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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls podcast, where we

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Speaker 1: discuss all things mental health, personal development, and all the

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Speaker 1: small decisions we can make to become the best possible

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Speaker 1: versions of ourselves. I'm your host, Dr Joy Harden Bradford,

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Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. To get more information

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Speaker 1: and resources, visit the website at Therapy for Black Girls

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Speaker 1: dot com. And while I hope you love listening to

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Speaker 1: and learning from the podcast, it is not meant to

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Speaker 1: be a substitute for a relationship with a licensed mental

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Speaker 1: health professional. Hey, y'all, welcome to session eight of the

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Speaker 1: Therapy for Black Girls podcast. We are continuing our celebration

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Speaker 1: of Mental Health Awareness Month by discussing relationships. So the

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Speaker 1: first week we discussed friendships, and last week we discussed

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Speaker 1: relationships between moms and daughters. This week we'll be talking

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Speaker 1: about romantic relationships. So in the no co pay Needed

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Speaker 1: segment this week, we're going to talk about the top

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Speaker 1: seven ways that you're not getting what you want and

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Speaker 1: need in relationships. So the very first one is we're

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Speaker 1: afraid to ask for it. So in casual relationships or

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Speaker 1: non committed relationships, this might look like um playing as

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Speaker 1: if you don't want something serious and the hosts that

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Speaker 1: eventually they'll discover just how wonderful you are and want

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Speaker 1: to have something more serious and committed with you. Um

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Speaker 1: and in a committed relationship, this might look like not

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Speaker 1: asserting your needs. So if you feel like you need

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Speaker 1: more words of affirmation or with like more physical affection,

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Speaker 1: but not asking for it because you're afraid that your

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Speaker 1: because you are making your needs a second priority to theirs.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of times we are afraid to ask

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Speaker 1: for what we want in relationships. One because of a

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Speaker 1: fear of abandonment, so for a fear that if you

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Speaker 1: And the second reason why we sometimes don't ask for

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Speaker 1: what we want in relationships is because we don't think

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Speaker 1: we deserve it. So if you don't actually feel like

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Speaker 1: then you're going to act in those ways either consciously

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Speaker 1: reason why you're not getting what you need and want

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Speaker 1: in relationships is that you're passive in the process. So

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Speaker 1: for most other things in our lives, we have a

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Speaker 1: very serious plan for how we're going to get there. Um,

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Speaker 1: But for some reason, a lot of us tend to

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Speaker 1: somebody wonderful that is going to show up without us

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Speaker 1: having to do very much work. And so if for

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Speaker 1: every other thing in your life that has been significant

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Speaker 1: and what do you need to do to be more active?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to try online dating. Do you need

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Speaker 1: to talk to your family and friends about the fact

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Speaker 1: So sometimes this looks like um listening to Grandma and

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Speaker 1: core value is not really to just have good sexual relationships,

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Speaker 1: and what you really want is to have a meaningful relationship,

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Speaker 1: then pretending as if you don't really care or you

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Speaker 1: The number five reason why we are not getting what

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Speaker 1: So I know that there has been a lot again

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