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You're listening to The John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: on the air from one until four every day, and 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: then after four o'clock you can hear the show again 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and in case you missed parts of it, 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Johnny can on demand. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: In one hour, we're scheduled to have a pretty special interview. 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: You may remember it was just. 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: About a week ago we had a crazed homeless man 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: who had just stabbed some employee at a Walmart and 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: Seemi Valley then went to his home in Camarillo, got 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: into some dispute with his family, then drove off and 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: eventually made his way two thousand Oaks, where he ran 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: into a group of teens on the sidewalk. Literally he 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: ran them over with his car, and one of those 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: teens have passed away. We're gonna have a chance to 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 2: talk to Wesley Welling's father in one hour. His name 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: is Craig Welling. He's agreed to talk to us about 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: his son, So stand by for that in about an 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: hour here on the John and Ken Show. 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: I remember I. 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: Mentioned at this time yesterday that some people in the 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: United States are seeing the Northern Lights, and you kept saying, 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: where where Mammoth Lakes? John, That's not that far. No, Well, 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: people in Mammoth Lake saw the Northern Lights on Sunday 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: night and took some incredible pictures. Again, we mentioned it's 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: a solar storm that was so intense it caused the 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 2: Northern Lights to be visible a little further south. Well, 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: actually a lot further south than they normally are. You 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: usually have to be in places like Alaska. 31 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: Sun ejects like solar gas out of its system. It burped, 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: a big burp, and it has its own magnetic field, 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: and then it hits the Earth and that lights up 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: the sky. 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: You see the Northern lights were captured at Mount Wilson 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: Sunday night too. 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: Oh, that's even closer. That's very close. 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: I wonder if that was using some sort of equipment. No, 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. They think that this is According to 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: one researcher at UCLA, this is not the maximum. 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 1: Yet of the solar cycle. 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: This will happen in the next one or two years 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: again probably, So yeah, in the next year or two, 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: he says, this will probably happen again. So get your bagspack, Johns. 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: You can race off. 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: The sun is on eleven year solar cycles. Oh where 47 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: it of reps and then it calms and it reps again. 48 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: I took a trip last summer to Alaska September. They 49 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: told us that it was a chance you could see 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: the northern lights. You know, we'll wake you up if 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: we hear there a sighting. But never happened. So and 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 2: I was in Iceland years before that, but I was 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: there in the summer. No northern lights. So I've been 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: kind of hunting down. I'd be willing to drive up 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: to Mount Wilson to see the northern lights. A big 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: story this afternoon, and a story that we have followed 57 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: for years has finally come to its latest moment in 58 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: the courtroom, and that of course, was the torture death 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: of ten year old Anthony Ovolos. He died in twenty eighteen. 60 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: This is the boy from. 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: The Antelope Valley we had that terrible Gabriel Fernandez was 62 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: another one run of young boys being tortured and ultimately 63 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: dying at the hands of Usually it's their mother and 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: like a living boyfriend, which is the case of Anthony Avolos. 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: Heather Baron thirty three, the mother and Kareem Leva thirty 66 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: seven today got life in prison without the possibility of parole. 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: The one thing that happened in this case is when 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: George Gascon became DA, he took the death sentence off 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: the table which was there in twenty two. 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: These two should have been taken to the electric chair 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: and fried twice over torture. 72 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: They should have been tortured. Yeah, they should have had 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: done to them what they did to this little boy, 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: burning them with cigarettes, holding him upside down, making him urinate, 75 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: and defecating his room. They would pick him up and 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: slam him on the ground, slam is head into the ground. 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: Then they would just leave them there. That that's part 78 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: of the regular abuse. 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,559 Speaker 1: And it went on for years. Yeah, ayah, Child Services 80 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Well, you've got you've got people in 81 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: child Services who absolutely don't care. They've got government jobs. 82 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: They can't be fired, they'll get pensions. And you know, 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: they deal with phone calls all day with all kinds 84 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: of crazy, fractured violent families and all kinds of reports 85 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: of abuse, and they're they're totally desensitized and they had 86 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: they've lost their conscience if they ever had one. It's 87 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: just a job to get a paycheck out of the 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: county because they don't. They don't have real desire to 89 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: help people. Most of them don't, and if they did, 90 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: it's beaten out of them pretty quickly because there's only 91 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: so many of these scenes you could you could watch. 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: They come to court, right, and and they actually have 93 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: a claim that Avolos, little Anthony threw himself to the ground. 94 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: I mean really that was part of their defense. 95 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: You just make stuff up. But yeah, you're looking at 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: life in prison. So they're hope, well, they're hoping for 97 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: one dopey juror who might say, oh, look, that's possible. 98 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: Hold out there. These are two people with negligible brains 99 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: to begin with, all right, I mean, they're brain damaged 100 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: in their own way that they're capable of this kind 101 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: of cruelty. You're talking about extreme sociopathic, psychopathic behavior with 102 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: all the violence that went on. So they don't think. 103 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: The mother waited to call nine to one one until 104 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: Anthony was literally deceased on the afternoon of June twentieth, 105 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. That's how they treated this boy because they 106 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: beat him up so often, and he was still alive 107 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 2: the next day. But they thought this was just another 108 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: case of h yeah, we'll tortu room, we'll beat him up, 109 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: and you know he'll be back, so we can do 110 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: it again. This time he didn't recover. And again this 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: is the mother who, when child services intervened in the 112 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: case a couple of times, they sent her to parenting classes. 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: That was their idea to make this a better home 114 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: for Anthony. The parenting classes. When you're doing this to 115 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: a child. 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: The progressives have this stupid obsession that you can go 117 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: to classes and that's going to correct sociopathic behavior. It doesn't. 118 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: There are no classes. They're anger. Management classes don't work, 119 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: Parenting classes don't work. All these classes, it's it's just 120 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: another extension of the bureaucracy of the industrial complex that'll 121 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: work because you can't. You cannot change what goes on 122 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: inside a damaged person's brain. It's impossible. They're wiring as 123 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: they're wiring. 124 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: There's parenting classes for people that are just a little 125 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: off and the way they verbally deal with their kid. 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: But if you're beaten and torturing your kid like this, 127 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: it's a parent no, no, no, this is this is 128 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: your right. This is evil that cannot be fixed with classes. 129 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: It's only fixed with prison, really the death penalty. No, 130 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: you got to you gotta get the kids out of there. 131 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: But you have to want to get the kids out 132 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: of there, and you have to be courageous because you 133 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: got to go to court, and you have to be blunt. 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: And I read a great quote today is that the 135 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: society does not appreciate bluntness. Society actually rewards hypocrisy, superficiality, 136 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: and shallowness. 137 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: And I read that and I go, hey, that's about right. 138 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: You want to clear out a room, tell the truth, 139 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: but if you talk in code and euphemisms, everybody goes, 140 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: oh yeah. And that's what you're dealing with here. You 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: have social workers who don't see any value in telling 142 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: judges or telling their supervisors really what's going on, because 143 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: to actually remove kids can be difficult. The whole legal system, 144 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: the whole philosophy is against that. And this is what 145 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: you get. 146 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: But sadly, we're at a point now where there's a 147 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 2: piece of legislation and sacramento which could release this duo 148 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: probably within fifteen years. 149 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: We told you about it a couple of weeks ago. 150 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: That they now want to look back at the murder cases. Yes, 151 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: even murder cases, even people on death row now right now, 152 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: they started with murders before a date in nineteen ninety. 153 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: But believe me, we understand the creeping crawl and the 154 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: incrementalism of this stuff. Eventually, if enough of these people 155 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: take over in Sacramento, they're going to say, oh, even 156 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: if you torture a little boy to death, a ten 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: year old boy, a helpless boy, ten to fifteen years, 158 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: is enough, you've learned your lesson. 159 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: You'll be free. So I just don't believe this life 160 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: without parole. 161 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's not going to exist in 162 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: California within the next few years. 163 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: I believe. 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: No, they're gonna it. Already doesn't exist, they're already undoing it, 165 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: but they're doing it slowly so that there's not a 166 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: major revolt by the public. 167 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: And this was their cover to get rid of the 168 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: death penalty. Oh, don't worry, We'll give them life without 169 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: prolem and. 170 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: Prison is just awful. While they do is lie. They 171 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: have a plan. You just don't know it. Most people 172 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: don't because they don't pay attention. They don't and also 173 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: people don't want to accept that the people in government 174 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: are this bad. Are this crazy? But they are and 175 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: you'll see as time goes on. All right, as soon 176 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: as we'll return. 177 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: It's a key word that you will get with your 178 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: chance to win one thousand dollars. Follow the directions and 179 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: you could win. Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty were 180 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 181 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 182 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 183 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: All right, we returned to the story out of San 184 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: Francisco that got a lot of national attention. Back on 185 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: April fourth, a tech executive by the name of Bob 186 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: Lee was found stabbed to death on the streets of 187 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: San Francisco. Of course, immediately most of us assumed it's 188 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: because it's very unsafe there now, and it probably was 189 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: a mugging or a crazed homeless person. 190 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: And it took a number of days before they arrested. 191 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: A man by the name of Nima Momeni, an IT 192 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: consultant who knew Bob Lee, and he lived across the 193 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: bay in Emeryville. Entering the picture was a third person, 194 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: Momeni's sister. Her name is Kazar Momeni, and the first 195 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: feeling is that she was in some sort of romantic 196 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: relationship with bobb Lely that Nima Momeni did not like 197 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: because Kazar is married. She's married to a prominent plastic surgeon. 198 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: There was a court appearance today for Momenti, although basically 199 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: most of the proceedings were postponed until May. Second discovery issues. 200 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: But actually that's actually a good clause to use here. 201 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: But what we're about to tell you, But about twenty 202 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: family members Bob Lee showed up in court to support 203 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: and to find out what's going on. 204 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: There is an. 205 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: Update to the story which brings in yet another salacious element. 206 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: Besides the possibility that Bob Lee may have had some 207 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: sort of sexual relationship with the sister of Nima and 208 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: I got him worked up, it's drugs. In the hours 209 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 2: before the stabbing, Bob Lee and Kazar Momenti visited a 210 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: suspected drug dealer and an unidentified friend at an apartment 211 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: on Mission Street. The man in question is not being 212 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: named by local media in San Francisco. The drug dealer, 213 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: but in twenty twenty two he was found guilty of 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: felony possession of controlled substance with the intent to sell 215 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: in two separate cases in his apartment, they found an 216 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: array of drugs, including something similar called GBL to a 217 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: date rate drug, nitrous oxide MDMA. 218 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: And LSD MDMA's ecstasy. 219 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: Prosecutors described him as deeply engaged in the trafficking of 220 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: controlled substances. 221 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: So they were going for the crazy party drugs. All 222 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: that stuff is what lots of people take on weekend nights, 223 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: and they. 224 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: It was called crazy Bob from his fraternity days, so 225 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: he was known to have been wild. 226 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, one story said he did a lot of drugs, 227 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: which is very common among wealthy tech guys because just like. 228 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: Athletes with a lot of money and some time on 229 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: the lands, Yeah, they're guys and they're bored. 230 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: When you're a tech guy, you usually have a really 231 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: high IQ, specialized i Q in a lot of cases, 232 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: and things come to you easy, and you get bored 233 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: and you're looking for new stimulation, new highs. You have 234 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: a ton of money. You have a ton of money 235 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: and attract all kinds of beautiful women and then you 236 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: can use these party drugs. They keep you up all 237 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: night in a craze state, and this is what they 238 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: do because they don't know what else to do. And 239 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: it's a good time, and bob Lely was one of them. 240 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: So supposedly, after leaving the apartment, Lee went to the 241 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: hotel where he was staying on the Embarcadero, and the sister, 242 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: Kauzara Momenti, went to her home at the Millennium Tower. 243 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: But at some point Nima Momenti shows up and becomes 244 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: upset with Lee and questions him about this inappropriate conduct 245 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: and drug use. So it could be two things that 246 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: he doesn't like the fact that his sister's cheating her 247 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: husband and using drugs. Well, it's sort of like a parent. 248 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: Apparently he was quite the guardian to his little sister. Yeah, 249 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: he was the big brother and she was she was wild. 250 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: She's sleeping around in her husband, she's doing drugs with 251 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: this rich tech guy and it's making him crazy. And 252 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: well many Nimo Momenti. The guy was not rap too 253 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: tied either. He had a history of occasionally some outbursts. Yeah, 254 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: some outbursts. So this this wasn't the big brother you 255 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: wanted to mess with. Some story that the police recalled 256 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: because some woman was screaming his name at his condo 257 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: building in Emoryville sometime a couple of years ago, but 258 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: they never really got to the bottom of what that was. 259 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: This residence reported hearing some woman screaming NeiMa. So I 260 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: don't know if was his sister or who it was. 261 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 2: So apparently Lee and Nimo Monmeni end up at the 262 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: Millennium Tower and that's of course where his sister lives. 263 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: They have surveillance footage. They captured them leaving together and 264 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: driving to a spot beneath the Bay Bridge, and that's 265 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: where Lee was stabbed. And they believe this is probably premeditated, 266 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: that Lee bought the knife with them, It wasn't just 267 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: this spur of the moment argument. That's probably what happened anyway, 268 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: is more many confrontedly about the drugs and possibly the 269 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: relationship with his sister. But and he just happened to 270 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: have a kitchen knife with him, Yeah, because it was prepared. 271 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: We all walk around with kitchen knives. Yeah, and he 272 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: drives him underneath the Bay Bridge. They quote another person, 273 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: Tarana Epocchi, interesting names in this story, close friends with 274 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Lee knew Kazar Momenti. She said they met around twenty twenty. 275 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: Appears to be a romantic relationship. Epocchi warned Bob Lee 276 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: that MOMENTI was married, and he told her it doesn't 277 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: seem like it matters to her because she's flirting with me. 278 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: And Apacchi said, Lee liked to party, he liked to 279 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: unfortunately do a lot of drugs. But he was the 280 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: sweetest guy ever. He always had this light around him. 281 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to walk right around the light around him. 282 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to do you pay for that? This 283 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: guy hold the light over your head as your walk 284 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: because he gets a lot of attention and worth fortune. 285 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: They exactly right. So you see these little fat trolls 286 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: who happen to be very wealthy, and they've got some 287 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: gorgeous six foot blonde they're walking with. Yeah, money, money. 288 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: He puts a glow around you, some money halo, you know. 289 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: In the day or so after the stabbing, all we 290 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: learned about him was he didn't think San Francisco was 291 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: a stable place anymore. He had moved to Florida and 292 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: his marriage ended. 293 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: But this also, in part, is a case of putting 294 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: yourself in play. Right, you know, you're doing a lot 295 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: of drugs, which means you're involved with disreputable people. Right, 296 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: you're carrying on an affair with a married woman, who's 297 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: got a hot headed brother. You're out in San Francisco 298 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: at two in the morning. I mean, people who don't 299 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: do that, People who stay home with their two daughters 300 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: don't end up getting knifed under on a San Francisco street. No, 301 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: you're right, he was playing with fire. Yeah, clearly. 302 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: I don't know how long he knew you know, Nima 303 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: MOMENTI or you know whether he and I think from 304 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: what I read, I think Nima did introduce him to 305 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: the sister at some point and they became involved, maybe 306 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: not romantically, but possibly to party and to use drugs. 307 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: I mean, she's got a super wealthy, plastic surgeon husband 308 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: who probably wasn't around much. 309 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: No, there's a lot of stupid money floating around this story, 310 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: and people are going to have to fill their days. 311 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: Right when all their needs are met, all their desires, 312 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: all their you know, they've achieved all they're going to 313 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: achieve in life. But he started doing But what happened 314 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: with this story? 315 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: We came back to San Francisco and the drug problem anyway, 316 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: didn't we Yeah, maybe it's not a homeless guy lying 317 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: there on the tenderloin passed out from too much fentanyl. 318 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: But it's it's tech exacts simply being involved with drugs 319 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: and city that just is out of control when it 320 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: comes to doing anything about it. And I'm sure that 321 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: National Guard in California Highway Patrol they're gonna put a 322 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: stop to all this any moment now, right. Yeah, it's 323 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: another piece of showcase that Newsome likes to declare. The 324 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: National Guard, the CHP. They're gonna help San Francisco with 325 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: the fentanyl problem. Their information. They're in tanks going down 326 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: the Interstate. 327 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Five right now? Oh, is that right? They're gonna just yeah, 328 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: they're taking over. Yeah, they're just gonna bulldoze these neighborhoods. 329 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: All right, we got more coming up. 330 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: John and Ken KFI eight M six forty were live 331 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 332 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 333 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 334 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: We're on radio from one til four after four. Listen 335 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: to the show John and Gain on demand. It's podcast 336 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: on the iHeart app. Same thing all right. 337 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: In thirty minutes, we'll be talking to Craig Welling. 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One eight seven seven Moist eighty six one 356 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: eight seven seven six six ' four seven eight eight six. 357 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: And now we're very excited to tell you the news 358 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is running again for president. 359 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Here is some wait on you hear it? 360 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: The cheering, I do you have to have screaming years 361 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: to yeah, listen, this isn't really close. The people are 362 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 2: out in the street. 363 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: Okay, here is. 364 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: Part of this exciting message delivered on video. 365 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: Oh what's that? What is this serious music? Yeah? Freedom, 366 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: the personal freedom is fundamental. Who are as Americans? There's 367 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: nothing more important, nothing more sacred. I don't know. 368 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: It's got me charged up here, you think about this. 369 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: I looked this up because I wanted to be as 370 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: exact as I could. Unfortunately, though, I ran into CNN's website. 371 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: But anyway, in twenty twenty, no matter what you thought 372 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: of the outcome, here it is. He got eighty one 373 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: point three million votes. No one's ever gotten that. He 374 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: didn't even campaign. 375 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: Remember he stayed in his base, in his basement, Yeah, 376 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: in his robe. Yeah yeah, yeah. He would do these 377 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: location he got in a bicycle and fell, right, that's right. 378 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: But he would do videos sitting on the couch without pants. 379 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: I didn't see those. Huh yeah, how did you get those? 380 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: I got some weird YouTube channel. I don't know. Oh wow, 381 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's not real, Maybe it's a it's the dark web. 382 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: That that was my feed. Uh yeah, And I mean 383 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: he just did he didn't do anything. They didn't and. 384 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: Because a lot of that was anger over Trump. Oh sure, 385 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: who got seventy four million. Then nobody's ever lost a 386 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: presidential election and gotten that many votes. 387 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: Nobody was ever interested in Joe Biden's president. There's a 388 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: lot of people who may not remember that he ran 389 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: for president back in I think nineteen eighty seven, and they. 390 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: Did the plagiarizing and he got kicked. 391 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: Out of the race because they found he was plagiarizing 392 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: speeches from a British politician. All right, say he was 393 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: a national joke. Joe Biden was a national joke in 394 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: late night monologues in nineteen eighty seven. It was a 395 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: boob and then he ran in. He ran in. 396 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: Did he run when Obama was running eight? 397 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: He might have, but he would come in. He would 398 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: get like one percent of the vote in the first primary, 399 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: and he thought about running in other years as well. 400 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: He would start up a campaign infrastructure and then give 401 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: up because the polling showed he was an asterisk. 402 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, he floated to the top of the ball 403 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: making his way to the vice presidency was a big help. 404 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 405 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people voted for him because they 406 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: just thought, oh, it's an extension of Obama. 407 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: Well, Obama picked him up off the garbage heap because 408 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: he was an old, familiar name, he was a white guy, 409 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: and he was going to balance Obama's inexperience. Like Obama 410 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: knew what his deficits were in terms of public perception 411 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: right that he was the first black candidate. He was 412 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: only a senator for a few years. He hadn't ever 413 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: run anything, wasn't a governor, wasn't a businessman like Trump. 414 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: He was just you know, a local politician basically in Chicago. 415 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: He's in the legislature for seven years I think, or longer. 416 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it was not this big wow in his career, 417 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: and he was. 418 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: Dead in the twenty twenty primaries till he got to 419 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 2: South Carolina. I remember that, and he got a victory 420 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: that night, and that seemed to boost his campaign. You 421 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: know what they're doing in twenty twenty four, they're moving 422 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: up South Carolina's vote because they want to give him 423 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: an early boost. And that was a response to the 424 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: other choices being Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Yes, and 425 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: that was the state where a lot of the registered 426 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: voters loved Obama, the Democrat registered voters, and Biden was 427 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: in the extension of Obama because you know what, that 428 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: helped him a lot. 429 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: They were too far left because South Carolina is heavy 430 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: heavy black voters. Black voters are not as far left 431 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: as the white, woke, wealthy win so they don't like 432 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: these kind of extreme liberal progressive candidates. They like something 433 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: moderate and something moderate and safe. And that's why Biden 434 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly won. He had the great fortune of running against 435 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: horrible Democratic candidates and going up against Trump, who had 436 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: attracted the largest group of people in history who wanted 437 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: to vote against him. That's what happened. 438 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they knew that he was probably The Democrats 439 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: knew Biden was probably the one that could beat Trump 440 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: out of all the ones running, just because he was 441 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: an extension of Obama and the anti Trump people could 442 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: flock to him. 443 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: Now, that brings us to today. 444 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: The latest poll from NBC News, seventy percent of people polled, 445 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: fifty one percent of Democrats do not think Biden should run. 446 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: Oh well, two lady, is. 447 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: The excited percentage of Democrats. 448 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is an exciting twenty two percent, and twenty 449 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: two percent of the people polled the Democrat voters said 450 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: they're excited he's running again twenty two percent. Well, because 451 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: because it's a sixty percent. Don't think Trump should run either, So. 452 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: Right right, We're gonna have two candidates that most people reject, reject. 453 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: This is why I think, and I'm coming full circle, 454 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: that turnout will be nothing like it was in twenty twenty. 455 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: But I just don't think there's there. If it is 456 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: these two, isn't there a vacuum here for somebody? Well 457 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: I hear that every four years, but yes. 458 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: But this is a bigger vacuum than normal. Well, something 459 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson's gonna run. Throw that in there that would 460 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: fill the vacuum. Was something nutty like that. Yeah, Larry 461 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Elder's running, Robert F. Kennedy Junior's running, My god, Mary 462 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: Ann Williamson. We're gonna have to get a big clown car. 463 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: We still don't have DeSantis in the race, so I 464 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: can't declare that. Uh No, this poll has a DeSantis, 465 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: actually a Trump winning over DeSantis forty six thirty one. Yeah, yes, Oh, 466 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: I forgot about pens He's at six percent. 467 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: He got to run a campaign. I don't. I don't 468 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: pre cant. It's too early. Yeah, I want, you know, 469 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: I want to see if the Santa is getting the 470 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: ring with Trump. 471 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 2: No, because hysterical because we get the Trump emails from 472 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: you know, like from the desk of President Trump, and 473 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: it's always about a poll and he's way ahead and 474 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: he's doing great. But you're right, it's too early. It's 475 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: way too early, yeah. 476 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: The poet. 477 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: And by the way, a good percentage of people said 478 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: they would vote for Trump even he's convicted of a crime, 479 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: so oh. 480 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, they're going to vote for Biden. Even 481 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: if a doctor went on national television and said he 482 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: has severe advanced dementia, he is legally senile. He'll still get, 483 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, seventy million votes. And Trump could be convicted 484 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: of a whole range of felonies and he's going to 485 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: get seventy million votes. 486 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: Remember Trump said that I could murder somebody in the 487 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: middle of the street in Manhattan. He was right, and 488 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: I would not go to prison. 489 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: He had. He has an instinct for why people worship him. 490 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: Do you want to hear Biden on age, Well, no, 491 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: it's legitimate for people to raise issues about my age. 492 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: It's totally legitimate to do that. The only thing I 493 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: can say is watch me. Well, we have been watching you. 494 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: That's why we made Bidenville. 495 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: Not his age, it's his dementia. Fauci is I think older, 496 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: but clearly he's still sharp. 497 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think yeah, I think Fauci might be a 498 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: year old. Right. 499 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: So it's you. It's your physical health. It's like Feinstein 500 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: is you know, completely in the bag. 501 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: Because she's eighty nine. 502 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. You and I talked about this years ago. 503 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: Although it can change, you know, is generations eighty five 504 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: is where people really start to fall apart physically. 505 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Most people. Yeah, if you've made it to eighty five. 506 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: But I'm saying this, I said this the other day. 507 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: With so many people living to one hundred, we're seeing 508 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: probably that number move a little bit just because improved 509 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: healthcare and things like that to take care of people 510 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: a right. 511 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: We got more coming up. 512 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty were live everywhere the 513 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 514 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 515 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: I AM sixty. 516 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: You had mentioned this yesterday, so I thought we'd spend 517 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: some time on it. Last Saturday was Earth Day. You 518 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: went nude and you would did you go nude? Forest bathing? 519 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: Is that what I heard? But you are a forest bather. 520 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: You always send me those stories because you love that. 521 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: When people talk about forest bathing, which doesn't literally mean 522 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: you go out there and take a bath with a 523 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: tub in the middle of it, just means you go 524 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 2: out there and take in nature. 525 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: Nature in the nude. Yeah, that's what you. 526 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: No, I don't know if everyone doesn't, that has to 527 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: be a part of it, you knew. 528 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Let me see if there's nude forest bathing. I bet 529 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: you there is. Oh, there is, I know that. 530 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 2: Remember remember that cult that would they would go out 531 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: into the woods or to some high peak and they 532 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: would position themselves over rocks and then tanned their pernimium 533 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: perninium whateverians a little space between your your. 534 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, they would tan themselves. 535 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: They're believing it's rejuvenates. 536 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: Look at this. Here's a story from May twenty sixteen. 537 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: Forest bathing is the latest fitness trend to hit the 538 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: United States. Okay, and a fitness trend. I didn't think 539 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: of it that way, but yeah. This apparently it started 540 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: in Germany in the early nineteen hundreds. 541 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: Does it say nudity though, or is it just about 542 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: walking down? 543 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: Well? A variation came out of Japan. Oh that involved nudity. No, 544 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't think. 545 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: I don't think of the Japanese as nudists. Well, Germans, yes, Europeans, yes, 546 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: But it was. 547 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: It was a small trend. The Washington Post had a piece, 548 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: let me see here, forest bathing is the latest fitness, 549 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: and it came there were a growing number of Americans 550 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: have become followers of a Japanese practice called hinrin yoku, 551 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: coined by the Japanese Ministry of Agriculture Forestream Fisheries. It 552 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 1: means taking in the forest atmosphere forest bathing and you 553 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: walk around with no close. 554 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: So a pair by the name of Paul Greenberg and 555 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: Carl Safina. One of them is a teacher at NYU's 556 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: Animal Studies program and a book The Climate Diet. 557 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: The other is uh Share for the. 558 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: Endowed Research for Nature and Humanity at Stonybrook University. He's 559 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: got a book called Alfie and Me the title of 560 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: this piece, and time time dot com the case for 561 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: making Earth Day a religious holiday, and they were kind 562 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: of serious about this. 563 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, because I have. I've been yelling for 564 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: years how this environmentalism is. Climate change crusade has has 565 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: become religious with these people, and an intolerant religion, a 566 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: fundamentalist religion where there now you know, want to control 567 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: aspects of your life the way any overbearing religion does. Right. 568 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 2: But when they talk about religion here and they talk 569 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: about worship, they're just saying, well, we should worship the earth. 570 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: It's the same thing. We should hold some sort of 571 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: reverence the way people do their God, but their religion. 572 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: But if you create, that's so crazy. If you create 573 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: a religion, though, it gets controlled by the fanatics. Right, 574 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: and then the following is a logical like growing up Catholic. Right, 575 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: they're obsessed with people's sexual sexual practices. Right, No sex 576 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: but before marriage? Why because we say so? Obviously, no 577 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: gay sex except for the priests, you know, no masturbation. 578 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean I remember as a kid they were still 579 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: teaching no masturbation in addition to to no sex before 580 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: marriage and no gay sex. I mean they were no 581 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: on everything except for themselves. Went to Catholic school. 582 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: No, No, the nuns were telling me this stuff. 583 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: Is that what I want on your school? Uh? 584 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: Do you know what it was to me in the 585 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: Catholic in the Catholic family, in the Catholic school. 586 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: You don't talk about this at all. 587 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: That comes up. 588 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Well, that's how strict they were. You don't even talk 589 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: about it, let alone do it. 590 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: Right, But none even walk clapping you on the knuckles, sad, 591 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: No gay sex, no masturbation. You I see where your 592 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: hand is. You make it sound like that's what was 593 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: happening at the school. 594 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: That's why I want all the boys had to had 595 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: to sit in class with their hands over their heads, hands, 596 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: especially in seventh grade. Yep, hands up, no penis. Well, 597 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: the message got through somehow. We all knew it, and 598 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly how we got it. Maybe I 599 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: don't remember my mother and father talking about it. In fact, 600 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: I could tell a hysterical story about my dad and 601 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: I involving this issue, but I can't. 602 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: Oh really, Oh yeah, you mean kind of a facts 603 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: of life discussion. 604 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: Well, how can I word this? I've never heard this before. Well, 605 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: of course it's not something I can I can tell 606 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: on the air, you know, and bluntlet I never even 607 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: told me off the air. 608 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: I got the pluncher story out of you off the 609 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: air years ago, but I never heard anything about change 610 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: conversation between you and your dad about. 611 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: Let me word this carefully. I was taking a bath 612 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: or a shower, right, maybe twelve years old. I went 613 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: back to my bedroom to dry off, and I lay 614 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: down on the bed, and why do I know what 615 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: comes next? There was some movement on the bed. 616 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, oh yeah, well, okay, you were just discovering yourself. 617 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: It's right. I went on a discover journey of discovery. 618 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: It was like it was like the Japanese going into 619 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: the forest naked. Okay, I went on a little. I 620 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: went on a little getting the picture, yes, and and 621 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: something was not that I want to get the picture. 622 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: But but thanks seric in case it was any doubt. Okay, 623 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: something was produced. Okay, oh got that too. I didn't 624 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: know what it was. Okay. I was really a naive, 625 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: sheltered little child, right, okay, right, you were frightened, well 626 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: a little bit confused. I didn't know what it was. 627 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: So what do you do? It's like a young girl 628 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: having her first period. Sure, sure, this is more embarrassing 629 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 1: for a guy. Mothers teach their their daughters about that, right, 630 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: because you know that that that that that's a that's 631 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: a really big event and that could be really that 632 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: could be very shocking, right, Okay, So I've got this 633 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: this this issue here. So I walk over to talk 634 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: to my dad. Uh, and he's in the kitchen washing 635 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: the dishes, wearing an apron. Okay, that's another great image, right, 636 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: So these usual right, So he's like scrubbing a dish 637 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: and he looks over at me and I I don't 638 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: I think I just had a towel around me. And 639 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: I tried to explain what happened and he and he 640 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: looks at me and goes, oh, you're a man now. 641 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: Oh that was it. Well that was one way to 642 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: explain it. I went back to my room with no 643 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: real enlightenment. So what happened? I see that, But I 644 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: crossed a big barrier in life? Were now a man? 645 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't seem impressed, capable of reproductions. He 646 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: went back to scrubbing the dish. It was all very 647 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: nonchalant and oh you're a man now. 648 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 2: And then see the image in like a sitcom ra 649 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: movie with wearing the apron apron we get back to 650 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 2: scrubbing this pot. 651 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's why I am the way I am. 652 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, did you go read a book or something, 653 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: because that's what I mean. You can find this stuff out. 654 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: When about that time we got the encyclopedia set. Yeah, 655 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: I think for that Christmas, and I learned everything then. 656 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: I just I told you this. 657 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: My mother was not big on talking about this or 658 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: my father. And my mother bought that book. Remember it 659 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: everything you always wanted to know about sex but were 660 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: afraid to ask? 661 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: Do you remember that book? Yes? She bought that book. 662 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 2: And I discovered she had it. I go in there 663 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 2: and secretly read it when she didn't know. We probably 664 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: wanted that that would make it easier. She didn't have 665 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 2: to answer all the questions. 666 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: Would she'd buy that for you for your dad? 667 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: So she bought that for herself so she could talk 668 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: to us about all my questions about She wanted some 669 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 2: sort of guidance I guess from the from the modern world. 670 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 2: I don't know how else to put it. And uh, yeah, 671 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: we all found that book all, I think. 672 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: All five of us. Oh, you all passed it around. 673 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: I think. 674 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: No, we did not read it together, but we all 675 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: kind of knew where it was and in their bedroom, 676 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: and we kind of snuck it read a few chapters 677 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 2: to see what was going on. 678 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: Things are a little more open. 679 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: Now, all right, Well, we didn't get to this cult 680 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: religious story about Earth Day. But I actually preferred your 681 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 2: dad's story a lot better. 682 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: Well, we can do it another time, Discovery. 683 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, Well, we're gonna have 684 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: an interview with Craig Welling. Craig Welling is the father 685 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: of Wesley Welling. Wesley Welling was the fifteen year old 686 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: teen who was run down in Thousand Oaks outside of 687 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: Westlake High School. Big story last week. Seems like a 688 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: homeless man from what we understand, stabbed an employee at 689 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: Walmart and seem Valley, who went to his family home 690 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: in Camerio. Gotten some problem there, they called the police. 691 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: He got in his car, he drove to this school, Westlake. 692 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: He went to west Lake High School, apparently graduating in 693 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, and just decided to run over these teens. 694 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk to Craig Welling next. Johnny Ken, 695 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: CAFI AM six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 696 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: And in for Debora Mark, Mark Runner live in the 697 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: twenty four hour Cafe Newsroom. 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