker 10: JSN can't just off of size alone, because he's a

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Speaker 10: bigger receiver who's athletic, is all get out and can

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Speaker 10: run with everybody. But if we're talking about overall wide

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Speaker 10: receiver position, if we are starting over all three two teams,

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Speaker 10: you put me in charge of a team, say we've

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Speaker 10: got a good quarterback, no name on it, but just

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Speaker 10: a good quarterback. Who do you want at receiver? Right now?

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Speaker 10: Pickens would be the eighth pick for me from So we.

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Speaker 6: Got those those those four I mentioned, I would assume

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Speaker 6: CD is in there at five maybe, and then I

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Speaker 6: would assume you got a'man Rod six, I've got who's

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Speaker 6: the other.

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Speaker 10: One, I've got Jamar Chase, Yeah, Justin Jefferson, Jackson Smith

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Speaker 10: and Jigba Ceedee Lamb, i'm an Ross Saint Brown, Pooka

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Speaker 10: Nakua Nico Collins.

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Speaker 2: And then George was that an order?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You got Nico George.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 10: That's just my person.

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Speaker 2: By the way, First of all, order I would put

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Speaker 2: Pooka higher than that. Wat you what I know. But

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying you watch p play. If you watch Pooka.

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Speaker 6: Play, there is really nothing that guy can't do. No,

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Speaker 6: and their situation with teams are like we want to

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Speaker 6: take him away and it's like.

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Speaker 2: Nope, he caught the ball. He still made a play.

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Speaker 6: That dude is one of the most unstoppable forces at

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Speaker 6: the wide receiver position in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: To me, he is easily top three in my opinion.

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Speaker 10: He's fantastic, and I wouldn't I wouldn't hate moving him

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Speaker 10: up there, but you would. I would be hard pressed

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Speaker 10: to pick another receiver out in the top three aside

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Speaker 10: from Chase, Jefferson and Smith and Jig. But that's not

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Speaker 10: taking away from Puka, because you're right, he's a player,

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Speaker 10: but those three are I think in the upper echelona

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Speaker 10: receiver play in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: I would love to see Pooka have to deal with

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Speaker 6: not having his quarterback and see what that looks like

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Speaker 6: because Jamar Chase, we've seen that and it ain't always great.

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Speaker 2: When Jamar doesn't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, as you were just saying, there,

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Speaker 6: put any receiver fill in the blank. You put receiver

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Speaker 6: with with bad quarterback play, most of them don't perform.

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Speaker 6: Gary Wilson's a great example. Gary Wilson's a really good receiver.

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Speaker 6: The ain't ever had a quarterback. I would love to

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Speaker 6: see him with a Dak Prescott or with a you know,

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Speaker 6: you name the quarterback. I guarantee he will do what

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Speaker 6: George Pickens did. He will have one of those year

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Speaker 6: where everyone's like, Yep, he's really as good as we

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Speaker 6: thought he was. He just doesn't have the quarterback. I

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Speaker 6: would love to see Jamar. I mean, I would love

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Speaker 6: to see what happens with Pooka in that situation because

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Speaker 6: I have a feeling Pooka would be closer to h

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Speaker 6: and this for us for us that have been around

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Speaker 6: watching NFL for a little longer, and Andre Johnson, because

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Speaker 6: when Andre Johnson played in Houston many years, he didn't

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Speaker 6: have a quarterback. Man I dud it was putting one

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Speaker 6: thousand yards every year. It didn't matter who was that quarterback.

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Speaker 6: He was puting one thousand yards. And I think Pooka

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Speaker 6: is that kind of player?

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Speaker 5: Do you do you both?

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Speaker 3: Y'all?

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Speaker 7: Do y'all value the the guys that play with bad

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Speaker 7: quarterback player? Maybe like a weird system, right, So, like

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Speaker 7: Garrett Wilson, I'm thinking about guys like neighbors, Like like

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Speaker 7: those guys right, like they perform regardless of what's around him,

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Speaker 7: unlike Saint Brown, who's kind of been I have a

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Speaker 7: good offensive system, good supporting cast and my quarterback and

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Speaker 7: give me the football, right, Like.

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Speaker 5: How do you value those guys that have least favorable situation?

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Speaker 10: Well, that's why I kind of I think Nico Collins

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Speaker 10: is maybe a guy we don't talk about enough when

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Speaker 10: he's healthy. And that's the big issue for him is

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Speaker 10: he hasn't been healthy. So if you told me I'm

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Speaker 10: putting pickings above Nico Collins, I'm not going to argue

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Speaker 10: too much. I mean, I think he in the long term.

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Speaker 10: Is he going to be a better player than Nico

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Speaker 10: Collins was in the NFL if he keeps playing like

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Speaker 10: he has.

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Speaker 2: No question he goes good though, Like to be clear.

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Speaker 10: He's CJ. Stroud was throwing to everybody but his team

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Speaker 10: this past year, so and he was still.

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Speaker 2: Catching I'm sorry, we're talking about receiving.

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry. I know, man. Let's see if they get

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Speaker 10: you an offensive line, they give you some more time.

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Speaker 10: I think Nico Collins, with the quarterback situation that is

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Speaker 10: that they've been dealt with, has still played at an

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Speaker 10: extremely high level and has been super value for valuable

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Speaker 10: for Houston offense that really doesn't even need to do

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Speaker 10: that much because their defense is so good. So that's

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Speaker 10: why I put him there. But if that's interchangeable for me,

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Speaker 10: if you put Pickings above Nikir Collins, I'm not pushing

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Speaker 10: back on you, but I think that they're kind of

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Speaker 10: in that that's around where I would have Pickens compared

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Speaker 10: to the rest of the NFL. Pickens is a good player.

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Speaker 10: All these guys are elite, elite players, best of the

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Speaker 10: best in the world.

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Speaker 5: You love Piggas. You ain't gotta keep saying that. We

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Speaker 5: know you love well.

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Speaker 10: I can already see the trade him.

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Speaker 16: George n be like, but he said it well.

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Speaker 8: He had a vision for it, and you know he's

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Speaker 8: looking for ways to improve this team financially and for

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Speaker 8: the future. You're building long term. So thank you, Tommy

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Speaker 8: for your outside of the box thinking.

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Speaker 10: In your civity. Hey, I just want to make sure

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Speaker 10: we cover all of our bases.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 7: But I will say the riffan or what I will

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Speaker 7: say about Pickings is I always felt like he was

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Speaker 7: a good player. I think anybody that can get a

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Speaker 7: thousand yards with Russell Wilson, Kinny Pickett and those characters

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Speaker 7: that you know, shout out to you. But there were

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Speaker 7: times in cowboy Land, and it could be because I

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Speaker 7: might have a bias because I'm in cowboy Land, to

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Speaker 7: where every time the Cowboys needed some play, they needed

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Speaker 7: something to happen, it was GP making the most ridiculous

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Speaker 7: catch on some sideline over to people jumping over characters

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Speaker 7: in clutch moments, versus good teams versus good players. So

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Speaker 7: you would love to see Piggings do it more than

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Speaker 7: more than one year at a high, high level like

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Speaker 7: he did last year. But man, I probably got you know,

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Speaker 7: Pickings top seven, top six or so looking like that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for me, I probably got him there around five

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Speaker 6: to six. He and CD are kind of right there

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Speaker 6: together at about five six.

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Speaker 2: It's where i'd put him.

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Speaker 10: Y'all are heelling him?

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Speaker 12: Man?

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Speaker 10: We got him.

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Speaker 2: Three spots off about three spots.

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Speaker 6: That's not a huge difference, but yeah, it is something

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Speaker 6: like I wouldn't like I said, I wouldn't put Nico

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Speaker 6: Manra above him. I just think I think he is,

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Speaker 6: think he could make an argument against anybody else in

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Speaker 6: the National Football League that he is. He is as good,

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Speaker 6: if not better, the numbers he put up last year.

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Speaker 6: And that's also the thing. Putting up those kind of

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Speaker 6: numbers when you have somebody like CD on the other side,

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Speaker 6: he is, tells you just how good he is.

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Speaker 10: Think about how much he did when Ced was out and.

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Speaker 2: He right the top option absolutely, how much it comes

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Speaker 6: So imagine he had a full season that like you're

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Speaker 6: you're talking about some really just crazy gaudy numbers, right.

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Speaker 2: So I think he's I just think he is.

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Speaker 6: I don't even think he's getting as much respect as

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Speaker 2: We'renna talk about this real quick.

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Speaker 6: But this week I've seen a couple of different mock

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Speaker 6: drafts that have mocked Carneal Tate wide receiver from Ohio

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Speaker 6: State to the Dallas Cowboys, and it brought.

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Speaker 2: Up an interesting topic. We've talked, We've heard Jerry talk

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Speaker 6: He's even talked about it some this year where you know,

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Speaker 6: he mentions the Ceedee Lamb Draft and just the fact

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Speaker 6: that was a game changing type player rather than reaching

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Speaker 6: for a position that you might think conventionally they would

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Speaker 6: need they would have needed. My question for you guys is,

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Speaker 6: let's assume that all the defenders that we have talked

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Speaker 6: about being impossible mocks to the Cowboys are all gone.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys are wiped out defensively. Would you consider if Carneal

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Speaker 6: Tate is still on the board, would you think that

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Speaker 6: would be a good move for the Dallas Cowboys to

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Speaker 6: draft a wide receiver in this.

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Speaker 10: Draft where you say about a loving personnel.

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Speaker 5: Watch, why are you looking at me like that?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 7: I'm looking me because I've been fighting this. This tame

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Speaker 7: it up for I appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Brother.

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Speaker 7: Listen, man, people hate this exercise. People just assume that

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Speaker 7: a top tier player on defense is going to be

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Speaker 7: there for you. Look, we didn't lose enough games. It

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Speaker 7: is what it is, and in a perfect world, we

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Speaker 7: would love it if a blue chip defender is there

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Speaker 7: for you. But in your example, if that is not

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Speaker 7: the case, what I would not want to do is

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Speaker 7: to reach for a player that I have graded a

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Speaker 7: second round player. Now, a lot of people think that

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Speaker 7: this ain't of apples, you know, like, this isn't a

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Speaker 7: similar situation whatever. If you go back to that LAMB

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Speaker 7: draft that was the end of the first round grades

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Speaker 7: like Chase Son and back was second round grades. In

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Speaker 7: this particular situation, it would be similar to me. There's

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Speaker 7: not as many second round grades in this year's class,

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Speaker 7: so first or secon round grades. There's not as many

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Speaker 7: first round So if you're there and you're wiped on defense,

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Speaker 7: you're at the end of your first round grades. Just

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Speaker 7: like that year. Also, just like that year, Michael Gallup

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Speaker 7: coming off eleven hundred yards six touchdowns. Cooper's going crazy.

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Speaker 7: So you don't need a wide receiver. And just like

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Speaker 7: that year, we walked into this thing and going, all right,

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Speaker 7: we need some defense. What the business is. But there

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Speaker 7: are some blinking lights that you just cannot avoid. I

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Speaker 7: think if you're in a situation, it ain't gotta be

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Speaker 7: just cardinell tape. It could be Jeremi love to run

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Speaker 7: back from not to Dame. It could be any one

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Speaker 7: of those receivers. If you love those guys, eleven personnel,

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Speaker 7: just get to go crazy.

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Speaker 5: It is what it is. You don't want to be

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Speaker 7: Let's take Caylevon Chase Son and now no direspect to

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Speaker 7: Calevon Chase m He's on his fourteen and Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 7: is like a pillar of somebody else's organization that's going

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Speaker 7: to be fantastic for a long time. Take the best player.

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Speaker 7: Don't get tunnel vision. You wanted a wide receiver last year,

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Speaker 7: you didn't get mc millan. But what did the Cowboys do?

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Speaker 7: They fixed it after the draft. I got fake that

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys would fix defense. If you don't get like,

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Speaker 7: if you don't get a linebacker or something, they'll figure

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Speaker 7: out you don't get a pass rush. The Cowboys will

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Speaker 7: eventually figure it out. Man, if the best player is Cartnell,

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Speaker 7: take you just get a whole bunch more of CD

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Speaker 7: Lamb playing slide and you get to play matchup. Cool

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Speaker 7: this world where you kind of gonna double pickings and

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Speaker 7: shift people to Lamb's inside, then find card you get

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Speaker 7: to do stupid stuff over the middle. Then we get

881
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Speaker 7: to run the ball. So yeah, I would take it.

882
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 7: I'm not opposed to taking off.

883
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 8: Well, the thing is like, at that point, looking at

884
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 8: the how big your necessities are on the defensive side

885
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 8: of the ball. And I agree with you if it

886
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 8: lends to that in that scenario, that's a perfect comparison

887
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 8: right there.

888
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: But are you not trading?

889
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 8: Are you really not considering making some kind of trade

890
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 8: to where now you're either giving up that pick or

891
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 8: either for a veteran trade or to even move up

892
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 8: and drop somebody higher at the defense, like on the

893
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 8: defensive side of the ball. Because one thing is like, okay, yeah,

894
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 8: just stay put and maybe this guy falls to you,

895
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 8: You're like, Okay, let's pick whoever's available. But looking at

896
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 8: how big of a need you have on the defense, sure,

897
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 8: I just don't think you can just chill there and

898
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 8: wait for what can Lamb like on your lap?

899
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: At that point there is.

900
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 7: An option that you can take. The Joneses can pick

901
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 7: up the phone first. They hate doing that, but you

902
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 7: could get a trade. But you might get less of

903
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 7: a trade. If teams are calling you and you're in demand,

904
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 7: you could be like, hey man, somebody else offer me

905
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 7: a three, I might need a lay two from it,

906
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 7: and you can haggle a little bit.

907
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: Then maybe that's the case.

908
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 7: I think if you trade back a little bit and

909
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 7: say hey, we'll take any pick, we just don't want

910
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 7: to trade right here, somebody's gonna give you a pick

911
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 7: that's not worth it for losing a player of the

912
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 7: caliber of the guy that you will be losing. That

913
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 7: makes sense, Like kay levon Chase and a third still

914
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 7: ain't better than Ceede Lamb. That makes sense. Hey, look, man,

915
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 7: Greg ellis ain't better than Randy Moss. You know what

916
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like, let's not come up with reasons that

917
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 7: we're not taking top tier players if they're there now,

918
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 7: Cartnell Tait isn't Randy Moss or Cede Lamb. But in

919
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 7: this draft, in the context of this draft and the

920
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 7: second round players behind Tate and Tom, we can talk

921
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 7: about this if you want to. I think Cardnell Tate,

922
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 7: who is a first round great player on my board,

923
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 7: would be much better than the defender you have to

924
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 7: reach to get and take as well.

925
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 10: Well, you don't need to hear it from me, you

926
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 10: can hear it from the head coach. We talked to

927
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 10: Brian Schottenheimer yesterday at the University of Texas's Pro day

928
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 10: and he said, quote, you want to be prepared to

929
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 10: do what we need to do on defense, but certainly

930
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 10: we're not going to pass on a great offensive player

931
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 10: if they're there at one of those spots. So he

932
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 10: feels like they've done enough in free agency and there's

933
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 10: still positions of need and he recognized that. But to

934
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 10: where they can really go and say, hey, we can

935
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 10: pick whoever we feel like it's the best player available

936
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 10: on the board. If Carnell Tate is there, there's a

937
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 10: good chance he's the best player on the board. What

938
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 10: I would wonder is if they get to that point,

939
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 10: and it's Carnell Tate or Francis Malino at the offensive

940
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 10: tackle from Miami, if they would maybe lean offensive line

941
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 10: with those players being similarly greated just because right tackle

942
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 10: left tackle. Tackle in general is more of a question marked,

943
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 10: I think, than a wide receiver. But look, this team

944
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 10: has shown in the past that they're in the business

945
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 10: of drafting the best player available, and if you draft

946
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 10: Cartnell Tate, you are going to have one heck of

947
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 10: a RECEIVERO Cardneal Tay. I don't think is Ceedee Lamb.

948
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 10: I don't think he's that kind of a caliber player

949
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 10: coming out, But if you put him in a room

950
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 10: with Ceede Lamb and George Pickens, it's gonna be tough

951
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 10: for opposing defenses to cover. Now, if you don't get

952
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 10: another defender, it's gonna be very easy for opposing offenses

953
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 10: to score on you again like it was last year.

954
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 10: But I think this team showed last year they went

955
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 10: into the draft, like you mentioned, Hey, tedor Ro maybe

956
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 10: want we love this guy, don't get him, that's fine,

957
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 10: We'll trade third for George Pickens and looking what that does,

958
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 10: so I wouldn't be surprised if they go in the

959
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 10: trademarket after the draft and acquire linebacker, for example. But

960
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 10: because that's a big need, maybe they ain't multiple trades

961
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 10: to address those positions.

962
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 5: Tom.

963
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 7: I was just gonna bring that point up shoutside to you.

964
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 7: There are people online that flussit me when I talk

965
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 7: about drafting an offensive player, and they'll say, well, votch, fine,

966
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 7: let's just ignore the defense and just roll around and

967
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 7: be horrible again. Right, if you're reaching for a second

968
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 7: round graded player on defense anyway, Avionterrell, akeem mesidor cj

969
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 7: adm let's reach and take Dylan Thineman. That one, dude,

970
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 7: ain't stopping you from being traded on defense anyway. It's

971
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 7: the collective of the guys that you got and the

972
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 7: moves that's after the draft you have many more picks.

973
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 7: All that collective of players is not going to stop you,

974
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 7: you know, stop some team from putting six points on you.

975
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 6: So the one thing I will say, though, is if

976
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 6: I have if I'm sitting there at twelve and there

977
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 6: are guys like Carnel Tait that are still available, my

978
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 6: guess is that there are probably only fifteen, sixteen at

979
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 6: most first round grades in this draft yeah, so there's

980
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 6: going to be if you're right at the cusp of

981
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 6: that that cut off, they're gonna be teams I would

982
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 6: guess at eighteen, nineteen, twenty in the first round that

983
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 6: may be willing to say, you know, we really need

984
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 6: one of these first round players, and they may be

985
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 6: willing to trade up for you. So I would actually,

986
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 6: I kind of agree with you, and I would actually

987
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 6: look at it. If I'm in that situation and a

988
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 6: guy like that's available, I would pick up the phone

989
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 6: and find out. Teams I think are wide receiver needy.

990
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 6: I would be like, hey, you're trying to get up

991
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 6: here to get Carnell tap because he probably ain't gonna

992
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 6: lest too much longer.

993
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: What are you willing to give up?

994
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 6: And if I can get some value for that, because

995
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 6: I'm already wiped out of defense, if I can get

996
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 6: some value that and I move back and I get

997
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 6: some one of those other guys I still like on defense,

998
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 6: I just don't think they're number twelve worthy, right, They're

999
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 6: not the twelfth pick worthy. I move back to eighteen,

1000
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 6: I move back to nineteen, I move back to twenty,

1001
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 6: and I pick up a second rounder. I think those

1002
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 6: are the kind of moves I would be looking for

1003
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 6: at that point, as opposed to just saying, let me

1004
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 6: just turn in the card for Tate, because I don't

1005
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 6: think Tate, as you said, I don't think Tate is

1006
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 6: ced Lamb. I think he's a good received, He's gonna

1007
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 6: be a good receiver. I think I don't think he's

1008
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 6: Cede Lamb. He's not an you can't miss. He's not

1009
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 6: a can't miss prospect, nor is he a player that

1010
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 6: you're going to look back and be like, oh my god,

1011
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 6: I can't believe we didn't take him. I think that's

1012
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 6: one of those situations where I would try to see

1013
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 6: if someone else wants him because they have more of

1014
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 6: a needed wide receiver, and I try to leverage that.

1015
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 10: Into more pick and really quickly. I think I think

1016
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 10: there could still be defensive players. And just in my opinion,

1017
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 10: this is just me speaking my board that are going

1018
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 10: to be close enough to where Carnel tit is that

1019
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 10: I don't think he would be reached like Dylan Thineman.

1020
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 10: I don't think that would be a reach. I know

1021
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 10: it's high for you. We talked about it on the

1022
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 10: Draft Show at twelve. I don't think that's to reach

1023
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 10: it all. For me, The thing that can throw a

1024
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 10: wrench in all of this is next Tuesday in Knoxville, Tennessee,

1025
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 10: when Jermald McCoy works out. I know there was the

1026
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 10: video that came out of him yesterday. That's cool and all.

1027
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 10: He looked fine. I want to see him at Pro Day,

1028
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 10: and that's if there are opinions that come out of

1029
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 10: that that say, nineteen months removed from ACL surgery, like, Okay,

1030
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 10: this guy still looks like he can cut and go

1031
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 10: in the same thing. I wonder how much that changes

1032
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 10: things for NFL teams And if they say, okay, he

1033
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 10: based off of film alone in twenty twenty four, if

1034
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 10: he did that again in twenty twenty five, I think

1035
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 10: he's the unquestionable number one corner in this draft. But

1036
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 10: that question mark has been looming for so long. We've

1037
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 10: had so little answers that next week can really change

1038
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 10: a lot of things in the top ten, maybe top twelve,

1039
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 10: and it might change things for Dallas.

1040
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 6: And here's the thing. Every year in the draft, things

1041
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 6: up you're not expecting. There is a real possibility of

1042
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 6: one of these defenders that we all think are top

1043
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 6: notch drops to twelve.

1044
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: It happens. We see it every year.

1045
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 6: Are guys that just don't get taken taken where we

1046
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 6: think they're gonna get taken, or teams covet someone else,

1047
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 6: they cover a quarterback that nobody's really talking about that

1048
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 6: now slips into the top ten.

1049
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 2: Right, It's those things happen.

1050
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 6: So I think that's where I look at this, and

1051
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 6: now I really believe hopefully the Cowboys actually have a

1052
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 6: pick of one of those defenders that they really want,

1053
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 6: that they really cove it at that spot, and then

1054
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 6: see what happens later in the first round.

1055
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 10: Better hope everybody and their mother falls in love with

1056
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 10: Jeremiah Love, Carnel Tate, Jordan Tyson. Yeah, those kinds of players.

1057
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 10: So as many offensive guys that can go the tackles,

1058
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 10: as many of them I can go. So you got

1059
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 10: some defensive guys.

1060
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 6: With every offensive guy taken, we'll be clapping. And that's

1061
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 6: we're watching the draft.

1062
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: All right, that's a wrap. We appreciate you guys. Jonas.

1063
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: We'll be back next week and I know we'll do

1064
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: that yetty time next.

1065
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 5: Give us money to do, yeah.

1066
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 2: And we we do. We do. We do pretty regularly.

1067
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: But we're gonna we're gonna.

1068
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: Boy dares head of people paying like that.

1069
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 6: That's not what I said. But we'll get to them

1070
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 6: next week. We'll get to them next week.

1071
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 2: Until next week.

1072
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1073
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,040
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1074
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1075
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1076
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