WEBVTT - “I REGRET JOINING THE ARMY”

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<v Speaker 1>Paul from Mike Hello, Hello, what's up? Man? Hey? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this Lyle sure is? Who is this?

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<v Speaker 1>My name's Mike, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, what's going on? Hit me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? You know? Just living man? How what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with you?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, I don't know. I'm all over the place. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I hate is that this is as not your fault.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, there is something to do with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But have there been in a situation where you feel

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<v Speaker 2>insane and you're in like a normal human being situation

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<v Speaker 2>and someone asks how you're doing, and you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to say, I'm I'm in I feel insane, and.

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<v Speaker 3>So you say, happen to me all the time?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what do you do? What? What normal human

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<v Speaker 2>being situations are you normally in?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess, like normal human situation. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a school team. I interact with like thirteen to

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen year olds all the time, and they just say

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<v Speaker 3>the most ridiculous stuff, And half the time it's like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of funny, and I want to react like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>that was funny, But half the time it's not funny,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like why on earth did that just come

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<v Speaker 3>out of your mouth? But you can't say that. Most

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<v Speaker 3>of the time, you can't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's see, that's cause you can't, like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>trauma dump on the thirteen year old. Like if a

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen year old has asked how you doing, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>show any sign of like, I'm kind of going insane

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<v Speaker 2>right now. You really, you really can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to be like the rock in the room

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to be the rock in the room

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. But also I feel like something about being

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<v Speaker 2>a rat something, you know what. It is interesting. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like in that position, right, I feel like you,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're having an insane day, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you naturally become the rock in the room, even if

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<v Speaker 2>you're having anything right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like grounding. But then that process is like

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<v Speaker 3>super wearing, I think really so like sometimes like I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get out of work and I'll come home, I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>talking like my family and I'm just like I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's like normal human stuff where I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't function right now, and you're expecting me to

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<v Speaker 3>function right now and it's not working the way they want.

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<v Speaker 1>It to you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but but being being like having to teach a

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<v Speaker 2>classroom of kids, I feel like something that does like

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<v Speaker 2>that that must like just do something to your system

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<v Speaker 2>where you're like naturally, because that happens to me too,

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<v Speaker 2>where like certain situations just kind of demand me to

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<v Speaker 2>be a normal human being. And it's not like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not putting it. It feels like I'm not having to

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<v Speaker 2>put an effort to it because my brain and my

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<v Speaker 2>body are just like naturally adapting to the necessity of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Going through the most like you're on like autopilot or something.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit, yeah, a little bit, mm hmmm. What

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of shit are the kids saying these days?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it's so much just like grain rot garbage that

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<v Speaker 3>it's like hard to be around it. Sometimes, like ask

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<v Speaker 3>like a serious I teach English, so they talk a

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<v Speaker 3>lot about like literature, and uh, I'll ask like a

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<v Speaker 3>serious question, like a deep question, you know, and I'm like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is gonna be so good. We're gonna have like

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<v Speaker 3>a great conversation. And it killed this razor hand and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, yeah, what do you think, like six seven?

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<v Speaker 2>We are they still doing? Six seven?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Dude?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the I don't even know if it's I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's ironic at this point, but it's become it's

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<v Speaker 3>gone from like a real meme to like an ironic meme.

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<v Speaker 3>It hasn't run its course.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would have thought it ran its course by now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so stupid, Like I don't know, there was a

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<v Speaker 3>period where everyone was like that's so last year, but

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<v Speaker 3>still it's still like the most prominent one.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, like when you're about to when you're like, uh, okay, everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>your homework tonight is to read chapter six, are you

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<v Speaker 2>like fuck they're going to say it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, of course absolutely, the big what page are

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<v Speaker 3>we supposed to be on? Even if it's like i'd

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<v Speaker 3>be like fifty six the fifty six seven, Like, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no escaping it. There's no escaping at all. I was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about coworker that math teachers in the same boat,

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<v Speaker 3>like obviously that comes up all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I was like, I don't envy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't envy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, being the math teacher, being the math teacher

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<v Speaker 2>in the six seven era, that's crazy. Yeah, man, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so well, shit, would you want to talk about today, man,

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<v Speaker 2>if anything, I actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like thinking about that when I saw that you

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<v Speaker 3>were recording and taking calls, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. It kind of relates back to what we

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<v Speaker 3>were just talking about out because I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying really hard to be a human and do a

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<v Speaker 3>good job at it, but I feel like I'm getting

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<v Speaker 3>caught sometimes in between, like the balance of trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do day to day like normal shit, but also wanting

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<v Speaker 3>to do like fun stuff Like my job opens up

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of time, especially in like the summer, so

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<v Speaker 3>teaching the United States obviously with often the summertime, I

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<v Speaker 3>like to travel a lot. But I also feel like

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm kind of coming into this part of my

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<v Speaker 3>life where I'm like I kind of have to save money,

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<v Speaker 3>and traveling can be pretty expensive even if you're frugal.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, I don't know, but that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to talk about, is like kind of coming into that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I turned twenty seven yesterday and like looking at them, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the kids love to call me unk. They're like, you're

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<v Speaker 3>old as fuck, dude. I'm like, yeah, I don't feel old,

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<v Speaker 3>but like also I do feel old.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do know what I mean, And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty eight, and uh do I feel No, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really feel. I mean we're still in our twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you ever meet like a thirty something year old,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're Yeah, most.

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<v Speaker 3>Of my coworkers are a lot older than me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I fee always like funny too, because like most of

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<v Speaker 3>them are like settled, they have kids, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have any kids or anything yet, So I always think

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I listen to your podcast all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>like always like, yeah, that's true when you're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you have kids, and then you're like changes like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not there yet, but I'm like at the cusp of it,

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, interesting. No, I don't actually think thirty is that old.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't think any of like every age

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<v Speaker 2>you think. I mean I have. I was reading a

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<v Speaker 2>journal of mine the other day where I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I turned twenty three today, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel old. So you can. I mean, you can feel

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<v Speaker 2>old at any age, and uh yeah, we are. We

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<v Speaker 2>are the problem is that we are getting to a point.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we're still chilling for like a pretty long while,

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<v Speaker 2>But we are getting to a point where you have

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<v Speaker 2>to make certain major like you kind of you do

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<v Speaker 2>at some point have to declare a major in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of like life like that analogy. Well it's it freaks

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<v Speaker 2>me out a little bit because I'm like, yeah, at

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<v Speaker 2>some point you do have to like decide certain things

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<v Speaker 2>like are you going to have kids? Are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to be with this person or are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>find somebody else? Are you going to you know, try

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<v Speaker 2>to do this career or try to do that career.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can, look, you can change it up. You

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<v Speaker 2>can like you know, you can start doing something or

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<v Speaker 2>start to I mean, my parents were in a crappy

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<v Speaker 2>marriage for eleven years and then they broke up and

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<v Speaker 2>got remarried in their late forties to and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they had you know, twenty something years of like great

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<v Speaker 2>time with their current people. And so life can take

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<v Speaker 2>on a variety of stuff. But I do, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a little wary of like, oh, you have

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<v Speaker 2>time to do this, that and the other thing, because

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<v Speaker 2>I always feel like I don't have time to do shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like I speed ran a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of my life in a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of get that yeah, I definitely get that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did that because I never felt like there

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<v Speaker 2>was enough, like there's only now that's all. That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all that Like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Had a lot too, and I feel like that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of what I was what I was thinking about when

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying like I'm at this like struggle with

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<v Speaker 3>a balance type point where it's like I try to

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<v Speaker 3>be very very now oriented, but I'm also at this

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<v Speaker 3>like like we should say, like this cusp and I

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<v Speaker 3>guess that could occur at any given time in your life,

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<v Speaker 3>but like the cusp of like, Okay, what is next?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I do have to plan for a future a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, like you can't at least I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't just make like stupid decisions. But then it's

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<v Speaker 3>like sometimes stupid decisions are fun, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I agree, and I listen, I've I've made stupid

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<v Speaker 2>decisions that are very fun, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no regrets for any I mean, I there

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<v Speaker 2>are things in my life that I wish I there

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<v Speaker 2>are things in my life that I I wish there

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<v Speaker 2>was a different word that I could use than regret,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't like regret.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind to myself in the sense that like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>aware that, like I'm aware of my like human finititudes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that my human finititudes are the you know, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of drive most of my actions and I and I

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<v Speaker 2>like looking at that, and I I I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you analyze the past so that you don't repeat mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>I've made so many. I've made tons of mistakes, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any like but like I got to

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of great off and like I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for my life. Like if you make if you

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<v Speaker 2>make me really look at it, and if you make

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<v Speaker 2>me look at it when I'm in the throes of

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<v Speaker 2>like my anxiety or depression, then I'll look at it

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<v Speaker 2>like fuck, I you know, did this say? I think?

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<v Speaker 2>But if you make me look at it when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>feeling good, I'll be like, yeah, I got to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this was this was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get that. I totally get that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I feel like I get that thought

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<v Speaker 3>often of like is you know, do do you have regrets?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I feel like I'm in that same boat

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<v Speaker 3>what you were talking about of like I don't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I have regrets. There's definitely things where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how would that have turned out, or like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what would have played out differently is like

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<v Speaker 3>learn from the mistakes or you know, try and try

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<v Speaker 3>not to put yourself in the positions that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be into the future. But like that idea

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<v Speaker 3>of your current mood playing a big factor into that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I've been thinking a lot. My my two siblings

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<v Speaker 3>moved pretty far away, like across the country and constantly

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm very close with them. We talk pretty much,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say at least two plus times a week

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<v Speaker 3>on the phone and stuff. And they're always like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>come out. My one brother lives out in Texas, my

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<v Speaker 3>my brother and my sister lives in Tennessee. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to come out, Like you know, don't don't

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<v Speaker 3>you think you could do something different and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't know, Like I like what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing right now a lot, but then like I also

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<v Speaker 3>I've traveled around the country a number of times. I

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<v Speaker 3>love road tripping and camping and stuff. I'm like, I've

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<v Speaker 3>met so many cool people, Like it would be there

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<v Speaker 3>is that like call to wouldn't it be amazing to

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<v Speaker 3>just like pick up, start somewhere fresh, meet a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of new people, do something new and interesting and cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But then it's like then that other voice comes in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like nah, like no, don't do that, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that would be a lot of work, first of all.

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<v Speaker 3>Second of all, be like pretty scary, like just starting over,

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<v Speaker 3>especially being like rather set up for something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do know what you mean. It is scary

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<v Speaker 2>to start over when you're rather set up for something.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what if what would you think? What have

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<v Speaker 2>you thought about starting over about?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a pretty long period of time when I

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<v Speaker 3>first started my job. I've been I've been working for

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<v Speaker 3>not the same exact school, but the same area for

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<v Speaker 3>four years now, and like when I first started here,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like I really want to do this. It's

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<v Speaker 3>also like a big commitment, like I'm from New York

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<v Speaker 3>and like the teaching system is really good. It's also

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<v Speaker 3>like a pretty big commitment if you start buying into

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<v Speaker 3>like the retirement systems, like you know you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>there for thirty years. And I constantly have that thought

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm like, damn, thirty years of my life. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a long I mean, that's like that could be that

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<v Speaker 3>could be almost that could be all my life, you

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<v Speaker 3>know who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well what else you want to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? So that's like I don't know, Like I've talked.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny. My sister and I have had this conversation

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<v Speaker 3>because she also teaches, but she's like kind of disillusioned

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<v Speaker 3>with this things right now, and so she's like intent,

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, you could come down here, we should open

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<v Speaker 3>a gym together, and like it's a lure ring.

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<v Speaker 1>I like going to the gym.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty active, but it's also something I have a

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<v Speaker 3>zero experience in. So it's like kind of jokey between us.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think like part of her really wants to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, and part of me is like that'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Be kind of cool, you know, why not? What's stopping me?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a dumb person. I could do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. But I don't think is that something you'd be

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<v Speaker 2>interested in doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like this is like the idea of like

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of things I think would be interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that would have a lot of headaches attached

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<v Speaker 3>to it, so like, ultimately, I don't think that's something

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<v Speaker 3>I would do completely, but like I don't know. I like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's very business oriented too. I like humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I teach English, I like writing. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>big into music, and like, I don't know, I've thought

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<v Speaker 3>about that too, Like I've done music in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>and like I've made some and put it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like that'd be cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But then also like that's I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 3>would like that, Like I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I love what I do. That's the thing is, like

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<v Speaker 3>I have this conundrum where I'm like, would something else

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<v Speaker 3>really be better? Kind of like when you have a

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<v Speaker 3>good hand, do you want to, you know, try and

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<v Speaker 3>trade it in for something even better?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, I actually know exactly what you mean about, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the grass is kind of always greener on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, dude, I don't know. It's funny. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna pretend like I don't have answers to any this

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<v Speaker 2>shit because I'm like also dealing with it right now

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, uh, I mean, I'm pretty happy with

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<v Speaker 2>everything I've gotten to do with in my life. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I, I, you know, I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>existential dread about like oh uh, you know, am I

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<v Speaker 2>like like shit like picking the right like romantic partner,

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<v Speaker 2>picking the right thing to do with your life and

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<v Speaker 2>most of you, and a lot of like like career wise,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I've been kind of like career rush me.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been kind of like, all right, let me do everything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like I make these documentary I make these documentaries,

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<v Speaker 2>I do this podcast, I do my live shows.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to perform, right, come to your live show

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<v Speaker 3>in Brooklyn. I'm super echoing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool man, awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome cool. Yeah, fucking

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<v Speaker 2>shout up Bellhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm and I'm like, oh fuck, should I like

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<v Speaker 2>stop doing this podcast so I can just focus on

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<v Speaker 2>making those documentaries?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Should I like start like focusing harder on that or

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<v Speaker 2>can I like, can I, like, you know, manage doing

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<v Speaker 2>everything because it all feeds into itself, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>have dreams of like I you know, I used to

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<v Speaker 2>dream about like opening a venue, and then part of

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<v Speaker 2>me is like, well, you know, I'm only twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's like a project, you know, in twelve years

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<v Speaker 2>from now, when I have, you know, more money or

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<v Speaker 2>like right I have career wise, I'm kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>well fuck it, let me just fucking like do everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's actually for me. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>like the personal stuff that uh is weighs on me.

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<v Speaker 2>This stuff where like it's like how do you find

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<v Speaker 2>how do you pick the right partner? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that, like you know, when's the right age

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<v Speaker 2>to have kids? What you know? Like one person, dude, I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Been getting that like crazy incantly, not necessarily the kids

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<v Speaker 3>thing per se, but like I'm the oldest of my siblings,

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<v Speaker 3>and both of my siblings in the past six months

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<v Speaker 3>have gotten engaged and are like getting ready to go

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<v Speaker 3>and like take this next step in their life. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know, like I said, like I like

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing. I'm very content honestly, but like I

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<v Speaker 3>look at that and I'm like, damn, am I like

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<v Speaker 3>am I behind? And like I get that question. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like no, no, no, no, Like you said, like I

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of time. I'm like, at twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not that old, but then I feel old and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, dang, and then they're doing it younger. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>am I what's the right thing to do?

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<v Speaker 1>And is it a rat thing to do? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there is, but I don't know. This is a question.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the conversation that I've been having, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I know exactly what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I have all the same crazy I have all the

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<v Speaker 2>same insane anxieties. I wish I wish I didn't. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it gives me a ton of anxiety. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>gives a lot of people a ton of anxiety. That's what.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>What's funny about America, dude, is we just have like

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<v Speaker 2>fucking problems of abundance. It's so funny because like if

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<v Speaker 2>we were living if we were living in like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say, I don't even like eight early nineteen hundred's

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<v Speaker 2>India or whatever, like we would just be like arrange

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<v Speaker 2>married when we were like you know, like fucking like eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and then like that would yeah, and then we were

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<v Speaker 2>just like have to make it work different. The problems

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<v Speaker 2>that would be extraordinary. I mean there would be you know, resentments,

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<v Speaker 2>and there'd be a whole other problems set right, But

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<v Speaker 2>it's like we wouldn't we have all this Like uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I feel like in America we have

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<v Speaker 2>we just have all these like problem of like abundance

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<v Speaker 2>that cause us anxiety. You know, yeah, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the right fucking answer is, Dude, I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I don't either, honestly. That's like I get into

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<v Speaker 3>that sometimes too with like students, like you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>ones I'm close with might ask similar questions, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>especially kids that get super anxious about stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd be like, oh, like, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, it just feels like I shouldn't even be feeling

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<v Speaker 3>these things because like, you know, realistically, my problems aren't

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<v Speaker 3>that big. It's even compared to like other people here.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just like yeah, like but doesn't mean your

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<v Speaker 3>problems don't exist, Like I don't know. It's again, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like it's that question of balance that I that I

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<v Speaker 3>keep bringing up. It's like, you know, there's there's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>some degree of like you know, it's real because it's

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<v Speaker 3>right in front of you and like the hypotheticals are

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<v Speaker 3>are huge, But then I don't know, you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to get lost in like that infinite possibility type thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you don't. I mean, I dude, shit, there's something

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say just now. Oh yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>like a friend about this today, Like you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a dude. Another thing is like like as

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<v Speaker 2>you get older, uh, you have all these people who

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of look up to, who you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>have like shit figured out right, Like i mean starting

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<v Speaker 2>their parents start with their parents, right, yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get old and you get older and you realize

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<v Speaker 2>that your parents don't know what the fuck they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about or what they're doing for real. And then and

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<v Speaker 2>then and then I have like there's like there's like

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<v Speaker 2>people that I really like looked up to when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid, and I and I still, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have respect for them and their work, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the same way that I have respect for my

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<v Speaker 2>parents and stuff. Like I've met, you know, like through

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<v Speaker 2>doing my work, I've met a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 2>I was like a fan of when I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in my like teens and early twenties, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, this is just some fucking guy. Like

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<v Speaker 2>this is just like some fucking guy. And then also

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm a guy who people are a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>and I look at me and I'm like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>some fucking douchebag. I don't know what the fuck's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh god, nobody does nobody you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, literally, I'm sure you actually no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you do. Because you're a teacher, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be the right this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even king like verbade him this conversation. I

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<v Speaker 3>teach a philosophy class as like an elective, which is

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<v Speaker 3>really fun, and like most of that this is like

0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.399
<v Speaker 3>older kids to teach at a small school, so I

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<v Speaker 3>teach high schoolers.

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<v Speaker 1>We had his.

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<v Speaker 3>Conversation the other day, and it's funny because like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of these kids are getting ready to graduate high

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<v Speaker 3>school and like they're going to graduations and prom and

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<v Speaker 3>all these things. They're talking about going to college, and

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<v Speaker 3>then something came up where they were like, oh, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>this is my last name. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if it was going in a podcast or anything,

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<v Speaker 3>but appreciate that it wasn't out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon, let's cut out his let's cut out his last name.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, you know, we're going to college, Like should

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<v Speaker 3>we have a college experience, and I'm like, uh, first

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<v Speaker 3>of all, like I don't think it's appropriate to be

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this, but like, like I went to college obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>and like I engaged in a college experience to some degree,

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<v Speaker 3>but like I also learned my decisions about that. I

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<v Speaker 3>gave him all this advice.

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<v Speaker 2>About Well, another thing is, well, are you equating a

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<v Speaker 2>college experience because the way you're talking about are you

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<v Speaker 2>equating a college experience with like what getting like drunken shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They were asking about like parties and like you know

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<v Speaker 3>what it's what it's like to go and like they

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<v Speaker 3>were asked about like fraternities and stuff like that. I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't part of a fraternity or anything, but like obviously

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<v Speaker 3>I experienced some of that being around the demographic and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>But eventually I ended up telling I'm like, guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like what I what I discovered is you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't really a fan of that environment. I would get

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<v Speaker 3>super anxious. I thought it was kind of like a

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<v Speaker 3>waste of my own time. Like I had more fun

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<v Speaker 3>doing stupid things with my friends, like we weren't. I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't a person that would do stuff like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I gave him all this advice and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I started looking into things that I thought

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<v Speaker 3>were like more in line with like what I liked

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<v Speaker 3>and whatever. And a lot of the kids, like a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of them were like, man, like you know, they're kind.

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<v Speaker 1>They they they did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a pretty big norm in America is like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, go to college at the college experience, have freedom,

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<v Speaker 3>do whatever you want, like you know, And I was

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of telling them not to and like not

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<v Speaker 3>even because you know, I'm trying to be a professional

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<v Speaker 3>at that point, Like I was just like giving them

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<v Speaker 3>my honest opinion. And I was like, guys, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just some dude, Like I don't know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what.

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<v Speaker 2>Worked for me, like exactly, yeah, I don't feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like an adult most of the time, and you guys

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<v Speaker 3>are looking up to me like I've got all the answers,

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, no exactly, no exact you you feel the same

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<v Speaker 2>exact thing, because it's like you're who all these kids

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 2>look up to as like uh like a like you're

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<v Speaker 2>like you're a real adult. You're the rock in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, dude level.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like I've got no clue what's going.

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<v Speaker 2>On, Like, yeah, dude, a lot of the time, Yeah dude,

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<v Speaker 2>we all have no idea what's going on? And fuck

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 2>was I gonna say? But but what you just said

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<v Speaker 2>right like I did. What works for me is that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, right is there's no like objective like manual

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<v Speaker 2>for everything, but there is the cool The thing is

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 2>is like this thing where you kind of can look

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<v Speaker 2>at what people are doing and kind of deride from

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:30.880
<v Speaker 2>that something. It's like, Okay, if all of the people

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<v Speaker 2>I looked up to, like my parents, you know people

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know whose work I admire, teachers, uh uh,

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>the the you know whatever is that whoever and whatever

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<v Speaker 2>is fucking out there? Right if all of that stuff

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 2>is like you know, I don't want to say an

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 2>illusion is too bad, Like I don't want to be

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 2>doomor about it. But I think the answer is you

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 2>look at all that stuff and you like kind of

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 2>take it in as like an aggregate of like these

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 2>are all these people's learned experience. These are still even

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 2>even if even like you know, my teacher, this fucking

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 2>podcast guy, you know, my parents, like even if like

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 2>they're at the end of the day they're they're just

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<v Speaker 2>some fucking dude or whatever, they still have lived experience

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<v Speaker 2>and they still have like you can still glean things

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 2>for Like that's what we're That's why humanity is. We're

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 2>all just like gleaning things from each other's learned experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was talking to my.

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<v Speaker 3>Brother about this the other days. You're talking about the

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:38.920
<v Speaker 3>like you know, he's, like I said, he's younger than me.

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 3>He just got engaged recently. You're talking about like next

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 3>stats and whatever. And we talked about the idea of

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 3>like the phrase coming into your own and like I

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 3>had never thought about it in these words up until

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 3>that conversation, but I was like, dude, you know that

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 3>literally is exactly what you're doing as you get to

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 3>be an adult. And like you, I think, like part

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 3>of it is like you like your parents to get

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<v Speaker 3>like your your role models, your teachers, you're you know whoever,

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.159
<v Speaker 3>and like you look at them like they're the model.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you realize that, like like you said, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're they're flawed, they're confused, they're not perfect.

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 3>So you realize that like you have no model, you

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of are the.

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<v Speaker 1>Model, right, yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so I was like, you know that was

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 3>that was like whoa, I was just gonna say something

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 3>I forgot was gonna set off my train of thought.

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 3>But like that idea was pretty like oh shit, you know,

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 3>there's no such thing as like a right choice as

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 3>long as you're trying your best, I was gonna say.

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Being being the English nerds that I am, I was like, yo,

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 3>it's like to kill a mocking bird, you know, do

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<v Speaker 3>the best with what you have, with what sense you have.

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you can get more sense, like more experience,

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 3>and talk to as many people as possible and read

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.959
<v Speaker 3>as much as possible, Like then you have more of

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 3>that like the aggregate you're talking about to kind of

0:25:58.760 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 3>go off of.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name again, man or your fake name?

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<v Speaker 1>Mike? Mike?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Mike, I'm glad we had this conversation. I wish

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 2>I still lived in a bubble. I wish I wish.

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Actually I don't.

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I try.

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to have the I'm trying to have the

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<v Speaker 2>strength to deal with the loss of groundedness that I

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 2>UH have been experiencing. But you know what I think

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 2>we'll find it, Mike. I think we will find I

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 2>think we will. I think we will. I think we

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 2>will find it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like become comfortable, become comfortable with like the floating, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, I think I think what you said before

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 3>is like that that problem of like having too much,

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 3>that's not a bad problem to have. I don't think

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of that bit like the balance and like,

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, get comfortable with like being able to do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot and be happy that that's that's kind of

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 3>like not a bad problem to be in.

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:02.959
<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly, it's, uh, it's not a bad problem. You

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 2>get to choose your own adventure and that's a little

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 2>scary but also but also nice, pretty amazing, amazing, Mica.

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Is anything I was gonna say with people of the

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<v Speaker 2>computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, you asked us at the end of every call,

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 3>and I've never thought about what I would say. You

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 3>can say, No, I don't know, be happy, be happy

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 3>and choose your own adventures.

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<v Speaker 1>I like its.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, man, I'll see around the universe.

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Gek, bless you.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm super excited see you in Brooklyn, supery.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'll see you then, Man, take.

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Care, all right, have a great night. See you, GEK.

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Mike. Hello, Hi, Hello, what's up. What's your name?

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm uh you call me Bob? Is this the Gecko man?

0:27:56.000 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 2>This is the Gecko Man. Bob. What's going on? How

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>you doing?

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, man, I'm doing. It's a day.

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's a day on the earth queer people. What

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>do you think, Bob? Should we should we do a show?

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Should we talk? Should we see what we can find

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 2>out about each other in our in a one on

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>one conversation?

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll see why not. Beautiful day might as well?

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, beautiful day to sit inside and podcast. I'm interested

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>in you, Bob, not like that. I'm interested in your brain.

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 2>I want to know what's going on in it, and

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>we're going to get to the bottom of you for

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the next however long I decide to or you decide to.

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 2>You have equal You have as much. The callers don't

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>really realize this, but they have equal amount of power

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 2>to hang up on me as I do on them.

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>So both of us are going to be on this

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>phone call for exactly as long as each other wants to.

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>All right, then you sound excited, you sound thrilled.

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's a little racing right now. I

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really expecting you to call. I mean, like, I know,

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I know, I like text it and ship, but like

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, you text, but you don't ever expect to

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>call back.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>You said, you said you texted me two years ago.

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:26.479
<v Speaker 2>Well you text me a whole bunch of stuff. Oh

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>my god, you said. Okay, first of all, you said,

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to join the military and I'm scared. And

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>then it's and then and then recently you're texted me

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I still haven't figured out why I joined the military.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 2>So you were about to join the military and now

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you're in it, and you were scared. Okay, so there's

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot. There's a lot going on. And then you

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>also said for the past you spent two years ago,

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 2>you said, for the past two years, I've been living

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 2>a lie. Yeah, so that was that was four years ago. Okay,

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>So we have a lot. Do you want to talk

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>about any of this? Do you want to have this conversation?

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to force you in a conversation you don't.

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Want to have Oh yeah, yeah kind of, because I mean,

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's that's why I texted.

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm ready I'm present, my phone is off. I

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I turned my laptop screen, the brightness all the way down.

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm staring at nothing. I'm staring at the microphone. I'm trying,

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and I get distracted. Let's I'm locked in on you, Bob.

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's hit it. Okay, let's begin here. Let's start. Let's

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 2>start two years ago. Let's start two years ago.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>With the with the I'm living a liar. I don't

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>know why.

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. Tell me, tell me. Let's start with that.

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Tell me why I four years ago, you were living

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 2>a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>So pretty much that would have been after I got

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>out of high school. I uh. I moved to Montana

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and did like a like a summer like work program

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>thing over there for a ski resort, trying to just

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>like you know, figure out why and ship. Then I

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>moved back to a college town because I told my

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.719
<v Speaker 1>parents that I was gonna start going to school. I like, hooray,

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>good job, honey, and so they they like offered to

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>pay for school and my living and and food and

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>all of that. But I mean, like the whole time,

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>like I was just not going to school. I was

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of just getting like super drunk, super high and

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>just fucked up, like all day, every day, and I

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>felt bad because you know, they were paying for all

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of it, and I was a lot to them for

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the whole two years that I was doing that. M

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and then uh, at the end of that twoish years,

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>it kind of felt like that I couldn't keep the

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>jig out anymore. So I'm like, fuck it. I could

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>always just join the military and and have like a

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>not I don't. I don't want to say like an

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>honorable way out, because like it's not honorable at all,

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>but I could have an easier way out instead of

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>having to, you know, talk to my parents about how

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I've just been spending their money to get drunken high

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>all day for two years. Hmm. Okay.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>And so then you were like, okay, so your parents

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>were sending you to school and you weren't really going.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 2>But then I don't I'm trying to understand how the

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>how to joining the military. Joining the military was like

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 2>your your thing of like, oh, school is not working out, No,

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I actually want to join the military, yeah, instead of

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>being working out because of getting drunk all the time.

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just didn't want to have that conversation with

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>my parents, so I'm like, all right, I can just

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>do this, and they can see that it's like, oh,

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, he this isn't working out for him the soul.

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but yeah, I guess I just saw

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>that as more of a way out than having that

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>talk with my parents.

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that was two years ago. Yes, and you were

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 2>afraid to join the military at the time. Why were

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>you afraid?

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, shit, dude, it's the military, Like, you don't

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know if I'm guessing, did you. Were

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you ever in the military? No?

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Never in the military.

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I don't know. I was kind of afraid

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>just because I didn't know what it would be like.

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>And uh, when I was signing up for it, the

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>whole time, I was thinking, damn, am I like actually

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna get through this. And then I got on the

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>bus to go to the airport and I got on

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>the plane and I'm like, shit, I'm really doing this.

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And when I got then when I got off the plane,

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>they they start yelling at you, like in the airport

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>to get on these buses. And then uh, we rolled

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>up to the front gate of the basic training and

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I saw the flashing red and blue lights and the ship.

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm really doing this and uh yeah, I mean now

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm now, I'm here, I'm at my first base. Yeah.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 2>And how has the past two years been?

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's I don't I don't want to say

0:34:55.880 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>it's bad because it hasn't. But it's just not what

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I, I guess, envisioned my life to be like right now.

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>How old are you?

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty one.

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Twenty one? Okay, how did you envision your life to be?

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I guess just not in. I guess traveling.

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I've always moved to do that. Mm hmm. Maybe you

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>work at a bakery.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 2>M Are you in one of those crazy military contracts?

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Wait?

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 2>You man like I know some people like who are

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 2>in like six six year long military contracts.

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>No, so there are four and six year or like

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the standard contracts. But I signed a four year so

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll be getting I'll be getting out in twenty twenty nine,

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 1>at the start of twenty twenty nine.

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So all right, so you'll be twenty four by

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the time you're out of the military.

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Are you making any money? Are you saving anything?

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to but I mean, shit, do you fucking

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>talk I've been big back and really going to Taco Bell.

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Have you tried their new like dessert and panada things

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy to me. That's crazy to me that you

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 2>can be in.

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Like that.

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>The reason you can't save money is because of Taco Bell,

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>because it's not like Taco Bell is the whole point

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 2>of dude. I'm sorry, this is just this is such

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 2>a separate rant from what we're talking about. But it's

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 2>so stupid that fast food is like expensive now, like

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't supposed to be. The whole point is that

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 2>it was like shitty and cheap.

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I went to McDonald's the other day and the

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>McChicken is like two or three dollars. That's I remember.

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I remember when it was a dollar. Life was good,

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>life was peace, life, life was good.

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Are you still drinking?

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Uh No? Not not every night? Like uh like I

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>was when I got here a couple of months ago.

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Like when I first got to the base that I'm

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>at now, I was drinking probably a seven fifty of

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>whiskey like every two or three days.

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe what's a seven fifty.

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh three quarters of a leader?

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh, you're drinking that every day?

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Not not. I would. I would finish a bottle of

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that every like two or three days.

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you were drinking. You were't drinking the whole

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 2>bottle every day. You were drinking the whole bottle every day.

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 2>You were drinking every day.

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was drinking a considerable amount. I was drinking

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>enough to know that it wasn't and healthy.

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 2>How often drinking now?

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Really only on like special occasions like I'll be going

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to I'll be going out of town next week and

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 1>for a tournament, so I'll probably drink then. But other

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>than that, like, I don't really I don't really drink

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>like that anymore, just because A it's expensive and B

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not really healthy in it. I don't know. It

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>makes me sad.

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Cool, Yeah, dude, I mean a genuine congrats on that.

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to kick a habit, man, It's hard to

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.399
<v Speaker 2>kick a habit. Yeah, you can get you can lose

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:38.959
<v Speaker 2>so much fucking time to that shit.

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean I wasn't even really doing anything I

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>was drinking either. I was literally just sitting in my

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>room alone, watching fucking TV and playing Fortnite.

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 2>And what's life like for you on base these days?

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 2>What's like a day to day life.

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And I kind of have the same the same routine,

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 1>wake up, go to the gym, get lunch, and then

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>go to work after So I work afternoon till like

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the midnight, so I sort of have my mornings to myself. Cool,

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.919
<v Speaker 1>but like it's it's hard because all my friends are

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, eight hours away back home. I can't can't

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>really you know, leave whenever I want to go see them.

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of hard making friends as an adult, I guess.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:36.399
<v Speaker 1>But I think being having having shared experiences that makes

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>it easier. Now.

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting to say that because I would think that

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 2>the military is actually like a decent way to make

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 2>friends as an adult, because you're, like, I assume you're

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 2>around a lot of people on a regular basis.

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm around the same people like

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm friendly with them at work and stuff. Like

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't really do anything outside of work. But I mean,

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>there's not too much to do around me besides like

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>go to the beach.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 2>You said in your text, you said, I still haven't

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>really figured out why I joined the military.

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>What do you that? Something?

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Is this something you're kind of wrestling with?

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess I mean, like, I think I have an idea.

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Off my parents found out, they would have stopped like

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>paying my rent, I would have been homeless. Like, I

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 1>guess that's a reason. But like other than that, I

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 1>can't really like find a deep, being full reason within myself.

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't. I don't know if there has to

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:49.879
<v Speaker 1>be one.

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, how do you feel you seem I mean,

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 2>you seem a little down, I mean.

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Shit due, I think I'm I don't know, I might

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>be a little a little depressed, but I kind of

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put like a doctor or anything

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.919
<v Speaker 1>about it because if I do, I'm afraid I might

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>lose my security clearance and then I.

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Would just oh ship, Yeah, dude, that ship. That ship

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 2>is so fucked up. That's like, that's crazy.

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. It's like it's like the same thing with pilots,

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like if they if they're like if they go like

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a therapist or anything, like, they they won't get medically

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>cleared to fly. I'm pretty sure it's it's kind of

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with the rest of the motor, but

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to test it.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, damn, I'm sorry to hear that. Man, that's a

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.959
<v Speaker 2>crazy situation to be in. But yeah, okay, but that's

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 2>that's interesting to me because I would think that, like,

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the military is such a wide ranging thing.

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not one specific job. I would think that even

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 2>if you can't get like it, like, it makes sense

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 2>to me that there's certain positions in the military that

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you can't be diagnosed with certain health issues to do. Yeah,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 2>but I mean, there's got to be a wide ranging

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:24.919
<v Speaker 2>amount of positions within the military that you you can do.

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there definitely is. But I don't. I hate

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 1>my job that I'm doing right now. If I'm trying

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to once I hit my two year mark being in,

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I can switch jobs. And the job that I almost

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>switch to need you need a higher clearance and you

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>have to go through more training. And if I you know,

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>if I like go to someone, there's a very high

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>chance that I would get denied for that job if

0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I transfer.

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you could. I'm glad that you could

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 2>talk to the therapy gecko because I cannot. I will

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 2>not your I will not strip you of your security clearance. Okay,

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 2>so hm.

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Hm hmm.

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Let's think through this, you said. Okay, you also said,

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 2>my best friend hates me.

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, that guy. That guy hates.

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, is that something you want to talk about?

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess so yeah, I feel like a lot of

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>people would relate to it. Maybe, but probably not. Okay,

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 1>it's up to you, but yeah, we can talk about

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>So back in back in high school when I was

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I think I was like fifteen or sixteen. This was

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>my end of sophomore year going to junior year, and

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to this one girl that my best

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>friend dated for like two months our freshman year. We're

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>meet and my burst men, we're in the same grade.

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>So freshman year, he dated this girl for like two months,

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>they broke up. They didn't really talk after that. End

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>of my sophomore year. Going in junior year, I started

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>talking to her, she came over, YadA, YadA, YadA, and

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>then like we stopped talking for a bit, and then

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>last yeah I think it was last year, we picked

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:02.239
<v Speaker 1>up talking again and things were like getting a little

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>more serious and like we should probably tell him, like it,

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, feels right because he dated you back in

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 1>freshman year and he's also my best friend. Like it

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel right, feels like I'm keeping a secret. And

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>so we told him, and he sort of flipped his ship.

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Not really sure why. I don't get it because he,

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, he hadn't talked From my perspective, he hadn't

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 1>talked to her in years, and so I didn't really

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 1>see the big deal of it. But I guess he

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>saw it differently, and yeah, he kind of flipped the ship,

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:47.240
<v Speaker 1>blew up on me. He didn't talk to me for months,

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and then this New Year's I went home and I

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>met him out at a bar and she was like, oh,

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like you he apologize, saying all this shit like that,

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 1>And in my head, I'm thinking, what is there to

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 1>apologize for? I didn't. I don't feel like I did

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.359
<v Speaker 1>anything wrong, Like you didn't you haven't talked to her

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>in years. But I kind of kind of one of

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>my best friends of actually I sucked up my ego.

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, look, man, yeah it was wrong. Whatever should

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>have done it. For the next couple of months, up

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>until up until three weeks ago, I thought things were

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>good between me and him. And then I went to

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the town that he went to college in, which is

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>like two or three hours away from them. Based on

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:47.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying at now, and you know, I met up

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:51.720
<v Speaker 1>with him some other buddies who went out drinking, and

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>he like the first night that I was there, all night,

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>he was slipping me comments saying like, oh, you're done,

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 1>You're done for like all this shit like that, and

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I sort of on the drive back from the bars,

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I sort of blew up at him because I mean,

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 1>it's stupid cut. But he wasn't turning on wasn't turning

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>on the radio. So I'm like, oh, dude, turn on

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the radio, like YadA, YadA, YadA. He blew up on me.

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I was LOOKI bitching him out while I was in

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the back seat, and I mean, yeah, we sort of

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>just haven't talked then, but yeah, he he sort of

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like hates my guts.

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Now, Hmmm, do you uh do you like, do you

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>grieve the friendship? Do you guys do you wish that

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 2>you guys could patch things up? Or do you kind

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.280
<v Speaker 2>of not care anymore? At this point?

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would like to have the friendship back,

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>but at this point, I mean it's kind of done with.

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna keep fighting for it

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>just because I know it on would be the same,

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and like, it's not gonna go back to the way

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that it was, so I'm not even gonna try and

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 1>repair it at this point. M hm hm hmm.

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a lot of other friends.

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Of not not like here on base but back home. Yeah,

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I talked to them pretty regularly.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Why do you feel like you don't have as many

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 2>friends on base if that's where you're spending most of

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 2>your time.

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I kind of I don't. I don't know

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:43.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the things I like to do, they're

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of like solo people things like solo activities, like

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>and I know you can go to the gym with

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>other people, but I kind of just go to the

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>gym to like look good. I don't really go to

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>chit chat and whatnot. Mm hmm. But I mean, I

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think I just don't really have that

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 1>many hobbies to go, like meet people at And when

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I when I do, like go out to a bar

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>or just anywhere in general to like meet people, I'll

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>talk to like one person and then that that conversation

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>won't really go anywhere, and I'll be I'll be in

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 1>my head thinkin damn, like well why did I even

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>why did I even come out like this is a

0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>waste of time. I should I should just go home,

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 1>and then I just go home after that.

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean I've talked about this to death

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 2>on the show, but I'll talk about it again.

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Like the.

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 2>You got to find like a kind of recurring place

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to show up, right, because you're totally right, Like what

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 2>you go out to the bar, you have one conversation

0:49:56.040 --> 0:50:02.360
<v Speaker 2>with a person, and then nothing really happens, right, Like

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of there's a lot of expectations, you know,

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 2>but if you kind of find yeah, like you said

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 2>talking about like hobbies that are more conducive to being

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>around other people and that are recurring. I mean that's

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of the secret to friendship is like find the

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 2>community and and add value to it so that you're

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 2>visible in the community.

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of the that's the general friendship equation. What

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 2>are your other hobbies we like to do?

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh? I mean I'd like to go, like there's a

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a rock climbing gym. It's like forty five minutes away.

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I don't really go all that much, but

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll go sometimes like just camping. I guess, like I'm

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a big outdoors guy, but there's not really a whole

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:54.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of outdoors stuff here.

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Are there not?

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Where?

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 2>What? What part of like on the base? Is there

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:11.359
<v Speaker 2>a Is there like a rock climbing gym? I feel

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 2>like rock climbing is actually a pretty social thing like that.

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:17.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean here in fucking Brooklyn, there's a ton of

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 2>these like rock climbing gyms that have regular uh regular

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:25.720
<v Speaker 2>regular meats.

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I mean it's pretty social. But the

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 1>only gym that's close to me is like forty five

0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>minutes away, So I'll probably only go there like once

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>among m, just because I mean, I don't really have

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that much time.

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 2>So what's the dream, Bob? What's the dream you want?

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 2>You want to you want to travel in a couple

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 2>of years when you get out.

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that's that's the dream. So we're just saving

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 1>up money now to have you seen those uh this

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>band life for a video where people buy like a

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.440
<v Speaker 1>shitty then and renovate it and sort of drive around

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the country.

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure, is that what you want to do?

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it seems like ituld be. It seems

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>like it could be pretty fun, bring a dog along.

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of expenses

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 1>doing that.

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I'll warn you have something. I'll let

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 2>you know. The like van life thing, like general, I

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:29.319
<v Speaker 2>think it's kind of one of these things where if

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 2>you haven't traveled a lot, you kind of picture what

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 2>like a nomadic lifestyle would be and traveling. Traveling is great,

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 2>traveling rocks, but like when I you know, you meet

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 2>some of these guys who do van life or like

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 2>in a hostel or whatever, and they're like, been on

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:48.959
<v Speaker 2>the fucking road for like nine months, Like the road

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:54.839
<v Speaker 2>and the nomadic world is their thing, like a kind

0:52:54.880 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 2>of constant motion, and it's it's it's lonely, it's it's

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 2>very conducive. It's not conducive to building long relationships and friendships,

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 2>especially if that's and you'll notice that. I mean if

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you were if you were kind of sitting here telling

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:18.399
<v Speaker 2>me like, oh well I needs myself and my dog

0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:24.720
<v Speaker 2>and all that, I'd be like more pro van life.

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>But the.

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's so I think it's okay to just

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, I want to travel somewhere for like

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:33.359
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks or something like that. You know,

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 2>if you want to choose a whole nomadic lifestyle. It

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 2>will make you lonely.

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But the cool thing about I know you've done

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like sorry, I know you, I know you. I know

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you've done a whole lot of like, uh like traveling solo. Yeah, likes.

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Has that ever affected you, like filling lonely.

0:53:53.440 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, totally Yeah, that's well you're twenty one, right, Yes,

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 2>that's the that's the age that I was when I

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 2>started traveling by myself. And the first time I was

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 2>doing it, it was it was awesome, it was beautiful.

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean I told one hundred percent recommend that you

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 2>do it. But I would travel for myself for like

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:24.240
<v Speaker 2>two weeks at a time, three weeks at a time,

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 2>something like that. And uh, it's so it's totally lonely.

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 2>But that's but I don't I really cherish that that

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 2>period of time because, uh, the loneliness is part of

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 2>the experience. In a sense. You have kind of these

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you have kind of these high highs where you will

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 2>meet people. You know, especially if you're good to put

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 2>yourself out there, you will meet people and you will

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:56.359
<v Speaker 2>have experiences that you couldn't have had if you went

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 2>with a group. But then you'll also have these very

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 2>melancho hollic feelings that are new, and there's a lot

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 2>of I think value and humanity in those feelings, and

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 2>especially if you're young, it's good. I'm at the age

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 2>of at now, I don't want to. I have no

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 2>interest in like long term solo traveling of any kind,

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 2>just because like, I feel like I've felt those melancholic feelings.

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:36.400
<v Speaker 2>And I I mean, sometimes I end up doing solo travel,

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:41.120
<v Speaker 2>like just by necessity if I'm filming something or doing

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 2>a show or something like that. But uh, I think, yeah,

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 2>when you're when you're when you're young, I recommend it

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 2>fully because it introduces you to new Yeah, it introduces

0:55:56.640 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 2>you to new feelings and new excitements that are are valuable.

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think you need to rent a whole

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 2>ass van to do it, you know. I never I

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 2>never did like eight months on the road or six

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 2>months on the road. I was like, a couple of

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 2>weeks in a place is cool for me.

0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I get I get thirty days of

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a pto year from the location. Maybe I'll do maybe,

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll just use up all thirty I like that.

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I like that idea. I like that idea. Yeah, where

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:28.839
<v Speaker 2>would you.

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Go, just just give it a little taste.

0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that idea. Where would you go?

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, like, northern Italy, go see go see

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the Dolomites, do some hiking.

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Dude. Yeah, dude, I don't know what your budget is like,

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 2>but if you can rip a rip Spirit Airlines, but

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:53.759
<v Speaker 2>there's an airline, I'm gonna give a free shout out

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 2>to Ryan Air. Do you know Ryanair?

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Dude? Ryan Air is fucking goaded. Have you easy Jet?

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I have an easy Jet?

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pretty it's pretty good. Ryan Jet. Spirit spirits

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:12.120
<v Speaker 1>closing down though they.

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:15.399
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know. It's it's actually so tragic, and

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 2>it kind of pisses me off because people people like

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>would meme on Spirit. People would be like, oh Spirit sucks.

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 1>They weren't that bad. They were never that bad.

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Dude, they were never that bad. And also when people

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 2>when people were like like when Spirit was like, hey,

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 2>we'll do a super low cost thing where you can

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>stand in the back of the plane, I was like,

0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that's sick. You know, It's like.

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll like, I'll pay for that. I'll probably to go

0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 1>stand in the back of the plane. You kidding me, right, right?

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, there's a whole conversation about, you

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 2>know whatever, capitalism making things cost more artificially. But Spirit

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 2>was sick in the sense that they were like, if

0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you want no frills, if you if you don't care

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:05.959
<v Speaker 2>about getting your little bottle of water, if you don't

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:08.800
<v Speaker 2>care about the seat reclining, if you don't care about

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:11.120
<v Speaker 2>all and you just want to get from point A

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 2>to point B, we will offer you that option for

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:20.840
<v Speaker 2>cheap and uh a valuable service completely gone. Whereas yeat.

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 2>In Europe, you have Ryan Air, which can like do

0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:25.640
<v Speaker 2>shit like it can take you from Italy to France

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 2>for like I don't know, I haven't I haven't used, right,

0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been in Europe in a while or used

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Air in a while. But I know there was

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 2>a ship where you could like go to go from

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 2>fucking like France to Italy to France for like thirty

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:40.120
<v Speaker 2>dollars or something that's like a bus ticket, right, So

0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that I don't know what's Yeah,

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's I don't know what's going on.

0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Don't quote me on that, but I guess I'm saying

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.120
<v Speaker 2>it's like if you have thirty days, you should totally

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:52.600
<v Speaker 2>like dick around in Europe and see what's up, you know,

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:54.439
<v Speaker 2>go spend a little bit of time in Rome, spend

0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:56.400
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of time in Paris. I don't know,

0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what your budget is, but but even

0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 2>if your budget's tight, there's like, there's there's you know,

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 2>you can stay in hostels for like Hella Chief, you

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:07.080
<v Speaker 2>can fly Ryan Air for Hello cheap. There's a there's

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:10.360
<v Speaker 2>a if you're if you're scrappy and you're down to

0:59:10.480 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 2>like stay in a bunk bed with like sixteen other

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.040
<v Speaker 2>folks and like fly on shitty airlines at like five

0:59:15.040 --> 0:59:18.520
<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the morning, there's a there's a there's a beautiful,

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 2>budget friendly adventure that I believe you could take for

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 2>those thirty days that might give you a nice little

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 2>taste of the travel universe.

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I have no problem with you know,

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 1>sleeping on a bunk beds. I slept at in a

0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>bunk bed with you know, fifty other people for two months, right.

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, right, right right right?

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Not not that out of.

0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:43.720
<v Speaker 2>The ordinary, dude, Was there ever any fill metal jacket

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:47.640
<v Speaker 2>shit where like some guy just went bonkers on everyone

0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:48.920
<v Speaker 2>dude almost.

0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>So we had this one guy, uh I'll just call

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:56.800
<v Speaker 1>him John, uh so John, Like when when we were

0:59:56.920 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>come back from doing drill, which is basically just fancy walking,

1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:04.560
<v Speaker 1>we would hear this dude like whisper to himself and

1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:08.080
<v Speaker 1>talk to himself for for like a few weeks, and

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:10.280
<v Speaker 1>we're like, what the fuck is that about? And then

1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 1>on week week five, we go to the rifle range

1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to get qualified, and on the Sunday before we go,

1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:24.040
<v Speaker 1>this dude was talking to and she was like, I'm

1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:27.440
<v Speaker 1>a fucking killer. I'm gonna kill this bitch. And I

1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 1>was walking Me and this other kid were walking by

1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like as he said that in himself, and I'm like, dude,

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:35.360
<v Speaker 1>we gotta like tell, we gotta like tell the drill

1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:38.920
<v Speaker 1>instructor like that, like if if he goes to the

1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:42.200
<v Speaker 1>range and fucking kills this lady, like like, we'll feel

1:00:42.320 --> 1:00:46.320
<v Speaker 1>responsible for that. Yeah yeah, so so so we told

1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the total drill instructor and she's like, thank you for

1:00:50.040 --> 1:00:52.800
<v Speaker 1>letting me know. H We'll get this, you know, righted

1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:56.280
<v Speaker 1>through the proper channels. And we went to lunch one day,

1:00:57.240 --> 1:00:59.920
<v Speaker 1>came back all this dude's stuff was gone, his bed

1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:03.280
<v Speaker 1>with strips, his walluck or was empty. There was ye,

1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean it looked like there was zero sign of

1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:08.800
<v Speaker 1>life in his dead in his area.

1:01:10.800 --> 1:01:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean I assume he got kicked out.

1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, uh he It turned out he lied on

1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:22.960
<v Speaker 1>his uh his like entrance mental evaluation thing m and

1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:24.920
<v Speaker 1>they kicked him out.

1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:29.400
<v Speaker 2>See, if you're walking around like go ahead, no, not

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead. I was gonna say, if you're walking around

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm gonna kill this bitch, then you know fair,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fair. They should let you go. But if you're

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm kind of sad, they should, you know, let

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<v Speaker 2>you They should still let you have a gun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, as long as you're not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>police or whatever. I do. I don't think it's that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding, but they should let you whatever, press

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<v Speaker 2>a button that makes a helicopter do something. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff you can do in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we we almost the private piled this one kid

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<v Speaker 1>because he up them. We almost did. We We were

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<v Speaker 1>we were very close to it because I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>just kept messing up and we would all get smoked

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<v Speaker 1>for it. And we, like a lot of us, came

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<v Speaker 1>to the conclusion like, yeah, like this guy's gotta got

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's gotta be taught a lesson. But we we

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<v Speaker 1>never we never did do that because we would have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten we we would have gotten found out and been

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<v Speaker 1>in beach ship, probably gotten kicked out.

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<v Speaker 2>So hazing is not still a low key accepted part

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<v Speaker 2>of the military experience. Legally, no hazing is not allowed,

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<v Speaker 2>but anecdotally.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. What's the word for it. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say it's exorrected, but maybe I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of I know, I know in the Air Force

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really a thing, but I can't speak on

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<v Speaker 1>other branches, but I'm sure it's prevalent in the other branches.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the Air Force it's it's not really a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bob, get go.

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<v Speaker 2>We've gotten to know you a little bit. You seem

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<v Speaker 2>like a good guy. You seem like a man with

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<v Speaker 2>a head on his shoulders, a man with desires, a

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<v Speaker 2>man with uh intention for his life. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 2>you this, Bob, are you still there?

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<v Speaker 1>I am, I'll answer, get go.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking for about thirty six minutes, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>willing to let you go if you must go. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>was there any aspect of any of this that you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you wanted to get deeper into, or any

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<v Speaker 2>way in which this phone call could be of of

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of assistance for you that we did not do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not really. I feel like I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to talk about, share what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to share.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, kay, is what do you think you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do? What do you think you're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>for that that thirty days? You think you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>rocket somewhere?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Right, well, right now I have a I think

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<v Speaker 1>forty two days saved up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, Oh you can do so much stuff. Damn

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<v Speaker 2>that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well I can only take thirty at a time

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<v Speaker 1>before having to come back to work before I can

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<v Speaker 1>take another thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I I dude, I actually would recommend that you not

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<v Speaker 2>take like thirty in a row, like you should just

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<v Speaker 2>you should take like two weeks and go somewhere instead

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<v Speaker 2>of like, you know, thirty one, because you'll get because

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get tired and burnt out after like two weeks anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So I would say, if you have yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think so, if you have forty two days, I

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<v Speaker 2>would like split it up into like if you have

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<v Speaker 2>forty two days. What's forty two divided by three? I

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<v Speaker 2>would go on three. I would split those forty two

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<v Speaker 2>days into three if I were.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Maybe I'll do something for my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when's your birthday?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? It's uh, it's in September, so I mean towards

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the cooler months.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool man. Well, happy, happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, even though it's not for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>another four months. Private Bob, Colonel Gecko.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything you want to say to the people

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<v Speaker 2>of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 1>Wayno boenga bing bang Dilly Deli.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellently said goodbye, mister Gecko. Goodbye, mister Bob. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>very much. That's who I want defending our country. Cat people,

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<v Speaker 2>cat cat boys named Bob who longed for the van life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's who we want. That makes me happy anyway, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>that's been the Therapy Gecko podcast. My name is Lyle.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Gecko Pacific North we I'm coming to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming to you. I got I got shows, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I got shows. I'm doing The Crocodile in Seattle June sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>Before that, I'm doing Polaris Hall Portland, Oregon June fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco June fourth, I'm Coming to Vancouver June seventh,

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<v Speaker 2>Minneapolis June ninth, Cleveland, Ohio, June eighteenth, Pittsburgh June twentieth,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte June twenty first. Many more shows in addition to those.

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<v Speaker 2>lyle forever. Other than that, I don't have anything else

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I'm tired of feel insane. But we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it through, folks. I'm gonna make it through. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make it through. Our teacher friend is gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>it through. Our military guy friend is gonna make it through.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do it. We're gonna figure it out. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna live. We're going to join the living, folks. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to join the living. Gat Bless Get Go Out,

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<v Speaker 2>goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night,

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<v Speaker 2>goes through, and he's teaching you a loud in them

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<v Speaker 2>of your life. But he's not to be an expert