Speaker 1: Hello, My name is Jason Getepcio and I'm Rosey Night,
Speaker 1: and welcome back to Extra Visions week on covers of
Speaker 1: all things Deadpool and Wolverine. We're dropping episodes every single
Speaker 1: day leading up to the release of Deadpool and Wolverine,
Speaker 1: covering everything from both characters, comics, origins, the long history
Speaker 1: of mutant film adaptation.
Speaker 2: In today's episode. In the previously on, we're talking news
Speaker 2: things that you might see at comic Con, and we've
Speaker 2: got a lovely interview with none other than Pyro himself,
Speaker 2: Aaron Stanford, who will be reprising his role in the
Speaker 2: upcoming Deadpool and Wolverine movie, and what a lovely chat.
Speaker 3: It was her first news.
Speaker 1: First, The Twisters rocks the box office with a Category
Speaker 1: S five powerful eighty point.
Speaker 3: Five million dollar opening.
Speaker 1: I know it was gonna happen, directed to make around
Speaker 1: fifty in its opening weekend, but folks, uh, we.
Speaker 3: Love natural disasters.
Speaker 1: We want to see this, Glenn Powell, we love Daisy
Speaker 1: Anker Jones, we want to see The Twisters.
Speaker 3: Rosie your take, I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 2: I came out of seeing this movie and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: this movie's gonna make a lot of money. Like not
Speaker 2: just because obviously there's adults, there's people like us. We're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna see a movie. We're gonna go and see
Speaker 2: Glen Powell. You want to see Katie O'Brien wearing a
Speaker 2: cowboy hat, like, we want to see Sasha Lay and
Speaker 2: she's like a cool tornado nud Like. There's all those
Speaker 2: things that draw us to it, the fact that Lee
Speaker 2: Isaac chungk From who directed Manari, made it. But I
Speaker 2: also feel like, if you're like ten or eleven years
Speaker 2: old and you go and see this movie, you're probably
Speaker 2: gonna think it's the coolest movie of all time. So
Speaker 2: I really think that some of this this money is
Speaker 2: likely rewatches, not just by adults, but also by like
Speaker 2: cool kids who like love Weather.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying that cool. I'm saying that cool.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Updates Marvel announces panels, booth send more for Singing Oh.
Speaker 1: Comic Con which is coming up quite soon. There's a
Speaker 1: special Deadpool and Wolverine event has been announced.
Speaker 2: I believe that will be. My prediction is it's just
Speaker 2: gonna be a screening. I think they're gonna screen the
Speaker 2: movie on Thursday night, So if you've got a ticket
Speaker 2: for that through the nottery, congrats.
Speaker 3: On Friday, Editor chief C. B.
Speaker 1: Sebulski and special guests will leave will reveal the future
Speaker 1: direction of the Marvel Comics universe after the events of
Speaker 1: the Big Blood Hunt event and the big day for
Speaker 1: marvel In at San Diego Comic Con will be Saturday,
Speaker 1: where Kevin Figi will make his triumphant return to call
Speaker 1: h to reveal what's next for the mcu don don's.
Speaker 2: That just is so exciting to me as a fan
Speaker 2: of this stuff. I love to see their little graphic designers,
Speaker 2: my passion timeline.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be hilarious.
Speaker 2: Last time we saw them there it was four years
Speaker 2: ago and that was when we heard about Blade. Blade
Speaker 2: has still not come out, Dug Dad, So I hope
Speaker 2: that we get some Blade news. I would my predictions
Speaker 2: for this are. I would assume that we will see
Speaker 2: probably the whole cast of Fantastic Four there. Whoa that
Speaker 2: will be my like that the four that we know about.
Speaker 2: I believe they will get fought on stage. I think
Speaker 2: that would be quite a big deal. And I guess
Speaker 2: our next piece of news could hint at the other
Speaker 2: stuff that we're gonna see.
Speaker 1: What an incredible transition for mere professional Rosie. Speaking of which,
Speaker 1: Kevin Feigey recently at a press conference for Deadpool and
Speaker 1: Wolverine revealed that quote the after meaning after the Deadpool
Speaker 1: and Wolverine movie is clearly now that we have characters
Speaker 1: from the X Men world, the Mutants we haven't had
Speaker 1: access to before.
Speaker 3: Figi continued, so this.
Speaker 1: Is the beginning of that, and every movie post Deadpool
Speaker 1: of Wolverine will be the Mutant era coming into the
Speaker 1: EBCU band.
Speaker 2: I just want to say congrats to you and to me, Jason,
Speaker 2: because really we've been waiting for this for so long.
Speaker 3: We've made it.
Speaker 2: We've sat here, we've predicted, we've wondered, we've been in
Speaker 2: the comic shop and we've been like, when, well, the
Speaker 2: X Men come to the EMCU.
Speaker 3: We've been on this show and we've said the same thing.
Speaker 2: So I think this is great. I also think it
Speaker 2: is a huge It's kind of it seems like a
Speaker 2: throwaway comment, but I think that we can kind of
Speaker 2: say it's actually like a huge turn away from what
Speaker 2: we've heard before with the you know it, you know
Speaker 2: the kang of it all. I think we're kind of
Speaker 2: going to focus more on building to the X Men
Speaker 2: and building to whatever that means, whether that's X Men
Speaker 2: versus Avengers, whether that's some X Men kind of solo
Speaker 2: movies recreating that phase one, which I think would be
Speaker 2: a good idea, like a Storm movie or something like that.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm very interested to see where it goes,
Speaker 2: and I think we will at least get a hint
Speaker 2: of that at San Diego Comic Con this weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm very very excited. And once again, you're Rosie. You
Speaker 1: pointed out we were right.
Speaker 2: We were right, baby, right right, And it's finally happening.
Speaker 3: Coming up or chat with erin Stanford.
Speaker 1: He has played a drug addicted fisherman, he has played
Speaker 1: a traumatized time traveler, and of course he's played the
Speaker 1: fire loving mutant Pyro in the X Men series and
Speaker 1: he will reprise that role in Deadpool Versus Wolverine. It's
Speaker 1: our absolute pleasure to welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3: Aaron Stafford.
Speaker 1: Aaron, thank you for joining us today.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for being here.
Speaker 4: What an intro. Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are we are like deep X Men lovers
Speaker 2: on this podcast, and I believe you are our first mutant.
Speaker 3: You are our first ever X man ever had on
Speaker 3: the show. Ever.
Speaker 2: We've had a lot of creators who've worked on it,
Speaker 2: but I think you're you're our first mutant.
Speaker 4: I'm shocked to hear that There's been so many generations
Speaker 4: and iterations at this point, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, especially with like the New Cartoon Show and
Speaker 2: so many movies. But we're super happy to have you here.
Speaker 2: And something we always ask, like when we have a
Speaker 2: guest on is like we sometimes ask like, what's your
Speaker 2: comic book origin story? But for you, like what's your
Speaker 2: acting origin story? Like how did it begin?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's not too exciting, it's it's uh, it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's something that that I liked from a from a
Speaker 4: very young age. I grew up in a in small
Speaker 4: town Massachusetts, very very very far from Hollywood. So I
Speaker 4: did like, you know, little community theater here and there,
Speaker 4: school plays and stuff like that, and ended up going
Speaker 4: liked it enough that I went to college to pursue
Speaker 4: it and moved to New York afterwards, sort of with
Speaker 4: an idea in my head that that I would be
Speaker 4: struggling pretty much for the rest of my life and
Speaker 4: would probably be doing just like off off off Broadway
Speaker 4: theater forever and and uh and and have a day
Speaker 4: job and that and that was you know, that was
Speaker 4: sort of my my my goal. And and when I
Speaker 4: was in New York, I did that. I did I
Speaker 4: did theater, and I did a lot of small independent films.
Speaker 4: Is that was a really that was a time when
Speaker 4: independent film was really happening in New York City. There
Speaker 4: was there's a lot of stuff going on. It was
Speaker 4: a real indie indie boom. And I got I was
Speaker 4: very very fortunate to pretty early on in my career
Speaker 4: land an absolute dream role. It was this film called
Speaker 4: Tadpole and Weaver. Is this with Sigourney Weaver? Yes, And
Speaker 4: and it was I played this this young private school
Speaker 4: kid and Sigourney Weaver was my stepmother. And and I
Speaker 4: fall in love with with my stepmother? Is the is
Speaker 4: the the plot? And just as it was winning the lottery,
Speaker 4: it was it was. It was a lead role opposite
Speaker 4: Sigourney Weaver and John Ritter and bb Newworth. And I
Speaker 4: was completely untested and just was was lucky enough that
Speaker 4: the director, this Guyry Winnick, just decided he saw something
Speaker 4: in me in in the audition room and said that
Speaker 4: you know this, this is our guy, and and we're
Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna give him a shot. And and it's
Speaker 4: absolutely because he gave me that shot, that that that
Speaker 4: I went on to uh to have a career.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that career, because you're talking about twenty
Speaker 1: plus years now as a working actor, which is a
Speaker 1: tremendous career.
Speaker 3: You've worked Mike.
Speaker 1: Lee, and you've worked, You've done you've worked on television,
Speaker 1: you've worked on the stage. When young actors come to
Speaker 1: you and they're like, how do I how do I
Speaker 1: do it? How what do I need? What are the skills? Like?
Speaker 1: How do I work for that long? What do you
Speaker 1: tell them?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know there there isn't an answer to that question.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's what everybody wants to know. It's it's
Speaker 4: what I wanted to know when I you know, when
Speaker 4: I when I first started. And you're going to talk
Speaker 4: to one hundred different acts and they'll give you a
Speaker 4: hundred different stories of how of how it worked out
Speaker 4: for them, and the only there's there's basics that that
Speaker 4: that that you need and then the rest of it's
Speaker 4: just how it all unfolds. So the basics that you
Speaker 4: the basics that you absolutely need are a true passion
Speaker 4: and and a love for acting, for the craft, for
Speaker 4: the craft, and you you really really need to be devoted.
Speaker 4: I remember when I when I went to acting school,
Speaker 4: you know, they didn't sugarcoat it like the like the
Speaker 4: first day we were there, it was one of those
Speaker 4: look to your left, look to your right things, you know,
Speaker 4: and they basically said to us, they were like they said,
Speaker 4: flat out, anybody in this room who can do anything else,
Speaker 4: who can imagine doing anything, I mean, anything else with
Speaker 4: your life, go do that, you know. So because it's
Speaker 4: just it's just really it's really really difficult to to
Speaker 4: stay working and so you have so you have to
Speaker 4: absolutely love it because it's the only thing that's going
Speaker 4: to keep you going. And you need to devote yourself
Speaker 4: to it, and you need to have tenacity and keep
Speaker 4: at it and just endure the steady diet of rejection
Speaker 4: that is the life of an actor and all of
Speaker 4: the you know, the the failures and false wins that
Speaker 4: you think you you know, got the role, and then
Speaker 4: you get cut out of the movie and it's hugely
Speaker 4: disappointing or the role wasn't what you thought it was,
Speaker 4: and you know you're actually just background, you know, So
Speaker 4: all of that stuff you have to be have the
Speaker 4: fortitude to get through it. And then the and then
Speaker 4: the main thing. You know that that the third magic ingredient,
Speaker 4: which is which is why you'll hear every actor has
Speaker 4: a different story, is you have to be fortunate enough
Speaker 4: to get to somehow get that role like I did
Speaker 4: in aadpole And you have to you know, I've had
Speaker 4: there's an actor I'm friends with, Tom Pelfrey. You went
Speaker 4: to the same college as me, Rutgers University, and he
Speaker 4: said it very well. He said, you have to be
Speaker 4: you have to be very good in something that is
Speaker 4: very good, that is seen by everybody, and and and that,
Speaker 4: and that's what it takes to get on the map.
Speaker 4: You know, you you have to you have to be
Speaker 4: great in a role in some in in something that's
Speaker 4: very good, that is seen by a lot of people,
Speaker 4: and and that that is no easy trick, and and
Speaker 4: and people get to that all all sorts of different ways.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because one of the things I love about
Speaker 1: whenever I see you pop up and it's something like
Speaker 1: comedy bang bang, it's like.
Speaker 3: You know, whether it's whether you want to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a big impros so like John Johnny Appleseed.
Speaker 3: Joddy see.
Speaker 1: Whether whether it's like, uh, you know, one episode hit
Speaker 1: on mad Men or comedy Bang bang, or a show
Speaker 1: that's built around you. You always bring something where you're like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, that was great.
Speaker 3: How do you how do you balance that?
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna you know, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: guest spot one episode. How do you manage what you
Speaker 1: have to do, stay true to the character and try
Speaker 1: and make an impact in that in those kind of
Speaker 1: small hits.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's very kind. I really appreciate
Speaker 4: you say I.
Speaker 3: Watched too much television to do a big, big TV Me.
Speaker 4: Too, Me too. I'm a you know, I'm a fan first,
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, you don't want to go in
Speaker 4: there necessarily with the plan of how you're going to
Speaker 4: bend the job or the role around you and make
Speaker 4: it what you need it to be, and you know,
Speaker 4: go in with the mentality of like, you know, though
Speaker 4: this is my shot on mad Men, this is my
Speaker 4: one mad Men episode. I better make this sing. You
Speaker 4: know a lot of people are seeing this. This is
Speaker 4: my shot, me me. You know, you can't, you just
Speaker 4: can't think like that. And you know, as actors, you
Speaker 4: we really are servants to the story. You know, you're
Speaker 4: you're you're a servant to the material, and you just
Speaker 4: have to approach every part, large or small, from that perspective,
Speaker 4: and you just have to really familiarize yourself with whatever
Speaker 4: story is being told. You read that script over and
Speaker 4: over and over again. You research, you know, show like
Speaker 4: mad Men. You make sure you know who the characters are,
Speaker 4: and you've seen all the episodes. You understand the world
Speaker 4: that you're in, and then you understand, you know, what
Speaker 4: what your function is within the story. And then you know,
Speaker 4: you go in and you do all of the character
Speaker 4: work that you would do for for any for a
Speaker 4: large care you know, for for a big overarching character,
Speaker 4: you know, in an entire series, and you just you
Speaker 4: create a backstory for yourself and you make sure you
Speaker 4: understand when you're in the scene, where are you coming from? Immediately?
Speaker 4: You know where are you going to be right afterwards?
Speaker 4: How do you feel about all these people? What are
Speaker 4: your relationships to these people? And you just have to,
Speaker 4: you know, just do all of that in your head
Speaker 4: and and build that that infrastructure. And you know it's
Speaker 4: in my opinion, it's it's really the same for every job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've I mean you like you said, big
Speaker 2: breakout role is opposite you know, Sigourney we the bebby
Speaker 2: New Earth. You've worked with like Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart,
Speaker 2: like the cost.
Speaker 3: Of mad Man.
Speaker 2: What's it like to be a working actor and kind
Speaker 2: of over this twenty years just get to work alongside
Speaker 2: like icons who are already icons to you, probably before
Speaker 2: you even start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really surreal, As I said, since I since
Speaker 4: I'm a fan first especially you know, you get to
Speaker 4: work with somebody like you know, when I found myself
Speaker 4: in scenes opposite Ian McKellen, you knows, as a young
Speaker 4: aspiring actor, I had watched you know, he did this
Speaker 4: version of Richard the Third which is sort of reimagined
Speaker 4: to take place in this kind of like World War
Speaker 4: twish world period, and watching him and being in awe
Speaker 4: of his ability and then suddenly you're you're looking him
Speaker 4: in the eyes, you know, and in a scene with him,
Speaker 4: and it's surreal. It can be very intimidating at first.
Speaker 4: And what I found very quickly was that you had
Speaker 4: to sort of be in a state of denial about
Speaker 4: what you have to sort of suspend all of that stuff,
Speaker 4: all of that baggage, all of that excitement and all
Speaker 4: of that the worship. You know, you have to you
Speaker 4: have to sort of put that aside and just like
Speaker 4: compartmentalize and just lock that away and just I'm in
Speaker 4: a scene with my scene partner and and I've just
Speaker 4: got to dial in on that and everything and in
Speaker 4: this scene is too from and off of this other
Speaker 4: human being. And and then after you're done with the scene,
Speaker 4: that's when you can sort of let let it all
Speaker 4: flood in. And that is often when it when it
Speaker 4: hits you, and it's it's fantastic. I'm I couldn't feel
Speaker 4: more fortunate to have come into contact with with all
Speaker 4: the all the people that I have.
Speaker 2: In this business scene MH.
Speaker 1: You talked about the the work behind the scenes, building
Speaker 1: out a backstory excepter. I remember reading an interview with
Speaker 1: you about Twelve Monkeys where you talked about researching combat
Speaker 1: veterans and trauma to bring that performance to life. What
Speaker 1: did you do to kind of build out the backstory
Speaker 1: of Pyro, who is very different in movie form than
Speaker 1: from the comics, And then did that approach change at all.
Speaker 3: When you reprise the role now years later.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's it's it's certainly. It certainly shifted for for
Speaker 4: Deadpool because Deadpool is a very different sort of of
Speaker 4: of of comic book film. So most of that, most
Speaker 4: of that work building out the character of Pyro that
Speaker 4: you know, it all goes back to the original the
Speaker 4: first film that I did, which which was X two,
Speaker 4: and that, in my opinion, was was the most complete
Speaker 4: portrait that you ever see of Pyro. You know, there
Speaker 4: was there was real attention to detail. There were all
Speaker 4: these little moments built in. The screenwriters, Mike Doherty and
Speaker 4: Dan Harris. They were very very careful too, you know,
Speaker 4: to make all of their characters nuanced and complicated. And Piro,
Speaker 4: you see all these scenes where he's he's kind of
Speaker 4: this arrogant, brash young kid. He comes off like kind
Speaker 4: of a jerk, and then they built in these these
Speaker 4: little tiny vignettes and there's this really great moment where
Speaker 4: you know, Piro is staring at a picture of someone
Speaker 4: else's happy family on the mantle and you see something
Speaker 4: going on behind the eyes, and he's sort of clutching
Speaker 4: his his lighter, you know, like a security blanket. And
Speaker 4: you know, so for me, I what I read that scene,
Speaker 4: I said, Okay, you know this this kid's this kid
Speaker 4: has there's some pain there and and and what's his
Speaker 4: family history? This is obviously a happy family. He never
Speaker 4: you know, he never had. And so I, you know,
Speaker 4: for for Pyro and in that film specifically, you know,
Speaker 4: I built in this character who came from a very
Speaker 4: very dysfunctional, difficult, heartbreaking situation with with with his family,
Speaker 4: and it informs who he is and it's you know
Speaker 4: why he has all of these defense mechanisms. You know
Speaker 4: that that he throws up of trying to act tough
Speaker 4: and trying to act cool and trying to act like
Speaker 4: he doesn't care when actually, you know, the exact opposite
Speaker 4: is the case. And he's and he's really desperate for
Speaker 4: uh for love and uh and attention and he doesn't
Speaker 4: even he doesn't even find it. At Professor X's school.
Speaker 4: You know, he's Bobby and in rogue. You know, they're
Speaker 4: the ones who connect and he's sort of on on
Speaker 4: on the fringes of that and he never quite gets inside.
Speaker 4: He never finds somebody until Magneto meets him and immediately
Speaker 4: sort of becomes this surrogate father figure, you know, encouraging
Speaker 4: him and telling him he's special and uh and and
Speaker 4: to come along and find a new family. So that
Speaker 4: was all all that backwork was was done, you know,
Speaker 4: all the way back then in X two and obviously
Speaker 4: pulling what I could from the comics. But as you said,
Speaker 4: it was the character was was very, very different, And
Speaker 4: the reason for that is because I think they had
Speaker 4: a very specific thing they wanted to achieve with the
Speaker 4: Professor X the ex kids. You know, they wanted they
Speaker 4: wanted these young kids, and and they wanted I think
Speaker 4: really because it's a visual medium. What they wanted was
Speaker 4: fire and ice. They wanted you know, Iceman opposite Pyro,
Speaker 4: and they knew eventually those two would face off. So anyway,
Speaker 4: so you know, all that being said, all that was
Speaker 4: still in place when I came in for the for
Speaker 4: the for Deadpool. But the movie just is just a
Speaker 4: very very different tone. So, you know, Deadpool is you know,
Speaker 4: it's it's like a it's it's a body comedy, you know,
Speaker 4: it's a it's it's it's a send up of the
Speaker 4: superhero genre. So it's the Pyro in Deadpool. It's it's
Speaker 4: more of a caricature and and and less and less
Speaker 4: of a of a portrait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you kind of talked about the the life
Speaker 2: of a working actor. You don't know which role is
Speaker 2: going to break out, you don't know how long you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to grind. How did it feel to then
Speaker 2: get a call about a character you played, you know,
Speaker 2: a decade and a half ago, and say, hey, we
Speaker 2: want you to do that again, because that feels very unlikely.
Speaker 4: It is very unlikely. It's yeah, it's it's the last
Speaker 4: thing that I expected, you know, as you said that
Speaker 4: was it was like twenty twenty years ago, and they
Speaker 4: had long since moved on from the old cast. I
Speaker 4: think the last I think the last time they used
Speaker 4: most of the old cast was Days of Future Passed.
Speaker 4: I think that was it. And after that sort of
Speaker 4: sort of passed by, that was the last one that
Speaker 4: I thought like, oh, maybe maybe they'll call me back up,
Speaker 4: you know, but but but no, I didn't. So I
Speaker 4: was just like, Okay, well that, you know, that was
Speaker 4: a very fun and interesting chapter of my life that
Speaker 4: is now that is now finished. So Yeah, to get
Speaker 4: a call was to say the least. Uh, it was surprising.
Speaker 4: And you know, as I said before, you know, as
Speaker 4: an actor, you learn, you learn not to get too
Speaker 4: excited about anything because so many things just don't pan out,
Speaker 4: or they almost happen, or they don't happen the way
Speaker 4: that you want them to. So I was very measured
Speaker 4: and reserved. You know, when I first got there, my
Speaker 4: agent first started getting a lot of phone calls about
Speaker 4: checking my available and what was going on with me,
Speaker 4: and you know it was it was from MCU and
Speaker 4: we were like, well, what could this be. We don't know,
Speaker 4: and then they said, you know, Sean Levy wants to
Speaker 4: get on the phone with you, And then it became
Speaker 4: clear what it was about. And I just talked to
Speaker 4: him and he said, yeah, well, you know we want
Speaker 4: we want to bring him back. And uh, it's cool.
Speaker 4: There's there's something specific, there's something specific that we want
Speaker 4: to do with you, and you're gonna like it. And
Speaker 4: you know, I can't show it to you until you
Speaker 4: sign all the papers and until you say yes. But
Speaker 4: but it's it's it's legit and and it's real and
Speaker 4: and so you know, I trusted him and uh, and
Speaker 4: I was not disappointed.
Speaker 1: One more deep cut because I want to ask you
Speaker 1: about before we let you go, one of my favorite movies,
Speaker 1: Twenty fifth Hour, directed by Spike leaves small role in that,
Speaker 1: but I think for me it's uh uh, you know
Speaker 1: it's I think it's the maybe the most effective post
Speaker 1: nine to eleven movie. It doesn't deal directly with it,
Speaker 1: but you feel the event throughout the film.
Speaker 3: You've worked with so.
Speaker 1: Many legends, as Rosie has said, But what was it
Speaker 1: like working on that film? Written by David Benioff of
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones fame?
Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah, well I didn't meet David he was
Speaker 4: he wasn't on set that day, but it was a
Speaker 4: chance to work with with Spike Lee, which was which
Speaker 4: was you know, a great honor and very cool. And
Speaker 4: my role was opposite it was only one scene and
Speaker 4: it was opposite Barry Pepper Mark I love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is one of his favorite films.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So yeah, Mark Q's is your you know, is
Speaker 4: your garden variety Dick. You know, like you don't like
Speaker 4: your You're meant not to like him, and uh. As
Speaker 4: an actor, it's funny, you get so you get stuck
Speaker 4: with those roles sometimes and we don't get stuck with him.
Speaker 4: You're gifted these you're gifted the roles sometimes, but you're
Speaker 4: gifted the role of a heel and your job is
Speaker 4: to like have a punishable face, you know, in that role.
Speaker 4: And it's tough because as an actor, you know, you
Speaker 4: what you always hear is like it's your job to
Speaker 4: defend your character. You know, you have to justify your character.
Speaker 4: Nobody thinks that they're the bad guy, nobody thinks they're
Speaker 4: an asshole. So you have to put all the work
Speaker 4: in to figure out, like how is this very punishable dickhead,
Speaker 4: Like what is he? How does he see it? You know,
Speaker 4: how does he imagine this situation? How he's not the
Speaker 4: dick in this situation? You know, So you have to
Speaker 4: do that while ultimately also serving your purpose. So it's
Speaker 4: an interesting balancing act because there's always that side of
Speaker 4: you that's trying to make this character more human and
Speaker 4: more relatable and more empathetic, and then there's the other
Speaker 4: side of you that also has to perform that role
Speaker 4: of being the guy that everyone's like, yes, I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I'm really glad that he got punched so that so
Speaker 4: that was one of that was one of those roles,
Speaker 4: and it was you know, working with with Spike was great.
Speaker 4: You know, he's he's one of the he's one of
Speaker 4: these directors who you know, at that point, he'd been
Speaker 4: doing what you know, doing his thing for for quite
Speaker 4: some time and he just had supreme confidence and you know,
Speaker 4: everything happened. Everything worked like clockwork on that set, and
Speaker 4: everything happened very quickly, and he called out what he wanted,
Speaker 4: how it needed to be done. He would shout out
Speaker 4: an adjustment, you would do it, boom, we got it
Speaker 4: moving on. You know, really no nonsense guy. But it was, uh,
Speaker 4: that was very early on in my career, so it
Speaker 4: was it was a real thrill to work with him.
Speaker 1: Well, Deadpool and Wolverine comes out July twenty sixth. Aaron Stafford,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. It was a joy.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys, this pleasure.
Speaker 1: That's it for today's episode, folks, and thanks to Aaron
Speaker 1: Stanford for taking the time to join us.
Speaker 4: What a wonderful that was.
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