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Speaker 1: College Football Apostles is hit. I'm your boy, George Reister,

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Speaker 1: former NFL player, college football player in college football analyst

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Speaker 1: for c W, my main man Ralph Amden here as

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Speaker 1: well college football samant, regular rain man and man that

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Speaker 1: is going to be bringing you some stories about things

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Speaker 1: in the world pretty soon as well, like the stuff

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Speaker 1: down in the weeds that you're like, how did you

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Speaker 1: find this sort of thing out? But we got a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about today, more coaches getting fired, people

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Speaker 1: fa fo in, weird stories that Ralph finds for us

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Speaker 1: to talk about as well. But we always start actually first,

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Speaker 1: make sure that you like, subscribe, get notifications, tell a

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Speaker 1: friend about the show. But we're gonna start where we

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Speaker 1: always start at. Usually most of the time is with

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Speaker 1: our biggest takeaways from last week, Ralph Europe.

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Speaker 2: I just the fact that there's nothing like college football

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Speaker 2: we had. I was up bright and early for me

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Speaker 2: because usually I'm up till four or five in the

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Speaker 2: morning on Fridays doing like a high school football roundup.

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Speaker 2: I get up to and I specifically get up to

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Speaker 2: see the James Franklin interview on College Game Day.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we'd have to talk about that is

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Speaker 1: that is that on the list of day because I

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Speaker 2: Figured you were going to pi back off it. I

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Speaker 2: figure you're gonna piggyback off it right out the gate.

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Speaker 2: But I'm sitting there and I'm watching James Franklin and

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban have this super compelling conversation. I mean, and

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Speaker 2: to me, to the people who love college football, this

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Speaker 2: is like this is like you know, r Kelly sitting

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Speaker 2: down with Gail King, or like, you know, like any

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Speaker 2: of these interview moments when when Barbara Walters has somebody

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Speaker 2: you know that's big in the news or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're I'm sitting there and I'm completely captivated by the

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Speaker 2: fact that James Franklin just got fired and he's sitting

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Speaker 2: down in Athens on the college game day set saying

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Speaker 2: that he's going to go win a national championship somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: And well, that's what I'm gon get to. It's like

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Speaker 2: it's emotional but not really not real emotions. And I

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Speaker 2: know you're going to talk about that, but like, it's emotional,

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Speaker 2: but it's not necessarily real emotions. And then the most

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Speaker 2: compelling man on TV who's great at everything he does,

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban takes a minute to set James Franklin up

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Speaker 2: to say, you know, was this fair? And James Franklin like, well,

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Speaker 2: that's not for me to say, and and Nick Saban's like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you it was unfair. And you know, they

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Speaker 2: just have this incredible moment. Whether you believe you know

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Speaker 2: it was a good moment, bad moment, disingenuous or whatever,

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Speaker 2: it was incredible. It was captivating. And you look past

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Speaker 2: James Franklin's face, like the seriousness and the sternness and

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Speaker 2: the sullenness and everything from that in the in the

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Speaker 2: past week is all just on his face, whether he's

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Speaker 2: letting it show actively or not. And in the back

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Speaker 2: is just this giant sign that says Jackson fart Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and they're holding it up right next to his face.

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Speaker 2: That was supposed to be taking this man seriously, and

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Speaker 2: this is the giant word fart is next to his face.

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Speaker 2: For the entirety of this interview, I was just I

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Speaker 2: was like soaked in gratitude with how much I love

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Speaker 2: this ridiculous, ridiculous sport. It's not the only there was

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Speaker 2: a million moments like that last week, but that was

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Speaker 1: So let me start by saying, I do believe James

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Speaker 1: Franklin should be a head coach somewhere next year at

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Speaker 1: a big time university. I think he's a he's a like.

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Speaker 1: He's proven himself that he's a winner, So let me

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Speaker 1: get that out of the way. And I do believe

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Speaker 1: that he is a consistent person. I had three main

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Speaker 1: takeaways from James Franklin on game day. Number one, he

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Speaker 1: he probably has a decent idea what are his options,

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Speaker 1: and that this was his moment to come up there

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Speaker 1: I am James Franklin. I should be the leader of

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Speaker 1: your program. Number two, getting fired may have been the

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Speaker 1: best thing that gets him out of his conservative ways,

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Speaker 1: at hiring offensive coordinators. He is a defensive and I'm

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Speaker 1: They Penn State always plays big games on defense, like

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Speaker 1: That's why you never see outlier results in their favor

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Speaker 1: So that was my second takeaway. Third thing is, and

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Speaker 1: this is not an indictment on his personality, on his

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Speaker 1: on you know, his whether he's a genuine person or anything,

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Speaker 1: but he sounds like a politician because everything sounds rehearsed.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a canned answer. Like Ralph, he always

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Speaker 1: says what the optimal thing to say in that situation is,

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Speaker 1: Like he never is like, hey man, we're not good

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Speaker 1: pick this, this and this up or the or the Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not gonna happen, so quit asking, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, he's not he never says

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Speaker 1: the thing that's not buttoned up and that it's almost

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Speaker 1: like Ralph, if you met a person, how long have

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Speaker 1: you and Aaron been married?

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Speaker 2: Twenty years? In May.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've been married over a decade, and so if

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Speaker 1: you had been If you meet somebody and they say,

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Speaker 1: we've been married for twenty years and we've never had

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Speaker 1: an argument or we've never had a big fight, what

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Speaker 2: Thinking you're not married.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, either you're not married, or you're lying, or you

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Speaker 1: guys are playing pretend, and that there's really some deep

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Speaker 1: time and they're gonna be like, I've been feeling.

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Speaker 2: This rich one of years, Bro, I had to fight

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Speaker 2: today about whether or not we were fighting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that that is. And you can be happily

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Speaker 1: never says this thing. That is, he never says anything.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be controversial, but he never even

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Speaker 1: taken out of context. It is like he rehearses every

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Speaker 1: single answer. It is like a AI calculator in his brain. Oh,

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Speaker 1: what is the optimal thing to say right right now?

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Speaker 1: And that bugs me. It scares me, honestly.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying, is like he is like AI to

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Speaker 2: where like yeah, like it looks real, but it could

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Speaker 2: never like make a fire, you know, like there's there's

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Speaker 2: this final state. I don't know, man, I've seen some

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Speaker 2: the future of our species because I'm like the audio timeline.

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Speaker 1: That is the that is the issue that may be

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Speaker 1: why he can't win the Big Game is because he

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Speaker 1: can't make a fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's I don't know, man, but I just

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Speaker 2: all I know is uh. It was very very funny

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Speaker 2: to see him be sincere or insincere in the best

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Speaker 2: optimal way as you're as you're saying, and then to

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Speaker 2: play partner standing up against the and it's supposed to

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Speaker 2: say big ten Saturday, the covering up the essay and

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Speaker 2: and the a y on the ends. So it just

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Speaker 2: big turd.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Oh I love that. At first, I wonder at

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Speaker 1: what point in time, I wonder if somebody in the

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Speaker 1: truck was like, Yo, do you realize what this says?

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Speaker 1: And it's probably like a lower level stafford that's like,

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Speaker 1: hey up, I know we can't move them now, but

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Speaker 1: you know somebody in the truck is over there, and

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Speaker 2: Like hey, oh man, I love this sport.

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Speaker 1: Yes, dude. This season is making me fall in love

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Speaker 1: with college football all over again. So my biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: for this last week was a lot of these head

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Speaker 1: State Florida. If Florida doesn't get Lane Kiffin, they're going

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Speaker 1: to figure out that their brand is not as big

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Speaker 1: it is because and it's not that they're not a

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Speaker 1: blue blood none of this stuff. It's just that times

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Speaker 1: have changed, buddy. And some of the best I made

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Speaker 1: assured about it that some of the best coaching guys

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Speaker 1: reason believe that Clark Lee, who's out here talking greasy

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Speaker 1: Like you can leave San Jose State and take the

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Speaker 1: Nobody if you leave Vanderbilt to go to Penn State,

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Speaker 1: you leave Vanderbilt to go to Florida, you might have

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Speaker 1: Brent Key at Georgia Tech, things are going swimmingly there

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Speaker 1: for him as well. You think he's gonna leave there

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Speaker 1: and walk over to Florida. I don't believe so he.

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Speaker 2: I think he loves that university. Yes, And as much

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Speaker 2: as people talk about some of these other guys, I

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Speaker 2: think Brent Key he was a.

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Speaker 1: My men don't even hop in the portal very much.

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Speaker 1: You think because they're stable people, they don't just jump

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Speaker 1: around like that. They are loyal. That's why Mario Cristobaul

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then Jeff Brom, you think he's leaving Louisville. He

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Speaker 1: left PURDUEA oh, that's one, Ralph. Jeff Brom left Purdue

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Speaker 2: Working out, Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: And you think he's gonna leave his alma mater, who

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Speaker 1: who who? He's got sway with the with the the

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Speaker 1: people at the school. He's a son of the school.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get so much more leeway than other coaches are.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna leave and take the Florida, the Penn State,

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Speaker 1: the UCLA, Virginia Tech, the Oklahoma State, the UA B,

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Speaker 1: The answer is no.

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Speaker 2: And they got money there too, like they'll figure out

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Speaker 2: a way to keep him.

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Speaker 1: And the question is that everybody keeps talking about, we

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Speaker 1: are in this mister steal your coach economy, this Tray

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Speaker 1: Song's coach economy, where let's go steal Dan Lanning, let's

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Speaker 1: go steal Marcus Smith, Let's go steal Jeff browm let's

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Speaker 1: go steal this guy. Ralph. I was trying to think

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Speaker 1: of how many times that that has ever worked. I

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Speaker 1: want you guys get hop into comments. Tell us when

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Speaker 1: have you outside of Jeff Bram that I just mentioned

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Speaker 1: where he went from Purdue to Louisville. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: How State fans are responding to potentially Fran Brown being there,

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Speaker 2: I mean you got rhtt Lashley got the SMU job

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Speaker 2: That's a really important thing to remember is that lower

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Speaker 1: Yep. And the lower level staffers are the ones that are,

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Speaker 2: And when you hire from when you hire from a

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think you stumbled onto something

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Speaker 1: One hundred. All right, let's get to the story lines

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Speaker 2: They finally listen to you, George, Florida, even after a

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Speaker 2: Billy Napier, I think losing record in his time there

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Speaker 1: appearance here and there, don't think that. I think that

434
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Speaker 1: stuff like him posting the the pilates instructors on game day,

435
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: he knew what he was doing, like he was just

436
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: joking around and having a good time and having fun.

437
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: Mind you, there's nothing wrong with that, but also it's

438
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: just a it ain't necessarily what you're looking for. If that,

439
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, like championship coaches don't typically do

440
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: things like that, that's all that. That's all I'm saying

441
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: that there's always gonna be you know, a little meat

442
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: on the bone left with Lane. I think I think

443
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna get ten wins a season, probably well in

444
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: between nine and eleven wins a season and you know,

445
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: and it'll be good. But then they're gonna be upset

446
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: because he hadn't won a national championship. And but but

447
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: I do believe that he raises the floora there. But

448
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: if he decides, and he's also he feels like a

449
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: coastal guy to me. But his family is finally all

450
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: back back together after he ripped that apart. So he

451
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: might be happy in Oxford. But if he but if

452
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 1: they don't get him at Florida, I think will Stein

453
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: is a dude who would work great at Florida, even

454
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: though he's kind of a Texas mid Midwest guy. I

455
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: would like him there, like you might be able to

456
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: get some some good action out of Georgia's defensive coordinator

457
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: again Alabama's wide wide receiver coach. It used to be

458
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: at Washington. But I questioned a little bit because he

459
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: hasn't really been a part of any like top tier defenses,

460
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: and I think that that's important. Yeah, so I do

461
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: think that there are some options, but I do think

462
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: for Florida lane Kip it might be the best option,

463
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: even though that that's hypocritical, too cool to what I

464
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: said earlier, I got.

465
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: A name for you, who Brian Kelly.

466
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me, tell me why Ralph please. I'm not

467
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: saying that that's it, just like I was just so

468
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: overwhelmed by the by the thought of that that I

469
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: couldn't even like fully, I need to understand what you mean.

470
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: Is he a good coach, Yes, it's proven right, he's

471
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: a good coach yep. Is he an asshole? Yes, that's

472
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: what they need. The only the only hiccup I'd have

473
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: with with that, And like Florida fans just have to

474
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: accept that that's who you are. Like you need, you

475
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: need a villain in charge. Urban Meyer might have been

476
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: like evangelical, said all the right things on the surface, but.

477
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you finish that that thought. I got

478
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: another name, Okay, all.

479
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: Right, I'm just saying, like you, if you accept we're

480
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: the villains, we're gonna bring in a guy who is

481
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: gonna have us at a floor eight wins. That's gonna

482
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: be the floor. And then you know, if he can

483
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: get the right staff around him and we can move

484
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: fast and break things and just be the past, be

485
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: the jerk in the sec because I think at LSU

486
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: it's like there's some expectation that you fit the culture

487
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: there and he doesn't. And they're already talking about getting

488
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: rid of him. And it's not like they might want

489
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: to get rid of him if they finished ten and two.

490
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: So you get a fresh start. You know, he's driven,

491
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: you know he wants to prove people wrong. You know

492
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: he's pissed off. And you don't have to be some

493
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: fake version of yourself to be an old white man

494
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: in Florida. That's what Florida is. Yeah, it's old white

495
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: man heaven. And so I don't know. I think that

496
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: if you want somebody who is going to keep you

497
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: from having seven and six seasons you never see seven

498
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: and six again, then Brian Kelly would be a guy

499
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: to bring in. But it's not palatable. It's not supposed

500
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: to it's supposed to feel gross. That's Florida. You wanted

501
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: to feel swampy.

502
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: It does feel swampy. Okay, So how about Brian Hartline.

503
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: That could be really good, Okay, Or it could be

504
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: really good. I think there'd be a level of paranoia

505
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: that they're going to lose.

506
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: Him, okay, Or I got another one for you. Bryant Haynes.

507
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: Okay, explain to me why.

508
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: Indiana defensive coordinator.

509
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: He's been He's been good, He's been real good.

510
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a good leader, he's a good recruiter. And

511
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: then also Kurt sits like Netty can't do it without him.

512
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: You're trying to take out in the football his his

513
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: experience in the South is relegated to the two years

514
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: that he was on the north side of North Carolina.

515
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: And hey, hey, so m hm, I'm just telling you

516
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: maybe Al Golden.

517
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 2: Al Golden, former Miami coach Al Golden.

518
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got he's got some Marcus Freeman juice on him.

519
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: That sounds weird.

520
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: That pause, terrible rephrase.

521
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: Rewind he's got Marcus Freeman or on him.

522
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: There we go sort of.

523
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: You could probably give a Pete Kowski he's got to

524
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: be up there.

525
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: Do you think he wants to be a head coach?

526
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: Could I get I get this all the time. Why

527
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: is he not already a head coach?

528
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

529
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: Probably because he is so good at his job.

530
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe Tim Tim Banks at Tennessee.

531
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been good, he's been good. They have personnel

532
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: issues this year. They graduated. I think a little bit

533
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: too much and I think people are starting to try

534
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: to figure him out. But you know, are you hiring

535
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: somebody to run that side of the ball as well?

536
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: No, you're to one the money to coach the coaches

537
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: like that. You need a leader of men, that's what

538
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: you need who has competency on one side of the ball.

539
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley. I'm gonna throw his name out for every

540
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: single opening, Dude.

541
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: I keep hearing names from people throwing stuff out to me. Uh,

542
00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, what, No, what are we doing? No?

543
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: I think he he's got a Peter principle because I

544
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: don't think he's a I don't think he's a leader

545
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: of man. I think he's a very very good coach.

546
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: I think he's a good coach of a few men.

547
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: But I don't think in my in my time rooting

548
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: for the Arizona Cardinals, I don't think he's the type

549
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: of guy that could hold hold a star player accountable.

550
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: I really don't.

551
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: Or I got one more option for you, San Diego

552
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: State's head.

553
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: Coach, Ah, yeah, yeah, Sean Lewis. Yes, they're starting to

554
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: have some success.

555
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: Mm hm mm hmmm, just saying bro it, it's some

556
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: of these things are so easy to me because people

557
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 1: but but people want to win the press conference, all right?

558
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: So that all right? Yep? So next up on a

559
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: smaller scale, I think one of his former co workers

560
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 2: at Arizona State, Jane Rvell, also fired by Colorado State.

561
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: This is one of the better jobs. Like they have

562
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: money in Fort Collins, but they want you to they

563
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: want you to do something with it right now. And

564
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: so you know, this isn't like throw around money. This

565
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: is like, hey, we gathered everything we got, We're gonna

566
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: give it to you. Please get us a return. Colorado

567
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: State I think could be a very very good stepping

568
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: stone job. I wonder because you mentioned will Stein for

569
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: a job, Like you know, do you think somebody who

570
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: is a big ten level offensive a defensive coordinator holds

571
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: out for the biggest job or do you think they

572
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: look at Kurt Signetti and they realize, like, oh, we

573
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: can go down to a lower level, have a lot

574
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: more control over our situation and maybe prove this out

575
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: over time. Like do you think Kurt Signetti set a

576
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: new model for some of these really high named coordinators

577
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: to go because I mean, you've had it happen before,

578
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: and I think there is higher profile than they were

579
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: a few years ago. But you had Abolos take a

580
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: job and you had Marcus Arroyo take a job and

581
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: it didn't work out for either one. I'm just curious,

582
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: would do you think a guy like will Steiny.

583
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: Like what I up first and then went to James Madison.

584
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: I think that you're going that that you have to

585
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: get some buzz surrounding your name, which is which is unfortunate,

586
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: but you but you do like you got to be

587
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: in the know and in the right circles, have the

588
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: right agent now to get a job, and that kind

589
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: of sucks. So I do believe that going to a

590
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: Colorado State is a smart move for a lot of uh,

591
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, for a lot of people, because you're gonna

592
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: get a chance to learn on the job but also

593
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: get made your experience. And Colorado State's a place that

594
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: can be like Memphis. Think about Memphis' last couple runs

595
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: that coaches. You have Brent Pride, right, Mike Norvel, no yeah, yea.

596
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Mike and Ryan Silverfield.

597
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: Because they're both were Virginia Tech. Yeah, justin Flinte. Mike Novel,

598
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: now Ryan sil Silverfield, Like they're like Memphis is a

599
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: program that hasn't dropped off despite changing.

600
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: Head coaches is the Boise State of the South.

601
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: Yes, same thing with Boise State, Like they've been able

602
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: to maintain their relevance and everything else despite coaching changes.

603
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: Colorado State can do the exact same thing. It can

604
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: be a place where you know that you get a

605
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: coach and you know he's gonna bounce after a while,

606
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: but he'll leave the program in tip top shape and

607
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: the next guy will be able to come in and

608
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: do the exact same thing. Yeah. I mean, I just

609
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: at least Jay Norvel won't have to talk about Dion

610
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: any anymore. He'll probably be happy about that.

611
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: I gotta Colorado State name for you, uh to say,

612
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: to save him from himself and sticking around too long

613
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: to where he's no longer the hero. Jerry new heisl.

614
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he's staying put at u c l

615
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: A bro. He's staying put.

616
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: But not not in a position of influence right, Like,

617
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: I really worry if he's gonna.

618
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: Stay it or no he will. I believe that if

619
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: they win one more game, well sorry, if they win

620
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: two out of the next five, Tim Skipper's getting a

621
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: head coaching job. And it is no question who his

622
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: opfensive coordinator is going to be.

623
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: Oh, you think they'll give Skipper the gig at.

624
00:37:54,680 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they have five more games. They play Indiana, Nebraska, Ohio, State,

625
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: Washington and then USC.

626
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: I want Tim Skipper to I want Tim Skipper to

627
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: leave U c l A and go into business for

628
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: himself as a full time interim head coach. That's what

629
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: I want. I want him to have like a group

630
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: of guys that that are like the cast of Armageddon,

631
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: like when you need somebody to plan a nuke on

632
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: a on a on a media. He's got a group

633
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: of guys that he's ready to call, like they're just

634
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: in a warehouse somewhere. One guy's like off playing poker professionally,

635
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: and he calls, gets the whole gang together. And then

636
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: if somebody fires their coach, he's got to show it.

637
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Like hey, hey, yo, hey yo, we need another guy. Yeah.

638
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: That's if I want you. I want Tim Skipper to

639
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: be that. Like I want him to just like be

640
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: ready to go be the interim coach.

641
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: And when he shows up at his most important guy's like, yo,

642
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm out of the game. I don't want to do it.

643
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: He yo, hey yo, I mean I mean what about Diane?

644
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: Wait that Diane's gonna be beat her? I mean no, no,

645
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: you know you do it if you don't want want

646
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: want to? Hey man, I try and then walking way

647
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait dude, when did you say that?

648
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: What did you say the bag was?

649
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: Again? Yeah? Exactly, yeah, Yeah.

650
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be incredible? Like just Tim Skippers knock around us?

651
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: Which casinos did you say to? Those are Terry Bennedict's casinos?

652
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: I do?

653
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: I want that for Tim Skipper. I want him to

654
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: just have like a crew that he gets together every

655
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: single year and then all of a sudden, it's like

656
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: A and M fires their coach three games into the

657
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: season and Tim Skipper comes in there. He's able to

658
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: rally the troops and like salvage it, and then he

659
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: just fades off into the sunset. You don't see him

660
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: for another eighteen months. Is got to be huge. Yeah,

661
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: what like you want him to be, like to get

662
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: a call from ad and then to be like, all right,

663
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: what's the score?

664
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Speaker 1: I like it? I like it. I'm not mad at that.

665
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: All right, So some coaches got fired this week. Some

666
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: coaches got athletic directors statements, including Luke Fickle at Wisconsin

667
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: and Mike Norfell at Florida State. Hugh Freeze at Auburn

668
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: actually came out and asked for a statement please, he said, really,

669
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: it'd be real cool if my ID also had something

670
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: to say. Clearly, all three of these coaches are as

671
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: much on the chopping block as you can possibly be.

672
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: What's your take on on on these AD statements, George?

673
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: Why are these teams waiting?

674
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: I believe that Wisconsin's AD actually meet. He's the one

675
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: who means it, between him and Norvel. If Norvel loses

676
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: to wake Forest this this this week, they are gonna

677
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: start counting money, like pulling money from from a cushions

678
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: because fifty five million dollars plus and now now we

679
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: don't know the full buyout structure yet, I don't think,

680
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: but fifty five million dollars for Norvelle when when they

681
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: gave him that extension, I couldn't even understand why, Like

682
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, he's not gonna leave for Alabama?

683
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Like stop just handing out money?

684
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: And if and if you leave, cool bye bye. If

685
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: if if you're that desperate, then then you weren't gonna

686
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: stay here anyway. So by so for yeah, so for

687
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle, I believe that Wisconsin is saying we hired

688
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: the right guy, we have not given him the resources

689
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: necessary to be successful. His head, his quarterbacks have been

690
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: absolutely devastated the last like his Yeah, he lost his

691
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: starting quarterback two years in a row, and it's gonna

692
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: be tough to win like that. So and under resourced

693
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: and underfunded. Yeah. I like their philosophy, and all right, Louke,

694
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: all right, cool man, We still but believe in you.

695
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: You will be back next year, but we're gonna resource

696
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: you and then we're gonna see what you're really made

697
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: out of. And if you can't get us six or

698
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: seven wins next year, then you know, and if your

699
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: quarterback gets hurt again, maybe you're just bad luck and

700
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: we need to find somebody else.

701
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. What I don't love for Wisconsin football is being

702
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: dependent on their quarterbacks health when they were relevant for

703
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: such a long time. You know, un be one one

704
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: Wisconsin quarterback ever like Scott Tolzin. I can name all

705
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: their running backs, I can name all their left tackles,

706
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: but like it's like he's gotten them outside their identity.

707
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: And I see all these complaints online of like he

708
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: no showed or wouldn't promise to show up to some

709
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: booster events. He has no relationship with high school coaches.

710
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: I think things are really really bad in Wisconsin. But

711
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: but you might be right, maybe they're sincere. I will

712
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: say that the Florida State statement sounds like like like

713
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: that behind the scenes, the athletic director is committing extortion

714
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: on the boosters to be like, Hey, if you guys

715
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: don't pony up this money, I'm going to extend Mike Norville. Yeah,

716
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: like you you don't think I will watch me issue

717
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: this statement saying that he's around until the end of

718
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: the year. You want me to issue a statement saying

719
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: that he'll be back next something about it.

720
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Speaker 1: They are owing for an ACC play. They have not

721
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: won an ACC game since twenty twenty three. They still

722
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: have Wake Forest at Clemson, Virginia Tech, NC State, and

723
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: Florida left Ralph. How many games will they win?

724
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: I think two or three. I definitely think he's lost

725
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: the locker room. I don't think the players take him seriously.

726
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: I think he's got a lot of dudes who did

727
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: not handle becoming wealthy or wealthy relatively well off in college.

728
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: I think the energy of a guy like Castianos is

729
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: very important for that team. But I think for the

730
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: most part, you had a lot of guys that were

731
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 2: on a thirteen and oh squad that came back got

732
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: nil money and just aren't I'm not a big believer

733
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: in blaming the players, but the truth of the matter is,

734
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: and you know this to be true, George, there's a

735
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: lot of guys out there who feel like they win

736
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 2: that l check hit a real relief in the pressure

737
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: that they put on themselves to succeed. And I think

738
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: Mike Norvell has been having a real uphill battle. And

739
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: I noticed this, Like I go to ACC media day

740
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: and I see the guys that show off to represent

741
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: the team, and they got on like the most iced

742
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: out chains I've ever seen in my entire life. You know,

743
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: coming back off a squad that didn't get any penetration,

744
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: You've got a defensive tackle out there with like the biggest,

745
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: brightest chain I've ever seen, And so you know, it's

746
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: just I do think that there's a lot of guys

747
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: at Florida State who aren't hungry because they got fed

748
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: and that's not a great place to be in the

749
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: current atmosphere of because you're not a pro yet and

750
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: so you can't handle the perks of being a pro

751
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: in Tallahassee. You know, there's a lot of losers in

752
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: the NFL who cash checks every week.

753
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 1: Yes, that is very very true. That is very very true.

754
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I look at this situation and I'm like,

755
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: I on the Mike Norvel's situation, I just don't think that.

756
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: It feels like he's not going to be able to

757
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: solve it, you know what I mean.

758
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's.

759
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: All because he went to payday loan route. They portaled

760
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: everybody in the year they went thirteen and know they

761
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: were like, ooh, that'll work again. False. And then they

762
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: were like, it'll work again. We just got the wrong guys.

763
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: No high school recruit your asshole feel holes in the

764
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: portal develop that's the actual recipe for way.

765
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: Well, let's move on from people who are losing to

766
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: people who are winning. Let's talk about our updated Heisman outlook.

767
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: Ye this week, I think that Diego Pavia made a huge,

768
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: huge splash. But I have a question for you, George,

769
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: can Diego Pavia win a Heisman in a year where

770
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: Alabama keeps winning, is it even possible for Diego Pavia

771
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: to win a Heisman if Alabama doesn't fumble the bag

772
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: in some way?

773
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: One, Yes, I do not believe that Ty Simpson is

774
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: even should even be the Heisman leader right now. I

775
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: believe Fernando Mendoza and then Diego Pavia should be the

776
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: Heisman top two right right now. If Vanderbilt keeps winning,

777
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: I believe that you're going to that the growing sentiment

778
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: surrounding the Heisman Trophy. And if I were Vanderbilt, this

779
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: would be my messaging that I am getting out because

780
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: they still got Missouri. If they beat Missouri, then beat Texas, Auburn, Kentucky,

781
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: even if they lose Tennessee at the end. But if

782
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: they go five and oh to end the season and

783
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: finish eleven and one, he's doing more with less. My

784
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: messaging would would be, this is the ultimate underdog story.

785
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: You can you can vote for the dude who and

786
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: and even though that this is not Ty Simpson's story,

787
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: this is I mean like you can vote for the

788
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: guy who who arrived on third base, or you can

789
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: vote for the guy who pulled itself up by his bootstraps.

790
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: He went, I would make this a legacy award, like

791
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: Ron Dain got started off at a Juco, goes to

792
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: New Mexico, then goes to Vanderbilt. Nobody wants to be

793
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: a Vandabin. You can't win at Vanderbilt. Oh he's winning

794
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: at vanderber beats Alabama first time in forty years, and

795
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: then this year takes a team to ten and two

796
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: and to the SEC Championship game. What are you gonna say? Hmmm,

797
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: I would make this a legacy award and not a

798
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: just a single season award. Then I think he gets votes?

799
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I just I wonder if if

800
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: if ty Simpson keeps playing the way he's playing right now,

801
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: It just makes me wonder if because they had that

802
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: head to head, if people would still vote Pavia over.

803
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: Poppy didn't didn't play bad in the in the Uh no,

804
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: he didn't know you can be like he did. Simpson

805
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: ghost and he goes toe to toe with the big

806
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: bad giant like he's David.

807
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, he's the best. He's absolutely the best. It's

808
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: just that Ty Simpson is not making him any they

809
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 2: keep winning.

810
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start Kim campaigning for him.

811
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: It feels like what it feels like is rooting for

812
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: Phil Micholson against Tiger Woods.

813
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: Though, oh god no, because it's like, yeah, no, I

814
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: would never Yeah it does, No, it doesn't. How could you.

815
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't even understand how people like Phil Phil Micholson, lefty,

816
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: come on now, nothing about it? Yes, I never understood it.

817
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, he ain't like do you know how many golfers?

818
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: But he was number two in the world for Phil Mickelson.

819
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: But he was number two in the world and he

820
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: was playing the If Tiger didn't exist, he would have

821
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 2: been the number one player in the world over like

822
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: a five.

823
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: Underdog, and there's nothing about him as an underdog.

824
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well, I see what you're saying. I'm just

825
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: saying that, like Tiger Woods never messed up well when

826
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: he was healthy on the golf course. I'm just saying, like,

827
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 2: how can you how can you pass somebody who doesn't

828
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: make mistakes? It's tough. And I get some people support the.

829
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: Florida State, which is going to be the worst loss

830
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: in the Sea.

831
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in the same way that you point out

832
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: how Diego Pavia played against Alabama, That's how Ty Simpson

833
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: played against Florida State, like it wasn't that bad. But

834
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: it'll be funny when people justify giving a vote to

835
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: Diego Pavia because Vanderbilt has a better loss, but the

836
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: loss is to the guy that they're voting against. All Right, So, George,

837
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: my other question for you is, do I get to

838
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: start calling myself a quarterback guru if at the end

839
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: of the year, on the Heisman stage Fernando Mendoza and

840
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: Brendan Sowersby are both there. Okay, the fact that you

841
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: even have to think about this is very funny. The

842
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: answer should be no. I'm a five eight white dude

843
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 2: in mint Hill, North Carolina who never played quarterback.

844
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: At this point, we're gonna see, yes, it is quarterback spotter.

845
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: Like Ralph knows quarterback talent when he sees it. I mean, dude,

846
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: I have I mean the The only one that he

847
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: probably missed on that I'm very surprised was that when

848
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: when I was telling him how good Josh Allen was

849
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna be, and he did not even believe it. Of

850
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: his of his Wyoming Cowboys, Ralph, I don't know how

851
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: you possibly could have thought that that Josh Allen was

852
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: a I think your quote was a running back playing quarterback.

853
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: I think, and you said that that you you don't

854
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: go from being this inaccurate to being accurate. He is

855
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: going to be an NFL bust and a bum and

856
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: and and then me making up a Twitter account to

857
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: then defend him like how how did how did you

858
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: miss that badly?

859
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: On?

860
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen?

861
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: This is the problem with you, you and me looking

862
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: like is sometimes you forget which one of us is

863
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: which Oh my gosh, those things.

864
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: By that John's the biggest swing and miss of all time.

865
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: But Ralph has given me Rock Party, who who I

866
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: was a fan of in college. But I didn't think

867
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: he was gonna be good. I thought it would be

868
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: a good backup in the pros. I didn't think it

869
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: was gonna be good. Josh Allen, he's giving me Demand Williams.

870
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: He has been right about Dylan Ryola. Who else.

871
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: I would, Yeah, Fernando's up there. And then Brendan Sosby, Yeah,

872
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: Brendon Soresby going into the Arizona State game last year

873
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: when Cincinnati was like I don't know three and two

874
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: or something like that. I got on my on my

875
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: ASU podcast and I was like, guys, We're going up

876
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: against an NFL quarterback and people were like, no, that's ridiculous,

877
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, no, you just don't see the vision.

878
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: I will tell you. I do have one swing and

879
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: miss is my first ever quarterback that I like got

880
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: an unhealthy obsession with, and I feel like if Soresby

881
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: ends up getting drafted into the NFL, it will wash

882
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: that one out of my system. It was actually a

883
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: Cincinnati quarterback. It was my biggest swing and miss ever was.

884
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: I used to go hard in the paint for a

885
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: six foot six Brian Kelly quarterback. Do you know who

886
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: I'm talking about? Six six? Well wait, Brian Kelly quarterback

887
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: at Cincinnati. Yeah. See, this is the problem. He made

888
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: it so that nobody even remembers him. Tony Pike. I

889
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: was obsessed with Tony Pike. Okay, and that that is

890
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: to the to date, that is my absolute biggest whiff.

891
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: But it's it's not every quarter. It's not like the

892
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that everyone knows will be good. There's these ones

893
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 2: that I just get like and I got the tweets

894
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 2: to prove it. Like when after one game of Josh

895
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: Allen in college, I posted I was like this might

896
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: be the next Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I used to scream

897
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: at people to offer Rock party when he was still

898
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: in high school. He didn't get his first Power five

899
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 2: offer until after his high school career ended. And I

900
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: feel I've felt the same way about Brendon Soresby. I

901
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: had to see Fernando Mendoza play a game in college

902
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: before I got on that train. Yeah, but I do,

903
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: I get a lot wrong, But like, this is the

904
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: one thing I'm super proud of is if I see

905
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoz and Brendan Soresby on the Heisman stage together,

906
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna be able to tell me shit.

907
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: For a And that's fair. That's fair.

908
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: One year off of Josh Allen MVP and a two

909
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars rock contract.

910
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: The paper MVP. It was Lamar's award.

911
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't disagree, but it happened. Yeah, all right, let's

912
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 2: let's finish up our storylines with I want to know George.

913
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 2: Because Memphis and UNLV went down this last weekend. Who's

914
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: our G five College Football playoff favorite? Right now?

915
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: Memphis, They're finish, go beat USF this weekend. Soon as

916
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: they beat us UF they will be back in it.

917
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: If not us it's it's over. It's USF.

918
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: So this is basically a college football playoff game.

919
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep yeah. On the College UNLV Prediction Show, which

920
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: is up right right now, you will uh you will

921
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: learn that. Yes, it is a one playoff game.

922
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: So no no shot for UNLV at all, even if

923
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 2: they went out, even if they get Boise State back

924
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: in like a Mountain West.

925
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no no, because if you USF, if they

926
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: don't lose, then they are in there for good, Permanentkay.

927
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: All right, so let's get to reister wrong. Uh, this

928
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: is this is probably my favorite storyline of the week,

929
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 2: and it has to do with FCS football, which we

930
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: don't talk about very often. We actually do talk about

931
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: Sacramento State quite a bit because because your boy and

932
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: former Arizona State assistant is the head coach out at

933
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: Sacramento Stoll.

934
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: I talked to him to day. I think we're gonna

935
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: have him on the show week.

936
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: That would be incredible, so I'll be careful what I say.

937
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny? Oh yeah, dude, dude. I literally have

938
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: been texting with Brennan and with Kenny Dilly haam today.

939
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's fascinating. I'm actually going to write a

940
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: column today for my Arizona Versity website talking about how

941
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham was wrong about something. So let's see if

942
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: we can piss off both coaches that you've been here.

943
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: We go. All right, So this actually doesn't have any

944
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: thing to do with Brandon Marion at all, but the

945
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: president of Sacramento State, the man who probably signed off

946
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: on the hiring of brand and Marion, decided to get

947
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: involved in this upcoming game between sax State and Montana.

948
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: Sax State's president, Luke Wood called Montana, who are the grizzlies,

949
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: by the way, and who have been an FCS powerhouse

950
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: for a long time. Yes, he called them the pandas.

951
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, but it was you

952
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: know how you say, you say a hit dog hollers. Yes,

953
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: I've never seen people get so mad over something that's like,

954
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: I won't say, not that big of a deal because

955
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do with me. I don't get

956
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: to decide whether it's the big deal or not. Montana's pissed, dude,

957
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: they're furious. They are the Grizzlies. Yes, So this is

958
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: the quote from Lukewood. He said, we're looking forward to

959
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: playing the Montana Pandas. Sorry Montana Grizzlies. Grizzlies, I think

960
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: that's their name, right. The head coach of Montana, Bobby

961
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: how was like, that guy's kind of a clown, right,

962
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow? And Wood said he didn't take that personally,

963
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: and he said it's all in good fun. Guess who's

964
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: not taking it is all in good fun? Who the

965
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: entire University of Montana, although they did put up a

966
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: mock helmet of what pandas would look like in the

967
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: cursive script on the side of their on the side

968
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: of their helmets. Yeah, they're pissed though, And I that's so.

969
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: There's this phrase, don't poke the bear. They're literally the bear,

970
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: the grizzly bears, not the panda bears. And they are

971
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: very good. Do you think this is smart if your

972
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: boss's boss. Yes.

973
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: So Montana has beat They have one common opponent right now,

974
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: which is cal Poly. Montana beat cal Poly and they're

975
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: seven to zero, and Sacramento State lost to cal Poly.

976
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: So but one of these teams is having tremendous, a

977
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: tremendously difficult time throwing the football, Montana is completing sixty

978
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: nine sixty eight percent of the passes for two thousand yards,

979
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: fourteen touchdown, six picks. Okay. Now, on the other hand,

980
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: Sacramento State has been shuffling quarterbacks and now they are

981
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: a running football team. A running football team, Ralph like

982
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: this is they don't even like they have a eleven

983
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: twelve hundred yards passing total. Yeah, it's it's not it's

984
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: it's suboptimal. They in the last game versus Northern Colorado Ralph,

985
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: they Sacramento State eight for sixteen passing for ninety yards.

986
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: Jade Vershata won for one and then they ran the

987
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: ball fifty seven times for three hundred and thirty two yards.

988
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: Would you have done this if your sack states, well,

989
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: the whole thing is reister wrong. So like, was Sacramento

990
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: State's president reister or wrong for poking the bear or

991
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 2: are we gonna find out?

992
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: We are gonna find out. I'm I'm gonna go with reister.

993
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: He said. It was in jest, like people, you know,

994
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: just joke around. Sometimes you take yourself too seriously.

995
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting dangerously close to We're getting dangerously close

996
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: to like racial overtones involved in this feud as well,

997
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: because sax State I think they they played Northern Colorado

998
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: a little while back and they had Little YACHTI play

999
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: after the game and then there was like a big fight.

1000
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: There was like a brawl and Montana. Montana's coach, Bobby

1001
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: Hawk I think, called it a riot. Now this this

1002
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: game is at sax State and Quevo is playing after

1003
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: the Montana game, So I'm just curious that we're going

1004
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: to see a bunch of Montana fans with skull in

1005
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: their bottom lip out here watching Cuevo. I'm so excited

1006
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: for this game. We wouldn't be talking about this game otherwise,

1007
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: So shout out to shout out to sax State in Montana.

1008
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: We are officially on fan to watch Reister or Wrong.

1009
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: Texas Texas Athletic director has issued a ban on throwing

1010
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: tortillas because they keep getting fined. Texas Tech fans are

1011
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 2: pissed at the Big twelve and this all comes on

1012
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: the heels of Kansas Knifegate, in which Lance Leopold made

1013
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: a claim that that Texas Tech students threw a pocket

1014
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: knife onto the field. Turns out that was not the

1015
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: case and Kansas actually got fined for disparaging a conference opponent.

1016
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: But Texas Tech fans believe in their mind that this

1017
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: is all leading to them being banned from throwing tortillas

1018
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: a prize tradition in Lubbock. Reister or wrong banning tortillas

1019
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: being thrown in Lubbock.

1020
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: It is one reister only because they're getting fined for it.

1021
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: Fans have to abide by the rules. You throw the

1022
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: tortillas before the game, and then no more tortilla throwing,

1023
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: No more tortillera throwing. And then you can throw tortillas

1024
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: after the game. That's it. Those are only two acceptable

1025
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: times to throw tortillas. I don't care if you're mad

1026
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: at the refs, if you're frustrated, anything like that. And

1027
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: if you can't follow that, then yes, we have to

1028
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: ban tortillas.

1029
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: In the twenty fourteen season, Sun Deville Stadium as it

1030
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 2: was called at the time, banned tortillas from being brought

1031
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: into the stadium at all. So I say this as

1032
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: an Arizona State fan. You can survive this.

1033
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I've been well a tortilla game though, Ralph. Yeah,

1034
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: when we played in the Sun Bowl against Minnesota the

1035
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: year I red shirted they threw tortillas in in Olpaso.

1036
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I don't love it, even though this week

1037
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: I found out that Texas Tech fans are not as

1038
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 2: cool as I thought that they were, and Big twelve

1039
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: fans are have been in my mensis all week long

1040
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 2: saying like, welcome to the party. I still like Texas Tech,

1041
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: still root for them, but God dealing with their fans

1042
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: this week sucked so much. I do want to segue

1043
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 2: into how much authority we think these coaches have because

1044
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: Kalani Sataki after the Holy War, he appealed to the

1045
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: scriptures in the Book of Mormon to encourage BYU fans

1046
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: to be cool to Utah fans after victory and field storming,

1047
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: and they had said don't storm the field, and BYU

1048
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: fans did it anyway? Do these coaches have any authority

1049
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: over these kids at all?

1050
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: No? No, they get sauted. They're like, do you think

1051
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna stop us from storming the field against Utah? No? No.

1052
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: The the best you can hope for is to do

1053
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: what Vanderbilt did is to put out a siren. They

1054
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: were like, hold on, hold on, hold it like brave heart.

1055
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 3: Hold hold Okay, there there, their staffers off the field

1056
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: go they put a horn on Some people could that's

1057
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 3: that's the best you can do, Phil Field storming is

1058
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 3: part of the part of jam.

1059
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: Get over you, okay, reister or wrong. We are on

1060
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: the precipice of something very bad happening between fans and players.

1061
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: And I say that because we just had a Texas

1062
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: Tech defensive lineman smush an Arizona State fans face, which

1063
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: I have no problem with. Don't I think that you

1064
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 2: should celebrate a win, not troll your opponent. Some people

1065
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 2: will say hands off regardless. I don't care. You weren't

1066
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 2: supposed to be on the playing surface. You decided to

1067
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: go up to an opposing player. He didn't hit you,

1068
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: he pushed your face away. It could have been a

1069
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: lot worse. I'm not trying to say that's what you get.

1070
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't feel bad. But I showed you

1071
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 2: a clip, and I'm not talking about the Texas Tech

1072
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: thing so much as I am talking about this. I

1073
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Speaker 2: showed you a clip of the Coastal Carolina players going

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Speaker 2: after the app State fans, and the Coastal Carolina players

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01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 2: are on the field and the app State fans were

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Speaker 2: in the stand, so nobody left their area for this.

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Speaker 2: But I think even you'll admit, and you guys can

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Speaker 2: find this clip. It's out on tick Talk. The Coastal

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Speaker 2: Carolina players were out of pocket going after the app

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Speaker 2: State fans.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but they were, but they were still standing

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Speaker 1: on the playing field, so everybody was away from each other.

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Speaker 1: I just I do believe that we are in line

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Speaker 1: for something bad to happen, which I absolutely hate. I

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01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: don't like it at all, and I don't want it

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Speaker 1: to happen. And this is why fans have to abide

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01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: by the rules, which is stay in your lane. If

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't say it to their face, don't, don't say

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01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: it because you're you're You're gonna end up with some

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Speaker 1: bad situations and it's gonna be bad for everybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't like some of the way some of the

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Speaker 2: fans have talked to Uh, to our guy at UH,

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01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: to Diego Pava. I think the Alabama fans after that

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: game got a little out of pocket. I think that

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01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: Auburn's quarterback has taken his fair share of shots from

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Speaker 2: the fans. I think that's all part of it. But

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Speaker 2: what we saw in that Coastal Carolina game was the

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Speaker 2: quarterback literally run over to the stands and cuss everybody

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Speaker 2: out while another player sit yeah, two middle fingers to

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Speaker 2: the sky grabbing his dick. So I just feel like

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01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: we're getting dangerously close to things getting really really weird.

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Speaker 2: All right, last one, and I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: saw this, but Colin Simmons at Texas, who have mixed

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Speaker 2: feelings about my mixed feelings. I believe he's a incredible

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Speaker 2: a top ten pick. Would love him on the Ears,

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Speaker 2: on the Cardinals, and b I think that his judgment

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01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 2: is suspect at times. Why because he gets on his

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 2: phone during games and like retweets stuff and he's bigger

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Speaker 2: than the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yes, wait he's retweeting stuff during the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So during the Peach Bowl, you know, Texas was

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Speaker 2: up big at halftime, Yes, so he like went into

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Speaker 2: the locker room and posted on his Instagram story that

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: Cam Scataboo sucks and it was like work and all

1115
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 2: that stuff.

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01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: Like.

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01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: So, like what I'm saying is he is he is

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01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: as talented as it gets. I also very much question

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: his judgment at times. This week he exercised that questionable

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Speaker 2: judgment to do something. I want to know, reister wrong

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Speaker 2: if you thought it was the right move. In the

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Speaker 2: press conference after this narrow Texas win over Kentucky, which

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Speaker 2: if you know ball, you don't put any stock in.

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Speaker 2: If you know ball, you don't a narrow win in

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Speaker 2: Lexington that you're just happy to get out a lot

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So like I'm I'm not worried about Texas. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to talk about what. You know, Texas looked

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Speaker 2: bad or whatever. It's Lexington. It's hell. You know, no

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01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 2: one looks good playing in Lexington. They're tough as hell

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01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: in their own They don't win, but they're tough as

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01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: hell in their home stadium. So after the game, I

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01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: guess Sark told a media member this team's identity is

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01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: defense and special teams right now. Yeah, And a media

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01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: member repeated that back to Colin Simmons. Okay, and Colin

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01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 2: Simmons said, I think our coach meant to say offense,

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01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 2: defense and special teams. If he didn't say it, you

1139
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: meant to no right right to say that, right, Colin Simmons.

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01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: Colin Simmons, And there's a clip out there. You'll see

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01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: it eventually. Like he Colin Simmons, he said no, like

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: our if our coach didn't say it, he meant to.

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 2: We have each other's backs here, So do you was

1144
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: he riser or wrong? Did he undercut sark Was he

1145
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: being a good teammate?

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01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to be a good teammate.

1147
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: But I'm not necessarily gonna correct my coach in the

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: in the media. I think that's what he meant to say.

1149
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: So then you can go back and be like, yo,

1150
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: hey coach, Hey, did you mean to say this? Nah? Man,

1151
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: I said what I meant? And then now you go

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: you can't.

1153
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: You can't. If you're sark you can't. That's a checkmate

1154
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: to me, what do you mean you if you are

1155
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian, you can't correct Colin Simmons. You'll see I'm

1156
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: gonna send you this clip. I'm gonna send you this

1157
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: clip right now. Why can't you them because of what

1158
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: what he said? Here? Let me, I'm I'm gonna find

1159
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,879
Speaker 2: this real quick. Have you ever been in a situation

1160
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: where you've seen somebody in a press conference say like

1161
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: my my coach was wrong?

1162
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: No, not no, not typically no, that's typically frowned upon.

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01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: And so that's why I said, like I do question.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I'm sending I'm sending it to you

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01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 2: right now, uh, the via text message. It's a real

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01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 2: short clip, all right. So I want you to crank

1167
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 2: the volume up on your on on your phone, and

1168
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: I want you to, uh to react to this in

1169
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: real time because this one, this one caught me by.

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01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm waiting on it to come in. Wait, you

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01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: sent it to my Twitter or you sent it to

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01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: my I text you, I text you, all right, all right,

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 2: So this is Colin Simmons, star defensive end for University

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Speaker 2: of Texas after their overtime win against Kentucky team right now.

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Speaker 4: Defense special identity of defense. So when he said defense,

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Speaker 4: I think he meant to say defense special teams in

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Speaker 4: offense with a team with a whole team.

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Speaker 2: So I mean it ain't just defense and special teams.

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Speaker 2: Is defense special teams in the offense.

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Speaker 1: We got the offensive back, we got offense back, offense

1182
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: got our bag, special teams got both our backs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason to correct him. I

1184
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: think that you know that he's been being a good

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01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: teammate and like that's it. That's what he was trying

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01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: to do. He's trying to be encouraging and trying to

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Speaker 1: be a leader. Yeah. I'm not mad at that, neither

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Speaker 1: of mine.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, Sark can't come out and say, like, no,

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Speaker 2: our offense sucks.

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Speaker 1: Oh even though they do, they're not great.

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01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: They're not great. Well let's end on Matt. No, what

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Speaker 2: what are you looking forward to this upcoming week?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, bro, the what I believe are the

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Speaker 1: sixth most important games of the weekend. And I talked

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Speaker 1: about this yesterday on the Live show. I believe that

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Speaker 1: there are six games that are like highly important and

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Speaker 1: those are the and for different reasons Texas, but they're

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Speaker 1: all kind of related. Text saying hm LSU. So this

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01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: is about coaches, right, Brian, Brian Kelly's fighting for his

1201
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: life right now. He may not be fighting for his job,

1202
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: but he's fighting for his life. Nebraska and Northwestern. Matt

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01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: Rule loses this game. Because Northwestern is five and two,

1204
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: they might should be ranked soon their worst law, I

1205
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: mean they lost Oregon is if Nebraska is a seven

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01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite, loses this game, Matt Rule

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01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be a sexy higher at Penn State. He

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: actually might be forced to stay at Nebraska, which I

1209
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 1: don't know is going to happen. Are Arkansas versus Auburn,

1210
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: Bobby Petrino fighting for his life and so is well,

1211
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: we'll just finish this here and and you got because

1212
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: we just lost the camera. The camera got tired. And

1213
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: then Auburn Hugh Freeze is fighting for his life. Washington

1214
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: and Illinois, both of them, guys might be fighting for

1215
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: new jobs or fighting for new contracts where they're at

1216
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: and yeah, like that's oh. And then the Memphis and

1217
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: USF game, Ryan Silverfield and Alex Gould is fighting it

1218
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: out for a playoff spot and fighting for jobs.

1219
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to these teams in the Big Twelve

1220
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 2: that are on life support whether or not they can

1221
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: they can handle themselves. So Utah is probably going to

1222
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: be without Devin dan Pier and they got Colorado come

1223
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: into town, and if they lose, that's going to be

1224
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: their third Big Twelve loss. And this is kind of

1225
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: a lost season for Utah if that's the case. Arizona

1226
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 2: State has six and one Houston coming to town. The

1227
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Speaker 2: loser of this game will be three and two in

1228
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve and will will be as close to

1229
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 2: dead as you can possibly be Baylor goes to Cincinnati.

1230
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm rooting against myself here, but I

1231
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: kind of as an Arizona State guy, need Baylor to win.

1232
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: But I do want Brendan Soursby to look good. If

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01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 2: Cincinnati moves to five and oher in the Big Twelve,

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01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: that's got to be one of the biggest surprises of

1235
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 2: the season. And then undefeated BYU is in ames Iowa,

1236
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 2: and this is it. Like I would state, if they

1237
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: want to go back to the Big Twelve title game,

1238
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: it's a must win. Plus they're gonna need extra help later.

1239
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: I predicted before the season that BYU would go eight

1240
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: and oh and then fall off a cliff. In order

1241
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 2: for BYU to go eight and oh, I need them

1242
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: to win this weekend in Aims. So I think it's

1243
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: going to be a really, really wacky weekend at the

1244
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 2: Big Twelve. And the other thing I'm looking forward to.

1245
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: Wyoming made a change at offensive coordinator. They put program

1246
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: legend Javon Bonnit into call plays. If we can score

1247
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,839
Speaker 2: more than twenty points of be an absolute miracle.

1248
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: You said it would be a miracle.

1249
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 2: We sucked, dude, and this is the I was looking

1250
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: forward to being the reason Jane Orville got fired, but

1251
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 2: they fired him before the border war. So this is

1252
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: Wyoming's rivalry game and they put a program legend in

1253
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 2: charge the offense. I just hope that we I hope

1254
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: we move the ball at all.

1255
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: Geez, way to be Debbie Downer, Bud.

1256
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm down like your camera.

1257
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well you guys, thanks for watching the

1258
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: would like subscribe, get notifications, Tell a friend about the show.

1259
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Speaker 1: Peace out, Catch you guys later.