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Speaker 1: Oh good time, Steve Tasper touchdown, touchdown, tostop time. Hello there,

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Speaker 1: welcome to One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. We're

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Speaker 1: by the group in the other room. And look who's here.

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Speaker 1: Steve Pasker is back. First time Spirit Murphy. You were

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Speaker 1: here in Spirit and on the line yesterday from the

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Speaker 1: gym Kepty Golf tournament. Great to have you back, Steve,

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Speaker 1: Mission Mission, Brownie does a great job. Love to have Brownie.

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Speaker 1: It's a different show with Chris Brownie. We're happy to

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Speaker 1: have you back here in studio where I know where

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Speaker 1: you been. Give us a recap. You were off Friday

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Speaker 1: playing one hundreds of golf. I need a break for

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Speaker 1: my weekend, seriously, man, Friday was one hundred holes of golf, right, so,

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Speaker 1: which wrecked me for the rest of the quality weekend

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Speaker 1: that I had planned. Saturday. Uh, Saturday, my son was

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Speaker 1: home from for like twenty thirty six hours and goes

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Speaker 1: to school in Savannah, Georgia. Came home for thirty six hours.

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Speaker 1: Now he's at his second day of work in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: So he was home for thirty six hours and drove

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Speaker 1: my wife took him over there and helped him drive

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Speaker 1: you know, mowing my lawn a Saturday night thing. Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: I had a dinner at Chefs. Bruce Thurman, Jim will Wolford,

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Speaker 1: Darryl Tally and Chris Moore and I and Scott Birch

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Speaker 1: told the former PR guy when back in those teams,

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Speaker 1: we all sat down at Chefs and we were all

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Speaker 1: for Bruce and UH had a great time, great you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously sensational food, and we told stories about Bruce and

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Speaker 1: they recorded some of it. That was they told us,

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Speaker 1: the producers, as you know, you're you're a TV guy, right.

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Speaker 1: It was a four camera shoot they had. It was

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Speaker 1: I mean it was you know, so it's all about

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Speaker 1: at Ted's for Brett for lunch. Do that meet at

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Speaker 1: lunch surprise birthday party for Thurman's wife Patty downtown. And

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Speaker 1: I lay down, and I totally totally blew off Jim's

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Speaker 1: gallo on Sunday night. When you umc right, I didn't? Yes,

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Speaker 1: which was how was that? It was good? It's fine? Yeah, same,

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Speaker 1: it's good side Morris right. I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about yesterday in the golf tournament. But ye, why

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Speaker 1: we can. Chris Brown is standing by outside at practice.

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Speaker 1: Are gonna shut down practice to the media in a

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown bills inside first, huh, you should have done

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Speaker 1: that first. I didn't know you're gonna give me that long. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Bills Insider, Buffalo Bills dot Com. Brownie, are

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Speaker 1: you still there? I am here, Yeah, I was out

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Speaker 1: very much for there. But but yeah, they're just getting

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Speaker 1: by my account and Chris. One thing that coach McDermott

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Speaker 1: all voluntary until next week. John McDermott was asked today

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Speaker 1: so far this spring. Yeah, it's been outstanding, it really has.

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Speaker 1: And even the guys that are hurt, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: they're going through they're maximizing their treatment opportunities. And our

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Speaker 1: trainers have done a fantastic job and our strength staff

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Speaker 1: making sure that what they can do they get done.

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Speaker 1: And so it's not been from a lack of effort

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Speaker 1: or want to including the participation, it's been outstanding all season.

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Speaker 1: That's good and that's good to hear him say that too.

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Speaker 1: And they also did acknowledge though, and Chris Brown pointed

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Speaker 1: this out the injuries they had and what did I say,

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Speaker 1: thirteen players either limited or not participating today. Thirteen players

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Speaker 1: on the injury list. That's a lot. And McDermot acknowledged

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Speaker 1: today that that means something. And the positive is it

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Speaker 1: means reps for guys Steve and that guys like the

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Speaker 1: rookie it ends right, Tommy Sweeney and Dawson Knox are

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Speaker 1: getting reps that they would not get when after those injuries. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it gives them an opportunity to kind of get

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Speaker 1: the huddle, get used to working with you know, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen and Lashawn McCoy in the backfield. You know, get

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Speaker 1: used to working with the number ones. To see how

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Speaker 1: that pace is. I think the big adjustment is and

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Speaker 1: it's it happened to me in my career. Kind of

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Speaker 1: remember feeling like when it goes back and Tyler Craft

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Speaker 1: there watching, going, wow, I wish you know, am I

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Speaker 1: gonna get cut because of this? Now there's not as

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Speaker 1: much room up there now and you start questioning what

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Speaker 1: you did. But it does help. It does help, hearing

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Speaker 1: those reps being a part of it. It's just part

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Speaker 1: of that learning process that helps these guys a bit

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Speaker 1: more and more comfortable. More comfortable they are, the better

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Speaker 1: they play. Why we got you here, Steve? I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you this question because it's sort of a

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Speaker 1: They're not diametrically opposed. But here's my point. We're three

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Speaker 1: months away from the start of the regular season, just

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Speaker 1: about right September eight, I believe it is three months away,

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Speaker 1: so there's a lot of time. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: you got two more OTAs after this and three practices

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Speaker 1: next week, and the next time they get on the

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Speaker 1: I feel like, Wow, there's plenty of time until the season.

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Speaker 1: On the other end, I feel like, well, they better

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Speaker 1: start getting some stuff done because they're almost running out

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Speaker 1: of springtime practices here. After next week they'll be gone

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Speaker 1: know which way I come out on that. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to here's the thing, it's hard to quantify how good

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Speaker 1: or how much it helps in this preseason this way

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Speaker 1: the stuff that when they come back next week in

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Speaker 1: mini camp they build on top of. And then the

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Speaker 1: stuff when they come back to the first couple of

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Speaker 1: So they build and it just puts you that much further.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that at the end of the

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Speaker 1: no way of telling. But the earlier start you get,

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Speaker 1: the quicker you become more comfortable, and the quicker you

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Speaker 1: become more comfortable, the better you play, and the more

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Speaker 1: they trust you, and the more trust you get with

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Speaker 1: your teammates. And then maybe the small subtleties that happen

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Speaker 1: within a huddle call where you guy, where you hear

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, why'd you say it like that? Or

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Speaker 1: what's the difference here? What are you doing? It's something

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Speaker 1: down or something happened. You know. It's those little subtle

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Speaker 1: things that that are part of a human interaction when

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Speaker 1: you're trying to talk in a different language, that come

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Speaker 1: into play later in the season and maybe by starting,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get four extra reps. Yeah, in a

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Speaker 1: minicamp the down the line. You don't know. It's a

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Speaker 1: trickle effect. It's it's incomprehensible, it's it's unquantifiable if it

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Speaker 1: makes a difference or not. But all I know this,

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Speaker 1: the only way it can make a difference for the

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Speaker 1: better is if you do it. You know, yeah, do it,

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Speaker 1: you do it. You'll never know the difference. You never

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Speaker 1: know that you missed out on a touchdown or a

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Speaker 1: play that made a difference in the game. Right, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the point you just wish you had it when

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Speaker 1: you don't have it and you don't have it. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we talk about the show. Kyle Williams coming in here

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Speaker 1: at two. McDermott talked about the leadership this morning, and

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about leadership and we want to

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Speaker 1: get your thoughts on with Kyle gone now off the

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Speaker 1: roster here today, but off the roster who emerges as

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Speaker 1: a leader for that Buffalo defense. We're gonna talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll show you our Twitter poll when we come back.

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Speaker 1: We'll here McDermott says about a couple of candidates for that.

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Speaker 1: All of this. When we return, we're just getting rolling.

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Speaker 1: Steve is back in studio with us. It is One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by KLT of Health from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back, One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live from One Goals Drive, John Murphy and Steve Taskers

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Speaker 1: in studio with us today. Bills are on the field

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Speaker 1: for OTA session number eight two more to come Thursday, Friday.

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Speaker 1: This week, they'll have a conditioning session coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So the topic today, and yes, it's because Kyle Williams

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Speaker 1: is here. Kyle Williams one of the great leaders really

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Speaker 1: in recent Bill's history. We'll talk with him about this

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Speaker 1: when he joins us at two o'clock on the field

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Speaker 1: watching practice over the last few minutes. According to Chris Bound,

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Speaker 1: he either has or will meet and speak to the

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Speaker 1: Bills in a team session today. So we know where

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Speaker 1: the Bills are at as far as leadership and Kyle

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Speaker 1: Williams is a void in leadership obviously. Now you know

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Speaker 1: that Lorenzo Alexander, our friend on the show Frequent Guests,

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Speaker 1: is plays the role of a leader. We know that,

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Speaker 1: but our question today is with Kyle Gone. This is

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll with Kyle Gone, which player on defense

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Speaker 1: will emerge as a leader for the Buffalo Bills. We'd

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Speaker 1: like to hear from you on this too. The phone

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Speaker 1: line's open eighth three five fifty and toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Which player

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Speaker 1: on defense for the Bills will emerge as a leader.

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Speaker 1: We put a couple of suggestions up on the Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: One of them a second year linebacker trem Maine Edmunds.

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Speaker 1: More on him from Sean McDermot in a minute. One

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Speaker 1: of them Micah Hide, veteran safety. He just led his

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Speaker 1: team to that big softball benefit Sunday downtown. One of

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Speaker 1: them and McDermott I was thinking about this name, and

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Speaker 1: then McDermott brought it up in his news conference today,

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Speaker 1: so we threw it up there. Star Lotu Lalay, whose

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Speaker 1: leadership I think is obviously unappreciated by the fans who

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Speaker 1: have voted so far on the Twitter pole and maybe

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Speaker 1: unappreciated outside the locker room. We'll see. And then other

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Speaker 1: is six percent. Which player on defense emerges as a leader?

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Speaker 1: Four hundred votes in so far. That's the Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: That's what we'd like to get the discussion going with.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight h three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker can't wait to weigh in. He thinks this

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Speaker 1: is a bad Twitter poll. It is, first of all,

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Speaker 1: seventy four percent, and twenty percent is ninety four percent

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Speaker 1: plus one is ninety five percent. Then you have six

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Speaker 1: percent for other. That's one hundred and one percent on

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Speaker 1: our poll. So first of all, I think they rounded

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Speaker 1: my thought, we totally messed this Twitter poll up. And

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Speaker 1: as I blame myself, I should have stood my round.

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Speaker 1: I thought we should have put down Tremaine, Edmondster, Davis White,

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Speaker 1: ed Oliver, three first round draft picks of the Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott era. Which one of those guys is a long

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Speaker 1: term leader? You know what I mean? I know what

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Speaker 1: you mean. I don't starlotls personality doesn't lend itself to

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Speaker 1: let's hear what Sean McDermott said about it. One of

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Speaker 1: the comments Sean McDermott made today. He was asked about

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Speaker 1: star Latu La Lay again, Kyle's gone. Where does the

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Speaker 1: leadership come from? Sean McDermott got talking about it today,

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Speaker 1: Star La Tula Lay, he claims, the coach claims the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Buffalo Bills claims that Latulae is

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Speaker 1: becoming and has become a good veteran leader for the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. It's a little bit um ironic for me

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Speaker 1: with Starr because you know he was once a rookie

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Speaker 1: with me in Carolina. And Dwan Edwards who played here

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Speaker 1: years ago, right, a great player, a great person, helped

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Speaker 1: Shephard star and now stars on a role to help

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Speaker 1: mentors someone else and in this case ed and it

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Speaker 1: won't just be started. Will be a number of guys

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Speaker 1: in that room that can help it and and so um.

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Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, though, it's

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Speaker 1: got to do it himself. You know, he's got to

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Speaker 1: take ownership of it. He used to experience Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's so watching just the habits really that come come

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Speaker 1: with being a professional. What time you get in the building,

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Speaker 1: what time you leave film watching? When do I lift weights?

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Speaker 1: When do I get a massage? What do I doing

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Speaker 1: on the weekend? Being a twenty four hour professional football

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Speaker 1: player as opposed to Okay, I'm in the building for

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Speaker 1: eight hours and or whatever it is. Um, there's a

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Speaker 1: understanding that it's a it's all that you know, all day,

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Speaker 1: all night commitment, not just it's a twenty four hour commitment,

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Speaker 1: the day and then you know, um, you know I'm

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Speaker 1: outside the building and this is what I do. So UM,

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Speaker 1: it's important that habits that precede the winning are being

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Speaker 1: built the right way and in a timely fashion for

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Speaker 1: these young players. You're not buying it. I believe it.

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Speaker 1: And there's no question. You don't have to be a

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Speaker 1: raw raw you know, guy who talks a lot verbal

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Speaker 1: to be a leader, no question about it. I've played

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Speaker 1: with a lot of guys who were leaders, who weren't

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy who was always saying something, always

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Speaker 1: saying the guys always getting in the guy's ear. They

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Speaker 1: it wasn't that way. Star Lotulelee is certainly a quality player,

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Speaker 1: that in and of itself gives him the platform to

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Speaker 1: do it with his play, with his film study. And

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of guys who have been leaders

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Speaker 1: because for when they when they say something, it's important

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Speaker 1: and it's insightful, and it's intelligent and it's right on point.

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Speaker 1: For another thing is they don't talk about themselves or anything.

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Speaker 1: The coaches talk about them all the time. You get

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Speaker 1: a nice job here, what do you do there? That

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Speaker 1: the conversation that he has with the coach over what

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Speaker 1: he was thinking, why he was doing it, and stuff,

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Speaker 1: When you coach a star, the less the lesser players

638
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: are sitting there listening getting coach too, at least the

639
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: smart ones are. And that's how you can be a

640
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: leader as well, just because of the example you set

641
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: and the way the coaches interact with you. That, and plus,

642
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: like Sean said, how you work, how you go about

643
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: your work when you're in the building, when you do things,

644
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: when how you handle your schedule and your free time,

645
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: what you do away from the field. All of that stuff,

646
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, shouts the kind of player you're going to

647
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: be in the player you want to be, more so

648
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: than if you stand on a stool in the in

649
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: the locker room talking every way. The fact that McDermott

650
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: talked about lotulay and he's going to talk in a

651
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: minute here, we'll play a sound bite where he talks

652
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: about the Jermaine Edmunds emerging as a leader second year player.

653
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: But the fact that he's he's um talking about this,

654
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: he asked about it, I see, indicates him that he's

655
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: thinking about it, especially with Kyle here today. That's what

656
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: kind of got us going on it. Kyle's here and

657
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: it's like we are going to miss him, and we

658
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: are going to miss him on the field, but they

659
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: are going to miss him as a leader in the

660
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: locker room too. And that's how this our question came about.

661
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: But it's pretty clear that mcdermot's given this some thought,

662
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't you agree? Yeah? Absolutely, And that's what I don't think.

663
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: This is the first time since Kyle's left. He thought

664
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: about it. Before they signed Star lutu La, he knew

665
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: what kind of player he was, He knew the kind

666
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: of person he was. That was the first thing on

667
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: his list when Starr was becoming a free agent. They

668
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: targeted him early because of that, because they knew that

669
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: he's got that in him. I'm not saying that he's

670
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: going to be the same kind of leader as Kyle,

671
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: but certainly could be just as important. And I think

672
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: these early season OTAs, you never know who's gonna rise up.

673
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: You never know who's gonna turn into a guy that

674
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: wow on, that's a guy I'm glad is on our team.

675
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: Who knew Lorenzo Alexander was going to be the guy

676
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: he is? Yeah, he was an afterthought for the Rex

677
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: Ryan regime and now you know what would you do

678
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: without him? The guys phenomenal has been a phenomenal addition

679
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: to this club in the locker room and on the field.

680
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: So there are more guys like that to a discover

681
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: and Starlo tu Lelee as a guy who was face it.

682
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: Last year was his first year in the system, and

683
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: you know when you see the second labs, just like

684
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: being a rookie, he was a new player and a

685
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: new team. Maybe this year he changes his stance a

686
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: little bit and becomes something more. Which player on the

687
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: Bills defense will emerge as a leader? Now with Kyle Gunn,

688
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: give us a call and we'll discuss eight oh three

689
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

690
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. What about the second year linebacker

691
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds doesn't appear to be extremely vocal, but he's

692
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: vocal when he has to relay the defensive signals. McDermott

693
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: talked about him and he told us today, the head

694
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: coach of the Bills told us that Tremaine Edmonds is

695
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: slowly quietly emerging as a leader on that Buffalo defense.

696
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: I've watched him take leadership steps this offseason since he's

697
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: been back, and some of that means Lorenzo has to

698
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: kind of give up some of that in that linebacker room,

699
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: and that's that's a very unselfish approach by probably our

700
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: biggest leader on our football team. Is to hand or

701
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: is to pass that torch in some ways to Tremaine,

702
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: and that's a side of a good football team. When

703
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: you're an unselfish team and you have a bunch of

704
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: unselfish guys, that's that's a good quality to have. It

705
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: sounds like that's a work in progress for Tremaine, but

706
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: time well spent. I would think to kind of foster

707
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: his role as a leader, huh. And what you hear

708
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: about it, And you know, we kind of observe and

709
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: we kind of listen to what people say about what

710
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: Tremaine's doing. And I can't I can't think of a

711
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: different player who another player on the team who every

712
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: virtually every player that was here a year ago said

713
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: made bigger strides in his game than Tremaine Edmonds did.

714
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to think about a guy who

715
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: got drafted when he's nineteen and now it's twenty, now

716
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: he's twenty one. I mean, yeah, how young he is,

717
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: and how fast he grew and how quickly it happened,

718
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: and the change and really it was from the big

719
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: end of the season what he became from the beginning

720
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: of the season. It was an enormous leap. I thought,

721
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: new position and you talk about the guys are talking

722
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: about the last eight games he put together as the Bills.

723
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: For the Bills and on defense, he was a completely

724
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: different player and a completely different presence on the field

725
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: than he was at the beginning of the season, and

726
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: he got to think that's going to continue to happen.

727
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: So I'm really I think Tremaine is the answer. I

728
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: thought maybe, well, like I said, I thought maybe the

729
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: other two first round draft picks and McDermott aer might

730
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: have something to say about this. But I loves White, yeah,

731
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: I do. Do you see him as a leader in

732
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: that room on the defense? I think he I think,

733
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: certainly think he's got a big voice. I think he's

734
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: one of those guys. You know, he's a fun love

735
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: you know how he is. He's a yeah, you know,

736
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: you can't shut him up. Yeah. So I think that's

737
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why, Yeah, he's going to be

738
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: a guy people listen to merely because he's always gonna

739
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: have something to say. I think it's going to be

740
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: interesting to see what ed Oliver does. We've already seen

741
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle on this team for the last decade

742
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: become a true leader and a mature member of the organization,

743
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: a guy who sets the tone. What kind of guys

744
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: at Oliver gonna be here six weeks. Yeah, he's been

745
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: how's that? You know, how do you even know? You

746
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: don't know about you really don't. You have no clue

747
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: right now. He's just trying to tread water. So all

748
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: of those players, Tremaine, Tredevious, and Ed three first rounders,

749
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: you would think in a perfect world, are going to

750
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: be here for over a decade. You know, we're gonna

751
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: get to know them really well, like we already know

752
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: Tredevious and now we're really kind of feel like we

753
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: know Tremaine. It's gonna be fun to see them evolve

754
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: over the course of their career, hopefully for a long,

755
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: long and illustrious career. It's a Twitter question today which

756
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: player on defense for the Bills will emerge as a leader.

757
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: Love to hear your voice if you want to give

758
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: us a call. We got phone's open eight three five

759
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

760
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: two five fifty who whomever it is. McDermott made it

761
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: clear today, this news conference today that he thinks this

762
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo roster has good veteran leadership already. Here's what he said. Yeah,

763
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: the strong veteran presence is important, and I would say

764
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: we're not there yet. Um. You know, we looked at

765
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: some opportunities this offseason and there's still some uh some

766
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: room to improve in that area. Um. In terms of

767
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: a leader in every room. UM. That said, I think

768
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: we have improved our roster, uh in that in that regard, um.

769
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: And I would say with young players and time on task,

770
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know I read the list of injuries.

771
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: You know, it's how do you develop? And it's tough

772
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: to develop the continuity that we need to when you're

773
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: when you're when you've got this number of guys who

774
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: aren't practicing or who are missing significant time right now. So, um,

775
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: but that's that's the handword dealt. We work with it.

776
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: We control what we can can roll and go out

777
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: there and and accomplish the objectives that we need to

778
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: accomplish today. So as mc dermott makes it pretty clear

779
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: they're working on it right and he's tried to put

780
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: a leader in each position, group, meeting room. And we'll

781
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: see one thing, you can't you tell me, I don't

782
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: think you can draft a player or sign a free

783
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: agent and say you be the leader. That's not how

784
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: it works right, that's not organics. That's not how it works.

785
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: You pick a guy and you've heard me say this, Murph,

786
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: it's not It's not about getting guys to listen to

787
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: what you say and falling in nine behind and doing

788
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: what you say. It's about being the type of person,

789
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: the type of professional away from the field, on the field,

790
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms, just out, and about being the

791
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: kind of guy that inspires others that guys want to

792
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: be like. They want to join in with, they want

793
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: to be with you, you know, they want to be

794
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: on your team, they want to be in with the

795
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: cause that you're promoting. You know that. It's about being

796
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: that kind of guy in every aspect of your life.

797
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: Those guys are hard to find. They don't just you know,

798
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: you don't just a guy in the draft and say hey,

799
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: you're going to do this for us, okay, And it

800
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. It's got to be who the

801
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: guy is, and you've got to find guys like that,

802
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: and the best way to cultivate it is by having

803
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: a guy like that in a room where guys are

804
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: trying to learn, and that's who they learn from, and

805
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: they can become guys like that they become and they

806
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: see the importance of it and how to act. It's

807
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: that he's got the right I mean, Sean McDermot is

808
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: doing it the right way. You're doing it organically, you're

809
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: picking the right guys. You're only you're picking a ton

810
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: of guys who have those characteristics and you're hoping all

811
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: of them can play well. But the ones who do

812
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: are the ones you hang on too well. You're expecting

813
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: to emerge as a leader for the Buffalo defense. Jim

814
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: on the line from Fredonia has a thought on that. Jim,

815
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with this. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Him.

816
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: I have to agree with Steve what he just said

817
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: about them building properly through the draft and bringing in

818
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: guys that have character that actually makes sense for the team.

819
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: And my biggest guy on that line, he is somebody

820
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: who had on your show last week, was Trent Murphy

821
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: and his veteran leadership because he's come back from injury.

822
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: He played hard and he looks like he puts it

823
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: in the work off the field as well. And guys

824
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: like that Latoula and Murphy and Alexander are teaching these

825
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: young guys to be leaders. So down the road and

826
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: each and every one of those rooms, they're going to

827
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: have somebody that worked with one of these guys. I

828
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: like Trent Murphy because he's come from different systems and

829
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: he put the time in it. He worked and I

830
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: think in the end though, you're going to see somebody

831
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: very much like Trymillion Edwins be that defensive leader because

832
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: he's going to be the focal point. So they're all

833
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: going to have to look at him down the road.

834
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: Good point to him. See how much the fact that

835
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: Edmonds and he did it last year relays the defensive

836
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: signals from the sideline. So his voice is when they

837
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: hear on the field during games. That's got to have

838
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: something to say about his voice, you know, in the

839
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: locker room, off the field, right, people who are in

840
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: the habit on defensive listening to what you say you

841
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: get in the habit or hearing what he says. Yeah,

842
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: that's right. And that's one of the reasons too, why

843
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: you want that type of guy we've talked at length about.

844
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he is a humble, hard working, knowledge thirsty

845
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: young athlete who's really working hard in every aspect. I

846
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: mean he is a I mean he is an old soul.

847
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he is doing it the hard way. He

848
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: is sitting down by himself, going over flash cards, he's

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Speaker 1: watching film. And when you get to the point, here's

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Speaker 1: another thing too. Even if he wasn't a guy who

851
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: liked to talk a lot, the simple fact of the

852
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: matter that he calls those defenses and gets guys and

853
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: makes checks. At the light of scrimmage, he gets used

854
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: to communicating with his teammates. So even if early in

855
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: his career he's not a real talker, a year or

856
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: two down the road, it's going to become natural for

857
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: him to talk to those guys. So it does. You

858
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: can't you know, you guys learn, you change. You evolved

859
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: throughout your life as an adult, as a young guy.

860
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Certainly as a young player, you evolve. So there's no

861
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: question that Tremaine is in a perfect position to become

862
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Speaker 1: a leader like you know, a great player like ray Lewis,

863
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: a great player like Ed Reid, or a great player

864
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Speaker 1: like Rodney Harrison, one of those vocal guys. Because they

865
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 1: make checks and they because they make calls, and because

866
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: they're communicating all the time during the game on the field,

867
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Speaker 1: it's natural for them to do that in a locker room.

868
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: We're talking about leadership on the Buffalo defense. One of

869
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: the team's all time leaders on defense just retired. Coming

870
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: on our show with two o'clock. Kyle Williams will be

871
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: right here in Studio two. That's what brings this up.

872
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: Well here more from me. We'll read some of the

873
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Speaker 1: tweets from the tweet sheet and take more phone calls.

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00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: Which player on defense will emerge as a leader this

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00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: year for the Buffalo Bills eight three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty to

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Speaker 1: the number to call. Come on back. We're just getting

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Speaker 1: rolled in here. One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health

879
00:42:46,200 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

880
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: back One goal Slide from One Goal's Drive. John Murphy

881
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: Steep taskers back with us. Happy to have you here, Steve,

882
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: you're you're an invaluable part of the show. It is

883
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: good to be back, okay, I do. It's great to

884
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: be sitting here with you and join my work and

885
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: your lunch and my lunch. The tweet sheet our question,

886
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: which player on defense will emerge as a leader for

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00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills we got the tweet sheet brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the

889
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Tiffany Daniels leads us off on the tweet

890
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: sheet today. Tiffany says Lorenzo was still the primary leader.

891
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: His experience and knowledge speak volumes of what he brings

892
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: to the team. Tremaine, to me, is the leader in training,

893
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: absorbing and learning from Lorenzo in the future, defensive captain

894
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: for many years to come. Yeah, that's a good way

895
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: to look at it. I guess we approached this question

896
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: today like, obviously Lorenzo is the leader on defense. We're

897
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: looking for an emerging leader, and I think Tremaine is

898
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: a good selection for that, right. Yeah, it's it seems

899
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: like an easy question when you look at it in

900
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: the context of where the team is today. We tried

901
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: to think about it. You know, what's it gonna be

902
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: like in three years, four years, five years, if this

903
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: team does get to the point where where allus wanted

904
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: to be a perennial contender and playoffs kind of like, yeah,

905
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: we plan on making the playoffs, that kind of thing

906
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: where they're expected to make the playoffs, where they go

907
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: into games where they're the favorite in these games, where

908
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: they they've got an established quarterback in a defense that's

909
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: solid and a plan and they you know they do.

910
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: They kind of seem to be an upper echelon type

911
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: of organization. That's where you want them to be. If

912
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: three to five years or maybe this year starting whatever,

913
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: what's it gonna look like. Who's that guy gonna be?

914
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: We tried to look down the road. Certainly Lorenzo has

915
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: been that for the last three or four years, but

916
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: long term, past the end of Lorenzo's career, past the

917
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: end of were these older guys who are on the

918
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: team now these young guys. Who's the new generation? Who's

919
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: it going to be in the next five ten years,

920
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the next Well, let's say Lenex, Kyle Williams.

921
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you the kind of guy. You're looking for,

922
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: a productive player that rallies guys, and that's, uh, that's

923
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: what we're kind of asking. So yeah, we and Tiffany

924
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: wrote in Lorenzo, but you know, Lorenzo's in his mid thirties.

925
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't have another ten years, that's right. I think

926
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Speaker 1: Michael Hyde is a good selection for this, and so

927
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Speaker 1: does the caller on the line, Cliff and Clarence hy Cliff,

928
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: go ahead, you around the air. Hey, good to talk

929
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: to you guys. I absolutely think MICA's a great candidate

930
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: for this UM just you know, the way he's performed

931
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: since he's come here, He's gone from a kind of

932
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: a part time role to fully developing into an all star.

933
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: But um, I was at the event on Sunday and

934
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: I saw the way that the team rallied around his

935
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: charity event and just the leadership he showed there, his

936
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: initiative in bringing together a bunch of guys, um, the

937
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: way that they supported him from the coach just as

938
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Speaker 1: outpouring of support. I think clearly they recognize that he

939
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: is a leader, and they are they are just they're

940
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: just they're just support in him. Yeah, and that was

941
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: a great thing to see. It was an awesome eventum,

942
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: But I just think Micaer really stepped up there along

943
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: with Jordan Poyer. You know, our our our d dbs

944
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: are are a great group of guys, but I really

945
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: saw Mike as stepping forward there. Yeah. It's a great

946
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: observation that the charity event where it was so well attended.

947
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: To forget about my fans, the guys. I mean, the

948
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: team showed up. That's huge, and it does say a

949
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: lot when the guys effectively rally around him even when

950
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: he's not on the field. That speaks volumes. And I

951
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: think he's a great He's a great. Uh, he's a

952
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: great choice. And he I think he's already sitting right

953
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat of that. I think right now

954
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: he may be maybe the most him along with Lorenzo Um.

955
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: He's as high up there on the leadership ladders you get.

956
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: He's a shortlist, So yeah, I would agree with that.

957
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna be here a while, and he has played

958
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: extremely well in his first three years here in Buffalo.

959
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: All right, a break, Karey. When we come back, we're

960
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: going to talk to a friend of ours, Jack Armstrong,

961
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: Lewiston resident, a great Bills fan, longtime season ticketoader, comes

962
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: to every home game that he can. Jack is also

963
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: one of the radio analysts for the Toronto Raptors broadcast team.

964
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: And we'll talk with Jack about the NBA Finals. He's

965
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: in Oakland for tomorrow night's Game three the NBA Finals.

966
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: Looking forward to it. Jack Armstrong. When we return, come

967
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: on back. One Bill's live from One Bill's Drive and

968
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio Buffalo Bills Radio Network Stories Update.

969
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: The update comes from One Bill's Drive where the Buffalo

970
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Bills are at work as we speak out on the

971
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: field for today's OTA session. OTA number eight today. Treat

972
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: not practicing today. Offensive lineman Tian Secki, Eli haroldd J. Gaines.

973
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: From the defense, Tyler Croft tight end, wide receivers Cole Beasley,

974
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Zain Joe tight end Jason Krum. Limited practice today for

975
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: centers Mitch Morrison, Russell Bodine, offensive lineman Quentin Spain, defensive

976
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: tackle Ed Oliver, the first round pick. Also defensive backs

977
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: Rafael Bush and Tarren Johnson. They are limited today. Bodine

978
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: with the shoulder, Mitch Morse with the core muscle, wearing

979
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: the red non contact jerseys today. That's a step up

980
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: from where they have been. OTA number eight two more

981
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: to come Thursday, Friday this week and one week from today.

982
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: It is day one of the Bill's three day mandatory minicamp.

983
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: Four preseason games too many, according to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.

984
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: He said at the Jim Kelly Golf Tournament yesterday that

985
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: he wants to reduce the preseason schedule. This way at

986
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: a time on the league and the Players Association have

987
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: started early talks on a new collective bargatine agreement. Former

988
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive tackle Gerald McCoy has agreed to

989
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: a contract with the Carolina Panthers, six time Pro bowler

990
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: getting a one year deal with up to ten million

991
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: that includes a four million dollar signing bonus. Patrick Peterson

992
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: returned to the Arizona Cardinals OTA's yesterday for the first

993
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: times his six game suspension was announced. Team trying to

994
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: get to its eight time Pro bowler prepared for the

995
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: season and get ready for a new defense under new

996
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Vance Joseph Detroy. Lions kick off their three

997
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: day mandatory mini camp today. Defensive tackle Damon snax Harrison

998
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: and cornerback Darius Slay are skipping the mandatory miniicamp they

999
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: want new contracts. The Buston Bruins and the Stanley Cup

1000
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: Finals could be without captain Zananio Chara for Game five.

1001
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: He took a puck to the face during Boston's four

1002
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: two loss to Saint Louis last night. Game five is

1003
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: set for Thursday night in Boston series tied to two

1004
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: wins apiece and the NBA Finals the Golden State Warriors

1005
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: home against Toronto tomorrow night, Game three, that series tied

1006
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: at one winnipiece. That series is what we're gonna talk

1007
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: about right now. We have with us on the line

1008
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: from Oakland from the NBA Finals. Longtime Bills fan, longtime

1009
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: resident of Lewiston. He is mister basketball in Canada. Happy

1010
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: to have our buddy Jack Armstrong on the line with us. Jack,

1011
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: Tom Murphy and Steve Tasker in Buffalo. Thanks for doing

1012
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: this with us, Murph, Steve so much for having me

1013
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: on and pleasure to be on with you guys. I'm

1014
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: actually in San Francisco right now. As you guys know,

1015
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: you only go to Oaklo when you have to. I

1016
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: did hear that. I thought we should start jetting. I

1017
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: gotta go ahead. I gotta go over the bridge in

1018
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: a few hours for practice, but here as long as

1019
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: I can. Yeah, I want to start and just step.

1020
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: People would say, why you guys talking basketball on this

1021
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: football show. Our listeners should know what a botified Bills

1022
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: man and season ticker. Remember you are you are all

1023
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: about the Bills in the offseason aren't you. Absolutely I

1024
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: get ticked off when the Raptors schedule comes out. We

1025
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: play a lot of Sunday afternoon games, and when it

1026
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: messes up my Sunday routine are going to the games,

1027
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: it really disappoints me. So I try to get to

1028
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: as many Bills games as I can. Usually make a

1029
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: road trip at some point during the year as well.

1030
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: And if I'm not, I mean I've I've been on

1031
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: road trips with the Raptors, and I've been to the

1032
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: Bills Bar in Santa Monica when we've been out playing

1033
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: the Lake Is. I've been to a lot of different

1034
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: places to watch the Bills. So my wife grew up

1035
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: in Western New York. Murphy's. You know you were at

1036
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: our wedding years ago? Yeah? How many years? Wedding anniversary tomorrow,

1037
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: by the way, oh how many years? Twenty six years.

1038
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: I was telling these guys here, one of the one

1039
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: of the greatest weddings of all time. You're wedding to Dina.

1040
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: It was amazing, it really was, Jack, Tell him, Tell

1041
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: tell Steve how good it was. What'd you do? We

1042
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: had about four hundred people. I come from Brooklyn, as

1043
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: you know, and saw a lot of Irish guys and

1044
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: a lot of Irish cops and firemen, and so we

1045
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: went through I'm gonna say fourteen kegs and then I

1046
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: mean it was just Murphy can tell you it was

1047
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: absolutely insane. It was just these guys get after him.

1048
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: Let's just say that. It was quite the party. An

1049
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: Irish wedding and beer. It's a perfect recipe. Yeah, they

1050
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: go together, they go together and they and the favor

1051
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: that we gave out to everybody was a huge cup

1052
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: on your table, so you could just walk right over

1053
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: to the keg. So it was like it was like

1054
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: a college frat pond. It was quite the event. And uh,

1055
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: but you know, my wife's from Western New York and uh,

1056
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Speaker 1: you know, from the time I moved to Buffalo and

1057
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight and struck up a great relationship

1058
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: with Bill Polian, who's obviously from the Bronx and his

1059
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: kids used to go to my basketball camp, and I

1060
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: just got hooked on the Bills because I got to

1061
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: know a lot of great people like Murph and you Steve,

1062
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: and I've really enjoyed it over the years, and I

1063
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: followed the Bills passionately. What is your kind of game

1064
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: day routine. When you come down to Orchard Park to

1065
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: visit a home game, what's your routine? Do you tailgate?

1066
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: Do you have a couple of Stuntumently we're out there.

1067
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: We're out there probably usually by eight thirty nine o'clock

1068
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: on game day, and we're having a few beverages and

1069
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: barbecuing and enjoying ourselves. One of Murph's childhood buddies are

1070
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: Buddy Tony, mutual friend. I tell gate with him and

1071
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys and we have a great

1072
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: time and we hang out after the game, and I

1073
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: absolutely love it. And the Bills fans are just so

1074
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: passionate and it's really cool too. There's a lot of

1075
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: people that come from Toronto and southern Ontario that are

1076
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: huge Bills fans, as you know, and so I get

1077
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: a lot of raptor fans that come up to me

1078
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: and know it. I go to the Bills games and

1079
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: we chat Bills and I met actually Josh Allen with

1080
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: one of our games if she had chatted briefly with him,

1081
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: and so it's it's a lot of fun. And again,

1082
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: I just hope that things keep turning around. I feel

1083
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: that they're in the right direction. Branded being at Sean McDermott,

1084
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: I think got them pointed in the right direction. Hey Jack,

1085
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: I think Steve should know this, Our listeners should know this.

1086
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: Jack is mister basketball in Canada, and I've played golf

1087
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: of them where there were Canadians on the golf course

1088
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: who dropped their clubs, drop what they're doing to come

1089
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: over and talk to Jack Armstrong. Right, Jack, I'm not exaggerating,

1090
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: and that must be accelerated now with the Raptors in

1091
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: the finals, I would think, right, I pay a lot

1092
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: of people off. I paid those guys off to do that,

1093
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: just to impress you at all. No, it's pretty amazing. No,

1094
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: it's great. And obviously I know Steve sun Luke was

1095
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: you know Hamilton Tiger Cats, and uh, you know, it's

1096
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: just a big fans. You know. This is my twenty

1097
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: first year with the Raptors and I'm very fortunate I've

1098
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: seen it go from kind of a startup business. When

1099
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: I got there, it was just kind of in their infancy.

1100
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: And the first game I have a call was Vince

1101
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: called as rookie game we played in Boston against the Celtics,

1102
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: and here we are twenty one years later and you

1103
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: know Game three tomorrow night here in the Bay Area

1104
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: for the NBA titles. So it's it's been a tremendous ride,

1105
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: and our fan base is just off the chart. It's

1106
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: an interesting thing about our franchise, unlike any other team

1107
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: in the NBA, is all a two regular season games

1108
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: are on national TV, and all our games in the

1109
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: postseason or on national TV as well. Plus you know

1110
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: all the games are on national radio. So uh, it's

1111
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: it's just been a phenomenal thing. It's a national team.

1112
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: You know, when the Grizzlies left Vancouver and when the

1113
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: Expos left Montreal, you know, you have one baseball team

1114
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: and one basketball team and the entire country gets behind it.

1115
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: So it's been a national phenomena. I mean, yesterday the

1116
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: ratings came out for Game two on TSN, the game

1117
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: I did on TV, and we had over four and

1118
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: a half million people watched the game in a country

1119
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: of thirty seven million. So the NBA put it outs

1120
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: over thirty five percent of the country watching a game.

1121
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: You don't get that United States exactly. Go ahead, I

1122
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: know as much as you hear about it, you know

1123
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: in the US, they talk about the NBA ratings. It

1124
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: down because our market is a third blaugest market in

1125
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: the NBA, and it does a register on the US

1126
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: Nielsen ratings. If you if you tie in the percentage

1127
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: of you is watching, Uh, you know, in Canada, it's remarkable.

1128
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: So I think it's an international event, and I think

1129
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: the NBA folks are little by little opening their eyes

1130
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: to the fact that this has been a sleeping giant

1131
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: all along and it's finally coming to fruition. Well, I

1132
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: guess I should we should ask you about Game three

1133
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: that this looks to be an opportunity for the Raptors.

1134
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson's not going to play for the for the

1135
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: for the Warriors, Kevin Looney looks like he's got a

1136
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: broken collar bone. He's not going to be available. Is

1137
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant going to be available for the Warriors? Well,

1138
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: they're list in. Clay Thompson is questionable unless that changed

1139
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: in the last few minutes. I put who knows what

1140
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: will happen in him and Kate d they're being kind

1141
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: of sneaky about the whole thing. Uh, you know, they're

1142
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: saying he might be ready tomorrow. He might be ready Friday.

1143
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: I watched him shoot last Friday afternoon in Toronto and

1144
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: he was kind of just it was all half speed,

1145
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know whether it's for show or if

1146
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: he's actually close and ready. And you never know sometimes

1147
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: with these guys as well, he's a free agent at

1148
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: the end of the year, so you know, you know

1149
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna take his time getting back and again,

1150
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just don't know what the actual injury

1151
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: is if it's a lot worse than what they're saying,

1152
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: So only time will tell. But you know, obviously, if

1153
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson is not able to play tomorrow night and

1154
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: Ka d you know what they say, opportunities multipliers the

1155
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: seas they die as they neglected. You know, that's an

1156
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: opportunity for Toronto even though it's a road game in

1157
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: a really hostile environment and they still have Steph Curry

1158
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: and on Gay Goudala and Draymond Green and company, and

1159
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: they have a championship pedigree. You gotta jump them, and

1160
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: you got to come out and play you know, Fosi's defense,

1161
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: and you gotta get after them, and you gotta you know,

1162
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: you can't let them have an opportunity believe that they

1163
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: can beat us, So you gotta get out you know,

1164
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: obviously it's one one. You got to find a way

1165
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: to get home court advantage back and got to steal

1166
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: one out here. Hey Jack, I asked this question of

1167
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know Willie hutch Jones, Buffalo guy, former

1168
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: NBA he's a Laker, right, asked this question of him

1169
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: Sunday night, is is Steph Curry the greatest NBA shooter

1170
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: of all time? He couldn't give me an answer. What

1171
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: do you think I can yes, not player shooters, absolutely,

1172
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and I had you know, Dell

1173
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: Curry played with us for the Raptors his last three

1174
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: years in the NBA, so I got to see his

1175
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: fall the plane. I watched Steph as a little boy

1176
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: every day in the gym. I've seen a lot of

1177
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: great shooters, you know. I think of a guy like

1178
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller. I grew up with Chris Mullen and Brooklyn

1179
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: actually played against in my whole life, and he was

1180
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: a great shooter. You know, we've seen Bird and some

1181
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: many of the other great shooters. But here's the thing

1182
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: that Steph Curry does better than any person who's ever

1183
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: been on the planet, and that's this. He is a

1184
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: great catching shoot guy, and he is also an elite

1185
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: guy creating his own shot off the bounce. There there

1186
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: might be a better shooter on the catch, there might

1187
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: be a better shooter off the bounce, but nobody can

1188
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: buy finds those two things at a world class, elite

1189
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: level better than him. So when you combine the two

1190
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: and I valuely shooting in all those areas, not just

1191
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: one or the other, there's nobody I've ever seen better

1192
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: than that. I was just gonna say on Curry, I

1193
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: love watching to move without the ball too, Jack, and

1194
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: you're you're not as old as I am. But I

1195
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: think back of Bill Bradley when I watch him move

1196
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: without the ball sometimes. Yeah, I think back to John

1197
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: Halcheck actually and Bill Bradley, those would be two great examples,

1198
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: you know. He and again his his dad influenced them

1199
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: so much. I mean, and Dell's a wonderful guy and

1200
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: was a really good pro in his own right. Um,

1201
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: but he learned to value you know, you're a hunted

1202
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: man when you're a great offensive player, and you know,

1203
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: I think sometimes people don't realize how hard that is.

1204
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Night and night out when people are totally game planning

1205
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: to take away a lot of the things that you

1206
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: do well, and he finds a way to counteract it.

1207
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: A big part of counteracting it is being able to

1208
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: move it out the ball and be a good cutter,

1209
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: screen usage, reading screens, coming off, kind of conning people

1210
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: into you know, taking two steps right and bang going left,

1211
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: just you know, really knowing how to and he has

1212
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: a great way with the ball of changing pace, changing

1213
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: directions really massive. He's not the fastest guy on Earth,

1214
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: he's not the greatest athlete out there, but he tells

1215
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: he's incredibly skilled. He's super smart, and he plays the

1216
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: game and all the great ones do this. He plays

1217
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: it at that controlled speed where you know you're reacting

1218
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: to him. He's not and he'll react to you, but

1219
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: more importantly, he's reading you and setting you up. So

1220
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: the Raptors got off to a one lead in the

1221
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: series and then the Warriors have tied it up. What

1222
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: was different between game two than game one and what

1223
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: do the Raptors have to do in game three to win? Steve,

1224
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: I think the biggest difference was the fact that I

1225
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: thought the Warriors brought an incredible level of physicality defensively

1226
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: and really got into the Raptors in Game two. I

1227
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: thought the Raptors didn't play with the same degree of

1228
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: will and toughness offensively, turned the ball over too much,

1229
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: didn't get as much flow in the offense. Uh that

1230
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, there were times during the game there were

1231
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: more more turnovers and assists, so it wasn't a much

1232
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: flow ball movement, missed a lot of open shots, and

1233
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: just kind of got beat to the punch on a

1234
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: lot of different things. Yet at the end of the game,

1235
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, they had plenty of chances to tie the

1236
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: game and even try to come close to taking the lead,

1237
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: and they couldn't do it. So I give the Warriors credit.

1238
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: I just thought their will to win and the urgency

1239
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: that they played with was off the charts, and they

1240
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: put on a show in the third quarter. They're passing.

1241
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: There's a there's another gear that great teams played at,

1242
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: and the Warriors showed that gear in Game two in

1243
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: the third quarter the other night, and the Raptors, you know,

1244
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: not only you have to match that, you got to

1245
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: exceed it, and they didn't do that. So lesson learned.

1246
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: You're even won one. You know, during the regular season,

1247
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: the Raptors beat the Warriors both times these teams played.

1248
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: So as I was getting on the chartis day boy,

1249
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, I'm like, man, I feel comfortable.

1250
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: I don't know about confident, but I feel comfortable that.

1251
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: You know, after the four times I've seen these two

1252
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: teams play against each other, there is no doubt that

1253
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: the Raptors belong on the same floor as these guys. Now,

1254
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: can they win three more games and win a title?

1255
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: That's gonna be That's who knows. I mean, a lot's

1256
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to go right. But I do think that

1257
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: if the Raptors can keep Golden State out of transition,

1258
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: because they're a great running team, if you can slow

1259
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: them down and make them have to run their stuff

1260
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: against your half court defense, and the Raptors half court

1261
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: defense has been excellent in the postseason, I think they

1262
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: got a fighting chance. Jack, we're asking about the Warriors superstars.

1263
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: Raptors have Kawhi U Kawhi Leonard, who is a bonified

1264
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: NBA superstar, and a I saw a headline that Skip

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Speaker 1: Bayless said he is the most overprotected superstar in sports.

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Speaker 1: What on earth is he talking about? What? What what

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Speaker 1: does he see about Kawhi Leonard Well, Skip Bayless. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure what he's smoking, but he's he's clearly one

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Speaker 1: of those shock jock type guys. It just makes outrageous statements. Um,

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Speaker 1: if he actually knew what he was talking about, I

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Speaker 1: would give it some credence. But you know, the reality is,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you've heard the term load management,

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Speaker 1: and you know what the Raptors have done basically based

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Speaker 1: upon the fact that he only played nine games last

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Speaker 1: year in San Antonio and had a very serious quad injury,

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Speaker 1: and there were a lot of issues medically with him

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Speaker 1: that caused, unfortunately a divorce between him and and the

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Speaker 1: Spur as a team. You want a champ. Chip with

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Speaker 1: was the finals MVP, and I think the Raptors when

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Speaker 1: they traded for him, and it was a bold, risky

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Speaker 1: move because you don't know when you open that file,

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Speaker 1: you don't know what's in there. Uh. You know, the

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Speaker 1: reality is you now have to you have to assess

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Speaker 1: how you're going to bring this guy along. The Raptors

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Speaker 1: won fifty nine games last year and you know, and

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Speaker 1: had a great year and yet we couldn't get by

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Speaker 1: Lebron James for the third year in a row. The

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Speaker 1: guy who's you know, guy's an amazing playoff You make

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Speaker 1: that move. I think you decide, hey man, look, we

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Speaker 1: have a good team no matter what. So if we

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Speaker 1: can get fifty five sixty sixty five games out of

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Speaker 1: this guy in the regular season and make sure he's

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Speaker 1: healthy every single night during the playoffs, that's what we're

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Speaker 1: here for. Now, you make it a trade for him

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Speaker 1: because you're saying, hey man, we've been there already. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Raptor has it been in the playoffs now six

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Speaker 1: straight years. It's about getting to the finals. Well, here

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Speaker 1: they are now. So the reality is they made a

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Speaker 1: decision to you know, on back to backs when they

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Speaker 1: felt there was an issue where you know, you want

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Speaker 1: to be preventive, you want to be proactive in terms

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Speaker 1: of how you handle things. And we have an amazing guy.

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Speaker 1: His name is Alex mckeckney, who's a director of sports

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Speaker 1: science with the Raptors. He's he won five championship rings

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Speaker 1: with the LA Lakers and the Raptors were fortunate to

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Speaker 1: steal him seven years ago when Phil Jackson left. And

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Speaker 1: he oversees that whole thing, and if you if you

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Speaker 1: ask Shaquille O'Neal right now, or Kobe Bryant, guys like that,

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Speaker 1: you know, they adore Alex And to me, it's about

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Speaker 1: having a guy that looks out for the best interests

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Speaker 1: of the athlete and make sure that you bring the

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Speaker 1: guy along. And Kawhi Lennard has gradually gotten healthier and healthier,

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Speaker 1: and here he is in the finals now. I think

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Speaker 1: he's playing through some injuries right now, and he's still

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Speaker 1: out there because he's got enough left in the tank

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Speaker 1: to do it. And having good people like that around

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Speaker 1: and Steve can relate to this. You know, I was

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Speaker 1: a big fan of Rusty Jones when he was with

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Speaker 1: the Bills. And having people like that in the background

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Speaker 1: a major difference makers. And the Raptors aren't in the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals without how they handled Kauai. Yeah, you're interested.

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Speaker 1: You are. You're in the finals, Jack with your team

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Speaker 1: you've been following. You were there from day one of

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Speaker 1: Vince Carter in the whole nine yards. Were you ever

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Speaker 1: able to experience the Bills Super Bowl? Were you a

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Speaker 1: fan of the Bills back then? Yes? I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was living and I was living in

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Speaker 1: Western New York at the time, and I was the

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Speaker 1: head coach at Nyakara, So unfortunately I never got a

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Speaker 1: chance to go to the Super Bowl. My wife went

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Speaker 1: a few times, but I wasn't able to go because

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Speaker 1: I was working. I was either out recruiting or we

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Speaker 1: had games or whatever. But oh yeah, I was just

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Speaker 1: absolutely incredible to get the opportunity to go to those games,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the regular season and playoffs a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but never got a chance to go to actually, but

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Speaker 1: I was at a lot of good parties watching. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: the question is, can you compare the two atmospheres? You know,

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Speaker 1: you're you're sitting right, you are courtside every game of

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. Put it in perspective. You've been waiting

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Speaker 1: for this for a long time. You've been trying to

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Speaker 1: get through Lebron James for three years. You've been in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs and haven't gotten closed for six years. What's

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Speaker 1: it like now to get there? And put it in

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Speaker 1: context of your coaching career, now, your broadcast career. What

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Speaker 1: does it mean to you? Well, it means a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know what I did before Game one, before we

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Speaker 1: went on the year, I just sat at the table

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Speaker 1: right next to the Raptor bench, and I just sat

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Speaker 1: on the table and watched the Rafts warm up and

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Speaker 1: I just for like two or three minutes. Nobody came

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Speaker 1: over and said a low. No. I was just in

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Speaker 1: like a zone and I was just watching them, just

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Speaker 1: looking at all the people coming into the building and

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Speaker 1: the smiles on their faces and the joy and the excitement.

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Speaker 1: So to me, I just felt great for our fans, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, and it's been a you know,

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Speaker 1: as a as a basketball coach and now in a

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Speaker 1: second career in the sport. I mean, it's been a

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Speaker 1: long journey and you just try to soak in those moments.

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Speaker 1: And as you guys know, when you're in a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl or the NBA Finals, it's insane the demands on

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Speaker 1: your time. You're getting pulled in a hundred different directions.

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Speaker 1: You probably one more knucklehead reached out to me and

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: asked me if I have tickets, and I leave me alone.

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Speaker 1: As you guys know what I'm talking about, and you know,

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Speaker 1: so it's just been it's just been an amazing run.

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Speaker 1: I'm really happy for our fans. Our fans are incredibly

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Speaker 1: passionate about their team and to me again, I relate

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Speaker 1: to you know, the Western New York, Southern Ontario. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the fans are just they love their teams and and

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Speaker 1: and it's it's not just in Southern Ontario for the Raptors,

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Speaker 1: but it's all across the country. I mean, we have

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Speaker 1: training camp in Vancouver, or we'll play exhibition games in Montreal,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Edmonton and all these different places in

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Speaker 1: Ottawa and all that, and and everywhere you go in

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Speaker 1: the country, people are really into it. And there they

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Speaker 1: came up with an incredible slogan and called we the North.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of the slogan of the Raptors. And

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, people have rallied behind that the

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Speaker 1: last six years. And it's not only they represent, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Toronto. It represents Canada. And if you if

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01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: you watch or if you're at the arena during the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and particularly in the finals, now you've seen it.

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01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: When the singing of Old Canada and the entire crowd

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Speaker 1: standing on their feet sings the song along with the

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Speaker 1: persons singing it, you get goosebumps. It's just it's just remarkable.

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Speaker 1: So to me, I just I'm just really happy for

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Speaker 1: the fans and the loyalty that they have, and the

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Speaker 1: ownership group maple LEAs Sports and Entertainment led by Larry Tannembaum.

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Speaker 1: He's such a wonderful person. I'm really happy for him

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Speaker 1: and all the folks. Jack, We're happy for you. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the ride. I'm sure you're enjoying it already, but I

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Speaker 1: hope we have a good long series and you continue

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Speaker 1: to have with it. Thanks for carving out some time

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01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: for us today here too. We appreciate it now, problem

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Speaker 1: Murf Steve always a pleasure, guys that I look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing both of you solo. Okay, Thanks Jack, Jack

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Speaker 1: Armstrong Lewiston's own. He is a Bill season ticket member,

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Speaker 1: as you can tell, a huge Bills fan. He's, of

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Speaker 1: course a broadcaster with the Toronto Raptors, joining us from

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Speaker 1: the Bay Area where the NBA Finals resumed Game three

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01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. He's a bonified Bills fan. You can tell.

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01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: He's got a routine. Man, he's into it. That's great,

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01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: good man. Good to have him on the show. He's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I started crossing paddle with him

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Speaker 1: after my playing career was over, and always been great,

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Speaker 1: Always been great to cross paddle and he's just a

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Speaker 1: super guy. Yep. Good to have Jack on the show

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Speaker 1: talking a little bit at NBA. We're gonna get back

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Speaker 1: to some football talk as the show moves along here

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Speaker 1: coming up with two. Kyle Williams will be in studio

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Speaker 1: with us after practice, which should be winding down the

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Speaker 1: next fifteen twenty minutes or so. We hope to get

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Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney, bill seventh round draft pick from Boston College

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Speaker 1: in here after today's ot on the show, talking about

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Speaker 1: defense on the show and leadership Bill's leadership. Our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll today which player on the Bill's defense now that

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01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams is gone? And we should ask Kyle this

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Speaker 1: question too, right, it's a good question for Kyle. Which

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Speaker 1: player on defense will emerge as a leader for the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. On Twitter, We've got more than six ninety

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Speaker 1: votes in so far. Seventy three percent of respondents say

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds, second year linebacker, twenty percent say Micah Hide,

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Speaker 1: two percent say Star Lo Tuo La Lay, five percent

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Speaker 1: have somebody else in mind. Let's hear from you. Phone

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Speaker 1: lines open eight oh three five fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Which player

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Speaker 1: on defense will emerge as a leader. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that when we come back. One Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Hell from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: That's great again. I love it. The time between segments

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Speaker 1: sometimes can be just as entertaining, if not more than

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Speaker 1: your team. Jack Armstrong National treasure. He is in Canada,

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Speaker 1: two countries, right in two countries. Yeah, great guy, great

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Speaker 1: Western New York. Because if we count as Hell's our own,

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Speaker 1: I want to go to his tail. Get it. But

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Speaker 1: that's pretty fun. You know, we talked about coming to

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Speaker 1: Bills games untail gett. That's pretty you can tell, you

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: can tell you'd be welcome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys are buds. Jack and Dean are great, three

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Speaker 1: kids raised, they're all like high achievers in college. They're

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Speaker 1: an amazing family. Here's cool. Hey, um? And then Jack

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Speaker 1: sends me a text thanking me. Don't we thank you, Jack?

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Speaker 1: We thank you for coming on the show. Which player underneven?

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Speaker 1: The Bills are wrapping up OTAs and when when it's time,

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Speaker 1: we will get to Tommy Sweeney. He'll be in studio

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Speaker 1: with us here Bill seventh round picked from Boston College.

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Speaker 1: I think we had him on the air a week

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Speaker 1: or so after he was drafted, right, didn't we? I think?

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Speaker 1: So we had him on the phone maybe the day

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Speaker 1: after he got drafted. Yeah, pretty something like that. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: so that's coming up. Kyle william to get to stop

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Speaker 1: by at two o'clock, and we hope to hear from

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Speaker 1: the podium as the bills come up to practice. FS

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Speaker 1: our issue because we always have a try and get

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Speaker 1: a two o'clock guest or a twelve thirty or one

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Speaker 1: third guests, and you know practice is over. So we

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Speaker 1: got Tommy Sweeney trying to come in here and sit

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Speaker 1: down with us. After practice. Kyle Williams is going to

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Speaker 1: address the team. He's coming in at two o'clock. He's

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Speaker 1: going to be here. And then you have this stuff

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Speaker 1: happening live at the podium, so all this stuff kind

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Speaker 1: of comes together. We're trying to direct the traffic so

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Speaker 1: we can get it all in. If we can the

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Speaker 1: podium stuff, we can tape and show it to you

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Speaker 1: five minutes late. We'll get it all, but we gotta

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Speaker 1: get it in. Hey, which player on defense will emerge

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Speaker 1: as a leader? On defense for the Pills to replace

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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams as a leader on defense. We know Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: is in place, but who else will emerge? That's our

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Speaker 1: twitter poll. We're taking phone calls on A two eight

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Speaker 1: h three five fifty and toll free one eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty from the tweet sheet. The tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

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Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bills. This tweet from Wandering Jack

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Speaker 1: Zoe is still the leader as long as he's here.

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01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: I agree with that, he says, I hope Termaine Edmunds

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Speaker 1: can grow into a leader. But Hide is the quiet

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01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: conscience of the secondary. He's equal parts elite player, traffic cop,

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01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: and voice in the room. I think he takes on

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01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: the mantle of the true defensive leader. That is very

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01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: well put Wondering Jack right. Just yeah, It really is

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01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: no question that every no matter what carry over there

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01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: is from one year to the next, there's always even

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01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: in a team that's kind of set in stone that

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01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: you would think there's always ten guys or fifteen guys

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: or usually fifteen at the bottom of the roster that

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01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: are churned over, that are turned over they're new from

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: year into year, and that's what makes every year unique

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01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: and different. It makes every team different. Even if the

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01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: major players are in place, and all those Super Bowl

1493
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: teams there were at least ten new players every year.

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01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: There are only there were twenty two guys on those

1495
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: Bills teams that went to four straight Super Bowls, twenty

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01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: two out of the fifty three, plus all the practice

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01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: squad guys. So it's you know, a third of the

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01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: guys who were there for all of them. Those teams

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01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 1: are very different within those years where it was a

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Speaker 1: great team, you know what I'm saying. So this team

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01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: is no different and it's gonna have This team is

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01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: going to be different than last years and a lot

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01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: of a lot of new faces, a lot of new strategies,

1504
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: a lot of new players, not new roles for different players,

1505
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: in a different atmosphere in the locker room. And that's

1506
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: the thing that gets lost in is for me, one

1507
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: of the most important components. What's the locker room Like,

1508
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: who's the guy that will get everybody to laugh? Yeah,

1509
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, who's the guy that's going to be the

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01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: one that doesn't mind stand in the middle of the

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01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: room and say something either funny, stupid or controversial. Any

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01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: one of those three. You know, who's going to be

1513
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: that guy and who's going to be the guy that

1514
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: you know fires across his bow. You know, there's gonna

1515
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: be a lot of conversations. And that's that's what this team,

1516
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: I think now, is spending so much time trying to

1517
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: find out. You know, Brownie made a good point. Chris

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01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: brown joined us from the field at the start of

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Speaker 1: today's show, the start of today's OTA session, and I

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01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: think it's worth discussing for a minute or two here

1521
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: Steve the role of the coaching staff, in particular of

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01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott of sort of fostering that leadership. And I

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01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: think that's important and maybe overlooked a little bit. Look,

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01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: they recruit all these guys free agents, they draft these guys,

1525
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: do extensive study into their background and what makes them tick.

1526
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: How good a leader are they in their college team

1527
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: or in their previous NFL team, And it's up to

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01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: McDermot to decide, you know, bring that guy in here,

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01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: add him to our mix, and let's see if he

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01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: becomes a leader here. But I don't think shankin ordain

1531
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: somebody a leader. It basically is bringing guys who might

1532
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: qualified for that and see how it develops in this group. Right,

1533
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: that's right and even and like I said earlier too,

1534
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: you bring those type of guys in a lot of them,

1535
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: and you keep the most productive ones. If you're if

1536
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: you're a great guy, that's that's wonderful. But you can't

1537
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: if you can't play, you can't play, you can't be

1538
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: on the team. So you bring in a ton of

1539
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: those guys. Hopefully all of those guys, and the ones

1540
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 1: who are the most productive earn their earn the bigger voice,

1541
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: and they earned tenure, and they earn a second contract

1542
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: in a second lap. They earn the respect of the

1543
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: coaching staff where the coaches and once in a while

1544
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: will defer to them. Yeah. Uh, that's a big thing. Yep,

1545
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: that's the thing, but it's earned. All right. We're gonna

1546
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: take a break and when we come back, we're gonna

1547
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: talk with the Tommy Sweeney Buffalo seventh Round vat pick

1548
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: from Boston College tight end who just got off the

1549
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: field of today's ota that's coming up next. Come on back,

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive presented by Kalida Health,

1551
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Wellcome back One Bill's

1552
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Casker in

1553
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: a special guest in studio with us right off the

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01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: practice field OTA session number eight, number eighty nine for

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01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Not this eighty nine, that eighty nine.

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01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney, Congratulations, I'm getting the coveted number eighty nine.

1557
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Steve? You all right?

1558
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: You had another eight? Man? I hope, I hope you

1559
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: make them forget about me. Man. That's great. Yeah, you

1560
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: feel good? Yeah, feel great. We're talking about during the

1561
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: break as you got in here, you thin tight end,

1562
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: which is it's double edged sword one. You get like

1563
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: twice that much running. But on the other hand, you

1564
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: get a lot of reps. And the reps are really

1565
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: the key or at this point right, Yeah, for sure,

1566
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: you know coming in, um, you know, get as much

1567
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: as possible reps, you know, learning whether you're successful or not,

1568
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: you know, getting out there, like you said, getting it

1569
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: on tape and whatnot, and just getting out there, gonna

1570
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: feel for the speed playbook and all that stuff. That's

1571
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: the easiest way to learn the playbook, right running through

1572
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: it and seeing it on film, getting critiqued, hearing it

1573
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: in the huddle, all that stuff put together really makes

1574
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 1: it ten times easier to retain it. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

1575
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 1: for sure what those injuries and McDermott talked about it

1576
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: before practice today, obviously not optimal. But for you guys

1577
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: like you and for Donson, knock, the door swings wide

1578
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: open when that happens, right, you must, even though you don't,

1579
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: you might not want to acknowledge it, but you must

1580
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: feel that a little bit like, look at all the

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: reps I'm getting. Look at all the exposures I'm getting now, Yeah,

1582
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm just, you know, just thankful

1583
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: for the reps. You know, however they come on. You know,

1584
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: they never wish that on anybody. So you know, I

1585
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: just you know, whenever they call my number, go out

1586
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: there and you know, do my job. I want to

1587
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: ask you about your background. You grew up in Northern

1588
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 1: New Jersey Jets fan Giants, fan giants, fanger. Okay, that's

1589
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: all right then, and you went to one of them,

1590
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 1: one of the legendary high school football programs in America,

1591
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: really don Bosco Prep in uh in Northern New Jersey.

1592
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: Talk about that. What you accomplished there. You were all state, right,

1593
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 1: notable mentioned all state. Yeah, yeah, you know we had

1594
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: a great teams from a great program. Um. You know,

1595
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: I really taught me a lot. It was very you know,

1596
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: sent me up for college pretty well because you know,

1597
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: all the coaches have been around. You know, there's a

1598
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: lot of college coaches. Coaches are in college now and stuff,

1599
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: so it was very good to you know, get kind

1600
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: of an advanced playbook and you know, play out of

1601
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: state stuff like that, kind of who the coaches down there,

1602
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: who leads to a program down there. My time was great, Toll.

1603
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: It's been a little different since, you know, in the

1604
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: last five years. So yeah. And then from Donnie Bosco,

1605
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: you went to Boston College and we were talking to

1606
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: the break again. Great experience there. Yeah, I loved every second,

1607
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 1: you know, playing you know, ACC is a good conferences

1608
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna get you know, playing in this competition like that,

1609
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: and we learned a lot of pro style stuff. So

1610
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, Titan was out there doing a lot of

1611
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: different things and that really helped a lot of things.

1612
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: So you went really good college experience and good level

1613
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 1: of college division one. You were at the top of

1614
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: the really good conference. Went to a really good prep

1615
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: school in high school, so you did had a really

1616
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 1: good pedigree coming out. What was the first thing you've

1617
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 1: noticed here in Buffalo with this team at this level

1618
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: of play, it's you know, it's off the charts, you know,

1619
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: whether it's veterans, there's a lot of young guys who

1620
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: played a lot. They kind of have that veteran air

1621
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: to him, just because we haven't played and you know,

1622
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: everybody's locked in on one goal, and you know, everybody's

1623
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: going out trying to get better every day, and you know,

1624
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: it's great. Tommy Sweeney, our guest Bill seventh Round, picked

1625
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: from Boston College. Your time at BC was interesting right

1626
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 1: early a couple of years obviously red shot year, first

1627
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: year or two, you weren't on the field much, weren't

1628
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: doing a whole lot, and then all of a sudden,

1629
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: you sort of exploded in the last few years here

1630
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: right as a major contributor to what they were doing. Yeah,

1631
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of, you know, play kind of

1632
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: steadily increases and went on once I got you know,

1633
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 1: that first year a little bit, but that sophomore through

1634
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: your senior year, I was pretty much starting all the time,

1635
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: and you know that's a lot of refs, a lot

1636
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: of playing and um, you know it was just good,

1637
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, playing against you know, good defenders, linebackers, shirts,

1638
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: events in the a SEC and stuff like that, and

1639
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: playing the offensive we played and really you know helped

1640
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: me set me up. I learned this offense. I want

1641
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: actually about the game you have against IIOWA. It must

1642
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: have been your what your junior year? Right, the bull

1643
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: game seven catches one hundred thirty seven yards best game

1644
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: in your tenure, BC, do you think or statistically? Yeah,

1645
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: what what was going to right? That game? It was

1646
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: a bull game set, Yeah, it's a bullgame of Yankee Stadium. Yeah,

1647
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 1: the ground was frozen, so that helped. You know, the

1648
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: linebackers on their heels can't really move as well, so

1649
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: that definitely helped. But um, you know, we're just it

1650
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: was a crazy game. There's no footing out there, so

1651
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: we're able to do a lot of play action. And

1652
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, once play action, once the linebackers get down

1653
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: their heels, tough for them to get back. And I

1654
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: was able to get behind, you know, make a couple

1655
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: of guys missing in the stands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well

1656
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: they came, but it was it was like negative something

1657
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: with the Windshiel, So not as many people in the stands,

1658
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: but they were they came Monument Park. Yeah yeah. Compare

1659
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: this offense to the one you ran a BC, A

1660
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: little more complicated, a little same same concepts. How about

1661
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 1: your The way they used tight ends here is compared

1662
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: that they did in college Boston. Yeah, it's a lot

1663
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: of Obviously it's an NFL, so it's a little it's

1664
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: a little more advance, of course. And um, you know

1665
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 1: that US tightens a lot of different ways, which is

1666
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: what we do at BC, So I think that helps.

1667
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: So I think it's a lot of the same things,

1668
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: but you know, kind of more than that, you know,

1669
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: expanding on those ones that I knew at BC. Do

1670
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: they use you here like in line? I mean, are

1671
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: you expected to block and contribute in the running game

1672
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: as well? Uh? Yeah, you know, whatever is asking me,

1673
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: you know in line, you know it's flex out, whatever

1674
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: it may be. I've been doing something. Are you comfortable

1675
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: as is in the blocking role? Do you feel like yeah, yeah,

1676
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: I did a lot of that in college. You know,

1677
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: we had a pretty good run game and you know,

1678
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: prod ourself on that. Uh, I'm gonna ask you how

1679
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 1: many guys are in the tight end room right now?

1680
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of you know, Croft and

1681
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: Crum or Hurt, But about a month and a half

1682
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: or two months ago, just before the draft, there's only

1683
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: one guy in the room, and it was you know,

1684
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: it was it was Jason krue So tell me about

1685
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: the room. A lot of new faces, a lot of

1686
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: guys really have never met. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, so

1687
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: Jason Tyler obviously, and then and then Lee Smith just

1688
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: came in his a vet. He's got a lot of knowledge,

1689
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: he's you know, I was just trying to pick his brain,

1690
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: let as much we cant from him. Then Dawson, myself

1691
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: and two other rookies, so seven total right now. Lee

1692
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: Smith has unique knowledge, doesn't he? About the league and

1693
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: the way things work. You know, he certainly does a

1694
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: different perspective on things, for sure. He's been around the block. Yeah,

1695
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: it's been around this block exactly. And lessing I have

1696
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 1: for you is so you're not too from too far

1697
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: away northern New Jersey. The weather we'll put aside for

1698
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: a minute. But how do you like Buffalo so far?

1699
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: What do you think about being here working here over

1700
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: the last six weeks. It's great. I mean, you know,

1701
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean more of the day, weekend, especially now it's

1702
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: like beautiful. You has to love to see west in

1703
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: New York and um, you know, everybody's so nice out here,

1704
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: a little nicer than you know, New Jersey, Boston, stuff

1705
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: like that. But but it's been great, you know, everybody.

1706
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: You know, I love it. It's been great so far

1707
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: out here. You know, I've been here for five weeks,

1708
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: but so far it's been great. Do you have time

1709
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: to do much except work? I mean you're here long

1710
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: days during the week, right, Yeah, not so much in

1711
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: the we you know, on the weekends. We've been able

1712
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: to see a couple of things, but uh, you know,

1713
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: haven't really gotten into it yet. Commy, Thanks, it's good

1714
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: to seeing you, man. Thanks so much. Looks good on you,

1715
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: Commy Tweeny Bill's tight end seventh round pick from Boston College.

1716
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: Bill's wrapped up there OTA for today, and at the

1717
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: podium is Josh Allen quarterback Josh Allen answering questions at

1718
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: the podium after today's OTA session. I mean, that's that's

1719
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna happen in games this year. Something's gonna happen. Somebody's

1720
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna step in and and Phil a role. Um. You know,

1721
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 1: it's good that we get some you know, changes like

1722
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: that in practice so we can get used to it,

1723
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: adapt to it. Um. You know, in football, nothing's perfect,

1724
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, we know that, And like I said, anything

1725
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: could happen in any given game. So somebody's gotta be

1726
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: already step up. That's what we did today. And um,

1727
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: I said, guys, just gotta Phil Phil Roles. You know,

1728
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: how has it been having Mitch you know, at least

1729
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: taking snaps from him. Now you're not just giving meetings

1730
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: trying to get on the same page. You're physically doing

1731
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: something now. Yeah, no, getting the Phil, Um. You know

1732
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: how he is on the field, you know, even if

1733
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: it is just walked through, just seeing kind of like

1734
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: where he snaps it and you know where he prefers

1735
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: the hands, um, and then just him being out there talking,

1736
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: communicating with the guys in every given play. So it's

1737
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: good for you know, the whole team, the offense, especially

1738
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: that when he's out there and he's getting used to

1739
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: things and be able to see things from that perspective. Um.

1740
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: And we're gonna continue to work on out that brought

1741
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: the guys up. They were to kind of give him

1742
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: one for after a couple of balls stars who yelling. Uh,

1743
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: Mitch and Pat were up there. Um, you know, just

1744
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,839
Speaker 1: trying to get back on page and then get everybody

1745
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: you know pulling in the same direction. You have other

1746
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,560
Speaker 1: guys that can step in that it doesn't always have

1747
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: to be you. Yeah, absolutely, you know it. It's a

1748
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: team for a reason. You know, we got guys in

1749
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: in different positions that step up and like I said,

1750
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: Phil Rolls and um, you know, not one person can

1751
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: say anything. You know, we want this to be a

1752
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: family like atmosphere where somebody can step up and doesn't

1753
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: matter who it is, say something meaningful for the team

1754
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: if it's going to help us. Josh tell us yesterday,

1755
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: there's been times that you and Ryan and run over

1756
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: film and to say conversations a little bit more to

1757
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: what Um, I wouldn't say they've been frequent, but you

1758
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: know it's always good to get new ideas, especially from

1759
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: guy like Jim who's you know, Hall of Famers played

1760
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: at the highest level for a very long time. UM,

1761
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 1: for myself, just kind of picking his brain and just

1762
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: kind of talking and seeing what he did and seeing

1763
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 1: what he did on film and then being able to

1764
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: actually ask him, like what his thought process was on

1765
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: a certain concept because you know, you see it nowadays too,

1766
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: like football has not changed that much. They ran the

1767
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: same concepts that we still run to this day. Um,

1768
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: So in order to kind of like pick his brain

1769
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: has been really good for me. Obviously, he's been in

1770
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 1: there with Doris and uh and Dave's a couple of times. So, um,

1771
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's been much more than that.

1772
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody's been making in a big deal,

1773
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: but you know, to have a guy like Jim around

1774
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: the building, it is special because you know, he means

1775
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,759
Speaker 1: a lot to the city and a lot to this organization.

1776
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: So just thankful that he's you know, fortunate enough to

1777
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: come over here and talk with us. Um, I mean

1778
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: embracing Buffalo, you know, especially outside of the football Uh

1779
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: that and then you know, he was a big h

1780
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: you know, he liked to take what the defense gave him.

1781
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: So he's been trying to preach that with me. You

1782
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 1: mentioned that a couple of weeks ago, tas what's that

1783
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: relationships like cultivated? It's been awesome you know, Doris is,

1784
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, a great quarterback coach. He did some really

1785
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: good things at Caroline, and UM, thankful that we have

1786
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: him here. You know, the type of relationship that we

1787
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: have where we can bounce ideas off of each other.

1788
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: And you know, he's been back there, he's played the position,

1789
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: he's seen it from a quarterback's perspective. UM, And I

1790
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: think when you have a guy like that in a room,

1791
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: you really respect him and you and you really can

1792
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: understand what he's saying and what he's thinking because he's

1793
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 1: gone through all that stuff and there's no hesitation or

1794
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: doubt in his mind what he sees that we can

1795
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: kind of relate it and try to match up ideas

1796
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: together because he knows what you're going through because he's

1797
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: been Yeah. Absolutely, Um, that experience is very big. You know.

1798
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: That's why I think he's such a good coach, you know, UM,

1799
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 1: being able to take what he learned from the game

1800
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: and apply it to to his teachings and try to

1801
01:27:51,240 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: apply it to us. Reach out to everyone different voices,

1802
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: whether it's Jim Palm or by day endorsee Jim Kelly Da.

1803
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: I mean, all these guys given you all this information

1804
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: how do you even sort through it all process and

1805
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: maybe not over well, or maybe two doesn't always well.

1806
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 1: You have to have your own DNA and you have

1807
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: to know who you are. Um I think that's one

1808
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: of the most important things about being quarterback, knowing yourself

1809
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: and how certain things peel. You know, if you're reading

1810
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 1: a concept a certain way and you just don't like it,

1811
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: being able to communicate with that with the offensive coordinator

1812
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: of the quarterback coach and trying to switch something or

1813
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: not just you know, get rid of that concept in total,

1814
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: you know. And that's where Dave's been really good and

1815
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: helpful with me. You know. We spend a lot of

1816
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: time going over concepts that we like, concepts that we're

1817
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: just okay on, and concepts that we don't like, and

1818
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: getting rid of the concepts that we don't like, you know,

1819
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: and moving on seeing some film and adapting our ideas

1820
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: and trying out new things in practice. And that's what

1821
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: OTAs are really for, you know, is trying new things

1822
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: and seeing what works and seeing what won't. Josh you

1823
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 1: Avling moment to go speaking to the media as today's

1824
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 1: Ota number eight wrapped up for the buff Bills, We're

1825
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 1: kind of the message is hammered home a couple of

1826
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: times today. It's a work in progress here, you know

1827
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, it really is and there and you

1828
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 1: hear Jazz talking about it Sehan earlier today. They just

1829
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 1: got work to do and they're working at it right,

1830
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: They're doing everything, getting the reps in. It's a work

1831
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: in progress. Are they ready to play this Sunday? No,

1832
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: they don't have to be. That's a good thing. The

1833
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: interesting part is they're far enough into it to realize

1834
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 1: how far they need to go to feel the feel proficient,

1835
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: and to be proficient. You got you gotta feel proficient

1836
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: before you are. I mean, you've got to be really

1837
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: good at it. You've got to have enough reps in it.

1838
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: But now also they probably got a good bulk of

1839
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: stuff installed and with still more to install. And now

1840
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: you've got guys trying to go back today one and say, what,

1841
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 1: do you know what we were trying to They're probably

1842
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: starting to review that stuff a little bit, and you know,

1843
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: and then you get to the immensity of what you've

1844
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: already installed, and then sit there and look at the

1845
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: vast playbook that you still have to get through. You know,

1846
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: he still got a lot of work to do, and

1847
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: it's it just seems like one of those who's gonna

1848
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: be a long you know what I mean. Yeah, they're

1849
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: just getting started and and they all know I think

1850
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: at this level, even the rookies, no, man it you've

1851
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: got to have it right, you know, you've got to

1852
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 1: have it right. And there everybody's a long way from

1853
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: feeling confident about what they're doing. I think that's one

1854
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: of This is one of those days where that shows up.

1855
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: And when you're not confident, you don't feel ready, and

1856
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: that's not a good place to be. Yeah, hey, we

1857
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: got we got a good guest coming up for the

1858
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: third and final hour. He was an interested observer at

1859
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 1: today's OTA session. Kyle Williams, you know that name. He's

1860
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 1: scheduled to join us here when we come back for

1861
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: our number three Come on Back. One Bill's Life presented

1862
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. And this is

1863
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio Hello Bill's Radio Network Story date from

1864
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. The Bills have wrapped up their organized

1865
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 1: teaming activity work out for the day. They're eighth two

1866
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: more to come later this week Thursday and Friday, and

1867
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: then one week from today, day one of the three

1868
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: day mandatory minicam. No practice today for a number of bills,

1869
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: including Tie and Secki, Eli, Harold, DJ Gaines, Tyler Craft,

1870
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: Coole Beasley's A Jones, Jason Crum and limited work today

1871
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 1: for Senators Russell Boonin and Mitch Morse. Offensive line in

1872
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain, defensive tackle Ed Oliver, Raphael Bush, Tarren Johnson

1873
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Bodin with a shoulder, Mitch Morse with a corps muscle,

1874
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: wore red non contact jersey today and that's a step

1875
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 1: up for them to get a little bit of action

1876
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: in at today's OTA Commissioner Roger Goodell in Batavia yesterday

1877
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: at Jim Kelly's DOLF tournament, reiterated his stance of wanting

1878
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: to reduce the preseason schedule. This at a time when

1879
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: the league and the players Association have started preliminary talks

1880
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: on a new collective bargaining agreement. Four preseason games too many,

1881
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: according to the commissioner. Former Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive tackle

1882
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy has agreed to a contract with the Carolina Panthers,

1883
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: six time Pro bowler, getting one year deal worked up

1884
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: to ten point two five million dollars. It includes a

1885
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: four million dollars signing bonus for Gerald McCoy. Other NFL

1886
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: news from around the league coming out today. The Cardinals

1887
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson attended OTAs yesterday for the first time since

1888
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: his six game suspension was announced. The Detroit Lions kicked

1889
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: off their three day mandatory mini camp today without two

1890
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: starters from their defense, defensive tackle Damon Snax Harrison and

1891
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: cornerback Garius Slay skipping mini camp looking for new contracts.

1892
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs tomorrow night Game three Toronto at Golden State.

1893
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 1: The series tied at one win apiece. Golden State forward

1894
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Looney likely lost for the rest of the finals.

1895
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: There is optimism among the Warriors that swingman Clay Thompson

1896
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: will play in Game three tomorrow night. Stanley Cup Finals

1897
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: off until Thursday night. Then at his Game five. Series

1898
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: tied at two games apiece after last night's four two

1899
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: win in Saint Louis by the Blues, the Bruins might

1900
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: have to play without captain Zana y O Shara in

1901
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: Game five. That's the update from One Bill Drive, John

1902
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 1: Murphy's team tasker in our one Buffalo Studio. So we

1903
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: said OTAs are complete, and we have a guy here,

1904
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 1: our reporter who covering news for US is in studio

1905
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 1: with US thirteen years as a Bill's defensive tackle. Happy

1906
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: to have Kyle Williams back here in Norch Park with us. Kyle, welcome,

1907
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 1: good to see you. Thanks, good to be here. I

1908
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 1: was OTA today. What do you think it was great?

1909
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: It's even better that I didn't have to practice, So

1910
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 1: that's that's the best kind, right guilty for being on

1911
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 1: the sidelines. No, I'll probably feel some guilt later of

1912
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: sticking my tongue out and Nan Nan and a couple

1913
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: of guys that they had to practice, but it's always

1914
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 1: fun to be out there with those guys. A little

1915
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 1: more than four months since you made the decision to

1916
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: retire and had the tremendous and send off in the

1917
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: finale against the Dolphins, has there been any point, and

1918
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: I know it's only spring, in any point you said,

1919
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: I am I sure do? I really? Am? I really

1920
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 1: glad that I'm out? No? None, no, zero to this point?

1921
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: What made that? Why did you? What went into that consideration?

1922
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 1: We probably asked you this last year, but well, it's

1923
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: such an easy question to answer, you know, making such

1924
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: a big life decision. I'm sure we can cover it

1925
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: very quickly here. Uh you know, I think for me

1926
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: it was family, it was I mean it was just

1927
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: kind of everything, you know how how I felt, um

1928
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: just all kind of wrapped into one. I felt like

1929
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: our team was in a good place and some good

1930
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: young players. Um, the direction that Sean and Brandon are headed,

1931
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: I thought was in a good place. And just for me,

1932
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: I think when it becomes in your mind, it becomes

1933
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 1: the right time and you feel like it's right. It's

1934
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: time when you when it becomes paramount in your thought

1935
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 1: process that hey, you know what, maybe this is it.

1936
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 1: Maybe I need to be done. I think you are done. Yeah,

1937
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: you came back for for this weekend. I we started

1938
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 1: the show by I've told him her if I needed

1939
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 1: a break from my weekend. Was it a long weekend

1940
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 1: for you? Because when you come back into town, you've

1941
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of people pulling you in different directions. Yeah,

1942
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 1: but we talked about it early. I'm really good at

1943
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 1: the at the Irish slipoff, I can you know, I

1944
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: can do what I need to do and Irish goodbye.

1945
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 1: I guess don't hank hanging me I'm sorry, you know

1946
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. Hey, I can say that. I'm irish.

1947
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: It's okay. Relax over there, don't get riled up, you know. Uh,

1948
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, but I can. I can do what I

1949
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 1: need to do, and then I can kind of blend

1950
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: into the walls and go back and enjoy a little

1951
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: quiet time in my hotel without getting punched or kicked

1952
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 1: in the face and told I want milk or juice.

1953
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: So you said that goodbye. Of course, last year as

1954
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,719
Speaker 1: far as being a player, and it's funny, Eric Wood

1955
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: was here Friday and we sat down to the practice game.

1956
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna do radio with us. Yeah, he did Bill's

1957
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins last December thirtieth, and I'll kind of I relived

1958
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 1: it over again. Could you imagine a better send off

1959
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 1: than that game for you to end your thirteen year

1960
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 1: career that way? Playing out offense, get catching a pass,

1961
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So I think it's twofold for

1962
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:34,560
Speaker 1: me in the moment. My thought process then at the

1963
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: time was all about team, and it kind of put

1964
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 1: me outside of my comfort zone a bit. I didn't

1965
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: want it to be about me. I didn't want to

1966
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 1: be a spectacle of myself. That's a reason. You know,

1967
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 1: I probably held that information in for not I wouldn't say,

1968
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, probably for a handful of weeks. I knew

1969
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: this is a direction we were going, and I would

1970
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: prefer to slip in the back door that Monday after

1971
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: the game and tell Sean. And but you know, he said,

1972
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 1: people need to know this, the guys need to know this.

1973
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 1: And the further I get away from it, and I'm

1974
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: sure it'll continue this way for many, many years, the

1975
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,600
Speaker 1: further I get away from it, the more I appreciate it,

1976
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: the more that it was such a special day, having

1977
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: my family on the field for callouts, for Sean calling

1978
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: time outs, and me wondering what is going on, and

1979
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: then to find out it's just so he could put

1980
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 1: me back on the field to take me off. You know,

1981
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: Like I said, the further we get away from that,

1982
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: the more that, um, you know, I'll value that and

1983
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 1: appreciate how the day went. Your victory lap with your

1984
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: family after the game was incredible. I've never seen anything

1985
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: like that in this stadium. Yeah, you know it was.

1986
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 1: It was an impromptuve deal. I was walking out of

1987
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 1: the tunnel and I saw some people that I knew,

1988
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: gave them a high five and kind of got the

1989
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 1: you know, got the section. As I was going out

1990
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: towards our tunnel and I looked up and I think

1991
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 1: some people had seen me, and I saw people coming

1992
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: back down from the lower bowl and coming back down

1993
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 1: to the field level. I s, well, I can't just

1994
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: hit this point, and I just kind of started and

1995
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of started in and as I got going, yeah,

1996
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 1: and it just kind of kept filling up and filling up,

1997
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: and you know, it was so much fun. And I

1998
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: think that you can see my my daughters right there

1999
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 1: behind me and my and my kids were walking with

2000
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 1: me just to get to to share that with them.

2001
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 1: And I was actually able to spend a moment this

2002
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: is my second daughter, ball in their eyes out walking

2003
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 1: off the field. Um. You know, I was able to

2004
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 1: share a moment with them literally five minutes after this

2005
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 1: um in the tunnel. And I'll tell them, I said,

2006
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: you know what we got to enjoy an experience today

2007
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 1: is because I made a decision a long time to

2008
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: give the best of myself and that, you know, to

2009
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 1: give it everything I had all the time. And I said,

2010
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,759
Speaker 1: we got to do today because I made that decision.

2011
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: I said, I hope whatever it is you decide to do,

2012
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: you make that decision too. And it was good. Somebody

2013
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: had mentioned that you said that how good you could

2014
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 1: you be if you just never quit? Yeah, you know,

2015
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: I've shared it and I want to go back because

2016
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 1: I think most people have heard it. But you know,

2017
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: a coach in my locker room shared the shared the message.

2018
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 1: I mean in the hallway one day said, you know,

2019
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: Kyle's a good player, but if he worked as hard

2020
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: as he could and he went as hard as he

2021
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 1: could all the time, he could be a special player.

2022
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: And it literally changed my attitude, change, you know, change

2023
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: the trajectory of my life. And you know, just my greatest,

2024
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: my greatest I think gift was as the Billy's like, Hey,

2025
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna quit. I'm just gonna keep going

2026
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: and keep going and just keep beating on the door.

2027
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, I enjoyed thirteen great

2028
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 1: years that went by in the blink of an eye.

2029
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams in studio with us. If you have a

2030
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 1: commodo or question, we got phone lines open eight oh

2031
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one

2032
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty, Kylas here

2033
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: for a few minutes if you'd like to say something

2034
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: to Kyle. You are here today for, among other things,

2035
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,759
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly's tournament over the weekend. But you're gonna speak

2036
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: with the Bills players. Are you about to do it

2037
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: like this afternoon? Have you already done it? Well? They

2038
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: have an education process here Rookie Club, So they bring

2039
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: a lot of people in and they hit a lot

2040
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 1: of different aspects to try to help, you know, bring

2041
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 1: them along and up to speed on just on what

2042
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 1: the NFL life has to all for you, you know,

2043
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, getting a leg up on this,

2044
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: what the pitfalls may be. So I'm gonna meet with

2045
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 1: the Rookie Club today. I've got to do some other

2046
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 1: stuff for the Bills, so it's just kind of a

2047
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,560
Speaker 1: full blown Bills weekend. It's been great. What would you

2048
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 1: tell yourself if you were in the rookie room today?

2049
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 1: What would you tell the old Kyle Williams thirteen years ago?

2050
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: I think for me, no matter how good I felt,

2051
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 1: I would try to get a jump start on body maintenance.

2052
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: And obviously I mean even from when you played to

2053
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 1: when I played things changed so much. And then from

2054
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: the beginning of my career to now, things have changed

2055
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 1: so much. So obviously I didn't have everything at my fingertips.

2056
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 1: These guys have now, just the different kinds of therapy,

2057
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: the different products available to them. But I would have said, hey,

2058
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 1: don't wait until you feel bad to start, you know,

2059
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,560
Speaker 1: repairing your body and taking care of your body in

2060
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. But that's hard to tell

2061
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: somebody that's twenty two years old. That feels great. They

2062
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 1: could eat man, yeah, and I would say less diet,

2063
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 1: but just like you know, trying to take care of

2064
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: yourself physically, make sure you're doing the right things. How

2065
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 1: about this facility, the new one, it's great, you know,

2066
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: I've gotten a lot of videos and pictures from it

2067
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 1: and it's amazing. And how kind of laughed I told her,

2068
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,679
Speaker 1: But I said, yeah, that's awesome to look at. I said,

2069
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: that looks like a lot of work to me. Yeah, yeah,

2070
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 1: it's full time job in there. But no, it's beautiful.

2071
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: Having been around and have a lot of friends around

2072
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: knowing that this place and it's I mean it's natash

2073
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 1: mahal A's as good as again with Kyle Williams. Again,

2074
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,879
Speaker 1: you can phone in a commodo or question. Hey, obviously

2075
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 1: thirteen years, your contributions on the field are you know,

2076
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: there's a ton of them, but off the field as well,

2077
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 1: and in terms of leadership, we got this question going

2078
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: on our show here today, Kyled, I wonder if you

2079
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: can weigh in on. It's a Twitter pole question, which

2080
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 1: player on the Bill's defense right now will emerge as

2081
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 1: a leader? And we got eight hundred votes and we

2082
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: got pretty good response. Seventy four percent of respondents on

2083
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 1: Twitter say formIn Edmunds, nineteen percent say Micah Hide, two

2084
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: percent say start Lola, six percent of somebody else. In mind,

2085
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: we left Lorenzo out. He already is a leader, so

2086
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to emerge as a leader. But what

2087
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 1: do you think of that question? And what do you

2088
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 1: think of those responses? Are we missing anybody? Well? I

2089
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: think that I would have left Mica out as well,

2090
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: because Mike as a leader too. He always has been

2091
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 1: ever since he got here in the secondary and what

2092
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: he's been able to do. And I think as far

2093
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: as someone emerging someone that hasn't been around, it would

2094
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 1: definitely for me, it would be Tremaine because of the

2095
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: position he plays. He's a quarterback of the of the defense,

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01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 1: you know, and you try to watch him grow and

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01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 1: try to bring him along last year, you know, as

2098
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: the season progressed. Now he's going to continue to get better.

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01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 1: The game's gonna slow down for him. He's going to

2100
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 1: see more. He's gonna see more things on the field.

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01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna know what's happening. He's gonna be able to

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01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 1: break down situations and personnels, and it's really really going

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01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,719
Speaker 1: to be important for him to take that next step,

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01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 1: not just as a player, but as a voice of

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01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 1: the defense, as the quarterback of the defense, so to speak.

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01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 1: What do you think it will look like with Tremaine?

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01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 1: You know what, what's the ceiling on him? What's he

2108
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 1: gonna look like in this year? If he takes the

2109
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 1: same leap he took last year, I think he's gonna

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01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 1: be a top notch player just because of athleticism, all

2111
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 1: his tangible things that you can put a ruler on.

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01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 1: He's got all those things. But the things that you

2113
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: wouldn't know about him is how he prepares the game's

2114
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: important to him. How he practices. You know, you could

2115
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 1: go out and watch the guy practice, the guy flies

2116
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 1: around the practice field. So when you watch a guy

2117
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: the way that he prepares and he practices and he

2118
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 1: does it the right way, you know it's important to him.

2119
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: So when it's important to him, the ceilings a limit,

2120
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,680
Speaker 1: especially for a guy that's physically as talented as he is.

2121
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams our guests he Kyle the Bills drafted with

2122
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: their first round pick and Oliver out of University of

2123
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: Houston to play three technique. You made a chance to

2124
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 1: watch him practice. What did you think, Well, he's limited today.

2125
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 1: He didn't do many team drills, but I was able

2126
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: to cover the combine for NFL Network, so I'll watched

2127
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 1: some film on him, watched him play in college, and

2128
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: got to see him do some individual work today. So

2129
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: you see an explosive, powerful athlete that's gonna grow into

2130
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 1: getting better and better because it's gonna be a different

2131
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,719
Speaker 1: scheme for him. He played a lot of zero technique

2132
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 1: at the University of Houston. Now he's going to be

2133
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: able to playing a lot of three technique. Where go

2134
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: They're going to ask him to showcase his explosiveness, his athleticism,

2135
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 1: So there'll be a bit of a curve there. But

2136
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: once he gets comfortable, I think you're gonna see him

2137
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 1: get a little bit better, a little bit better, a

2138
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 1: little bit better, and he's just going to continue to

2139
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 1: get better, and he'll eventually take off because of his

2140
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 1: elite skill set. We were talking about leadership a minute ago.

2141
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: In your role, I mean, I think the last several

2142
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: years you made a lot of the Bill's pass rush

2143
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 1: calls right while you were playing out on the field.

2144
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 1: How did you get ready for that? How much film

2145
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: did you have to watch to do that sort of thing?

2146
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 1: I watched a lot, and it came down to for

2147
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 1: me preparing through the week. I wanted to be able

2148
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 1: to come in on Wednesday when we were putting our

2149
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,879
Speaker 1: game plan together and be able to provide our defense,

2150
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 1: not just our front with keys of run pass keys.

2151
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 1: What's this guy doing, what's that guy doing? What works

2152
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: well against each one of these guys, not just then

2153
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 1: Tier or three who I was going to see mostly,

2154
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: but the tackles. How could I help Jerry? How could

2155
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 1: I help Trent? And you go back downline? So I've

2156
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 1: done that for quite a time now, but it was

2157
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 1: just really important to know that I would know how

2158
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: they set their protections and what I could do to

2159
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: put us in the best position to be, you know,

2160
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 1: successful in the way that we were rushing. Is you're

2161
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 1: a likely candidate on the roster now to fill that role,

2162
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 1: to do that jobty thing. Well, I think the natural

2163
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 1: selection would be Lorenzo um As he moves in. You know,

2164
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 1: he'll play linebacker, he'll kick down in on third downs,

2165
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: he can play inside and outside on thurn downs. But

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01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 1: it's easy like Jerry will be fine, Lorenzo's fine, Trent

2167
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: will be fine, because there's a whole lot of nonverbal

2168
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: communication that goes without hey, you know, making like point

2169
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 1: at guys, Hey, we have to change the way that

2170
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 1: we're we have to flip our whole pass rush plan

2171
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: just based on a look and a point. So there

2172
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:47,759
Speaker 1: a lot of that comes with growing and spending time together.

2173
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: But naturally Lorenzo would be someone who's could do it

2174
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 1: as well as I did, and did it as well

2175
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: as I did when when he was in and I

2176
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: wasn't in. We've heard a common refrain that this is

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01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: all a work in progress. What are some reasonable expectations

2178
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: from players and coaches about you know, when you finish

2179
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: up mini camp and every kind of scatters to the

2180
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,560
Speaker 1: four wins before training camp. What are some reasonable expectations

2181
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: for where the team should be. Well, I think number one,

2182
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 1: they want to get through mini camp healthy. Yeah, you

2183
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 1: don't want anybody set back. And obviously they've had a

2184
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 1: rash of injuries here a little bit through OTAs. So

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01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 1: you want to get through mini camp healthy headed into

2186
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: training camp, and you want guys to take a little

2187
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: time off because you're about to hit the grind of

2188
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: the season. It's gonna get tough, it's gonna get long,

2189
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: So take a little time off for fresher mind, but

2190
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 1: get prepared physically to play, you know, sixteen plus football

2191
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 1: games and come into camp in shape and be ready

2192
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,560
Speaker 1: to commit to the effort of the team to the

2193
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 1: direction they want to go, which it's tough and it's

2194
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 1: hard and it's grueling, you know that. So being mentally

2195
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: fresh and physical physically prepared are the two most important

2196
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 1: things in my opinion when you're coming into camp. Hey, Kyle,

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01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 1: you spend some time a couple of different occasions on

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01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 1: the NFL network, this office and so far. Tell me

2199
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: about the combine experience, what you like doing about that

2200
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 1: and how you like that whole experience down in India.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun being an Indie because

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01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to get on the field and

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01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 1: watch these guys eye to eye, watch them compete, watch

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01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: them and encourage and push each other, and see how

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01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: they work. Honestly, so I enjoyed watching the guys that

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01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: you knew were productive during the year, and you saw

2207
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: the physical ability on that field match up to their production,

2208
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So you know, you see these guys,

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01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 1: they'll go blow the combine up, they run this really

2210
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 1: fast forty time, or they have this really incredible vertical jump,

2211
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: but nobody heard a lot from them during the season

2212
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: during football. You know, they're just an incredible athlete. The

2213
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 1: ones I enjoyed watching were the guys that you heard

2214
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: about all fall and then you watch their numbers and

2215
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,679
Speaker 1: they're testing back up all of that and you're like, Okay,

2216
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 1: now understand why this guy has elite physical ability as

2217
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 1: a player. Did you have a good combine thirteen years ago?

2218
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 1: I think I had a good combine. You know, as

2219
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 1: far as I know it ended up working out. It

2220
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter at this point. I'm never running another forty again.

2221
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 1: And I don't think I've run one since I left

2222
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 1: Endy that day. So you know, I think I did

2223
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 1: okay at the combine, but I was I was more

2224
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,560
Speaker 1: of a I was a football player, right, Yeah. Is

2225
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: there any stark differences to what you see? How like

2226
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 1: the trends in college football translating into the pros we

2227
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 1: see now with the first pick of the draft is

2228
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and they're going to run a different kind

2229
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: offense with him as a quarterback. Is there anything like

2230
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: that going on your side of the ball, the defensive

2231
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: side of the ball, that maybe is giving the NFL

2232
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 1: different types of athletes. I think the most changes you

2233
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 1: see are offensively with the spread and you know, basketball

2234
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 1: on turf, kind of getting people in space, personnel, you know,

2235
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 1: kind of slinging the ball around. The building blocks are defense?

2236
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: Are the building blocks of defense? And I always had

2237
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 1: van it doesn't matter if you play a three four

2238
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 1: four three, you know, it's always kind of the same.

2239
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 1: You know, there's only so much you can get creative there.

2240
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: You have to play fundamentally sound with great effort and toughness.

2241
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 1: So defensively, I see a lot of that, But what

2242
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 1: I see is a lot of times these offensive guys

2243
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 1: coming into the league. Now, depending on what kind of

2244
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 1: system they go into, it takes a bit for the

2245
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 1: transition because they're having to be whitewashed. They're having to

2246
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: rather than just run side to side, you know, playing

2247
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: zone and doing those types of things, they have to

2248
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: you know, step with the crep footwork. They have to

2249
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 1: block guys, they have to be able to play physical.

2250
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 1: So a lot of these guys are gonna have to

2251
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 1: get whitewash and retaught when they come to the league offensively.

2252
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 1: You spent time on NFL Network what last week, two

2253
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago, a couple of weeks ago in the studio

2254
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 1: on Los Angeles? Sure, what were you doing? How'd you

2255
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: like that? It was good. I just did some in

2256
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 1: studio analyst stuff for All Access Live. Spent a couple

2257
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 1: of days out there, had a good time. Was with

2258
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne, fellow Louisiana guy. So we had a good time.

2259
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: Was that your future? Do you think you know? We'll

2260
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: see you know, I'm not married to anything. I don't

2261
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: have anything. Uh in concrete, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed

2262
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 1: my couple of days out there. I've had good feedback

2263
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: from them, and I'm not in h I'm not in

2264
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:00,759
Speaker 1: a sprint to get anywhere. You might be be married anything,

2265
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 1: but you're married to somebody, and she keeps reminding me

2266
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, it's hard to that's a big decision now,

2267
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean because it's easy enough to do it, you know,

2268
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 1: for your football career and and how lucrative it is

2269
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 1: and prosperous it makes you. But when you can make choices,

2270
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 1: sometimes it's the best choice is not to make one,

2271
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 1: is just to do what you want to do. Yeah, yeah,

2272
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 1: it is. And that's uh, that's at the tip top

2273
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: of my my decision making process. I was lucky enough

2274
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: that we married coming into the league. I couldn't have

2275
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 1: imagined having a better partner, somebody to share this with.

2276
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: So and obviously we have five great kids, beautiful healthy children.

2277
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:44,640
Speaker 1: So any decision I make, whether it's doing this, doing that,

2278
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,639
Speaker 1: it will always start with, well, how does this affect then?

2279
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 1: So that's one thing that I that I always keep

2280
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 1: in mind. You found some time for golf a week

2281
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: or so ago too, with the US Amateur four Ball

2282
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: Championship out in Oregon, and you did well. You your

2283
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 1: partner was an LSU friend of your. No, he actually

2284
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 1: played golf at Centenary. He was a He was a

2285
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: kid in Baton Rouge when I moved down for college,

2286
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 1: and he was a young guy. He was probably thirteen

2287
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,600
Speaker 1: and birth a lot, yeah, Greg, birth a lot. And

2288
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 1: I moved to college, I was nineteen years old, and

2289
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 1: I'd go play golf out at this club and he

2290
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 1: and a couple other guys, Andrew Luke who played on

2291
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. They were all about twelve thirteen years

2292
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 1: old years old. Yeah, I'm nineteen. They knew I played football,

2293
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: so they wanted to talk about LSU football because LSU

2294
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 1: football and Baton Rouge is you know, big right. I

2295
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: didn't know anybody, and they were good kids. I was

2296
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 1: nice to them, and they're like, you want to play

2297
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 1: golf with us, So yeah, I'll play golf with you.

2298
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 1: So I'd play golf with him and have a good time. Little. Well,

2299
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: now you know we're older. He's he's getting married and

2300
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 1: he's become a really good golf buddy, and he turned

2301
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 1: professional for a while and kind of got out of it,

2302
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 1: got his amateur status back. He's he's a working man

2303
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 1: now and we enjoyed playing golf together, and we've won

2304
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 1: our actual state four ball tournament before, and this was

2305
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 1: our first opportunity to try to qualify for that, the

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01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 1: new USGA turn uh and we qualified at a tournament

2307
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: was the biggest tournament, biggest qualifier in the country last year,

2308
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,679
Speaker 1: was eighty six teams and we won. We shot sixty

2309
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 1: four in the qualifier and won the qualifier and we're

2310
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 1: able to go to Oregon and play in the National Championship.

2311
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 1: So it'd be Steve and I are on a team.

2312
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 1: Steve plays his ball, I played my ball. He makes

2313
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 1: a four. I make a five. Our team takes his four. Okay,

2314
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 1: and four guys doing that. No, No, it's just us two.

2315
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 1: It's just us two. Yeah, and we So there were

2316
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 1: two days of stroke play and I think we finished

2317
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 1: maybe ten under, somewhere around like six seventh. About making birdies,

2318
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 1: so yeah, So we go through the stroke play and

2319
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 1: then the top thirty two they put into match play.

2320
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: And then once you get into match play, it is

2321
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 1: about birdies. And we won our first match, made a

2322
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 1: lot of birdies. The second match, we hit the ball

2323
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: find we just couldn't get the ball in the hold,

2324
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 1: didn't make enough birdies. Played against a good team and

2325
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 1: we got eliminated. So that's kind of I read an

2326
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 1: article said that three thousand teams tried to qualify, one

2327
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight did and then thirty two make

2328
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: it into match play and they played out from there. Yeah,

2329
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 1: so you were at the top of the tip. That's

2330
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 1: the last thirty two teams. Yeah, we we we did well. Um.

2331
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,680
Speaker 1: It's good to have a good partner. Yeah, yeah, yea,

2332
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 1: it always is, right, sure, Kyle Lessings. Yeah, I'm certainly

2333
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: not a good partner. Hey, Kyle, Um, So you're just

2334
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: launching into this next phase of your life. Do you

2335
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: have that sense like like doors are wide up for

2336
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: your golf obviously what you've always played a lot of,

2337
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 1: but broadcasting and all this family time, which I would

2338
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 1: think is pretty appealing. And you're at home right now

2339
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 1: for the most part, at a time when maybe in

2340
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 1: the last ten fifteen years you have not been right. Yeah,

2341
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 1: I haven't been I haven't been able to do it.

2342
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: You know, during this time of the year, either I'm

2343
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 1: flying back and forth across the country to go see family.

2344
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm here mini camp, training camp. You're going to training camp.

2345
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 1: You're going for a month yeah, you know, and going

2346
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: to the season. I mean it's just, you know, it's

2347
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: like a black hole. You you go in six months

2348
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 1: and you pop out six months later, you know, and

2349
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 1: you're like, you missed a lot, and you're doing a

2350
01:52:56,920 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: lot of different things. So it's it's fun. I don't

2351
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: sit still very well, so I do like to stay busy,

2352
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,640
Speaker 1: and if somebody doesn't give me something to do, I

2353
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 1: always can invent something to do and makes my wife

2354
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,600
Speaker 1: roll our eyes quite a bit, but it provides me

2355
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 1: the free time that I enjoy. I was able to

2356
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 1: coach two teams this year of my kids, softball and baseball.

2357
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 1: They're getting into basketball and golf and all these different things.

2358
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 1: So it's really a sweet time of having the freedom

2359
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 1: to be there for them and watch them, but also

2360
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,759
Speaker 1: having enough opportunity that I can go out and challenge

2361
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 1: myself in different ways that I've never had before. Have

2362
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 1: you thought about what your fault is gonna look like

2363
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 1: if you meet like, because you're gonna wake up and

2364
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be I got nothing to do? Have you

2365
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 1: thought about I got to find something to occupy me. Yeah,

2366
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: I've got a few. I've got a few things out there,

2367
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 1: but there's you know, really nothing kind like I said,

2368
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: concrete to report, you know, working on a couple of

2369
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,600
Speaker 1: different things, and so we'll just see, you know. Like

2370
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not married to jumping into neck deep

2371
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: into anything right now, but I will. I will find something.

2372
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 1: I will do some kind of bridge work and do

2373
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: some different things to find out what. You know, Hey,

2374
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 1: maybe what what am I really passionate about? What do

2375
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 1: I really want to what I want to dive into?

2376
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Obviously I know this game I love, and I love

2377
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 1: the concept of team and what that bills inside of

2378
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 1: you and what it takes from you. So I do

2379
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: enjoy that. But as far as long term, hey, this

2380
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do, this is what I'm passionate about.

2381
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:21,760
Speaker 1: We're not there yet, but I'm I'm very lucky. I've

2382
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 1: I've had a great career and I've got some got

2383
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 1: some really compelling options. Right world is wide open to

2384
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 1: you and very nice. You're You're gonna be what thirty

2385
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: six next Monday, That's right, That's why I cannot wait

2386
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 1: to get my gift from you. I'm looking forward to.

2387
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's the same thing you got me last year. Yeah,

2388
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 1: it probably will be. You got guy. It's good to

2389
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 1: be here with you, Kylewe's back with the Bills today,

2390
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 1: keeping an eye n Ota, Steve and I coming back

2391
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: with more one goals live from one. Bill's Driving. This

2392
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We're going back one Bills lide

2393
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 1: from one He'll drive, John Murphy, Steve Cancer. It's always

2394
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 1: great to have Kyle Williams in here right playing, not playing,

2395
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 1: talking about golf, talking about kids. Solid dude, solid man.

2396
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 1: I love having him on the show. You know, he's

2397
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: he's got a real knack for dispensing wisdom. Yeah. I

2398
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,840
Speaker 1: used some of the things that he I've heard him

2399
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: saying pregame speeches and like that thing I just said,

2400
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: he goes. You know somebody he started. One of his

2401
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: high school coaches said, you know, Kyle's a really nice player.

2402
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: But if he tried as hard as he could, worked

2403
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 1: as hard as he could, uh, he'd be a special player.

2404
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 1: Who did he say? That? Said one of his college

2405
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 1: and it's one of his high school coaches. High school,

2406
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 1: and it changed the trajectory of his life. And you know,

2407
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's a thirteen year NFL set

2408
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 1: and all time great for a franchise. It's one of

2409
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 1: the all time favorite franchise players. Yeah, it's good. It's

2410
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: good to hear. And you know, some of the stuff

2411
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 1: he said in those pregame speeches. Yeah, it gives me chills,

2412
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 1: you know. And you all gave me chokes towards the

2413
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 1: end of the interview. And I'm looking up and looked

2414
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 1: at his age. His birthdays next week he would be

2415
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 1: thirty six, and the world is wide open too. A look,

2416
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: he's got tons of money, which is if that's important

2417
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 1: to you, that's good to have. He's got this great family,

2418
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 1: five kids and his wife Jill. He's got all kinds

2419
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 1: of free time to do every kind of family thing

2420
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 1: he wants. He's got opportunities in broadcasting. He's playing golf

2421
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: at a championship level on the national stage, right, I mean,

2422
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 1: talk about it. Guy, he's got it like at age

2423
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 1: thirty six. Good for him. I'm happy for him. I

2424
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 1: thought it was great to talk with him. Yeah, is

2425
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 1: an easy, easy person to root for, ye and to

2426
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 1: feel good about. And he's you know, and all that

2427
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 1: stuff you just said is what makes him one of

2428
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 1: those leadership guys, one of those guys that you rally around.

2429
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: He lives his life in such a way as this.

2430
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 1: These things that the result of that, and and it's

2431
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 1: easy to cheer for him. You want to join a

2432
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 1: guy like that, you want to be on that team.

2433
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: That's what a leader does. That's kind of one of

2434
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: the topics of our show today and one of the

2435
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 1: reasons we brought that topic up was guys was Kyle

2436
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: and his fact that he was back in town. Hey,

2437
01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:01,200
Speaker 1: twitter poll today deals with Kyle kind of which player

2438
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 1: on defense emerges now as a leader for the Buffalo Bills.

2439
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 1: He mentioned Tremaine Edmonds. But what do you think we take.

2440
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 1: We'll take your tweet on that on the tweet sheet.

2441
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 1: We'll take your phone calls under wide open eight o

2442
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,760
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

2443
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Here's an interesting tweet about

2444
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 1: an earlier guest on the show. Dave Kampling says, one

2445
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: Bill's live. Please post a link to today's interview with

2446
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 1: a great Jack Armstrong. He says, I thought I was

2447
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 1: nearing NBA Finals talk fatigue, but couldn't get enough of

2448
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 1: your chat. Thanks well, you're welcome, Dave Kapling, Thank you Look,

2449
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 1: I don't listen to a whole lot of sports talk show,

2450
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: so I don't know, you know, NBA Finals talk fatigue.

2451
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have that I watched. I have watched at first. Well,

2452
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 1: I watched Game one and tried to watch Game two Sunday.

2453
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not fatigued from talking about it, especially with

2454
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 1: the guy who I know who is so plugged in,

2455
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 1: like Jack Armstrong. That was a fun segment. Layer. Yeah,

2456
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: nobody's plugged in as Jack has. He watched every single

2457
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: game of the eighty two game schedule the Raptors this

2458
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 1: year and they're in the finals. Plus he hit that

2459
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 1: historical perspective being around exactly and he he's seen that

2460
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 1: team from the ground up. And he also has that

2461
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 1: background in coaching where you heard him talk about Steph

2462
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 1: Curry and how he's he's maybe the greatest shooter in

2463
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 1: the league the league has ever seen. Not because he's

2464
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 1: the best guy that catch and shoot, and maybe he's

2465
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 1: not the best guy creating his own shot, but the

2466
01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: two of them together, he's the best with both those

2467
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 1: skills and just you know, off and off the bounce,

2468
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 1: you know he as he said, and it's it's fun

2469
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 1: to listen to him talk, because he's got a great

2470
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 1: sense of human he's got a you know, he's obviously

2471
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 1: got a high IQ and in basketball and us just

2472
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 1: a sweetheart of a guy too. I didn't meet him

2473
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 1: until after I retired from football, so I'm I've got

2474
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 1: a kind of a newer relationship with him. Good man, Yeah,

2475
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 1: good guess I'll take a phone call on a topic

2476
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 1: not on our agenda, but it's on this agenda. Tom

2477
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 1: and Buffalo will go ahead to Tim. You're on there?

2478
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 1: Are you still there? Tom and Buffalo no longer there?

2479
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 1: Tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

2480
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills. On the tweet sheet,

2481
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 1: when we ask the question which playing around defense will

2482
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:06,839
Speaker 1: emerge as a leader for the Bills, Jeremiah Ortiz tweets

2483
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 1: in Edmunds Tremaine, he's got all the physical and mental tools.

2484
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 1: He already began to show it last season, and he's

2485
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: the anchor of the defense. It's kind of what Kyle

2486
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: said to Speed. Yeah, absolutely, and that seems to be he.

2487
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 1: Edmunds seems to be running away with the Twitter poll today,

2488
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 1: although we do have Steve Noble chimes, and he says,

2489
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:27,960
Speaker 1: I believe we have three layers leaders in three layers

2490
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 1: on the defense, Micah Hides leader of the DBS, Zoe's

2491
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 1: leader of the line Brackers while grooming Edmunds for that job.

2492
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 1: And with the loss of Kyle, I believe Jerry Hughes

2493
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 1: will have to emerge as the leader of the d line.

2494
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 1: So I vote other and Jerry Hughes, which is an

2495
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 1: interesting take. Yeah, it's you do need more more than

2496
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 1: one leaders is fine as long as they're, you know,

2497
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 1: the right type of guy. And Jerry Hughes has been

2498
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 1: has blossomed into a great pass rusher for the Buffalo Bills,

2499
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 1: and the more help he gets this year the better.

2500
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 1: But certainly he's tried to lead by example in the past. Yeah,

2501
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would look at him for leadership.

2502
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:08,560
Speaker 1: I've looked at him for past rush pressure. I looked

2503
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 1: him for a high level of play, which he's had

2504
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 1: for a couple of years now. But I think there

2505
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: are other candidates and emerging as a leader. Look, if

2506
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:17,480
Speaker 1: if Jerry was going to emerge as a leader, woudn't

2507
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 1: you think it would have happened by now? I don't

2508
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 1: know right. I agree. That's why we kind of put

2509
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:27,000
Speaker 1: that emerged word in the in the Twitter poll. Somebody

2510
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:29,920
Speaker 1: who's you know, hasn't been that in the past, and

2511
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 1: and or who was new to the team and you

2512
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 1: were hoping is growing and you see it in there,

2513
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 1: in something in their personality that's going to put them

2514
02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 1: on the top. We got another one from Brian Rosinghall.

2515
02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:42,240
Speaker 1: My guess is Trey White. He was this regime's first

2516
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 1: pick stell or DNA on and off the field. Although

2517
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: the role may not have as big a field presence

2518
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 1: as others. Being a cornerback, he's the whole package in

2519
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 1: meetings and locker room. McDermott loves him and Edmonds needs

2520
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:59,400
Speaker 1: more time, okay, and try and listen. Trey White was

2521
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 1: good from day one of day one OTAs his rookie year.

2522
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 1: He was really good and has and has not disappointed.

2523
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 1: He's energetic, he's gregarious, he loves it. The crowd loves him.

2524
02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 1: He's the happiest guy you'll ever watch play football. And

2525
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 1: you're right, I think he's built for it. He's got

2526
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 1: it in there and it's a good observation too. It's

2527
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 1: tough to play corner and be the centerpiece. You know

2528
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, it's soft to standoff on the sidelines,

2529
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:29,919
Speaker 1: on the edge of the defense and be the centerpiece

2530
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 1: of the defense. But he certainly has the ability. From

2531
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet and when we asked the question which

2532
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 1: player on defense will emerge as a leader on defense,

2533
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:41,400
Speaker 1: Bob At, the notorious Bob tweets this, and Starlato Lay

2534
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 1: is the quiet guy who leads by example and says

2535
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:47,879
Speaker 1: something when need be. Tremaine will slowly grow into eventually

2536
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:51,080
Speaker 1: a leader. Zoe and Hide will be the vocal fire

2537
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:53,480
Speaker 1: up guy. Leaders all the great all are great for

2538
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 1: Tremaine to see and use and develop his own style. Okay,

2539
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 1: I can see that. You know it's not a thing,

2540
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 1: and you can speak this team. Tremaine could be a

2541
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 1: leader this year, could develop, develop and emerge as a

2542
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:07,840
Speaker 1: leader even more next year. Right. I mean players change,

2543
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 1: Players approach changes during the course of their careers. Right Yeah.

2544
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 1: And it's also the point where, like, for instance, you

2545
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 1: always see the end product, Like when Kyle Williams retires,

2546
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 1: you see him as the end product of a thirteen

2547
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:22,879
Speaker 1: year career and the same team at the same same position,

2548
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 1: and more and more of the players that are here

2549
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: are he was here when they got here, you know

2550
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:32,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's a fixture. So even the veteran

2551
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:35,280
Speaker 1: players are still looking to a guy like Kyle at

2552
02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:37,160
Speaker 1: the end of his career to be that kind of guy.

2553
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:40,080
Speaker 1: So the young players don't know any different. So now

2554
02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 1: you're going to have a new generation of young players

2555
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 1: who emerge and who learned from a guy like Kyle

2556
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 1: and learned from a guy like Lorenzo Alexander, who who

2557
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 1: adapt all of those things to their personality and become

2558
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 1: the type of leader their best at becoming. So it's

2559
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 1: it's one. It's it really is a generational thing, no question,

2560
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 1: but it does take time and you evolve into it.

2561
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 1: Like you said, Tremaine's gonna be a much different player

2562
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 1: this year than he was a year ago, and next

2563
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 1: year he'll be a little more different, maybe vastly different,

2564
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 1: and the year after that and the year after that.

2565
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 1: So none of these guys are a finished product today

2566
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:17,880
Speaker 1: in May of twenty nineteen, and they won't be at

2567
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:19,360
Speaker 1: the end of the season either, but they will be

2568
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 1: further down that road. Which player on defense will emerge

2569
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:23,800
Speaker 1: as a leader for the Bills let's take a call here,

2570
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 1: Greg in Florida. Hello, Greg, go ahead, you're on the air.

2571
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:30,360
Speaker 1: Is David Florida. David Florida. I'm sorry, go ahead, Dave.

2572
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,760
Speaker 1: All right, listen, I gotta pick Matt Milano. Really nobody

2573
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 1: seems to talk about if he's still hurting, right, he's

2574
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 1: been practicing. Yeah, he's not hurting anymore. He's practicing full

2575
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:44,000
Speaker 1: speed these days. As my boat, that's my man. Well,

2576
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 1: why do you see him as a leader? I liked

2577
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 1: I like a style, and like the way he plays.

2578
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:52,880
Speaker 1: He's a headsy player and he seems to get the

2579
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 1: job done. I mean, you know, I just like, I

2580
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 1: don't know him personally like you guys do, but I

2581
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 1: just see him as a player on the field where

2582
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 1: I could see your ball games, and he's the guy

2583
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 1: I liked his I liked his attitude, and I like

2584
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:06,920
Speaker 1: his hustle. That's the one thing I noticed about Matt

2585
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:08,840
Speaker 1: Milano when he was a rookie. You know, he kind

2586
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 1: of pumped up and you know, jumped into the consciousness

2587
02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 1: of everybody. He had that tipped interception for a touchdown

2588
02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:18,880
Speaker 1: against the Raiders in a home game. But he tends

2589
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:22,800
Speaker 1: to show up where the ball is. And two years

2590
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:24,560
Speaker 1: ago when he was a rookie and the Bills were

2591
02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:28,920
Speaker 1: churning out turnover after turnover after turnover, and it just

2592
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 1: seemed like Matt Milano was always around it, either causing

2593
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 1: it or taking advantage of it. And that gives you

2594
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:40,400
Speaker 1: the sense that, you know, he's a smart, heads up

2595
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:44,640
Speaker 1: ball player, really alert ball player. And uh, you know,

2596
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 1: last year he lost, he got his season cut short

2597
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 1: because of a of a broken leg, but I think

2598
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 1: he was he was having a much better season in

2599
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:53,400
Speaker 1: his second year that he did in his first, and

2600
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 1: it was it was really something to see. But I

2601
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:59,320
Speaker 1: agree with you. The perception about Milano to me is

2602
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:03,160
Speaker 1: dictated by the fact that he just shows up all

2603
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:06,240
Speaker 1: the time, right Yeah, in these splash plays by the

2604
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:09,280
Speaker 1: defense and these almost huge plays by the defense in

2605
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:14,480
Speaker 1: the in the you know, the horrific play by an offense,

2606
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:17,560
Speaker 1: an opponent's offense, Milano seems to always be in the

2607
02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 1: middle of it. And whether that's by you know, design

2608
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:25,280
Speaker 1: or just by alertness, you got to give him a

2609
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:27,960
Speaker 1: lot of credit for that. I do give him credit.

2610
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:30,320
Speaker 1: Bill's wrapped up the Rota about an hour or so

2611
02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 1: ago earlier in the day, Sean McDermott met with the

2612
02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 1: media and he talked about a different topic that I've

2613
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 1: mentioned a few times, how I think Bill's fans are

2614
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 1: underestimating the impact of the new coaches on the staff,

2615
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:44,680
Speaker 1: right new wide receivers coach Chad Hall, new offensive line

2616
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 1: coach Bobby Johnson, and a new quarterbacks coach, Ken Dorsey.

2617
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was asked earlier today about Dorsey's relationship with

2618
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and McDermott says the two of them have

2619
02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:56,960
Speaker 1: a really good relationship working already after just what six

2620
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 1: or eight weeks here in Archard Park. Here's what he

2621
02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 1: had to say. Yeah, that's you know, it's never easy

2622
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 1: when you're a staff a new staff member coming into

2623
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 1: a situation where the staff was pretty much already in place.

2624
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 1: And I would say the same for Bobby and all

2625
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 1: of our new coaches, including Ken, Terry Heffernan Ryan, when

2626
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:19,680
Speaker 1: all these guys that that heath no different that have

2627
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:22,919
Speaker 1: come in, they've done a really a fantastic job integrating

2628
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 1: themselves into what we do, how we do it, really

2629
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:28,120
Speaker 1: working long hours when their families haven't been here, in

2630
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:32,040
Speaker 1: particular to get themselves up to speed and learn our systems,

2631
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 1: learn how we do things. And then that relationship specifically

2632
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:39,240
Speaker 1: with Ken and Josh is again he's coming into a

2633
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:42,240
Speaker 1: room where you know, Brian does a lot of work

2634
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks already, so finding that niche role in

2635
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: position and then having a voice and a trusted voice

2636
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:54,680
Speaker 1: and earning that with Brian, And that's been fun to watch.

2637
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 1: Josh has had a solid spring. He continues to grow

2638
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:02,040
Speaker 1: and evolved is what's to be expected for a young

2639
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:05,000
Speaker 1: playing on quarterback. And Kenn has had has had a

2640
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,480
Speaker 1: big role in that. And I think that's just getting started.

2641
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:09,560
Speaker 1: That's my take out. It's eve. I think the relationship

2642
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:12,080
Speaker 1: between those two is just getting started. And you know,

2643
02:07:12,160 --> 02:07:13,800
Speaker 1: and you can speak to this more than any of us.

2644
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 1: In the heat of the season, when things don't always

2645
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:19,600
Speaker 1: go well, those two I think will bond even closer,

2646
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,320
Speaker 1: don't you think the quarterback coach and his second year

2647
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 1: quarterback now Josh Allen, They and you know how it works.

2648
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 1: The the flack will fly when things don't go well

2649
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:31,360
Speaker 1: and they will almost kind of close ranks, I think

2650
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 1: is the way it happens, right, Adversity and when you

2651
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 1: endure adversity together, you grow close because you know you're

2652
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:40,320
Speaker 1: both trying the hardest to help the other out. You

2653
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 1: know you're both you're all trying to be successful and

2654
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 1: you're pulling the same way. And there's a lot of people,

2655
02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, criticizing you, and there's a lot of pressure

2656
02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 1: outside of that room. But it's inside that room where

2657
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:52,120
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of guys that are cheering for

2658
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:54,920
Speaker 1: you and helping you. And that's that's when you grow close.

2659
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, Josh Allen and John Dorsey,

2660
02:07:57,920 --> 02:07:59,320
Speaker 1: you're going to get to that point. There's it's not

2661
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:00,960
Speaker 1: going to be a better Roses this year. I mean,

2662
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some ups and downs, and that's when

2663
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:06,040
Speaker 1: that relationship is forged. I will say this about Sean

2664
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:10,280
Speaker 1: McDermott and the new coaches on the staff. He had

2665
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 1: some good coaches last year. You don't get to the

2666
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 1: NFL and you get you don't get considered for these

2667
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 1: positional coaches unless you bring something to the table, like

2668
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:20,440
Speaker 1: for instance, last year. Terry Robiski has a long pedigree

2669
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 1: of experience in the National Football League at different levels,

2670
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:29,520
Speaker 1: both from the coordinator on down through positional coaches. But

2671
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:31,440
Speaker 1: he is a guy who's along and the two it

2672
02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 1: has been in the league thirty five years. I think

2673
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:36,040
Speaker 1: the one trend that I see in Sean McDermott with

2674
02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 1: this coaching staff and the moves that he has made

2675
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:40,920
Speaker 1: recently and for the last year and a half have

2676
02:08:41,120 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 1: been about finding young, up and coming, ambitious, hungry, young

2677
02:08:47,240 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 1: coaches who are energetic connect with a younger generation of players,

2678
02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 1: and who are not just former players but football coaches

2679
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:02,720
Speaker 1: who are asked aspiring football coaches whether they played in

2680
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 1: the NFL or not. They're young guys who want to

2681
02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:09,680
Speaker 1: be a coach. They're not. They don't come into coaching

2682
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:13,560
Speaker 1: as shrugging their shoulders, like I never never really thought

2683
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 1: about doing anything other than football, so now it's time

2684
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 1: for me to go into coaching because I can't play anymore.

2685
02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 1: These are guys who want to be coaches because it's

2686
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:23,800
Speaker 1: in them to be a coach. And I've said this

2687
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:26,000
Speaker 1: to people all the time, and I'm probably a thousand

2688
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 1: times on this show. Coaching isn't a life, isn't isn't

2689
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:32,480
Speaker 1: a career at a job. It's a lifestyle. These young

2690
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:37,240
Speaker 1: hungry coaches live that lifestyle. They're fully invested into it,

2691
02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of a different, different atmosphere

2692
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:45,160
Speaker 1: in the coaches offices and the coaches room and on

2693
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:47,880
Speaker 1: the practice fields that they haven't really had as much

2694
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, all right, we're gonna break, We're

2695
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:52,240
Speaker 1: coming back. One Bill slide from one Bhils Drive on

2696
02:09:52,320 --> 02:10:04,400
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2701
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Speaker 1: a lot going on on the show. We're all over

2702
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:19,960
Speaker 1: the place. What I'm trying to say. We had our

2703
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:22,920
Speaker 1: buddy Jack Armstrong on the show. Lewiston, resident Bills, a

2704
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:26,160
Speaker 1: season ticket member, longtime Bills fan. And oh, by the way,

2705
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:29,600
Speaker 1: he's doing the NBA broadcast the NBA Finals are his

2706
02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:33,560
Speaker 1: broadcast team up in Toronto. He's a color analyst on

2707
02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:37,240
Speaker 1: the Raptors Radio network. Jack Armstrong talked about us about

2708
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:41,160
Speaker 1: his twenty year plus career broadcasting with the Toronto Raptors.

2709
02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 1: It's my twenty first year with the Rafts, and I'm

2710
02:10:45,080 --> 02:10:49,080
Speaker 1: very fortunate I've seen it go from kind of a

2711
02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:52,520
Speaker 1: startup business. When I got to they were just kind

2712
02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:54,960
Speaker 1: of in their infancy. And the first game I have

2713
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 1: a call was Vince called his rookie game. We played

2714
02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:00,880
Speaker 1: in Boston against the Celtics. And we all twenty one

2715
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:04,720
Speaker 1: years later and you know, game three tomorrow night here

2716
02:11:04,760 --> 02:11:07,880
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area for the NBA titles. So it's

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Speaker 1: been a tremendous ride. Sure. Ask for Jackie. He's a

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Speaker 1: huge Bills fan too. He talked to us about going

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Speaker 1: to Bills games tailgating his tailgate. The Antics love to

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Speaker 1: have jack I'm strong on the show with us. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Williams joined us earlier this hour thirteen years with the

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Speaker 1: Bills on the defensive line. We asked him about a

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Speaker 1: leadership kind of the topic of our show and gave

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Speaker 1: him a couple of choices. Which player does he see

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Speaker 1: emerging as a leader on the Buffalo defense now that

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Speaker 1: Kyle has gone. Here's what he said, And I think

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Speaker 1: as far as someone emerging someone that hasn't been around,

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Speaker 1: it would definitely for me, it would be Tremaine because

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Speaker 1: of the position he placed. He's a quarterback of the

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Speaker 1: of the defense. You know, you try to watch him

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Speaker 1: grow and try to bring him along last year, you

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Speaker 1: know as the season progressed. Now he's going to continue

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Speaker 1: to get better. The game's going to slow down for him.

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Speaker 1: He's going to see more. He's going to see more

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Speaker 1: things on the field. He's to know what's happening. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to break down situations and personnels, and

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Speaker 1: it's really really going to be important for him to

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Speaker 1: take that next step, not just as a player, but

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Speaker 1: as a voice of the defense, as the quarterback of

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Speaker 1: the defense, so to speak. Let me say this about

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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams. Stephen, you, as a network broadcaster, can can

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Speaker 1: amplify this. I get it. You know, Kyle lives at

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Speaker 1: home in Louisiana, doesn't want to jump right on board

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Speaker 1: with the NFL network right now because they're out in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles and he doesn't want to be that whale

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Speaker 1: from his family. But boy, if I'm the NFL network,

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Speaker 1: I'm jumping on Kyle Williams. I think he is a

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Speaker 1: potential to be. Just to hear how coaching and coherent

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Speaker 1: and smart he is about the game. I mean, for years.

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Speaker 1: You played with guys like this for years. Bill's coaches

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Speaker 1: would say Kyle could be a great coach tomorrow, and

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Speaker 1: he could be, but he could be a great broadcaster yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That's how good he was. Yeah, Kyle, if he wished.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, here's what you know about

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Speaker 1: guys like Kyle Williams and guys like guys like Frank Wright.

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Speaker 1: The guy who I played with is now head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts. Whatever he's going to go into

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Speaker 1: he's going to be success flat because he has the

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Speaker 1: right recipe already. He works hard, he's smart and doesn't

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Speaker 1: give up, and he tries to get better, and he

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Speaker 1: self examines himself to get better. He looks for improvement,

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Speaker 1: he watches film, He does all the small things that

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Speaker 1: nobody else likes to do because it's not fun. Those

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Speaker 1: are the recipes for success, and Kyle has followed that

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Speaker 1: recipe and it led to a stellar thirteen Your career

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Speaker 1: and whatever he chooses to do next is going to

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Speaker 1: be just as successful. You can bet on it. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to Kyle for being on the show with us today. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: Field Yates from ESPN will join US. Bills receiver David

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Speaker 1: Sills as well join us tomorrow at noon. Production assistance

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Speaker 1: from George Blast, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas Honolder, Kelly Rude, JJ Turrito,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cargi's, James robled Our producer Jay Harris. Seeing tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at noon One Bill's Live on Buffalo Bill's Radio