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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: You have all these coaching vacancies, and it feels like

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Speaker 2: every year it's around five to seven vacancies. And I

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Speaker 2: had a source yesterday say, hey, I understand you make

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Speaker 2: these coaching moves, but who are the candidates? Like who

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Speaker 2: is Ben Johnson this year? Who's Aaron Glenn this year?

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Speaker 2: Who's that coordinator? Where you go, that's why we're making

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Speaker 2: the move. You can look at your team, you can

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Speaker 2: employ your team to let's make a change. Okay, the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: you make a change, they lose this weekend. Who you

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Speaker 2: bringing in the Ravens? You bringing in somebody better than

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Speaker 2: John Harbaugh? And I know sometimes you need change, but

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Speaker 2: I don't like change for change's sake. I think you

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Speaker 2: got to be careful. And you know, we always feel

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Speaker 2: like the next guy is going to be better. That's

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Speaker 2: not always the case. The next quarterback is going to

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Speaker 2: be better. Not always the case. Mike Tann and mom.

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Speaker 2: He's been in these battles. P a NFL front office insider.

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Speaker 2: You can see him on Get Up Sports Center NFL Live.

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Speaker 2: Let's look at the six openings. Let's start with the

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Speaker 2: worst opening.

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Speaker 3: I would say Arizona, Dan, given the fact that the

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Speaker 3: uncertainty of Kyler Murray, the number of good young players

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Speaker 3: on the contract. I think Marvin Harrison could be a superstar.

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Speaker 3: Trade McBride is a very good player, but beyond that,

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot more questions than answers in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: All right. Next on the list would be.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say Vegas, but like that cuts both

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Speaker 3: ways because if you get Fernando Mendoza, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: someone like Kurt Signetti, who I think would be a

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Speaker 3: fascinating higher that could be truly transformational.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of way a wait, hold on,

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Speaker 2: hold on, you're talking about a package deal for the

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Speaker 2: Raiders with Kurt Signetting Dan who says no?

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Speaker 5: Who says no?

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Speaker 3: When you go back over the last forty years and

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Speaker 3: nobody knows this fair than you do in North American sports,

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Speaker 3: and you think about the transformational coaching jobs. When you

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Speaker 3: talk about Mike Cheshesti leaving West Point and creating Duke basketball,

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Speaker 3: you could talk about Jim Calhoun going from Northeastern to

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Speaker 3: yukon men's basketball. You could talk about Gino Ariama and

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Speaker 3: women's basketball. But when you think about where they've been

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Speaker 3: for over one hundred years and what he's done in

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Speaker 3: two years. And I say this a lot. The data

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Speaker 3: is overwhelming that college coaches fail. But what in Kurt

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Speaker 3: Signetti's background would lead you to believe that he wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be successful.

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Speaker 2: I always look at style. You know that style works

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Speaker 2: in college? Does it work you know with pro players?

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Speaker 2: So that would be the first thing I would say.

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Speaker 3: Dan, you're a form professional baseball player. You gravitated to

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Speaker 3: coaches who made you better that would ultimately make you

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Speaker 3: more money. And there's a lot of different styles that

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Speaker 3: work in the NFL across the board. And if Kurt

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Speaker 3: Signetti walked into that building, what the credibility he has?

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Speaker 3: And he's won at Indiana University in Pennsylvania. He'sn't one

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Speaker 3: at James Madison. He won at Indiana where no one's

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Speaker 3: ever won before. If I'm a player, this man may

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Speaker 3: be able to put more money in my pocket, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna give him a chance.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Next on that coaching vacancy list, you know Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I look, look, the situation to Cleveland is they have

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Speaker 3: some good young players. You know, they had a productive

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Speaker 3: draft this year. Carson Swassinger. I think quin Shawn Jenkins

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Speaker 3: will be a good player. Harold Fannon should be a

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Speaker 3: good player. But the offensive line isn't where it once was,

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Speaker 3: and obviously the quarterback position has massive question marks. From

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson Shador Sanders, who I'd liked a lot. I

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Speaker 3: thought he was a second round pick coming out, but

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of questions about who's going to be

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Speaker 2: Okay, why isn't a hit? The elephant is in the

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Speaker 2: room and it's Deshaun Watson. If he was practicing with

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Speaker 2: the team, he's under contract. Is he going to get

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Speaker 2: a chance to be the starting quarterback for the Browns

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Speaker 2: next season?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: Possibly, but he's a band aid because he's finally you know,

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Speaker 3: they're over the guaranteed money next year. So possibly, but

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Speaker 3: we need if you and I are running the Browns,

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Speaker 3: job one, two and three is to get that position solidified.

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Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel is a twobe, probably a three. Chador may

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Speaker 3: be a French starter. What do we have there? And

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Speaker 3: just Deshaun Watson help us get the new coach established. Possibly,

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Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, we got to

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Speaker 3: go get a new quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but man, that job.

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Speaker 2: As much as you get a great fan base and

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Speaker 2: you do have some talent there, you're still walking into

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Speaker 2: a situation where ownership or GM decided they were going

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Speaker 2: to go rogue with you know, their quarterbacks. And you

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Speaker 2: can't have two rookie quarterbacks. I mean that, That to

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Speaker 2: me is malpractice.

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Speaker 4: And with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: I understand, and look, Shaudor may make it, you know,

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Speaker 3: he certainly can't. I'm just saying, let's not put our

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Speaker 3: eggs in his basket. Let's go get another one. That's

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Speaker 3: why I think that's in the bottom of the six jobs.

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Speaker 3: That's still to be in the bottom tier.

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Speaker 4: Right next on the list, I would go.

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Speaker 5: With the Giants.

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Speaker 3: I like Jackson Dart a little concerned about his completion

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Speaker 3: percentage was near the bottom this year, twenty seventh heading

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Speaker 3: until last game. Obviously, he has to learn how to

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Speaker 5: Ironically.

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Speaker 3: In New York, we brought in Joe Girardi, who at

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Speaker 3: the time was the manager of the Yankees, to work

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Speaker 3: with Mark Sanchez on a protection plan. Learn how to slide,

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Speaker 3: learn how to shift your body weight. So I think

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Speaker 3: that's a skill you can learn and one of the

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Speaker 3: things I would tell all these young quarterbacks, Cam Wore,

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Speaker 3: Jadeen Daniels, Jackson Dart. Part of the evaluation process of

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Speaker 3: you being a great player is a protection plan you

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Speaker 3: need to have because your availability is part and parcel

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Speaker 3: in the value you bring to this team.

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Speaker 2: You needed somebody to teach Mark Sanchez how to slide.

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Speaker 3: Rex Ryan brought in Girardi and it actually was an

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Speaker 3: incredible afternoon because it really I think helped Mark become

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Speaker 3: a better He protected himself better after we met with Girardi.

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Speaker 5: It's a skill.

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Speaker 3: Dan, Look, you're a baseball player, you would know it

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Speaker 3: better than most football coaches. But obviously the nuances of

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Speaker 3: one to go out of bounds, you know, obviously there

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Speaker 3: he'll learn from that. But it is a skill to

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Speaker 3: understand how you protect yourself. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, those

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Speaker 3: guys knew when to throw it away, they knew when

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Speaker 3: And Jackson Dart, it's a skill that he could get

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Speaker 3: better at. But that's something he has to work at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he has to understand that.

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Speaker 2: You know that his mindset, he can he can know

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Speaker 2: how to slide, Mike, but he has to want to slide.

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Speaker 4: That's the biggest problem I see with Jackson dart Well.

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Speaker 3: The head coach has to make it part of your

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Speaker 3: job description. If you want to play football here, if

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Speaker 3: you want to be your starting quarterback, you will slide.

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Speaker 3: If you take unnecessary and reckless it's either you're going

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Speaker 3: one of them is going to make you not on

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Speaker 3: the field. So let's come up with a plan where

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Speaker 3: you could be aggressive. There's times to dive, there's times

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Speaker 3: to go head first, third down, end zone, fourth down,

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Speaker 3: but there's also times where you got to lift to

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Speaker 3: fight another down, and that comes with experienced maturity. I

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Speaker 4: The best opening then is.

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, you know, you look at Atlanta and Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: I would put Tennessee first. I think when cam Ward

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Speaker 3: has attribute you can't see when you're successful at incarnagget

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Speaker 3: word in Washington State and then at Miami. The thing

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Speaker 3: last year talking to cam Ward's teammates, and he has

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Speaker 3: attribute you can't see. So I'm betting on the character

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Speaker 3: cam Ward. Look, Dan Moore was horrific at left tackle

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Speaker 3: this year. Kevin Zeitler's close to the end. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to fix the offensive line, but they have the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They have a brand new stadium that's basically being you know,

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Speaker 3: renovated there. I think Nashal is a great place to

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Speaker 3: attract people. I certainly think that's the best job available.

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Speaker 4: Explain to me the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, Pennickxwood healthy is a great player.

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Speaker 3: I think he's somebody that can be a franchise quarterback. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: he's had multiple ACL injuries. I would keep Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: They have great young talent, Vijion Robinson, obviously, Drake London.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts has been somewhat inconsistent.

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Speaker 5: To me, that's the.

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Speaker 3: Second best job, just given you know, all that young talent.

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Speaker 3: To Kenley, I was a little surprised, you know that

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Speaker 3: Raheem was let go given any one four straight but

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Speaker 4: There is there a hot coaching candidate.

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Speaker 5: Besides the aforementioned mister Signetti.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think there's a bunch of guys that would

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Speaker 3: be really, really good. Look Kevin Stefanski to me, has

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Speaker 3: you know, a good track record and certainly deserves, you know,

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to be in the mix.

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Speaker 6: Yere.

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Speaker 3: There's a number of good coordinators Luyn and Rumo, Jeff Hafley,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Campanelli, amongst others. And I don't believe in the

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Speaker 3: dogma of oh well we got a quarterback, we got

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Speaker 3: to go get an offensive coach necessarily. Look at Mike Grabel,

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Speaker 3: look at Mike McDonald. Two of the best coaches in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're just everybodybody wants to move on

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Speaker 2: it doesn't, because like the Steelers with Mike Tomlin and

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Speaker 2: I said this before, I don't believe in change, you know,

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Speaker 2: just for the sake of change, Like I got to know, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what am I getting? I know, maybe what I'm losing,

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Speaker 2: but what am I getting? You know, to replace these

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's very prescient.

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Speaker 3: And the two questions I would always ask anybody running

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Speaker 3: And how much is it going to cost? And typically

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Speaker 3: when you talk about players, you're talking about cap dollars

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Speaker 3: or draft choices. So, hey, you know we take this

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks thinks, Okay, here are the five that are out there.

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Speaker 3: Who do we think is better? What's the cost? And

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Speaker 3: then likewise, as it relates to you know, changing coaches,

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Speaker 3: you're right. And again I'm a big data guy. Like

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Speaker 3: the data is overwhelmingly against a college coach. That's not

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Speaker 3: to say that there could be a good college coach,

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Speaker 3: but that just means, like, you know, the sign we

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Speaker 3: always had up in the office was in God we

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Speaker 3: trust for everyone else, we need data.

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Speaker 5: So if we're going to go.

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Speaker 3: Down that that that that you know, that whole Dan,

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Speaker 3: we got to ask more questions, get good information, and

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Speaker 2: He's the new head coach at Michigan, Kyle Whittingham, former

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Speaker 4: You contact them or they contact you.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's my agent. And I'm not sure how the

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Speaker 2: What kind of questions do you have going into a situation.

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Speaker 2: We all know how great the job is, but man

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's the place doesn't need a rebuild,

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Speaker 6: I needed to hear that they were having a good

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Speaker 6: Well, I need to hear that Michigan was what I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what do you need to learn about, you know,

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Speaker 6: Forty million plus.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean it doesn't feel sustainable, Kyle, it's.

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Speaker 6: Not it's not sustain well, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: Where are we going with the playoffs? It's probably going

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Speaker 6: Well to sixteen? First of all, and I kind of

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Speaker 2: What kind of money are we talking about? What's a

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Speaker 6: Well, I heard today that one university in the state

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Speaker 6: That's the most I've heard of. And I you know,

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Speaker 4: Is Bryce Underwood staying?

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Speaker 6: We hope? So I think he got a good vibe.

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Speaker 4: You don't know, well, you don't.

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Speaker 6: Know anything yet. I mean, shoot, it's a it's the wild,

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Speaker 4: We're curious if we could have your old Utah gear.

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Speaker 4: You're right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, red to blue and blue was our was our rival.

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Speaker 2: you know, having two daughters who lived in Salt Lake,

436
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Speaker 2: and it's like, well you did, yeah, no, they both

437
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: they both left, they both came back home. Yeah, they

438
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 2: loved it. They loved Salt Lake. But they said that

439
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 2: that rivalry, you don't understand it until you go to

440
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Speaker 2: it exactly.

441
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Speaker 6: You know.

442
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Speaker 2: So because I grew up Ohio State Michigan, right, and

443
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Speaker 2: I always think that there's no better rivalry, but there

444
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Speaker 2: there are ones. When you go to them, you understand

445
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: the importance. It's just not national magnitude like Ohio State

446
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Speaker 2: and Michigan are.

447
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Speaker 6: Doesn't have the national bandwidth that that we have in

448
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Speaker 6: this rivalry, but it is every bit is intense and

449
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 6: every bit as you know that the animosity in the

450
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Speaker 6: in the state. You know, you're either red or blue

451
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Speaker 6: in that state, and it's pretty well split. I mean

452
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 6: it's almost an even division there.

453
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Speaker 4: Could you take Ryan Day when you were younger, when

454
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Speaker 4: I was younger, or could you take him now so

455
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Speaker 4: he's forty six?

456
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

457
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Speaker 4: Could you take Ryan Day right now in the octagon.

458
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Speaker 6: In an acting on Well, there's one way to find out.

459
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Speaker 6: I I don't know. I like Ryan. I got a

460
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Speaker 6: lot of respect for him. We played him in the

461
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Speaker 6: in the Rose Bowl a couple of years back. Well,

462
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Speaker 6: I guess's been him three or four years now, so

463
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Speaker 6: excellent football coach.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't have to say nice things anymore, man,

465
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Speaker 2: It's best that you don't, Okay.

466
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Speaker 6: I know, I probably put my foot in my mouth

467
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Speaker 6: right there.

468
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Speaker 4: Congrats, good luck, appreciate.

469
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Speaker 6: You joining us, Appreciate you, dun thank you.

470
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Speaker 4: We taped that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Five hours later, Bryce Underwood tweeted that he was staying

472
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Speaker 2: at Michigan, but you could hear it in his voice

473
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Speaker 2: when he said, is your quarterback going to be staying.

474
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Speaker 2: He's like, uh, I hope, so he didn't know. Yeah,

475
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: do you think he didn't know? Well, if he knew,

476
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Speaker 2: then why wouldn't he say? Well, I mean maybe he

477
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: wanted the player to announce it. I mean that's kind

478
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Speaker 2: of the way things work now.

479
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Speaker 8: You know, the player announces they're leaving, the player announces

480
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Speaker 8: they're staying. I wonder if he really had no idea.

481
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie, I.

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Speaker 9: Would speculate that these days there was probably a renegotiation

483
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Speaker 9: of his contract at Michigan and it was not signed yet,

484
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Speaker 9: and that when we spoke to him, it was there

485
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 9: was not ink on the page yet.

486
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Speaker 2: I believe that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it feels like

487
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: everybody is in the transfer portal, or the potential for

488
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 2: every player to be in the transfer portal, because you know,

489
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: you want to you want to at least find out

490
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Speaker 2: what the market is for you, or have somebody find

491
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Speaker 2: that out for you. And you know, as Kyle was saying,

492
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's quarterback is getting five million dollars to go to

493
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Speaker 2: Texas Tech.

494
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Speaker 4: Now that's that's changed as.

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Speaker 2: Far as the price, because as I told you, I

496
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Speaker 2: think before the holiday break, I was told that the

497
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Speaker 2: going rate for a quarterback transferring was three to four

498
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Speaker 2: million dollars. And now all of a sudden, you get

499
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's quarterback. I don't know his name. Let me see,

500
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: have you seen his name? I should have that, but

501
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Speaker 2: I know that he was obviously a very good quarterback

502
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Speaker 2: and he's going to Texas Tech and getting five million dollars.

503
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Speaker 2: So yes, Marvin Brandon Soresby, Okay, all right, yeah, five

504
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Speaker 2: million dollars. And you know, as I told you, that

505
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Speaker 2: source said there was a high school tight end and

506
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Speaker 2: there were two major college programs that were paying him,

507
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Speaker 2: and he was still in high school.

508
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Speaker 4: But it's basically, hey, we're going to give you the money.

509
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Speaker 2: We're giving you the money before you even you know,

510
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Speaker 2: get to college. We're going to give you the money

511
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Speaker 2: in high school. And he a decorated player and he

512
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: was getting paid while I mean, that's where they're starting.

513
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Speaker 4: I mean the same thing.

514
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Speaker 2: Look at the shoe industry, it's we're not waiting for

515
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Speaker 2: you to get to the NBA. We're not waiting for

516
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: you to get to college. We're not waiting for you

517
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Speaker 2: to get to high school. We're going to AAU, We're

518
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: going as early as possible, to get you in our shoes,

519
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: to get you in the program, get your free gear.

520
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Speaker 2: This is the same thing. It's like you're grooming to

521
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: get them to go to your school. What's it going

522
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: to take and when do you start? This is what's

523
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: going on right now. They and even as coach said,

524
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Speaker 2: this isn't sustainable that you have programs who are going

525
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Speaker 2: to be spending forty to fifty million dollars a year. Now,

526
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: some can, but you know you're and you can't say, well, Congress,

527
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: you guys fix this because we can't. And really that's

528
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: almost the mindset. It feels like, hey, not what you

529
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Speaker 2: can do, Maybe Congress can help us. I think Congress

530
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: has other things they're probably working on, but you know

531
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Speaker 2: we can check the docket.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin A, you're going to see a lot more

533
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Speaker 3: mid season changes like you did this season because they're

534
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Speaker 3: paying all this money.

535
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Speaker 4: They're like, we're not seeing results, so you got.

536
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Speaker 6: To go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean we see this in the NFL where you

539
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Speaker 2: get you get two years. It feels like two years

540
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Speaker 2: as a coach. Two years is a quarterback before we

541
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Speaker 2: you know, rubber stamp you as your franchise quarterback, or

542
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: you're our coach, or you're a bust or you should

543
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: be just a coordinator not a head coach. I mean

544
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: that's it's getting quicker and quicker because the money is

545
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: getting bigger and bigger, and you want to know right

546
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Speaker 2: away is that our guy?

547
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Speaker 4: If not, we got to move on. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So, I I know that the money in college football

549
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Speaker 8: and how much players are being paid as a controversial issue,

550
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Speaker 8: but like, take someone like Brandon Swordsby you're just talking

551
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Speaker 8: about he is going to make more money than shirdor

552
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Speaker 8: Sanders is going to make. I kind of like the

553
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Speaker 8: idea that the money that these kids are going to

554
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Speaker 8: make keeps them in college football longer so they actually

555
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Speaker 8: develop more, and that then maybe the players that are

556
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Speaker 8: supposed to make it to the NFL do go to

557
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Speaker 8: the NFL, and the ones that aren't still have a

558
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 8: good chunk of change, but they probably aren't gonna eventually

559
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 8: get there. The developed ones will be more apparent.

560
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Speaker 2: Well, but you have to stay three years in college football,

561
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: so you have a built in system that protects college

562
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Speaker 2: football from the standpoint of these names may bounce around,

563
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: but they stay. College basketball doesn't have that, so you

564
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: don't have any familiarity with college basketball, at least with football.

565
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: You go, oh, that guy used to be And you're right,

566
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: you might stay for your senior years instead of coming

567
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: out after your junior year in college football, but you're

568
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Speaker 2: already locked in for three years. Where college basketball, I'm

569
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: one and done. I mean, all of these guys we

570
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: looked at and we go, that guy's one and done.

571
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: All the marquee players one and done. Even the money

572
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: that you could make, and Cooper Flag reportedly was making

573
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Speaker 2: around two point six million dollars at Duke. He was

574
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Speaker 2: the highest paid player two point six Now what would

575
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Speaker 2: he be worth if he came back? What five million dollars?

576
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Maybe more than that. He wants to get into that

577
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Speaker 2: second contract in the NBA when he's going to get

578
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: sixty or seventy million dollars a year, Yes, but.

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Speaker 8: Maybe even still just staying for that extra year of development.

580
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 8: There's not the I get the rush to the second contract.

581
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 8: I definitely get that. However, there is something I think

582
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Speaker 8: there's something to be said about another year of development

583
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 8: rather than being pushed too early. You know, I they

584
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 8: if you you're leaving college football with a couple million

585
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 8: dollars in your pocket. There really isn't that same rush

586
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 8: to get there. It's like Ty Simpson and Alabama. You know,

587
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 8: greg Or was some of the who is it.

588
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: McCarran said, Hey, I would tell him to stay, and

589
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Speaker 2: you know, you need another year. He might be in

590
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Speaker 2: the transfer portal. He got hurt in that game against Indiana,

591
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: maybe a cracked rib, but it looked like he might

592
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: have been getting benched as well. And is he going

593
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: to transfer? Does he does he want to go into

594
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Speaker 2: the NFL? And I think McCarran said he would probably

595
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Speaker 2: be a fifth or sixth round quarterback, but that he

596
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: shouldn't stay. And not everybody has guidance though now we

597
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: think that, oh man, you know somebody, there's a lot

598
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: of people with a lot of agendas, who hey, I'd

599
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: go pro because people helping you with that decision might

600
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: be getting money from you with that decision. Yeah, palling.

601
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Speaker 9: Another great example is Carson Beck, who's a hot property

602
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 9: a year and a half ago. Then he really cooled

603
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Speaker 9: off as a draft prospect, you know, and parlayed a

604
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 9: big payday from Miami.

605
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Speaker 4: Well quinn Ewers as well.

606
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's working out for Quinn, but Texas

607
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: didn't want him to stay another year. I think he

608
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: wanted to stay another year. Like No, I think we're good. Uh, Arch,

609
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Speaker 2: it's it's Arch's term.

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Speaker 4: Did you choose baldness?

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Speaker 5: Everyone's you know, be like Mike. Everyone wanted to be

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Speaker 2: Reggie Miller full introduction. He was on the call for

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Speaker 2: the Warriors Clippers last night. Snoop Dogg joining you there

630
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Speaker 2: in the second. Yeah, I thought he did a good job.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was fun.

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Speaker 5: He did a great job. He was well prepared, He

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Speaker 5: did his homework, He came in all the coaches meetings,

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Speaker 5: he did pregame interviews. I think you guys saw with

635
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Speaker 5: Stephen Curry, he just wasn't showing up to be a

636
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 5: pretty face. He put in the work, and the game

637
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Speaker 5: helped because it was a great game. It was a

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Speaker 5: one possession game, last second opportunity for Jimmy Butler, Steph

639
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Speaker 5: had fouled out, and it was a game that the

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Speaker 5: Clippers obviously continued to need it because they got off

641
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 5: to that rough start six and twenty one. But if

642
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Speaker 5: won seven of eight, so it was a he did

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Speaker 5: his job.

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Speaker 2: Steve Kerr had some comments I don't know if it

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Speaker 2: was this past week or last week, where he's kind

646
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Speaker 2: of saying, hey, you know, try to win championships each year.

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Speaker 4: That's not going to happen anymore.

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Speaker 2: And I'm paraphrasing here, but it felt like there was

649
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Speaker 2: backlash from the Golden State fans who were like, wait

650
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Speaker 2: a minute, you know, kind of sounds like you're surrendering

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Speaker 2: that you don't have a championship caliber team.

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Speaker 4: Was he being correct in what he was saying?

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Speaker 5: Well, currently constructed. He's correct, they don't have a champion team.

654
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Speaker 5: They're just missing something, and I think why his The

655
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 5: fan base is upset. They're like, wait a minute, we

656
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 5: just traded to get Jimmy Butler. Wasn't that supposed to

657
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 5: be one of those missing pieces to help us get

658
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 5: back to the championship mountain. And when I look at

659
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: the Warriors and I just hope they're not wasting these

660
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: last two, three, four years for Stephen Curry because he

661
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 5: can still at a high level get you to the

662
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 5: promised Land. They just need players. And I equate it

663
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 5: to this, you need certain players for sixteen games, and

664
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 5: you need players for eighty two games. And Jimmy Butler,

665
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 5: Stephen Curry Draymond Green are sixteen game players. Get me

666
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: to the playoffs and then we'll take over. It's the grind,

667
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 5: is what's the problem for the Golden State Warriors. They

668
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 5: don't have enough score warning for eighty two games. Stephen

669
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 5: Curry can't do it like he used to do it

670
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 5: with Klay Thompson when they were younger, So the margin

671
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 5: of error is very small, and I think the fan

672
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 5: base is upset because you've got a young player like

673
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: Jonathan kaminga who's just sitting there collecting twenty two million,

674
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 5: who was supposed to be one of those players for

675
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 5: eighty two games and he's not delivering.

676
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: Man, his name comes up all the time in trade

677
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: talks all like for the last it feels like two

678
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: years at least.

679
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: Why don't they trade him?

680
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: I think they're exploring their options. I would be surprised

681
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 5: if he is a Warrior past the trade deadline, because

682
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: again I think the I think Golden State has to

683
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 5: make another trade for a player just to come off

684
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 5: the bench and get your buckets to give Step and Jimmy,

685
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: but or of some breathing room, because there's no way

686
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 5: they're going to make it to the finish line in

687
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 5: the Western Conference. This would go bode well if they

688
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 5: were in the Eastern Conference because there's really only two

689
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 5: maybe three teams playing at that high of the level.

690
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 5: But not in the Western Conference. You'll tax them too much.

691
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: Are you all in on the Clippers now? All of

692
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: a sudden, are the Clippers formidable?

693
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 7: Uh?

694
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 6: Yes?

695
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 5: The problem a lot like Golden State we saw last night.

696
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 5: They're the two oldest teams and they don't run a lot,

697
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 5: and they rely a lot on their half court offense,

698
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: which has been great lately. But more importantly, their defense

699
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 5: has stepped up. When they were last year, what made

700
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 5: them great was their defense, and I think over the

701
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 5: last eight ball games they have the best defense in

702
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 5: the league. Now, I know it's a small sample size,

703
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 5: but they've won seven of eight and it's because of

704
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 5: their defense. Can they continue to play like that? We'll see.

705
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 5: What helps. Is Kawhi's healthy and playing and you see

706
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 5: the numbers, But is he gonna go through one of

707
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 5: those stints where he plays one game, doesn't play right now?

708
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 5: He has to play. Harden didn't play last night because

709
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 5: of shoulder stiffness. But again, their margin of era, it's

710
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 5: very small because those guys can't take nights off because

711
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 5: there's not enough scoring on the back end of their roster.

712
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: Talking to Reggie Miller, he was on the call last

713
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: night the Warriors and the Clipper Steve Kerr getting thrown

714
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: out of that game. Yeah, Steve's not having a good year.

715
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 5: Well, and why do you say that?

716
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: He just seems like he's frustrated. You know, the Draymond

717
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: Green stuff. They're not you know, they're a little better

718
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: than average.

719
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

720
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: Maybe he's really coaching harder than he's ever had to coach.

721
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: Used to be easy and you just said go out

722
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: there and have some fun and shoot some threes.

723
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 4: Guys.

724
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 5: Again, that's why it's the beauty, you know, when you've

725
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 5: been to the mountaintop like Steve has been as a player,

726
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 5: it's won five chips four times. As a coach with

727
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: the Warriors, I think at times you can come become complacent,

728
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: and I think he's trying to show its fan base

729
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 5: as well as his team, if you want to continue

730
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 5: to be great, there's sacrifices that have to be made,

731
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 5: and there's tough choices that have to be said. And

732
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 5: the budding of head with Dreamond Green, you would be

733
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 5: surprised that happens all the time. I mean, you're a family,

734
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 5: and as long as those guys have been together and

735
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 5: all the wars that they've been through, I kind of

736
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 5: give them a long leash because I think they're allowed

737
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 5: to kind of speak to one another that way because

738
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 5: there's history there and I just hope it never comes

739
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 5: to a head because as Draymond Green is the perfect

740
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 5: player for this team because without him, I mean, he's

741
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: leads this team and assists point forward. The problem is

742
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: has been his offense because teams are just daring him

743
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: to shoot. And if you watch the game last night,

744
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 5: to start the game, he had three or four wide

745
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 5: open threes. Teammates two or three of those. The Warriors

746
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: are almost running away with this game because the momentum

747
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: would have been on their side. But it is what

748
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 5: it is.

749
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: You have coaches former players who become coaches, but it's

750
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: rare when a really successful player becomes a head coach.

751
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: You had Larry Bird there. But what is it about

752
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: the role player becoming a head coach over maybe an

753
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: all star kind of player becoming a head coach.

754
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 5: Well, I mean you look at JJ Reddick, Steve Kerk,

755
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 5: guys that were somewhat at the you say role player

756
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 5: or into the bench. I think they can look at all.

757
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: They can see what the star player goes through. They

758
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 5: can see what a role player who plays, you know,

759
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 5: twelve or fifteen minutes a game, and they can see

760
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 5: a guy who never sees the light of date and

761
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 5: he can kind of weave his way and act like

762
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 5: all three of those different proponents. And I think that's

763
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 5: what makes them successful because they can relate to all

764
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 5: three of them again playing for Larry Bird and Isaiah Thomas,

765
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 5: another Hall of Famer. Personally, for me it was a

766
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 5: joy because I played against those guys, I knew how

767
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 5: they prepared, and then to be coached from them. From

768
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 5: my standpoint, it was great. I don't know if it

769
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 5: was great for the younger players, but for us older

770
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 5: guys like Mark, Sam Perkins, Derek Backe. We all went

771
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 5: against Larry Legend. We respected him. There was a lot

772
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 5: of pressure to play for him, but it was worth

773
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 5: it because that's what we wanted, that's what we signed

774
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 5: up for.

775
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: Can you talk back to a Legend?

776
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: I think there's there's respect there. Look, I'm from you

777
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 5: know this military. There's no talking back. There's a chain

778
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 5: of there's got to be a chain of command. Now,

779
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: you may have disagreements, you may have arguments of practice,

780
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 5: but during a game, I don't think it never rose

781
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 5: to that you're right, I'm right, you're wrong. It never

782
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 5: rose to that. You got to be respectful to your coach.

783
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 5: And you can handle that stuff in the locker room.

784
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 5: You never want to do that on the bench shore

785
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 5: where other people can peer in and and know what

786
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: your family business is going on.

787
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 2: Trey Young used to be a big deal with the Hawks.

788
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: That was that was a good story. It was a

789
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: few years ago. He's celebrating again, the Knicks in the garden.

790
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: He's playing in the Eastern Conference Finals. His numbers look

791
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: really good. He's in his prime, and he's on the

792
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: trading block. What happened with this?

793
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 5: Here's the problem. Here's the problem, and sometimes it's getting

794
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 5: success too early. You mentioned it. I think his decline

795
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 5: really started after the Hawks went to the conference finals

796
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 5: and lost to the Milwaukee Bucks, the eventual champions, And

797
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 5: I think things came too easy for him. And again

798
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 5: I'm not in their practices. I don't follow them day

799
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 5: to day, but I hear things, and when you hear

800
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 5: things that players don't like playing with him. He doesn't

801
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 5: practice hard, he doesn't come early and work out. He

802
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 5: certainly doesn't stay late and work on his game. When

803
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 5: I hear comments like that, I hope they're not true,

804
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 5: because I think he is an unbelievable talent. He can

805
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 5: help a team out. The problem is he's small. He's

806
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 5: not going to grow. He's not very big. He's slight,

807
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 5: so he gets taken advantage of at the defensive end.

808
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 5: And if you're not gonna work on your game, you're

809
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 5: not gonna bulke up. Look at Stephen Curry. I mean

810
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: they were almost the same size at one point, and

811
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 5: you look at Curry now how much he has bulked up,

812
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 5: continues to work on his shot like it's going out

813
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 5: of business. I don't know if Trey works like that.

814
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's committed to working like that.

815
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 5: So if you're the Hawks, you have a decision to

816
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 5: make what can you get in return for him? And

817
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 5: the longer they wait, those kind of returns start to

818
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 5: go down. It's like the stock market. So but I

819
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 5: know we've seen him on misplay in New York. We

820
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 5: know he's an ice trade. We know what he can

821
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 5: deliver is what can you get for him? And going

822
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 5: full for how is Trey going to act wherever he goes?

823
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: Jokers out of the MVP conversation, SGA in the thunder

824
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: of lost what five of their last ten? Can we

825
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: somehow slip Cad Cunningham into the MVP conversation?

826
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: Yes, And I'm surprised more people are not speaking about kid.

827
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 5: We had a chance to do a game, up close

828
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 5: and personal, their last game on that long West coast

829
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 5: road trip versus the Lakers, and they beat the breaks

830
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 5: off the Lakers and Kate Cunningham look for those of

831
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 5: you who are late to the party. Overall number one

832
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 5: pick out of Oklahoma State and for his size at

833
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 5: six five sixty six, being a point guard controls the

834
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 5: whole action. And it helps now that Jalen Jurnham has

835
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 5: kind of grown into being that forced download for them.

836
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 5: They have a great one to connection and chemistry between

837
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 5: those two. He plays defense. Yeah, I think on the

838
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 5: back end, you've got Luca will be mentioned. It's unfortunate.

839
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 5: I don't know if Joker will qualify for those games.

840
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 5: SGA will be in the running. I don't think Giannis

841
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 5: is gonna qualify, but he'll have the type of numbers.

842
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 5: But Cade should certainly be in the discussion for MVP.

843
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 4: No question.

844
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just they're not a glamour team in a

845
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: glamour town.

846
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 8: Uh.

847
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: You know, Sports Center is not going to be leading

848
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: with Detroit, and you know they're they're the number one

849
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: seed right now. I mean they're they're they're gonna they're

850
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: gonna force feed you the Knicks, even the Celtics. But

851
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: Detroit's just not They're not gonna get national attention. And

852
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: that's a shame because he's averaging twenty seven to ten

853
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: and six for a team that's played that proof of

854
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: that last year was no fluke with.

855
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 5: Them second best record in the Association behind OKC. But

856
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 5: this is kind of on par for the Pistons, right

857
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 5: they were the bad boys, Isaiah. They had great players,

858
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 5: but they didn't get a lot of love back to

859
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 5: back champs. Same thing with Chauncey's team in two thousand

860
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: and four. It was five guys Tayshaun, Prince, Rip Hamilton,

861
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 5: Orsheed Wallace, Ben Wallace, but they weren't a sexy team.

862
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 5: What do they do? They won a championship. This current

863
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 5: Detroit team is cut from the same claw. They've got

864
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 5: one star on the verge of being a superstared kde

865
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 5: An up and becoming great young player and center in

866
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: Jalen Durham. But you think, well, who else is really

867
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: on this team? Isaiah Stewart is the Ben Wallace of

868
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 5: the team, the tough guy, but you couldn't name anyone else. JB.

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Speaker 5: Bickersteph is doing a great job and yes, everyone likes

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Speaker 5: to push, and rightfully so Jalen Brunson and the Knicks,

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Speaker 5: but those are the two top teams in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 5: And look, they went head to head last night and

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Speaker 5: what happened. The Pistons smacked him. So that was a

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Speaker 5: message game because last year during the playoffs, Brunson was

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Speaker 5: doing all the kissing to the fans after hitting threes,

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Speaker 5: and he wanted to make the Pistons, wanted to make

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Speaker 5: a statement that is going to be very difficult this

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Speaker 5: year for you to come in this building and be successful.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you got the Spurs in the thunder next Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: Is this becoming the robbery? Is this becoming one of

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Speaker 5: the best roberries?

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Speaker 4: I hope it is.

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Speaker 5: I hope so too. Because to beat OKAC, you've got

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Speaker 5: to have a number of things. You've got to have

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Speaker 5: guards that are committed to pick up full That's exactly

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Speaker 5: what the Spurs have and Castle Basel deeron Fox is

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Speaker 5: one of those closers. And Wimby they have Chip the champs.

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Speaker 5: The Spurs have Wimby is two young teams and there's

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a crack. Now in a seven

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Speaker 5: game series, I probably would still take OKAC right now

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Speaker 5: because of experience. But the beauty of this is the

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Speaker 5: Spurs aren't afraid of them, and a lot of teams

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Speaker 5: are afraid of Okay.

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Speaker 4: See, I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, great to catch up with you. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you soon.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, reg, I appreciate your Theodore.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year's Dannett's Reggie Miller Hall of Famer