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Speaker 1: My name is Clay nukemb And. This is a production

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Speaker 1: of the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Render,

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Speaker 1: where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast. Presented by f

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Speaker 1: h F Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing

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Speaker 1: gear that's designed to be as rugged as.

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Speaker 2: The place as we explore. Welcome to the Bear Grease Render.

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Speaker 2: We've got quite quite the crew here, quite the crew.

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Speaker 2: Got Isaac Neil. It's been a while since Isaac's been here.

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Speaker 1: Feels good to see it, feels good, feels good to

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Speaker 1: be here.

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Speaker 3: Got the band back together.

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Speaker 1: The band's back together. Baron ukombe Be Noswkem Nostril Nukelem

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Speaker 1: land Bridge is here, and then most Shepherd is here.

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Speaker 4: Oh, glad to be here again. The deer hunter, it's

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 5: Time of year, like when the deer going to ret

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Speaker 5: like Moe kind of shows up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shows up the render. Yeah, yeah, you've.

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Speaker 3: Got him pattern And then all of a sudden.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, his home range gets a lot of range expands

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Speaker 6: and I show up places I've never hardy ever show up.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah that's right. Okay, so I was I've been

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Speaker 2: talking with the honest tell us. And he has told

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Speaker 2: me that I need to be talking about my book more.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, and I'm like, every time he says it,

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Speaker 2: I say, Jannis, the book doesn't even come out until

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. You know what year it does is

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. And he says, doesn't matter. He says,

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Speaker 2: talk about it every time you open your mouth between

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Speaker 2: now and then. So I'm I'm taking Janice's Joannice's advice.

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Speaker 2: Do you see all these books right here from right

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Speaker 2: there all the way to way past mo there, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: basically those that's not limited to but every single one

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Speaker 2: of those books is pretty much a reference inside of

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Speaker 2: the book that I'm writing. Incredible, wow, I mean there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of research the book currently.

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Speaker 1: So when in the literary.

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Speaker 2: World, what you do when you get a book contract

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Speaker 2: with a publishing house is that the publishing house immediately

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Speaker 2: puts out a news release that says, oh, this person

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Speaker 2: is writing a book with this title for us to

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Speaker 2: kind of like stake out your territory in case anybody

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Speaker 2: else is thinking about it. At least they'll know that

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Speaker 2: you're thinking about it too. And so like over two

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Speaker 2: years ago. This project, when it comes out in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, well have been going on, I think for

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Speaker 2: three and a half years, so behind the scenes, behind

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Speaker 2: what you see when you watch the render, when you

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Speaker 2: hear Bear Grease, always write as the words that are

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Speaker 2: coming out of my mouth just right back here. Not

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Speaker 2: so much here or here, but right in here. The

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Speaker 2: book is throbbing and has been for years. But we're actually.

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Speaker 5: There's a flow of literary, literary creativity right behind.

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Speaker 1: I hope that's what they call it.

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Speaker 4: You know what you do? You have a title for it?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, American Bear.

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Speaker 7: I feel like the longer it goes on, and especially

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Speaker 7: if you're talking about it for the next two years,

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Speaker 7: you might consider a title change to bear with Me.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's good.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 5: It feels like you've been sitting on that for a while.

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Speaker 3: It just came to me that that's actually I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Go subtitle bear with Me. It's been a while.

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Speaker 6: I believe me, Isaac. I've known him a lot longer

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Speaker 6: than you, and that's true.

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Speaker 2: Well, uh, the book is the the biography as never

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Speaker 2: before told. And I can say that with like great certainty,

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Speaker 2: like there's there's biologists that really know bears. There's anthropologists

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Speaker 2: that really know ancient peoples and hunting. There's American historians

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Speaker 2: that really know the deer skin trade, like Steve Vanella

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Speaker 2: and Randall in the books that I've been a part

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Speaker 2: of with them. Even there are modern biologists that understand

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Speaker 2: the bear human conflict that's going on in America right now.

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Speaker 2: Never before has all that been put together in just

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Speaker 2: like a truly wild story. And and and I'll be

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Speaker 1: And so just I mean, like right before we clicked

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Speaker 4: Dar three books in three months.

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Speaker 1: Well it's been a couple of years, and and we've

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Speaker 2: No, No, it actually wasn't anybody's fault that the book,

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Speaker 2: Actually today, I would be cool if they were like, hey,

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Speaker 1: You've got a whole another year. I mean, the book

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Speaker 2: I mean, these people that are writing books like really fast,

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Speaker 2: so be honest, that was for you.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed that.

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Speaker 2: And I told you, honest that, like what if I

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Speaker 2: tell everyone all that's in the.

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Speaker 1: Book, And he said, you won't just talk about it.

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Speaker 5: But uh, Joanness Petelius has never steered anyone wrong never.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he ever has, yeah at all. Yeah, So, uh,

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Speaker 2: it's it's dear week, Deer Central Week, I mean dear time,

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Speaker 2: Buck time. It's uh it's November the sixth. As we

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Speaker 2: That's why mos here and uh bear bears.

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Speaker 1: In two days, he's gonna have his annual bar Newcomb

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Speaker 4: Uh bear, beware of bear, be aware of the bear.

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Speaker 1: How many people you got coming in for this deer camp? Uh,

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Speaker 1: I've kind of lost count.

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Speaker 8: But I've got at least twenty five twenty five twenty

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Speaker 1: But you know everyone goes in.

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Speaker 5: Pairs twenty only, Oh they go in pairs.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Because yeah, I've got I've got about twenty really

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Speaker 5: That's impressive that you've got twenty good spots in one location.

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Speaker 1: some good spots.

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Speaker 2: If you see bar Newcomb's Ford Ranger pull up in

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Speaker 1: Deer season, yeah, probably every thing is in trouble. I

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Speaker 3: We're making a population level impact here.

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Speaker 1: It's basically, we have deer.

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Speaker 8: We have to be nomadic. We've had this camp for

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Speaker 2: Ever, you're like, you're like an ancient sheep grazer that

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Speaker 1: We got to make a strict.

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Speaker 4: With the bears Ford Ranger on it and a big spike.

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Speaker 6: He made me feel better while ago when he told

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Speaker 4: But we didn't kill. We didn't kill down there. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I went down camp, took took a kid hunting or

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and you put my buddy Levi on a bear and.

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Speaker 4: He killed the bear. I told him to go. Ye's correct.

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Speaker 7: Pure I feel like you better trademark that before this

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Speaker 7: episode comes out, because you got that YouTube crew the

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Speaker 7: hunting public that's his next career's pressure.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we haven't even heard the best part

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Speaker 2: This is an international deer camp incredibly Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there are.

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Speaker 1: People from from other countries here.

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Speaker 7: What are the logistics of getting somebody uh legal to hunt?

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Speaker 3: It's just not resident a resident.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, But do they have to have like the hunter

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Speaker 8: If they're gonna hunt by themselves they have to have

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Speaker 8: hunter safety. But other than that, yes, the same rules

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Speaker 8: if the hunter safety or be with reach, yeah, of

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Speaker 8: What do you call it? It's like a like it's

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Speaker 4: I forget what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a it's like where you can say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this. Didn't get a chance to yep, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Essentially you get one year.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So last year, how y'all in the whole camp we

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Speaker 4: But it was the cool I mean, it was one

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was one of the coolest experiences I've ever

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Speaker 3: Do we need to circle back to twenty good spots?

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Speaker 4: Well, okay that the.

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Speaker 2: Year before maybe you didn't have any good spots at all.

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Speaker 8: The year before we went to we went to my

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Speaker 4: And so one.

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Speaker 2: Day there'll be a genetic study of the white tailed

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Speaker 2: we're not sure what happened, but there was a population

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Speaker 6: You know why y'all saw one deer last year? Was

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Speaker 6: that by what you just said. You said you decided

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Speaker 4: There where you were.

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Speaker 6: At any time you brag about what you're doing or

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Speaker 1: So you think that he got a little overcomer.

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Speaker 4: Confident and so it showed up.

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Speaker 8: Oh, it definitely did because we were like, surely there's

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Speaker 1: Ten or ten.

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Speaker 6: All were at though, yeah, buck button, bucks, bikes and

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Speaker 6: we saw it didn't matter.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 8: I think Seymour saw like the flash of one deer

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Speaker 8: and LEVI killed a bear.

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Speaker 1: So what are the all the names of some of

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Speaker 1: your members?

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Speaker 8: Seymore, Yeah, Seymour, Schucks, I can't think of any off

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Speaker 8: the bat, the Eagle, the uh less than the eagle,

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Speaker 8: mm hmm. That's all I can think of. It going

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Speaker 8: to be there, won't this year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Sea Bass has been at the camp before.

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Speaker 6: What was a young man's name that I took? He's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and it was a kind of a weird name.

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Speaker 8: He killed a buck last week, a little buck over

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Up a buck So don't I see I'm loaning my

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Speaker 1: But that's that's that's pretty man.

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Speaker 2: You know what I I I commend you bear. That's

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Speaker 2: uh that's pretty cool that you're you're taking guys out

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Speaker 1: Perfect day at Big Front.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my good buddy Brian Beauley came and he came out.

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Speaker 4: And I just just like, I'm going to.

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Speaker 5: Can hear of the problem was is that it was sprinkling.

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Speaker 5: It was right, it was raining, for it was.

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Speaker 1: And I tell you, I have found a lot.

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Speaker 2: Bitty speck of blood on a deer trail. That was

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Speaker 2: kind of a little different direction we thought. Anyway, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's usually going to want to get back to where

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I just I did not want to

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Speaker 4: Really glad I got.

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Speaker 1: Them now, Mo, you hadn't got one yet.

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Speaker 4: Hundred a few times.

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Speaker 6: I bear hunted a couple of days, uh during that,

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Speaker 4: But seen a few dos.

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Speaker 6: Seen a couple of small, small bucks, but no nothing

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Speaker 6: as much size to anything. I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: So mm hmm, Bear, you had to call MO the

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Speaker 1: other day get some intel. Yeah, yeah, Well I was

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Speaker 8: Found a big rub line and there were fifteen scrapes

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Speaker 8: you would think a big buck would be. That's why

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Speaker 8: I was like the out, yeah, And I went in

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Speaker 8: The dough runs out like twenty yards from me. I

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Speaker 1: That any signing there?

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Speaker 4: I haven't yet.

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Speaker 6: He hadn't been it yet, but I told him, I said,

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Speaker 4: So it kill several bucks out of way.

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Speaker 6: That's find most are signed down low, but kill them

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Speaker 9: Tip tips and tactics OAAC what have you been doing.

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Speaker 3: Working a lot?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What do you do for work?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I've been making videos and taking pictures.

447
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: You were hunting with a first light guy.

448
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 3: Yep up in Ohio.

449
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: What's his name, Kyle Forber.

450
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 7: He's the new Yep yep heck of a baseball player,

451
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Speaker 7: I'm told.

452
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've watched him play ball.

453
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got a great property up there.

454
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: And we did not do any good. Their rutt hadn't really.

455
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Speaker 1: You were just hunting for like one day though.

456
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 4: Two days.

457
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was pretty tight. Yeah, did have a fun experience.

458
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Speaker 7: Happened a new experience. We were hunting this big timber

459
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Speaker 7: right off a food plot maybe two hundred yards, not

460
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Speaker 7: seeing anything, and this little button buck bolts straight into

461
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Speaker 7: the woods from the food plot at us, gets to

462
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Speaker 7: within twenty yards, hangs up, then comes right up, starts

463
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 7: licking the ladder stand to the semmer on, makes two

464
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 7: full circles, comes back, licks the ladder stand again, and

465
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Speaker 7: then goes back to.

466
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Speaker 4: The food plot.

467
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Speaker 1: Hmm, Wow, what do you make of it?

468
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 4: Witchcraft?

469
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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, there was no reason for him to come

470
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 7: in there. I didn't see anything in the food plot

471
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 7: that chased him in there or anything. He just came

472
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Speaker 7: straight to us on a bee line.

473
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Speaker 2: He must have smelled you liked it. Yeah, any uh,

474
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Speaker 2: it's been a while since we've talked a lot.

475
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Speaker 4: Any new tattoos, No new tattoos.

476
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Speaker 7: Oh, just all the same old standards. Yeah, I don't

477
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 7: I don't think there's much news fit to report. I've

478
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Speaker 7: been hunting a little, did it. Did a little guiding

479
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Speaker 7: up in Wyoming for mule deer and antelope. Quite a

480
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Speaker 7: bit of fun.

481
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Speaker 1: Yep, nice, that's cool.

482
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Speaker 7: Yeah, successful hunt. Yeah, tagged out all my hunters so

483
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Speaker 7: easier than others. It is remarkable. I think it's sku

484
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Speaker 7: and I think we're in a weird world. I think

485
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 7: there are a lot of people who like to hunt

486
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Speaker 7: that don't hunt or have as much experience hunting as us.

487
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Speaker 7: But just some remarkable people, all of them great and friendly.

488
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Speaker 7: And I really enjoyed it.

489
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Speaker 4: The clients. Yeah.

490
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Speaker 7: But I had a guy show up and say, I

491
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Speaker 7: got a new barrel put on my gun.

492
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Speaker 4: I haven't shot it yet.

493
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Speaker 1: What. Okay, we're going and we're going hunting this afternoon.

494
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Speaker 7: Yeah, do you have something I can shoot at on

495
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Speaker 7: the property? And I was like, tell you what I'll

496
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Speaker 7: bring my gun and we'll start off with that. I

497
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 7: know it's on it's on out to four hundred yards,

498
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Speaker 7: so and maybe if it gets slow midday, we can

499
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Speaker 7: shoot at something.

500
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Speaker 3: But I don't. We're shooting my gun. We're not shooting

501
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 3: your gun, like okay with that. Yeah, yeah, And he

502
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: shot a deer.

503
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Speaker 4: He shot a good.

504
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Speaker 1: Deer with your with your gun. Uh huh okay uh.

505
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Speaker 7: And it ended up being a layup shot at like

506
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Speaker 7: one hundred and forty yards. This, you know, one hundred

507
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Speaker 7: and sixty in four by four was vetted one hundred

508
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 7: and forty yards from the road and just looking out.

509
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 4: And yeah, I have two fans I work with that

510
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 4: had went.

511
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Speaker 6: They didn't go together, they went separate, but they went

512
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Speaker 6: to Wyoming meal deer hunting a couple of weeks ago

513
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 6: and they both tagged a meal deer one of them,

514
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 6: really nice of them, was just a smaller meal deer.

515
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 6: But they were both had good hunts. They saw several

516
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Speaker 6: several meal deer and said they had really a good time.

517
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's incredible up there.

518
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: It's funny hunting.

519
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 7: I've only ever hunted public land up there, and it

520
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 7: can be a little hard. A lot of it's land locked,

521
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 7: and what's not is pretty overrun, right. Uh, and so

522
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 7: I'm taking these guys hunting and putting them on deer

523
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 7: that are much bigger than I've ever shot. I have

524
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 7: never shot some yeah, yeah, yeah. So the way it

525
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 7: works in Wyoming is you have to be a licensed

526
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 7: guide working under a licensed and insured outfitter. And uh,

527
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 7: he had a couple of leases and stuff.

528
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I entered. That's cool. That's cool. Well, dear Stories.

529
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Speaker 1: So my favorite episodes of the year are the bear

530
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: Grease dear stories. I've been trying to figure out. We've

531
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Speaker 1: done this five years now, and every year we've had

532
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: I think at least two Deer Stories episodes.

533
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: Usually there's between five and seven stories on each episode.

534
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 2: I would like to I wish somebody, not me or

535
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: not like a part of our group, could analyze these

536
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: stories to help me understand what kind of stories that

537
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 2: we like to tell, because stay with me, there's a

538
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: million deer stories.

539
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean, please bear with me, Dear with me, dear

540
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: with me.

541
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Speaker 2: This little idea may come to fruition in twenty twenty seven,

542
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: after the book after, you know, because when I I

543
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: find when I sit down with people, and Josh has

544
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: been helping me gather stories. I look at someone that

545
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: I've come to them and maybe they don't know a thing.

546
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: Many of the people that have been on some of

547
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: these episodes had never even heard of bear Grease or

548
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: podcasts at all. And so I'm like and they and

549
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: they go, well, I mean, I've been like deer hunting

550
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: my whole life, Like what kind of story do you want?

551
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: And like what would I say to them? Because I'm

552
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: not necessarily looking for a big buck story, but I

553
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: might be.

554
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: I mean, one of the.

555
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Speaker 2: Best stories that that I personally have is the story

556
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: of my saga with moofs and and really it's a

557
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: it's a story of the patterns of a really big buck.

558
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: There's a buck that my neighbor ended up killing, you know, yep.

559
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: And so like, I'm very interested in, like a great

560
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: deer story that has some great deer behavior, something unique,

561
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: something that deer did that you you never would have

562
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: predicted that he would do.

563
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's cool.

564
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: But then also the story of Gary Farmer on this episode,

565
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 1: who the story wasn't even about deer hunting, it was

566
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: he was taken. They've done a deer drive. It was

567
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: taking a nap.

568
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: His buddy pulls up on a mule and you know, says, hey,

569
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Speaker 2: hop on, let's see if she'll ride double.

570
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 4: I mean, the.

571
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: Story wasn't even about deer hunting. And when he told

572
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Speaker 2: me that, I was like, that's a great story.

573
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: Yep.

574
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: And I I anyway, any any thoughts on how you

575
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: would describe to someone, Like if you brought your best

576
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: friend that didn't know any of this and you said

577
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: you got to tell Clay a story, what would you

578
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: say to him?

579
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Speaker 7: I think there's two types of stories that really do

580
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 7: it for me, and it's things that are humorous, not

581
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 7: necessarily side splitting, but like where you screw something up

582
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 7: or something goes awry or whatever, like that mule story.

583
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 7: Or I think this oftentimes comes up more in the

584
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 7: turkey hunting stories, but still in deer stories that things

585
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 7: that are sentimental or things that carry weight for something

586
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 7: beyond just the hunt. And like I was just before

587
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 7: we started here, I was saying, like some of my

588
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 7: best deer and certainly my favorite stories happened like that.

589
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: Like my favorite deer I ever shot.

590
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 7: It was one hundred and forty inch main frame eight

591
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 7: that had broken off both its g ones just rubbed

592
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 7: them slick, so it's really a six point technically, it

593
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 7: was illegal when I shot it because I was in

594
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Speaker 7: a county that had a four point on one side restriction.

595
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 7: And I remember like walking up to it all statue. Yeah,

596
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 7: I remember walking up to it and being like, well,

597
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 7: I was with my dad, I'll tell you that. But

598
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 7: I was like, Dad, this isn't legal, and he's like,

599
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 7: that's not what that rules about. This guy is clearly a.

600
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Speaker 4: Very mature to say.

601
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, but we were walking in We're walking this road

602
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 7: in right, and there's this bedding area right up next

603
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 7: to it, and you can't get through it without blowing

604
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 7: out these dear if you're walking in the middle of

605
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 7: the day, it's like they're bedded ten yards from this

606
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 7: little path through here.

607
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: And so we're walking up to it and fully expect

608
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: to blow out some deer.

609
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 7: Three or four dos come through, and there's this little

610
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 7: spike standing in the middle of the road, and I

611
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 7: have my camera on me walking with Dad, and I've

612
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 7: bend down on my knees and I'm getting a picture

613
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 7: because he's just standing there all pretty in the middle

614
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 7: of the road and I'm about to snap the picture

615
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 7: and Dad's like.

616
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: Are you gonna shoot the deer?

617
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 7: I'm thinking no, I'm not gonna shoot that deer. I

618
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 7: would never shoot that deer. And I'm like, no, what

619
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 7: are you talking about? And he just reaches down and

620
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 7: grabs my head and turns it. And this guy is

621
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 7: just standing there like the king of the forest, right

622
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 7: next to the road, still in the bedding area.

623
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Speaker 4: He hasn't bowled out there yet, but he's.

624
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 7: Standing there like, uh, I've never encountered something I can't handle,

625
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 7: and you guys are no different. He's just proud and

626
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 7: this is my spot, right And he just stood there

627
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 7: and I pulled up my gun and I shot him,

628
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 7: and that it had nothing to do with skill.

629
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: I did everything wrong.

630
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 7: But that's the type of story that I'm like, that's

631
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 7: really special to me and I will always remember it.

632
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 7: Cool that it was a good deer, but just being

633
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 7: there with my dad and screwing things up and it

634
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 7: still worked out.

635
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

636
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: I'm asking you that are you going to shoot that deer?

637
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: A ten inch spike?

638
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: You know, like, okay, bear, what would you describe?

639
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: What kind of deer stories are we looking for because

640
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: I actually gotta I actually gotta now do a little

641
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: cleanup work with thought. Isaac said, when I sit with somebody,

642
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: I tell him I don't want it because your story

643
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: is not necessarily sentimental. I wouldn't call that sentimental. No,

644
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing that. Yes, that's a great story to

645
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: find sentimental.

646
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: Well, okay, yeah, here's the other.

647
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: Thing that happens when you sit down with people, I say,

648
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: tell me your best, dear story and they go, oh

649
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: my gosh, you are not going to believe this story, Clay,

650
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: are we recording? And they go, man, my six year

651
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: old son it was his first time one hundred deer

652
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 2: And they tell me about their six year old son

653
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: killing the.

654
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: Deer, which, dude, I have four kids. I've spent I've

655
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: dedicated a lot of my life to getting them into

656
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: the outdoors and it's incredibly gratifying. It doesn't make for

657
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: that compelling of a story.

658
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 5: You're usually sentimental story where the sentimentality really only person.

659
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: And not taking anything away from a kid or any

660
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: of those stories. There's a place for that story, and

661
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: that's part of my point on what kind of stories

662
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: are we telling? On the Bear grease deer stories because

663
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: they're they're they They got to have a hook, they

664
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: got to be exciting, they got to have a punchline.

665
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: I think part of it too, I'm answered my own question. Okay,

666
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: I think part of it too. I told Josh the

667
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: other day I would almost rather pick the person I

668
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: want to tell me a story.

669
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 5: I literally told somebody the other day I said, these

670
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 5: dear stories are thirty percent story and seventy percent storyteller.

671
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.

672
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: And it's not even like bells and whistles of storytelling.

673
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: It's not It's not like everybody has to be like

674
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: an Andy Brown that gives the sound. But it's the

675
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: character of the person, like like, well, it's the way

676
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: they sound, it's the it's the it's the authenticity in

677
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: their voice.

678
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 7: It's the Anyway, when I say sentimental, I'm thinking, well,

679
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 7: the initially I went to that Turkey story of the

680
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 7: guy in Tennessee where he took a no, took the

681
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 7: strap off.

682
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: His gun and.

683
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 7: Story that's it's not like Sacharine sentimental. It's not like

684
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 7: super it's like, uh, the relationship or in this your

685
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 7: story one.

686
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: The uncle Ira, what did you call him?

687
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 9: Ari?

688
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 7: Alright, all right, the the like the story of him,

689
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 7: just that whole like that connection to someone else, that

690
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 7: thing that transcends this. Yeah, I think that's what I

691
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 7: mean by sentimental.

692
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, you're right of.

693
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 7: The storyteller talking about dipping and he used the word wretched.

694
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 4: Yea wretched in there.

695
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, we need to do a deer story, like an

696
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 5: All Star Deer Stories.

697
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time probably.

698
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean because I mean, over the past five

699
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 5: years there's been.

700
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: On different ones.

701
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: Because I'm always surprised when I to me, there's always

702
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: one story in the episode that's like the best, like like,

703
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: if you had any other thought, I would think you

704
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: didn't understand deer honey. And but clearly that's like myopic

705
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: view of like your perception of how you evaluate life.

706
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: Which I'm joking when I say that, but like there's

707
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: always one that's just like really clear, and then I'll

708
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: talk to somebody and they'll be like, oh I like

709
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: that one, and they're all good, or they wouldn't be

710
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: on there.

711
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I mean?

712
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 5: I would say overall, Deer Stories and Turkey Stories are

713
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 5: the podcasts that I get the most feedback on positive negative. Yeah,

714
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: like people love love dear stories and turkey stories.

715
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 7: Okay, let me pass something by you on picking the storyteller.

716
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 7: I feel like there are people who are exceptionally gifted

717
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 7: with storytelling, and oftentimes the craziest things happened to those people.

718
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: They have a propensity some people.

719
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, my uncle Scott is that way. Incredible storyteller. He's

720
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 7: a big old guy, always wears overalls and the just

721
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 7: stuff happens, I'd call him snake bit right. He just

722
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 7: you know, he was building his house and nailed his

723
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 7: hand to his roof and hearing him tell that story

724
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 7: is incredible. But just him fiddling with a climber and

725
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 7: getting his knee he's hyper extended because he slipped out.

726
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: He's got some coordination issues.

727
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 7: Oh definitely for sure, going to the bathroom and feeling

728
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 7: good about it while hunting and then putting his coveralls

729
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 7: back on and realizing that he had used the sleeve

730
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 7: just just and constantly, it's always happening to He's an

731
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 7: incredible storyteller. But I'm like, I could count up on

732
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 7: one hand maybe this quality of experiences in this realm

733
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 7: that I have had, and you seem to have this

734
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 7: every week.

735
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 6: Kind of like the guy and the story one of

736
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 6: the stories of this second episode where where the the

737
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 6: guy's dad love to hunt and loves to do all

738
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 6: that bho his son says he can't hit the broadside

739
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 6: of a bar there.

740
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jordan Bear, what.

741
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: Was your favorite story?

742
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: And I kind of want to open it back up

743
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: because we didn't have a render about episode one, which

744
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: had some incredible stuff. It had it had uh Andy Brown,

745
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: uh about Uncle Ari, but mainly it had Johnny Johnson

746
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: and story about giving away deer.

747
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: And had the stories about the deer camps too.

748
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: Well, so that was on the second one you're talking

749
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: about the first, Well, I'm just saying I'm opening it

750
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: up to all that.

751
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 8: The deer camp stories. Matt Taylor had to be my

752
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 8: favorite because the deer camp well yeah, and I've gone

753
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 8: I can go to their deer camp a lot, and

754
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 8: those stories. So Matt Taylor's son, Weston is one of

755
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 8: my good hunting buddies.

756
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: It happens to be.

757
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: He's the eagle. Yeah.

758
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: If you see the eagle pull up, you're hunting area.

759
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 4: If you see that.

760
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 5: With the bald eagle and the.

761
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: That says, I am the pressure. Yeah he is. He's

762
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: almost tagged out already head on. He lets no mercy.

763
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 8: He he does have a the longest running he has

764
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 8: a wild hunting statistic.

765
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 4: He has never passed.

766
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: He's once and he shot.

767
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 8: He's on public whole life and Bat Taylor, I'm serious,

768
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 8: like he's every deer he's ever seen in the woods.

769
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 1: While I had a guy, he killed it. He's killed

770
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: like twenty one deers.

771
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: He does not know what a deer walking away looks like,

772
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: what's that?

773
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: He's a flag? I saw some weird the woodstas a

774
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: white flat right what it was?

775
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 8: But anyway, so I've gone to that deer camp maybe

776
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 8: since I was I think I was fourteen the first

777
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 8: time I went there.

778
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 3: But they those three stories.

779
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 8: Whenever I heard the first one about the antler getting shot,

780
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 8: I was like, they he better tell the Tanneride story.

781
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 8: He better tell the deer jumping out of the truck story,

782
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 8: because it's just like those stories, Like they say the

783
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 8: greatest hips and they kill like very consistently giant public

784
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 8: land bucks. I mean almost every year they've got a

785
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 8: they've got a wall where the you know, like.

786
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: Whoever kills the biggest buck?

787
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 8: Every year gets a hat and they've got a wall

788
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 8: for like thirty years worth of bucks, and you go

789
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 8: look at all the pictures and they've got some giant

790
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 8: bucks that they kill on public land, and like, I

791
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 8: mean they tell those stories here and there, but like

792
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 8: the these stories are are you know, like the deer

793
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 8: jumping out of the back of the side by side

794
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 8: and they get back and he's not there. You know.

795
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 8: So those had to be my favorite, just because it's

796
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 8: like the way they hunt is a very tough way

797
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 8: to hunt, but they've What I like about it is

798
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 8: they've done it for so long. They've got they've got

799
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 8: a lot of tradition in their camp and it's like

800
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 8: a they just have a really neat camp and I

801
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 8: feel like it's kind of portrayed well through those stories

802
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 8: of like what what's really like what the camp is

803
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 8: really about there?

804
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I thought Matt. Matt's stories were great.

805
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 3: Was the tanneright, the same guy that got.

806
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: Kicked in the face? Yeah, same guy, the same guy that.

807
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: Those were the two stories about this this cody you know, yeah,

808
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: Matt's story, that story could have had a way different outcome.

809
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if when you're listening from a production standpoint,

810
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: like when Matt starts telling the story of him smoking

811
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: like marb on Home Alone.

812
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: There's like this real lighthearted like music, and the story

813
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: could have been and the guy was blind and lost.

814
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 7: You know, supposing of explosives in a fire is a

815
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 7: crazy move.

816
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: It just it just was one of those no brainer moves.

817
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: But Josh, what was your favorite story of all of them?

818
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: You know, I really like Johnny Johnson's story because I

819
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 5: think a lot of that that respect for older people

820
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: is starting to slip a little bit, and I think

821
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 5: that that one was a little sentimental to me.

822
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I.

823
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 5: Had great appreciation because there was no like, it was

824
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 5: no question, oh he shot the deer, you know what

825
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: I mean? Yeah, And I appreciate that about it because

826
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 5: and and that would have been a time that Johnny

827
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily the greatest guy in the world, but they

828
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 5: still had respect for this old man.

829
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: And I think that means something to me.

830
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: Man, if you hadn't listened to that episode, uh, look

831
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: up what episode number that is, Josh, if you can,

832
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: but that that story is one of the most unique.

833
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: And what was so cool about it to me was

834
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: Johnny he didn't want to tell me.

835
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 7: That story that that's what I was going to say,

836
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 7: the setup because if he had been like, I got

837
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 7: a story for you, Oh check out how good I am?

838
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 6: Right well, and he, uh, you know, he said, he

839
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 6: kind told it to you just by chance.

840
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: It was totally about chance. I wasn't even at his house.

841
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: It was when I went to his cab his place

842
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: to get him to tell me about yeah, like his

843
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: whole life, which was one of the coolest episodes of

844
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.

845
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 5: So three fourteen Confessions of a Former Outlaw.

846
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: Okay, now that was that one. I was saying, what's

847
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: the Deer Stories episode? So Johnny had episode three fourteen,

848
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: which is Confessions of a Former Outlaw I think, in

849
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: my mind, one of the coolest stories that we've ever told.

850
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: And then the Deer Stories one. But yeah, So I

851
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: was at Johnny's to talk about Turkey, and I was

852
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: just looking at his wall of deer and and there

853
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: was one that was the biggest, just clearly the biggest,

854
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: and I just said, hey, is that the biggest deer

855
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: that y'all have killed over in this part.

856
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: Of the country.

857
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: Kind of just trying to get a feel for how

858
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: big the deer were, because sometimes you go into people's

859
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: place and you see a bunch of deer on the

860
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: wall and they go, oh, these aren't the big ones.

861
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 2: The big ones are in my living room. Yep, that's

862
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 2: actually pretty common. Yeah, and they go, oh yeah, these

863
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: just in the barn are the ones that didn't make

864
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: it to the shoulder mount, you know what I mean.

865
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: And I mean they were a huge deer. So I

866
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: was anticipating him telling me this is the big one.

867
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: It was like, I'd say, one hundred and fifty type

868
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: inch deer and he said, he said, yeah, that's probably

869
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: the biggest one, except for you know, we gave one away.

870
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: One that probably bigger than that we gave away.

871
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: And then he just started talking about the other deer,

872
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, wait a minute, let's circle back.

873
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: Tell me what you mean by it gave it away.

874
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: And he just went, oh god, we all kind of

875
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 2: shot at the same time, and you know, this guy

876
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: killed it, and old man, I mean, he just like

877
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: he was just like, let's keep moving, Clay, this is

878
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: not that interesting to the story. And so when we

879
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: sat down and he had a recorder on, I said,

880
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: you got to tell me the whole story, give me

881
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: the whole story.

882
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: And so he did, and it was pretty phenomenal.

883
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: I actually had another story on this is kind of

884
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: behind the scenes.

885
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Uh. One of the storytellers I won't tell who.

886
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: Had a story that they were gonna tell me and

887
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: did tell me that was spurred on by Johnny's story

888
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: because it was the opposite. Two guys shot and there

889
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: was a major conflict over who killed the deer, and

890
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: to the point that one of the guys went and

891
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: put his foot on the rack and said, Okay, well

892
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna break the rack and you know, you

893
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: can take half and I can take half or something

894
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: like that.

895
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 7: Oh real Solomon, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and so you.

896
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: Are the true mother.

897
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

898
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: So it was a real ugly story though, I mean

899
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: it was like, you know, just guys just each.

900
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: Other kill the energy of the podcast.

901
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was. And so anyway, it just

902
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: didn't really fit.

903
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of stories that don't end like yeah,

904
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: Johnny's did.

905
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: But I also so think that.

906
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot of those old guys that like Ernie

907
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 2: in Matt's story, who doesn't really care about the horns,

908
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: that much, which is bizarre to me. Louet Dell and

909
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: Charlie Edwards, the Turkey hunting outlaws that we did the

910
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: series on Genuine Outlaws. Those guys were deer hunters and

911
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: their whole life, I mean, killed a lot of deer

912
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: and they never kept the horns really, I mean they

913
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: give them away to people. Their horns are just scattered

914
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: throughout the county. I talked to Stony one day, I

915
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: mean when I was doing that interview and I was like,

916
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: what's the biggest deer your dad ever killed? And he said, oh,

917
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: he killed a giant one time.

918
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: You know, big, you know.

919
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: He described it to me, and I mean, I feel

920
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: like he was describing a one hundred and sixty inch

921
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: maybe bigger type deer.

922
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I'd like to see that.

923
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: I want to get a picture of it. And he

924
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, we don't even have it.

925
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 4: I don't even know where it is.

926
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: He said that gave it away.

927
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: I was like, gave it away and he's like, oh yeah, yeah,

928
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: he said, Clay. He said, those deer when they're those

929
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: horns are stacked up at our camp the week of

930
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 2: deer season. He said, they mean something to us, because

931
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: when they kill a deer, they put the.

932
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: Horns on the woodpile. And he said, when we pack

933
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: up that next Saturday to go home, those horns don't

934
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: mean a thing does and they just kind of give

935
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: him away.

936
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 5: Even to this date, Stoney says that about himself.

937
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know. I mean, he'd probably keep a

938
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: big one. I mean, I don't really know. He just

939
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: said that's the way his dad and them were, and

940
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: he was talking about himself when he said that doesn't

941
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: really mean that much to us. But I think the

942
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: culture around keeping horns is way stronger today than it

943
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: than it probably was in the past. I mean, I

944
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: think people want to keep a set of horns today,

945
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: but I know Mo Shepherd does.

946
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 6: I'd ad they'll give away several sets of horns, and

947
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 6: even killed He's go out West and Colorade and he

948
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 6: hunted Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, elkhinned Mulier. He kills some big

949
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 6: mule deer and he'd bring them home and he'd show

950
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 6: them off. And then I remember when I was like, Kenna,

951
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 6: let me go. Some people came by and he was

952
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 6: showing them the horns of big mule deer. He'd kill

953
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 6: and they said, both those are nice horns. He said,

954
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 6: we do you want them? They said, yeah, we like

955
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 6: to have them to take home or do what? And

956
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 6: he just give them to him And I remember him

957
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 6: doing that several times as a kid growing up.

958
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

959
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: He didn't think much about the horns, you know.

960
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: So yeah and eat.

961
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

962
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: What was your favorite story?

963
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 4: Mo?

964
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Which one stood out to you?

965
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 6: I really liked the one that you were you all

966
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 6: were talking about, you know, but as uh to hit

967
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 6: on another base, I really liked the one of of

968
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 6: whaling the lines. I mean, even if it hadn't been

969
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 6: a monster buck, that's the way it all took place,

970
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 6: him hunting him, missing it, uh, not getting to go

971
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 6: back for a while, and going back and and that's

972
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 6: what he does set one of those finger ridges. Did

973
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 6: you hear that in the story?

974
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: Bear?

975
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: I didn't notice it.

976
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

977
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 6: Him and his wife went with him and they went

978
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 6: and sat on a finger ridge aways from where he

979
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 6: had because he said it looked like a better place

980
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 6: to maybe ambush a big deer, another good deer.

981
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 4: And anyway, that's where he wound up killing it.

982
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 6: And there's one of them where it don't happen very often.

983
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 6: It's happened to me twice my whole life, where I

984
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 6: walked up the deer and it's a lot bigger than

985
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 6: what I thought it was when I when I put

986
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 6: my sights on it or slung an air at it,

987
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 6: or yeah, done something to it, you know, And that

988
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 6: don't happen very often. And it happened for sure on

989
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 6: his stuff.

990
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: That deer. I wish you could see it. It truly

991
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: is just giant. It doesn't look like it came from ozarks.

992
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: It's a mainframe eight eight point, I mean, just like

993
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: I imagine, just a clean eight point. Now it does

994
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: have the number of kickers, but they're but they're just

995
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 2: I think they're on the G two's. I can't remember

996
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: had something maybe some on the base is a few,

997
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: but just I mean don't I can't.

998
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: Remember how long the times were?

999
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: Is that what that we said?

1000
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: Like it was six and a half at the base

1001
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: and four at the tips come out to where.

1002
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: They flashed out on the just just kept its mass

1003
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: and yeah, and this is just on this old rocky

1004
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: ground over here.

1005
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, that that was a good That was a

1006
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: good story. That was a great story.

1007
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 6: Like I said the way the whole thing transpired, it

1008
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 6: was a really great story. And then them dragging it out,

1009
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 6: and then he even made that comment, you know, even

1010
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 6: though he's got that deer and got those horns, I don't know,

1011
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 6: I he's got it matter what. But he even made

1012
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 6: that comedy. You don't never hunt for horns. I just

1013
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 6: hunt for the deer because I like the meat. And

1014
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 6: yeah sometimes that's who killed some of them monster deer.

1015
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: So yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. What what other what

1016
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: other stories were in there?

1017
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 5: Had the father Stephen Gadberry's story about him and hunt

1018
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 5: with Jesus.

1019
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: It was like it threw me, you know, I thought

1020
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: it was going to be one of these you deals

1021
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: like hunting with Jesus, you know, and he was like, actually,

1022
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean, like for real.

1023
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny. He uh he

1024
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 5: got a good chuckle ot of that one.

1025
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1026
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 5: Oh those fighting bucks with uh.

1027
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 2: Richard thought, so Richard thought he's worth talking about. He

1028
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: is uh pretty well known that he's been on the

1029
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 2: Southern Outdoorsman podcast several times. I think one of there

1030
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: Andrew and Jacob's best like most listened to episodes ever

1031
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: was with Richard.

1032
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 4: Thought I listened to one of them that he was on.

1033
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were on there the other day. All sure,

1034
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: we're all famous and look look good on there.

1035
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: I think it turned out really well.

1036
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 6: I've got a lot of comments about that episode, about

1037
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 6: the red lines and everything on it.

1038
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, uh, that guy's killed some big deer.

1039
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's he really has.

1040
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 4: And uh, I'll tell you what.

1041
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 5: I got to talk to Richard, and I I really

1042
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 5: enjoyed visiting with him because he he's real open about

1043
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 5: it now. He was he was a pretty rough guy

1044
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 5: back in the day and when he was doing a

1045
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 5: lot of his hunting, and man, he just he completely

1046
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 5: turned his life around and he's a really pleasant guy

1047
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 5: to be around and got some great stories, a good,

1048
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 5: really good storyteller.

1049
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 2: He told us the story it's not on the episode,

1050
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: but about uh fist fighting a bear, yeah literally outside

1051
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: of a bar, literally like like.

1052
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 5: Fist fighting a bear and losing big yes.

1053
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 3: Yes, well it's not entirely surprising.

1054
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

1055
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 6: Oh.

1056
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 7: I liked his details about like the kid carrying the

1057
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 7: stand in and clanking against his ankles every time he

1058
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 7: took a step, and then the seeing the was it

1059
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 7: the blood come out the aluminac.

1060
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, coming out ye too.

1061
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 8: I mean, like he said, he was on public ground

1062
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 8: and then two bucks of that caliber fighting. I I

1063
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 8: wonder how that deer, like, if that deer like saw

1064
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 8: him right there, or like if it was just so

1065
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 8: in the moment, yeah, just you know, out of breath

1066
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 8: and had so much adrenaline pumping that it just like

1067
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 8: I didn't even notice him. But I wonder how he

1068
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 8: even got four steps from a deer.

1069
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd think that even.

1070
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 2: When the wind was howling, and you know, he told

1071
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: the keys to it, and I think that was the key,

1072
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: is that the wind was howling. And I mean sometimes

1073
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: you'd be surprised what you can do when if it's

1074
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 2: real windy. And I think when those bucks are that

1075
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: focused on one another, they just lose focus of everything else,

1076
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 2: you know. And so I mean I think he had

1077
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: two things going for him there, you know, where he

1078
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: could just get up to him.

1079
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't know I agree with that

1080
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 6: because you know, it's been several year ago. But I

1081
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 6: was sitting on the ground on just a little blind

1082
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 6: place I built and I've been there most morning. It

1083
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 6: was probably in a couple after that light and I

1084
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 6: heard racket, and I thought, what is that I'm hearing?

1085
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 6: It sounded like somebody banging rocks together.

1086
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 4: And then curio.

1087
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 6: I mean, this was like in the late eighties, probably

1088
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 6: eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine, and.

1089
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 4: When I could still here real good.

1090
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 6: But I slept there for a while, and then it

1091
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 6: would stop, and then it'd get louder, and I could

1092
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 6: tell her just around the ridge from me on it.

1093
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 6: I was on a bench, and so I got up

1094
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 6: and went started slipping towards it, slipping towards it, and

1095
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 6: the closer I got, the ladder got well. I finally

1096
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 6: got over that crest of that there it was on

1097
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 6: like a white oak bench where there's.

1098
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 4: You know, they're usually pretty open.

1099
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 6: I mean you can there's still some brush, but you

1100
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 6: can see Pey gooding out there. Probably one hundred yards

1101
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 6: I could see moving.

1102
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 4: Got looking. It was three bucks and they were fighting,

1103
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: like what his story said to them, you know, they

1104
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 4: wanted to get down.

1105
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 6: I remember first when I first saw him, they was

1106
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 6: two shoving each other, and I was muzzloader hunting. Had

1107
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 6: an old renegade muzzloader with open sides. I thought oh gosh,

1108
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 6: I gotta get closer, you know. And I didn't really

1109
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 6: know what to do, but I thought, well, they're occupied,

1110
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 6: and the wind was okay, it was blowing hard that day,

1111
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 6: and so I started slimming apit closer and by the

1112
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 6: time I seen moving again in that third buck run

1113
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 6: as hard as he could run, and I still remember today,

1114
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 6: did that real loud like that, and just rammed the

1115
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 6: side of one of them that was really fighting with

1116
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 6: the other really and spun around and they went the

1117
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 6: button each other, and this one to fight on it.

1118
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 6: And I just kept getting closer, and I got about

1119
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 6: probably fifty sixty yards of them and got down on

1120
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 6: one knee and got me a rest and took a

1121
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 6: shot and shot my muzloader and they just kept fighting

1122
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 6: really yeah, And I thought, oh crap, I missed, you know.

1123
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 6: And back then you got black power, you got a patch,

1124
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 6: you got a ball. I didn't have all the fancy

1125
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 6: bullets in. So I go to reloading and here they come.

1126
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 6: They start coming towards me, fighting and then one rams another,

1127
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 6: and I'm trying to load and watch.

1128
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 4: The deer and do all that.

1129
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: Do you know which one you shot?

1130
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? They were all three wound up. I think they

1131
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: would have been eight points, but one was a little bigger.

1132
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: He was he was had taller rack, and that's the

1133
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 4: one I picked out.

1134
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 6: They was he was one of the two that was

1135
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 6: first fighting to get and one of the smaller of

1136
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 6: the three is wanted run and rammed into.

1137
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 4: The the other ones.

1138
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 6: Anyway, to shorten the story up a little bit, I

1139
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 6: finally got my gun loaded and as the it's coming

1140
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 6: towards me. They were probably thirty forty yard they were.

1141
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 6: The two were fighting, and this one was behind them,

1142
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 6: the bigger one. I thought, well, why is he behind them?

1143
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 6: You know? And I got ready to shoot again and

1144
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 6: he just collapses. It's the one I had shot, but

1145
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 6: he paid no attention to that shot. He was still

1146
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 6: wanting to fight with those other deer.

1147
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 4: Wow, and they.

1148
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: Haven't you told me this story before?

1149
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 4: You just.

1150
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: That story I've heard you tell.

1151
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 4: Well, it brought to my mind. I mean, I've got

1152
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 4: so many stories over the years, I've hunted so much.

1153
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 6: I mean just I just thought of it when when

1154
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 6: you all got talking about.

1155
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 3: Most forgotten, better stories than you've.

1156
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: Ever That's that's wow, that's cool. I was going to

1157
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: ask you if you'd ever really seen deer just.

1158
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 6: Like I mean, they were getting like you know, and

1159
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 6: they weren't monster bucks, but they were nice mountain bucks,

1160
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 6: all three of them. And like I said, I think

1161
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 6: I killed the best of them, but I'm not absolutely

1162
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 6: sure I did, because they were all moving, the open

1163
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 6: sides and all that, but I think I killed the

1164
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 6: best rack one. But they were all, you know, in

1165
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 6: that class of fifteen sixteen each deer eight points, just

1166
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 6: good mountain public lan deer.

1167
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, wow, that's cool, I don't.

1168
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen plenty of deer tickle their horns together.

1169
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 2: I've probably seen some young deer get fairly serious fighting,

1170
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: but I can't say that I've ever seen like like

1171
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: what Richard saw, or even like that where I.

1172
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 6: Said, I remember my dad was still alive then he

1173
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 6: died in ninety one, and now I know it was

1174
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 6: two three years before he passed away. But when I

1175
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 6: brought that deer back home and shut it to him,

1176
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 6: we were looking at it.

1177
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 4: You could there was holes poked in it.

1178
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 6: When we skinned it out where they'd been fire pretty hard,

1179
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 6: you know, were other horns, and that maybe been from

1180
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 6: where that small one run into one I shot, you know, yeah,

1181
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 6: I said. They were had to down a little close

1182
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 6: to the ground doing you know, shove and push like that,

1183
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 6: and that one just made two or three loud grunts and

1184
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 6: just well, wham not that one come away from.

1185
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: The other one. So wow, But it's pretty awesome.

1186
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 6: And the all other time I seen that happen was

1187
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 6: another time I was bow hunting. I didn't kill a deer,

1188
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 6: but I seen a buck with a dough out and

1189
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 6: a little clearing and an old home place where I

1190
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 6: was sitting and watching some acrons, and there was feeding

1191
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 6: on acrons early in the season, and the and the.

1192
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 4: Buck was kind of peeling around.

1193
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 6: And at that time, this was several years after that,

1194
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 6: but I was trying my grunt call out and I

1195
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 6: would drunk, and the dough and the buck would both

1196
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 6: look towards me. Then they just go back to the

1197
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 6: head kind of sniffing around. And how I could do

1198
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 6: behind her, and she was mainly just eating acrens. And

1199
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 6: there was probably fifty sixty yards from me. I was

1200
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 6: up standing on an old limb on a white oak

1201
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 6: tree with my ree curved bow. When I used to

1202
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 6: hunt a lot, when I could climb trees easy. But

1203
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 6: uh uh, I heard remember hearing stick's breaking. I looked

1204
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 6: in a really nice buck came from behind me somewhere

1205
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 6: and came running, grunning back like that, and he ran

1206
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 6: and knocked that deer down, that smaller buck, and they

1207
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 6: fought this a little bit, and then he walked over

1208
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 6: and rose the door around and they took off with

1209
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 6: the other direction, and I never did see him nowhere

1210
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 6: after that.

1211
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: But Wow came and took it from her. Yeah, from him,

1212
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: but it wasn't.

1213
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 6: Much of a fight because he was a lot bigger deer.

1214
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 6: But I tried drunking and everything, and he never paid

1215
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 6: me no attention. Once he was with that dough, they

1216
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 6: took off. But that's the two instances I've seen bucks

1217
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 6: kind of spar off in.

1218
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 4: The woods like that. But that first one was pretty awesome.

1219
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: Where have you ever seen deer fight?

1220
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 8: Time with Lee Walt whenever I was like a little kid,

1221
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 8: we saw two I don't think they were giant bucks,

1222
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 8: but two bucks down on Yeah, they were racked bucks

1223
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,959
Speaker 8: and they were they fought a little But I've never

1224
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 8: I've never really seen and I'm other than that get

1225
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 8: after it that I could think.

1226
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 4: Of m h m hm.

1227
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: Well, uh, we've got one more Deer Stories episode is

1228
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: gonna come out. I was only gonna do two, and

1229
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: then the stories were we're good and I like doing these,

1230
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: so we're gonna do We're going to have one more

1231
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 2: that's gonna come out yep next week.

1232
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 7: So it's some of the best news I've had all day.

1233
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: Wow.

1234
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 6: Okay, So you wouldn't believe the people friends of mine

1235
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 6: and even family members of people I work with that

1236
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 6: I talked to on and off that they always asked

1237
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 6: me throughout the late summer and early fall, are they

1238
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 6: going to do deer episodes?

1239
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 4: Are they going to do on Bear Grease?

1240
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 6: I said, well, probably will I said, you know, I

1241
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 6: don't know for sure, but I forget it was they

1242
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 6: and a lot of people say that's some of their favorites,

1243
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 6: is the deer stories, and like, like I was talking

1244
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 6: about the Turkey stories in.

1245
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 4: The spring, they really liked them.

1246
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: So mm hm, Well, now that you burned up the

1247
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: best story, yeah, well we'll.

1248
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: Cut that and yeah, I'm almost serious. I might tell

1249
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: a story on this next one. Yeah, I've got I've

1250
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: got it. Yeah. Well, if they told the same story

1251
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: every year, well, that's the thing. That's the interesting thing

1252
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: about stories, and when you when you start going to

1253
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: people time and time again. I mean, I've almost literally

1254
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: deer hunted my whole life. And uh, there's only so

1255
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: many stories that are really great.

1256
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1257
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: I mean it's not it's not like you just have unlimited,

1258
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 2: really unique stories. And and most people, when you go

1259
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: to them and say, tell me your your stories, they've

1260
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: got one or two, maybe three that just are really great.

1261
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 4: And then.

1262
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: And so, I mean, they're hard to come by. So

1263
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm dipping into.

1264
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: The obscure story category. One of my stories may have

1265
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: to do with an explosion. Matt Taylor brought it to mind.

1266
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard me talk about an explosion? Well,

1267
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: in the vicinity of deer hunting.

1268
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 4: It doesn't ring a bill.

1269
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I told me about I ever told

1270
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: it on the podcast.

1271
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 3: Were You Hunting Taylor's Deer Camp? So there I was

1272
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 3: middle of the.

1273
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: Woods with Matt with Cody.

1274
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've told it on the podcast,

1275
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 4: but I know the one you're talking about. You told

1276
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: it to me.

1277
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm thinking about telling that story as rebuttal to

1278
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: Matt's story.

1279
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: Uh, And then.

1280
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, it's possible you might hear from me,

1281
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: but man, me and Isaac Neil are going.

1282
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, last time we hunted for an extended period of time,

1283
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 7: no stories.

1284
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: No none stories.

1285
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 4: That was tough. Yeah.

1286
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: We went to Illinois and uh, this first time in

1287
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: my life, and don't you ever use it against me

1288
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: world that I went on a fully guided whitetail hunt.

1289
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean I just never done that in my life.

1290
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: We were offered, You were invited.

1291
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: I was invited like two weeks before it happened, and

1292
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: it was like, hey, you could go to Pike County,

1293
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: Illinois on a on a fully guided white tail bow hunt,

1294
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: and it just worked.

1295
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: I need I wanted to go.

1296
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: Isaac went with me to film and we hunted for

1297
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 2: six hard days and I mean didn't kill a buck.

1298
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 7: I think we hunted for seven, probably were slated for six,

1299
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 7: and then you were like, let's do one more, which

1300
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 7: was Halloween.

1301
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: You're right, you're right, yeah, yeah, and it wasn't. It

1302
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: was you know, you can you can be in some

1303
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: great deer country and not kill the deer.

1304
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 4: You told me about that trip after you got back. Yeah,

1305
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 4: he said it.

1306
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 6: It was crazy to be in such a place like

1307
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 6: that and not get any opportunities of anything.

1308
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, we saw one shooter, yeah, one or two?

1309
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we saw two.

1310
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: Actually the first day we saw the one out of

1311
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: the back of the blind and then we.

1312
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: Saw we saw one more.

1313
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: But but so anyway, we're right in the middle of

1314
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: it right now. So Baron Newcomb has been hunting a lot.

1315
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: Saw four bucks yesterday. Anyway, we'll have we're making stories

1316
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: as we speak. So man, thanks everybody for listening to

1317
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 2: Bear Greece and Lake's Backwards University Prince. This country life

1318
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: means a lot to us Live Tour. There's still tickets

1319
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: for five of the six live.

1320
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: Tour destinations Birmingham, Alabama, Nashville, Tennessee, Memphis, Fadble, Arkansas.

1321
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 4: Sold.

1322
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Faydeville, that means a lot. I'll

1323
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: never forget you because of it. Dallas and Austin.

1324
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 3: Were you at risk of forgetting Fatville?

1325
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: Well, what I meant by that was.

1326
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: Just in the meat eater sphere scenes. That's awesome, behind

1327
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: the scenes, this corporate stuff that happens.

1328
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1329
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: They were like, hey, do you do you think Faydeville

1330
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: would do good because all the other cities are huge.

1331
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: You you out, yeah, And I said, come to our

1332
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: little po dunk city.

1333
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 6: He vouched for villain showed up, baby, and probably most

1334
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 6: people that's going to it, they don't even live in faith.

1335
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Are you going?

1336
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1337
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: We got table, Yes, a table.

1338
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 4: Good.

1339
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 5: I'm taking my friend Brian Beuley with me. Brian Bealey,

1340
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 5: he's the one who came and helped me the other night.

1341
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good good.

1342
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 8: So last time, weren't you gonna give it away to

1343
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 8: a random listener for the first person?

1344
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 5: A couple of a couple of I mentioned it to

1345
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 5: him and he said, I gotta get tickets and I said, sorry, pal,

1346
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 5: they are sold out, but you.

1347
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 4: Might happen to have a connections. We got ours a

1348
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 4: first day. They come available through the yeah deal.

1349
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 5: They sold out before just with the pre release.

1350
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: Wow what I'm saying? The first down the pre release yep,

1351
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 4: that's when we got ours. Yeah. Yeah.

1352
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: So the other shows will be really great too, they're

1353
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: just in other places.

1354
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 4: Yep.

1355
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: So all right, well, thanks guys, MO, good to see you,

1356
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 1: Good luck, y'all.

1357
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: Good seeing you again, Isaac, Yeah, of course, Josh. Always

1358
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 4: good to visit with y'all.

1359
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yep, well, keep the wild places wild, and

1360
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: that's where the bears look