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Speaker 1: Okay, welcome back to you back nation. It is time

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Speaker 1: for the Jerry Jones Show, brought you by Ford, the

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Speaker 1: in Texas and over here on there he is. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: mister Jones. How are you doing today? Hey, guys, great

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Speaker 1: to be on with you, and we're ready for a

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Speaker 1: big weekend. Well, Jerry, our friend Chris Arnold isn't with

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Speaker 1: us today. But I'm just wondering. We heard that when

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Speaker 1: I was wondering, Chris, it's about to get that tail

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Speaker 1: hopefully we get another opportunity here Sunday afternoon. How important

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Speaker 1: is this game considering what happened down there last year?

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Speaker 1: Does it have a little something extra on it for you? Well?

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Speaker 1: It does, and I think that there were so many

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Speaker 1: It gives us a great template to be sure, we're

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Speaker 1: working on those things. But of course, as we all know,

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Speaker 1: of current things that they've exhibited over the last nine

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Speaker 1: But still they've added that other receivers from Alabama in

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Speaker 1: and he's added to mention he's a good football player.

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Speaker 1: How much better shape are you guys in this time

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Speaker 1: first of all with Zeke and the I think you

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Speaker 1: we lost Tyron last year. So it seems like you

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Speaker 1: last week, and it wasn't from Connor Williams. How do

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Speaker 1: you view that pick of Connor and what his future

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Speaker 1: looks like obviously it's very early in his career. Well,

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Speaker 1: think very very as to expectation, i'd say it that way.

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Speaker 1: We know what a challenge it is for a rookie.

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Speaker 1: a part of our future. And frankly, he's no farther

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Speaker 1: Jerry Layton Vander Eshcott defensive player of the Week in

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Speaker 1: Grades are a little bit of enigma the actual grade,

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Speaker 1: Vanderish pick is looking really good right now for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: And I think the Falcons are pretty happy with their

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Speaker 1: This is just kind of for my curiosity, but could

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Speaker 1: When we look at the schedules, these things are so

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Speaker 1: But based on what I see over the last seven games,

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Speaker 1: have a run in it like that? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: serious about that, because if you could pick them, we'd

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Speaker 1: Do you want to see your team playing desperate like

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Speaker 1: urgency of everything yesterday, everything urgent with an attentive urgency,

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Speaker 1: make mistakes. If we do that, we'll win games. Jerry,

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Speaker 1: for us in our defensive line. So, Jerry, I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: I think that it's happening. It happens. It's a very

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Speaker 1: make it illegal gambling in Texas, but wagering on sports

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Speaker 1: But gaming is a huge part of the interest in

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Speaker 1: How much poll do you have with the team? Well,

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Speaker 1: if it'll check your DNA and see how much Jones

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Speaker 1: Bloods you got in you does that help, I'll help

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Speaker 1: you a little bit seriously, seriously, and I'm nine fifty seven,

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Speaker 1: love to play baseball, but I have very much focused

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Speaker 1: as well as the competitiveness that becomes the reason that

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Speaker 1: since he said Hines fifty seven, it just I thought

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Speaker 1: a ketch up. Pat Mahomes said he likes ketch up

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Speaker 1: on his steaks. He likes ketch up on his mac

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Speaker 1: put ketch up on? Well, I love ketchup in chili

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Speaker 1: But ketchup is a is a big part of it.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of with those though. On steak, I like

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Speaker 1: ketchup any place like that. I used to as a

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Speaker 1: to really know what I was doing, I quit that. Well.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate j as always give him heck over there and

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Speaker 1: we'll be pulling for you. Thanks, guys. Enjoy it there

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Speaker 1: you go, Yes, we enjoy it too. As always, The

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