1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Hello, my friend. Hello, Here we are once again enjoying 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: the marvelous month of May. The freshness of the season 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: is beginning to mature, and we're about to spring right 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: into summer. But we're not quite there yet. But it's 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of like it in between, a little green around 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: the edges, but hinting at what the next season will 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: grow up to be. I love this time of year. 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: How about you. 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: Seasons of the natural world and seasons of our lives 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: are ever changing, ever evolving. Some periods we enjoy more 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: than others. Some seasons bring elation, some carried deep sorrow, 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: but all are necessary as they lead to the next season. 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: My guest today, I love. Someone has written and recorded 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: an entire hour album dedicated to this very concept, this 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: very thing, this concept of seasons changing. Rita Wilson is 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: an American actress, producer, and singer songwriter. You might be 17 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: surprised to hear her acting career began with a guest 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: appearance on The Brady Bunch in a nineteen seventy two 19 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: episode where her character was running against Marcia Brady for 20 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: head cheerleader. She also appeared on Mash as well as 21 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: Three's Company and Bosom Buddies and on Frasier as Hester Crane, 22 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: the deceased mother of doctor Fraser Crane. Her film credits, 23 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: amongst other things, include The Bonfires of the Vanities, Sleepless 24 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: in Seattle, Jingle All the Way, The Story of Us, 25 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Runaway Bride, It's Complicated, and Larry Crown. She was in 26 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: the television series The Good Wife Girls, and earlier this year, 27 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: joined the cast for season two of Apple TV series 28 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: The Last Thing He Told Me, alongside Jennifer Gardner. She's 29 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: also performed on Broadway and is a powerhouse movie producer 30 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: behind the blockbuster franchises including My Big Fat Greek Wedding, Mama, Mia, Mama, Mia, 31 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Here we Go Again, and My Favorite A Man Called Auto. 32 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: Not surprisingly, in twenty nineteen, she received a star on 33 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Walk of Fame. All that and guess what acting, performing, 34 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: directing isn't even what's bringing rita to our program today? 35 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: This multi talented woman can sing? 36 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: Boy, can she sing too? 37 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: As a singer songwriter, she's released five studio albums, and 38 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: just this month her sixth, called Sound of a Woman, 39 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: boring the different phases of our lives as women, How 40 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: we get to who? We become as women, the trials, 41 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: the hopes, the relationships with ourselves and others, and more. 42 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: Described aptly as an excavation of the self, it's her 43 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: first full length effort since Now and Forever Duets in 44 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Featuring iconic artists like Jackson Brown, Vince Gill, 45 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: Smokey Robinson, and Willie Nelson. It's a powerful album full 46 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: of storytelling. Rita explains that so much of becoming ourselves 47 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: involves the lifelong work of chipping away at the non 48 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: essentials and getting closer. 49 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: To the truth of who we really are. 50 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Rita Wilson, the Singing Storyteller, will be with us today 51 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: sharing the stories behind Sound of a Woman, but I 52 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: need to share the story of today's podcast sponsor with 53 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: you first. I'm so glad to get to share all 54 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: that Mercy Ships is doing in the world world with you. 55 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: They travel to medical deserts providing free, life changing surgeries 56 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: to people in need. 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It's the office. 73 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Your office is a treehouse, So you're in a treehouse 74 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: and I'm in a barn. 75 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: How cool are our lives? 76 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: I know, it's very good. It makes it feel less officecy. 77 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: You look fabulous. 78 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. Takes a village. 79 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: I say, I'm excited about this project because I started 80 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: this journey last fall where I just got sick and 81 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: tired of being sick and tired and said I need 82 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: to feel like me again, and yes, I'm reading all 83 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: the notes on all these songs, going, yes, this is 84 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: what we need. 85 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: This is our anthem. 86 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: Oh, I love that we. 87 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: Need an anthem. We need first off, we. 88 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: Need to realize we're not alone here women in this 89 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: journey of life. 90 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: Well, you know how else I describe it. It's like 91 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: I was on the cusp of my mom's generation that 92 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: was very traditional, and my parents were immigrants, so we 93 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: had that cultural difference too, So those values were very 94 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: much ones that I was brought up with. Then it's 95 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: my generation, and then it's the generation just ahead of me, 96 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: which was all these incredible feminists and Gloria Steineman, Bella Abzac, 97 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: and they're out there using their voices and burning bras 98 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: and paving the way for women's rights and really using 99 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: sort of everything that they had broken out of from 100 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: the previous generation. So I was a little too young 101 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: to be a part of that, and very much influenced 102 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: by my mom's generation, and so I'm a late bloomer. 103 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: I think it took me a long time to really 104 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: use my voice in that way that I felt could 105 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: say something about my own experiences of being a woman. 106 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: Over the course of many different phases of my life, 107 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: because you know, we are not the same people that 108 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: we were twenty years ago, thirty years ago, five years ago, 109 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: even a year ago. So what is that like? What 110 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: are we saying? What do we want to explore? And 111 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: that's really what the foundation of the album. 112 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Was, and the fact that we have permission to explore 113 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: it because our moms didn't. 114 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: No, our moms did not have permission. It's very true. 115 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: And yet my mom was such a strong person and 116 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: she worked within the confines of her what society could 117 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: tell her that she could do. I'll never forget just 118 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: one experience, which was I was little, maybe nine ten 119 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: years old, and my mom took me to go shopping. 120 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: And my mom never raised her voice, never said anything 121 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: publicly that would look as if it was rebellious in 122 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: any way. But a guy was trying to cut her 123 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: off of a parking spot, and my mom was in 124 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: the right I was watching all of this, and she 125 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: took her parking spot, and the guy got out of 126 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: the car and started yelling at my mom in this 127 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: very disrespectful way, and my mom is just putting the 128 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: coins into the meter, and she just spoke back to 129 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: him in the most strong, clear way, and I had 130 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: never heard her defend herself in any way. I'd never 131 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: heard her talk back to anybody. And I was like, 132 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: you can do that, like, way to go. And I 133 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: remember being so proud of my mom. Wow, that was 134 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: really interesting. I had never seen a woman do that before. Wow, 135 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: that was that generation, you know. And I want to 136 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: say also, Delilah, that there are so many women, young 137 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: women that I admire, and I think, Wow, they have 138 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: had the benefits of the generations before because they use 139 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: their voices in such clear ways, and I've learned from them. 140 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, look at that girl. Go girl, I'm 141 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: going to try do that. 142 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: I learned so much from my adult daughters. I am 143 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: such a much better person today because they've been parenting. 144 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: Me exactly exactly. But look, what I think we're missing 145 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: is that multi generational community. You know. I have a 146 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: lot of younger friends because I want to hear what 147 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: they're doing, and they want to hear how did you 148 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: do it? 149 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Because you did it before it was being done. You said, 150 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't care that. You know, men usually do this, 151 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: and men usually produce this, and men usually write that. 152 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: And I'm going to do it, and you did it 153 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: with grace. 154 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. I feel like the things that 155 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: I did, I did because, for example, on Greek Wedding, 156 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 3: I really wanted to support this amazing writer need of 157 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: our dollars to make her project that she wrote. And 158 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: back then, you know, when we were making it, they said, well, 159 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: we want, you know, some names that they threw out 160 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: there to be the lead. And I said, why would 161 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: you do that? Would you tell Jerry Seinfeld he couldn't 162 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: be the lead in his movie, or Ray Romano that 163 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: he couldn't be the lead. And it was because she 164 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: wasn't a big star, but she knew the character inside 165 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: and out. So I've always felt it much easier to 166 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: support other women and to advocate for them in their 167 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: dreams and what they want to do. And so when 168 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: it came to music, there was no one out there 169 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: that I could use as an example of like, well, 170 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: this person started music in their fifties, you know. And 171 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: yet there were multiple examples of women over fifty that 172 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: were doing extraordinary things that weren't in music, but they're incredible. 173 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: I know so many women who started businesses after the 174 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 3: age of fifty. Nora Ephron, the director writer director toasted 175 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: me on my fiftieth birthday and said, I'm here to 176 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 3: tell you great things happen after the age of fifty. 177 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: I didn't direct my first movie till I was fifty, 178 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: and that really opened it up for me in the 179 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: songwriting world. And there's nobody writing about what I'm writing 180 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 3: about right now because it's very specific to having lived 181 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: a life. 182 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: Yet, you could not have written this album Sound of 183 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: a Woman, You could not have recorded these songs, You 184 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: couldn't have spoken to these truths twenty years ago, thirty 185 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: years ago, because you had to live these stories and 186 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: live these experiences. 187 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: And I love that, well, thank you. You know there. 188 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: I think there is a bit of agism in our business, 189 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: a bit yeah, okay, polite. 190 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: You walk into any boardroom of any broadcast company in 191 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: America and it's all men over fifty. 192 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: Right, right, And so here's what do we do. We 193 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 3: still keep going, we still keep pushing on. And I 194 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: was looking at female artists or writers or poets or 195 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: these women who are writing, let's say, after the age 196 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: of fifty, and you know, you painters, you can look 197 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: at their work and not know what their age is. 198 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: You just take the work for what the work is. 199 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: You're reading a poem, you're looking at a painting or 200 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: a photograph. But when it comes to our business, where 201 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: you're seen either as an actor or a performer, they 202 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: attribute an age to you that already categorizes you as 203 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: a person and not you as the artist. Like if 204 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: you didn't know who I was and I put a 205 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: new name on my album and put it out there, 206 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: somebody might look at it completely differently. So I really 207 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: hope that we can do some things here to break 208 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: that down and just take it for what it is. 209 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Creatively, when you look like you were saying, when you 210 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: look at the body of artwork though, of women, painters, dancers, performers, whatever, 211 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: there's such layers of richness as they mature, were as 212 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: they develop, as. 213 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: They grow older. Yeah, because they have all. 214 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Those life experiences that are layered into whatever their art 215 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: form is. 216 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: And we celebrate that exactly. 217 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: But give you a microphone and put you on stage 218 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: and have you sing your truth. 219 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, Well. 220 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: Here's where I'm at. I feel like it's all about 221 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: the story, and if somebody wants to hear a good story, 222 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna like this album. 223 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna love this album. 224 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: There's a song in there called Your Mother, and it 225 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: was inspired by this thought that did we really know 226 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: our mothers? And do our children really know us? 227 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: How old were you when you realized your mom was 228 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: a human, a person, an individual, not just mom. 229 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: Probably not till I had kids. Probably not I had kids. 230 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean, she first of all, she was my best friend. 231 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: So I loved her so much, and she was really 232 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: funny and really observant and opinionated and really really creative. 233 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: But you know, I think until you have your own children, 234 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: you think of your mom as just this other person 235 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: that you know is there. She raised you, she did 236 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: all that, she was your mother. But when you have 237 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: your own children, you realize all the sacrifices, all the compromises, 238 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: all the love, all of the things that they had 239 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: to do. And yet my mom had a life before 240 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: even you know, meeting my dad, and I had a 241 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: life before meeting my husband and having my own children. 242 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: And I want it at this age now, I tell 243 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: my kids everything. I just want them to know everything, 244 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: and it's like sometimes, Mom, that's TMI, and they don't, 245 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: they don't want to hear everything. But I do feel like, 246 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: it's really important. We're adults now. You know, you can 247 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: say things like you're sorry for certain things that you 248 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: did that you were just doing your best at the 249 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: time and didn't know how to do it any differently. 250 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: And you can also laugh about things that you know 251 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: they they did that you know you thought you were 252 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: going to pull your hair out. So it's really to 253 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: me about that conversation. Just start the conversation because when 254 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: your parents go those questions are going to come up 255 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: and you're not going to be able to ask them. 256 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: I can remember the minute the second it dawned on me, 257 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: and I had a son who was like seven nine 258 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: years old, it dawned on me somebody, you know, held 259 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: my feet to the fire and said, you can forgive 260 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: this other person who beat her kids, abandoned them, her 261 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: alcoholism took her down this path, and you're willing to 262 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: show her grace, but you can't show your mom the 263 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: same grace. And this woman said, she's just a woman 264 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: trying her best. 265 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Rita. 266 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I had your song back then. 267 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 268 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: I would have gone on the air that night. 269 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: And played the hell out of that because that was 270 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: life changing for me to have that epiphany that o mg, 271 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: I have been holding my mom to this standard and 272 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: I blurted out of my mouth because she's my mom. 273 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: Yes exactly, But you know what, I heard this thing 274 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: and I thought it was really helpful too. You know, 275 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: they were just doing it for the first time too. Yeah, 276 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: you know, but we expected them to know everything and 277 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 3: do everything perfectly and everything right, and you know what, 278 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: we're just human. She's just a woman. 279 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: So funniest thing you had to apologize to your adult 280 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: children for that you can talk about. Goofy is family 281 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: rule that you'll look back on now and you go, 282 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: why did I. 283 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: No double sleepovers? No double sleepovers? For example, if one 284 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: of my sons had a sleepover on a Friday night 285 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 3: and he wanted to sleep over on a Saturday night, 286 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: that would not fly because they would never sleep. They 287 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: didn't sleep, they just stayed awake, and so that meant 288 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: Sunday comes along, he's a grouch. He's a grump. He's 289 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: not going to do his homework, and it's going to 290 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: carry over into Monday morning when he has to go 291 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: to school. So I would say no to the double sleepovers. 292 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: And now I probably wouldn't care, be like fine, fine, 293 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: b ground sleepover, suffer the consequences of your Monday morning. 294 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, why do they even call them sleepovers because there 295 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: is no they. 296 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 3: Were never sleeping. They were never sleeping. 297 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: No, No, that's the time you stay up all night 298 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: eating popcorn, drinking soda prop and playing video games. 299 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: Well you know, but that like going back to this 300 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: idea of finding voice. There's a song that's out that 301 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: one of the songs that's out, Sound of a Woman 302 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: is out, and then the second single is called Michael Angelo. 303 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: The third one is Jury of One. But Michael Angelo. Well, 304 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: why did I title it that. It's because the sculptor 305 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 3: Michael Angelo had said this quote, and I had it 306 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: on my bulletin board, and someone had asked him, how 307 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: is it that you carved these gorgeous sculptures out of marble, 308 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: massive chunks of marble, And he said, I see the 309 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: angel in the marble, and I carve until I set 310 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: him free. And that, to me was a fantastic metaphor 311 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: for what it's like to be a woman, to come 312 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: into your own voice, to shed, to carve away, to 313 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: strip away all the things that are non essential, all 314 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: those identities that we've been given or we give ourselves 315 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: along the way of our lives journey to become what 316 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 3: you truly, truly are, what your essence is, so that 317 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 3: you become the angel that you knew. It's like almost 318 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: like he has a vision of what that angel is 319 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: going to look like, and he just keeps carving away. 320 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: And I think that's what we do as women. We 321 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: have this vision of the life we could have, the 322 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: person we can be, and how do we carve away 323 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: at that strip away all the things that don't work 324 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 3: until we get to being here with each other on 325 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: this podcast. 326 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: I think you have done a fabulous job. I don't 327 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: get to see you in your personal life. I get 328 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: to see you when you've got a new song out, 329 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: a new album out, a new movie. 330 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, change that we should. 331 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: But what I see as somebody who is unapologetic, but 332 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: never in your face. You're just you, your beautiful, strong, 333 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: true to yourself, true to your work, your dreams, and 334 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: you're kind of like you can either applaud me or 335 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: you can try to step in my way and I. 336 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: Will have to run you over. And I'm kind of 337 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: sorry about that, but not really. 338 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting that you say that I'm kind of 339 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: sorry about that, but not really. The third song I 340 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: mentioned is Jury of One, and it's about this feeling 341 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: that women have feeling guilty. It's like, if you're a 342 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: working person, you feel guilty that you're not with your children. 343 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: If you're with your children, you feel guilty that there 344 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: isn't some space for you to be creative. Or maybe 345 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 3: you're neglecting somebody else, maybe your family member, maybe a 346 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: mother or father, maybe your work. You know. I always 347 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: say that guilt has a twin sister, and her name 348 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: is apology, because then there's always an apology that thought 349 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: follows I'm sorry for this, I'm sorry for that, and 350 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: we're apologizing. We're conditioned to apologize for things that we 351 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: really don't need to be apologizing for. Of course, that 352 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: we always have to apologize if we're wrong, and I'm 353 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 3: a huge believer in taking accountability for those things that 354 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 3: we do that our mistakes. 355 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 2: But or on purposes. 356 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, but there's no reason to apologize. It's like 357 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: somebody bumps into you. Somebody bumped into me the other day, 358 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: like blatantly bumped into me, did not apologize, and I apologized. 359 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but they bumped into me. 360 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm apologizing that I was here when you slaught exactly. 361 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm apologizing for my existence in this spot, in this 362 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: very moment in time. And that's the sort of thing 363 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: I started thinking about, because it's always a tear, It's 364 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: always there, and I try to be more aware of that, 365 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: just to be able to be more present and more 366 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: honest in the communication. I don't have to say I'm 367 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: sorry for something that I'm not sorry about. 368 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten there yet, but maybe ellis in a 369 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: jury of one over and over and findance because I 370 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: were the same way. 371 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: I feel so guilty. 372 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: I love my in laws so much, and they're actually 373 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: my outlaws because I divorced their son almost thirty years ago. 374 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: But I love them so much and I care for them. 375 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: But I had to relocate two years ago because of 376 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: other issues, and I feel so guilty that I'm not 377 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: there on a daily or a weekly when I so 378 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: want to be right, can't meet the needs of the 379 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: five littles that I am caring for. And yeah, you 380 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And boy that mom Gil, I. 381 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: Am sure they are so incredibly grateful for when you 382 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: were there, and that doesn't go away. That does not 383 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 3: go away. They know that they know you love them. 384 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: They do yeah, and they don't pressure me, They don't 385 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: try to make me feel bad. I just like you said, 386 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: we apologize for not being able to meet all the. 387 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 3: Needs exactly exactly. But that doesn't do any good for 388 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: anybody either. 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Now, 425 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: this is just the beginning of the tour, so it's 426 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: really just a little bit of the South and the 427 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: East Coast and a little bit of the Midwest. But 428 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: I'm coming back. So all tickets can be found on 429 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 3: my website Rita Wilson dot com. Come and see us. 430 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 3: I'm really excited to perform this album. And I'm also 431 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: doing for anybody who lives in New York. I'm doing 432 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: something called the ninety second Street Why. It's a lecture series, 433 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: but I'm talking about the album with Demi Moore, my 434 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: dear friend, and singing two songs. So in case you're 435 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: in New York and you want to see that on 436 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: April twenty. 437 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: Eighth, oh hold on, hold on writing this down April 438 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: twenty eighth, Where will you be? 439 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: The ninety second Street Why, And it is a lecture 440 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: series or an interview series that Demi Moore and I 441 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 3: are doing together and she's talking to me about the 442 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: album Wonderful. These will be the first two live performances. 443 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: That will be phenomenal talk about two phenomenal, powerful, beautiful, 444 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: been through at all women. If you could bottle the 445 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: energy you guys are going to have up there. 446 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: She's an amazing woman, an incredibly inspiring, incredibly inspiring. What 447 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: she has accomplished and done in her life, the struggle 448 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 3: she's had, what she's gone through, and how she's come 449 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: out on the other side is pretty amazing. And another 450 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: incredible woman I want to talk about is Amy Wadge, 451 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: who I wrote most of the album with. We wrote 452 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: nine songs on the album together, and she's just an 453 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: incredible songwriter. And I always like to give credit where 454 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: credit is due. 455 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: Of course, and she has quite a backstory too. 456 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, amazing she wrote She's written so many hit 457 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: songs and has Grammys. But she wrote Thinking out Loud 458 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: with Ed Sheeran, which who doesn't love that song? You know? 459 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: But that's the kind of soul she has. 460 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: So people can go to your website get the tickets. 461 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: I know you're doing like a winery tour. 462 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's all city wineries. So if you like wine, 463 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: come home down. Yeah. So I'll give you some of 464 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: the cities Atlanta, Nashville, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Boston, Saint Louis, Chicago, 465 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: New York City. I might be missing something in there. 466 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: Do you have an entourage? 467 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: Do you have like your daughter or friends or somebody 468 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna just like, do this? 469 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: Are you doing the bus thing? 470 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: Are we gotta tell you? You know, it takes a village. 471 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: Right, it does. 472 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: It does. It's so in dense, but yeah, I mean 473 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 3: it's fun. And we're looking right into right now. If 474 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: it's going to be a bus or if it's going 475 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: to be playing, I'm voting for bus. I love bus 476 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: because you're all together and it's so much fun. 477 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: So that is the ultimate double up sleepover. 478 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: Oh that is totally real. Oh my god. 479 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: I can't think of anything more fun than going on 480 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: a bus tour with you. 481 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: That is so true. Oh my god. I love it 482 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 3: cozy to sleep in those bunks, you know, you have 483 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: these little curtains that close, and the rhythm. It's like 484 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: being on a train. It's really good. 485 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: Four of my girlfriends and I are taking my five 486 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: kids that i'm raising right now, along with one of 487 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: their grandkids, and we're doing a road trip this summer 488 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: to go rock hounding and climbing, taking the kids to look, 489 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, climbing caves. 490 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 3: Oh wow, how fun. 491 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: I suspect there won't be a whole lot of sleeping 492 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: going on there either, so I. 493 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: Don't think so. Actually, there will be sleeping. Driving from 494 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: one place to another. 495 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: They will be sleeping. But since we're the ones driving, Oh. 496 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: Never mind, Yeah, you'll sleeping. You will be on capping. 497 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm taking a twenty five year old motor home and 498 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: my girlfriend Katie has like a twelve year old motor home, 499 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: and then three jeeps are going to be in the caravan. 500 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: Oh, you're caravanning. That's a blast. 501 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. 502 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: I love camping. I love it, of course you do. 503 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: Your office is a treehouse exactly. Rita Wilson, thank you 504 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: for spending this time with us. Sound of a woman, 505 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: can't wait to see it, can't wait to hear it, 506 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: can't wait to experience it. Going to figure out how 507 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: to get to the wine tour, the winery all city 508 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: wine tour so we can see you and give you 509 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: a big hug. 510 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. Thank you so much for having me, 511 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: and let's find a way to get together when we're not. 512 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: Just on zoom exactly. Well, thank you again. 513 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Have a great rest of your day, and I will 514 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: see you somewhere on the dour perfect. 515 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, Delilah, Thank you so much. 516 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: All right, byebye, Hunt Bye. Sound of a Woman is 517 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: out now. It was co produced by Rita and nine 518 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: time Grammy winner Dave Cobb. Most of the project was 519 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: co written by Rita and Amy Wadge, who won a 520 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: Grammy for Ed Sheeran's eighteen times platinum. Thinking Out Loud 521 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: not simply a footnote, but as yet another sparkling faucet 522 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: to her beautiful wholeness. 523 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: Is Rita's dedication to her rich. 524 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: And loving relationships as a friend, as a daughter and 525 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: a sister, as a partner in her forty year marriage, 526 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: as a stepmother and mother, and now as a grandmother, 527 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: all of which informs her latest offering. Rita says her 528 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: hope is that this album gives people insight into all 529 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: the many phases that women experience over the course of 530 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: their lives and empowers them to look more closely at 531 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: the women setting next to them, realizing there may be 532 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: a lot more going on with her internally than what 533 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: we see outwardly. Hopefully it will start conversations that help 534 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: us come away with a deeper understanding of how valuable 535 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: this inner journey is and how it truly connects us all. 536 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: Rita will be embarking on a run of the US 537 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: live dates at various city winery locations, kicking off in 538 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta on June second. I hope you're in an area 539 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: that will allow you to attend one of her performances. 540 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: She is so talented, and she is a kindness not 541 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: to be missed. It'll be entertaining, it'll be healing, it'll 542 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: be empowering for you. Final kinds of information including music, tour, infomrchandise, 543 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: and even her artwork at Rita Wilson dot com. You 544 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: can also keep up to date with her on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, 545 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: and on YouTube. It's May, my friends. May you make 546 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: and find peace. May you make and enjoy music and art. 547 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: May you seek birds, songs and sunsets and all that 548 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: soothes your soul. 549 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: May you love someone