Speaker 1: What up, pe Go, I I got swing, I'm super
Speaker 1: bad Brown.
Speaker 2: I like that. That's hard, right, Oh shit, I need
Speaker 2: to get I like that one. He fluct.
Speaker 1: You know what I got on man? If y'all know
Speaker 1: you know you know what I'm saying, right, take it
Speaker 1: in truth?
Speaker 2: We got so and I'm super bad. That's hard.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: The word man p I wanted to ask you this
Speaker 1: question before we start. I know they set the cameras
Speaker 1: and ship up Pee. Have you hit thirty on every
Speaker 1: team in the league?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Now look it up. I think
Speaker 2: you have. He maybe not the bulls. Think about this word.
Speaker 2: I hated out in the meat too. You know what
Speaker 2: man in Chicago, but Chicago's rims shoot. It was the lighting,
Speaker 2: the depth perception, right, you couldn't even the realm look
Speaker 2: weird and didn't you.
Speaker 4: Don't understand and out of the NBA arena, there's a
Speaker 4: certain nb A NBA arenas. It's terrible for shooting, terrible
Speaker 4: for I thought United Center was one of them, especially
Speaker 4: when you only coming in for that one day.
Speaker 2: You don't get the practice on the realm. And then
Speaker 2: the best spot for me was Lawland, New.
Speaker 1: York, Portland. I loved the l A. L A had
Speaker 1: a dark perception.
Speaker 2: When that's REALM. I like l A and I like
Speaker 2: New York. Forty pieces, Jersey love, I love going to Jersey, Jersey,
Speaker 2: love to.
Speaker 3: Philly, Detroit, Miami, Atlanta.
Speaker 5: The Eastern Conference, dam Bakers, the Knicks, Uh, the SuperSonics.
Speaker 2: Piece I don't even remember now.
Speaker 3: That was in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: Dangn he not gave all all these c he gave
Speaker 2: forty piece before.
Speaker 3: At least.
Speaker 2: Keep going, keep going, keep going, scoring games.
Speaker 5: And then the next I mentioned the Nets and then
Speaker 5: Cleveland game.
Speaker 2: Start over, Nate, do it here?
Speaker 3: Alright?
Speaker 1: So all the Eastern Conference down there, number one shorty one.
Speaker 2: Number one, Cleveland, damn. Number two, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Why the number three, number four Denver, damn get over there.
Speaker 3: Chicago at six, Scott, yeah you had. I don't even
Speaker 3: remember that game two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: As well.
Speaker 2: The Knicks again, Superstonics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nigga Seattle, you know you're not lady down. That
Speaker 1: boy probably got Seattle to Seattle. I said it was
Speaker 1: probably GP yapping and ship were you know GP.
Speaker 2: Fire you up? He was in Miami there. I don't
Speaker 2: know what it was.
Speaker 3: This Minnesota No.
Speaker 2: One. So in Minnesota, Oh yeah, I was Zerbiak, the Lakers,
Speaker 2: the Lake one.
Speaker 3: I think this was the Truth game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that was That was Phoenix right after that.
Speaker 2: That was right after that. Phoenix was right after that. Yep.
Speaker 3: Exactly two days later.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: So yeah, back to back, forty pieces exact same for
Speaker 5: both games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. It's all coming back.
Speaker 1: It's coming I remember that Play the Heart, Play the
Speaker 1: Heart from music. It's all coming back. Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Orlando, we have Atlanta, Miami, Cleveland again, Detroit, Philly,
Speaker 5: sat In Phoenix.
Speaker 3: So those are your top twenty scoring games.
Speaker 1: That's Balllah Lord Cleveland at least three or four times.
Speaker 1: So listen, I never asked you this. I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you this on camera. Don't give me no commercial ship.
Speaker 1: The toughest defender of all time.
Speaker 2: On me on you Ron?
Speaker 1: Ron?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, he ain't got no further than him.
Speaker 1: I don't hurt Trevor Reeves's and I see her. I
Speaker 1: seen Hamrid do decent on you. Why was that Ron?
Speaker 4: Because Ron was strong? Yeah, and he could move later on.
Speaker 4: He had good hands, you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I was good at getting my
Speaker 4: shoulder on you and getting you, getting to bump you
Speaker 4: and getting you a balance when you bumping him. He
Speaker 4: taking the bump, absorbing it, and so it's targe. Then
Speaker 4: he had long arms and he slid well. He slid well.
Speaker 4: He was one of the best defensive players. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: you know a lot of times I was either stronger,
Speaker 4: I could shoot over him, go buy him. But he
Speaker 4: had a good combination of strength and speed, especially laterally.
Speaker 4: And he had good hands, so you couldn't You couldn't
Speaker 4: fuck around with the ball with him either.
Speaker 2: He he'd take it from me too.
Speaker 1: Ron was one of the Metaworld pieces, one of the
Speaker 1: people that Pete you had to have that one two
Speaker 1: dribble combo to get.
Speaker 2: A guy off right. A lot of people don't.
Speaker 1: Know respects to Meta, respects to Dennis Rodman, respects to
Speaker 1: all the great defenders, Ben Wallace, they they what.
Speaker 2: What to me?
Speaker 1: Great defenders, Great defenders initiated defense when you was in.
Speaker 2: The interaction of offense. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you, if you wasn't that dude to you know,
Speaker 1: go right when you wanted to go right, because it
Speaker 1: was seeing you left. You're not like that. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, that the ultimate defender. It took
Speaker 1: an ultimate score like yourself or someone of ep echelon
Speaker 1: that knew how to actually implement.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's some offensive.
Speaker 1: Gaming ship like man, you know what, I love watching
Speaker 1: sometimes when the ball didn't even test the ground, I'm
Speaker 1: watching both. I'm watching both the offensive planer and watching defender.
Speaker 1: And now people think that the offensive players actually dictating
Speaker 1: that it's actually the defender.
Speaker 2: The defender is in your ends and he giving you away.
Speaker 2: And you got great defenders.
Speaker 1: A great defender, excuse me, not not a regular I'm
Speaker 1: talking about a great defender. A great defender is going
Speaker 1: to dictate where you go, how many jobs did you get?
Speaker 1: And then hard contest or some bullshit either right right right,
Speaker 1: And that's to me, the person that can handle all
Speaker 1: that is a king of offense. And I always wondered that, bro,
Speaker 1: because what Paul appears to me because I guard you
Speaker 1: a couple of times on on whatever. It was the
Speaker 1: one thing I've always fascinated with you because you know me,
Speaker 1: I'm contesting high so not so much at you, but
Speaker 1: my Ship. When I contest you, I'm contesting that you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to make the ball go like this and
Speaker 1: then come down.
Speaker 2: Man. Peace to me. This is my own person. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: your ability to see nothing right right?
Speaker 1: I used to you you say that take it.
Speaker 2: Don't see you?
Speaker 1: Damn fuck that. Then I get him like, look, I
Speaker 1: mean it was you in Minnesota. You hit me like no,
Speaker 1: I don't see you. I was like, man, hit that ship.
Speaker 1: So our little pregame routine we got. We got a
Speaker 1: little pregame routine. You do our layers and we get
Speaker 1: our one. We get a little warm up.
Speaker 2: We can get on.
Speaker 1: But then then it could be at any time too, though,
Speaker 1: and then we'll go one on one hard.
Speaker 2: He's getting one possession. That's it. It's over. It's it's hard, though,
Speaker 2: it's hard. It can be at any time.
Speaker 1: They so hit down, get throw, throw it and I
Speaker 1: catch it and it's home. And then I'm like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: for every game we throw the ball one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour extra and you gotta catch up and you
Speaker 1: get big and then everybody.
Speaker 2: Else moves the funk out the way.
Speaker 1: Once we got playing super possession, one super fiscal right
Speaker 1: before the game.
Speaker 2: Come on, nigga, you ready's gonna get n No ship
Speaker 2: you might not get. I don't know whatever your move is,
Speaker 2: but he it's extra. He had the whole we go
Speaker 2: one possessing every day and.
Speaker 1: We're flipping around and get up around, jump right back here.
Speaker 1: Now you're all up here here.
Speaker 2: I want people want to see if I'm ready. I'm like,
Speaker 2: is you ready? I'm talking about it's a hard one possession.
Speaker 1: That's a hard like you get a bucket energy, Get
Speaker 1: a bucket.
Speaker 2: It's flavoring energy. It's flavoring energy. Get a bucket right
Speaker 2: before the game, right before the game. Let's get it.
Speaker 2: Forget it. You may think of that.
Speaker 3: Last week truth shout out to the truth flowners.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned the Knicks will knock it out of
Speaker 5: the first round, and you proclaim that.
Speaker 3: In the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna pull up and then a little research
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: So the Knicks when they play teams above five hundred
Speaker 5: or twenty or below five hundred excuse me, or twenty
Speaker 5: three and two, so non playoff teams, when they play teams.
Speaker 3: Above five hundred, they're twelve and twenty one.
Speaker 4: So losing reference, So it ain't a hate burst them.
Speaker 4: I'm just going by what I see and I'm looking
Speaker 4: at who they possible matchup seeing. So if the playoffs
Speaker 4: start today, they got to see Miami. And with the
Speaker 4: way Miami playing right now, this ain't the Miami you
Speaker 4: want to play right now because Jimmy Butler, he you
Speaker 4: know how he eats into the season and then once
Speaker 4: he he at the All Star break, he turned into
Speaker 4: Jimmy Jimmy buckets. And that's what I'm starting to see now.
Speaker 4: So if they gotta play the Miami Heat in the
Speaker 4: first round, that's what I'm saying. It could be Miami,
Speaker 4: it might be Indiana. That's what they looking at right now.
Speaker 2: Who else? Let me let me look at the stand I'm.
Speaker 3: Looking at right now. But but Ticket, I kind of
Speaker 3: want to ask you, how do you feel about.
Speaker 2: Even Philly?
Speaker 4: They might have to see Phillyn be come back.
Speaker 1: Philly don't look attractive right now because the big feel
Speaker 1: like there.
Speaker 2: Everybody don't come back. Yeah, but he gonna come back
Speaker 2: and do what.
Speaker 1: Listen to me to Pete, And what you cannot discount
Speaker 1: is that everybody thinking that bro is in an unbelievable rhythm. Bro,
Speaker 1: you missed two three days from hooping, you're out of rhythm.
Speaker 1: It takes it takes three months to get in shape.
Speaker 1: It takes three days to get out of shape. Real
Speaker 1: fucking ship, you hear me. So the fact that he's
Speaker 1: been out of basketball, we don't know what Joel's been doing.
Speaker 1: I'm not testing that. What I'm saying is you can't
Speaker 1: just think that he gonna come back and they gonna
Speaker 1: be in the rhythm and where they are and Philly's dropping,
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing teams like New York trying to gain
Speaker 1: confidence regardless of what happened in the Piston game in
Speaker 1: New York hurt too. Now they've been hurt. But that's
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. When you bring these pieces back
Speaker 1: with Ivanovitch and and and and and and and and
Speaker 1: Randol and and uh o g. You don't even need
Speaker 1: big fellow who had the ankle surgery. What's the center,
Speaker 1: my man? Mitchell Robinson rare. He he done for the year.
Speaker 1: But Bro, Randall, Bogie and and and and and uh Brunson,
Speaker 1: the legit they scary p nobody And you know.
Speaker 2: What they got the lead they got the wave behind
Speaker 2: him the league.
Speaker 1: I ain't seen the league put this much into the
Speaker 1: Knicks in so much time. I'm watching other platforms. I'm
Speaker 1: watching everybody. Everybody talking about the Knicks and what the
Speaker 1: Knicks and the Knicks and the Knicks. It's other teams.
Speaker 1: Brett playing better than that Nicks Staya wave.
Speaker 2: Bro, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If they gotta play Indiana, are you confident? If they
Speaker 4: gotta play Miami, That's what I'm saying. They gonna it's
Speaker 4: gonna be toughness. They got a closer, and that's what
Speaker 4: you need in your team. You gotta have a closer
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter of Bruns and it's tough. Listen
Speaker 4: to me, he's a closer though.
Speaker 1: Look what he did in Dallas and everybody's talked about
Speaker 1: uh with doing He's a closure. He listen, Randall, he
Speaker 1: could dominate three quarters, he could dominate fourth quarter two.
Speaker 2: But Bro, I like I like I like the I
Speaker 2: like the way they're the way they look man, the Celtics.
Speaker 1: When you look at the Celtics, man, the Celtics solid seven.
Speaker 1: You like you Yeah, that's what the Knicks are trying
Speaker 1: to create. You throw Bogey in there and you got
Speaker 1: random back. Mitchell Robinson gonna be in there. What's my
Speaker 1: boy went? We're playing in Detroit?
Speaker 2: Came back? Burks here here a closer. You hear what? Bro? No,
Speaker 2: they got some they got some pieces got.
Speaker 1: To come together, they do, Bro, They all got to
Speaker 1: come together. That I'm just talking about what it looks
Speaker 1: like and the potential of what that's like.
Speaker 4: You know, you just can't just throw pieces together and
Speaker 4: be like, look at these names and think it's gonna
Speaker 4: work out. They got the names, they got the talent,
Speaker 4: but they need another year season and they need for
Speaker 4: me to believe that they can get out the first
Speaker 4: round based on where they are now compared to who
Speaker 4: they might have to play. They need another year to
Speaker 4: stir that pot another year because you're dealing with injuries.
Speaker 4: You got guys in and out, the layer lineup, you
Speaker 4: know all that work. You just don't come in and
Speaker 4: think you just gonna be running ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You gotta have that chemistry. Man.
Speaker 2: They gotta start now.
Speaker 1: You only got twenty twenty games left, yep, less than
Speaker 1: like like come on, and then like how many how
Speaker 1: many games you need for all of these new pieces.
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about the pieces they already had,
Speaker 1: even these new pieces implementing them. So when Randall come back,
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be all this. Well everybody think they
Speaker 1: gonna do been doing og comeback. You know, everybody gotta
Speaker 1: slide on back to the back of the line. Then
Speaker 1: they gotta get back in shape. They gotta get their rhythm,
Speaker 1: so they gonna be getting forced fed. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, They gonna I think you're playing a lot
Speaker 1: of minutes and then we gotta see at work. One
Speaker 1: thing we're not thinking about d is the Knicks or
Speaker 1: defensive team first. Yeah, absolutely, that's that's the biggest scare here.
Speaker 1: They can stop teams and they can also score the ball.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I'm saying here. So if you're
Speaker 1: gonna contest the king of the here and go and
Speaker 1: go to the top of it, you gotta have a
Speaker 1: defensive presence, and they have that. That's the scarier that's
Speaker 1: the scare that's scarce to. That's why we like the
Speaker 1: next more than we like the Cleveland Cavaliers. That's why
Speaker 1: we like them a little even better this year. Now, No,
Speaker 1: you don't this year. This year, I do runeitate this year,
Speaker 1: know you? And right now we was giving up to Donovano.
Speaker 1: They just lost to the fucking Wizards. They just lost
Speaker 1: to the Wizards, didn't they just lose to the Wizards.
Speaker 2: Stop me. Yeah that's stop yeah, yeah, that's And then
Speaker 2: they're not playing at that peak.
Speaker 1: Bro, Donovan Mitchell is not Garland and not more. Those
Speaker 1: pieces they not enough to knock one of those off
Speaker 1: that you're filming. What I'm saying, they number two in
Speaker 1: the East right.
Speaker 3: Now, so you can take the cats over the next
Speaker 3: in the first round.
Speaker 1: No, I'm taking the next man the next scene to
Speaker 1: be a tougher filmy and this ain't I ain't personal.
Speaker 2: I'm watching that. I'm watching the consistency.
Speaker 4: Men learned from last year. They looking they looking like
Speaker 4: they got tougher. They run back, running back, they're running back.
Speaker 4: They're not gonna see each other.
Speaker 2: So seven games here is you taking the Cabs over
Speaker 2: over the next this year? I am this year.
Speaker 4: I like what I'm saying from Donovan. Strut's been a
Speaker 4: great pick up, great pickup. He cracking, by the way,
Speaker 4: he cracking.
Speaker 2: St that's when they play. They play a game they're
Speaker 2: not They're not gonna play each other in the first round.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, the next time, do I think
Speaker 1: Cleveland is tougher?
Speaker 2: Sunday?
Speaker 1: Sunday same word. Hey, we might need a live stream
Speaker 1: there at the crib now you want to get youth playing?
Speaker 1: John listen, Random ain't back here, dope, see saying, ain't.
Speaker 2: Want that? Man, Man, we don't even know if Random
Speaker 2: coming back? Random coming back? Yeah, what's wrong with him? Shoulder?
Speaker 2: The shoulder? Shoulder, damn you know when you're holding it up.
Speaker 4: Like that, ain't No, that ain't no joke because my
Speaker 4: shoulder her right now too straight up. I can't even
Speaker 4: do no pull up right now. My show to start
Speaker 4: hurt and I was doing pull ups.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that show right now. Joe listen, I'm telling
Speaker 2: you I don't want to call them fool's goal, but
Speaker 2: I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I need to see more of consistency from the Garland,
Speaker 1: some of them, some of them two and three options.
Speaker 2: I look at the Knicks. The Knicks is like an
Speaker 2: Instagram model. You go, you go.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, don't come off Instagram and
Speaker 4: I'll be like, damn, she fine here you catch them
Speaker 4: in person, and.
Speaker 3: You like.
Speaker 2: This is you get them a highlight? Get a highlight?
Speaker 2: This you get them at light?
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm like, there's too many filters. It's two
Speaker 1: different things. It's two different reality versus I'm saying they
Speaker 1: think of Instagram. So what am I watching on TV
Speaker 1: n P a Instagram model? So if I go see it,
Speaker 1: fron Row, I get to see see the playoffs.
Speaker 4: You see the real fast Look look up, they ain't
Speaker 4: glad ship you ain't they got that fashion.
Speaker 2: I believe. I ain't no Nick fan, no, none of that.
Speaker 2: I'm just calling out.
Speaker 1: I see it the Knicks. I'm seeing what the wave is.
Speaker 1: Bro they won't the Knicks and Celtics brot the fashion
Speaker 1: ova right now?
Speaker 2: Rip off? He ain't ship yo, all right.
Speaker 5: Next thing, I want to ask you guys about Chris
Speaker 5: Paul to the Warriors lineup on Tuesday night.
Speaker 3: They're eighty two in their last ten games.
Speaker 5: Kind of they're in tenth place right now, but their
Speaker 5: seasons kind of turned around. So the question I have
Speaker 5: to you guys, are they clicking at the right time
Speaker 5: and is their title pursuit window still open?
Speaker 1: See this is my theory when you talk the Warriors
Speaker 1: and the Lakers. Now, I can't prove this, and I
Speaker 1: can be totally wrong, but if the Lakers and the
Speaker 1: Warriors are not in the play in, who's watching the
Speaker 1: play they gonna be in the player the play out
Speaker 1: of the player. Listen to me though, right now, For
Speaker 1: years past, they've always had Lebron in the play in
Speaker 1: and everybody's watched that real ship Clay too.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We watch, I mean, Steph two,
Speaker 2: we watched. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So my theory, listen, two teams that I feel like
Speaker 1: it is about to make some type of momentum shift.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the Golden State Warriors and the Lakers.
Speaker 4: So you think that one of them teams got a
Speaker 4: chance to do what Miami did last year.
Speaker 1: I think that they got the potential to go on
Speaker 1: the run. Are you watching how the Warriors look? The
Speaker 1: Warriors look different, Pete Clay coming off the bench. Now
Speaker 1: it seems like everybody, Okay, this is our position.
Speaker 2: We're going with it. We're going with it.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the energy. You gotta translate the
Speaker 1: gotta translate that into wins.
Speaker 2: Now, that's what I'm saying. No, they they playing better.
Speaker 1: They playing better, but that the piece is now okay,
Speaker 1: they ain't playing Steph. It's it's Steph's uh comingas these
Speaker 1: other pieces. Okay, okay, boom, okay, now we got okay configuring.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just that with Golden State, they always
Speaker 4: doing their championship years or word. They always carry the aura,
Speaker 4: you know, and I don't really see the aura and
Speaker 4: the fear factor that they put.
Speaker 1: In a fear fact, not right now till you get
Speaker 1: in the ring, till you get in that motherfucker in
Speaker 1: the seven game series and you you use so you
Speaker 1: see season and you see and you see them little motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: You see Steph and all them. You see the motherfuckers
Speaker 1: over there. You're like, yeah, you gotta leave them seven games.
Speaker 1: Yeah that glow. What I'm saying, Bro, you gotta beat this.
Speaker 1: You gotta beat the champions. These are ex champions. You know.
Speaker 1: You gotta knock the champion. Now, you gotta knock his
Speaker 1: ass out. Like That's what there's these young boys gonna
Speaker 1: have to do. To the to the to the to
Speaker 1: the Golden States, to to the to the Lakers, to
Speaker 1: the older win now kind of states when teams that's
Speaker 1: kind of on.
Speaker 2: The little half, bro.
Speaker 1: The young boys gonna have to they're gonna have to. Look,
Speaker 1: this is how we get all I'm saying, we got
Speaker 1: to beat all the seven games, okays a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Minnesota's gonna have to beat
Speaker 1: one of them teams to get state.
Speaker 2: Warriors.
Speaker 4: Remind me and the Lakers remind me of our twenty
Speaker 4: ten team. We was older, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And our regular season wasn't like that, yeah, but when
Speaker 4: we got to the playoffs, we was looking old to
Speaker 4: slow versus these young teams. They was blowing by us
Speaker 4: out on the break, offense and rebounds. And that's what
Speaker 4: I see for the Lakers. But when you get them
Speaker 4: in the Golden State, when you get them in the
Speaker 4: playoffs situation. Now, when the game, you got the tape
Speaker 4: and then you got the scouting. So when you sit
Speaker 4: down and you focus on that one team with the
Speaker 4: IQs is that's in them two locker.
Speaker 2: Rooms, it's over. It's gonna be a problem. It's an
Speaker 2: even match up now, you know.
Speaker 1: So Now that's why I say if they both make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, that I ain't confident in those teams at
Speaker 1: the top right now in Minnesota. Okay, see, I don't
Speaker 1: think neither one of those teams could be Denver though.
Speaker 1: They got to try to avoid Denver at all costs
Speaker 1: in the first round because Denver's kind of that tier older,
Speaker 1: not not older, but me they got mature. Well, they're
Speaker 1: the chance, but they got to But think about this though,
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying they the chance, but they have
Speaker 1: a mature aura about themselves on how to beat older
Speaker 1: teams like that exactly, and then they know how to
Speaker 1: beat younger teams that's running in the gun.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They got a good mix. So if they can either
Speaker 4: one of them teams can Gideon.
Speaker 1: But listen, I'm gonna tell you now, p Minnesota, ok see,
Speaker 1: and all these young teams gonna have to go ahead
Speaker 1: and get their respects from old here.
Speaker 2: Straight up. It's gonna have to be a fade and
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to leave.
Speaker 1: Og that, you know what I'm saying down yeah, in
Speaker 1: seven games and then if not, you're gonna always be
Speaker 1: fighting against those real shit window both of them teams
Speaker 1: is this year. Yeah, I think now they in the marathon, though,
Speaker 1: Minnesota and OKAC are going to have to put pieces
Speaker 1: on what they already have a bill what they have
Speaker 1: because you can't go backwards now you're you're first. Now,
Speaker 1: Minnesota is expected to be in this position and play
Speaker 1: like this and be like this and click like this
Speaker 1: every year.
Speaker 2: Now, So this is the press in there. You setting
Speaker 2: this for yourself and and and you know your culture
Speaker 2: and ship.
Speaker 1: Ain't no, ain't no going down. This is all accelerating,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So let's see. Let's see
Speaker 1: what you're gonna have to go through somebody real to
Speaker 1: get to it.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: It's just about that, straight up. And you're gonna get
Speaker 1: everybody's best. That's another thing I bet Okay see in
Speaker 1: Minnesota getting everybody's best.
Speaker 2: That's what you get when you number one, when you're
Speaker 2: at the top. Everybody. Man, you see a motherfucker. You
Speaker 2: watch film on him in his last three games, he
Speaker 2: looking like you get in here this but who got butter?
Speaker 2: That's bro.
Speaker 4: Ain't nobody talking about the New Orlean Pelicans, Bro, They
Speaker 4: is just creeping.
Speaker 2: They like man, they they creeping. They're like Miami, Bro,
Speaker 2: Nobody around ain't nobody talking about it.
Speaker 4: They in the top six. Yeah, and ain't nobody talking
Speaker 4: about them. And they got depth, they got veterans, they
Speaker 4: got youth, they got young They right there. To me,
Speaker 4: they right there with Minnesota as far as talent, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, They right there with Okay, see
Speaker 4: when they as far as talent, they somebody better watch
Speaker 4: out for them in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You mean like having a bona fide superstars, a bonafide superstars,
Speaker 1: and you've been an All Star and you got old dogs,
Speaker 1: strappy dogs.
Speaker 2: You got O. G. C. J. McCullum, right, who kind
Speaker 2: of keep that even killed keep it all together. He
Speaker 2: gives them balance. Yeah, and then you got them young boys.
Speaker 2: You justly black leads. I love them. They got like
Speaker 2: seven guys out here.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. They're gonna be a problem in
Speaker 4: the seven game series. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you need to
Speaker 4: start putting the notice on them.
Speaker 3: Go back to play though five games off the bench,
Speaker 3: they're four to one.
Speaker 5: In those games, he's averaging twenty shooting three, so he's
Speaker 5: really bounced back excepting the.
Speaker 1: World coming off shout to clay Man. Listen, we said
Speaker 1: this man, listen, shoot and shoot score score.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When you're a shooter, man, the first thing I heard
Speaker 1: a shooter say to me is I shoot, mofucker, make
Speaker 1: a miss.
Speaker 2: I'm shooting it. So you know when you when you
Speaker 2: like that, man, and you got to believe that too.
Speaker 4: That's why you know you know what though, he I
Speaker 4: think Clay he's starting to wrap his mind around coming
Speaker 4: off the bench.
Speaker 2: Reality. That's tough.
Speaker 4: As a player who's been a start of your whole life,
Speaker 4: is you just making that adjustment. That's a whole adjustment.
Speaker 2: Mint off the.
Speaker 1: Bench, That's a whole when you're a starter, your ten
Speaker 1: fifteen plus years and you got to come off the bench.
Speaker 1: That's a whole hard attitude, mental adjustment, getting ready before
Speaker 1: the game adjustment.
Speaker 2: And he's wrapped his mind around that. He's embraced it.
Speaker 4: He's embraced it, and that's why he's thriving. And I
Speaker 4: think with him coming coming off the bench, the Golden
Speaker 4: State words just got.
Speaker 1: Deeper facts that quick, that quick because shock you add
Speaker 1: Chris Paul to know what I'm saying, is your second
Speaker 1: your second player coming off the bench can't guard Clay
Speaker 1: most of the time, or he you feel what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 1: it ain't so traditional me guard you no more.
Speaker 2: It's matchups and shit.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is Clay's not going to get
Speaker 1: that team second second two guard. He used to start
Speaker 1: against the starter, right yeah, so now he's playing coming
Speaker 1: off the bench again, I'm taking Clay in that and
Speaker 1: that matchup majority of the time. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: The most motherfuckers on the bench ain't even paying attention
Speaker 1: to the game.
Speaker 2: You gotta chase him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm indad ass the Golden State words just became the
Speaker 4: highest IQ bench in the.
Speaker 1: League just by doing that. But with him and Chris Paul,
Speaker 1: what are you add to that? Oh yeah, that's right
Speaker 1: because Chris Paul, Yeah, he back.
Speaker 2: What's he looked like though? And what's his window?
Speaker 4: They don't they don't need Chris Paul to just be solid.
Speaker 4: Just run the team, get him in they sets, get
Speaker 4: Clay going. You know that's gonna be big at the
Speaker 4: IQ though that you can't you can't measure, you know,
Speaker 4: where a player bring IQ wise, because that's a whole
Speaker 4: other level of just understanding defense, understanding offense. Understanding who
Speaker 4: to get going. That's big when it comes playoff time
Speaker 4: and they gonna need that.
Speaker 2: You're playing Chris Paul for pter.
Speaker 4: It depends on how it's going, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: because I don't want to be all out there. It
Speaker 4: depends on who the team is. Like if I'm playing Okay,
Speaker 4: see all these young athletes, you don't want to have
Speaker 4: Chris Paul thirty five plus Clay thirty.
Speaker 1: Plus fourth quarter though these are your decision makers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they all fight six minutes, but you.
Speaker 4: Lack They don't lack that same defensive intensity as all
Speaker 4: the players as they once did.
Speaker 2: IQ comes before all that. Yeah, you're smart at this
Speaker 2: right right, but you got to be at a defend.
Speaker 1: Here you do and everything switching. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's not traditional. I like them at the end of
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 4: I do like all of them, especially like you said that,
Speaker 4: I like I said i Q decision making. But it
Speaker 4: just words me how small uh they go and the
Speaker 4: ability to defend with all them out there at the
Speaker 4: end of.
Speaker 2: The game and a small ball small it's hard to
Speaker 2: guard that way.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something with the Minnesota going big
Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, we we kind of beat it
Speaker 1: up or whatever. Now it's working for them, the number
Speaker 1: one in defensive ship. I'm noticing that Cleveland goes too bigs.
Speaker 1: Somebody else goes too Bigs' traditional well I'm saying is
Speaker 1: to say that is that is this the new wave?
Speaker 2: So they go big two sometime they'll have Horford in Yeah, horsing.
Speaker 1: Is Listen, though, I watched The Kings with Sabonis, and
Speaker 1: sometimes they try to go lows, they try to go
Speaker 1: Sabonis loves or they try to go I forget the combination.
Speaker 1: But they play a lot of Sabonis being the big
Speaker 1: and then what's my man from Golden State from your
Speaker 1: Boy went to North Carolina, dark skinned kid playing number forty.
Speaker 2: I'm going to blank on this name. He'll go to
Speaker 2: the four. Now with that.
Speaker 1: Minnesota twin Towers, I'm noticing that now you're coming in
Speaker 1: with with with with two damn the two Power Forward
Speaker 1: or two Bigs?
Speaker 2: Is that the new wave just because they did it?
Speaker 1: But the thing is the only reason they can do
Speaker 1: that is because one of them Beds can shoot threes
Speaker 1: and he can still spread the fists and he's rush
Speaker 1: and then you got a good big that can row
Speaker 1: and finish at the rim or with the live threat. Yes,
Speaker 1: so that's why that works.
Speaker 2: And the same for the subjects.
Speaker 4: When you got Hornford and Porzili is one of the business,
Speaker 4: both of them big shot three point shooters, and they
Speaker 4: both can roll and finish, you know, roll into the basket.
Speaker 4: So you can't just have two bigs who do the
Speaker 4: same thing, and your four can defend he can.
Speaker 1: Then what I'm saying when they switch it, they're not
Speaker 1: put Rooty in everything, callings and everything he can guard
Speaker 1: or guard to the.
Speaker 2: Car where he can sit.
Speaker 4: It's gotta be a perfect combination. And you just can't
Speaker 4: be doing it right. You can't just go out there
Speaker 4: doing it. You gotta you gotta have biggs that can
Speaker 4: guard and shoot three. Because Cleveland does that too. They
Speaker 4: have Mobley and Big Fella, but they best they do that.
Speaker 4: But they best line up is when they put Strouss
Speaker 4: at the four. Ye at the four makes because.
Speaker 2: They can spread the Menchell like end of the game
Speaker 2: they had Strue at the four. Listen. I just don't
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 1: One two, I don't think we've seen enough of Cleveland
Speaker 1: too that's another thing. I've seen them, and then I'll
Speaker 1: see them on like a sort like let's say, I'll
Speaker 1: see like the next four games, Mobley be out two
Speaker 1: of those games, Garland just came back like it's it's so.
Speaker 2: Many moving pieces.
Speaker 1: And then I watched you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm I'm I'm trying to watch
Speaker 1: the whole league like I watch it.
Speaker 2: And then some teams nobody healthy in the East.
Speaker 1: Well, nobody's healthy and collectively consistency.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Walukee, Middletons in and out yeah, and me,
Speaker 2: I don't know who in and out. Listen.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying Celtics healthy, They're gonna walk through
Speaker 1: the East. I ain't gonna no, hell no, they're gonna
Speaker 1: walk through. I ain't gonna walk through it because you
Speaker 1: know what you're not to count for. You know, Walker,
Speaker 1: you're tripping watch out since Daydenund said again, Nate, I
Speaker 1: told you three in a row keeping their opponents under
Speaker 1: one hundred coming Pete. They started with the defensive effort.
Speaker 2: That defensive that's difference. Look at Dame.
Speaker 1: I saw Dame. Dane was not only getting through the pig.
Speaker 1: But he was pursuing like like, bro, I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: watching the energy. I'm watching it, just the second half
Speaker 1: energy on defense.
Speaker 2: And who they blew out, blew out Charlotte. They blew
Speaker 2: they brew a couple of teams out. They Charlott.
Speaker 1: They was up about like fifty and they beat Minnesota
Speaker 1: at Minnesota and the Sixers. I means, ain't healthy right now,
Speaker 1: but this is all good wins solid. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, at the All Star break, you gotta start
Speaker 1: putting together some good wins. So I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna start having games where it's gonna resemble what
Speaker 1: the playoffs is gonna be. Like, you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: mark them games like, and you gotta start putting together
Speaker 1: them wins because when you get to the playoffs with
Speaker 1: some of these teams and give you a different psyche,
Speaker 1: when you know you can beat them, have.
Speaker 2: A lot of it's gonna be good for him. That's
Speaker 2: great test form. But we don't know who. There's your
Speaker 2: sleeper in the East. Give me your sleeper. We do
Speaker 2: a sleeper every week. Let me just your sleeping East.
Speaker 2: What you mean to do?
Speaker 1: What sleeper to be better than sleeper. When people think
Speaker 1: they gonn leep. Niggas sleeping right now, sleep each sleep.
Speaker 2: On the shop. My sleeper is Orlando took my sleeper.
Speaker 2: Ain't ship. He ain't ship. Bigga sleeper though, nigga wagoner.
Speaker 2: I told you no, no oh yeah, it's Paolo underrated
Speaker 2: to you. You think.
Speaker 1: The All Star Game the second year, Well I get it.
Speaker 1: But look, he hit a lot of He hit a
Speaker 1: lot of clutch three. I don't know if you watch
Speaker 1: a lot of magic games, but bro, he had hit
Speaker 1: the he hit the three to tie up three to
Speaker 1: put him up.
Speaker 2: He I don't He's next. He's next. Bro.
Speaker 1: He got a quiet game, and he's kind of you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you know, light voice, like mother
Speaker 1: fucking chest shut. He ain't got that man, man right,
Speaker 1: share it with your chest. Young fellow wants some smoke,
Speaker 1: Yeah he do. He was talking to somebody like I
Speaker 1: love I like I like I like young Fella.
Speaker 2: I like him. I like young Esco. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I call him young Esco. I'll be sucking
Speaker 2: his name.
Speaker 3: Funny thing about pal So. He hits the game winner
Speaker 3: on Saturday against Detroit. Next night they played Atlanta. He
Speaker 3: was out with the illness back to back.
Speaker 2: Oh, he was in the line of Cunner breaking now,
Speaker 2: oh you know what it is. He went out, he
Speaker 2: was years he wouldn't go get him some limmer pepper wings,
Speaker 2: liver pepper lose.
Speaker 1: Huh, Lou, shit, really, hey, Lou, if you're listening Loon
Speaker 1: doing do a podcast in Magic City while eating wings,
Speaker 1: talking basketball.
Speaker 2: Pulling, pulling up. I know two flaws coming down. I'll
Speaker 2: pull up for that though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Maybe some limming pepper loo. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I won't think Stacy behind me too doing that little things?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Right? You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Just the top.
Speaker 2: Puts down ship, you know that. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Next thing I want to ask you guys about are
Speaker 5: we underestimating how good the thunder are this season? I'm
Speaker 5: gonna name some some head to head games. Are three
Speaker 5: and one against the Nuggets. They're two and one against
Speaker 5: the Clippers. They're three and one against Old State, two
Speaker 5: and oh against Cleveland, one and oh against Boston. They've
Speaker 5: already exceeded their win total for last year. They have
Speaker 5: a solid core of.
Speaker 3: Jacob Chef and s g A. You guys keep speaking
Speaker 3: that they could get upset the first round with one
Speaker 3: of the veteran teams. But are we estimating.
Speaker 2: I don't think we underestimating them, and I ain't say
Speaker 2: they gonna get upset.
Speaker 1: I know Pete talking that ship, I'm talking these young
Speaker 1: boys won't smoke and all this press and all this
Speaker 1: build up.
Speaker 2: Guess who's creating it?
Speaker 1: They are all this, all this that we loving. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, everybody's on the OKC wagging and shit, man,
Speaker 1: guess who's creating that? They are another thing. I actually
Speaker 1: thought that was ironic. Just hit us out.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: When Westbrook was there, he was not only MVP but
Speaker 1: always considered an MVPs right, but he was also NBA's
Speaker 1: best dress. Now, all of a sudden, they got another
Speaker 1: swag delicious point guard who was probably arguably NBA's best dress.
Speaker 2: But he's also probably a league MVP. That's ironic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pull up in a cyber truck last night. Pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I don't think we underestimate Okay, but say a rockstar
Speaker 2: ain't really giving off rockstar ship. You know what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 2: they young and to back.
Speaker 3: Seasons and the FIRSTBA last year and.
Speaker 4: By all accounts right now, no, we ain't underestimating okay, see,
Speaker 4: but at the same time, it's more teams out there
Speaker 4: that got more experienced when the bright lights come on.
Speaker 4: They are a small market team, you know, they don't
Speaker 4: They ain't really had a lot of big TV games.
Speaker 2: So now put them in a playoffs setting. They gotta
Speaker 2: get season.
Speaker 4: Man, It's just I'm not as good as they being
Speaker 4: regular season, as good as they got an MVP player,
Speaker 4: they got great young pieces. It's not the underestimating them,
Speaker 4: it's that we ain't seen it on the big stage yet.
Speaker 4: You know they doing they act over here at the
Speaker 4: Comedy Store, at the at the laugh Actory. You know
Speaker 4: they you know, when you make it big, you go
Speaker 4: to the Staples and perform your act on stage. And
Speaker 4: when they ain't been on that big stage yet.
Speaker 1: So you know, as good as they been in these
Speaker 1: other places, we gotta see it when the when the
Speaker 1: lights come on, that's when you want to see it.
Speaker 1: So if these if so, if they the number one
Speaker 1: seed and they don't make it to the conference finals,
Speaker 1: then what's that saying?
Speaker 2: I mean you should have, could have would have though, Right,
Speaker 2: that's the big question.
Speaker 4: Number one seed, that's pretty much you're supposed to be
Speaker 4: a favorite to go to the conference finals. At least,
Speaker 4: I'm not even sure they a favorite right now. Okay,
Speaker 4: seeing the favorite in the one, I'm not even sure
Speaker 4: even they They got probably the second third best record
Speaker 4: in the league. They not even the top five favorite
Speaker 4: in Vegas right now to win it.
Speaker 1: Well, I ain't picking Vegas to saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, I ain't. They used to know
Speaker 1: who the fuck gonna win.
Speaker 2: It aint Vegas is crazy. They got a crystal ball, right.
Speaker 1: Saying, I ain't going off Vegas to pick who the
Speaker 1: fuck gonna win the NBA chair, That's what I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: she is up there with Minnesota, the Celtics. They they
Speaker 1: are up there with the top five, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So everybody got the same equal opportunity to get there.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying here is is that dude, you have
Speaker 1: the pieces to get through them pieces.
Speaker 2: I think they gotta grow a little more.
Speaker 1: They gotta grow, But bro, guess what you get. Guess
Speaker 1: when you get your your stripe set in the playoffs
Speaker 1: in the laugh Factory. You can't go You can't go
Speaker 1: do fifty eighty thousand unless you went to the laugh
Speaker 1: Factor and made twelve ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty five thousand
Speaker 1: laugh right.
Speaker 2: And then they're boot your ass in the laugh Factory.
Speaker 2: Get your ass out of here. You ain't gonna biding
Speaker 2: down there the laugh Factory, and they get money, and
Speaker 2: everybody showing up. Head. They getting ready, Lord, they get ready.
Speaker 2: Got a big stage. They're gonna make it to the
Speaker 2: to the man, listen, what's the big what's the big stage? Studios?
Speaker 1: Man, excuse me, excuse me, Ladies and gentlemen of the
Speaker 1: OKC thunder.
Speaker 2: Gonna be like this. Did you gonna look over here
Speaker 2: and checking me out? The fuck you're talking about? Right?
Speaker 1: You got big j double the drums right the fuck
Speaker 1: PI ship miss listen, bro.
Speaker 2: This is what you not account for board. The young
Speaker 2: boys WoT we're gonna see. They want to smoke. They
Speaker 2: do want to smoke. After tell us like, okay, you go, man,
Speaker 2: were you watching me? You ain't watching? Young boys? Won't it?
Speaker 2: They're talking, man, they won't We want that? Yeah, we
Speaker 2: want smoke. They won't it That's what I'm saying. To
Speaker 2: see it, Shay helln saying no, won't it here?
Speaker 1: You do, That's what I'm saying. We got that's what Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta see it. And it looked good, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know the fact that we know
Speaker 1: these teams coming in here. Man, can y'all beat up man?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah we can.
Speaker 1: We're finna show y'all. So we're finna sit back, get
Speaker 1: the pop coining, right. That's what I love about this
Speaker 1: playoff and.
Speaker 2: That's the start of building something. When you have been
Speaker 2: to the playoffs and the team hasn't you come in
Speaker 2: there like, yeah, these young motherfucker that's how we win.
Speaker 2: In Atlanta, we played Atlanta.
Speaker 1: We had all this confidence were playing Atlanta, and we
Speaker 1: got to Atlanta and guess what, we saw a whole
Speaker 1: new team with a whole new energy of saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're finna beat the Celtics.
Speaker 2: And guess what.
Speaker 1: The nigg came out there and they beat us, not
Speaker 1: one time, back to back and we listen the second
Speaker 1: day on the flight home, it wasn't cool.
Speaker 2: Everybody was like this, like damn, what we feeling or hey,
Speaker 2: on No. We we had to be on some We're
Speaker 2: finna lose to me, we had to be on that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm saying this to say that you're getting
Speaker 1: everybody's best and if OKC is going to go to anything,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go through somebody.
Speaker 2: Ain't no weak links and none of us. That's all
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But now they gotta understand what being in this position
Speaker 4: is about. Because you go from a team who is
Speaker 4: up and coming, nobody's talking about, Nobody talking about you
Speaker 4: the hunter.
Speaker 2: You win, you win.
Speaker 4: Now when you start winning games and you've beaten t
Speaker 4: people on TV and you're the number one seed, you're
Speaker 4: gonna be hunted.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: This is why you're picking the seeds because you feel
Speaker 1: like the seas has been through this. They have been
Speaker 1: through that, They've not been through the ground. And I
Speaker 1: got here, then I got back up. They back on it.
Speaker 1: They feel some type of way.
Speaker 2: They to hunt it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but now they're gonna come in, Oh, this is
Speaker 4: the number one seed. Teams is looking forward.
Speaker 2: That's what you said.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. They gotta prepare for that mentality,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. That's a different mentality when
Speaker 4: you that team like me, the Hunter and the Hunting.
Speaker 4: This is two different mentalities on the team because when
Speaker 4: you be a Hunted, you gonna get everybody best. Now
Speaker 4: you're gonna get everybody best.
Speaker 1: And to me, p that's what separates the Celtics as
Speaker 1: a young team in the future with all the other Minnesota's,
Speaker 1: the Okay Sees, the Indiana's, that's the difference. These boys
Speaker 1: been to the finals that got beep. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, That it did, the Miami Series and all
Speaker 1: that ship, right, and then you play these other teams
Speaker 1: that's fresh right there.
Speaker 2: I see, I see what you said. Yeah, they go
Speaker 2: from a team that I ain't wanted Celtics ain't want it,
Speaker 2: but they the Hunting. But what I'm saying four or
Speaker 2: five situation with you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying right Listen, no team want
Speaker 1: to see Broun unless you Denver because you got justice
Speaker 1: equal star power.
Speaker 2: You don't want to see Bron.
Speaker 3: What about Phoenix to see Bron?
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody want to see Bron. Bron come with the league,
Speaker 1: get your foul troubles and all this. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If I'm mister Davis, Man, see it.
Speaker 2: Man, you supposed to man that that. Man, I'll be
Speaker 2: using that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like a player can get
Speaker 1: you all in the bonus and get you know, calls
Speaker 1: and stuff like this, even though the Lakers are struggling
Speaker 1: right now, talking about them and get no calls on
Speaker 1: and they didn't get no calls to other stuff. But man, man,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be in no series against Bron.
Speaker 2: Feel me. I want the game down steph either. This
Speaker 2: pace is too much for the older teams. Nobody.
Speaker 4: I mean you the pace, doll, it's one hundred. Everybody's
Speaker 4: averaging one hundred and fifteen points. Like yeah, like that's
Speaker 4: that pace is too much for the regular sings for
Speaker 4: older teams to get through.
Speaker 2: Like I said, Bron and Steff just got to make
Speaker 2: it to the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Everything is calmer me everything, you know, the lights come on,
Speaker 4: everything getting magnified.
Speaker 2: He's brighter shoe.
Speaker 4: And don't get no distractions here the locker room, that ship.
Speaker 4: Don't don't get that. Older teams how to handle that.
Speaker 4: These young teams, you know, you don't know how they
Speaker 4: gonna handle all that stuff. It's a lot of components
Speaker 4: that come with, you know, being going through a playoff run,
Speaker 4: you know, distractions, family on the road.
Speaker 1: I like what I see out of those two young
Speaker 1: teams do. I love Minnesota's grit and I love okay
Speaker 1: sees grit. And it's gonna be dope to see those
Speaker 1: teams get better and also grow from experience and grow
Speaker 1: from you know, playoff experience and stuff.
Speaker 2: So who your sleeper team in the West.
Speaker 1: My sleeper team in the West, keep keeping it one
Speaker 1: hundred is Phoenix. I feel like Phoenix is kind of
Speaker 1: so a team with durant Own, it is a sleeper team.
Speaker 1: Crazy think about what I'm saying the fall. But my
Speaker 1: thing is this, though we put Bron on such a
Speaker 1: pedestal and Bron losing and he went in, it's just
Speaker 1: like it's magnified. I was going, you don't put KD
Speaker 1: in that same in class or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: while we don't, you know, like when KD is like
Speaker 1: how is a KD land team a sleeper team? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, though, if we look at him
Speaker 1: like that, I got the Kings and the Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 1: That's the sleepers in the West. Because no one talks
Speaker 1: about the Kings just get utterly disrespectful. I mean disrespected,
Speaker 1: like the Kings have a body of work that you
Speaker 1: can throw in here with everybody else with the inflection
Speaker 1: of everything else. They've had some players do some dope
Speaker 1: shit this morning, I mean do some dope shit this
Speaker 1: season and uh throughout the year. Throughout this year, some bonents, uh,
Speaker 1: their stars have been real stars. The other night, I
Speaker 1: watched Deerren Fox get pissed and take the game off.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that, but the motherfucker
Speaker 1: ain't crazy. I forget what they plans playing somebody the
Speaker 1: cup of game. He took the couple game over, did
Speaker 1: get the fire, came down and went crazy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They're the biggest disrespected team in the league.
Speaker 2: To me, respect for the Kings, I'm just I got respect.
Speaker 2: I'm saying disrespected because they.
Speaker 4: A higher seed last year, they got popped in the
Speaker 4: first round. Right, they should have had an All Star.
Speaker 1: Okay, I give you that man with the body of
Speaker 1: work that everybody else no doubt.
Speaker 2: No doubt. So that's what I'm saying. They are the
Speaker 2: sleepers to me.
Speaker 1: You going there thinking this sweet shit man Sack is
Speaker 1: one of them, one of them cities, one of them
Speaker 1: teams where they got dogs on the team where you know,
Speaker 1: so I'm saying, and then two I'm saying, a team
Speaker 1: like Phoenix has it showed the consistency and being the
Speaker 1: top dog. So you know, Browny Bill, his inconsistency and
Speaker 1: being in and out has fucked up the whole in
Speaker 1: fluctuation of the Suns. Because when when Katie and Booke
Speaker 1: got to go into Okay, you consolidated, I consolidate, Okay,
Speaker 1: we gotta it looks like they got to actually make
Speaker 1: up for his absence when he's in there.
Speaker 2: It flows like a wheel.
Speaker 1: You see the real Devin Booker coming off. How he
Speaker 1: might have something thirty and a half time and have
Speaker 1: forty fifty.
Speaker 2: That's what we're looking for.
Speaker 1: It When you got Devin book and gotta consolidate and
Speaker 1: find Grayson Allen and find kd you you ain't even
Speaker 1: got to You ain't got a weapon, your one of
Speaker 1: your weapons ain't even set to be in to be
Speaker 1: in this equation.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Saying, And that's an inconsistency that nobody can really look
Speaker 1: at phoenix and put bread on.
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't lie.
Speaker 1: You look at their pieces on paper, You're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been on this all day. And then you see
Speaker 1: them out there. Oh man, oh man, oh man. You
Speaker 1: look at it, You're like, man, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want to put bread on that. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: In the West, my sleeper in the West. I ain't
Speaker 2: get no sleep in the East.
Speaker 4: So my sleeper in the West, meaning that this team
Speaker 4: can lose in the first round or get to the
Speaker 4: conference finals.
Speaker 1: No, that's a while I'm talking about sleeper. It ain't
Speaker 1: nobody looking at motherfucker. Don't think they're gonna do show.
Speaker 1: I said, my sleeper is New Orleans. Oh yeah, New Orleans,
Speaker 1: my sleeping. They are real sleeper too, what five night, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're my sleeper. I like that one.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: I want to kind of switch heres here.
Speaker 5: Ricky Ruby recently did an interview and he spoke with
Speaker 5: his mental health struggles in the league.
Speaker 3: You recently retired from the NBA, and this quote kind of.
Speaker 5: Stuck out to me, and I wanted to ask you
Speaker 5: guys about it, he said. The player eight the person,
Speaker 5: So the question a half of you guys, saw hard
Speaker 5: Is it to separate your NBA from the person at home?
Speaker 5: Is it tough to balance kind of your on court
Speaker 5: life versus your home life and how do they kind
Speaker 5: of intermingle?
Speaker 1: Not for me, you know, I like to think that.
Speaker 1: And then you know, piece are real friends. So you know,
Speaker 1: I got real friends around me that you know if
Speaker 1: I'm out of character for something, you know, they're the
Speaker 1: first ones to notice or to be able to say
Speaker 1: something to me. Also family, But for the most part,
Speaker 1: people know that when I am or when I worked out,
Speaker 1: or when when I was playing and I was training
Speaker 1: and I was locked in. I like to think that
Speaker 1: I was the definition of locked in.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: I had two systems, and when I played, it was
Speaker 1: one system, and when I wasn't playing, it was another.
Speaker 1: And I came up with these two systems just off
Speaker 1: of what I needed to be both PI you tell
Speaker 1: you when you are training, you are complete machining, and
Speaker 1: you in an animal mode and it's at one hundred
Speaker 1: percent and it's coming.
Speaker 2: At a thousand horsepower of a.
Speaker 1: Magnitude like on some Mac truck. Shit Like I can't
Speaker 1: even explain the intensity. And with these workhouse because you're
Speaker 1: doing early morning shit in or it takes to get
Speaker 1: up early morning to go dominate something. You have to
Speaker 1: have that in you program, right, and then you when
Speaker 1: you start you know, attacking weights, and you start bettering
Speaker 1: yourself with explosion and stuff.
Speaker 2: Bro all this takes on like a beasting.
Speaker 1: You Like when I watch the Hope, I understand the Hope,
Speaker 1: but also when I'm off the when I'm off the court, PILL.
Speaker 2: Tell you I'm a lot loose chill. I like to laugh,
Speaker 2: I like to be funny.
Speaker 1: I'm super duper not the guy that you just walk
Speaker 1: off the court with, you know, I'm totally opposite in
Speaker 1: my everyday life. Yeah, And I think that you got to.
Speaker 2: Have the two.
Speaker 1: It's very important to have a fucking balance with the two.
Speaker 2: And I gotta say this.
Speaker 1: They teach you how to turn the hulk on, but
Speaker 1: no one teaches you how to turn the hulk off.
Speaker 1: And turn the hulk off is.
Speaker 2: A real thing. And having that competitive energy to go
Speaker 2: somewhere is a real thing.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know how to handle it, because
Speaker 1: people know you for what you do on the floor,
Speaker 1: people don't notice this more softer, more calmer you over
Speaker 1: here so when people see you in a calm setting
Speaker 1: like this, they almost shocked, like, Kg, you ain't growling
Speaker 1: and you ain't you know what I'm saying, But it's
Speaker 1: how people see you.
Speaker 2: But you have to have a balance.
Speaker 1: And if you don't have a balance, one can't actually
Speaker 1: eat the other if I'm being on And.
Speaker 4: I also think that we are in an error to
Speaker 4: where everything is more magnified and more more talked about,
Speaker 4: more than ever and so and what I mean by that, like,
Speaker 4: let's just take like, you know what you're doing now
Speaker 4: we're talking about Rubio, he's in retirement.
Speaker 2: He's talking about dealing with with the anxiety and anxiety
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think a lot of that has been
Speaker 1: common for a lot of people who've been in the
Speaker 1: limelight who go into retirement because now you you in
Speaker 1: a whole different lifestyle because you've been waking up used
Speaker 1: to doing this, So.
Speaker 4: Now you home and you gotta learn a new pattern,
Speaker 4: a scene, a whole new lifestyle exactly. And then you
Speaker 4: got social media on top of that. What you're doing,
Speaker 4: where you're at, when you've seen you makes all of that.
Speaker 2: And so I think we're in a time in the
Speaker 2: air to.
Speaker 1: Where depression and anxiety, all those things are amplified because
Speaker 1: of the eyes on us, the cameras on us, the
Speaker 1: social media, the pressure from from family, friends, kids, everything
Speaker 1: is way more magnified now. Like you know, if you
Speaker 1: go from an NBA star, you home with your kids,
Speaker 1: and now you seeing your daughter all on Instagram doing
Speaker 1: stuff she probably not supposed to do.
Speaker 2: You know, that could stress a father.
Speaker 1: There's so many, so many layers in the off the
Speaker 1: court and today's society that you don't see when you're playing.
Speaker 1: When you start, when you go home and retirement, you
Speaker 1: start seeing stuff right because you miss out on so
Speaker 1: many things at home, and it can lead to a
Speaker 1: lot of depression.
Speaker 4: You know a lot of times you like you missing
Speaker 4: what you've been doing. And adjustment to life after basketball.
Speaker 4: A lot of people deal with depression and that just
Speaker 4: dealing with life after basketball, because now get real, you know, life,
Speaker 4: get real now. Doc used to always say, and I
Speaker 4: ever say, he said, guys, we live this is not real.
Speaker 4: He used to always say, this life, this is we
Speaker 4: live in the fantasy world. Y'all enjoy this, y'all don't
Speaker 4: even know what real life really is. Once real life
Speaker 4: smack you in your face and you start really seeing it. Man,
Speaker 4: You like damn that part, that part, and that's part.
Speaker 4: They don't teach you that transition or show you that
Speaker 4: transition or put people in place to help you with
Speaker 4: those transitions.
Speaker 2: When you come in. It can be any field.
Speaker 4: It can be you know, whatever your possession profession is,
Speaker 4: and you on camera and you in the limelight from
Speaker 4: being an actur, youcy of an actors, actresships, sports athletes
Speaker 4: all around the industry. When that when it's taken away
Speaker 4: from you or when it's finally gone, that transition, you know,
Speaker 4: who's your mentors, who are you talking to? Who are
Speaker 4: you uh surrounding yourself with to make that transition?
Speaker 5: That will say is he retired from the NBA, he
Speaker 5: took a little higher as and then he just recently
Speaker 5: signed with FC Barcelona basically.
Speaker 2: Trying to go back.
Speaker 5: Yes, but you retired from the NBA over about his
Speaker 5: mental health struggles while he.
Speaker 3: Was in the league.
Speaker 1: We had just discussed, well that that that transition Pete
Speaker 1: talking about is a dark transition too, because you know
Speaker 1: what happens. You can't do for everybody You've been doing
Speaker 1: for everybody leaves, and you look up and you yourself,
Speaker 1: and all this whole ship stops, and everybody.
Speaker 2: You've been A, A, B and C. And when the A, B,
Speaker 2: C and stops, so did them. And you're by yourself.
Speaker 1: And for a lot of people, it's a shell shop
Speaker 1: and keeping it one hundred man when all the collapse
Speaker 1: and all the screams and all the ro rods stop,
Speaker 1: and you and you laying in I can still play.
Speaker 1: I can some people. Some athletes need that. Some some
Speaker 1: people need the row rad some people need that.
Speaker 4: Then it's hard when you it's hard to open up
Speaker 4: when you play, because when you looked at on a pedestal,
Speaker 4: you know, people expect you to be strong, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And Ricky ruby o case and that's
Speaker 4: why you know, now that he's not on the top
Speaker 4: stage of the NBA and he's away from the NBA stage,
Speaker 4: it's easier for him to kind of like speak his peace,
Speaker 4: speak his truth because you're out of it. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: when you're in it, it's hard. You expect it to
Speaker 4: be strong, head of the family, head of the household,
Speaker 4: head of this and you're not supposed to be looked
Speaker 4: upon as somebody who's vulnerable, right.
Speaker 1: And the reality parts of it. Motherfuckers is human, yo, right,
Speaker 1: motherfuckers is human. You don't think we feel. You don't
Speaker 1: think we got emotions. You don't think we have man,
Speaker 1: motherfucker man, y'all have no idea. Professional athletes every day
Speaker 1: got probably fifty things they're battling and they got nothing
Speaker 1: to do with them because everybody sees them as a
Speaker 1: god or someone that can actually help them or change
Speaker 1: their reality. And some of these athletes ain't even conditioned
Speaker 1: to even deal with nor.
Speaker 2: Even have this. You understand, we ain't ask for all
Speaker 2: of this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you get you get put in situations where you gotta,
Speaker 1: like he said, be the strong one, or be the
Speaker 1: bigger person, or be the person to be able to
Speaker 1: help somebody out of this.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Man, We are human beings.
Speaker 1: We make mistakes, We hit our heads, motherfucker's tripp and fall,
Speaker 1: we bump our knees, like y'all, every fucking thing. It's
Speaker 1: the same shit. We got kids to hoole shit. So
Speaker 1: we're not immune to anything. If anything was magnified a
Speaker 1: thousand times because people think you.
Speaker 2: God, some of the things did not see you do
Speaker 2: and you know you survive in a B and C.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But yeah, man, shout to
Speaker 1: Rick Rude. Man, I hope he figured it out. And
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna say this, man, mental health has always
Speaker 1: been around. It's just how we all chose to deal
Speaker 1: with it and how we all chose to battle something.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like real shit, man, You'll
Speaker 1: think motherfuckers came into the league or was in the
Speaker 1: league and doubted something or had a point where they
Speaker 1: want this as confident or whatever.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah. But one thing you didn't do,
Speaker 1: you never showed it. And I like to think that
Speaker 1: a lot of people was masking it, and however they
Speaker 1: mashed it. And this is when you get sobriety problems,
Speaker 1: just when you get all the other problems, all the
Speaker 1: vice problems and shit, because no one teaches you how
Speaker 1: to deal with this. I like to think that the league, actually,
Speaker 1: when we came into the league, the league started giving
Speaker 1: us programs and giving us a chance to talk to
Speaker 1: the ogs when they come in and give us solutions,
Speaker 1: and shit, man, no solutions.
Speaker 2: Help to sit here and talk to a guy who
Speaker 2: was married when.
Speaker 1: We were married, or to talk about relationship, to talk
Speaker 1: about money, and to talk about stuff that we was
Speaker 1: going through, but we were sending here listening. Man said
Speaker 1: a lot to me as the listener and as the
Speaker 1: person that was absorbing. You gotta have these solutions, and
Speaker 1: you got to have these conversations so that people can
Speaker 1: pour from those things and actually help themselves.
Speaker 2: Right that shot the rig rude man, keep going rude.
Speaker 5: Next thing, I want to talk to you guys about ticket.
Speaker 5: You brought this to our attention. Jonathan Cavoni, he's a
Speaker 5: draft analyst, released the STAB that stated nearly half of
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty and twenty twenty one top forty are
Speaker 5: no longer with the team that drafted them. So are
Speaker 5: NBA teams in patient or is this a youth basketball
Speaker 5: development problem in America?
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of both. You understand, for
Speaker 1: players that were drafted three four years ago not being
Speaker 1: in the league.
Speaker 3: What the team that drafted them? So the team gave
Speaker 3: up on.
Speaker 2: Them, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So let's say one hundred players came into the league,
Speaker 1: forty forty players are now on a whole different wave, or.
Speaker 2: That's scary, that's scary.
Speaker 1: Not only not only are those unguarantees, but those are
Speaker 1: teams just sitting here looking at oh and then getting
Speaker 1: off it. Like I hope, I hope today's players understand
Speaker 1: the importance of character, work, ethic, vision, how you work
Speaker 1: with others, Like like, teams ain't fucking around if you're
Speaker 1: not like some upper exchellent talent and you're not like
Speaker 1: breaking barriers and shit man, teams looking at you like
Speaker 1: we can get another one of you, okay, And you're
Speaker 1: looking more expendable these days. So have something of your
Speaker 1: superpower that you know can't be can't be you know
Speaker 1: can't be duplicated to the best of your knowledge, or
Speaker 1: come up with something that that's yours and own it
Speaker 1: because if not, Man, if you don't have a superpower
Speaker 1: that's adamant and preparatory to you, or you be in
Speaker 1: some shit, real shit. Think about the league. The league
Speaker 1: think they got everything in it right until they see
Speaker 1: something they don't have. So you gotta come in with
Speaker 1: the natitude like boom, this how' much stay here and
Speaker 1: this is gonna be my foundation, and this is what's
Speaker 1: gonna ride. This is what I'm riding into the sunset
Speaker 1: with man forty Man, that's scary.
Speaker 3: Listen, listen to top forty players.
Speaker 5: So this isn't even late second round, guys. This is
Speaker 5: the top thirty and then ten of the second round.
Speaker 5: So we're not even wow about forty one sixty.
Speaker 2: You hear from from what year?
Speaker 3: From twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, four.
Speaker 2: Of those draft processes and how many he said, forty
Speaker 2: of them?
Speaker 1: Forty percent of them gone or either own another team,
Speaker 1: let go by the team, the drift like they ain't
Speaker 1: even give you one or two years to get it together.
Speaker 1: They all no, go here, take the bread, get out,
Speaker 1: go okay. Next, and then he asked, you know, is
Speaker 1: is that formula like a formulat to where you can
Speaker 1: actually sustain or is the league realistic in that ability
Speaker 1: where first off, you gotta let things, you gotta let
Speaker 1: things mature, and you gotta let things be in the
Speaker 1: process to where you'll see good bones With Shae, Alexander
Speaker 1: probably worked out. I'm sure he wasn't doing all things
Speaker 1: he was doing now, but it was something to where
Speaker 1: somebody said, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I can use that.
Speaker 1: So it's gotta be something in you that the team sees.
Speaker 2: Now if you're not.
Speaker 1: Consistent with that a lot of times, a lot of
Speaker 1: times teams see you every day and see your consistency,
Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like the big question mink on Wiseman. Wiseman was supposed
Speaker 1: to be with Kaminga and this group that send Golden State,
Speaker 1: that was supposed to be there. The fact that you
Speaker 1: moved him and traded him made everybody think, like, what's
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 2: Why would you do that? So then what so that
Speaker 2: begs to tell me?
Speaker 4: You know, so many times we say the players are
Speaker 4: better today, how could that be if some many of
Speaker 4: these top picks is ending up out the league or
Speaker 4: like he said in thirty in three to four years.
Speaker 2: Of the first round of people drafted not even in
Speaker 2: the league or with the team that drafted them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so how is that within that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, can't make it through the first contract yet on
Speaker 4: the one team as a top three four pick.
Speaker 1: I didn't say these kids are better, but I said
Speaker 1: that these kids are doing things.
Speaker 4: But a lot of times we drafting off potential. All
Speaker 4: of these with drafting and that's your fault. So the
Speaker 4: potential KG started this, I take that.
Speaker 2: I'll put that on.
Speaker 1: Because it's also why you're taking me. It's also why
Speaker 1: you love me. It's also why you you invested in me.
Speaker 1: So it goes both ways with potential. If okay, I
Speaker 1: showed them something, now I got to be consistent with
Speaker 1: whatever I showed.
Speaker 2: If I don't show that, then you get off it.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it is. That's anything.
Speaker 4: That's anything. This is what everybody's looking for. That next
Speaker 4: Kevin Gardnet, that next Tracy McGrady potential where you can
Speaker 4: just see, you don't feel out that next Giannis instead
Speaker 4: of sometimes you gotta put some stock in these guys
Speaker 4: that have been in college three years, four years, that
Speaker 4: understand a role.
Speaker 2: Because some of that.
Speaker 4: Stuff in college. Defense in college translates to the NBA. Whoever,
Speaker 4: that defensive player of the year that trans in college,
Speaker 4: that translates to the NBA because every defensive player of
Speaker 4: the year top defended I was in college, he was
Speaker 4: that in the league. So we gotta start scouts, gms.
Speaker 4: You gotta start putting more stock into not only overseas
Speaker 4: because you know what the overseas players are doing in
Speaker 4: the league.
Speaker 1: But these three four year players sometimes you gotta use
Speaker 1: some of these picks to this guy who's in his
Speaker 1: junior year or senior year, but he's dominated. That's an
Speaker 1: older generation. Now that player has been ousted by the
Speaker 1: European player. You know why, coach, The European player knows
Speaker 1: how to play basketball, he knows how to pick and roll,
Speaker 1: he knows IQ, he has IQ.
Speaker 2: All that shit.
Speaker 1: It ain't I think the American players think it's about
Speaker 1: ones and being able to go ones. Bro, It's just
Speaker 1: that we always look at we be We'll be with
Speaker 1: the thirtieth pick and be like all right, or on
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth pick and we're like, let's get this kid.
Speaker 1: He's six eight, he can jump out the gym. He
Speaker 1: can't shoot a lick, he can't really drive it, but
Speaker 1: we could teach him that in three years he gonna
Speaker 1: get stronger than instead of going for that guy. And
Speaker 1: Cole's like, man, he's a high level defender and he
Speaker 1: can knock down threes. He's twenty two, but that's the dude.
Speaker 1: You could drive him play a round right away. But
Speaker 1: they always trying to go for the home run, and
Speaker 1: so That's why you see all these players who in
Speaker 1: and out the league, because they're drafting all these potential
Speaker 1: and then it's gonna make those players that that that
Speaker 1: that all the players we're talking about, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a times ten because those players are
Speaker 1: gonna be valued even more than But yeah, we're in trouble, man.
Speaker 2: And you know what I see.
Speaker 1: I see all this unfinished product going to the G
Speaker 1: League and being able to develop. The league is gonna
Speaker 1: have all these all these players that's going to other
Speaker 1: places had a superpower or had some type of potential
Speaker 1: to be able to get the opportunity to either be
Speaker 1: drafted or even be in the room.
Speaker 2: Right that that is not gonna go.
Speaker 1: Unnoticed on all leagues. Some of that town's going up
Speaker 1: in the league, some of that towns go in the
Speaker 1: back in the league. Some of that town's go in
Speaker 1: other places. But I do not think that you just
Speaker 1: get off one or two years. Na, Na, there was
Speaker 1: a point where the number one or two pick was
Speaker 1: a sure fire off star fact or in one or
Speaker 1: two years he would he or she was going to
Speaker 1: be an AFT.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I agree with that let's let's
Speaker 2: get to that game. Picture of the wig. How I
Speaker 2: do last week? Oh yeah, that sound about right. Used
Speaker 2: about to say some wove ship. I'm still up. I'm
Speaker 2: still up. Oh that's sound about right. Mother, You went
Speaker 2: like right.
Speaker 1: You know he was off for like two weeks though,
Speaker 1: eat up toward the playoffs. I want to hear that
Speaker 1: ship and that's what I'm saying. Bullshit, man, he get
Speaker 1: the one game in the playoffs. Baby, want to hear
Speaker 1: that she get the one game hero shot.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go Saturday, Saturday. We just talked about
Speaker 3: this earlier.
Speaker 2: To get that.
Speaker 3: Lakers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get that. You got the nuggets at Lakers? Who
Speaker 2: you got pee nuggets at Lakers. I don't like the
Speaker 2: way Lake has been looking lately.
Speaker 4: In Denver, they like, all right, this second half of
Speaker 4: the season, guys, it's starting to hit the button. And Joker,
Speaker 4: when I seen him go out there, he gave he
Speaker 4: gave Draymond like thirty six, sixteen and sixteen. I was like,
Speaker 4: hold on, you know, and Draymond, elite defender. If you're
Speaker 4: doing that, what you think you're gonna do to the legs,
Speaker 4: you know, we're going Denver on this one.
Speaker 2: Player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got Denverer too, and I got Joke as the
Speaker 1: m VP. No one's playing at a higher clip. I
Speaker 1: think Luca may be second in Shae Shay's second and third,
Speaker 1: but I got Shay second. Actually, But what Jokers doing
Speaker 1: in our league not even athletic. He jumps probably this
Speaker 1: high right heat. Like, what he's doing in our league
Speaker 1: is just he's ripping. He's ripping the he's ripping the
Speaker 1: records apart. I think Pete, they showed a stat where
Speaker 1: he's had a triple double on every team in the league.
Speaker 1: Damn Careal, that's cold, bro, he bro right now, Joker
Speaker 1: is more dominant than Will right now. They got they
Speaker 1: got some niggas taking him over shot. They got, they
Speaker 1: got they got taking Joker over Will.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 3: I mean he's twenty nine. I'll just read his resume
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 5: Six time All Star, NBA champ, five time All NBA,
Speaker 5: two times MVP finals at VP, he's years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just think in the center error, man, y'all,
Speaker 1: are y'all a blow? If y'all thinking I'm taking a
Speaker 1: Joker over shot? I love you, I love Nicole.
Speaker 2: It up.
Speaker 1: What he's doing is unpresident it's about this time now
Speaker 1: and this time that's what I'm not doing that compared
Speaker 1: to listen, what he's doing is unbelievable. Real ship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about usually do have to be athletically enough.
Speaker 2: It ain't nobody who can really match up with him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: But you know, Shack one shooting three, Shack one Domino,
Speaker 1: motherfucker behind the back. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: what what Joker is doing to the game?
Speaker 2: Bro? Bro? He's bro yeah, oh yeah. We got the
Speaker 2: Lakers and I'm worried about Are you worried about the Lakers?
Speaker 2: I mean, the Lakers are who I thought they were
Speaker 2: Sunday Sunday.
Speaker 3: It's we got the Warriors right now.
Speaker 1: Just in Boston though, right Who you got? And I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear I'm gonna try to get to that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that ship who.
Speaker 2: Now? I got the kids this week? Ship? Who you got? Man?
Speaker 4: I think this has gotta be a statement game on
Speaker 4: national TV. And you know these type of games come
Speaker 4: up throughout the course of the season where you know
Speaker 4: everybody gonna be gonna have their popcorn watching this and
Speaker 4: by no ways it's dis revenged. The Golden State did
Speaker 4: what they had to do to win the championship versus Boston.
Speaker 4: But Boston respects Golden State and no matter what their
Speaker 4: record is, Golden State is Golden State. With Steph Curry's
Speaker 4: out there, so they gonna be up for this game
Speaker 4: and they gonna look at they gonna measure this is
Speaker 4: another measuring stick. Even though Golden State record Donna say contender,
Speaker 4: it's still a measuring stick when you played in Right now,
Speaker 4: when it's Steph Clay and Draymond out there, and I
Speaker 4: think the Celtics make a statement would a win.
Speaker 2: I think the same thing. Damn, I don't like I
Speaker 2: always agree with you when you're saying some real ship.
Speaker 2: Uh two to add on what you said, man, and.
Speaker 4: Hold on another thing before you get on your point.
Speaker 4: We gotta start putting Tatum in these MVP talks.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on now, if I'm being team they,
Speaker 1: I mean they headed shoulders the best best team.
Speaker 2: I mean, if we look at the years of Criterias,
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 1: Player or the best team, it's Tatum and he can
Speaker 1: make a loud statement with this game. I actually want
Speaker 1: him to win him and Anthony Edwards, I want you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But I had a chance to
Speaker 1: be with on another thing, you know what. I had
Speaker 1: a chance to be with her, And I don't think
Speaker 1: just working with him being around, I don't think like
Speaker 1: MVP is that.
Speaker 4: Important for him regular season. He wants he want to
Speaker 4: get that title.
Speaker 1: Truth for me, yeah, he wants to get a title
Speaker 1: first before you get an MVP or some individuals.
Speaker 4: Traditionally, and I'm gonna put this in camera, guys, the
Speaker 4: MVP of the league almost never wins the championship.
Speaker 2: It's almost like a jinx. It's almost like a thin. So,
Speaker 2: if history holds true, who was the last MVP in
Speaker 2: a season to win MVP and the championship? But before that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, cold, no, nope, no, Jordan might have been Jordan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like twenty it's like fifteen years nobody that
Speaker 1: did that. Or maybe Duncan no shock, that's the last one,
Speaker 1: non Timmy, Timmy, Yeah, maybe Dunk three. But it's rare three,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You see, the rarity of winning
Speaker 1: the MVP and the title doesn't happen. It doesn't happen
Speaker 1: in the same year.
Speaker 3: Another thing we looked up.
Speaker 5: We talked about a guy averaging thirty and winning to
Speaker 5: win the NBA Championship goes all the way back.
Speaker 2: To Jordan j Yeah, damn.
Speaker 4: So it's all lining up for JT. He not averaging
Speaker 4: thirty and he probably won't win MVP. Really, so it's
Speaker 4: lining up for championship.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: You both got Celtics in this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the season one. Cool.
Speaker 3: Next game. We just talked about this earlier. Knicks at Calves.
Speaker 1: Oh, the Knicks and Calves? Who are you liking this?
Speaker 1: And the NIXT ain't for a thrott or either. Let's
Speaker 1: just be clear, O g out.
Speaker 2: Goddamn Randall ain't random playing. I know he he's out.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: These are two big listen, but the NIXT and making
Speaker 1: noise with the little crew they got bro straight up.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not rolling with the Instagram models right now?
Speaker 2: You rolling what you got? You got to Cleveland Calves? Yeah,
Speaker 2: this on the road. What is up?
Speaker 3: This is Cleveland?
Speaker 2: Oh man ship? Yeah, without random them. Yeah, he's making
Speaker 2: this easy today we're now random and O GM. That's hard.
Speaker 2: That's hard to go in there. You're going to Cleveland
Speaker 2: right now, Cleveland, rolling man, And I'm going with Cleveland.
Speaker 2: We were calling how we see it right, She's gonna
Speaker 2: take our filter off and it's gonna blow you off
Speaker 2: off of that filter. But what's that? What is this?
Speaker 2: That's it?
Speaker 3: Last game day? Sunday's got some good games.
Speaker 1: Thunder at Phoenix, Oh, the Thunder at Phoenix. Who you
Speaker 1: liking this, Pete? You're talking all that ship?
Speaker 2: Who you like?
Speaker 4: Thunder got a winning record against winning team and playoff team.
Speaker 2: Who you like?
Speaker 4: But I understand that. Durant and Booker understand the moments.
Speaker 4: And I'm going with Phoenix.
Speaker 2: I got the young boys in this one. I'm going young.
Speaker 2: He got the young Lions.
Speaker 1: Yeah they yeah, Yeah, they going here and smack the
Speaker 1: Sons in the mouth. Yeah, it's gonna be like, yeah
Speaker 1: we here. Yeah they got in ten two Phoenix to
Speaker 1: gotta started having some signature wins. They do, they do, Okay,
Speaker 1: s got a strong seven two. Bro, that's another thing too.
Speaker 1: You feel me the Mozillah Joe's and the Wallace's and
Speaker 1: Jay Doves like Bro and in the giddy and you.
Speaker 2: Feel me, man, Yeah, I'm going with the young boys.
Speaker 2: Give me. Okay, see that's the picture of the work
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah h