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Speaker 3: I'm good, Jinks? What's up, buddy?

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Speaker 2: Everything's well? This is like the calm before the storm?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: You know Fred did one of those his episodes. So

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Speaker 2: Well, coming up here on the show.

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Speaker 1: Since we're you know, we're writing the CUSP for summertime,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some guys to some guys who covered

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Speaker 1: the Boys this summer, talking about mister National. Ryan Zimmerman

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Speaker 1: is gonna be here, and then so is Dan Coleco,

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Speaker 1: the Nationals TV broadcaster. They have a podcast called The

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Speaker 1: Eleventh Inning Podcast. We're talking a little football and baseball

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for that. Are you ready for football?

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Speaker 3: I can taste it too.

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Speaker 2: It does test good especially the last season that we had.

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Speaker 1: The upcoming season, the rookies have been around, so you

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Speaker 1: And now let's bring in the guys from the Eleventh

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Speaker 1: Inning podcast. Now it's finally here, the Commander's Nationals Crossover.

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Speaker 1: You know these guys, mister National, Ryan Zimmerman, Dan cole

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Speaker 1: Co Nationals TV host, How you guys doing doing great?

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Speaker 5: Good man? Thanks for having us. It's uh, it's exciting

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Speaker 5: to be over here and guys got a good thing going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to finally win.

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Speaker 6: No question, winning is fun. You'll probably I've cut you.

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Speaker 4: I probably expected Fred, but I feel in front for

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Speaker 6: So are you gonna act like Fred or nobody? Nobody? Nobody?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Fred, But I'm happy that they call me because

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna show him how he's supposed to

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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 1: Over well, Fred keeps saying he wants to host my

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Speaker 1: bachelor party, which I think we've all agreed here is

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Speaker 1: when Tann is like.

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Speaker 3: No, as long as he don't he don't do it

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Speaker 3: on a boat, we are right, that's all.

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Speaker 2: I'm not like I think it's a hard no, Like

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things good in theory, but in

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Speaker 1: practice you're like, I don't now.

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Speaker 4: Now, I will say this, if you let your if

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Speaker 4: you let your friends set it up and let him

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm trying to get you guys there. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to get Logan there. I need a family man

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Speaker 1: there to like like pull me out, you know, like

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how that goes down.

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Speaker 3: If I'm I got you back, okay, I'll make sure you.

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Speaker 2: We got to make you help.

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Speaker 1: So guys, first of all, let's let's talk about your

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Speaker 1: podcast that you guys started, and then we can talk

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Speaker 1: about the national season.

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Speaker 2: So this just got.

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Speaker 1: Underway and I saw it online a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: So how did this get underway? And when can we

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it kind of just started. I guess

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Speaker 5: any interest in doing it. And I've never been a

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Speaker 5: this is my fourth year retired, and figured it was

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Speaker 5: Dan thought would be fun, and you know, we have

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Speaker 5: trying to get other people on and expand it. You know,

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Speaker 5: DC has so many cool things other than sports. Obviously

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Speaker 6: This is the National's twenty first year of existence.

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Speaker 7: So now at this point we've gone from a young

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Speaker 7: team that didn't really have a lot in terms of

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Speaker 7: the past, so we do some that, but I mean

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Speaker 7: I have a lot of fun.

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Speaker 6: We joke around.

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Speaker 7: We want fans to send in funny comments and questions

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Speaker 3: Not Ryan.

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Speaker 4: For you, being dead is kind of new to you

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Speaker 4: because I remember being a fish out of water for myself.

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Speaker 4: Do you find yourself saying okay, I know baseball, but

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, have that transition been.

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Speaker 5: For you this and then doing I've done some of

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Speaker 5: the broadcasts. Oh yeah, and you get nervous, Yeah, because

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Speaker 5: I've enjoyed it more than I thought I would. And

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Speaker 5: you know, for me, it's it's fun. I mean that's

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Speaker 5: hang out, we talk about sports, we talk about you know, food, restaurants,

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Speaker 7: And we're you know, all of us are around the

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Speaker 7: same age. I feel like you guys probably feel the

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Speaker 7: same way. Like to Ryan's point, like it's just guys

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Speaker 2: Like just some guys talking.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. And there's microphones and cameras here too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And what is it like for you?

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Speaker 1: Because I've gone through this with Tanna with Smooth some

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Speaker 1: remember being the locker room cover in Santana, Ore, we're smooting.

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Speaker 2: Now it's like and now we're working together. So what

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Speaker 6: It initially I think was a little different.

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Speaker 7: But Ryan and I, like, you know, I covered him

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Speaker 7: Like that's kind of what they want you to become now.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it was just easier to be

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Speaker 5: I think the players that end up doing this, you

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Speaker 5: still have to realize it, like I've learned. You got

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Speaker 5: to remember how hard the game was. It's it's not

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Speaker 5: it looks way easier when you're talking about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So I try and make sure I do that. But

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Speaker 5: and I think a lot of this media stuff now

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Speaker 5: is the best way to put it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll tell, we'll sell some of the stories that

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Speaker 4: go through that and see how it felt in the

441
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Speaker 4: building as a rookie being the first round drift pick

442
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Speaker 4: and can't play, and how they looked at me and

443
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Speaker 4: how they took how they responded to my injury as

444
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Speaker 4: if I wasn't there. Yeah, I said, whoa, I don't

445
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Speaker 4: want to feel this again. So you know how we

446
00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,680
Speaker 4: said we walk around in life and say healthless wealth.

447
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

448
00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,120
Speaker 4: If I take care of my health, that's the longevity

449
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Speaker 4: of you know, I should be able to live long,

450
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Speaker 4: same way and on sport. If I take care of

451
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Speaker 4: my health, I should be able to take care of

452
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Speaker 4: my pockets. I should be able to take care of

453
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Speaker 4: my spot because as long as I'm healthy, I can

454
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Speaker 4: go out there and be productive, you know what I'm saying.

455
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Speaker 4: And that's how I looked at it. So I sat

456
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Speaker 4: there and I was a spongement. I talked to Curtis Martin.

457
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Speaker 4: He talking about the Hall of Famer. I talked to

458
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Speaker 4: you know, Marvin Jones, all these guys, Aaron Glenn's.

459
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Speaker 3: I play with all these guys as rookies.

460
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Speaker 4: So I'm watching them bringing trainers, bringing massage, masus and

461
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Speaker 4: stuff like that, and just chiropractice. And by the time

462
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Speaker 4: I got here in my fifth year, I had it all.

463
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Speaker 4: I had it all right because I got a team

464
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Speaker 4: together to take care of my body.

465
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Speaker 3: And trust me, that's when I saw me.

466
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Speaker 4: Do like this, you know what I mean, Because for

467
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,600
Speaker 4: those first four years I was dealing with you name it, hamstring.

468
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Speaker 4: I mean, I just couldn't get right. And by the

469
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Speaker 4: time I got here, you just clicked for me. And say,

470
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Speaker 4: you know that last year to get here, I kind

471
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Speaker 4: of started, you know, toning in on a lot of

472
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Speaker 4: that stuff. But when I got here, thanks to Sean

473
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 4: Springs because he introduced me to his guy. When I

474
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Speaker 4: met him, it was it was all history.

475
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Speaker 7: Then it's got to be one of those things too,

476
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 7: that the game is always evolving and there's tape out

477
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 7: there on you too. And so if you had a

478
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Speaker 7: good year, that's great, but everybody knows what allows you

479
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 7: to have that success and the game is going to

480
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Speaker 7: continue to grow. So how are you evolving to stay

481
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Speaker 7: ahead of that curve?

482
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Speaker 3: Right?

483
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,120
Speaker 6: And like make.

484
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Speaker 7: Sure that you got some other tricks in your bag

485
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Speaker 7: or you know, you're not just falling back on what

486
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Speaker 7: you've already accomplished, that you're always working for more, i'd imagine.

487
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Speaker 2: So trash talk.

488
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Speaker 3: You actually two guys, I'm sure you.

489
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm sure you talk of trash.

490
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Speaker 3: We miss free right now? Missing free? What would I mean?

491
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 2: Missing what Fred's saying?

492
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Speaker 1: Like two thirds of the earth is covered by the

493
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Speaker 1: third is covered by Fred's movie.

494
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Speaker 5: We don't know.

495
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's only said that a billion time.

496
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Speaker 3: We don't know what I mean?

497
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Speaker 1: So you didn't but I don't know, Like I certainly

498
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Speaker 1: didn't play.

499
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Speaker 2: Did you ever talk trash?

500
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Speaker 1: Were we just you didn't seem like someone or every

501
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Speaker 1: now and then, would you drop something on somebody?

502
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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I mean it's almost yes, I would say, so,

503
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 5: I definitely not. You nailed it. I'm not a huge

504
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 5: trash talker. I mean probably maybe one of the most

505
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Speaker 5: non confrontational people, you know what I mean. But like,

506
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Speaker 5: I think there's different like we all like what I

507
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 5: miss most about not playing is competing and like me

508
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 5: versus that picture of me being in that big spot

509
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 5: in the ninth inning, Like you can't recreate that, And

510
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 5: I call it civilian life, you know, like we play

511
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 5: golf or you do. You know, you can try to

512
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 5: and gets the juice's phone a little bit and somethings,

513
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 5: but you know, there's nothing like being in like that.

514
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 5: I would say that like the trash talk I never

515
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 5: really talk trash, but I think performing and like kind

516
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Speaker 5: of doing little things and almost like doing things well

517
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 5: and then not like pimping a hom er, not like

518
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Speaker 5: I think that pissed people off more than anything else.

519
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 5: Just acting maybe not like why aren't you saying yeah, yeah,

520
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 5: so that was kind of my that's the that's pretty boring,

521
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Speaker 5: but that's what.

522
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Speaker 7: Was there anybody that really got under either of your

523
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 7: guys skin when you played all the time.

524
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Speaker 3: Come on, I'm a receiver, so you know the to me, the.

525
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Speaker 4: Best trash talkers are guys that play smooth position the

526
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Speaker 4: corn thembacks. I mean, I don't have to see no

527
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Speaker 4: one else. I mean you walk past linebackers every now

528
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Speaker 4: and then you might get it. You might get in London,

529
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Speaker 4: but I played with him. You might get a guy

530
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Speaker 4: to tell you don't come across the middle. No more.

531
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Speaker 2: Man would let them talking. He's back.

532
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 4: You hear all the time. Yeah, he all the time.

533
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,239
Speaker 4: Noney was telling somebody something. But it wasn't no, it

534
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 4: wasn't like Fred kind of smacked. It was like he

535
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Speaker 4: meant what he said.

536
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fred would say something, say something.

537
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 3: You basically laught. He getting you out your game.

538
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

539
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 4: Me myself, I'm the same way like you. Rarely gonna

540
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 4: hear me say anything. The most I've talked. If you

541
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 4: see my boss spinning when I start spending, that's my talk.

542
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 4: That's what I'm letting to talk. And guys, look, I've

543
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 4: heard guys tell me like bro, I said so much

544
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: to you in the game and you never said nothing back,

545
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 4: and then before you know it, it is eighty yard bomb

546
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Speaker 4: or seventy.

547
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Like that's how I talk.

548
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk with the place and the way you

549
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 4: get me to say something to you.

550
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Speaker 3: I asked you if you're tied yet, because.

551
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Speaker 4: I know that they still rapping, something like you ain't tired,

552
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 4: you ain't tired of talking yet. Yeah, And that's how

553
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Speaker 4: That's probably about as far as I go. And then

554
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Speaker 4: I get me wrong. I had a Sherman or Richard

555
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: Sherman was probably the worst out of all the guys

556
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 4: I faced. He was the worst, but I could say

557
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: he's the one that got to me and bothered me

558
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 4: so much because at the time he got me at

559
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 4: the right time, I wasn't myself. I felt like I

560
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 4: was just getting back off a broken hand.

561
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, were you banged up?

562
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 4: I was just getting back and I'm like, oh, man,

563
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 4: I don't really have me to really go out here

564
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 4: and shut them up.

565
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: So I'm talking back to him, you know what I mean.

566
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 4: And I'm like telling you now, you're getting into you,

567
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And he invited you and

568
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 4: you walked in the door, you know, and so but

569
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 4: I give him full credit, man, because most of those

570
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 4: guys like a Fred like Richard, you know, they back

571
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 4: it up. You know, those guys are the best of

572
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 4: the best. They're not just talking trash. They know what

573
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 4: they bring. You know, their game is on the same level.

574
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: Up their mouths.

575
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: At time.

576
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: We kid with Fred and tell him that he talked

577
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: better than he played. But we know we just pulling

578
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 4: his leg at times. But no, I hated it, honestly, man.

579
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 4: That's the way I shut guys up. I shut him

580
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: up by just making plays, make the play, spending ball.

581
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 4: I might giggle at him, especially by score. I giggle

582
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: at him and it's like, you know what I mean,

583
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: your job passed, and you give him that giggle or

584
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: give him that smirk.

585
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: They'll leave you alone, man, because they mama, They mom embarrassed.

586
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: That's what I'm telling me. You're gonna barrash your MoMA today.

587
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: She see the back of that jersey.

588
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 6: Man.

589
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: So I remember the funniest smack I've ever heard. This

590
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: was not this is a buddy of mine. He was

591
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: telling me when he was in high school and it

592
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: was a coach coming down on him, and he said

593
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: he was trying out for quarterback in high school.

594
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 2: And his coach goes, his name is Ben Cecil. He's

595
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: a funny guy. He goes yeah. I was trying out

596
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 2: for quarterback in high school. My coach goes cecil.

597
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: I got four guys trying out for quarterback right now,

598
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: and you're running an eighth.

599
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: That's what I knew. It's like, I'm not gonna.

600
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: Make Quarterback's gonna happen. It wasn't for him.

601
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Speaker 1: When you look at and for all of you guys,

602
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Speaker 1: I mean, whether it's covering sports, being a part of

603
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Speaker 1: the sports scene. When you look back at your careers,

604
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Speaker 1: what is your most favorite moment. I mean, I don't

605
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: speak for anyone here, but whether it's covering something and

606
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: be a party of someone, we thought this, this is

607
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: the moment I've.

608
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 3: Been waiting for.

609
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 5: Oh man, what you got?

610
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: You know?

611
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Speaker 7: I think for me as a kid that was never

612
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 7: athletic enough to, you know, do what you guys did professionally,

613
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 7: but always wanted to. The first year that I was

614
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 7: the national sideline reporter, twenty fourteen, you guys win the

615
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 7: division and I'm in the clubhouse. You guys are partying

616
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 7: your asses off. There's beer, champagne getting sprayed everywhere. And

617
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 7: I was in there too, and I was doing the interviews,

618
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 7: and you know, I didn't make it but you're still

619
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 7: in that same place that you wanted to be, so

620
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 7: that that felt like a really cool moment. And then

621
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 7: obviously the world serious is pretty special.

622
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Speaker 5: I think media with baseball, like SI learned, they travel

623
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 5: with us too, So I mean you you create bonds

624
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 5: with them and you have to respect each other. I mean,

625
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 5: you know, they have a job to do. A lot

626
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 5: of times we don't want to do stuff with them,

627
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 5: but so you create a relationships. So when we won,

628
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 5: I mean them being in there, I can imagine it's fun.

629
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 5: You know, like you said, you're not like on the team,

630
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 5: but you're part of the team, and it's you know,

631
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 5: baseball is so much different because we just play so

632
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 5: many more games in any other sport, so we spend

633
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 5: more time with each other than our families. Yeah, or

634
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 5: basically seven months out of the year. That is pretty

635
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 5: I mean I'm trying to think my I think for me,

636
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 5: it's more. I was twenty years old when I came up.

637
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 5: I think the first couple of years of your career,

638
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 5: you're just trying to to I guess, establish yourself. And

639
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 5: I mean it's got to be kind of the same

640
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 5: in football, Like it doesn't matter if you're a top

641
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 5: pick or whatever. I mean, you got to come in

642
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 5: and earn the respect of your teammates, of your peers.

643
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: And I think learning as a young person how to

644
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 5: handle yourself, how to you know, get your routine and

645
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: get your work ethic and then just how to treat

646
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 5: it as a job, but at the same time have

647
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 5: have fun, because I mean, it is your livelihood, like

648
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: he said, I mean health is wealth or best ability

649
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 5: is availability, and you know you don't you only got

650
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 5: one chance, and it's a small window, like you said.

651
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 5: And for me, it was kind of learning my routine,

652
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 5: how to go about things and what can make me

653
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 5: the most successful, and it took me a couple of

654
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 5: years to figure it out. But then you know, just

655
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 5: just respecting the game and respecting the opportunity, I think

656
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 5: is the best way to put it.

657
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 7: Was there one moment though, because you I mean eleven

658
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 7: walk off home runs in your career, you've you had

659
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Speaker 7: a World Series home or you like, you've you've had

660
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Speaker 7: some really.

661
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Speaker 5: Better I mean, you know, I always say world series.

662
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Speaker 5: I think you know, individual stuff is awesome, and you know,

663
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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you obviously celebrate those

664
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Speaker 5: and when you're hanging with your buddies and talking about stuff.

665
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 5: You talk about individual things that you've won, but nobody

666
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 5: comes up and asks you about like, hey, what was

667
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 5: that silver slugger? And this year they ask you, like,

668
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Speaker 5: what was it like to.

669
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Speaker 3: Win the World Serio?

670
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and as a player, I think we would all

671
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Speaker 5: give up all of our individual stuff to win world

672
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: championships every year. I mean, it's but it's just.

673
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Speaker 2: So hard, looks to.

674
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Speaker 3: The dagger.

675
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Speaker 5: But I also think fans don't know how hard it

676
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Speaker 5: is to win that ultimate probably, like you know, I

677
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 5: hear people they lose in the first round of the playoffs,

678
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 5: and if your team's making the playoffs every year, you

679
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: should be happy. And then I know that's hard to say,

680
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 5: but like just making the playoffs at any elite level

681
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 5: is hard, and then to actually run the table and

682
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Speaker 5: be the last team. I just don't think people understand

683
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Speaker 5: how hard it is to do that. So I guess

684
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Speaker 5: I mean world serious.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

686
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Speaker 4: Have a World Series or Super Bowl to talk about

687
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Speaker 4: any championship on the professional level, but I can honestly

688
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Speaker 4: say that one of the moments that stand out to

689
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Speaker 4: me is when I was a young Buck in the league.

690
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Speaker 3: Second year.

691
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Speaker 4: Uh, this year, I missed the first twelve games and

692
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 4: preseason from I think I had a meniscus tear. Instead

693
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Speaker 4: of doing what they do by carving it out and

694
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Speaker 4: you back in four weeks. You know, my doctor, I

695
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't have got a second opinion. Back home in Miami,

696
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Speaker 4: I just just got drafted, and you know, from University

697
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Speaker 4: of Miami. We had a great doctor down to doctor

698
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Speaker 4: u Reebe. I'm thinking I'm pronouncing this name right, but

699
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: he's my second opinion. They told me I can go

700
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Speaker 4: get it. And when I came back, I had already

701
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: had the surgery because he told me I would not

702
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: carve it out. I would save the majority of it,

703
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: because if you carved this out, you're not going to

704
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Speaker 4: be yourself. Then after four years he told me that,

705
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Speaker 4: And so when I got back, I was already banished

706
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Speaker 4: up and had my padma and.

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Speaker 3: They was pissed.

708
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Speaker 4: The Jets was because they just thought, hey, this is

709
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: our play. They thought I was gonna go over there,

710
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Speaker 4: just let them look at it, and I come back,

711
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Speaker 4: they gonna do the surgery.

712
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Speaker 3: Four weeks im out and by the season start, I'm.

713
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Speaker 4: Ready to go and having a great agent and having

714
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Speaker 4: you rebim my corner was big for me.

715
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Speaker 3: It was huge. So long story short, they was pissed.

716
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Speaker 4: And he had the veterans like so they say every

717
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Speaker 4: time you saw me walking in the hall my crutches.

718
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: We had a guy more Lewis. I'll never forget more Lowis.

719
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Speaker 4: He meant so much to my career because he was

720
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Speaker 4: he was. He was getting that to me like he

721
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: was joking with me. But at the same time, it didn't.

722
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Speaker 4: It didn't sit well with because I'm not a guy

723
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Speaker 4: that just this is my first time having to miss

724
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Speaker 4: this much of a season. I broke my John college

725
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Speaker 4: and missed one game. Told him to put a play

726
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Speaker 4: in and let's go. You see what I'm saying. So

727
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Speaker 4: I'm knocked the guy to sit out. But they taking

728
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Speaker 4: it as this guy just got paid. He fat and happy.

729
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 4: Now he don't want to play. So held I would

730
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Speaker 4: walk in the hall.

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Speaker 3: There you go. So they say, they say you fast,

732
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Speaker 3: They say he gonna change change our team. He ain't

733
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Speaker 3: do nothing yet like it bothered me.

734
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Speaker 2: But what was he doing on purpose?

735
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Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you. I didn't

736
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Speaker 3: know if he liked me or not.

737
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: Like this guy just don't like me, and I love

738
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Speaker 4: him alone because he's a linebacker.

739
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Speaker 3: Hey, I don't. I don't deal with those dudes.

740
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: And Marvin Jones being that we was family, he'd be

741
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: and he was the line Baker's like, don't worry about him, man,

742
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: he just he just he just getting after you. So

743
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 4: fast forward year two. Like I said, stuff just was.

744
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: I wasn't getting right.

745
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: I go in.

746
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: We played Monday night game and I break a long

747
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: punk return and everybody HP. But as I break this

748
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: punk return, I have a high anglish spring twist my

749
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Speaker 4: ankle and I'm talking about this.

750
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: I feel it in my knee.

751
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 6: And I can't that's a high.

752
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: I couldn't go back out there now.

753
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 4: And we lose the game because of the other punk

754
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: returner fumbled the ball and that all he had do

755
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Speaker 4: is catch it.

756
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Speaker 3: We win the game. He fumbled the ball, gave them

757
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Speaker 3: a good field.

758
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Speaker 6: You know, they blank me.

759
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: If Tann has just come out there and catch the punt,

760
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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is getting out of hand.

761
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Speaker 4: So a week or two later, we finished play New

762
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Speaker 4: England and everybody like you gonna play I'm like, bro

763
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Speaker 4: got the angle Spring. I don't last time, Hiner spring,

764
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Speaker 4: I had took five weeks. I don't know, you know,

765
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: and more Luis the guy told me say, man, look

766
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: us linebackers. Man, we give you a little something for that.

767
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: It's gonna it's gonna it's gonna make everything go dark,

768
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: but you'll be at the place. And at the time,

769
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 4: I'm trying to win these guys, I'm trying. I'm like, bro, whatever, man,

770
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Speaker 4: I want to play.

771
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not even right now, I know it.

772
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: It's a Hindu spring.

773
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: If I can't feel it and I can go out there,

774
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: I'm sure I can play. And they gave me it

775
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: was a Viking, and I don't know what it was, but.

776
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: I swear like I swear, I can hear something like that.

777
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: I can hear a needle drop in the NOSEBLEEDZ.

778
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: That's how focus. I was, like, I heard everything and

779
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: I didn't.

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00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: You took on every game.

781
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: It was just.

782
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Speaker 3: I wish it was that easy, but I was scared

783
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Speaker 3: of it.

784
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: I say, bro, I don't never want to be that

785
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: focused and not feel nothing ever in my life again.

786
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: But I played the game of my.

787
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: Life and and the first person can we won the game,

788
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: I scored a touchdown. I had like over two hundred

789
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: some yards punt return yards on the pack and they

790
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 4: was big in our division. And Moluis came to me

791
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: and say, oh, now I see what they say that.

792
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there like so that stowed out to

793
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: me more than anything in my career. Over the good games,

794
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: the playoff wins, you know, and I had some big

795
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: playoff wins with them, but it just stood out, man

796
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: that they have finally accepted me because they saw that

797
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to just be this guy that.

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Speaker 2: That was your mom where you play. Now I belong,

799
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Speaker 2: I belong.

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Speaker 3: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: All right, we wrap up. This is an an a

802
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Speaker 2: special love. Alanna, our producer here does a great job.

803
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Speaker 2: So top three athletes in DC history. You're like, come on, dude,

804
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: don't ask me this question.

805
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: You're asking me first. Yeah, I'm asking you, all right.

806
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with different. I'm gonna use the the

807
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: I guess you could say football, basketball, baseball. No, I'm

808
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: gonna go I'm gonna go hockey. I'm gonna let hockey

809
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: getting this case. I gotta say, ov you got your

810
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: OVI is one. I'm gonna put Ov up there as

811
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Speaker 4: one of the guys. I mean, I talk baseball issue, buddy,

812
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 4: I hate I'm not being biased, I'm missing.

813
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna put it out there.

814
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: And if I say football, I say Derek Green, you

815
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: gotta put the Green. I feel like those three right there.

816
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 3: You can't miss.

817
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 6: Thank Xam.

818
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I don't think you can have this

819
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 5: conversation without Ov. I mean, the greatest goal scorer of

820
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 5: all time and completely change one of the major sports

821
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: in a major market. I mean, kids are playing hockey

822
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 5: now in this area basically because of him. We'll go

823
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 5: wild card with the second one.

824
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: Swimmer, that's a good one.

825
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: Good one.

826
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 5: She's come by the field a couple of times and

827
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 5: just talked with her. I mean she's an awesome person,

828
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 5: but like just what she's done. I mean she's dominating.

829
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 5: And I read something the other day that she just

830
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 5: broke some other I mean.

831
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, at an age where she's not supposed to swim.

832
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 6: Retired by like.

833
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 5: Years, fourth Olympics or something crazy like that. Oh man, no,

834
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 5: last one. Oh god, this is tough. I don't know

835
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: if he's greatest of all time, but I remember going

836
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 5: when Gilbert arenas him and John.

837
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: Wall I was I was gonna I was gonna break

838
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: him up, but I had to put open the picture

839
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 4: and put basketball out.

840
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: Gilbert was like white hot for like it was three.

841
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 6: Years years.

842
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: So fun to watch. So obviously there wasn't a ton

843
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: of longevity. But you know you talk about like the

844
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: hottest ticket in town or like what people you know

845
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 5: NBA is if you can go like sit on the

846
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 5: floor and watch Gilbert play, That was like you go

847
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 5: do that? Yeah, he comes to mind.

848
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a good one.

849
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 7: I'll go Ovie, I'll go Darryl Green and sorry, Buddy,

850
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 7: I'll go Max Sures or every five days. Guy had

851
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 7: a chance to do something like historically special. So yeah,

852
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 7: I'm going that.

853
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: Walter Johnson going way way, way way back, like dude.

854
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 7: Hey, before we wrap Jenks, Yes, can I just thank

855
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 7: Santana as a kid who grew up in Silver Spring.

856
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 7: The game against the Cowboys two thousand and five, down

857
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 7: by two scores late, you guys hadn't put up a

858
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 7: point yet. Mark Burnell throws two bombs to you, bang

859
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 7: bang bang bang, two touchdowns. You guys win on the

860
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 7: road at Dallas. That made me very very happy. I

861
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 7: appreciate that.

862
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: Man. You know, those little people being thought of every

863
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: now and.

864
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: Wait, they love that everywhere we go, like they always

865
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: remember that was.

866
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: One of your moments.

867
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: If you know anything about me and is there, you're

868
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 4: gonna know that that's one step, no doubt.

869
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Speaker 1: Well, guys, Hey, congratulations on the new pod, the eleventh

870
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Speaker 1: ending podcast.

871
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be checking that out.

872
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: And thanks for coming by, Ryan Zimmerman, Dan Coco to

873
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: the best in this region and been great following you

874
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: on the field and you off the field for a

875
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: long time.

876
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Speaker 6: Thanks buddy.

877
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 5: Great, it's fun to be here and look forward to

878
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 5: watching you guys this year.

879
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely great talking to those guys. I mean, anytime you

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Speaker 1: can bring all of us sports fans in the DMV together,

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Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 4: I just didn't know how we were so youthful. Man,

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Speaker 4: all of us are on the same age, you know.

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Speaker 4: Felt good about myself game.

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Speaker 1: I started to say, we were saying that you last

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Speaker 1: played in twenty fourteen. Yes, I only bring that up

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Speaker 1: because I'm like out of friend of mine. Tell me

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Speaker 1: one time is that you always see people the way

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Speaker 1: you see them when you first meet them, you first

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Speaker 1: get you know.

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Speaker 2: So when I'm like, I'm like, danna play a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago? Yeah, time flies, my friend, it does.

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Speaker 1: This summer, Seageek has your tickets to the live, best

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Speaker 1: live concerts in the DMV at Northwest Stadium. Seageek makes

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Speaker 1: it easy to catch world conquering tours and high watch

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Speaker 1: performances from all of your favorite artists all summer long.

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Speaker 1: Sea Geek has the best seat your seat for an

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Speaker 1: unforgettable summer. From Rock Royalty to rap superstars R and

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Speaker 1: B to country find it all on Seek, the official

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Speaker 1: primary ticketing partner of Northwest Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Summer concert season officially starts with seek Geek.

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Speaker 1: So Fred is not here, and we were talking with

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Speaker 1: Dan and Ryan about going from you know, watching them,

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Speaker 1: covering those guys where they are.

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Speaker 2: Now, what's it like for you?

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Speaker 1: As much as we give Fred a hard time, I

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Speaker 1: mean playing with him, did you ever imagine that years

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Speaker 1: later you guys will be working together in the media.

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Speaker 3: Had no clue. I had no clue.

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Speaker 4: And I think one of the things I wanted to

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Speaker 4: ask them is, especially Ryan, does he have the same

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Speaker 4: excitement that I have just going to the games and

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Speaker 4: covering them. I feel like I'm out there and I

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Speaker 4: tell folks all the time, like I played, I was

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Speaker 4: so locked in as a player, so I never enjoyed

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Speaker 4: the things that happened before or after the game. It

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Speaker 4: was almost like go back home, rebootbute, and get ready

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Speaker 4: for next week.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm enjoying all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: I'm enjoying, you know, I'm having fun with the tailgating,

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Speaker 4: with just the different things than they do after the game.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I'm I get a kick out the

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Speaker 4: most now of covering the game is just being a

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Speaker 4: part of the whole atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: You have more of an appreciation now for what you

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Speaker 1: went through in your career when you look back now

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Speaker 1: now that you know the dustice, I know it's been

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but still at the same time, you

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Speaker 1: wisdom and age will tend to give you a little perspective.

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Speaker 4: I always said to myself, is that I rather enjoy

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Speaker 4: what I have to enjoy now or then then and

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Speaker 4: do all the other stuff later. So I'm glad that

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Speaker 4: I was locked in and focused, because who knows. You know,

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Speaker 4: if I wasn't, maybe I wouldn't had the long career.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I wouldn't have been able to be that guy

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Speaker 4: for my team. So I'm glad that I was locked in.

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Speaker 4: But now man, I'm living it up. I'm enjoying a

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Speaker 4: little bit of it.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you here, man, won't be along with

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Speaker 2: me here my friends.

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Speaker 1: Any wait, that's it for to get loud podcasts. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let us know what you think of the comments, Like

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Speaker 1: you have some questions, just.

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Speaker 2: Let us know and get to that.

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Speaker 1: That's the great Santana mo So, Michael Jenkins, We'll see next.

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