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Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Popping Off. We are so excited because one

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Speaker 1: of the new shows.

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Speaker 2: Wait, why does your voice gets off like that?

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Speaker 1: Because my microphone is so loud and we don't know

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Speaker 1: how to fix it, so you have to talk very

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Speaker 1: de mirror. Yeah, so I'm doing ASMR and yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were trying to be sexy.

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Speaker 1: You thought I was trying to get soft swinging Mormons.

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Speaker 2: To get to allow you to join. That's your sexy voice.

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Speaker 1: Well, before we bring in, we have Macy and michaela

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Speaker 1: from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives And to give you

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Speaker 1: guys just a little bit of a rundown of the show,

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Speaker 1: this is the synopsis. This is the professional synopsis. The

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Speaker 1: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives takes a TikTok sex scandal

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Speaker 1: to the small screen. The upcoming series will follow the

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Speaker 1: aftermath of a group of Mormon influencers whose soft swinging

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Speaker 1: lifestyle upended their community and marriages. While enthralled a huge

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Speaker 1: swave on the Internet. Baith, friendship and reputations are all

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Speaker 1: on the line. A synopsis from Hulu reads in part

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Speaker 1: will hashtag mom talk be able to survive and continue

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Speaker 1: to give the rule book a run for its money,

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Speaker 1: or will this group fall from grace. Do yourselves a favor,

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Speaker 1: y'all and go to hashtag mom talk.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I tried that it's too much information.

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Speaker 1: Well that's why we are going to you know, first,

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Speaker 1: we're going to bring on these two ladies, and then

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Speaker 1: we're going to watch the show right along with you guys.

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Speaker 1: For those that don't have time to spend endless hours

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Speaker 1: on TikTok like I did.

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Speaker 3: Actually, if you go to Reddit, they do like a

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Speaker 3: nice breakdown there. Oh perfect, Yeah, if you want the

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Speaker 3: if you want the cliff notes, there's some nice just

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Speaker 3: just get a brief synopsis so you're ready.

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Speaker 2: For the show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and then obviously you have to keep tuning in here.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's bring in Macy and MICHAELA. Macy is

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Speaker 1: a former D one tennis player at Brigham Young University.

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Speaker 1: She's also a founder of a natal nutrition company. Additionally,

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Speaker 1: the twenty year old wife has two kids and a

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Speaker 1: blended family with husband Jacob, and is currently on an

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Speaker 1: IVF journey to expand her family. She has one million

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Speaker 1: TikTok followers, and we've got Mikayla. Former teen mom. Mikayla

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Speaker 1: Matthews twenty four says, the show really gets to the

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Speaker 1: raw things that we are going through. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: show the different sides to the religion. Ads Matthews, who

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Speaker 1: is now married with three kids to husband Jayce. She

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Speaker 1: has two point four million ticure callers.

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Speaker 2: Are you on TikTok? I'm not even on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't even talk about

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Speaker 1: what our TikTok company?

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Speaker 3: Well minor zero because I'm not on TikTok. I can't

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Speaker 3: do TikTok. Oh, I have thousand Damn Teddy. They should

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Speaker 3: be interviewing us, not the other way around.

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Speaker 1: Thank god we have a lot of listeners on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: because that's really where we thrive. Apparently, I think we

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Speaker 1: But let's bring the girls in and start grilling.

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Speaker 1: I oh, of course we all are together, all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: the first thing we need to go through is can

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Speaker 1: you please tell us how mom Talk got started? And

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Speaker 1: would you give all the credit to Taylor.

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Speaker 5: So we all had most of us had social followings

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Speaker 4: After the soft Swing scandal, I would see.

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Speaker 3: Was Taylor the for the scandal to get out there?

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Speaker 3: I don't know a lot of the background. So was

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Speaker 1: So you guys are not soft swingers.

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Speaker 1: vocabulary wars that I've learned? Well, one, Emily is married

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Speaker 5: Well, okay. Soaking is like where a guy puts it

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Speaker 1: So there's no penetration, there's just entrance and then it

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Speaker 1: Let's get into shaking the bed and then docking.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so shaking the bed is for people who are

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Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean, this is crazy. Who

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Speaker 1: Now we need to know what docking is. Clearly, I

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Speaker 5: I know, I just drop the bombs.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, docky, that's so good. I'll shake the bed

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Speaker 2: You just have to wake me up.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Docking okay, so oh gosh, So how do I

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Speaker 1: No, what's that?

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Speaker 5: Like anything past like making out is like, you can't

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think social media only taps into a little

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Speaker 6: Side of her dealing with it, our for our group

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Speaker 6: I think some of us are closer than others, and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll have to wait and see how that one

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think you're seeing people in their personal interviews. Right,

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Speaker 5: we'll see people in their personal interviews. Yeah, maybe you're

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Speaker 6: I think it's hard to get eight women together not

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Speaker 5: And our periods were all sinking too, were like hungry

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Speaker 1: It's like me and Emily, we go through perimenopause together. Also,

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Speaker 1: I'm really nailing it like this, people are going to

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Speaker 2: Some people do. Yes, I agree, people really.

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Speaker 5: I think I think it's gonna be what she said,

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Speaker 1: And now I also need to know, like, are you

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Speaker 5: I know you're dodging.

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Speaker 3: Going to ask you that. So you haven't seen any

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Speaker 5: You don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think we're just gonna watch it with the rest

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what do you think that there is some

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Speaker 5: But we don't know yet.

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Speaker 1: If right, and everybody is currently married on the show,

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Speaker 5: No, so Layla is not married and then anymore, she

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Speaker 6: But everyone has kids. Everyone has kids. There's blended families.

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Speaker 4: You know you'll have to wait, Allen for sure.

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Speaker 5: The boundaries and test the water. So I think the

445
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Speaker 5: show in general is almost like a social experiment because

446
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 5: we all, most of us were friends going into it,

447
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Speaker 5: and like we all had our trials to get like,

448
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 5: even we who were like we're very very close, like

449
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 5: had moments where we're like, what's going on, like even

450
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Speaker 5: in our friendship, And I think a reality show kind

451
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Speaker 5: of tests that because it's just crazy. It's emotionally draining too.

452
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Speaker 5: It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: And what are your thoughts on the book Bad Mormon.

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Speaker 5: I haven't read it, so I don't know. I might

455
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Speaker 5: have to add that to my list. I've never read

456
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Speaker 5: it before. But I am a big book girl, an

457
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Speaker 5: audible girl. I don't like to read. I'd like to listen,

458
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Speaker 5: so might have to tex I haven't heard of that.

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Speaker 3: Have you gotten any feedback as far as the church?

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Speaker 3: Because I lived in Utah for five years, my husband

461
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Speaker 3: is Mormon. I'm not but I do know that culturally

462
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Speaker 3: the church is huge. I mean, it's just I felt

463
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Speaker 3: when I lived there, I felt like I didn't really

464
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Speaker 3: fit in because I was never LDS, so you know,

465
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Speaker 3: I always felt a little displaced there. So my question

466
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Speaker 3: would be, with these episodes coming out and the religion

467
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Speaker 3: being such so central to all of this, do you

468
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Speaker 3: guys worry about what the church thinks and church and

469
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Speaker 3: it's import the show?

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I think for sure.

471
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Speaker 4: I think even just dropping the name.

472
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Speaker 6: It was like a huge backlash already just having the

473
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Speaker 6: word Mormon in there. And I think it's hard where

474
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Speaker 6: we are if we go anywhere else, like Utah has

475
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Speaker 6: such a strong community of Mormons. So I think it's

476
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Speaker 6: just the community and the culture in Utah that's hard

477
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Speaker 6: to navigate. And I feel like it's such a small

478
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Speaker 6: bubble in Utah too, like everyone knows somebody, even.

479
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Speaker 5: Driving home from her house.

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Speaker 6: The other day, I was in an uber and the

481
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Speaker 6: guy was like, oh, so what do you do? And

482
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Speaker 6: I talked about being on a reality show. He's like, oh,

483
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Speaker 6: it's not the new Secret Lives, warmon Lives and I

484
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 6: was like, oh, actually it is.

485
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Speaker 4: And so it's like and he just had so many

486
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Speaker 4: questions to ask.

487
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Speaker 5: I think it's just fascinating.

488
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Speaker 4: But I definitely think people in Utah a little bit

489
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Speaker 4: more offended by it. Maybe Yeah, I'm.

490
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Speaker 5: Originally California too, and I would say the culture in

491
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Speaker 5: each ove is a lot different than it is in California,

492
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Speaker 5: And I do think I don't think the church will

493
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Speaker 5: really do much.

494
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Speaker 4: And I think as long as you know who you

495
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Speaker 4: are and like what you're betraying, then there's nothing to

496
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Speaker 4: worry about.

497
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Speaker 5: Like I'm not worried about it as an active member

498
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Speaker 5: because like I didn't do anything that I'm like worried

499
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Speaker 5: about or like that.

500
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Speaker 1: What do you have your undergarments on right now?

501
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Speaker 5: Not right now?

502
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Speaker 6: Uh oh we're business up here, but casual.

503
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Speaker 5: It's too hot in my house right now to where

504
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Speaker 5: I'm no, But I know I talked about that on

505
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Speaker 5: my social medium, like why are we asking people like

506
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Speaker 5: what underwear are we wearing? Like why do you care

507
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 5: if I'm like wearing that? Like I think it's when

508
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 5: it's personal for each member, but also like for some reason,

509
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 5: it's like a culture thing where people are like, well,

510
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Speaker 5: you're not doing this, you're not doing this, You're not

511
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Speaker 5: doing this you're not Mormon, but like that's not true.

512
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Speaker 5: So I'm really hoping the show can shed light on

513
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Speaker 5: the fact that, like there we're all on different journeys

514
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Speaker 5: with the Mormon Church, and we don't need to judge

515
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 5: based on where they are, but anything, we should be

516
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 5: accepting people because we're all sinners. That's why we go

517
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 5: to church, right, is to you know, feel that community

518
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 5: and get altered to Christ. Right, So why are we

519
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Speaker 5: turning people away and saying we don't claim these people?

520
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Speaker 5: So that's why I hope the show shit's like hones

521
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Speaker 5: like you can still be Mormon, like you could come

522
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Speaker 5: to church, you could do this, like you don't have

523
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Speaker 5: to be perfect. And so that's kind of like what

524
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Speaker 5: I'm hoping comes out of it.

525
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Speaker 4: And I think a big bash backlash that we've gotten to.

526
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Speaker 6: Is saying, oh, well, they don't look like typical Mormon wives,

527
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Speaker 6: and I'm like, well, what does a typical Mormon wife look.

528
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Speaker 3: I don't think that's true because I lived in Utah

529
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Speaker 3: for five years and I was like, damn, all these

530
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Speaker 3: women are attractive. I think I can I can spot

531
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Speaker 3: a Mormon wife woman, and they all are attractive.

532
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Speaker 2: They really are.

533
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Speaker 1: Well put together, I guess, and.

534
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Speaker 3: I read once that there's more like plastic surgery in

535
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Speaker 3: Utah than than California, the second biggest. Like the women

536
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Speaker 3: in Utah look good and they take care of themselves,

537
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Speaker 3: So I think you all do look like Mormon wife.

538
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Speaker 5: So you can spot a Mormon wife, like when I

539
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 5: go back to California, like, oh that girls Mormon, tell

540
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Speaker 5: I don't know what to die.

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Speaker 2: I can't do.

542
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Speaker 6: Mormons, but I think there's I think that's what was

543
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 6: so fascinating about the show is just Utah women in general.

544
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 5: People are so fascinated with because they're like, what do

545
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 5: they look like this where are always put together and

546
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 5: they're drinking soda at nine am?

547
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Speaker 1: Like you know what, I like that drive through where

548
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: you can only get sodas and you add a little splash.

549
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Speaker 1: What's it called.

550
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Speaker 2: Swag?

551
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Speaker 1: I love my gosh. Well, thank you guys so much.

552
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Speaker 1: We are so excited to watch and recap and then

553
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Speaker 1: hopefully we can have you guys back on.

554
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you guys. I appreciate it. Thank you

555
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Speaker 2: so much. Okay, bye,