1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Hey, Josha, what what was that book you were referencing Sunday? 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: I think it was Relentless maybe by by Tim Grover? 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: Was was that it? Yeah? It was, yeah, Relentless Tim Grover. 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: When when did you first read that book? And how 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: have you sort of used it as inspiration? You're talking 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: about how you know Trey Bond was a cleaner on 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Sunday just cures on how you even got to get 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: going with that. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been I really I haven't read the book. 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: I've been listening to the audiobook for about two years now. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: And and Evan Ingram is another guy that you know 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 3: that I've experienced these moments with, and you know, then 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: having Trey Bond be introduced to it, and you know 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: him him learning some things from that book, and you 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: know it's it's a given take. It is a given 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: taking the book. You know, there's a lot of things 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: that you think are necessary, a lot of things that 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: are you know, I can I can, you know, I could. 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: Take something from it. 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: So you know, I'm not saying it to help everybody, 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: but you know what you're looking for, you can definitely 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: get something out of it. 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: And how have you seen Traybon sort of maybe embody 24 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: what you were talking about Sunday and just his growth 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: from since he got here. 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: I mean it was really just that one play, you know. 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: I mean, he you know, we just line up and 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: play ball at the end of the day once Sunday 29 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 3: does come. But it was just like at that last series, 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: you know, when he mentioned it to me, he told 31 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: me that he was this is how he's been feeling 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: all game, and so, you know, not knowing that he 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: was actually reading the book or listening to the audiobook 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: or whatever, just knowing at that moment he just mentioned 35 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: it to me, and you know, I just thought it was, 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: you know, really cool. 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Hey, Josh, thanks for doing this. This is 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: gonna be I think your sixth trip, you know, over 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: to London. There's so much different does it feel now? 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: And how much more comfortable is everything compared to maybe 41 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: your first time over there in twenty nineteen? 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I definitely, it's definitely. 43 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't think you can never get 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 3: used to the top, you know, the travel, but once 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: you get there, it is what it is. 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: You know. 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, we had a game 48 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: to win, and that's really our main focus. You know, 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: we just have that extra week excuse me after that 50 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: to get you know, to get adjusted back to you know, 51 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: official timing out there. And you know, so week two 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: is probably more of a bigger, bigger change for us, 53 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: but we like it, and you know, we do get out. 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 4: There and being out there for you know, two weeks 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: last year, Just how much does that go to like 56 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: building the chemistry and just being around the team for 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 4: like that amount of time. 58 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: I mean, at the one hotel we stayed at the heck, 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: ain't nothing else to do, you know, So I think 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: that that kind of it doesn't force people to be together, 61 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: but it just allows us to find opportunities to connect 62 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: with others and just you know, just get to know 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: more people outside of it here. So like you know, 64 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 3: I know, as you guys know, in the locker room, 65 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: we've mixed it up a little bit. So you know, 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: guys are you know, not really blocked off and in 67 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: their groups now. So that allows us to get to know, 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, the person next to us, and so moving 69 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: over there is gonna be another you know, we get 70 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: to know these guys a little bit more. So I 71 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: probably get to hang out with some people, you know, 72 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: to be sitting down there chilling majority of the time, 73 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: and someone probably be doing the same thing. And we 74 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: just started a conversation and you know, get to know 75 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: what everybody's about. 76 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: Appreciate Josh. 77 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 5: All right, go ahead, Mia and then d Rock. 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 6: Okay, another pseudo non football question. Josh. I'm sure the 79 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: answer is yes, but although you certainly do have a 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 6: day job, you're also focused on how much? How much 81 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 6: have you been following the WNBA playoffs? 82 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, do you know that. 83 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 6: Your sister's in the final? 84 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, okay, I know, Oh yeah, I know that. 85 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: I know that. I know that, and I know she's 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: about about to win the championship. There we go, awesome crazy. 87 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: I was wondering if you were following it at all. 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 6: Obviously now you certainly have a lot going on for 89 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 6: you guys when it comes to going over to London 90 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 6: the Thursday night versus I'm sure you've talked to other teams. 91 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 6: I know you've only ever done it where you guys 92 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 6: leave with the shorter window, But what have you heard 93 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 6: maybe from guys around the league, if any at all, 94 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 6: that they leave earlier versus doing it the way the 95 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 6: Jags do it. 96 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think people trying to figure 97 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: out what we try to do more so than what 98 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: we you know, try to find everybody else to do. 99 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: You know, we've been going on there for six years, 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: so what advice is somebody going to give us about traveling? 101 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: And then you know with Doug, Doug's a you know, 102 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: routine guy. 103 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: He does it. 104 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: You know, he's been doing this for the past couple 105 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: of years now, so you know his timing isn't going 106 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: change much much of any other than this, you know, 107 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: hurricane that's happening. But you know, girls of that man 108 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: were going to put down there. Whenever we leave, we leave, 109 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: and you know, we play ball and we get ready 110 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: to go. 111 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 6: All right. Now, the football question their offense, how have 112 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 6: you seen them grow from the first three games on 113 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 6: tape they gave up fourteen sacks to the last two 114 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 6: where they've only given up four. 115 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: I mean, quick game and screams. You know, they gave 116 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: the balls, you know, they gave the balls to their playmakers. 117 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: They got a good receiving corps. You know, good offensive 118 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: line as well, solid offensive line and you know quarterback 119 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: who you know who's young but who can who can 120 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: make every throw? So we got to give credit what 121 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: credits due? Uh DeAndre Swift is a good running back. 122 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: You know, I still remember days you know him back 123 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: in Georgia, so I got to give my get back, 124 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: you know. But he's a good running back, and they 125 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: do a good job with scheming, scheming the defenses up 126 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: so at the end of the days, it's really not 127 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 3: about them. It's about us and make sure that we're 128 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: where where we're supposed to be each and every play, 129 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: and just to be able to play fast always. 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm really most excited about that. 131 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: It's tiding to get back out there and you know, 132 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: another opportunity to go out there and dominate. 133 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 6: Does it feel like this team is where it's supposed 134 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 6: to be after Sunday? I know, obviously this fourth quarter 135 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 6: probably gave you guys a lot of stuff to work on, 136 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 6: But independent of that, did it feel like Sunday was 137 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 6: a step in the right direction? 138 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: Definitely? 139 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: You know, we were I'm not going to say we 140 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: were searching for week one, I mean one one, but 141 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: just waiting for that, waiting for that moment to come 142 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: so we can you know, have this fuel, have this 143 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: positive fuel in the locker room, in the in the 144 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: whole building as a whole, and hopefully he can keep 145 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: carrying on again. You know, even with this hurricane coming, 146 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: I think we still have a great plan of you know, 147 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: executing what we need to get done. And I don't 148 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: think this is a big distractions for all. I think 149 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: we all know that it is what it is with 150 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: the hurricane, and don't let that affect what we have 151 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: going on. And I think a lot of guys are 152 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: really hone into that. And so I can't wait to 153 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: go out there Friday in London and do what we 154 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: need to do and just you know, get ready for Sunday. 155 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: Then Josh's pass rushers do is there anything to facing 156 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback? 157 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 5: We in the media seem to make. 158 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 7: A big deal about rookie quarterbacks, But is there anything 159 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 7: different for you or for pass rushers and dealing with that. 160 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you'd like to play against rookie quarterbacks, you know, 161 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: you'd like to play against them. They want to you 162 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I think they a lot of 163 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: them want to make the plays, make the big plays. 164 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: You know, when the numbers, when those numbers gets called, 165 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: so they get to tend to hold it onto the 166 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: ball a little bit more. And I know with this quarterback, 167 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: he does a really good job on you know, getting 168 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: them away from sacks, so that gives us more opportunities 169 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: to rush the ball because he I believe he has 170 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: all the comforting in the world that can't nobody sack him. 171 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: Obviously the first two weeks they gave him fourteen or whatever. 172 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: First three weeks. I don't know what he said right then, 173 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: but you know, even still on the tape, he tries 174 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: to do he does his best on avoided sacks. So 175 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: you know, we can keep our rush lanes and you know, 176 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: rush for more physically upfront. I think we'll have and 177 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: bus on the edge is we just went on one 178 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: on ones. You know, if we can do those and 179 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 3: affect him to make them step up and make them 180 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: retreat and just you know, really go chase stuff down. 181 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 3: Give our dvs. I know dvs probably gonna have to 182 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: plaster a little bit longer. But if we can keep 183 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: him in that pocket and hold him in there, man, 184 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: we'll we'll have a lot of success this week. 185 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 5: All right, we have time for two more. 186 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: We're gonna go to Gene and then end with Alessandra. 187 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 5: Hey, Josh, what do you make of It's only a 188 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: five game, Sam size. I realized that what do you 189 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 5: make of the inconsistency with the defense so far? You 190 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: had two really good games, you had another really bad. 191 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 5: You had a bad game obviously at Buffalo, not a 192 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 5: very good first half, against Houston, better second half, and 193 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 5: same thing with Indianapolis. Pretty good opening forty minutes, bad 194 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 5: last twenty minutes. Is this about? Is this about communication? 195 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 7: Is this about maybe missing some guys that would really 196 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 7: help out on defensive? What do you make of how 197 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 7: inconsistent the defense has been so far? 198 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: I think just players need to play, players need to 199 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: make We need to make our plays, and just you know, 200 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: start faster, and we can't be able to do that. 201 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: Man, We'll be right where we need to be. 202 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 7: How much how bopinsive is it for you that last 203 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 7: four games you guys have given up a touchdown on 204 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 7: the opening drive. 205 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, we got to start fast. Can't allow that? 206 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 5: Thanks, Hi, Josh? 207 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 8: So uh, obviously you know Tyson Campbell's twenty one day open, 208 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 8: so to get him back? 209 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: Just what is the. 210 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 8: Versatility that he brings in just the uniqueness, especially as 211 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 8: a leader, but also just to what he does for 212 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 8: the defense. 213 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a corner that you know that when 214 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: he's in his zone, like you don't want to you 215 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: don't want to bother on his side. Uh So that 216 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: so that lucks down on one side of the field, 217 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: and you know, Buster or Darby you know's done, is 218 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: done a good job so far, I guess on just 219 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: doing what they're supposed to do. So having Tyson back 220 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: and having Savage back, there's a lot of versatility, a 221 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of more age, a lot more 222 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: experience in the back end, and so you know, with 223 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: with them, I think it just allows more confidence, you know, 224 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 3: throughout everybody else just to play free and just well 225 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 3: Tyson's back, and you know what I mean. 226 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: So just to have your starters back out there, you know, 227 00:10:59,240 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: it means a lot. 228 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: Even when Foyer gets back, it's you know, this is 229 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 3: gonna feel a little bit different. And because we haven't 230 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: had our full defensive you know, roster since Miami, So 231 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: just to be able to get everybody back at one time, man, 232 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 3: it's gonna be special. 233 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: And you know, hopefully you know, Tyson stay healthy because 234 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: when he's healthy. Man, he's a heck of a player 235 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: and I can't wait to play with him again. All right, 236 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: thanks Josh, thank you,