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<v Speaker 1>I've passed the test. I will diminish and go into

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<v Speaker 1>the West and remain. They really love to roll in

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<v Speaker 1>our on that, I really do. They put a little

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<v Speaker 1>spice on it. We are back from vacation, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had an episode all prepped to go for today,

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<v Speaker 1>um but as it turns out, we had so much

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up on since we haven't done a news

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<v Speaker 1>moment in a couple of weeks, so we decided just

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<v Speaker 1>to like talk about what's going on in pop culture

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<v Speaker 1>right now, what we've been consuming, and you'll get a proper,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a Virgin episode next week. And this

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<v Speaker 1>week we're really just gonna talk about current events because

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a Virgin the show where we give

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<v Speaker 1>literally yesterday's pop culture today's takes. I'm ros Dam and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Toronto, so catch me up, gurly, what has

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<v Speaker 1>been going on? We are back from vacation officially like

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<v Speaker 1>a Virgin, it's back to school vibes today. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>spooky season around the corner. I have a thing of

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<v Speaker 1>pumpkin spice almond milk creamer in my fridge. I absolutely do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really a pumpkin spice girly but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I love. I actually asked you to buy this

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<v Speaker 1>for me when we were starting on our road trip

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<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco is the almond crisp machiatto from Starbucks

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<v Speaker 1>that slaps well. Rose. You know it's been a lovely break.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I have taken some long, much needed time away.

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<v Speaker 1>Phoebe has taken some much needed time away. Ye, Phoebe,

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<v Speaker 1>who's apparently in a band in a band, joins to

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<v Speaker 1>me on you and I drove to San Francisco. We

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<v Speaker 1>or San Franz Squish go as you and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to butch it up to fix my car on the roadside. Okay, girls, girls,

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<v Speaker 1>days days, everyone else, let me tell you. We went

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<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco and truly, twenty minutes outside of Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>Franz car started overheating and we pulled over and literally

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I did was open TikTok and search

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<v Speaker 1>out to fix school and tank like king, not joking,

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<v Speaker 1>and it helps us, it immensely, immensely like that is

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<v Speaker 1>that is where I problem solved. That is where I

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<v Speaker 1>go for everything. We tried to fix the problem ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt very butch. I popped the hood on your

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<v Speaker 1>jeep incredible, and then we drove very quickly to an

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<v Speaker 1>auto shop about a half a block away, which I

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<v Speaker 1>want to remind you was the thing that I said

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<v Speaker 1>we should do first us. Well, yes, but I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>am am toxic and I don't like accepting help. And

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<v Speaker 1>when we did inevitably accept help from the auto shop,

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<v Speaker 1>I did ask a lot of annoying UM questions. But

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<v Speaker 1>they were really nice. They were really nice, really um.

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<v Speaker 1>But it got fixed. We got on the road, We

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<v Speaker 1>went to San Francisco, had a fun couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>had some really great food, some also really bad food.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad pizza. Oh my god, that pizza girl despicable. You

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<v Speaker 1>still need to send me a Venmo request for that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>oh do I really thank God? Because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for that. UM. I also think we could

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<v Speaker 1>dispute it because it was so bad. Let's dispute, Let's dispute. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it should be said. Yeah, we've taken a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks off. We did UM do a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bonus episode that we posted to our Finsta. You should

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<v Speaker 1>follow our fins to like, well, we we went live.

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<v Speaker 1>While we were driving UM to San Francisco, we were

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<v Speaker 1>like in the desert driving through grape fields, um and

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<v Speaker 1>went live on Instagram. It was very fun. Um. You

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<v Speaker 1>should check it out. It is, as fran said, saved

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<v Speaker 1>on our Instagram. And if you are listening to today's

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<v Speaker 1>news recording and wondering why aren't they talking about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Why aren't they talking about that? Chances are we probably

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it on our lives, So go check it

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<v Speaker 1>out there. It's like it's basically an hour long bonus

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<v Speaker 1>app Also, chances are that just a lot has happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the world over the past couple of weeks. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of things related to last week alone

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<v Speaker 1>was just insane, the amount of things that happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think there are some things that we

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<v Speaker 1>truly like don't need to comment on, like we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Don't worry, Darling, I know we are. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we are going to no, no, no, even moved.

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<v Speaker 1>Harry is already promoting a different movie at TIFF, another

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<v Speaker 1>movie in which he apparently does a really bad performance,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh My Policeman. Marie falls in the with a cop

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<v Speaker 1>or does he play a cop? He plays a cop

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe also falls maybe he falls in love with

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<v Speaker 1>a fellow cop. I don't know. Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>actually don't have opinions on the dirt don't worry darling

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<v Speaker 1>of it all. I I think that it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>delicious celebrity gossip um and mostly like gay Internet making

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<v Speaker 1>big leaps to like come to weird conclusions about a

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<v Speaker 1>movie that probably is not going to be that good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't believe we had Harry Styles spitting

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<v Speaker 1>on Chris Pine and then the queen getting sent straight

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<v Speaker 1>down in the same in the same couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>But girl, Rose not to call you in here, but

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't be like stop talking about don't worry darling,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah when like during spit Gate, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you tweeted like once every four minutes. I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aware, but what I'm saying is like, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a week since that happened, and what else is there

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<v Speaker 1>to say about it? Right? What else is there to

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<v Speaker 1>say beyond what I said exactly? We were all participating,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was most you weren't because you were like

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<v Speaker 1>in I was like in the woods, thank god, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like unplugged. I wanted to ask you, have you

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<v Speaker 1>listened to ethel Caine at all. No, okay, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>been coming up a lot on you know, on my

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<v Speaker 1>social and I t l people talking about that in concert.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very like, if I can assess correctly, like Phoebe Bridgers,

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy dacis adjacent like sad girl rock, yes, but like

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<v Speaker 1>specifically through the like through almost a like Lana del

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<v Speaker 1>Rey Americana filter, but from like a Floridian perspective, because

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<v Speaker 1>she's I think she's from Florida or like she's from

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<v Speaker 1>the South, so like obviously that hits me right in

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<v Speaker 1>the peninsula. Um. And she also like has a very

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<v Speaker 1>sky fer Era kind of sound, like literally like she

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<v Speaker 1>there are times on her album Preacher's Daughter where she

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<v Speaker 1>sounds almost exactly like sky Ferrera. Um. She's also trans,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know, love to see the dolls, the

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<v Speaker 1>dolls out here making great music. And yeah, the the

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<v Speaker 1>album is really good. It's a very um, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>very Cynthian moments, it's very rock and moments. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is really leaning hard on this like all this

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<v Speaker 1>religious imagery, this like Southern Americana imagery, but from the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of you know, a trans woman who is from

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<v Speaker 1>that place in our country, and I just really have

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<v Speaker 1>been obsessed with albums so since I started listening to

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<v Speaker 1>it like a week or two ago. And it also

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feels like she just is having a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's a fashion week hanging out with har Enough

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, like she's like one of the girls now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think in a way that I think she

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<v Speaker 1>has been building too for a while and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>reaching critical mass. Like she had a show in New

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<v Speaker 1>York recently and someone said it was like the gay

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter convention, um, which sounds about right. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should check her out. I think you would really

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<v Speaker 1>like her. Um. And then also just another music thing, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Kalila finally dropped a new song and music video this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I am so happy that I have finally

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<v Speaker 1>have a new song to add to my sex playlist.

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<v Speaker 1>She makes sex music for sure. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>really funny the way that she rolled out this new track,

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<v Speaker 1>because for a couple of days she's been posting these

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<v Speaker 1>videos of everyone's like really funny tweets and memes of

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<v Speaker 1>like where's Kalila? Like when the world needs most, she vanished. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>she like made a video with like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>like really funny Internet people in it. Um, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I like that she's in on the joke. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like did that and then dropped this truly breathtaking

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<v Speaker 1>music video and like it's it's a very slow song. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but she did assure that there are bangers coming and

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<v Speaker 1>the visuals are like insane insane, and like she looks

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<v Speaker 1>like she's in dune. And also Kalila should be in

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<v Speaker 1>Dune and should like maybe be on the soundtrack for

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<v Speaker 1>she should be on the soundtrack. She also should act

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<v Speaker 1>like she's stunning and she's so cool. She has such

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<v Speaker 1>a mystical kind of vibe that's still like sexy and contemporary. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it should be said like taking apart Um has one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best remix albums like ever created. That remix

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<v Speaker 1>album is so good if you've never checked it out. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm such a Kalayla stan and u uh something

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not really a stand up in the music world.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you listen to the new Rena Sawayama ep? I haven't,

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<v Speaker 1>actually so okay, I have to, but I love Rena

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<v Speaker 1>A huge fan of her as like an artist and

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity, huge fan of her on the community level

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<v Speaker 1>and like her perspective, rooting for her. These songs to

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<v Speaker 1>me sound very just like generic, like I can't differentiate them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't letch onto the production quality. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bummed because I love her voice and I love

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<v Speaker 1>like her ethos, but I can't really hook into what

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing. And I maybe a little bias because I

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<v Speaker 1>really hate that Chosen Family song. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>That song is an incredibly low point. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>unique to calm down levels of like anthemmy, like poorly

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<v Speaker 1>written like Ally stuff. But even though she's I know

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<v Speaker 1>she's not an Ally, I know she's queer, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's like it feels like you just google Chosen

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<v Speaker 1>Family and like that was. I don't know, I do

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<v Speaker 1>think so. I haven't listened to the full. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's an album, not an EP. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>an album, but it's any or it's at least it's

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<v Speaker 1>an EP. Now maybe it will be an album. I

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<v Speaker 1>the only song I've heard is in full is this Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>and which I like. But I think, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is very indicative of I think maybe what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, when one of these pop girlies comes

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<v Speaker 1>out and there's just so much momentum that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the time to take a break and like sit

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<v Speaker 1>and have life experiences that like lead them to write

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<v Speaker 1>good music and instead just kind of like may just

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<v Speaker 1>make music like that. They just do it and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like not kind of at the level as their previous

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<v Speaker 1>stuff was. So maybe that's what's happening, because she has

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<v Speaker 1>been going pretty NonStop since her her first album came out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love her collapse love her on the fashion level.

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<v Speaker 1>When you listen to the EP, you know, circle back

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<v Speaker 1>to me and then we can chat about it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched two things that you've already watched since we

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<v Speaker 1>last spoke, and I would love to chat briefly about them.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched I watched Prey, which I've never seen any

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<v Speaker 1>Predator movies in any other or Alien, any of the

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<v Speaker 1>Alien movies. Not that that matters, um, And you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to you really need to watch Alien, I will,

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<v Speaker 1>I will, UM, but to watch Prey for the virgins,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to watch any of the other movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and strongly recommend it as a standalone I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's already the highest rated prey movie on it not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, it's the most watched original thing Hulu has

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<v Speaker 1>ever made. WHOA, I did not know that. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>just you know. Top line action sequences, phenomenal, completely indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>lead cast and story amazing, really good violence, really scary,

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<v Speaker 1>high suspense scenes, great action, great kills, and compelling acting

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<v Speaker 1>from extremely first time actors. You know. A very simple

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<v Speaker 1>story about a girl who's like trying to prove herself

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<v Speaker 1>and then just gets put in these really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy circumstances. She also has a really hot brother. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just about talking about it. He so sexy and

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading that he was like, he it's his breakout.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I think his first role. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>working at TJ Max before he got this gig, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's so good in addition to being hot. UM and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, just for the virgins, I forgot to

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<v Speaker 1>top line the plot. If you basically the predate the

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<v Speaker 1>Predator is that what it's called predator UM is this

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<v Speaker 1>like alien alien, alien hunter being. Yeah, that has descended

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<v Speaker 1>upon Um, a commanche kind of tribe land in the

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<v Speaker 1>early seventeen hundreds, and um. Around the same time, there

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<v Speaker 1>are French fur traders that are kind of colonizing these land,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Commanche tribe is basically encountering both the fur

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<v Speaker 1>traders and the predator at the same time and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to kind of like sort through

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<v Speaker 1>protect their their tribe. And um. It's just a great,

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<v Speaker 1>great story and something that really kind of struck me. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to get all political or this isn't even political,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like good content. Is that the entire movie

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<v Speaker 1>offered Commenci subtitles and dubbing, So if you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the entire movie with a commen she dub like,

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<v Speaker 1>which can you think of any movie that has ever

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<v Speaker 1>done that like that? It was originally going to be

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<v Speaker 1>fully in Comanche with English subtitles, um, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably good for the accessibility and like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the mainstream accessibility of this film that it

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<v Speaker 1>was in English. But it's also amazing that they did

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<v Speaker 1>not sacrifice having an available with that that dub. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think all of the actors are actually I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if any of the actors are like Native

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<v Speaker 1>Comanche speakers, but like I that might have been part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason, but I just like, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as it's in the language a language that's just

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<v Speaker 1>going extinct, you know, the languages that in indigenous languages

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<v Speaker 1>that are going extinct. I was like, that's sick, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly how we should be making things that. This

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<v Speaker 1>movie is like completely not political. I must also say,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just violent, good action, like really stunning character portrayals.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just it's not like about the indigenous No Clarence,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's not, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very thing. It's a very simple story that

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<v Speaker 1>is really well made and super fun to watch. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the other thing? The other thing that was not

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<v Speaker 1>so fun to watch was the Jurassic Park movie. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I forgot that Laura Dirt was in it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why was it about bugs and corporate espionage? I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, you know, it was definitely a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent about bugs and corporate espionage. And like the villain

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<v Speaker 1>of this movie looked exactly like Tim Cook. That's so distracting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so weird and distracting, and like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like when we watched Don't Look Up,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had that kind of Jeff Bezosie and Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Muskie like CEO for yourself. I did not watch Don't

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<v Speaker 1>Look Up. Yeah, seriously, um, that movie. You know, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought had some pretty good action sequences and some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the bugs only you know, we're just gusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though the movie was about the bugs. The bugs

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<v Speaker 1>were only like in two big scenes, but there were

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<v Speaker 1>there were so little dinosaurs in it. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I found so frustrating about that movie is it

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<v Speaker 1>has this very interesting premise of dinosaurs are now living

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and it abandons it almost immediately. It's

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a like a highlight reel of news stories

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<v Speaker 1>right at the beginning of the movie, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>never deals with the implications of that. Yeah, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And also just like the Clone Girl, like there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>compelling about her. There's nothing like the fact that this

0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Clone girl has these adopted parents that aren't even that's

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Pratt and the Red Heat, and it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just completely unearned. It. There's no emotional attachment between the

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<v Speaker 1>three of them at all, and it was Honestly, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie like some of the laziest writing I'd

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<v Speaker 1>seen in a movie in a very long time. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like it was written in a weekend, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like rewritten in a weekend, which is probably more likely. Babe,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about bad writing? Oh, I'm scared.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you? What are you gonna say? I watched

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<v Speaker 1>this show so Um. Last week after we were in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, I went um to Florida to see my

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<v Speaker 1>family and UM spend a lot of time with my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and one night she was like, there's this show that

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<v Speaker 1>all my friends are talking about on Facebook that we

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<v Speaker 1>have to watch. Um, which was not a good way

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<v Speaker 1>to start a sentence for me. UM, But I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. UM. So we watched this Netflix show called

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<v Speaker 1>Partner Track. Have you heard about it? I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like incredibly basic. It's about this girl who works

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<v Speaker 1>at a law firm and she's trying to make partner.

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<v Speaker 1>She's Asian American, and she's like having a really good time,

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<v Speaker 1>a really good time. She's having a really hard time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going up against the you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>white patriarchy that very much is in power in this

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<v Speaker 1>law firm, and she of course has you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>like romantic stuff going on. It is the some of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst writing and acting I've ever seen. That being said,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and I watched five episodes at once Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were both like, this is horrible, but bea

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of into it. Yeah, so I we watched

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<v Speaker 1>more the last night I was home, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>finished it when I got back, and it was so

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<v Speaker 1>stupid and so bad, and I would watch a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>more episodes of it. Speaking of stupid and bad, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little mad at you because a week or two

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<v Speaker 1>ago I had this kind of realization when I started

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<v Speaker 1>to try to watch Making the Cut, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Project Runway spin off that time. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't watched the new season. I don't don't, don't don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I started watching it, I was like, why is the

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<v Speaker 1>music still is terrible? Um, yes, but the design, the fashion,

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the music supervisor on that show should be tried as

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<v Speaker 1>war criminal. The fashion is like slightly better this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like Making the Cut is so bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, anyways, when I was watching the show, I

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<v Speaker 1>started watching it, I was like, why am I watching this?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not enjoying it. I'm barely paying attention. I I'm

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like consuming it for the sake of consumption.

0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm going to set an intention to

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<v Speaker 1>just like watch things that I'm engaged in. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>have a really bad habit of just watching things on

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<v Speaker 1>background or watching things because I don't have anything else

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<v Speaker 1>to do and I need to just watch less trash.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you told me to watch selling doc. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not the same thing, because is incredible, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it is, It's okay, it is it's an interest because

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<v Speaker 1>it's really good, it's really quality. It's trash, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar the Grouch. It feels like it's worth watching. But

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<v Speaker 1>I am still I don't know regard it is at

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<v Speaker 1>the level of it is at the level of selling Sunset.

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<v Speaker 1>I would actually say that it's better than current seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of selling Sunset. O g selling selling Sunset. Sure they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do get Out. It's definitely better than current

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.439
<v Speaker 1>seasons of selling Sunset. And you know why, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of one of the reasons why I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is is because there's men. And I hate to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to say it, but I just think like, obvious,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously men, we gotta get more men in here. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I invading women's spaces? I invading women's I JK rolling

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<v Speaker 1>on this, Okay, she I like obviously love you know

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<v Speaker 1>shows where it's a bunch of women having interpersonal drama.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that the men on selling the

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<v Speaker 1>O c Ad an element of drama that is just

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<v Speaker 1>very different from selling Sunset, And like you have someone

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<v Speaker 1>like Geo who's such a fucking asshole, and then everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else who's like, like, all the guys are kind of gay,

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<v Speaker 1>except for the bisexual one who, as soon as he

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<v Speaker 1>talks about being bisexual, is totally written out of the show. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>completely glossed over. All the girls kind of dissociate and

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<v Speaker 1>look away because they live. The women literally talk about

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<v Speaker 1>like how hot all the guys in the office are

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<v Speaker 1>and how much they want to suck them, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>mention him once, not once they are there's nothing about

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<v Speaker 1>him that is sex because they're like, well, he sucks dick,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's disgusting. He's disgusting. Um Yeah, I I so

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<v Speaker 1>okay on your men comment, I kind of agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they're because they're so truly like they

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<v Speaker 1>have a machismo that just cuts through the bullshit with

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<v Speaker 1>assholary as opposed to win the you know, the women

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<v Speaker 1>in the cast just kind of like go around and

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<v Speaker 1>whisper to each other like over and over again. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets really repetitive. Um, so it's I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're all gay. Yeah, they're all gay, and like

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<v Speaker 1>the one who's by except for the one who's by.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love the Alexandra's. I love that they're like

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<v Speaker 1>nine characters that are named alex and then then and

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 1>I love the Alexandra's um, which is like if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't if for the virgins. They're like these kind of

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>um these like this like girl Boss partnership of real

0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:59.120
<v Speaker 1>estate agents called the Alexandras, and they're like the top

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<v Speaker 1>everyone hates who everyone hates. And also I think the

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<v Speaker 1>houses are nicer than than the l A houses, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they're better, they're better taste, they're like and the views

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<v Speaker 1>are actually nice because they're not like looking out over

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting Los Angeles. Yeah, I'm only like five or six

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<v Speaker 1>episodes in, but I have to say, only five or

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<v Speaker 1>six episodes, Oh my god, I'm only I'm only I've

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<v Speaker 1>just finished four. I think, okay, okay, So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you are where I'm at, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>have to say for the Virgins that I am unwillingly

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<v Speaker 1>team Kayla. I don't. I think Kayla is like a

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<v Speaker 1>total flop. I don't think she's good at her job. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all the other women are way worse and

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<v Speaker 1>like they are, you know, attacking her for no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean some reason, but like they're making it about

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and they have like the weirdest, most puritanical lens on,

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>like the whole like cheating thing that just like I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's stupid. Anyway, I don't know about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten there yet. Yes, you'll see, you'll see, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll report back to me. Maybe we can do a

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<v Speaker 1>little another little recap next week. I would love to.

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<v Speaker 1>I will. I will be watching more. I know we have.

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<v Speaker 1>There is something we're building to before before we go there.

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<v Speaker 1>I do just want to break in and talk about

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>some stuff I've been reading. I also recently on our

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Finsta did share my good Reads profile and I've gotten

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot of new followers, which I didn't even know

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you could follow people on good Reads. Um I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really review things, so I guess good luck to you,

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>but I guess you can at least see what I'm reading.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back on my gay historical fiction bullshit, no surprises there.

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Um I needed rippers, God pace rippers. I needed some

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>lightness because the next thing I'm reading is my therapist

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>told me I should read All About Love by Bell Hooks,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to start that later. But over the

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<v Speaker 1>past week, I've read like five books by the same

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>author who I think I've mentioned for their name is

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>kJ Charles. They write a lot of historical gay MM romance,

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<v Speaker 1>not MM and the I just read this, um this

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<v Speaker 1>trilogy called The Society of Gentlemen, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same as other things they've done, where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a group of people and it's kind of Bridgetain ask

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<v Speaker 1>whereas each book focuses on one of their different love stories,

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>but they're all part of this larger friend group and

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 1>there is a kind of larger plot that carries through

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>all of the books. But it's very interesting because it

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>does kind of deal with like the radical politics of

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen hundreds in England. And um, I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite of the three was the last one, in

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>which a lord falls in love with his valet. Um,

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it was very very sexy. What's a valet? Like? A

0:26:56.160 --> 0:27:00.400
<v Speaker 1>valot is a person who gets you dressed. Um, it's

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 1>not the guy that does the part that like parks parks.

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>They know they're like your personal like the closest person

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<v Speaker 1>to the lord who literally, like in the morning, wakes

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you up with a cup of tea, like shaves you,

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>gets you dressed. So obviously if you want to suck

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>that person, it's very sexually charged. Um. So I definitely

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>recommend those if you need like something smudgy to read.

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I literally read like that book I read in an afternoon.

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>The time has come, The time has come, The time

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 1>has come to wall reset to talk of many things

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>wrong fantasy, wrong fantasy. We have been obviously building up

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to this for a while. Um, The Lord of the Rings,

0:27:56.400 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>the Rings of Power is out, has been out, and

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>I actually people will be surprised to know I didn't

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>even watch the first three episodes until yesterday. You were

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>putting it off because you putting it off because I

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>was nervous, because I like felt like I didn't have

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the time to really fully commit to it. I'm glad

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I waited. I watched it. Today was a day where

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I like set aside to really do nothing else. And

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>first I want to hear I want to hear your thoughts,

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>because I do think, just based on our text, that

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>they're different. And for anyone who doesn't know what The

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Rings of Power is, it is Amazon's new fantasy series.

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>It's said in the same world as The Lord of

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the Rings, but it is set thousands of years before

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the Lord of the Rings and is about um the

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Second Age of Middle Earth, UM, during which the Rings

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of Power, one of which would become the One Ring

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and Lord of the Rings, were forged and not what

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this is all building towards and you can help me

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>flesh this out, but from what I understand, they're basically

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>truncating like a thousand or so years of history into

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>like a few decades. And they also very specifically do

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>not have rights to any of the Lord of the

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Rings trilogy stories. Yes, well what they do not have

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>rights to some of the Yeah? What what what is

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the t on the rights so they have? They do

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>not have the rights to anything except what is in

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the appendices of the Silmarillion. These there. Literally, there is

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a billion dollar franchise being made of the appendices of

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a fantasy novel written earlier in the last century. And

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that's just how much lower Tolkien wrote to flesh out

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>this world. So that's kind of why in the show

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>they talk around a lot of things, and it's not

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>as though it does not have a lot of exposition,

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>because and I think this might I would take a

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.719
<v Speaker 1>gander that this might be one of your complaints. And

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>why you why you might think it's a little slow

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>is that there's so much exposition, but they're still like

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>not really explaining a lot, Like you know, they don't

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>explain who more Goth is, and like they don't explain

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>what the Silmarills were because they literally don't have the

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>rights to it. They only have the rights to what's

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>in the appendices. But thankfully there's a lot in there. Yeah,

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, without getting into the nitty gritty, I think

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>my top line take is like a really emotional and

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:46.719
<v Speaker 1>esoteric one, Like I have a kind of childhood attachment

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.959
<v Speaker 1>to the Lord of the Rings movie franchise, And of

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>course they're going to be compared because they used a

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of the same team from the Lord of the

0:30:56.280 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Rings franchise. They are lifting and building on two worlds

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that Peter Jackson and that team has already created, even

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>if they can't explicitly do so, and even if they

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>also do take their own path and and invent new

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>things to um And so I kept catching myself being like, oh,

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's not like that in the trilogy, which is

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>like the wrong take and the wrong like way to

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>go about it, right, But that is my natural kind

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>of reaction is to kind of recare. The kind of

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>things that I loved about the show were the parts

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>that had a kind of contemporary emotionality, like I love.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I liked the inter I prefer the kind of interpersonal

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>drama between the characters in this franchise, which feel a

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>little more human and a little more real, versus the trilogy,

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>which is the stakes aren't quite as high. Yes, you

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>go into Lord of the Rings and the steaks are

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>almost immediately literally end of the world, end of the world.

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>And in the trilogy, even though there's a lot of

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>fun and a lot of joy, it's all like melodrama,

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>serious stoicism, looking off. Literally, it starts with glad I

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>feel it, And that is my my number one complaint

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>about Rings of Power is that our leading lady is

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>boring and sorry, does not do anything different when she

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>is not you know, fighting, swimming, climbing ice picks. I

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.239
<v Speaker 1>think her action sequences are dope. I think everything I

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>think her as kind of like a warrior is amazing.

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think that when she is acting, it is

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>a o en levels of boring and like I mean

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>this actress as well. It's like all she's doing is

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like like every any kind of like look,

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>any time you see Galadriel just like just like waiting

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>for her mine or like in conversation with someone, she's

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:05.719
<v Speaker 1>always just like looking off in the distance, like you know,

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>like she kind of breathed deep and her hair is

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>like whisping, and it's like, do you do anything else?

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Like her mouth is always turned the same way, her

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>eyes do the same thing, and it's like you can

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>do that if you're Cape Blanchet. But I feel like

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>she's doing Cape Blanchet drag and she's not pulling it

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>off because very few people can do what Cape Blanchet does,

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, I would disagree. I don't

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>think she's doing Cape Blanchet drag. I think she knows

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the part she's playing, but I actually think she is

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>doing a pretty good job at being a younger version

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of a of a character who we know so well

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and who carries so much cultural weight, and also who

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>we are used to seeing as this a very wise,

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>powerful figure who is thousands of years old, and this

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>is a much younger version of her, who has a

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of growing to do. I hope that the show

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>continues to open her up. One of my favorite moments

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in episode three is when they go riding and she

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>just like the joy on her face while she's riding

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>a horse. I thought that was like, really beautiful, and

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that speaks to what you're talking about, is

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>like the smaller moments where you get an idea of

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 1>who these characters really are. I think what is working

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>about the show, and that's why the first two episodes,

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>when there's so much exposition to get through and so

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>much setting up of who these people are where they are,

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I won't say it's boring. I didn't find it boring,

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's very dense um. But by the third episode,

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I really had to handle on who

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the characters are. I felt like the places they were

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>in were very tangible, and I started to get an

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>idea of where the stories we're building too. And I'm

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>sure there will be lots of twist and turns along

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>the way, but like I think with the reveal in

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the third episode that, um, you know, like the south

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Lands are kind of where everything is is going towards.

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I think that's they're building more door in the

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>South Belds, Like that's what what happens. And when you

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>have those moments of revelation as someone who knows about

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Lord of the Rings, I think it's really cool. Like

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the same way when they introduced a sealed door, I

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, that's a sealed door. Wh

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>who you know cuts off the ring and like that

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 1>is corrupted by it, And like those moments are so

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>cool and so exciting, and yet I I think the

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>show like sprinkles them in enough while still letting this

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>story stand on its own. Um. And it's so beautiful

0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to look at. The music is incredible. Score, The score

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>is insane. I so so good. I had seen so

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>many people saying like, watch this in the biggest screen

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 1>you can, like, so when I watched it yesterday, I

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>turn all the lights off. I like, closed the blinds

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>of my apartment, tried to make it as dark as possible,

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>turn the sound all the way up. And I'm really

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>happy I did because that made it such a better

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>viewing experience. And I was very like moved by how

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>beautiful it was. And obviously like New Zealand is beautiful,

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>there's lots of beautiful people, and You're right, a lot

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>of it is stuff we have seen before. Is like

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it's very familiar, it's speaking in the language of Lord

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.439
<v Speaker 1>of the Rings. But I also really liked how New

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Menoir is a place that feels very different from anywhere

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>we've been in Middle Earth, because the thing about Middle Earth.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I was reading a recap of the episodes and on Vulture,

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and the recap or said something like, you know, Lord

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>of the Rings takes place in this really interesting fantasy world,

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>which is like medieval England that never her progresses um.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:06.479
<v Speaker 1>And what I liked about um New Manor is that

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 1>it feels like a place where there could be like

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.720
<v Speaker 1>technological advances are like that they might have a different age,

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 1>but if you know anything about the lore of Lord

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 1>of the Rings and still Marillian, like I think spoiler alert,

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not going to be around forever. So maybe that's

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>why Middle Earth keeps having these like huge world ending

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>wars and that's why they never progress. But also probably

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>just because like it's fantasy and it is what it is.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>While we're getting into the nitty gritty here, um, I

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>love the set design in general. I love the visual

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>effects um, from you know, the seaworm to their portrayal

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>of the undying lance and the birds coming out of

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that like light Vagina in the sky. It's very cool.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But I also like the birds felt kind of sinister. Yeah,

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>they felt Yes, I love that. And I loved when

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like the light Vagina closed and it was all dark,

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>like it was so like moments like that. Vagina. It

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>is vain, it is. I think it's supposed to be

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>like a current. I think like in the in the

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>actual text, it's like a curtain of light or something

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 1>like that. But it makes sense Vagina, Yeah, it does.

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And I like the whole of you know whatever gender. Yeah.

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think that kind of the kind of esp

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the kind of distrust in every episode and the corruption

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that we're smelling and the little ways that certain characters

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>may or may not be evil or that's so that's

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>objects is all about how evil is constantly trying to

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>corrupt good, yes, and I and for me, in the

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>good and evil of it all, that's actually usually the

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>least interesting part to me of the original trilogy. Like

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Tolkien's ideas of like good and evil are

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 1>like so flat, and that that was something that Game

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>of Thrones was trying to I mean, not amend, but

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.280
<v Speaker 1>like it's something that they did different. Yes, like everyone

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>in Game of Thrones is is complicated and bad and

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 1>um makes mistakes and also does good things. And and

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that's why I wish that, you know, Tolkien had a

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 1>little more of that sensibility, which is like maybe we

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of that in in brings the

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.959
<v Speaker 1>power more and so I appreciate that. But I will

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 1>say as much as I love the visual effects and

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the kind of set and all that stuff, and like

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>just the way they build the Elvin City and New

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Menoir and all this different stuff, the hair and makeup

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>is a flop to me. I think that a lot

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of these costumes as well look very fresh off the

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Broadway clothing rack. Not all of them, but a lot

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of them. I love that they got the original costume

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>designer and the original like prop prop designers, you know,

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 1>shout out to what a shop whatever to like make

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the swords and stuff. But it just it's I think

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 1>that the costuming is actually emblematic of kind of the

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.919
<v Speaker 1>larger issue that I'm having with the show. And I'm

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 1>loving it and hating it, and the say it kind

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>of feels like and just like that. To be honest,

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.959
<v Speaker 1>like I watched and just like that, I loved every

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>second of it, but also every second of it I

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of had a little ring power. Only time will

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>tell probably Duran, right, Oh my god, the way the

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>way L Rond and Duran our ex boyfriends. They were

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking and sucking and you cannot tell me different they are.

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>They are Lego Loss and Ghimli the prequel. I L

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Rondon Duran are high key like long distance x Is

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and absolutely parked during the war and aren't talking about it.

0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:59.919
<v Speaker 1>And I bet you the wife knows and was vuying

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>for a threesome, which is why she totally wanted them

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to be a threat. That actually, like when you're talking

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>about like set in costumes, I do think the places

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that felt the realist to me and where I thought

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that stuff was done the most effectively was in UM

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>the Dwarf Kingdom. I thought that was really beautiful UM

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and the Dwarves felt their their hair and makeup and

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>prosthetics I thought were really good. And the hard Foots,

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>who are like I think ancestors of Hobbits or like

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of a different branch of Hobbits. I think their

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:38.919
<v Speaker 1>world feels very lived in and real. These this sort

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>of like nomadic tribe of you know, like little Um,

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, people scramping around and like stealing berries and stuff.

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 1>UM and I love like all the stuff sticking out

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>of their hair. And I thought the way that they

0:41:55.600 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>in the most in the last episode UM show Ode

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>instead of telling about how their society works, I thought

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>was really effectively done, like this whole idea of you know,

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>if you can't keep up with us, we leave you

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.839
<v Speaker 1>behind and like we're very sad and we'll remember you.

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>But like by UM, I thought that was like really

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>well done. And I actually find the scenes with the

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>hard Foots I think some of the most moving and

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the most emotional. I really like Nori as a character UM.

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I think obviously the stranger I think is clearly a wizard,

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 1>right I think, I mean that's the first thought. I mean,

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>he could be. I was, I was, you know, of

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>course that's actually something that I have to give it to.

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.800
<v Speaker 1>The show is like I'm now consuming like conspiracy theory

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>podcasts and like reading about reading like the l O

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>t R wikis. Meanwhile I'm watching I'm watching galadual edits

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>set to Brooklyn Baby and Buttons by the Physic Cat Dolls.

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I love. I love that we are living in a

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.800
<v Speaker 1>time where, like Lord of the Rings, that we're getting

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>new Lord of the Rings content while people are making

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>fan edits. I'm so happy. Yeah. So I the power

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to the series is that at least it's like making

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>me so interested and invested that I need to know

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and learn more about the world that it it revolves around.

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I kind of there was a conspiracy

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that it's maybe the Blue Wizard, or that it's maybe

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>radic as question Mark um again, and you know, I

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know TBD because I think the kind of man

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 1>falling from the sky comment is like completely fabricated, Like

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's from Tolkien, um, which is cool,

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I I the hard Foots are apparently not supposed

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to be in this part of the history. They inserted

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 1>them there, and the kind of hard foots hiding from

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>society is their solve for It's like, so if Harfoots

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>were hiding from society the whole time, of course they

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>weren't in the history, which I think is so smart.

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>When it's cool the way that they're ling in the gaps,

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you know they're using what they have access to. And

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>then there this world just is so rich with things

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to play with and to create exactly. And I for me,

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree that the Hartfitts maybe had some of

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the best like hair and makeup. The thing that I

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>liked from them that I wanted on everyone else was

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 1>this kind of like effortless, kind of like weather. I

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted it to look weathered, like I wanted their hair

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and stuff to look like it had been lived in.

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>And that wasn't everyone else does look a little bit

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to put together. The only time someone didn't was so

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like Galadril spends like the whole second episode in like

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>a sheet. Basically she was like she was like truly

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>pussy out on that raft in like a sheet. And

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>then by the time they got to Newman or like

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>her hair does look a little frizzy from their long

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 1>sea travels, but you know, they're they certainly are not

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.359
<v Speaker 1>as weathered as they could be. Although her um hall

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>brand is that the name of the guy that she's with, Slasher,

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember who now is a king who I

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's hot. He like he didn't look great for

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, having been on a raft, but he could

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>have looked worse. He could have looked worse. Um. Yeah,

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>but the hard Foots when they when they had their

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.280
<v Speaker 1>moment when they like kind of emerge from the ground,

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I did get really emotional. And even though they're not,

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, Hobbits, they're like one of the breeds of Hobbits.

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 1>It was the first time where I was like, where

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>in Middle Earth? This is the fantasy that I came for.

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 1>And the thing that makes Tolkien Tolkien is heroism from

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the unexpected, and how Hobbits are emblematic of the smallest

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>person can make the biggest change. And that was so beautiful. Um.

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, with the um. While we're on the hair

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and makeup of it all, we have to talk about

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the fact that l Rond has a Sally Hirshberger blowout

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>for like a lot of this movie. I mean, look,

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>he looks straight up like an inbred version of Steve

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:08.439
<v Speaker 1>from Stranger. Oh my god, so okay with Like there's

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>some scenes where like his hair is like really high,

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>like significantly higher than like other parts of the series,

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of distracting. But the parts where it's

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 1>really high, I was like, he looks like Jane von

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:23.879
<v Speaker 1>look looks very modern, and the girly who he's now

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:29.720
<v Speaker 1>working with, celebrantor the Smith also has like just looks

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like someone who was alive during nine and Weaven Like,

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no way around it. It's not it's not good.

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I I really do not like that wig. But I

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>loved back to the point that you made earlier, the

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Duran and l Round moment, because I felt like it's

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was the best example of the thing

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>that I love about Rings of Power, which is the

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you've been gone for twenty years. You missed the me

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 1>marrying my wife, you missed me having two kids, like

0:46:55.800 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>we're worrying suck my dick. But like that conversation is

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>so in the present day. It would never have happened

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>in the Lord of the Rings trilogy est and I

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>think in the present day, but through you know, fantastical circumstances,

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>because what he's saying is like, you missed all this

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 1>because you're this immortal being for whom twenty years is

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like the blink of an eye, right, And I thought

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:25.439
<v Speaker 1>that was so real, and that emotional realism is something that,

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, is missing from the trilogy. I'm not

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>one of those girlies that thinks that the Lord of

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the Rings trilogy is like perfect or whatever, like I

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>love it to death. Shut You're like, well, I love

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it to death, but like I think you know AO

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and is boring. I think a lot of plotlines are boring.

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's no emotional realism. I think the

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 1>last like thirty or forty minutes of Return of the

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>King are just like put it in the garbage, Like

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I really there are a lot of things that I

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>don't like about The Lord of the Rings, even though

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm a die hard stand um. But with Rings of Power,

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I just appreciated those moments that just feel

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:02.320
<v Speaker 1>like they're set a little bit more in the emotional

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 1>realism of two because you get to do that with

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>a TV show well, I also, I mean and not

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>even like feeling contemporary, but that just feel earned. Like

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 1>the anxiety of Norri's family realizing that they might be

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>left behind by their community like that, like that really

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>got me. Um And I loved that she, you know,

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Noori as this character who feels like she's being destined

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>to help this person, and she went to him and

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>said like, hey, I can't help you anymore. I have

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to help my family. But then she did still try

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>to do something heroic, and then I loved the way

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that this like being gets folded into her story as

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>the thing that helps save her family. By the end,

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm very interested to see where it all goes.

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I think we're going to get sexy

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Salaron pretty soon. Is that like a thing? Is that? Like?

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeson is like a character in the show. I know that,

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:06.399
<v Speaker 1>but he's purported to be sexy. He's sexy? Yeah? Well yeah,

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean Suron was always like historically in Tolkien, like

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:14.439
<v Speaker 1>was beautiful? Um so was he was? Was he as

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they say? Fine fine foot fine foot fine fine fine? Yes?

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>He was? Okay, So I have not been loving the

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff with I don't know his name That's the thing

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>about this Like everyone's names are like what are they? Um?

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:43.919
<v Speaker 1>The elf who was in the tower and is now

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>being held prisoner by the Orcs, I thought, I thought

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>his stuff was like a little boring um, Like I

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't really care about his you know, will they won't?

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>They vibe with the healer from the village, although obviously

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that kid is his son, right that was my theory.

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>And I noticed that, like his ears were always covered

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 1>by his hair, So I was like, did they fuck?

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's his son? I was maybe least engaged by

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>this plot. I was. I was as well until this

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>episode when they're not prisoners in the Orc camp and

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the action sequence that happened when they tried to escape

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 1>was so good. It was so good. I think the

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>action in general is like really stunning and well done.

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's honestly better than a lot of like

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>the acting and when they try at melodrama. I think

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>some of the shots, like in the second episode when

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Galadriel falls into the ocean and sinking and then the

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 1>guy comes down to save her, like it is beautiful

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:53.799
<v Speaker 1>and you can you can tell how much work went

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>into making this show beautiful. And I really appreciate that.

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean seven million dollars where more than more than that?

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>It is seven fifteen million dollars. I thought it was

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>over a billion. Oh really, I mean the report the

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>reports say seven. It's still the most expensive show ever made.

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's probably seven. Maybe that's the production cost,

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 1>but with marketing, it's over a billion. I think. Well, actually, regardless,

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's very cool for them to spend you know,

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred to a billion dollars on the rings. I

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's amazing that they're you know, spending that much

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 1>on the Rings of Power and then only spending you know,

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:34.919
<v Speaker 1>like four dollars on their like user interface. Like it's

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:40.320
<v Speaker 1>like really a kind of a juxtaposition. I don't quite understand, um,

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:42.759
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like although one of the things I

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>like about the interface is that every time you pause

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon Plus, the name of the character and the

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>actor pops up, and it is a nice way to

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 1>keep track of what's going on, because sometimes I get

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I start getting confused. I yeah, I mean, no other

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>service does that, which I think is kind of cool. Um.

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:03.760
<v Speaker 1>They and they do have little factoids as well, in

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in those little those like overlays um, but you know,

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's it's still is the worst streaming service

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.800
<v Speaker 1>like interet, I mean not not the worst. Sling TV

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>is the worst. Um and Roku is the worst. Is

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty bad. Some some people have gotten lost in Rocus

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>City and are never coming back. Yeah, if I can

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:30.720
<v Speaker 1>offer you know, my kind of key takeaways how I'm feeling.

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I started saying earlier that my issue with like the

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup is kind of emblematic of a larger

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 1>problem with the not problem, a larger thing in this

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:44.320
<v Speaker 1>series that I keep kind of getting bugged by, which

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>is that there is a kind of generic, if not

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:52.720
<v Speaker 1>almost soap equality to the costumes and therefore the overall

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 1>feel of Rings the power sometimes that is just not

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 1>on the same level of fantasy that of the Rings created.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And again I hate to compare them, but it's just

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 1>like I feel a lot of the time that the

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 1>things I'm seeing, from some of the swords to the

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Elvin garb to the way their wigs are done, is

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 1>just a version of what Peter Jackson would have done,

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 1>but like a little less memorable because it's been done,

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And I and I think

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that part of what I'm part of the parts that

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:29.400
<v Speaker 1>there are parts of what I'm watching where I'm like,

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is kind of something that I've

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 1>been watching before. Like I think it's really cool that like,

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, l Round went down to like Maria to

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 1>like you know, chat with a dwarf. But like when

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:44.160
<v Speaker 1>he had to like you know, speak friend to open

0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:46.839
<v Speaker 1>the gate or whatever, I was like, we've we've done this,

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you know. I think it's really but but it was

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>done in a in a different way. It was which

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I actually think is like a nice subversion of showing

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 1>us something that we are familiar with, and then they

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:04.919
<v Speaker 1>actually turned it into something funny, which I appreciated. Yeah,

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I liked the comedy. It's just that it doesn't the

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 1>line readings are not there. I don't think the melodrama

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 1>is there yet. I think that it has some great writing.

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I just like it doesn't I mean, like think about

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 1>like when like when Gibley enters more and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh mine, like there's so many Like there's a star quality.

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:29.399
<v Speaker 1>This is what it is. There is a star quality

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<v Speaker 1>in the cast of The Lord of the Rings, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those actors were it was their breakout role,

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<v Speaker 1>right of course we have, which is the same as

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>as this show. Most of the people are unknown. Well no,

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean no, because like in Lord of the Rings,

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:48.319
<v Speaker 1>we had you know, Queen Ian McKellen and King Kate Blanchet.

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Because they had those A list celebrities, and because those

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 1>were kind of the narrators and arbiters of the story,

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:58.319
<v Speaker 1>it brought a lot to the rest of their performances.

0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, like the the all the guys that play

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<v Speaker 1>the Hobbits, Um Orlando Bloom, Viggo Mortensen, Um Live Tyler

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>like they were eating these lines. And I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of the casting in this show is

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 1>giving TV like it's it's not it's the TV show.

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:22.479
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what we have. The speech TV, I think.

0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I think the visuals are giving prestige TV. I will

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:33.440
<v Speaker 1>give you. I will give you that. The writing is

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:37.879
<v Speaker 1>not quite there, especially the dialogue, Like sometimes someone will

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>say something that's clearly meant to be very like weighty,

0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like not quite giving what it's supposed

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to give. But I will I. I keep reminding myself

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:52.400
<v Speaker 1>it's we're only three episodes in. We have a whole

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:56.800
<v Speaker 1>season to watch. And hopefully more seasons after this, because

0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I do want this to continue. I will always want

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:03.839
<v Speaker 1>more Lord of the Rings content. Um, I don't know,

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Like what is the metric by which they measure success

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 1>for this show when they have spent so much money

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>on it doesn't even matter to Amazon? Like is it

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>about awards? Is it about how many people watch it?

0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Like is it about how much it's talked about? Because like,

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't really see people talking about it. People are

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:25.719
<v Speaker 1>really talking more about House of the Dragon. And it's

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 1>very interesting that these two things are airing at the

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:33.239
<v Speaker 1>same time, especially because, as we talked about before, Game

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.360
<v Speaker 1>of Thrones is literally meant to be a deconstruction and

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a subversion of fantasy like Lord of the Rings. So

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that they're airing at the same time, and

0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:49.880
<v Speaker 1>people do seem to the House of the Dragon is

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 1>much more talkable. It's much more a meimable. Um. I

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 1>just don't see people talking about it the way talking

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>about Rings of Power the same way. But after watching it,

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm hooked, and I I don't feel the same

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>way I did watching the movies, but I didn't go

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>into it expecting to, so I think I have managed

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>my expectations enough to be really pleased with how it's

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 1>going so far and excited to see where it can go.

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Because I of the episodes that have come out so far,

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the third one was my favorite, and so I feel

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that's promising because it was the episode that felt most

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:39.920
<v Speaker 1>like the story was finally moving along, like the exposition

0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>had been done, the we had all the players kind

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>of laid out, and now like we're getting going. So

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I think in the coming weeks, as it really picks

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 1>up steam, like hopefully some of these other smaller issues

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>will be less, you know, less of an issue. Yeah,

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to see what we can get from like

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Galadriel in general. Like I haven't like totally foreclosed on her.

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I want her to be a badass. I just and

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I know that she the actress Morphid. Something she was

0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>in that movie St. Maud that I never actually saw

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 1>because it was supposed to come out right when COVID

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:20.000
<v Speaker 1>happened and then it was released on streaming and I

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 1>just forgot to watch it. But I have heard really

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>great things about her. I think she's doing a good job.

0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to see more from her. Obviously, I think

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>she is really captivating, and she has really good chemistry

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:34.360
<v Speaker 1>with all of her scene partners, almost in fact where

0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, is she gonna fuck like the the

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the Pioty guy in in You do kind of think

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.280
<v Speaker 1>that about every time to characters, Yeah, I mean less

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 1>less so in Lord of the Rings because let's be real,

0:58:49.240 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the Lord of the Rings is ace, you know, yeah

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of yeah, but violence, yeah, I do. It's because

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about Game of Thrones, and I think

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:02.920
<v Speaker 1>that it is kind of It's not Game of Thrones

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and violence, but it is taking a page out of

0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Game of Thrones books with these occasional violence. Well Game

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:11.479
<v Speaker 1>of Thrones took a page out of Lord of the Rings. Well,

0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Lord of the Rings wasn't violent. They would not show

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>blood or that, but there was still it was still

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>great action and stuff like that. Yes, amazing action yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's really good action sequences, like again,

0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 1>like I think that action sequence in the Orc Pit

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:31.480
<v Speaker 1>was amazing. Yeah. I hope we get to see some

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:36.439
<v Speaker 1>more dwarves. Um, I hope somebody fucks behind. No one's

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna suck. You don't think anyone's gonna fuck. I don't

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:41.400
<v Speaker 1>think anyone is gonna fuck. I hope we get sexy

0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 1>suron very soon. UM, and I will be posting suron

0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:57.840
<v Speaker 1>war goth fan fiction on our burner. We will be

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<v Speaker 1>back next week in discussion with be Live Houston, who

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