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Speaker 1: And then you told me to watch selling doc. Okay,

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Speaker 1: a group of people and it's kind of Bridgetain ask

425
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: whereas each book focuses on one of their different love stories,

426
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: but they're all part of this larger friend group and

427
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: there is a kind of larger plot that carries through

428
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: all of the books. But it's very interesting because it

429
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: does kind of deal with like the radical politics of

430
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds in England. And um, I really enjoyed it.

431
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: My favorite of the three was the last one, in

432
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: which a lord falls in love with his valet. Um,

433
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: it was very very sexy. What's a valet? Like? A

434
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: valot is a person who gets you dressed. Um, it's

435
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: not the guy that does the part that like parks parks.

436
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: They know they're like your personal like the closest person

437
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: to the lord who literally, like in the morning, wakes

438
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: you up with a cup of tea, like shaves you,

439
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: gets you dressed. So obviously if you want to suck

440
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: that person, it's very sexually charged. Um. So I definitely

441
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: recommend those if you need like something smudgy to read.

442
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: I literally read like that book I read in an afternoon.

443
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: The time has come, The time has come, The time

444
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: has come to wall reset to talk of many things

445
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: wrong fantasy, wrong fantasy. We have been obviously building up

446
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: to this for a while. Um, The Lord of the Rings,

447
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: the Rings of Power is out, has been out, and

448
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: I actually people will be surprised to know I didn't

449
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: even watch the first three episodes until yesterday. You were

450
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: putting it off because you putting it off because I

451
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: was nervous, because I like felt like I didn't have

452
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: the time to really fully commit to it. I'm glad

453
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: I waited. I watched it. Today was a day where

454
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: I like set aside to really do nothing else. And

455
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: first I want to hear I want to hear your thoughts,

456
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: because I do think, just based on our text, that

457
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: they're different. And for anyone who doesn't know what The

458
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: Rings of Power is, it is Amazon's new fantasy series.

459
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: It's said in the same world as The Lord of

460
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: the Rings, but it is set thousands of years before

461
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings and is about um the

462
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: Second Age of Middle Earth, UM, during which the Rings

463
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: of Power, one of which would become the One Ring

464
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: and Lord of the Rings, were forged and not what

465
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: this is all building towards and you can help me

466
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: flesh this out, but from what I understand, they're basically

467
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: truncating like a thousand or so years of history into

468
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: like a few decades. And they also very specifically do

469
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: not have rights to any of the Lord of the

470
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Rings trilogy stories. Yes, well what they do not have

471
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: rights to some of the Yeah? What what what is

472
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: the t on the rights so they have? They do

473
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: not have the rights to anything except what is in

474
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: the appendices of the Silmarillion. These there. Literally, there is

475
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: a billion dollar franchise being made of the appendices of

476
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: a fantasy novel written earlier in the last century. And

477
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: that's just how much lower Tolkien wrote to flesh out

478
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: this world. So that's kind of why in the show

479
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: they talk around a lot of things, and it's not

480
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: as though it does not have a lot of exposition,

481
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: because and I think this might I would take a

482
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: gander that this might be one of your complaints. And

483
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: why you why you might think it's a little slow

484
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: is that there's so much exposition, but they're still like

485
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: not really explaining a lot, Like you know, they don't

486
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: explain who more Goth is, and like they don't explain

487
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: what the Silmarills were because they literally don't have the

488
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: rights to it. They only have the rights to what's

489
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: in the appendices. But thankfully there's a lot in there. Yeah,

490
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, without getting into the nitty gritty, I think

491
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: my top line take is like a really emotional and

492
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: esoteric one, Like I have a kind of childhood attachment

493
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: to the Lord of the Rings movie franchise, And of

494
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: course they're going to be compared because they used a

495
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: lot of the same team from the Lord of the

496
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: Rings franchise. They are lifting and building on two worlds

497
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: that Peter Jackson and that team has already created, even

498
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: if they can't explicitly do so, and even if they

499
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: also do take their own path and and invent new

500
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: things to um And so I kept catching myself being like, oh,

501
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: but it's not like that in the trilogy, which is

502
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: like the wrong take and the wrong like way to

503
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: go about it, right, But that is my natural kind

504
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: of reaction is to kind of recare. The kind of

505
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: things that I loved about the show were the parts

506
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: that had a kind of contemporary emotionality, like I love.

507
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: I liked the inter I prefer the kind of interpersonal

508
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: drama between the characters in this franchise, which feel a

509
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: little more human and a little more real, versus the trilogy,

510
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: which is the stakes aren't quite as high. Yes, you

511
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: go into Lord of the Rings and the steaks are

512
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: almost immediately literally end of the world, end of the world.

513
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: And in the trilogy, even though there's a lot of

514
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: fun and a lot of joy, it's all like melodrama,

515
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: serious stoicism, looking off. Literally, it starts with glad I

516
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: feel it, And that is my my number one complaint

517
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: about Rings of Power is that our leading lady is

518
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: boring and sorry, does not do anything different when she

519
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: is not you know, fighting, swimming, climbing ice picks. I

520
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 1: think her action sequences are dope. I think everything I

521
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: think her as kind of like a warrior is amazing.

522
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: But I think that when she is acting, it is

523
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: a o en levels of boring and like I mean

524
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: this actress as well. It's like all she's doing is

525
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: just kind of like like every any kind of like look,

526
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: any time you see Galadriel just like just like waiting

527
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: for her mine or like in conversation with someone, she's

528
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: always just like looking off in the distance, like you know,

529
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: like she kind of breathed deep and her hair is

530
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: like whisping, and it's like, do you do anything else?

531
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: Like her mouth is always turned the same way, her

532
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: eyes do the same thing, and it's like you can

533
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: do that if you're Cape Blanchet. But I feel like

534
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: she's doing Cape Blanchet drag and she's not pulling it

535
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: off because very few people can do what Cape Blanchet does,

536
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I would disagree. I don't

537
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: think she's doing Cape Blanchet drag. I think she knows

538
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: the part she's playing, but I actually think she is

539
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: doing a pretty good job at being a younger version

540
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: of a of a character who we know so well

541
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: and who carries so much cultural weight, and also who

542
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: we are used to seeing as this a very wise,

543
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: powerful figure who is thousands of years old, and this

544
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: is a much younger version of her, who has a

545
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: lot of growing to do. I hope that the show

546
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: continues to open her up. One of my favorite moments

547
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: in episode three is when they go riding and she

548
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: just like the joy on her face while she's riding

549
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: a horse. I thought that was like, really beautiful, and

550
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: I think that speaks to what you're talking about, is

551
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: like the smaller moments where you get an idea of

552
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: who these characters really are. I think what is working

553
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: about the show, and that's why the first two episodes,

554
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: when there's so much exposition to get through and so

555
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: much setting up of who these people are where they are,

556
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: I won't say it's boring. I didn't find it boring,

557
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: but it's very dense um. But by the third episode,

558
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: I felt like I really had to handle on who

559
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: the characters are. I felt like the places they were

560
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: in were very tangible, and I started to get an

561
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: idea of where the stories we're building too. And I'm

562
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: sure there will be lots of twist and turns along

563
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: the way, but like I think with the reveal in

564
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: the third episode that, um, you know, like the south

565
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: Lands are kind of where everything is is going towards.

566
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: Like I think that's they're building more door in the

567
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: South Belds, Like that's what what happens. And when you

568
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: have those moments of revelation as someone who knows about

569
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings, I think it's really cool. Like

570
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: the same way when they introduced a sealed door, I

571
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, that's a sealed door. Wh

572
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: who you know cuts off the ring and like that

573
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: is corrupted by it, And like those moments are so

574
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: cool and so exciting, and yet I I think the

575
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: show like sprinkles them in enough while still letting this

576
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: story stand on its own. Um. And it's so beautiful

577
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: to look at. The music is incredible. Score, The score

578
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: is insane. I so so good. I had seen so

579
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: many people saying like, watch this in the biggest screen

580
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: you can, like, so when I watched it yesterday, I

581
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: turn all the lights off. I like, closed the blinds

582
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: of my apartment, tried to make it as dark as possible,

583
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: turn the sound all the way up. And I'm really

584
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: happy I did because that made it such a better

585
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: viewing experience. And I was very like moved by how

586
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: beautiful it was. And obviously like New Zealand is beautiful,

587
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: there's lots of beautiful people, and You're right, a lot

588
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: of it is stuff we have seen before. Is like

589
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: it's very familiar, it's speaking in the language of Lord

590
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 1: of the Rings. But I also really liked how New

591
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: Menoir is a place that feels very different from anywhere

592
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: we've been in Middle Earth, because the thing about Middle Earth.

593
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: I was reading a recap of the episodes and on Vulture,

594
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: and the recap or said something like, you know, Lord

595
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: of the Rings takes place in this really interesting fantasy world,

596
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: which is like medieval England that never her progresses um.

597
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 1: And what I liked about um New Manor is that

598
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: it feels like a place where there could be like

599
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: technological advances are like that they might have a different age,

600
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: but if you know anything about the lore of Lord

601
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: of the Rings and still Marillian, like I think spoiler alert,

602
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: that's not going to be around forever. So maybe that's

603
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: why Middle Earth keeps having these like huge world ending

604
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: wars and that's why they never progress. But also probably

605
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: just because like it's fantasy and it is what it is.

606
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: While we're getting into the nitty gritty here, um, I

607
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: love the set design in general. I love the visual

608
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: effects um, from you know, the seaworm to their portrayal

609
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: of the undying lance and the birds coming out of

610
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: that like light Vagina in the sky. It's very cool.

611
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: But I also like the birds felt kind of sinister. Yeah,

612
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: they felt Yes, I love that. And I loved when

613
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: like the light Vagina closed and it was all dark,

614
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: like it was so like moments like that. Vagina. It

615
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: is vain, it is. I think it's supposed to be

616
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: like a current. I think like in the in the

617
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: actual text, it's like a curtain of light or something

618
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: like that. But it makes sense Vagina, Yeah, it does.

619
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: And I like the whole of you know whatever gender. Yeah.

620
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: And I think that kind of the kind of esp

621
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: the kind of distrust in every episode and the corruption

622
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: that we're smelling and the little ways that certain characters

623
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: may or may not be evil or that's so that's

624
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: objects is all about how evil is constantly trying to

625
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: corrupt good, yes, and I and for me, in the

626
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: good and evil of it all, that's actually usually the

627
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: least interesting part to me of the original trilogy. Like

628
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: I think Tolkien's ideas of like good and evil are

629
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: like so flat, and that that was something that Game

630
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: of Thrones was trying to I mean, not amend, but

631
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: like it's something that they did different. Yes, like everyone

632
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: in Game of Thrones is is complicated and bad and

633
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: um makes mistakes and also does good things. And and

634
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: that's why I wish that, you know, Tolkien had a

635
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: little more of that sensibility, which is like maybe we

636
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: have a little bit of that in in brings the

637
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 1: power more and so I appreciate that. But I will

638
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: say as much as I love the visual effects and

639
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: the kind of set and all that stuff, and like

640
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: just the way they build the Elvin City and New

641
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: Menoir and all this different stuff, the hair and makeup

642
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: is a flop to me. I think that a lot

643
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: of these costumes as well look very fresh off the

644
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Broadway clothing rack. Not all of them, but a lot

645
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: of them. I love that they got the original costume

646
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: designer and the original like prop prop designers, you know,

647
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: shout out to what a shop whatever to like make

648
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: the swords and stuff. But it just it's I think

649
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: that the costuming is actually emblematic of kind of the

650
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: larger issue that I'm having with the show. And I'm

651
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: loving it and hating it, and the say it kind

652
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: of feels like and just like that. To be honest,

653
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 1: like I watched and just like that, I loved every

654
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: second of it, but also every second of it I

655
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: kind of had a little ring power. Only time will

656
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: tell probably Duran, right, Oh my god, the way the

657
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: way L Rond and Duran our ex boyfriends. They were

658
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: fucking and sucking and you cannot tell me different they are.

659
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: They are Lego Loss and Ghimli the prequel. I L

660
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: Rondon Duran are high key like long distance x Is

661
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: and absolutely parked during the war and aren't talking about it.

662
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: And I bet you the wife knows and was vuying

663
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: for a threesome, which is why she totally wanted them

664
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: to be a threat. That actually, like when you're talking

665
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: about like set in costumes, I do think the places

666
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: that felt the realist to me and where I thought

667
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: that stuff was done the most effectively was in UM

668
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: the Dwarf Kingdom. I thought that was really beautiful UM

669
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: and the Dwarves felt their their hair and makeup and

670
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: prosthetics I thought were really good. And the hard Foots,

671
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: who are like I think ancestors of Hobbits or like

672
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: kind of a different branch of Hobbits. I think their

673
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: world feels very lived in and real. These this sort

674
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: of like nomadic tribe of you know, like little Um,

675
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, people scramping around and like stealing berries and stuff.

676
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: UM and I love like all the stuff sticking out

677
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: of their hair. And I thought the way that they

678
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: in the most in the last episode UM show Ode

679
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: instead of telling about how their society works, I thought

680
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: was really effectively done, like this whole idea of you know,

681
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: if you can't keep up with us, we leave you

682
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: behind and like we're very sad and we'll remember you.

683
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: But like by UM, I thought that was like really

684
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: well done. And I actually find the scenes with the

685
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: hard Foots I think some of the most moving and

686
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: the most emotional. I really like Nori as a character UM.

687
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: I think obviously the stranger I think is clearly a wizard,

688
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: right I think, I mean that's the first thought. I mean,

689
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: he could be. I was, I was, you know, of

690
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: course that's actually something that I have to give it to.

691
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: The show is like I'm now consuming like conspiracy theory

692
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: podcasts and like reading about reading like the l O

693
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: t R wikis. Meanwhile I'm watching I'm watching galadual edits

694
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: set to Brooklyn Baby and Buttons by the Physic Cat Dolls.

695
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: I love. I love that we are living in a

696
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: time where, like Lord of the Rings, that we're getting

697
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: new Lord of the Rings content while people are making

698
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: fan edits. I'm so happy. Yeah. So I the power

699
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: to the series is that at least it's like making

700
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: me so interested and invested that I need to know

701
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: and learn more about the world that it it revolves around.

702
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I kind of there was a conspiracy

703
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: that it's maybe the Blue Wizard, or that it's maybe

704
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: radic as question Mark um again, and you know, I

705
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: don't know TBD because I think the kind of man

706
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: falling from the sky comment is like completely fabricated, Like

707
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's from Tolkien, um, which is cool,

708
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: Like I I the hard Foots are apparently not supposed

709
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: to be in this part of the history. They inserted

710
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: them there, and the kind of hard foots hiding from

711
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: society is their solve for It's like, so if Harfoots

712
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: were hiding from society the whole time, of course they

713
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: weren't in the history, which I think is so smart.

714
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: When it's cool the way that they're ling in the gaps,

715
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: you know they're using what they have access to. And

716
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: then there this world just is so rich with things

717
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: to play with and to create exactly. And I for me,

718
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: I totally agree that the Hartfitts maybe had some of

719
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: the best like hair and makeup. The thing that I

720
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: liked from them that I wanted on everyone else was

721
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: this kind of like effortless, kind of like weather. I

722
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: wanted it to look weathered, like I wanted their hair

723
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: and stuff to look like it had been lived in.

724
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: And that wasn't everyone else does look a little bit

725
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: to put together. The only time someone didn't was so

726
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: like Galadril spends like the whole second episode in like

727
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: a sheet. Basically she was like she was like truly

728
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: pussy out on that raft in like a sheet. And

729
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: then by the time they got to Newman or like

730
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: her hair does look a little frizzy from their long

731
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: sea travels, but you know, they're they certainly are not

732
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: as weathered as they could be. Although her um hall

733
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: brand is that the name of the guy that she's with, Slasher,

734
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: I don't remember who now is a king who I

735
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: think it's hot. He like he didn't look great for

736
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, having been on a raft, but he could

737
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: have looked worse. He could have looked worse. Um. Yeah,

738
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: but the hard Foots when they when they had their

739
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: moment when they like kind of emerge from the ground,

740
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: I did get really emotional. And even though they're not,

741
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, Hobbits, they're like one of the breeds of Hobbits.

742
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: It was the first time where I was like, where

743
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: in Middle Earth? This is the fantasy that I came for.

744
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: And the thing that makes Tolkien Tolkien is heroism from

745
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: the unexpected, and how Hobbits are emblematic of the smallest

746
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: person can make the biggest change. And that was so beautiful. Um.

747
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, with the um. While we're on the hair

748
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: and makeup of it all, we have to talk about

749
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: the fact that l Rond has a Sally Hirshberger blowout

750
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: for like a lot of this movie. I mean, look,

751
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: he looks straight up like an inbred version of Steve

752
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: from Stranger. Oh my god, so okay with Like there's

753
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: some scenes where like his hair is like really high,

754
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: like significantly higher than like other parts of the series,

755
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: which is kind of distracting. But the parts where it's

756
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: really high, I was like, he looks like Jane von

757
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: look looks very modern, and the girly who he's now

758
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: working with, celebrantor the Smith also has like just looks

759
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: like someone who was alive during nine and Weaven Like,

760
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: there's no way around it. It's not it's not good.

761
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: I I really do not like that wig. But I

762
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: loved back to the point that you made earlier, the

763
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: Duran and l Round moment, because I felt like it's

764
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was the best example of the thing

765
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: that I love about Rings of Power, which is the

766
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: you've been gone for twenty years. You missed the me

767
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: marrying my wife, you missed me having two kids, like

768
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: we're worrying suck my dick. But like that conversation is

769
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: so in the present day. It would never have happened

770
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: in the Lord of the Rings trilogy est and I

771
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: think in the present day, but through you know, fantastical circumstances,

772
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: because what he's saying is like, you missed all this

773
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: because you're this immortal being for whom twenty years is

774
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: like the blink of an eye, right, And I thought

775
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: that was so real, and that emotional realism is something that,

776
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is missing from the trilogy. I'm not

777
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: one of those girlies that thinks that the Lord of

778
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: the Rings trilogy is like perfect or whatever, like I

779
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: love it to death. Shut You're like, well, I love

780
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: it to death, but like I think you know AO

781
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: and is boring. I think a lot of plotlines are boring.

782
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: I think that there's no emotional realism. I think the

783
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: last like thirty or forty minutes of Return of the

784
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: King are just like put it in the garbage, Like

785
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: I really there are a lot of things that I

786
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: don't like about The Lord of the Rings, even though

787
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm a die hard stand um. But with Rings of Power,

788
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: I think I just appreciated those moments that just feel

789
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: like they're set a little bit more in the emotional

790
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: realism of two because you get to do that with

791
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: a TV show well, I also, I mean and not

792
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: even like feeling contemporary, but that just feel earned. Like

793
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: the anxiety of Norri's family realizing that they might be

794
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: left behind by their community like that, like that really

795
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: got me. Um And I loved that she, you know,

796
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: Noori as this character who feels like she's being destined

797
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: to help this person, and she went to him and

798
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: said like, hey, I can't help you anymore. I have

799
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: to help my family. But then she did still try

800
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: to do something heroic, and then I loved the way

801
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: that this like being gets folded into her story as

802
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: the thing that helps save her family. By the end,

803
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm very interested to see where it all goes.

804
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: I you know, I think we're going to get sexy

805
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: Salaron pretty soon. Is that like a thing? Is that? Like?

806
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeson is like a character in the show. I know that,

807
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: but he's purported to be sexy. He's sexy? Yeah? Well yeah,

808
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean Suron was always like historically in Tolkien, like

809
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: was beautiful? Um so was he was? Was he as

810
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: they say? Fine fine foot fine foot fine fine fine? Yes?

811
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: He was? Okay, So I have not been loving the

812
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: stuff with I don't know his name That's the thing

813
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: about this Like everyone's names are like what are they? Um?

814
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: The elf who was in the tower and is now

815
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: being held prisoner by the Orcs, I thought, I thought

816
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: his stuff was like a little boring um, Like I

817
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: didn't really care about his you know, will they won't?

818
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: They vibe with the healer from the village, although obviously

819
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: that kid is his son, right that was my theory.

820
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: And I noticed that, like his ears were always covered

821
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: by his hair, So I was like, did they fuck?

822
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: And that's his son? I was maybe least engaged by

823
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: this plot. I was. I was as well until this

824
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: episode when they're not prisoners in the Orc camp and

825
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: the action sequence that happened when they tried to escape

826
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: was so good. It was so good. I think the

827
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: action in general is like really stunning and well done.

828
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: I think it's honestly better than a lot of like

829
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: the acting and when they try at melodrama. I think

830
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: some of the shots, like in the second episode when

831
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: Galadriel falls into the ocean and sinking and then the

832
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: guy comes down to save her, like it is beautiful

833
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: and you can you can tell how much work went

834
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: into making this show beautiful. And I really appreciate that.

835
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean seven million dollars where more than more than that?

836
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: It is seven fifteen million dollars. I thought it was

837
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: over a billion. Oh really, I mean the report the

838
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: reports say seven. It's still the most expensive show ever made.

839
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: I believe it's probably seven. Maybe that's the production cost,

840
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: but with marketing, it's over a billion. I think. Well, actually, regardless,

841
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: I think it's very cool for them to spend you know,

842
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: seven hundred to a billion dollars on the rings. I

843
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: think it's amazing that they're you know, spending that much

844
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: on the Rings of Power and then only spending you know,

845
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: like four dollars on their like user interface. Like it's

846
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: like really a kind of a juxtaposition. I don't quite understand, um,

847
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: but I feel like although one of the things I

848
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: like about the interface is that every time you pause

849
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: on Amazon Plus, the name of the character and the

850
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Speaker 1: actor pops up, and it is a nice way to

851
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Speaker 1: keep track of what's going on, because sometimes I get

852
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: I start getting confused. I yeah, I mean, no other

853
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: service does that, which I think is kind of cool. Um.

854
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: They and they do have little factoids as well, in

855
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: in those little those like overlays um, but you know,

856
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's still is the worst streaming service

857
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: like interet, I mean not not the worst. Sling TV

858
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: is the worst. Um and Roku is the worst. Is

859
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: pretty bad. Some some people have gotten lost in Rocus

860
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: City and are never coming back. Yeah, if I can

861
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: offer you know, my kind of key takeaways how I'm feeling.

862
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: I started saying earlier that my issue with like the

863
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: hair and makeup is kind of emblematic of a larger

864
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: problem with the not problem, a larger thing in this

865
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: series that I keep kind of getting bugged by, which

866
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: is that there is a kind of generic, if not

867
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 1: almost soap equality to the costumes and therefore the overall

868
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: feel of Rings the power sometimes that is just not

869
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: on the same level of fantasy that of the Rings created.

870
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: And again I hate to compare them, but it's just

871
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: like I feel a lot of the time that the

872
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: things I'm seeing, from some of the swords to the

873
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: Elvin garb to the way their wigs are done, is

874
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: just a version of what Peter Jackson would have done,

875
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: but like a little less memorable because it's been done,

876
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I and I think

877
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: that part of what I'm part of the parts that

878
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: there are parts of what I'm watching where I'm like,

879
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: I feel like this is kind of something that I've

880
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: been watching before. Like I think it's really cool that like,

881
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, l Round went down to like Maria to

882
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: like you know, chat with a dwarf. But like when

883
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: he had to like you know, speak friend to open

884
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: the gate or whatever, I was like, we've we've done this,

885
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: you know. I think it's really but but it was

886
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: done in a in a different way. It was which

887
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: I actually think is like a nice subversion of showing

888
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: us something that we are familiar with, and then they

889
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: actually turned it into something funny, which I appreciated. Yeah,

890
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: I liked the comedy. It's just that it doesn't the

891
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: line readings are not there. I don't think the melodrama

892
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: is there yet. I think that it has some great writing.

893
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: I just like it doesn't I mean, like think about

894
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: like when like when Gibley enters more and he's like,

895
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: oh mine, like there's so many Like there's a star quality.

896
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: This is what it is. There is a star quality

897
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: in the cast of The Lord of the Rings, and

898
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: a lot of those actors were it was their breakout role,

899
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: right of course we have, which is the same as

900
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: as this show. Most of the people are unknown. Well no,

901
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean no, because like in Lord of the Rings,

902
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: we had you know, Queen Ian McKellen and King Kate Blanchet.

903
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: Because they had those A list celebrities, and because those

904
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: were kind of the narrators and arbiters of the story,

905
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: it brought a lot to the rest of their performances.

906
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, like the the all the guys that play

907
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: the Hobbits, Um Orlando Bloom, Viggo Mortensen, Um Live Tyler

908
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: like they were eating these lines. And I just feel

909
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: like a lot of the casting in this show is

910
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: giving TV like it's it's not it's the TV show.

911
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 1: I think that's what we have. The speech TV, I think.

912
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: I think the visuals are giving prestige TV. I will

913
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: give you. I will give you that. The writing is

914
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: not quite there, especially the dialogue, Like sometimes someone will

915
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: say something that's clearly meant to be very like weighty,

916
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: and it's just like not quite giving what it's supposed

917
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: to give. But I will I. I keep reminding myself

918
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: it's we're only three episodes in. We have a whole

919
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: season to watch. And hopefully more seasons after this, because

920
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: I do want this to continue. I will always want

921
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: more Lord of the Rings content. Um, I don't know,

922
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: Like what is the metric by which they measure success

923
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: for this show when they have spent so much money

924
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: on it doesn't even matter to Amazon? Like is it

925
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: about awards? Is it about how many people watch it?

926
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: Like is it about how much it's talked about? Because like,

927
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't really see people talking about it. People are

928
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: really talking more about House of the Dragon. And it's

929
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: very interesting that these two things are airing at the

930
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: same time, especially because, as we talked about before, Game

931
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: of Thrones is literally meant to be a deconstruction and

932
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: a subversion of fantasy like Lord of the Rings. So

933
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: it's interesting that they're airing at the same time, and

934
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: people do seem to the House of the Dragon is

935
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: much more talkable. It's much more a meimable. Um. I

936
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: just don't see people talking about it the way talking

937
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: about Rings of Power the same way. But after watching it,

938
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hooked, and I I don't feel the same

939
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: way I did watching the movies, but I didn't go

940
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: into it expecting to, so I think I have managed

941
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: my expectations enough to be really pleased with how it's

942
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: going so far and excited to see where it can go.

943
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: Because I of the episodes that have come out so far,

944
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: the third one was my favorite, and so I feel

945
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: that's promising because it was the episode that felt most

946
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: like the story was finally moving along, like the exposition

947
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: had been done, the we had all the players kind

948
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: of laid out, and now like we're getting going. So

949
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: I think in the coming weeks, as it really picks

950
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: up steam, like hopefully some of these other smaller issues

951
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: will be less, you know, less of an issue. Yeah,

952
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what we can get from like

953
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: Galadriel in general. Like I haven't like totally foreclosed on her.

954
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: I want her to be a badass. I just and

955
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: I know that she the actress Morphid. Something she was

956
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: in that movie St. Maud that I never actually saw

957
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: because it was supposed to come out right when COVID

958
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: happened and then it was released on streaming and I

959
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: just forgot to watch it. But I have heard really

960
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: great things about her. I think she's doing a good job.

961
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: I want to see more from her. Obviously, I think

962
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: she is really captivating, and she has really good chemistry

963
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: with all of her scene partners, almost in fact where

964
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: I was like, is she gonna fuck like the the

965
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: the Pioty guy in in You do kind of think

966
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: that about every time to characters, Yeah, I mean less

967
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: less so in Lord of the Rings because let's be real,

968
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings is ace, you know, yeah

969
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, but violence, yeah, I do. It's because

970
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: you were talking about Game of Thrones, and I think

971
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: that it is kind of It's not Game of Thrones

972
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: and violence, but it is taking a page out of

973
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones books with these occasional violence. Well Game

974
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 1: of Thrones took a page out of Lord of the Rings. Well,

975
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings wasn't violent. They would not show

976
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: blood or that, but there was still it was still

977
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: great action and stuff like that. Yes, amazing action yeah, yeah, yeah,

978
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: And I think there's really good action sequences, like again,

979
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: like I think that action sequence in the Orc Pit

980
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: was amazing. Yeah. I hope we get to see some

981
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 1: more dwarves. Um, I hope somebody fucks behind. No one's

982
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: gonna suck. You don't think anyone's gonna fuck. I don't

983
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: think anyone is gonna fuck. I hope we get sexy

984
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: suron very soon. UM, and I will be posting suron

985
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: war goth fan fiction on our burner. We will be

986
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,480
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987
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,000
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988
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,400
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989
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,160
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990
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,960
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991
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