Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you.
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Speaker 2: you guys listening to us today because we have a
Speaker 2: lot to talk about with the Devon Archer issue. We first,
Speaker 2: obviously have to deal with the fact that yet again
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's being charged and arraigned on more charges against him.
Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction to that before we
Speaker 2: do a deep dive into the Devon Archer testimony before Congress.
Speaker 3: Well, this week is a huge week in terms of
Speaker 3: developments for the rule of law, developments for Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: developments for Hunter Biden, and developments for Donald Trump. This week, obviously,
Speaker 3: Donald Trump was indicted yet again a third time by
Speaker 3: Special Counsel Jack Smith. It is an indictment that I
Speaker 3: believe is a political indictment. It is the latest man
Speaker 3: festation of the politicization of the Department of Justice, where
Speaker 3: the Democrats every time there are bad developments about Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: about Hunter Biden, they immediately turn around and try to
Speaker 3: overtake the news cycle with yet another attack on Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: And it is doing severe damage to the integrity of
Speaker 3: the Department of Justice.
Speaker 4: And listen.
Speaker 3: Actually, yesterday one of Trump's lawyers outside the courtroom expressed
Speaker 3: it really powerfully the shameless timing of each of these indictments.
Speaker 4: Give a listen.
Speaker 5: The fact that I am standing here for the third
Speaker 5: time in five months is not a coincidence. This is
Speaker 5: the Biden political law fair that we have seen time
Speaker 5: and time again. It is a deflection from everything that
Speaker 5: they have done. And if you don't believe me, look
Speaker 5: at the facts. On March seventeenth, accidentally admits that it
Speaker 5: was his laptop for health. The next day, Dan Alvin
Speaker 5: Bragg indicts President Trump. June, an FBI document is released
Speaker 5: showing that the Ukrainians paid the mind In crime family
Speaker 5: millions and millions of dollars. The next day the mari
Speaker 5: Lago Raider and the Marilago indictment. Last week, Hunter Biden's
Speaker 5: Sweetheart plea deal fell through when the judge realized it
Speaker 5: had blanket immunity. The following day, a superseding indictment against
Speaker 5: Donald Trump. July thirty first, Devin Archer goes to testify
Speaker 5: in front of the House. That was only after they
Speaker 5: failed to put him in jail prior to the fact.
Speaker 5: What happens the next day, the January sixth indictment that.
Speaker 6: We're here for today. This is not a coincidence.
Speaker 7: This is election interference.
Speaker 5: At its finest against the leading candidate right now for
Speaker 5: president for either party.
Speaker 2: You hear that, and this is I'm so glad that
Speaker 2: the Trump team did this to remind people. We actually
Speaker 2: did this on the show Center just a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago. They're not even trying to hide how biased
Speaker 2: they are. It's like, all right, you do something exposing
Speaker 2: the Biden crime family. We're gonna put Donald Trump in
Speaker 2: prison for now, what is it, five hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: six years. I'm not exaggerating it. It's actually like pretty
Speaker 2: close to the number if he's found guilty on everything.
Speaker 1: They're not hiding it at all.
Speaker 4: But you can't understand.
Speaker 3: The objective is not to put Donald Trump in prison
Speaker 3: for a day. The objective Joe Biden's political objective, Merrick
Speaker 3: Garland's political objective Number one. They want Trump to win
Speaker 3: the primary, and they have recognized that every time they
Speaker 3: indict him, his numbers go up in the Republican primary.
Speaker 4: Umber two.
Speaker 3: The reason, one of the key reasons they want them
Speaker 3: to win the primary is they want in September and
Speaker 3: October of next year, right before election day. They want
Speaker 3: ideally multiple criminal trials ongoing. They want Trump being prosecuted.
Speaker 3: They want all of the headlines to be about anything
Speaker 3: other than the disastrous Joe Biden record. They don't want
Speaker 3: to talk about the chaos at our southern border and seven.
Speaker 4: Million illegal immigrants under Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: They don't want to talk about the train wreck that
Speaker 3: is Bidenomics, including seeing the US credit rating downgraded after
Speaker 3: Biden and the Democrats engaged in trillions of dollars of
Speaker 3: a reckless spending spree. They don't want to talk about
Speaker 3: rising crime rates because of their assault on law enforcement
Speaker 3: and police across this country. They don't want to talk
Speaker 3: about the disaster of foreign policy, including the largest land
Speaker 3: war in Europe since World War Two. They don't want
Speaker 3: to talk about the shameful surrender to the Taliban and
Speaker 3: withdraw in Afghanistan. They don't I want to talk about
Speaker 3: how every enemy of America is stronger today and how
Speaker 3: Joe Biden has weakened and undermine our allies across the country.
Speaker 3: None of that do they want the conversation to be about.
Speaker 3: They want the conversation to be about today in the
Speaker 3: criminal trial against Donald Trump. Here's the horrible testimony we heard.
Speaker 3: They believe that's how they win, and that We've talked
Speaker 3: a lot in this podcast about how the far left,
Speaker 3: what they accuse you of, is what they're doing that
Speaker 3: is an assault on democracy because they don't trust the voters.
Speaker 3: They don't want the voters to vote on Biden's record
Speaker 3: because if we vote on Biden's record, Biden loses. Instead,
Speaker 3: they want to use the Department of Justice to.
Speaker 4: Steal the election.
Speaker 3: And let's be clear, they're trying to steal it by
Speaker 3: dominating the headlines, by bringing the full force of the
Speaker 3: federal government to bring case after case after case and listen,
Speaker 3: we talked about on Wednesdays podcast how the objective of
Speaker 3: this latest indictment isn't to send Trump to jail. It
Speaker 3: is rather to bring this case before a DC jury
Speaker 3: that is overwhelmingly Democrat, that overwhelmingly despises Donald Trump. They
Speaker 3: got lucky, and they got one of the most left wing,
Speaker 3: if not the most left wing, federal district judge in
Speaker 3: d C who presumably is going to rule against Trump
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. There's a very real
Speaker 3: possibility they get a guilty verdict from a DC jury,
Speaker 3: and in their perfect world, they'd like that guilty verdict
Speaker 3: maybe about October twentieth of next year. Would would be
Speaker 3: the Democrat dreams scenario. Now they know full well if
Speaker 3: there is a guilty verdict, when that goes up on
Speaker 3: appeal and when it gets up to the Supreme Court,
Speaker 3: it is overwhelmingly likely to be thrown out. That this
Speaker 3: indictment is an indictment for challenging the results of an election,
Speaker 3: which you're entitled to do, which Democrats do after election
Speaker 3: after election after election. It's an indictment for engaging in
Speaker 3: free speech and Donald Trump's standing up and expressing his
Speaker 3: views about voter fraud. It's an indictment saying it is
Speaker 3: criminal that he did not believe some of the advice
Speaker 3: he was given. You read the indictment and it's really laughable.
Speaker 3: It says, well, Trump knew his claims were false, because
Speaker 3: so and so told them they were false. Now, mind you,
Speaker 3: he had other people telling him they were true. And
Speaker 3: according to the Biden Department of Justice, if you pick
Speaker 3: the wrong person to listen to, that is now suddenly
Speaker 3: a criminal offense. This is election interference.
Speaker 4: It is also.
Speaker 3: Ongoing news management.
Speaker 4: And so we talked about.
Speaker 3: In Wednesday's pod how you and I sat down Tuesday
Speaker 3: afternoon to record Wednesday's pod and the entire topic was
Speaker 3: going to be about Devon Archer, that it was major
Speaker 3: news breaking, and as we were sitting down we were
Speaker 3: about to record it, we both got over our phones.
Speaker 3: Trump's notification I'm going to be indicted at five pm
Speaker 3: to day and we're like, oh, never mind. And not
Speaker 3: only was it successful in clearing Devon Archer off of
Speaker 3: the six o'clock news on every station, which it probably
Speaker 3: would have done anyway, but it even cleared it off
Speaker 3: of this podcast, where we had to devote Wednesday's podcast
Speaker 3: to that indictment, which meant we didn't get to Devon Archer.
Speaker 3: So what we're gonna do now, Listen, there's gonna be
Speaker 3: plenty of time and podcasts to come to analyze the
Speaker 3: legal issues in Trump Indictment number one Trump and Dita
Speaker 3: number two, Trump and Dictment number three Trump Indictment number
Speaker 3: four hundred and thirty six, all of the ones that
Speaker 3: are gonna bring There'll be plenty of time for that
Speaker 3: this part.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of that.
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Speaker 2: Senator let's get into Devin Archer here, and when you
Speaker 2: look at his testimony, give me a couple of your
Speaker 2: big takeaways of what was said that was even shocking
Speaker 2: to you, Just an overall recap of how in saying
Speaker 2: his testimony actually was.
Speaker 3: Well, the biggest and most consequential thing that Devin Archer
Speaker 3: testified to is that Joe Biden has been lying to
Speaker 3: the American people for years, and the Biden White House
Speaker 3: has been lying to the American people for years. That
Speaker 3: when Joe Biden said he had never discussed any of
Speaker 3: Hunter's overseas business deals dealings with Hunter Biden, assuming Devin
Speaker 3: Archer is telling the truth, Joe Biden was flat out
Speaker 3: lying that he had had roughly twenty conversations that Devon
Speaker 3: Archer was aware of. That is bombshell testimony because it
Speaker 3: goes right to the heart of Joe Biden's central defense
Speaker 3: that gosh, this was just Hunter doing his thing, it
Speaker 3: wasn't me, and listen, I think the best way to
Speaker 3: do this is to actually walk systematically through some of
Speaker 3: the testimony. So Devn Archer met Hunter Biden sometime between
Speaker 3: two thousand and two thousand and four, and Devin Archer
Speaker 3: became involved in Bearisma in twenty fourteen when he joined
Speaker 3: the Barisma board and the relationship started when Mikolas Lochski
Speaker 3: and Vadam Posharski were on the target list of potential
Speaker 3: investors in a fund that was known as Rosemont Real
Speaker 3: Estate Acquisition Fund one. He also confirmed that the former
Speaker 3: president of Poland, Alexander Kwasnyuski, joined the Barisma board, and notably,
Speaker 3: this same point was in the FD ten twenty three
Speaker 3: that the FBI prepared, So this is on one level
Speaker 3: of concurrence between those two. Devin Archer described how he
Speaker 3: flew to Warsaw in March of twenty fourteen to meet
Speaker 3: with Kwasnyuski and to discuss Devin Archer's joining Barisma's board,
Speaker 3: and he said that he recalled Hunter Biden, referring to
Speaker 3: President Biden as quote my guy when shown the email
Speaker 3: he received from Hunter Biden on April twelfth. Now, now
Speaker 3: think about this for a second, Ben, have you ever
Speaker 3: referred to your dad as my guy?
Speaker 2: No, not once in my life, certainly not in the
Speaker 2: sense of like, hey, he's my guy that I'm selling
Speaker 2: it a hot to the highest bidder in the world.
Speaker 3: Right, Look, that's not normal. Daddy was Hunter's business. That's
Speaker 3: why he was my guy. I've lived fifty two years.
Speaker 3: I'm quite confident I've never referred to my father as
Speaker 3: my guy because that's not my business. That was Hunter's business.
Speaker 3: Devon Archer discussed Hunter talking about how bringing then Vice
Speaker 3: President Biden. To be clear, Joe Biden was the sitting
Speaker 3: Vice president of the United States at that time, how
Speaker 3: bringing then Vice President Biden to Ukraine would add value
Speaker 3: in the eyes of Barisma, and Devin Archer described that
Speaker 3: as quote pretty obvious if you're you know, you're the
Speaker 3: son of a vice president. Now here's an exchange. The
Speaker 3: Majority Council the Republican Council asked Devon Archer the following.
Speaker 3: You keep saying the brand, but by brand you mean
Speaker 3: the Biden family.
Speaker 4: Correct Archer, Correct, Majority.
Speaker 3: Council, and that brand is what, in your opinion was
Speaker 3: the majority of what the value that was delivered from
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden to Barisma.
Speaker 4: Archer.
Speaker 3: I didn't say majority, but I wouldn't speculate on percentages,
Speaker 3: but I do think that was an element of it.
Speaker 3: Representative Andy Biggs chimes in, when you say Biden family,
Speaker 3: sorry to cut in here, I just want to get
Speaker 3: a clarification. You aren't talking about doctor Jill or anybody else.
Speaker 3: You're talking about Joe Biden. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 4: Archer? Yeah, that's fair to say.
Speaker 3: Listen, I think it's I don't think about it as
Speaker 3: you know Joe directly, but it's fair, that's fair to
Speaker 3: say obviously that brought the most value to the brand.
Speaker 3: So there's a reason that Joe Biden was my guide
Speaker 3: to Hunter, because Joe Biden was the brand that was
Speaker 3: being sold. All right, next exchange, Majority Council. That Hunter
Speaker 3: Biden was adding value that he was adding was in part,
Speaker 3: as you said, his family Archer. Uh huh, Majority Council.
Speaker 3: And so what is your basis for knowing that, Archer?
Speaker 3: My basis for knowing that, Well, I think there was
Speaker 3: there are particular you know, objectives that Barisma was trying
Speaker 3: to accomplish, and a lot of it's about opening doors,
Speaker 3: you know, globally in DC, and I think that you know,
Speaker 3: that was the you know, and then obviously having those
Speaker 3: doors open, you know, sent the right signals you know,
Speaker 3: for Bearisma to you know, carry on its business and
Speaker 3: be successful. All right, here's the next conversation, Archer quote.
Speaker 3: My only thought is that I think Borisma would have
Speaker 3: gone out of business if it didn't have the brand
Speaker 3: attached to it. Now pause to think for a second.
Speaker 3: He just testified to Congress that Barisma the Ukrainian natural
Speaker 3: gas company owned by a corrupt Ukrainian oligark would have
Speaker 3: gone out of business if it didn't have the brand.
Speaker 3: What is the brand Joe Biden attached to it? So
Speaker 3: there's a reason they paid Hunter a million bucks a
Speaker 3: year because attaching Joe Biden's name to the company kept
Speaker 3: the company solvent. Archer continues, that's my only honest opinion.
Speaker 3: But I have no basis for any never heard any conversations.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 3: Then you see the Democrats jump in and Representative Goldman,
Speaker 3: and Goldman who was the lead lawyer for the Democrats
Speaker 3: and the Trump impeachments, and he's now a baby freshman
Speaker 3: Democrat representative from New York. He's decided his job is
Speaker 3: to be Hunter Biden's lawyer, and so he's jumping in.
Speaker 4: He says, what, but that's different than Joe Biden's.
Speaker 3: Action, because you know, Goldman's representative Goldman's job is to
Speaker 3: defend Joe Biden Hunter Biden. Archer goes, right, Goldman, you're
Speaker 3: just talking about that Hunter was on the board, Archer, right.
Speaker 3: And I think that's why Goldman and so Archer it
Speaker 3: was able to survive for as long as it did.
Speaker 3: Goldman by because of additional capital or Archer just because
Speaker 3: of the brand Goldman. Well, I don't understand. How does
Speaker 3: that have an impact?
Speaker 1: Archer?
Speaker 3: Well, the capabilities to navigate DC that they were able to,
Speaker 3: you know, basically be in the news cycle, and I
Speaker 3: think that preserved them from a you know, from a
Speaker 3: longevity standpoint. That's like, my honest, that's really what I
Speaker 3: think that That's like how I think holistically, Goldman. But
Speaker 3: how would that work, Archer? Because people would be intimidated
Speaker 3: to mess with them Goldman in what way?
Speaker 4: Archer? Legally? Goldman?
Speaker 3: Uh huh Archer. So on this line of questioning, I
Speaker 3: have no like proof, I have no nothing. All right,
Speaker 3: let's see though what he does have proof with here's
Speaker 3: another line of questioning. Majority Council, and I want to
Speaker 3: talk about the value going back to this, it would
Speaker 3: be the Spring of twenty fourteen Cafe Milano dinner.
Speaker 4: Archer.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, Spring of fourteen, Yeah, the first one Majority Council.
Speaker 3: And since we talked about it before the break, if
Speaker 3: you could just recap, could you say again who was there?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: This Cafe Milano is the Sishi restaurant in DC, and
Speaker 3: there was a dinner. Here's Archer's answer. Archer, sure, Keynes, Rakashev,
Speaker 3: Kareem Massimov, Yolena Battterina, possibly Yuri Hunter Biden, Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: mind you, Joe Biden's the Vice President of the United
Speaker 3: States at the time, possibly Eric Schwerreen, Majority Council. The
Speaker 3: duration of the time that Joe Biden stayed there, you
Speaker 3: said you couldn't recall, but do you recall whether he
Speaker 3: had dinner or whether, oh, he had dinner. Yeah, Archer says,
Speaker 3: I recall that he had dinner. It was a regular,
Speaker 3: not not a long dinner, but dinner. Majority Council. And
Speaker 3: so this dinner takes place in the spring of twenty fourteen, approximately.
Speaker 3: But then, do you recall getting a wire on February
Speaker 3: fourteenth of twenty fourteen from Yelena Batcherina for three point
Speaker 3: five million dollars to Rosemont Seneca Thornton Archer to Rosemont
Speaker 3: Seneca Thornton Majority Council. Yes, Archer, yes, and why I
Speaker 3: remember that is from the other testimony. Yes, all right,
Speaker 3: so the Majority Council follows up on this Majority Council.
Speaker 3: There's a wire, an incoming wire to the Rosemont Seneca
Speaker 3: Bohai account for April twenty second of twenty fourteen for
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty two thy three hundred dollars. Soon
Speaker 3: thereafter there's an outgoing wire which appears to be the
Speaker 3: next day to a beneficiary of Schneider Nelson Motor for
Speaker 3: this exact same amount. What was first off? Our understanding
Speaker 3: is that Novatas Holding PTE Limited is associated with Keynes
Speaker 3: rashikev Archer.
Speaker 4: That's my understanding.
Speaker 3: Why did Rosemont Seneca Bohai receive this one hundred and
Speaker 3: forty two thousand dollars payment from Rashakiv Archer? It was
Speaker 3: for a car majority council for Who's car? Archer for
Speaker 3: Hunter's car majority council. Was this a Porsche archer? It
Speaker 3: gets a little foggy here, but I believe it was
Speaker 3: a Fisker first and then a Porsche.
Speaker 1: But it was.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was majority council for an expensive car, archer
Speaker 3: for an expensive car.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: So, by the way, the brand is very profitable. I'm curious, Ben,
Speaker 3: you've lived for forty some odd years on planet Earth.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had Russians? Why are you one hundred
Speaker 3: and forty two thousand dollars to buy a a Porsche
Speaker 3: or a Fisker.
Speaker 2: No, and no one directly connected to Vladimir Putin who
Speaker 2: are best friends, and that's how they get their money.
Speaker 1: They're billions.
Speaker 2: And on top of the fact that center we've got
Speaker 2: to talk about this, they still have not been on
Speaker 2: the sanction While all these other Russian oligarchs have been sanctioned,
Speaker 2: she has not been sanctioned yet every time the sanctions
Speaker 2: lists come out. So if you want to know what
Speaker 2: you get for the money, the three and a half million,
Speaker 2: right or or the other money for the car, apparently
Speaker 2: this is what you get.
Speaker 3: So just to be clear, what you're saying is that
Speaker 3: Joe Biden is sanctioned numerous Russian oligarchs, and they happened
Speaker 3: to be the Russian oligarchs that didn't pay Hunter Biden
Speaker 3: millions of dollars, and he is not sanctioned other Russian oligarchs,
Speaker 3: and they happened to be the Russian oligarchs that did
Speaker 3: pay Hunter Biden millions of dollars or hundreds of thousands
Speaker 3: of dollars.
Speaker 1: Is that yeah? I mean? And that's yes.
Speaker 2: And the suspicious activity reports, by the way back this
Speaker 2: up Alice Overtze Committee backs it up that you had
Speaker 2: three and the emails from from Joe Biden or say Hunter,
Speaker 2: Biden's laptop clearly showed three point five million was wired
Speaker 2: in February of twenty fourteen by the former First Lady
Speaker 2: at Moscow again, Yolena bad Arena, who attended at least
Speaker 2: at least that's the part here if I also find
Speaker 2: interesting at least one dinner with then Vice President Biden
Speaker 2: and his son and was in turn transferred to a
Speaker 2: firm co owned by Archer and Hunter Biden after its
Speaker 2: initial receipt by an empty that Biden defenders had insisted
Speaker 2: was solely controlled by Devin Archer. So they also lied
Speaker 2: about who was controlling the money when it came in.
Speaker 4: It gets worse.
Speaker 3: Let's go through a little bit more of the testimony
Speaker 3: Majority Council. All right, let's move on to the second dinner, Archer,
Speaker 3: the second dinner Majority Counsel, the spring twenty fifteen Cafe Milana.
Speaker 4: Who was there? Archer?
Speaker 3: That dinner was I think we went over it before,
Speaker 3: but it was Vedam, It was Hunter, Joe, myself, Kareem
Speaker 3: massimof a Greek Orthodox priest, maybe someone from the World
Speaker 3: Food Program, majority counsel. And what did Joe do with
Speaker 3: that dinner? Did he have dinner? How long was he there, Archer?
Speaker 3: He had dinner. He had dinner. And there was on
Speaker 3: that one, I believe the first one was like a
Speaker 3: birthday dinner and the second was I think we were
Speaker 3: supposed to talk about the World Food Program.
Speaker 4: So there were some talk about.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, just some some about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you know world food things like fancy sport
Speaker 3: cars for Hunter.
Speaker 4: Listen, crack cocaine's not going to buy itself.
Speaker 3: And by the way, neither is a fancy beach house
Speaker 3: in Delaware. Neither is a classic corvette that that takes money.
Speaker 1: All right there.
Speaker 2: Home renovations, don't forget about Homer renovations. Those are also
Speaker 2: very very important. And the Homer renovations apparently were flowing
Speaker 2: from Hunter Biden's bankcount for his dad's home in Delaware.
Speaker 2: And that's another part of this whole idea, like, oh,
Speaker 2: they never were funneling money to one another, or they
Speaker 2: never were a quote in business together, as the White
Speaker 2: House just recently said. Again another example of the lies
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Speaker 3: All right, the next exchange gets even more damning. If
Speaker 3: that's possible, Majority Council, how many times would you say
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden put his father on speakerphone or referenced his
Speaker 3: father being on the phone in front of others who
Speaker 3: were either foreign investors or foreign nationals.
Speaker 4: Who is soliciting business.
Speaker 3: With or working with approximately Archer? Approximately the differentiation between
Speaker 3: investor and normal course of the day. You know, it's
Speaker 3: very hard to speculate on. But he they spoke every day.
Speaker 3: He acknowledged that they spoke every day, and he would,
Speaker 3: you know, he would sometimes make it a parent that
Speaker 3: he spoke to his dad, and sometimes he put him
Speaker 3: on speaker. But as far as quantifying the number, you know,
Speaker 3: relative to investors, I don't know. Majority Council, not necessarily investors,
Speaker 3: but with people who Hunter Biden was trying to either
Speaker 3: get business with, or make contacts with, or add value
Speaker 3: to Archer in my ten in my whole partnership, maybe
Speaker 3: twenty times. Just stop there, right there, he said, twenty
Speaker 3: times Hunter Biden would put Joe Biden on the phone
Speaker 3: with people he was trying to get business with or
Speaker 3: make contacts with or add value to Majority Council. And
Speaker 3: during those twenty times, did Hunter Biden ever place his
Speaker 3: dad on speakerphone?
Speaker 4: Archer?
Speaker 3: Yes, let's get a little more detail, Majority Council. But
Speaker 3: if I were to just call my dad right now
Speaker 3: and put him on speakerphone and we're in a professional
Speaker 3: business meeting here, would that be odd to you?
Speaker 4: Archer? Would that be odd to me? Majority Council?
Speaker 3: Yes, that would be odd if you called your dad
Speaker 3: right now, Majority Council. So there's a time and a
Speaker 3: place where it's professional to do.
Speaker 4: So excuse me.
Speaker 3: When you're in a personal meeting and you may call
Speaker 3: your dad or a family member if you're with family.
Speaker 3: But if you're in a professional meeting and you're meeting
Speaker 3: foreign business leaders or whoever it may be, and you
Speaker 3: just place your dad on speakerphone on the table, that's
Speaker 3: a little odd, isn't it?
Speaker 4: Archer?
Speaker 3: That is a little odd. I mean it's not odd.
Speaker 3: I mean it's quite obvious what we're talking around, Majority Council.
Speaker 3: So what are we talking about? You are talking around it,
Speaker 3: and so I'd like to get it out. What are
Speaker 3: we talking about here?
Speaker 4: Archer?
Speaker 3: That I think at the end of the day. Part
Speaker 3: of what was delivered is the brand. It's like anything,
Speaker 3: you know, if you're Jamie Diamond's son or any CEO,
Speaker 3: you know. I think that's what we're talking about here,
Speaker 3: is that there was brand being delivered along with other
Speaker 3: capabilities in reach. I think brand is the best way
Speaker 3: to describe it all. Right, Next exchange, Majority Council. Going
Speaker 3: back to the calls that Hunter Biden would put on
Speaker 3: speakerphone with his father and others. Can you describe what
Speaker 3: the other people would say and if you can recall
Speaker 3: after Hunter Biden did that, because I'll tell you just
Speaker 3: from an everyday American, if someone put the vice president
Speaker 3: of the United States on the phone right in front
Speaker 3: of you, it'd be pretty impressive. Archer, Absolutely, Majority Counsel,
Speaker 3: And I would think there would be some sort of
Speaker 3: reaction from those people. Archer, Yeah, I think everybody. I
Speaker 3: think everybody remains you know, cool and calm like it was,
Speaker 3: you know, and then probably called their friends and family
Speaker 3: and said they spoke to them. But you know, the reaction,
Speaker 3: I don't have any specifics of like people jumping up
Speaker 3: and giving high fives, but I think it was, you know,
Speaker 3: a signal that you know, they respected and thought was
Speaker 3: of value.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Finally, three more lines of questioning where it concerned the
Speaker 3: objective to get help from DC conversation One Majority Council
Speaker 3: did during that I'll say, after dinner at the Four Seasons,
Speaker 3: did Mikolaslochevsky or Vadam ask Hunter Biden to make any
Speaker 3: phone calls?
Speaker 4: Archer?
Speaker 3: Yes, though I was not a party of that phone call.
Speaker 3: Majority Council, What was the request, Archer? The request was
Speaker 3: I think they were getting pressure and they requested Hunter,
Speaker 3: you know, help them with some of that pressure. Majority Council.
Speaker 3: What pressure Archer? Government, Government pressure on their you know,
Speaker 3: government pressure from Ukrainian government, investigations into Mikola, et cetera.
Speaker 3: But it was it was not it wasn't like a
Speaker 3: specific not a specific request. It was just we were
Speaker 3: sitting there at the Four Seasons having you know, coffee,
Speaker 3: and there was there was Mikola, there was one of
Speaker 3: the managers for the Four Seasons who managed that property, Vadam.
Speaker 3: So it wasn't like a closed it wasn't like it
Speaker 3: was not like a specific meeting. Majority Council. When you
Speaker 3: say pressure from the government at this time, were you
Speaker 3: aware that Victor Choken was investigating Barisma. Archer to the
Speaker 3: best I vaguely whether it was Shoken, I vaguely. There
Speaker 3: was a lot of pressure initially there was. There was
Speaker 3: several pressure issues. It was kind of a theme of Barisma.
Speaker 3: There was capital tied up in London twenty three million
Speaker 3: pounds that there was, you know, a US visa denied
Speaker 3: and the visa Bexco visa denied, and then there was
Speaker 3: so Shoken wasn't specifically on my radar as being an
Speaker 3: individual that was targeting him. But yes, there was constant
Speaker 3: pressure and it was like it was like whack a
Speaker 3: mole in regards to the pressure. As they had to
Speaker 3: resolve this point. Congressman Jim Jordan jumps in the request
Speaker 3: from mister for Mikolis Lochski and Vadam to mister Biden
Speaker 3: and or if you said it was to you, the
Speaker 3: request was for help from whom to deal with what pressure?
Speaker 4: Archer.
Speaker 3: The request, you know, basically the request is like can
Speaker 3: d C help? But there were not you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to there was not. It wasn't like there
Speaker 3: weren't specific you know, can the big guy help. It
Speaker 3: was always this amorphous can we get help in DC?
Speaker 3: Representative Jordan quest was help from the United States government
Speaker 3: to deal with the pressure that they were under from
Speaker 3: their prosecutor, and that entailed the freezing of assets at
Speaker 3: the London Bank and other things that were going on
Speaker 3: in Ukraine. Archer correct, all right. Conversation number two, Representative
Speaker 3: Andy Biggs. So why do you think they were asking
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden for DC help?
Speaker 4: Archer?
Speaker 3: I mean why, Representative Biggs? I mean, I mean, what
Speaker 3: did you take away from that?
Speaker 4: Archer?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he was a lobbyist and an expert,
Speaker 3: and obviously he carried, you know, a very powerful name,
Speaker 3: so I think it was that's what they were asking for.
Speaker 2: This is when you hear it the way you're describing it, Senator,
Speaker 2: I think most people, and this is something, by the way,
Speaker 2: you're not going to hear anywhere else because they don't
Speaker 2: have the time, or they don't want to take the time,
Speaker 2: or they don't want to tell you this story. You
Speaker 2: hear this testimony and it's so damning. It's also so
Speaker 2: condescending to the American people that this is allowed to
Speaker 2: happen in this country by the President of the United
Speaker 2: States of America, who was selling the United States of
Speaker 2: America out to the highest corrupt binner, which was also
Speaker 2: in many ways a shockingly low amount of money that
Speaker 2: you could buy a vice president.
Speaker 1: For a million here, two million here from a million here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's valid point. I apologize to all
Speaker 2: Porsche drivers out there, but it's it's amazing that this
Speaker 2: is happening. And I have to go back real quick
Speaker 2: center and play this because when all this came out
Speaker 2: that you just read, the media when to full blown
Speaker 2: cover their ABS's the White House, the president, their own.
Speaker 3: Oh come come on, Ben, why would you call it
Speaker 3: a cover up. It's not like they turned around and
Speaker 3: indicted Donald Trump or anything.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Good point, But they did go on TV and they
Speaker 2: did say over and over again that it's quote normal
Speaker 2: for you to have your dad kind of juice your
Speaker 2: business with your context. Here is just some of the
Speaker 2: media saying this right after this testimony.
Speaker 8: Nothing not even approximating improper, much less wrong or illegal.
Speaker 4: It's wishful thinking. They're trying to create a scandal.
Speaker 9: Think it pretty clear, at least so far, there is
Speaker 9: nothing there.
Speaker 7: House Republicans continue their search for any proof at all
Speaker 7: tying President Joe Biden to his son Hunter's business dealings.
Speaker 8: Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter Biden's business dealings.
Speaker 10: Because they wanted they wanted dirty of Biden's name.
Speaker 8: Do you know Republicans have been trying to use Hunter
Speaker 8: Biden's behavior against the President. Did not know about anything
Speaker 8: that Hunter Biden was doing.
Speaker 11: See, Biden was simply involved in his son's life in
Speaker 11: a personal capacity. City Republicans from consistently trying to make
Speaker 11: this argument and create the illusion of some malfeasans being there.
Speaker 8: Spoke to business associates of Hunter Biden to say hello,
Speaker 8: to have small talk, casual conversation.
Speaker 6: Hunter Biden talked to his dad on the phone all
Speaker 6: the time. They talked basically every day. Sometimes Joe Biden
Speaker 6: would say hello to the people in the room if
Speaker 6: he popped in or on the phone.
Speaker 4: Whatever I saw.
Speaker 8: Casual conversation, nice cities, the weather. They never discussed the business.
Speaker 7: These were more of just cordial hello types of conversations.
Speaker 5: Business was never discussed on those calls, and there was
Speaker 5: more casual sort of check ins, casual conversations.
Speaker 9: President Biden might have said, hey, putting me on speakerphone.
Speaker 9: You know, are you having a business meeting, like, what
Speaker 9: is that about? But the hang up on your front
Speaker 9: on your side.
Speaker 8: Boe Biden, Hunter's brother and President Biden's son was very
Speaker 8: ill with cancer and then passed away. That as a
Speaker 8: witness today testified was what these conversations and these calls
Speaker 8: were about.
Speaker 6: And we should put this in context.
Speaker 8: This is a time when bo Biden, the President's other
Speaker 8: son was ill and then dying and then passed away.
Speaker 9: Very fraud and sad time for the Biden family, and
Speaker 9: we know how important family is to the president.
Speaker 7: They're doing Donald Trump's bitting, going after Hunter Biden, trying
Speaker 7: to create a tie to the president.
Speaker 6: This is a this is a political move here, it is.
Speaker 9: It is a.
Speaker 6: Politics thing, right inasmuch as it's anything else fair?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 7: It does not appear to have been a direct business tie,
Speaker 7: is right now.
Speaker 3: You don't see any conduct that's illegal that there is
Speaker 3: regulational law that's prohibiting it, even though it might be
Speaker 3: highly unethical.
Speaker 8: I don't see high crimes, and mister readers, I don't
Speaker 8: even see a low crime.
Speaker 9: I see a son who's using his father, people.
Speaker 10: With famous laugh names, using them for their own purposes.
Speaker 10: People in your families, they're near do well. This is
Speaker 10: as old as tie.
Speaker 2: It's not old as time sentator and as James Comer said,
Speaker 2: it was influence pedaling they sold Joe Biden, and Joe
Speaker 2: Biden himself talked to every single person that has wired
Speaker 2: money to the Bidens. That's James Comer's exact quote, and
Speaker 2: the entire media apparatus is saying. It is just normal
Speaker 2: for you to call your dad and to talk to
Speaker 2: your dad, and then they just happen to be sitting
Speaker 2: with every Again, I love this line from James Comer.
Speaker 2: They Joe Biden himself talked to every single person that
Speaker 2: has wired money to the Bidens.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I got to say that that clown
Speaker 3: parade that you just played every person on it should
Speaker 3: if there was a card to be a journalist, they
Speaker 3: should hand in their cards. They don't get to pretend
Speaker 3: to be journalists anymore. They are propagandists, they are cheerleaders,
Speaker 3: they are professional liars for the White House. This is normal.
Speaker 3: Nothing to see, you know, one of them. This isn't
Speaker 3: a high crime and mystermeter. It's not even a low
Speaker 3: crime or misdemeanter. No Let's be clear, getting paid five
Speaker 3: million dollars or ten million dollars five to you and
Speaker 3: five year son for official favors when you're vice president
Speaker 3: of the United States, that's bribery. Bribery is in fact
Speaker 3: a high crime or misdemeanor. The Constitution says you can
Speaker 3: be in peach for trees and bribery or other high
Speaker 3: crimes are misdemeanors. So both trees in bribery are in
Speaker 3: fact high crimes are misdemeanors. But bribery is explicitly enumerated.
Speaker 3: And every one of those clowns is ignoring the fact
Speaker 3: that Devin Archer, if what he has said is true,
Speaker 3: testified that Joe Biden has been lying for years and
Speaker 3: brazenly lying. Never talk, never talk, never talk, never once
Speaker 3: talked to Hunter about any of his business dealings. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: sat down at Cafe Milano with like every corrupt Russian
Speaker 3: and Ukrainian you could find. I mean, like, holy cow.
Speaker 3: You know, it's one thing. Listen, there are lots of
Speaker 3: people in Washington who have a nar to well kid
Speaker 3: who goes and is a lobbyist for some big company
Speaker 3: and is selling influence on K Street. Sadly, that is
Speaker 3: quite common. I'll tell you what's not common is going
Speaker 3: and seeking out the Chinese communists, going and seeking out
Speaker 3: corrupt oligarchs, going and seeking out enemies of America and
Speaker 3: shaking them down for millions of dollars. And to be clear, look,
Speaker 3: Devon's Archer testimony makes clear Hunter Biden didn't know a
Speaker 3: damn thing about baris Me. He didn't know a damn
Speaker 3: thing about oil and gas. He didn't know a damn
Speaker 3: thing about Ukraine. He couldn't speak Ukrainian. His value was
Speaker 3: one value only that he could dial up the phone
Speaker 3: and get Joe on the phone, and Joe would take
Speaker 3: the call and jump on the speaker phone and then act.
Speaker 3: And let's let's remember what a bribe is, quid pro quo,
Speaker 3: the phrase the Democrats made famous in the first impeachment
Speaker 3: trial of Trump. This for that, the FD ten twenty
Speaker 3: three and Devon Archer's testimony both indicate that Barissma wanted
Speaker 3: help with the government pre pressure from Ukraine, specifically the
Speaker 3: prosecutor Victor Shoken that was going after him, that had
Speaker 3: frozen the oligarch's assets.
Speaker 4: And we know that the quote happened.
Speaker 3: We know that Joe Biden went to Ukraine and held
Speaker 3: up a billion dollars in federal government loan guarantees until
Speaker 3: the Ukrainian president fired that prosecutor. Joe Biden in the
Speaker 3: famous Son of a Bitch interview, has bragged about that.
Speaker 3: So the quote part is undisputed and it's admitted. The
Speaker 3: only part that is even slightly in dispute is the
Speaker 3: quid part was in fact five million dollars paid to one
Speaker 3: hundred and five million dollars paid to Joe in exchange
Speaker 3: for that. If the answer to that is yes, then
Speaker 3: Joe Biden is guilty of bribery. And every one of
Speaker 3: those clowns desperately wants to cover that up because they're
Speaker 3: they're not even pretending to be journalists anymore.
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Speaker 1: Senator.
Speaker 2: Lastly, Michael Reagan put out a very interesting tweet, Michael
Speaker 2: Reagan's run Reagan's son. He said, quote, in the eight
Speaker 2: years that my father was President of the United States,
Speaker 2: I never once set in the room with business associates
Speaker 2: and called him on the phone. If I had, the
Speaker 2: Democrats would have skewered me. He's absolutely right, and the
Speaker 2: media and then they would have tried to impeach Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 2: I'm sure if that would have been the case. And
Speaker 2: I think Ronald Reagan's point is, look, just how much
Speaker 2: has changed in this country from when we had a
Speaker 2: free press compared to the socialist press we have now
Speaker 2: and what you can now get away with that no
Speaker 2: one could have gotten away with back in the eighties
Speaker 2: or the nineties or even the early two thousands.
Speaker 4: Look, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: And it's worth understanding that the objective of the Democrats,
Speaker 3: the objective of the Biden DOJ, the objective of the
Speaker 3: corporate media, it's all the same, which is to protect
Speaker 3: the big guy, to protect Joe Biden. We've talked at
Speaker 3: length on this podcast about how Hunter Biden's personal troubles,
Speaker 3: his substance abuse. This is a troubled soul. That's not
Speaker 3: an issue of national news. If he were just another
Speaker 3: guy struggling with his demons.
Speaker 4: Okay, there are lots of people who deal with that.
Speaker 3: The reason this is an issue of public concern is
Speaker 3: it directly implicates official corruption by the then vice president
Speaker 3: of the United States and the current president of the
Speaker 3: United States, and Joe Biden is complicit. He is an
Speaker 3: active participant.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: One of the exchanges, I think it was Eugene Robinson,
Speaker 3: who's on Morning, Joe is saying, well, gosh, Joe might
Speaker 3: have said, well, well, why do you keep putting me
Speaker 3: on the phone?
Speaker 1: Stop that.
Speaker 3: Well, Joe didn't say that, because when it happens over
Speaker 3: and over and over again, Joe's not a moron. He
Speaker 3: understands why Hunter Biden is putting him on the phone
Speaker 3: with these oligarchs, with these people who are paying his
Speaker 3: son millions of dollars. And by the way, it's not
Speaker 3: just getting on the phone. He goes to these dinners
Speaker 3: at Cafe Milano, where they're all sitting there. I mean,
Speaker 3: he understands full well this is business generation, and it's
Speaker 3: business generation where they're seeking very specific favors from Joe
Speaker 3: Biden in his official capacity. Remember the WhatsApp encrypted message
Speaker 3: where he said, I'm sitting here next to my father
Speaker 3: and if you don't pay me the money, my father,
Speaker 3: I don't have the language right in front of me,
Speaker 3: but will punish the living daylights.
Speaker 4: Out of you. To paraphrase it roughly, it.
Speaker 3: Was very clear Hunter was selling carrot and stick. The
Speaker 3: carrot is pay me and Daddy.
Speaker 4: Will do favors for you.
Speaker 3: The stick was don't pay me, and Daddy will harm
Speaker 3: you using the official power of government. If that is
Speaker 3: in fact what happened, and every day the evidence is
Speaker 3: making it more and more likely that is what happened.
Speaker 3: That is the very essence of corruption. And I want
Speaker 3: everyone just to ask yourself something. So for the bulk
Speaker 3: of this podcast, what we did is I simp read
Speaker 3: excerpts from Devin Archer's testament. By the way, the full
Speaker 3: transcripts much longer than that. I just just selected some
Speaker 3: key excerpts that were particularly newsworthy. I want you to
Speaker 3: ask yourself, did you read any of these excerpts in
Speaker 3: the newspaper. Did you see any of these excerpts on
Speaker 3: the six o'clock news? Did you see any of them
Speaker 3: on CNN or MSNBC, Now that they don't cover actual news,
Speaker 3: but I guarantee you you saw all of them hyperventilating
Speaker 3: with joy about yet another indictment of Donald Trump. Every
Speaker 3: one of those journalists should be ashamed because they're no
Speaker 3: longer practicing journalism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, journalism is dead in this country, There's no doubt
Speaker 2: about it. Don't forget to go back and listen to
Speaker 2: our last show. We're going to keep covering this. We
Speaker 2: will also cover more on the Trump indictments, but this
Speaker 2: Devin Archer testimony is something they want to push out
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