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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 5: with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi, and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 6: It is Tuesday, October fourteenth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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Speaker 6: episode number fifty seven. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go, let's talk a little Cowboys football.

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Speaker 2: It's a rec that day when we start moving the

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Speaker 2: conversation for six day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as a reset day, we're gonna we're gonna start

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Speaker 6: moving the conversation forward.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: In the second segment, Brian is gonna have some games

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Speaker 6: for us inside the brain of Brian brought Us and

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Speaker 6: that should be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: In the third segment, you more calm today.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yesterday you were a little heated.

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Speaker 3: No, he almost broke this.

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Speaker 2: Went live, So that's today, that is true. Are you

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Speaker 2: an angry person? We need to talk?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 2: And are you an angry person?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 4: You gotta know your teammates. You know, you gotta what

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Speaker 4: you're trying to say. Try your teammates off side every

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Speaker 4: once in a while.

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Speaker 2: You did yesterday. You kind of got me a little heated.

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Speaker 2: You trying to make it seem like I was saying

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Speaker 2: I was surprised by if you were surprised, I was nuts.

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Speaker 2: I was looking right at that camera when I said that.

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Speaker 2: Every one of you went, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean because you was wrong. You would tell you why

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Speaker 3: that is right?

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Speaker 6: Because Brian, where he starts, he starts, he starts baiting you,

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Speaker 6: but then you won't.

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Speaker 7: Let you talk.

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Speaker 2: So he's baiting you, but he won't let you talk.

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Speaker 3: Tell me why Dak Prest is the worst quarterback and

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Speaker 3: tell me why, right, tell me right, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: But that's the problem there, that's the problem. We put

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Speaker 3: a lot of money in this guy.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, but he gets you, get to work with

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Speaker 2: you a long time. You should know that, all right,

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Speaker 2: here's what we're going to do.

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Speaker 6: In the first segment, though, I do want to talk

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Speaker 6: about the NFC East. It's gotten pretty interesting here over

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Speaker 6: the last over this last weekend because everybody in the

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Speaker 6: division except for the Giants, who are sitting at the

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Speaker 6: bottom of the division lost.

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Speaker 2: Uh it would win for the Giants.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely is a good one went for the Giants, and

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Speaker 6: quite frankly, and this is what a little bit of

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Speaker 6: what I want to talk about right now. If you

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Speaker 6: look at how the teams are performing in the NFC East,

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Speaker 6: you gotta think the Giants aren't really out of this

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Speaker 6: thing that they are seeming to summons a little bit

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Speaker 6: of what I call that magic that the Cowboys had

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Speaker 6: in twenty sixteen. You get a brand new play caller,

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, my new quarterback, brand new running back, and

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Speaker 6: they have a little flare to them. They can play football,

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Speaker 6: So it creates a little bit of excitement and I

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Man? You know, that's the thing about these young guys

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Speaker 3: But you know, the more film comes out, the more

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Speaker 3: want to sound like a hater, but Jackson Dartist is

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Speaker 3: of people say, well Voch scatter Bowl looked like a

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Speaker 3: You know, the Eagles playing bad could do a lot

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Speaker 3: like I said, you know, you know you are good

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of thinking right now, I don't know how

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Speaker 4: I I I'm not surprised though, that Jackson Dart's having

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Speaker 4: some success. I'm really not. I felt I was a

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Speaker 4: against Dallas, say what you got. And then Russ came

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Speaker 4: So I I think that the I do agree with you, Derek.

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Speaker 4: I think they're finding their way. I'll tell you where

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Speaker 4: the Giants have got me a little nervous. Is that

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Speaker 4: that's the thing. If they find their quarterback. They got

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Speaker 4: it's it's like it's like a frat boy mentality that

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Speaker 4: I mean there's I think there's some some questions about them.

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Speaker 4: Well we're going to dive into tape this week about

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Speaker 4: the Commanders this division. Man, you you let one get away,

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Speaker 4: this pass weege, You just really let one because you

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Speaker 7: I mean those are like three already. Like you let

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Speaker 4: That's upsets right there. I mean that's you know, for

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Speaker 4: that's an upset right there. Give the Bears some credit

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Speaker 4: for the way they play, but this this division is

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Speaker 4: clearly wide open right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, go Giants.

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Speaker 8: I mean, anytime you beat the Eagles, happy, and I

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Speaker 8: feel more confident facing the Giants than facing the Eagles.

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Speaker 8: And we're gonna have to play them both, obviously, but

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Speaker 8: you gotta do a little more to impress me. I'm

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Speaker 8: not that easily impressed. It was impressive the fact that

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Speaker 8: keep doing it. Be more, you know, let's see if

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Speaker 8: they do get on a roll. I mean, and I

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Speaker 8: concerned about what we got going on internally, yeah, than

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Speaker 8: always exciting when I see the Eagles louse.

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Speaker 3: For sure, you were actually driving towards a really good point.

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Speaker 3: I thought you was gonna finish it. The part about

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurst is bad. It just is what. I just

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Speaker 3: don't think he's good consistently. He'll have a good game

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Speaker 3: to put up points offensively, that's the part that kind

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Speaker 4: But with the way that the way that Derek asked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that question, you asked Steven the other day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Stephen like he swatted it right out of

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Speaker 4: making the deal regardless? Because I was thinking I didn't

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to. I didn't want to give up

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Speaker 4: But the way the division is, you know, and your defense,

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Speaker 4: you probably need more than one player, but maybe you're

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Speaker 4: you guys feel any different about that?

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Speaker 8: Well, real quick before diving into that conversation, looking at Clowney,

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Speaker 8: can you give an assessment of what he has done

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Speaker 4: Fifty third player on my and I know, and I

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Speaker 4: Clowney has been playing, and I said, man, I just

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Speaker 4: can't go there right now. I just feel like that

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Speaker 4: maybe that's your fifty third guy and you're going to

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Speaker 4: have to have some roster spots here coming up. So

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Speaker 4: you know, proved me wrong, but I just, like I said,

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking linebackers, I really am. I'm thinking linebackers. Go

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Speaker 4: find me if someone if a Roquan Smith Chicago Bears

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Speaker 4: back in the day, not rokwand Smith now because he's

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Speaker 4: with the team, but back in the day you had

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to go get something like that, I would

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Speaker 4: sure damn consider right now. And earlier I was kind

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Speaker 4: of like, well, let's see, let's see what this team

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Speaker 6: I don't think my opinion has changed. We had this

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Speaker 6: And I'm just I am of the belief that if

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jerry Jones on the rail, it is more. And

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that on the microphones that he paid for.

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Speaker 3: I think Derek is onto something, and I'm I'm right

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Speaker 3: there with him. I think that they they made this

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Speaker 3: right now. I don't want to keep saying the same

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. If I'm dispecting anybody and they listen, I apologize.

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Speaker 3: I'm being I've watched the film and I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: you give me some safeties want to have to. I

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Speaker 3: But if you could just do something to just deal

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Speaker 2: Let me up just a second.

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Speaker 6: You think that some of the issues, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that that's That's an area where

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Speaker 2: I'll put it.

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Speaker 6: Like this, if you told me right now, I could

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Speaker 2: I want to range. I want a rangey safety that

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Speaker 3: I don't know where those guys are. I don't know

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Speaker 3: I just think that the easiest like safety, is the

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Speaker 2: If you want you're talking it's more of a scheme issue.

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Speaker 3: Sure, if you want to say it like that. Just

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Speaker 3: if I had limited resources, I would rather go linebacker,

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Speaker 8: Else well, And the reason why asked the question earlier

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Speaker 7: And he hasn't.

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Speaker 8: So my question was leaning towards even if you get

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Speaker 8: to now you're just wasting those capital capital from the draft.

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Speaker 3: So here's another question, and I might be teasing this

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Speaker 6: that's WBC Mortgage Studios at the start. I have a

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Speaker 6: good conversation here about the defense and watch. Before we

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Speaker 3: So Ambar to your point. Ambar was basically saying, just

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Speaker 3: But what makes you think because of all the you know,

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Speaker 3: of now, what makes you think that even if you

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Speaker 3: Would you get the same result that you get from Clowny?

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Speaker 3: And that just made me think I thought much higher,

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Speaker 3: Sam is in now, So like, is it something that's

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Speaker 3: going on? No, but is it something that's going on

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Speaker 3: in the house, Dey're excited? Is this something going on

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Speaker 3: about the house in the house, right, Derek? Is something

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm not gonna answer that question because I

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Speaker 3: Oh damn, what you want to say?

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Speaker 6: defense is communication. Right, So to ambers point, if you

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Speaker 6: go out and get a linebacker or a safety that

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Speaker 6: understands the defense and has the ability to make everybody

443
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Speaker 6: else around him have a better understanding of what they're

444
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Speaker 6: doing in each play, does that improve this defense more

445
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Speaker 6: than actually getting a player who is a great technician.

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Speaker 3: You can have Ray Lewis saying, hey, Marshaun, don't get

447
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Speaker 3: blocked by that damn tight end and it happened anyway.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but on the back end all those busts, if

449
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Speaker 6: you got somebody that really understands the defense, that's like Trayvon.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, you're over here, counter is coming right there, right,

451
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Speaker 3: maybe you can do.

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Speaker 6: My point is, I do wonder if if communication really

453
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Speaker 6: And by the way, I'm not one that totally believes

454
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Speaker 6: communication is the biggest issue. I know that other people

455
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Speaker 6: are saying it. My point is, if communication is the

456
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Speaker 6: biggest issue, do you solve a lot of that if

457
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Speaker 6: you go out and get someone who is a very

458
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Speaker 6: smart player, understands the defense and not only knows his role,

459
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Speaker 6: but knows everybody else's role. To make sure everybody's in

460
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Speaker 6: the right spot, to make sure everybody understands what they're

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Speaker 6: doing and has a way of communicating that to his teammates.

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Speaker 2: That becomes a coach on the field. Does that solve

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 8: Of the problem you're telling right We thought, well, you're

465
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Speaker 8: telling us that nobody on the team right now, how's

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Speaker 8: the ability to understand, communicate, translate?

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Speaker 6: If you're saying you have this, If you're saying that

468
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Speaker 6: the major problem with this defense that is operating at

469
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Speaker 6: the level that they're operating is communication, then yes, I

470
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Speaker 6: question whether there is anybody in positions And again there's

471
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Speaker 6: certain positions where you can influence that more than others.

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Speaker 2: A defensive tackle.

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Speaker 6: Is going to have a hard time communicating that to everybody.

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Speaker 6: A linebacker sees everything, should be able to communicate everything.

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Speaker 6: A safety should see everything, be able to communicate to everyone.

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Speaker 6: Quarterbacks on one side, he may not see everything to

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Speaker 6: be able to communicate to the other side.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: If you had a safety or a linebacker and your

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Speaker 6: biggest problem is communication, does a smart player who understands

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Speaker 6: the defense and understands in this type of scheme, what

482
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Speaker 6: everybody's doing. Does he solve a lot of those problems?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I have a hard time believing that out of that

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Speaker 8: whole group, no one has a mental capacity to.

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Speaker 7: Do that kind of role.

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Speaker 8: And my thing is, again, it helps when you have

488
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Speaker 8: a bettering guy with the experience that's able to, hey,

489
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Speaker 8: let me soak up what you're saying, and now let

490
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Speaker 8: me give it back to everybody else on the field.

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Speaker 8: But at the same time, I mean, who's to say

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Speaker 8: that the leader of the voice, the one giving those commands,

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Speaker 8: truly understands the defense.

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Speaker 6: And I think you're proving my point. My point is

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Speaker 6: I don't know thatdication. But what I'm saying is, then

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Speaker 6: if that's the case, if you don't believe that there's

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Speaker 6: anybody that that right now, there are players on this

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Speaker 6: team who understand the scheme, who can communicate it effectively,

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Speaker 6: and they're in positions where they can do that for

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Speaker 6: the team, then communication, but it would be their biggest.

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Speaker 8: Just for the argument, just for the argument, since this

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Speaker 8: is all hypothesis, you're my leader right in the workplace, in.

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Speaker 6: Some in some in some in some capacity, so you

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Speaker 6: decide not to But if you keep.

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Speaker 7: Telling me to do.

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Speaker 4: I work for a long time.

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Speaker 3: You just give up.

508
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Speaker 2: You just say, hey, do you lead us?

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Speaker 3: Wix right?

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Speaker 6: And I'm like the moment to Domuch by the way,

511
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Speaker 6: it goes like this, the moment you start messing up,

512
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Speaker 6: this moment, I'm gonna start saying something.

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Speaker 2: As long as you're not messing up.

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Speaker 3: Man, do you think your business.

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Speaker 8: Point if let's say what you're telling me, it's a

516
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Speaker 8: bunch of gibberish, and you yourself don't really understand or

517
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Speaker 8: you know, because sometimes it's hard when you don't fully

518
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Speaker 8: believe something and are fully committed into the game plan

519
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Speaker 8: or that you have created, it's hard for you to

520
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Speaker 8: translate that to somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Are you trying to say that?

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Speaker 7: You think I'm not trying to say nothing. You can

523
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Speaker 7: interpret that however you want.

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Speaker 3: Okay, talking to this man like this, No, do you

525
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Speaker 3: see what?

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Speaker 6: You see what she's going? You see what she's going like,

527
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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't know if I buy that. I

528
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Speaker 6: don't know that I buy it. I would say this

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Speaker 6: if it was a first and if you're and granted.

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Speaker 7: Hold on real quick, just to make a clarify something.

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Speaker 8: I'm not talking based on anything that I've I've seen

532
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Speaker 8: exactly in the or heard per se. But I'm just

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Speaker 8: giving another hypothesis.

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Speaker 6: If you're saying that you think that coaching doesn't fully

535
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Speaker 6: know how to present it to the players, then my

536
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Speaker 6: question would become, this is not a staff that doesn't

537
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Speaker 6: have experience. This is not a staff that hasn't at

538
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Speaker 6: some point been successful in the NFL being.

539
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Speaker 2: Able to coordinate a defense.

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Speaker 6: So if that's the case, why all of a sudden

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Speaker 6: now can they not effectively communicate the defense that they've

542
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Speaker 6: had success within the past and been able to communicate

543
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Speaker 6: like that would be my question.

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Speaker 7: Good point.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a guy that's really smart and the

546
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Speaker 3: last administration thought he was really smart and he picked

547
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Speaker 3: it up real fast in the one before that. Uh, Mayris,

548
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Speaker 3: I think he's really smart and that's been his game,

549
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Speaker 3: like Notre Dame knows his game. Yeah, with Quinn and Zimmer,

550
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Speaker 3: Zimmer talk to talk to Ban Hey man, this Mayor's dude.

551
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Speaker 3: But especially if you want to, you know, talk about

552
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Speaker 3: that Bran. But but for whatever reason, and maybe this

553
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Speaker 3: this goes back to if a different coach was in power,

554
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Speaker 3: or a different coordinators in power, maybe something different would happen, Hey, coach,

555
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Speaker 3: what you're seeing in fifty nine that you're not seeing

556
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Speaker 3: in thirty five? What are you seeing in fifty four

557
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Speaker 3: that you're not seeing in fifty three. I don't want

558
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Speaker 3: to hear nothing else about James Houston his run grades,

559
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Speaker 3: because everybody else run grades are ridiculous. James Hughes was

560
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Speaker 3: actually good, good first to run this game, this last

561
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Speaker 3: game he was on. He was on the field, like

562
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Speaker 3: what thirteen plays? Brian brother a lot nonsense? I need

563
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Speaker 3: to know. I would love to ask him, but I

564
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Speaker 3: ain't got his number, Brian, do what do you see

565
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Speaker 3: in some of these guys?

566
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Speaker 7: And replying back?

567
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Speaker 3: And sometimes mars At sometimes on the field responsible and

568
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Speaker 3: sometimes Maris will be on the field and he'll be

569
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Speaker 3: like out wide at like a safety looking spot or

570
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Speaker 3: like a wide Will guy or Sam guy. And I

571
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Speaker 3: would love for Marriage to be the green Doc guy.

572
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: But for some reason they're trusting Murray to be green Doc. Got.

573
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Speaker 3: They rotate linebackers all the time, but they don't rotate Marry.

574
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Speaker 3: They rotate all the other guy down. They leave Murray

575
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Speaker 3: just right out there. I would love it if Marius

576
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Speaker 3: was I would just love to see what it's like,

577
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Speaker 3: because I don't know what it's like, what marriage would

578
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Speaker 3: look like, orchestrating, calling out green dot, calling plays, relaying information.

579
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Speaker 3: I think I would assume that he would be better

580
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Speaker 3: than because Kendra Murray, no dispect is I might run

581
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Speaker 3: to you out here. Since you was in college, I've

582
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: never thought of you to be like this high processing guy.

583
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: You've always been a physical, downhill guy, but I never

584
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Speaker 3: thought of you to be to be a processor type,

585
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Speaker 3: like if you was a Sam linebacker type, I would

586
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Speaker 3: expect that from you. Maris was always I'm green dot

587
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Speaker 3: communicating with everybody guy. I would love it if Flues

588
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Speaker 3: gave that a shot.

589
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Speaker 6: Well, the interesting part will be and if all the

590
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Speaker 6: injuries they got and guys that they expect to have

591
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Speaker 6: back at some point, the one that's most interesting to

592
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Speaker 6: me and I would suspect for most people is the

593
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Speaker 6: Marveian overshown. So can he come into a defense like

594
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Speaker 6: this and kind of get guys a little bit more

595
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Speaker 6: on the same page and bring some excitement enthusiasm. Is

596
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Speaker 6: he that player now that opposing offense to say, you

597
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Speaker 6: better know what he is because he could do a

598
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Speaker 6: lot of different things and he can make plays, because

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Speaker 6: that's the problem right now. I don't think there's anybody

600
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Speaker 6: out there that's making plays. Maris made the punch out.

601
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Speaker 6: I don't think you have a consistent guy that weekend,

602
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Speaker 6: week out is consistently making plays for the defense.

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Speaker 2: And that, to me, I think is as big of

604
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Speaker 2: a problem as anything else.

605
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Speaker 3: If Demo comes back and it's him and Murray at

606
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Speaker 3: the fluce out of there, rat gamble, will Aparton, he's

607
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: gambling with money that he doesn't have, he's using them

608
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Speaker 3: that he doesn't but he's not he's not allocating resources properly.

609
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Speaker 3: If if if, if Demo comes back and Murray still

610
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Speaker 3: green dyke guy and demos like the will do, let

611
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Speaker 3: Demo and stop laying Let Demo and Leo file work together.

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Speaker 7: And I think that I want to know what Bran's thinking.

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Speaker 2: I see a lot of I work with him every day.

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Speaker 8: You know.

615
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Speaker 2: It's funny though.

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Speaker 6: The one thing, yeah, the one thing that's funny is

617
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Speaker 6: like country sayings are country sayings everywhere, Like I'm from

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Speaker 6: the country and you say stuffing, I'll be like, and

619
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Speaker 6: I don't like, I don't know if anybody else knows,

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Speaker 6: I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: It's a language. It is you ever heard of rat gamble?

622
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Speaker 3: Been rat gambled by something bad?

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Speaker 2: First?

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Speaker 3: For me, of course, it is.

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Speaker 2: You're learning so much on this show. I don't know

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Speaker 2: this stuff. Put your loading on this show, all right, Marko,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you.

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Speaker 4: Guys already answered question three. Give your bits guess why

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Speaker 4: this team struggles with communications. So we'll move on.

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Speaker 3: But I will I.

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Speaker 4: Will offer h I will offer this question to you.

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Speaker 4: Then in another form, would you guys consider playing Digs

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Speaker 4: at free safety when these cornerbacks come back?

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Speaker 6: I thought about this and then, I mean, you're talking

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Speaker 6: about a guy that's lost a little speed.

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Speaker 4: Well smart, kind of knowing what's going on. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, he's he's kind of a know what. He's

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Speaker 4: a guy that kind of understands. I know it doesn't

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Speaker 4: always look that way, but I think he understands what

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Speaker 4: you're trying to do. But would you consider playing him

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Speaker 4: as a free safety when all the other cornerbacks maybe

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Speaker 4: come back?

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Speaker 2: Here's what I love about that.

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Speaker 6: What I love about that is you want to say

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Speaker 6: just and the Cowboys have not had the Cowboys have not.

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Speaker 2: Had a safety in a while.

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Speaker 6: That I consider to be a ball hawk that literally seaball,

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Speaker 6: go get ball if you tell him, listen, you're not

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Speaker 6: worried about one person.

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Speaker 2: You're just kind of looking around.

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Speaker 6: You're reading the quarterback, and then when you get a

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Speaker 6: beat on him, go get the ball. I love Trayvon

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Speaker 6: Diggs in a role like that because he plays defensive

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Speaker 6: back like a receiver, and if you give him a

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Speaker 6: chance to just watch and scout where the quarterback's going,

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Speaker 6: think where he's gonna go, get there and try to

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Speaker 6: get the ball, you might turn this guy into a

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Speaker 6: real turnover machine doing that versus what you can do

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Speaker 6: just on one side with him, especially if Savone Revel ends

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Speaker 6: up being what you think he can be, and you've

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Speaker 6: got Bland and Revel and both of them are playing

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Speaker 6: pretty good there at the corner spots. Actually, I actually

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Speaker 6: love it. Now, the question is does Treyvon want to

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Speaker 6: do it? That's a whole different conversation. But I actually

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Speaker 6: love the idea.

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 3: The thing about Trey is I think he'll get bored

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Speaker 3: on the roof, like like fifteen yards away. I would

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Speaker 3: walk him down just a little bit and just let

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Speaker 3: him kind of roam around how do.

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Speaker 2: You feel about him about him having to tackle though?

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Speaker 2: Down there?

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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't put him five yards off there. That's

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Speaker 3: there is a meeting, and I guess it would take

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Speaker 3: some coordinator to be creative enough to pull that off.

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Speaker 3: But I love what you're saying. I love digs seeing

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Speaker 3: stuff and kind of playing on it. I just don't

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Speaker 3: want him so far back that he may only get

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Speaker 3: one or you know, one or two opportunities that I

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Speaker 3: want him just a little bit closer to where all

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Speaker 3: those crossing routes and if anything goes on either side

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Speaker 3: of the field, he can have an opportunity to go

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Speaker 3: play on it. Tackling is the issue. You are right,

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Speaker 3: But I don't hate the idea at all.

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Speaker 8: Brouh See, that's the kind of thinking outside the box,

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Speaker 8: the creativity I'm looking for.

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Speaker 7: That's what. Yeah, I love it. Yes, I love.

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Speaker 8: Because honestly, that had never even occurred to me, Like,

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Speaker 8: I never even thought of that as even an option.

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Speaker 3: You know, on Twitter, Twitter talk about this.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, I'm it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, my life became a lot better after Yeah, very

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Speaker 8: toxic environment in there.

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Speaker 7: But anyways, no, I love that.

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Speaker 8: Now is that a possibility that you actually absolutely not see.

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Speaker 7: Them doing that. That's the issue.

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Speaker 8: You know, we can get creative here and talk about it,

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Speaker 8: but that's the thing, like, I don't know if they

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Speaker 8: would actually even consider doing that.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to help yourself thinking about playing

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Speaker 4: some I think you have to think about keeping a

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Speaker 4: guy down. Now with the where the run defense is,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna have to play some single high stuff and

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Speaker 4: maybe this is where Diggs can help you. Diggs is

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Speaker 4: a gambler. Diggs kind of he's a guy that kind

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Speaker 4: of sees some things and if he feels like like

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Speaker 4: in the game, I've seen him like think about, Okay,

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Speaker 4: this guy, I know he's gonna run a slant here,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna jump this route, or I'm gonna play off

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Speaker 4: this coverage. I'm gonna let that my guy go and

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Speaker 4: go to the middle of the field. I think that

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Speaker 4: you kind of find the creative side of him that way.

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Speaker 3: Tackling.

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Speaker 4: There were a couple of times where he actually had

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Speaker 4: to tackle in the game and he and he was

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Speaker 4: able to come up. Does he want to do it

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Speaker 4: all the time? Absolutely not, But that's why you have guys.

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Speaker 4: I would consider playing Red Stewart down as like if

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Speaker 4: you wanted to play, if you really want to be

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Speaker 4: fun and with the cornerbacks, play him almost like a

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Speaker 4: strong safety, play him down in the box and let

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Speaker 4: him go and tackle people. That's where I mean. He's

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Speaker 4: he's a smaller guy, but he makes plays that way.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the guys that you absolutely don't have

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Speaker 4: to worry about. But the thing with Diggs, I think

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Speaker 4: it draws from his creativity a little bit. And and

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Speaker 4: but I don't think they'll do that. But it's just

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Speaker 4: an idea.

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Speaker 3: Brian, did your phone say anything about Carson.

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Speaker 4: Or not win not in a while? No, not not

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Speaker 4: not yet, nothing nothing on that.

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Speaker 6: I mean honestly that right now, based on what we've

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Speaker 6: seen from from Carson last season, what we saw in

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Speaker 6: training camp before he got hurt, how much does he

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Speaker 6: help you right now?

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Speaker 3: Where I was going with that, because if Trey's on

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Speaker 3: the roof and if Red he's at box safety, yeah,

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Speaker 3: now you need.

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Speaker 4: No No, that's what I'm saying. I think that's what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. Yeah, you got to think about I love Stewart.

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Speaker 4: I love Stuart's toughness.

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Speaker 3: I really do.

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Speaker 4: Now, you know, you could put you could put Wilson

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Speaker 4: down there. You could put Bell down there. You know

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Speaker 4: you can do those things. But I was just kind

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Speaker 4: of like saying Amber was saying, think abottle outside the box.

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Speaker 4: If you have a guy, if you're worried about the

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Speaker 4: run game, you better put somebody down there. And if

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Speaker 4: you're worried about the past, you better have somebody in

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Speaker 4: the back end that can play with some range. The

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Speaker 4: way people are throwing the ball on you, I'll ask

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Speaker 4: you this question. Give me an area of this team

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Speaker 4: that has a chance to improve, and then one area

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Speaker 4: is it? They are who they are?

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Speaker 3: Man? Uh so Ceedee Lamb's coming back, right, Yeah, But

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Speaker 3: when Ceedee Lamb was there, I don't think Dak and

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Speaker 3: Pickens all the way had their their thing figured out.

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Speaker 3: I think Dak and GP have a lot of time

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Speaker 3: on task these last these last a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 3: and I think that kind of got a groove with

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Speaker 3: him and he knows what route that he's really good at.

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Speaker 3: And we broke down some film this morning. Uh you know,

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Speaker 3: Pickens wasn't always yet guy, right man? We know Pickings's

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Speaker 3: gat guy now, you know. So I think now when

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Speaker 3: CD comes back, I can expect even more because now

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Speaker 3: Dak knows how you know GP operates, because in the

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Speaker 3: first few weeks GP was like deep ball guy. You

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Speaker 3: may get p I or like slant guy. Uh you know,

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Speaker 3: now GPS running running across his deep you know he's

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Speaker 3: he's running, you know, slanting things the outside route. So

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Speaker 3: I think I think your passing game could be even better.

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Speaker 4: Derek, we got just a few minutes right to ge

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Speaker 4: about five minutes. How about asking the different different question

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Speaker 4: on that Listiman wants to jump in on that area.

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Speaker 8: I was I was gonna say. I know, we keep

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Speaker 8: talking about the linebacker and needing help in there, but

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Speaker 8: there's a slight part of me that I'm still very

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Speaker 8: hopeful of the future with the linebacker position, Like looking

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Speaker 8: forward to Shamar James, I'm still a believer in Mary's

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Speaker 8: view file. I obviously they'll have overshown coming back, which

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Speaker 8: I believe the reports have been said, like around Thanksgiving

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Speaker 8: is for.

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Speaker 6: Well, Yeah, Jerry said this week on his radio show,

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Speaker 6: he said that he expects that they could open was

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Speaker 6: it Steven one of them said that they expect within

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Speaker 6: the next week or two they might open his window.

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Speaker 6: They might have him actually back on the field. Practicing.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's looking very positive. I think at this

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Speaker 6: point from everything.

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Speaker 8: Out of all the negative negative stuff happening there, that's

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Speaker 8: an area that I still think is it gonna take

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Speaker 8: you to that next level.

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying, hey, let's got.

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Speaker 8: Wild and crazy, but I do think it's gonna improve.

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Speaker 4: Derek, you can fix one thing right now on this defense,

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Speaker 4: so you can defend the run or defend the pass.

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Speaker 6: Defend the run. I'm just a big believer. When you

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Speaker 6: can't stop a team from running on you, it feels

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Speaker 6: like things are hopeless. And I know that even with

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Speaker 6: this kind of offense, with this kind of offense, you

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Speaker 6: would say maybe you should look at it the other

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Speaker 6: way and say, if you could defend the pass, then

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Speaker 6: you forced teams to have to methodically drive the field.

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Speaker 6: The problem is right now, they're giving up seven eight

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Speaker 6: yards on.

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Speaker 2: The ground per rush.

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Speaker 6: They're giving up they're giving up a long So there's

880
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 6: nothing that suggests at the at the rate that they're

881
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 6: giving giving up yards in the run game that it

882
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 6: necessarily is going to slow them down or force them

883
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 6: to be And these are not teams that are the

884
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 6: greatest teams in the NFL. These are teams that you

885
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 6: know are trying to find their way just like you are.

886
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 6: And and so yeah, if I had to stop anything,

887
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 6: I start with I always start with can you run

888
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 6: the ball?

889
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: Can you stop the run? So I start with I

890
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: stopping the run?

891
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: Thoughts on that one, Yeah, I would. I would much

892
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: rather deal with the run like this, this last this

893
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: last Panthers drive. Man, that that six minute drive. Seven minutes,

894
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: that's ridiculous, man. Uh, And what you do with that

895
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: is Dak doesn't get the ball back, so there's no

896
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: no hope for you to come back at least with

897
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: passing the football. And the Panthers did kind of get

898
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: busy in the air too, but you know, you almost

899
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: got some sacks there, you know, you you know, uh,

900
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: Bryce Young did kind of show who he was and

901
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: kind of missed some stuff and held the ball a

902
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: little bit. So I just think that there's more room

903
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 3: for error when the other team is passing the football.

904
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: But if you if you guarantee me seven yards of carry, man,

905
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. It's crazy.

906
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 4: The fact that Carolina never felt like they had to

907
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: throw that football, and even though Dallas scored twenty seven points.

908
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes you get somebody out of that. You're like,

909
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to chase points. You couldn't get any stops.

910
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 4: You could not get any stops to make them have

911
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 4: to start throwing the football. That's really unfortunate.

912
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 8: Well, no, And on the flip side, I let's say

913
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 8: you are more successful at defending the run. On the

914
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 8: flip side with the offense. I trust this offense with

915
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 8: the balance that they currently have with the running game

916
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 8: and the passing game, to take over the time of possession.

917
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 8: They would end up winning that battle there, which obviously

918
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 8: gives you a better advantage.

919
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 3: Am bar.

920
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 4: If you could have one back this week, Lamb or Booker.

921
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 7: Lamb or Booker Lamb?

922
00:40:45,880 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 8: Wait, hold on, I hate you, Brian. Okay, Ugh, how

923
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 8: long has Booker?

924
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks? About three weeks?

925
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: Three weeks he got hurt in the Chicago game?

926
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 7: Chicago, Okay, I.

927
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: Beass kind of flapped around a little bit.

928
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, coming to town like a bass.

929
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 7: But I think.

930
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 8: Now, with the kind of rhythm that Pikins has taken

931
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 8: and all of that, I'm more excited to see Lamb

932
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 8: coming back into the mix and them being that duo

933
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 8: that we've all been waiting because when they've been together,

934
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 8: we still haven't seen them both be mutually explosive. Obviously,

935
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 8: there's always one that's gonna be the more dominant one

936
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 8: based on how the game is played, but I think

937
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 8: I would be willing to say I'm more intrigued to

938
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 8: have City back.

939
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: You know, Lamb is your better guy, but I want

940
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: to get back to run the football or just my

941
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: my my run game being so untouchable, so tough line

942
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: that I can move three texts in one text a game.

943
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: I'm honestly ceed he's the better player, but I'm going booking.

944
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: I know CD will be back at some point.

945
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: I agree.

946
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 6: I agree with that, I think, but I will look

947
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 6: at this like I think last night, I saw DeAndre

948
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 6: Swift run pretty well against that that front in Washington,

949
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 6: and he's not a premium I don't think of him

950
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 6: as a I don't think that is a premium running game.

951
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 6: But they ran pretty well, which makes me think I

952
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 6: think Dallas, that was an aberration what we saw last week.

953
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 6: I think that this week, even if you didn't get

954
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 6: any of those offensive linemen back, I still think the

955
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 6: offensive line will be better this week and they'll be

956
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 6: able to re establish the running game.

957
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: So so that does give me a little.

958
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 6: Pause, like, Okay, just go and give me CD back,

959
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 6: because I do think the offense becomes more explosive with

960
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 6: him in it, And maybe that little bit of extra

961
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 6: explosion would have been the difference in this last game

962
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 6: when you get the ball back instead of going three

963
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 6: and out there toward the end of the game. Maybe

964
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 6: having CD is the difference you get you sustaining a drive,

965
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 6: you actually make the game winning touch down or field

966
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 6: goal whatever it was going to be.

967
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: It was going to take a touch touchdowns are no, no, no.

968
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: The field goal yeah yeah, yeah. But I think to me,

969
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 4: it's having having Lamb back, as we've all said it

970
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 4: would be great Booker. You need that, you need that

971
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: presence inside and Bass will let to have them.

972
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

973
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: To to his credit, they where they got hurt, the

974
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: law firm of Brown, Robertson and Brown h you alive

975
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: in that football game last week, and they they had

976
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: the penetration, the power they played with, and and and

977
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: you couldn't get your pullers going in that game. You

978
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: couldn't get your your movement game going, and you really

979
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 4: really struggled with that steel and Booker together had been

980
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: really good on that right side with span Ford. They

981
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 4: need to get that back going again real quick.

982
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: We didn't really talk about this.

983
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 6: Do you think that the three four front that they

984
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 6: were using, where they had those three guys kind of

985
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 6: preominantly down and then basically have five five man front,

986
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 6: do you think maybe that cost problems for Dallas? Just

987
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 6: from a standpoint, I don't think have they faced that much.

988
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 4: This year, not a team before, not that with the

989
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: double eagle where you cover the two guards and you

990
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: cover the center. What I thought they were going to

991
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 4: do is that's why teams have had some success running

992
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: a little bit on the edge, is because they've been

993
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: able to get down down and then get you know,

994
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 4: they've been able to angle block and keep everybody inside

995
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 4: and then run the ball off the edge. But what

996
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: happened is it, Carolina guys they beat They beat your

997
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 4: double teams, the blocks when you were passing guys off,

998
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: they were beating those blocks. And I could say the penetration.

999
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: Dallas's game, as we all know, is about the movement,

1000
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: you know, with their offensive line, and they able to

1001
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: pull the guards, the tackles, the full backs, the tight ends.

1002
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 4: You pull those guys. Carolina just they killed that with

1003
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: all the penetration they got, So yeah, I don't think

1004
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 4: it might had something to do it. The power of

1005
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 4: that front gave Dallas some problems last week.

1006
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 6: And to that point, I saw a number of times

1007
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 6: where their linebackers just basically shot down and they just

1008
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 6: shoot a gap and so even if they didn't make

1009
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 6: the tackle, they altered the play right and then it

1010
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 6: just create a situations where they're their their defensive line

1011
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 6: could then get after it and get a get a tackle.

1012
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 6: So that that certainly makes me wonder if other teams

1013
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 6: start trying to use some of those same sorts of

1014
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 6: principles against this running game, and that becomes kind of

1015
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 6: something they have to overcome.

1016
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: I don't think everybody has big dudes that will powerfully

1017
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: whoop Booker, Smith and whoever. We have a center one

1018
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: on one like that every time, Like when Carolina got

1019
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: tight like that, like they would force one on ones

1020
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 3: in there and Brown would just you know, run pass

1021
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: Hoffman or just run pass Bass or whatever. I think

1022
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: if you add Booker to that, then it kind of

1023
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: gets a little bit better for us.

1024
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: Booker's serving a lot stronger plays a lot more power

1025
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: book book woman.

1026
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, we appreciate you. Johnson'll be back tomorrow.

1027
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 6: We'll start getting you guys ready, uh for the next game.

1028
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 6: Cowboys will be playing.

1029
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: Who Got Next?

1030
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 3: Watching football with Andrews.

1031
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, Commanders, Cowboys play Commanders of Sunday three twenty five

1032
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 6: at atend Saty.

1033
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: It is at home. We don't have to travel. That's good.

1034
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 6: All right, We'll be back tomorrow till they for bout

1035
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 6: some body. Brian brought us in the Amber Garcia. I'm

1036
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,040
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1039
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