1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Reinforcements are on the way. Welcome bird Gang. On today show, 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Danny Surrek joins me. A new face and several familiar 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: faces were on the practice field Wednesday, though none of 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: them were named Kyla Murray. Still waiting for him to return. 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: In the meantime, though, Josh Dobbs is playing some good, 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: very good football. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode six eighty one, 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: Budda Baker, What Heart? 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: What rent? 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: dot com Slash podcasts. 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: He's a ten half of five. He's it again, So 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: more Harry Magic. 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Grioloud. 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Once again, Danny has done it. She has spoken something 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: into existence. And that is now the second straight week 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: she called her shot against the Dallas Cowboys that was 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: a win, and then earlier this week she forecasted that 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Garrett Williams would be on the practice field on Wednesday. 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: For those that do not listen to Cardinals Underground, I 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: highly highly recommend it. It's a good listen, good chemistry. 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: But that is where Danny manifested the third round draft 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: pick being on the football field for the first time 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: ever in his Cardinals' career. 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: Well, it was last week at practice. I was standing 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: next to you and we saw Garrett Williams looking a 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: little more active than he has in the past. He 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: wasn't still on the NFI list because of his knee 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: injury recovering from that ACL injury he had last year. 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: He was standing he can't practice, but he was standing 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: around the position group and he was seemed more active 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: in practice. And I said to you, maybe he just 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: had he's less rehappy has to do. Maybe he's trying 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: to make sure what he's been studying, watching film and 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: in meetings, you know, seeing it out of practice. Maybe 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: he's just getting used to what a practice looks like, 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: the process of it and lo and behold. And I 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: think that's why when I asked defensive coordinator Nick Rawlis 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: the day before, I just worded as, what have you 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: learned about Garret Williams to the work ethic? What have 44 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: you gathered without seeing him out on the field so far? 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: And it was a good answer, but from Rawllis's normal answers, 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: it was much shorter than normal. So then when we 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: got the message from the public relations department that the 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: Cardinals were elevating him an elevating but designated to return 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: from the NFI list, I was like, ah, now it 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: all makes sense. 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: The practice window has been opened for Williams. So now 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: the key is twenty one days. The Cardinals have to 53 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: make a decision. You either activate him, put him on 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: that fifty three man roster, or leave him on the 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: NFI list. And it's it's something that a lot of 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: people have been pointing to this this week October second, 57 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: that Monday after the forty nine Ers game, because that 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: is when week four is complete and everyone is pointing 59 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray, is he going to be designated to return? Well, 60 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: there's also my j Sanders who is eligible to be 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: designated to return. Dennis Daley as well, who was designated 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: to return. So some help for that Cardinals offensive line. 63 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: But to me, the position in most need of help 64 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: right now is cornerback. That is why I am thrilled 65 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: to see Williams on the practice field. Now, how many 66 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: practices does he need in order to be game ready. 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but that is something considering he has 68 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: not played any football since tearing his ACL in October. 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: It's not like he had a training camp and missed 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: the first four weeks. He hasn't had any football activity 71 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: in almost a full calendar year. 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: I agree with you. Here's what's confusing about that thought is, 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: just a few days ago, one or two days ago, 74 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: the Cardinals released two cornerbacks, Chris Boyd and Christian Matthew. 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: So if you release two cornerbacks, is that not making 76 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: room on the fifty three man roster for your rookie 77 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: cornerback and Garrett Williams, Right, Doesn't that seem like that 78 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: would make sense. Although I'm on the same page as 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 3: you where we've seen zach Ertz coming off in ACL injury, 80 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: needed a few weeks of practice. That's what we have gathered. 81 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: What it seems like the plan for Kyler Murray would be. 82 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: You would think it'd be the same for Garrett Williams, 83 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: especially as a rookie who didn't have any sort of 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: tue off season out on the field whatsoever. 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: I would be surprised if we saw Garrett Williams, who 86 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: wears number twenty one for those interested and maybe just 87 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: have forgotten, it would be a surprise to see him 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: this week against the Bengals. Now we've been surprised before, 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: yet three practices and a walkthrough just doesn't seem to 90 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: be enough. It is a position, though, that I do 91 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: think this team needs to address, and whether that's this 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: week or next week, having Garrett Williams in that room 93 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: would give the Cardinals some help. Marco Wilson and Key 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: Trail Clark. They have missed combined five snaps this season. 95 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson is the only defensive player who has played 96 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: every single snap. The next two are Marco Wilson and 97 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: Key Trail Clark. Not that they can't handle it, although 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: I will say this, there's a spotlight on Marco. He 99 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: has struggled this season. It's been up and down. Keith 100 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: Trail has been fairly consistent, and you're going to get 101 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: beat at that position. You have to add that short 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: term memory as a cornerback, and what we've learned under 103 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Nick Ralis and this defense, they put their cornerbacks on 104 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: an island. They're not gonna get a lot of help, 105 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: and so it's the onus is on the player to 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: do their job, But can you work in a Garrett 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Williams again, whether that's this week or next week, to 108 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: maybe give a little bit of rotation to help that secondary. 109 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that again is what's interesting is you would think, look, 110 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: I agree with you, that is of all the players 111 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: that are coming back in the positions that you need 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: that extra depth, that cornerback does scream like the top 113 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: need of the other positions where you're getting players coming 114 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: back this week. It's just interesting of if we're saying, look, 115 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: the cornerbacks need that extra help, right, Garrett Williams. The 116 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: draft profile on him, the expectations were very high. He 117 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: fell to the third round of the Cardinals because of 118 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: that injury. But what are realistic expectations of not just 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: when can he get on the field, but what's a 120 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 3: realistic expectation of what he can provide to this team? 121 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: That was a question I also had for Nick Rolis. 122 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: Didn't get a really specific answer, which makes sense. It's 123 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: a player by player case. Similar to the rookie b 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: jo Jalai missed all of the offseason as a rookie, 125 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: which is imperative because he was rehabbing an injury, so 126 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: his snap counts have been low and have progressively been 127 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: getting more and more each week. And when we've talked 128 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: to his position coach Robertdriguez, he said, look the things 129 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: that BJ is learning or having to correct the other players, 130 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: the other rookie specifically had an entire offseason do that. 131 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: It's just going to take time. I would expect the 132 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: same for Garrett Williams as a rookie of your having 133 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: to very quickly. Yes, he's been learning the scheme, but 134 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: now he's having to put it out into action on 135 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: the field, and you're having to do so and quickly 136 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: learn your mistakes. I did like though, that was a 137 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: note that Garrett Williams made outside his locker room to 138 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: the media Wednesday, of the mentality of it's not easy 139 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: to suffer such a significant injury and then go out 140 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: on the field and not have that even in the 141 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: far back of your mind of maybe being a little 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: more cautious, Williams said, I don't have time for that. 143 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: The season's already started. I'm already behind in the sense 144 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: of he hasn't played yet, not behind in understanding things. 145 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: He said, I don't have time to be thinking about 146 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: any of that or to be hesitating in any of 147 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: my moves, Like now that I'm out there practicing, I've 148 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: got to make the most of it. 149 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: He's jumping into the deep end, and now the question 150 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: is when do the Cardinals kind of force the issue 151 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: and get him out there on that football field. I 152 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: do think it. It's maybe a little bit unrealistic to 153 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: see him on Sunday, but again, that is a position 154 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: of need. It would also help regardless of this week's 155 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: opponent or not. But that secondary, if you had a 156 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: more consistent pass rush. We hear that phrase rush and cover, 157 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: cover and rush. They work simultaneously. If you have a 158 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: strong pass rush, then you're not asking as much from 159 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: your secondary. If you don't have that strong pass rush, 160 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, yeah, you're asking Marco and 161 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Key Trell to cover an extra second, an extra second 162 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: and a half. And then I don't care how good 163 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: of a cornerback you are, you can be an all pro. 164 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: You cannot cover a wide receiver in this league. If 165 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: you're the quarterback has all time to throw, It's just 166 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: it's impossible. That's why there needs to be a little 167 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: bit more of a consistent pass rush. For this Cardinals, 168 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: which happened sparingly this past week against the forty nine ers. 169 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: It's so interesting because the first four weeks that position group, 170 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: specifically in the outside linebackers, has exceeded at least my expectations. 171 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: I don't speak for everybody else, but they came out hot, 172 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: like they came out swinging to start the season. It's 173 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: been very impressive. I just wonder, with the constant rotation 174 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: and the type of players they have, right, the body type, 175 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: the lack of overall experience, what is realistic week after 176 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: week from that position group. Right of you don't have 177 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: any of those star powers, right, you don't have anybody 178 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: that's having to get double teamed. So when you only 179 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: have one sack and Dennis Kardak last week, I'm expecting 180 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: other weeks where that's a similar number. Like we're not 181 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: going to have weeks again. I don't think on consistent 182 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: basis where this team is having four or six sacks. 183 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: It's doable. But I just think when you continue to 184 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: look at this schedule and these opponents and how fast 185 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: these quarterbacks are getting rid of the ball, I just 186 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: don't know how much how realistic it is to have 187 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 3: such a presence in that area of the game from 188 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 3: this position group. I mean you were talking about Joe 189 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 3: Burrow's getting the. 190 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: Ball out how fast two point four four seconds, which 191 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: is the second fastest according to next Gen stats. 192 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: And there's reason, right, injury and personnel and all that, 193 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: but the point is, I mean he's getting the ball 194 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: out that quick like, and that that's part of the 195 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 3: you know, your weighing of like pros and cons of 196 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: when you're looking at stats of outside linebackers is it's 197 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: so much more than sacks. And so even if they're 198 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: not putting up those big sack numbers, because Joe Burrow's 199 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: getting the ball out quickly, right, it's just as important 200 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: to get those pressures, those hurries, those hits, all of 201 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,119 Speaker 3: those components. 202 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: And with the Bengals, and because Burrow has been so 203 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: limited this season with that calf strain, I mean he 204 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: is in shotgun almost one hundred percent of the time. 205 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: He's not under center because he can't take the ball 206 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: from center because of CAF, so he has to rely 207 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: on a one step drop after the shotgun snap and 208 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: then get the ball out to his playmakers. So again 209 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: the onus is on the cornerbacks. Maybe because you're not 210 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: having that time as Davin Collins, Dennis guard At, Cameron Thomas, 211 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: bj Jolari, Jesse Luketta. They don't have Victor d mcage. 212 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to leave anyone out. They don't have 213 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: the time. Even if they beat their guy, by the 214 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: time they get in the face of or even a 215 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: step before getting to the quarterback, the ball is already 216 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: behind them. 217 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: Right, And it's I agree. We're on the same page 218 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: of you need better play tighter coverage in your secondary 219 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: every week. You know, like, look, they're facing Jamar Chase, 220 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 3: great wide receiver. But the thing is, at this point 221 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: in the league, every week this Cardinals defense is facing 222 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: a good receiver. Think of Brandon Nyuk and the space 223 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: that he had all game. He may have only had 224 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: what six or seven catches, right, but each one of 225 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: them was imperative and each one of them he had space. 226 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: And on his forty two yarder he was double teamed 227 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: by Jalen Thompson and Marco Wilson and Brock Party took 228 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: the risk and it ended up being worth it because 229 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: despite being double teamed, a Yuk made that catch. You 230 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: just you have to have better coverage in the secondary. 231 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: That's really what it boils down to. Is this team 232 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: missing a Buddha Baker who's still nursing a hamstring injury. Yes, 233 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: does having Buddha Baker out on the field eliminate all 234 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: of those problems? No, now he eliminates a lot of them, 235 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: but having him out there won't be the magic switch 236 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: of Okay, now everything is great again, Like just in general, 237 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: you need better tighter coverage. 238 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: During the open portion of practice on Wednesday, Garrett Williams 239 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: was working with the safeties, which is interesting because he's 240 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: a cornerback, and but again, open portion, what position group 241 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: are you working with? It was no different than earlier 242 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: in the offseason. Zavin Collins, Hey, look he's with the 243 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: outside linebackers. Well, that's that's different. That's strange. I just 244 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: love to see what happens Thursday and Friday. Was this 245 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: just to kind of get his feet wet again? First 246 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: practice in almost a calendar year, But they're starting him 247 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: with the safeties. Is that more as a nickel corner 248 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: I e. Jalen Thompson, you get Garrett Williams on the field, 249 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: you can move JT more as a safety again, A 250 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts here. It's very early in the process. 251 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: To me, though, that secondary needs help, and you've got 252 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: Garrett Williams and you got two more weeks without Buddha Baker. 253 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: I just part of me wonders if that's their way 254 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: of getting him comfortable, not just mentally but physically, of 255 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: let's get him involved. But that would limit his snap count. 256 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: You're not going to put him in there and have 257 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: him replace Marco Wilson er Kee Trawl Clarker's your starting cornerback. 258 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: That's how I kind of take it, as we want 259 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: to limit his snap count, It probably doesn't make the 260 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: most sense to take out Clark or Wilson to get 261 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: Garrett Williams those reps. You put him in at Nickel, Okay, 262 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: It kind of gives you the best of both worlds 263 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 3: in that situation. 264 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Kavon Wallace has missed a number of tackles the last 265 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Again, Jalen Thompson is a standout safety, 266 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: but you lose a lot when you do not have 267 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker on the football field. And they've tried to 268 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: figure out what they're going to do at that safety position. 269 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: Maybe it's another cornerback rather than a safety in the 270 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: back end. Now I mentioned Dennis Daily designated to return. 271 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: He missed the first four games because of an ankle injury. 272 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: More depth on that offensive line. Gannon on Wednesday, though, 273 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: did mention that Daily was going to have a role 274 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: at the start of this season. He was that sixth 275 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, whether for blocking or a quote unquote fullback. 276 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: But there was a role for Daily at the start 277 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: of this season. He misses those first four games, so 278 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: now you got some added depth, specifically in the interior. 279 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: But he can I also play tackle. Didn't quite play 280 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: very well at tackle for the Titans a year ago. 281 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: But again, depth along that offensive line. 282 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: I almost it reminded me of oh yeah, I forgot 283 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: the final preseason game in Minnesota. It was like back 284 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: to back injury. John Gaines and Dennis Dailey both being 285 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: carted off Gains with a season ending knee injury. So 286 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: it's great news to have Dennis Daily back. I would 287 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: imagine he will get most of the practice reps if 288 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: we see any game time, probably at left guard behind 289 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: Elijah Wilkinson. That was where we were seeing most of 290 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: Dennis Daily. Especially now we've learned that Tristan Cologne, who 291 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: was signed just a few weeks ago to the Cardinals, 292 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: was the backup center. He's the one who went in 293 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: when yelled. Deferholt had to miss a few snaps for 294 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: precautionary reasons from the league, which is great that they're 295 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: doing that to make sure players are healthy and safe 296 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: and not just playing through possible injuries. So I would 297 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: imagine while you would still want to make sure Cologne 298 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: and you have your options moving along the old line 299 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: of practice, I would imagine now that you have Dennis 300 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: Daily back, he'll probably get those reps as your backup 301 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: left guard, and you can really get Tristan Cologne a 302 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: lot of reps as your backup center. 303 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: Versatility along the offensive line key if you're going to 304 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: have a uniform on game day now. I did mention 305 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray and my J Sanders also eligible to return. 306 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: They have not been designated. I'm gonna take my J 307 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: first year before we talk about Kyler. 308 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: My J. 309 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: Sanders has been dealing with a hand issue that he's 310 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: been dealing with on and off since the start of 311 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: training camp. We've seen him watching the outside linebackers. I 312 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: would love to see him designated to return. But that 313 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: position right now is so deep. What do you do 314 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: if you do try to bring back my Jaman. It's 315 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: not like there's not a ten SAT guy in that 316 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: room right now. Dennis Gardek is the closest thing you 317 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: have right now to a consistent pass rush. Four sacks 318 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: leads the team. I think he's top ten or just 319 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: outside the top five as far as league rankings. But 320 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: there was a lot of I wouldn't say pressure, but 321 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: a lot of expectation on this season for both Cameron 322 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: Thomas and my Jay Sanders. Year two. For of those 323 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: draft picks, can you take that next step forward? We've 324 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: seen a little bit from Cameron Thomas, we haven't seen 325 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: any get from Sanders, and that's just because of the injury. 326 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: That makes me wonder again if it's going to be 327 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: a similar situation to aj Julari and what we can 328 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: expect from Garrett Williams of having to slowly work my 329 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: Ja Sanders back in. You touched on it. This is 330 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: not a player a long time veteran. This is a 331 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: player who we saw some flashes his rookie season last year, 332 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: but he's missed very important parts of not only obviously 333 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: the season in games with all the practices and understanding 334 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: this new scheme, and maybe his position coach Robradriguez wants 335 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: him to do things a little differently. That's an injury 336 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: that gets a little tricky of If you've got a 337 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: hand injury, you know you're not able to practice the 338 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 3: same way with your hand in the dirt or any 339 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: sort of like you know, bull rusher, you know, the 340 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: way you use your hands is so important that position group. 341 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: I would imagine that when MYIJA Sanders comes back, it 342 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: would probably be in a limited role to get him comfortable. 343 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 3: And you can do that because you have had, for 344 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: the most part, consistency from the players you've been playing outside. Again, 345 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: I was just saying, you know, you had six sacs 346 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: one week. That's not realistic each week. But I do 347 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: think that for the most part, that position group has 348 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: done a good enough job consistently getting some pressure, especially 349 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: when you've had such a such a banged up defensive line. 350 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: So I don't feel like you need to force Myija 351 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: Sanders to come in. There might be not necessarily a 352 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: drop off, but this the timing of this injury in Sanders' 353 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: career might have had a pretty significant delay in terms 354 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: of otherwise what his progress would have been up until 355 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: this point. 356 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: Limited reps, and are you with those limited reps, are 357 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: you showing enough to the coaches to wear Okay, this 358 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: can be something that once you get back, get healthy, 359 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: we can plug you right back in. And maybe it's 360 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: to the point now where he just does not have 361 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: that right now. 362 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: And what we've seen from him working on the side, 363 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: it looks like maybe a soft cast or a really 364 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: thick brace is what it's looked like on his hand. 365 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: Now. 366 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: The Kyler discussion, because I'm sure there's a lot of 367 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: fans that are disappointed that Kyler Murray was not one 368 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: of the players designated to return. Again, he's eligible. 369 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: And that's not a Kyler Murray not returning, that's a 370 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: people being disappointed. Well, you can be disappointed, I mean 371 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: why if he's not physically ready. 372 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: He's not ready, No, I get that, but disappointed because 373 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: you want to see Kyler on the football field, but 374 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: he's not ready. Because the key is, you get designated 375 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: to return, you have twenty one days, three weeks to 376 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: make a decision. You activate him, put him on that 377 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster or you'll leave him on pupp 378 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: and he's done for the rest of the season. So 379 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: if you don't believe, and obviously the Cardinals do not, 380 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray, if designated today, can be in a 381 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: game or be available to participate in a game within 382 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: three weeks, or put him on that roster and make 383 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: him the emergency third quarterback because he's still quite not 384 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: ready to participate, but you want him to get some 385 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: practice reps. And again this is all about roster spots 386 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: as well. You want to make sure that Kyler, once 387 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: he is designated to return and you put him on 388 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: that fifty three man roster, hed better be sooner rather 389 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: than later available to play and not just be that 390 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: inactive player on game day. 391 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: I am all in favor of not forcing this, and 392 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: a big part of that is because of the twenty 393 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: one day window that the teams have to activate a 394 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: player to the fifty three man roster. If they don't 395 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: think that he's going to be writing that time, you're 396 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: not going to take him off POP. And we've again 397 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: seen from good examples like zach Ertz suffered the same 398 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: injury a month before Kyler Murray. He was taken off 399 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: POP and had a practice for a few weeks. I 400 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: think it was exactly three weeks before that season opener, 401 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: so he really only had I think he had set himself. 402 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: He had like one true full week of practice. Every 403 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: player is different, every injury, every rehabit is different. However, 404 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: if that is the standard at which we're looking that 405 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: that's our measuring stick, and you need those three weeks, 406 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: it's such a risk. You can't risk it to designate 407 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray to return any sooner than that if you 408 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: think it's going to be maybe four weeks before he's 409 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: ready to return, because then you're using up a roster spot. 410 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: And thankfully the Cardinals seem to be getting a lot 411 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: of their players healthy, but they've been dealing with injuries. 412 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: Those rosters arts, they're important that you have players who 413 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: you can rely on on game day. 414 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: Can you afford a three quarterback fifty three man roster 415 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: right now? They got two, But that's what you would 416 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: be asking yourself if you designate Kyler and then that 417 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: window is up and you got to put him on 418 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: the roster, but he's not quite ready to be a backup. 419 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Because if Kyler is ready, he's gonna start he's not 420 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: going to be your number two quarterback. But if you 421 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: do put him on the fifty three man roster but 422 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: he's not quite ready, then you make him inactive one 423 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: of your seven or eight inactives. That means Clayton Tune 424 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: is your backup to Josh Doabbs. So now you have 425 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: to have three quarterbacks on your fifty three. 426 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: It wouldn't change the narrative because it obviously wouldn't affect 427 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray's rehab in his timetable to return. If you're 428 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: a Cardinals fan, though, you should feel the signs of 429 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 3: relief with how Josh Dobbs is playing. It would be 430 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: a different story if Josh Dobbs or any other quarterback. 431 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: We're not keeping this team in the game, We're not 432 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: creating opportunities Dobbs. We've talked about this every single week. 433 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: We don't need to go into depth again about just 434 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: week after week, how he is personally improving, the confidence, 435 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: the command, how that is spreading throughout the entire offense, 436 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: the strength of having a dual threat quarterback, the mobility 437 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: with Josh Dobbs's legs. It would be a different conversation 438 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: if the quarterback play we're not at the level it's 439 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: been at with Josh Dobbs, and you're anxiously waiting for 440 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray to return. 441 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: I think the noise would be a lot louder if 442 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Dobbs was struggling and you have this weapon, this first 443 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: round draft pick, this two time Pro Bowl or this 444 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: offensive rookie of the year waiting in the wings. But 445 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: I don't think how Dobbs performs, whether good, bad or indifferent, 446 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: factors into Kyler Murray's rehab. 447 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: No, when Kyler Murray comes back, he's your starting quarterback. 448 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 3: You said it. There is no question about that. Now 449 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 3: there's none. 450 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: We have seen instances in the past. The perfect example 451 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: is New England, Drew Bledsoe gets hurt, Tom Brady comes in, 452 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: You ride the hot hand. Bledsoe at the time the 453 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: highest paid player in the league. He's on the sideline, 454 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: and we know what happens with Brady seven Super Bowls later. 455 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: Now that was then, this is now. But there's that question. 456 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: I do understand some people thinking, Okay, Dops is playing 457 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: so well, why risk it. 458 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: Let me tell you why, because next year, although it's expensive, 459 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: is the first year you can get out of Kyler 460 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: Murray's contract. You are not going to make that decision 461 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: not having seen what Kyler Murray can do on the 462 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: field under head coach Jonathan Gannon offensive corner Drew Petsing, 463 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: with the personnel they have, with the scheme, and if 464 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: the Cardinals are going to have a high draft pick, 465 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: either from their own final standings or the Houston Texans, 466 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: who we need to start losing if they're not helping, 467 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: the Cardinals need to know whether or not they need 468 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: to draft another quarterback straight up. So to me, there's 469 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: no question whether or not Kyler Murray's your starting quarterback 470 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: the second he is ready to play, because you've got 471 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: a lot you need to figure out for the future 472 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 3: of this team, of this franchise with your quarterback. You 473 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: need to make sure that he is still a good fit, 474 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: which I believe he will be, especially with all the 475 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: play action that we've been seeing and how we have 476 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 3: seen this offense progress under Drew Petsing. But you need 477 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: to see it with your own eyes and you need 478 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: to know what is important for you to have in 479 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 3: the future and whether or not that revolves around Kyler Murray. 480 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: Let me change the scenario for you. I'm in complete 481 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: agreement with you, by the way, But let me change 482 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: the scenario. Say this team is not one in three. 483 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: They're three and one going into this week's game against 484 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals. Josh Dobbs is on fire. He's six and one, 485 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: six and two, five and three or whatever. You're right 486 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: there in the hunt. And you got Kyler Murray saying 487 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: I'm ready again. That's riding the hot hand. But I 488 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: do believe to your point, with this new front office, 489 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: this new coaching staff, this year was not the year. 490 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: You're not gonna hear that publicly from anyone in the 491 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: front office, the coaching staff, but I think we all 492 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: are in an understanding. This is the foundation year. This 493 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: is where you figure out who you can keep, who 494 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: you don't need any more, who can you build and 495 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: surround everyone with your pillars if you will, And you 496 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: have to figure out is Kyler Murray one of those pillars. 497 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: That's why. Now again they're not three and one, they're 498 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: one and three. But they are playing good football under 499 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs, which great for Dobbs. It could mean he's 500 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: back next year as a backup ber he's somewhere else starting, 501 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: so props to him. For what he's doing protecting the football, 502 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: orchestrating scoring drives and just being a tremendous person to 503 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: speak to. By the way, his interviews his mediability on 504 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday are phenomenal. Love listening to him. But again, the 505 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: record of the team and where you are does that 506 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: factor in? It doesn't right now. But if the team 507 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: gets on a run all of a sudden, you're four 508 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: and three, five and three, and Kyler's knocking on the 509 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: door and saying, hey, what about me? 510 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 3: You know what, if that is the case, then you 511 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: can bring that up and Cardinals cover TI when we 512 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: get there. Because it's just I understand that side of 513 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: writing the hot hand and making a push if you 514 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: are in it. I just think so many decisions ride 515 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: on whether or not Kyler Murray's your quarterback moving forward. 516 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: Is that fair to put him in that spot where 517 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: you just paid him and now all of a sudden 518 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: you're not playing him, or if you're going to play 519 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 3: him and the Cardinals get hot and then all of 520 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: a sudden they start losing and it's okay, let's just 521 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: throw Kyler Murray in there. And that's the situation you're 522 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: putting him in. I just I feel like there are 523 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: more cons than pros. If that's the decision that is made, 524 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: you have to think. 525 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: Long term versus short term right now. And to Murray's credit, 526 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: at least according to Jonathan Gannon, because the question was 527 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: asked on Wednesday about Murray, was he disappointed that he 528 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: has not been designated to return? And Gannon was like no, 529 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: And he did mention that Murray quote has a different 530 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: bounce in his step the last few weeks. Take that 531 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: for whatever it is, how well this team is playing. 532 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: What he thinks he could add to this offense when 533 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: he does get on the football field based on what 534 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: he has seen. So I do think everyone is in 535 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: lockstep as far as what the process with the plan 536 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: is as far as getting Kyler Murray back on the 537 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: football field. And heck, a week from this Wednesday, a 538 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: week from today, Danny, maybe we're having this same conversation, 539 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: just different because now Kyler is on the practice field, 540 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: he has been designated to return. 541 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: A bouncing a step that means his knees feeling good. 542 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: Ride if he's bouncing arounds. 543 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe we'll go with that. Kind of like you 544 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: you always have a bounce in your step. 545 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: Right, Thank you times. 546 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: I try sometimes all the time, all the time, thanks 547 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: all the time. By the way, some other injury notes 548 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: good news for the Arizona Cardinals. Jonathan Ledbetter back on 549 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: the practice field Wednesday after missing last week. Left hand 550 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: though heavily taste. 551 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. I mean, not a 552 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: full club, because he had some fingers that were out. 553 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: It was his thumb, his index and his middle finger 554 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 3: were free. But the fact that he only had to 555 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: tape his ring finger and his pinky and it was 556 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: that big of a club. Oh, he's got to be 557 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: in some pain. 558 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: And also some great field awareness. I almost got taken 559 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: out by Ledbetter at practice walking away where I was 560 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: standing trying to get a picture of Ledbetter. All of 561 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: a sudden, actually I was trying to get a shot 562 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: of Dennis Daley, who was on the other side of 563 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: the field, so I was not paying attention to the 564 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: defensive linemen who were right in front of me what 565 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: they were doing, and all of a sudden, out of 566 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: the corner of my I feel this rush. I looked 567 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: up as like, oh, there's number ninety three, and he 568 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 1: stopped and we joked about it in the locker room 569 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: during media availability. But yeah, I almost got taken out 570 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: by a defensive lineman. That would not have been good. 571 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: Head on a swivel crag. 572 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: Now you talk about Calvic getting run over by Rondell Moore, 573 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: that's one thing Jonathan Ledbetter over me. Yeah, I'd I'd 574 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: be questionable to play or to be on. 575 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: Air on Paul stayed on his feet if you were 576 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: getting crushed by Jonathan Ledbetter. 577 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: No, no, no, not to stay it on my feet. So 578 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: that's good news. Ledbetter is back on the field. Josh Woods, 579 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: inside linebacker, back on the field, and ankle injury has 580 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: forced him to miss the last three games, so it 581 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: was good to see number ten on the football field. 582 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: Kant Ingram was spotted during the open portion of practice, 583 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: although on the injury report officially listed as d NP 584 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: with that neck injury that cost him last week's game. 585 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: Other than that, this is a fairly healthy team. Knock 586 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: on wood, knock on wood. And again there's no LJ. Collier, 587 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: no callers, Carlos Watkins. They remained on IR as this 588 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: boot baker. But other than that, a fairly I mean, 589 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: the injury list is long, but as Gannon likes to 590 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: say just a little mix. 591 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 3: Look, you you're still light at defensive line, but getting 592 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: back these other players, hopefully sooner rather than later. You 593 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: do get back Myji Sanders, you do get Buddha Baker back. 594 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: It all ties together and it all helps. And I 595 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: don't want to say a weak spot, but a lighter spot, 596 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: which is the D line on this defense. 597 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: By the way, Sunday's game one oh five kickoff against 598 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals. 599 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: It's gonna be. I was just gonna say, what a 600 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: great uniform matchup. Oh, it's gonna be so cool. 601 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: Well the Bengals, I would think, so okay, so we'll 602 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: get all whites against the all blacks. 603 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: All right. 604 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: Cardinals were practicing in those alternate black helmets Wednesday, and 605 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: they looked good. I mean these are you look the 606 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: black uniforms, the alternate uniforms with the old uniforms looked good. 607 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: The black ones with the uniforms also look very good. 608 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: It's gonna be. I think it's going to be a fun. 609 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: One one oh five is the kickoff eight thirty. Pre 610 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: game coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. So 611 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: that is week five coming up on Sunday, and also 612 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: coming up on Easycardinals dot Com Thursday typically Thursday Sideline 613 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: Exchange and the most in demand player out of the week. 614 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson rightfully so though two touchdowns his first two 615 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns of his career. By the way, found out why 616 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: he kept both footballs. It wasn't for one for each 617 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: of his parents, which I brought up postgame because I figured, 618 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: why do you need to usually keep the first He 619 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: mentioned that he kept both because it was two on 620 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: that day. I was like, so if you had caught 621 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: four touchdowns, you would have kept all four. He goes, yeah, 622 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: because that was my first day of scoring a touchdown. 623 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, it's pretty cool. When I talked 624 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: with him in the interview, he had said the plane 625 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: doesn't have a plan of where they're going to go yet. 626 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: He said he probably will give them to his parents 627 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: right now, but the plan is ten. However, many years 628 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: when he's done, he's going to have a big room 629 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: and he's going to put all the memorabili and all 630 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: that stuff in there. So he doesn't have that room yet, 631 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: but that's what he's saving. Those two touchdown. 632 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: Balls for Sideline Exchange with Michael Wilson, who by the way, 633 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: the sixth most receiving yards among rookies and averaging almost 634 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: seventeen yards to catch, which is sixth best in the league. 635 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: Through four games, He's got two hundred and thirty seven 636 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: receiving yards, which is too shy of Hollywood Brown, who 637 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: leads the team. Michael Wilson, more impressively to me, has 638 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: the most yards after catch on the team with sixty nine. 639 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: The way he's been able to get open the trust 640 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: that this staff and his quarterbacks have in him for 641 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: those big time plays, those big time moments so impressive 642 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: as a rookie, and that's been from the beginning. He 643 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: didn't play a lot in the preseason, and that's because 644 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 3: most of the starters don't, So from early on, Michael 645 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: Wilson has shown that physically and mentally he knows what 646 00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: it takes. 647 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: And Dobbs brought that up on Wednesday when he was 648 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: asked about Wilson that when Dobbs arrived, he thought, again, 649 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: not knowing the Cardinals inside and out like you and 650 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: I do, Danny, but when he got on the field 651 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: and saw Michael Wilson running routes and practicing, he thought 652 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: that was a second or third year receiver based off 653 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: how well he was running routes and how well he 654 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: was focused and practicing, and only to realize, oh wait, 655 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: that's a rookie. He hasn't played in a game yet, 656 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: so that connection is still being worked out because he's 657 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: been targeted sixteen times. Talking about Michael Wilson, Harlowood has 658 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: been targeted thirty two times. So making the most of 659 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: your opportunities. I think those targets by Michael will only increase. 660 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I agree, and you hope the same whenever Kyler 661 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: Murray comes back. It was just a great interview with 662 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson. He is in high demand. I know we're 663 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: doing stuff with him for social this week. He also 664 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 3: talked to the meeting in the locker room after my interview. 665 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 3: He's also on the Big Red Rage, which is back 666 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: to having live show those ten live shows. 667 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: For those that are listening here on Cardinals Cover two 668 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals in 669 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: the area in Maricopa County, It's Trophy and Chandler on 670 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson. That's Thursday at 671 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: six pm. It's been what I think, since twenty nineteen 672 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: that The Big Red Rage has been consistently live on location. 673 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: There's been a couple of one Offskuisier White earlier this season, 674 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: Budda Baker on a schedule release a couple of years back. 675 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: But ten Thursdays now this season one hour with a player, 676 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: giveaways autographs. In fact, this week there's a pair of 677 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: tickets for the Cardinals Bengals game that will be given away. 678 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: And oh yeah, Paul Calvic. 679 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: And I was gonna say, it's not just a player. 680 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: You gotta give Wolf and Paul some love too. Look, 681 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: this stuff is so fun when the fans you get 682 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 3: to go and see those interactions live and then of 683 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 3: course you get to have some give or maybe get 684 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: something signed, get some tickets. When we talk to players, 685 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: I think that our content team as a whole does 686 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: a really good job of getting a feel for them 687 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 3: as a person. You can really feel that vibe. But 688 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: nothing beaks getting to know a player than watching that 689 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 3: interview live and getting to know their personality more that way, 690 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 3: and talking more than just football. 691 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: And if you are thinking or near Trophy and Chandler, 692 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: I would strongly encourage you to go out and if 693 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: you're curious about the access. Michael Wilson strikes me as 694 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: someone that one will show up on time and even 695 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: maybe hang around afterwards if there's enough fans that are interested. 696 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: Just again, I promising anything. I don't want to say 697 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: something and then have. 698 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: It not come to people flood in your dms. 699 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: But he just strikes me as someone that would engage 700 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: and be friendly and not just show up and then goodbye. 701 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I get that vibe from him as well. So 702 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 3: it should be fun and every week ten ten Big 703 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 3: Red Rage live episodes. 704 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: Of course, if Danny Surrek is the guest of the 705 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, we got the private we're going to 706 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: show up the security detail and then she'll just sneak you. 707 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: You can be my security. You're tall enough, you can 708 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 3: see everything I can't security detail. 709 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: Okay, we have to work on that, and of course 710 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: would require Paul to like invite you to the Big 711 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 1: Red Rage. 712 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: Oh that's true. 713 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that. Takes a very difficult invite. 714 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 3: To guess to really. Yeah, okay, good to know. Maybe 715 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 3: I won't be the guests maybe next year. Something to 716 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 3: work towards goals, right, Yeah, if you ever want to exactly. 717 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll work on that. And on that note, we 718 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: will put a lid on. This edition of Cardinals. Cover two, 719 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals has 720 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: always special thanks to our executive producer Jim Molmandro, our 721 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: associate producer Cody Fincher. For Danny Sirek, I'm Craig Real Lou. 722 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover 723 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: two No.