1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Sitgeist. 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Please welcome up, brilliant and talented Teresa Lee. Oh my god, 6 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: that was mortifying. Um you reading my website. But I 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: do have an a k A. So all right, Brian, 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: here we go. Okay, alright, it's to recently a k 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: A mid Philadelphia. Since Tuesday in the hotel, I potted 10 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: most of us day, filling out emails, no time for 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: the pool, keeping my mask on because those are the rules. 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: When a couple of texts told me there's a flash 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: food started by a tornado in the Tri State neighborhood, 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: this textas a portunal log, got mere feeling all scared. 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: I'm tired of feeling like my government is way beyond repair. Okay, wow, Okay. Also, 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: don't don't do that. Don't be so you know, humble 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: that you can't handle people bigging up your accomplishments. You 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean reading I didn't read that off 19 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: your website. I didn't read that off your website. That's 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: just where I just asked some people. I asked you 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: it was, and that's what I got from them. So 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: head out the window, he said, he on the knowledge. Alright, alright, 23 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Jack, Welcome, welcome. How is phil Philadelphia? 24 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Did you see any tornadoes while you were there? Did 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: you look at the we did, well, this is I'm 26 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: traveling with my dog and my boyfriend and I was 27 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 1: supposed to do the punchline on Wednesday night and and 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: and then like a random bar show, and like we 29 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: got these warnings on my phone that all of our 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: phones were like flash, flood, tornado, all this, and I 31 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: was like, hey, maybe we should head out soon, and 32 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: he just gave me the weirdest look, like, uh, did 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: you see the warnings? Like it's probably gonna be like 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't think people are going out at all. And 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is when you realize comedies 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: a disease, because at no point was I like, oh, 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: maybe I should cancel. It was like, oh, then stay 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: didn't cancel. I bet I get going. And he was like, 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: I thought the plan was everyone stay inside. We gotta 40 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: beat that tornado traffic. Dude, we did the show the Percheline, 41 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Joe did get canceled. I did end up going to 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: the bar show too because my friend, actually Blake who's 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: been on the show, Blake Wexler, very funny round that show. 44 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: We did walk through quite a bit of rain. It 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: was fine, everyone's safe, but I did realize, like, this 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: is not worth it. What are we doing, you know, 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: with our lives? But fortunately you did not get lost 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: in the tornado. Yeah. We like to ask our guest, 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Yeah, my last 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: search history was a uh, medicine wheel, told them. So 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: I turned out I sat on the Grandmother Moon Rock. So, 52 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: long story short, I spent the last four days at 53 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: this um therapy counseling, like youth camp type situation where 54 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: you like go and down the woods and it's just 55 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: this like full processing your inner child, all this ship 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: that you you know that black people never do that 57 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: you should do, right, So I went to go do it. 58 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: They had a medicine wheel, you know, this rock thing 59 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: they had like the labreath but in a in a 60 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: weird twist of dissonance. It it was in Nashville, but 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: on fucking Plantation. I was like, this is a plantation. 62 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how in the hell y'all want me 63 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: to be open and vulnerable at a motherfucking plantation. Say, 64 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: but I got over it, you know. And anyway, it 65 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: took a while, but I got over it. But so, 66 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: the last thing they had was this medicine wheel. I 67 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: was looking at what the grandmother Moon told them meant 68 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: and what does it mean? Do you know? Yeah, apparently 69 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: it's like the spirit that guides the cycles of life 70 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: and mostly as it's tied to the cycles of the 71 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: feminine energy, so feminine life cycles, menstruations. How that's tied 72 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: to the tides and the seasons, so it's supposed to 73 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: be the guidance for the female soul. Ended up sitting 74 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: on it, which is cool because I mean, I'm a girl. Dad, 75 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: it's the only women in my house, So I'm like, 76 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: and then and it was basically saying like, you should 77 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: open yourself up to the sacred feminine and the feminine 78 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: side and you and that like see how cycles can 79 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: process and cleansing of life, death, YadA, YadA. So saying 80 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: like you need to open up your feminine side. And 81 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the only side in my house. I 82 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: ain't got no option but to open up to the 83 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: feminine side, Like how come you're not wearing sandals? Basically 84 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: open of the feminine side, is Jesus said? And liquid 85 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: swords because it's feminine like sandals, he was Jess got 86 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: some questionable lines. I was like, I don't know what 87 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: the hell this means, but I think I'm bringing it 88 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: up like once a week, my favorite never it will 89 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: never shake it, and that's a minimum feminine like sandals. Yes, 90 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I remember immediately every once in a 91 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: while you just saying like, what's wrong with sandals? Man? Yeah, 92 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: you know that was that was wrong with sandals. I 93 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: was like, you have been to the beach, you know 94 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: where sandals tims only at the beach. Tim's all these 95 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: yeah wallabes or fucking you gotta wear Clark wallabes or 96 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: to the beach, to the beach just fully dressed in 97 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: a hoodie in the ocean, Like come on, that's not 98 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: even functional anyway. Yeah, I don't think wu Ware had 99 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: much beach beach attire. There's no just a gigantic hockey 100 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: jerseys which I had to of. So yeah, that's my 101 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: last thirte What is uh what's something you think is overrated. 102 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: I always have a hard time with this when I 103 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: come on this show, But this is the one week, 104 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: the one episode I've been on where I like really prepared, 105 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: and the thing I find the most over radio right 106 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: now is letter writing. There are all kinds of people 107 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: who are like, oh, you know, it'd be cool is 108 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: to write my my sister a letter, or my my 109 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: mom and dad letters. Like I'm gonna sit down with 110 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: a piece of paper in a band, I'm gonna write 111 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: a letter. Like why you're just gonna cramp your hand. 112 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: Your poor hand is gonna cramp up. You're wasting paper. 113 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: You have to then get a stamp, and then you 114 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: have to go to the post office or you get 115 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: to go to the whatever, like the mailbox in your 116 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 1: building or your house. But it's just too much work 117 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: for what. Someone is gonna crumple it up and throw 118 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: it the fucking trash. Who saves letters. Nobody saves letters 119 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: except for characters and Jane Austin novels like Get out 120 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: of Here with This Letter, people in like Love after 121 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: lock Up and I have all the letters he sent 122 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: me from the inside. Yeah, he saves letters or saved 123 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: letters suck at Charles Mansonez Brothers, Scott Peterson, Shall I continue? 124 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Who does? Who is it for? I mean because I 125 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: try and look at it practically. The reason I don't 126 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: write letters is because I have much quicker ways to 127 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: communicate with people. And I guess I don't see I'm 128 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: not too attached to like I guess the whimsical or 129 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: the you know, the value that makes letter writing sort 130 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: of attractive. But I don't know. Also, like I just 131 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: I write big block letters and I'll fill up a 132 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: page in like three sentences. Oh yeah, my handwriting is 133 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: fucking poor, but my mother has beautiful handwriting and shill 134 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: like say into her letters with like perfew just something. 135 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm like Bob, who gives a fuck just to be 136 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: an email type it? Text me, just don't call me 137 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 1: because they don't have time to talk. Don't verbally speak 138 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: to me, whatever you could do. Efficient conversation is more 139 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: important than good conversation. In my opinion, what's gonna be 140 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: our letter writing? Because I can see why your mother 141 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: would say she loves it, because my same Like I 142 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: look at my my parents, my grandmother, she had fucking 143 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: beautiful handwriting, like you know, a way that I was like, 144 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: I get it. This is like graffiti for you know, 145 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: people at home, like they're like, let me throw up 146 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: this beautiful letter. But I'm trying to think of what 147 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: our dated sort of mode of communication that will insist 148 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: on the people like we're off that we all we're 149 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: all meeting in the metaverse. Ho. I mean, I think 150 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: there's like a classiness vinier to letter writing that like 151 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: still persists with some young people like that. It's like 152 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: artisanal email, that's why. But I yeah, there is something 153 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: about getting a nice handwritten note, you know, after the fact, 154 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: as a gesture, I see the value and maybe it's 155 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: like as a gesture like oh wow, look at that. 156 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: That's handwriting. That's a little more hard. Go to Hallmark 157 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: and get me a card, Go Papyrus if those still exists, 158 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: give me a greeting card. Thanks, signed whoever. Miles Like, 159 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't need you to write a fucking tone about 160 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: how great my wedding was. Just get out of here. 161 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: Do you feel pressured to then return? It is that? Yes, 162 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: of course, you have essentially given me extra work. Yeah, 163 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: by doing the work yourself, you have forced me to 164 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: give you the labor that you have so graciously pistowed 165 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: upon me. No, thank you. If I don't do it, 166 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: then I'm the bad guy. And in a sense it's 167 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: able is m because I do not have the ability 168 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: to write. My handwriting fucking sucks. I'm like handed, it's 169 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: like all over place, ship out of it. So it's 170 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: like they're wagging in my face their ability to write beautifully, 171 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: and it's just they don't understand what what it would 172 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: be like if I tried to write them back. It 173 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: would be an ordeal for both of us. I think 174 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: our version of it, our generation's version of this sort 175 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: of artisanal horseshit is ao ll instant messenger. You know, yeah, 176 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: it's already dead, but we're like I'll remember when you 177 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: come home from school and you just like talk all 178 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: night with like your crush and you send, you know, 179 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: a little emojis that weren't actually emojis because you had 180 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: to use like a colon and parentheses to make a 181 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: smiley face. Remember that it sucks. It was not that great. 182 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: It was it was fine. It was a mode of communication. 183 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: That's it. I don't see anything like cool about it. 184 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: Oh are you playing the sound? I was like, what 185 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: then is that Oh my god, Wow, I am about 186 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: to pop out of my trousers. Is so exciting. I know, 187 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: you hit enough, smarter child and saying hey when what 188 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: what time? Is a Mortal Kombat playing at the AMC 189 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: North six? Yeah? Where are we? Where are we riding 190 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: to tonight? Boys? Or just like flirting with a girl 191 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: all night and having like a really intense conversation absolutely nothing. 192 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: Oh boy, I think he really likes me. Oh, I 193 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: wonder what it's gonna be. Like it's school tomorrow, which 194 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: is so which I guess makes sense why Like on 195 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: like app dating is so it has like kind of 196 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: similar energy, but most people don't have the same passion 197 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: for it like we did a I am because a 198 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: lot of people like it's just like I'm dating over text. 199 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, that is pretty much the only way I 200 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: was communicating with a certain point. Yeah, we weren't allowed 201 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: to have phones in our rooms, and we had cell phones, 202 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: but like they weren't we we didn't have um, you know, 203 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: iPhones at the time. So it was just like, well, 204 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: let's get on aim and we'll figure it out. Get 205 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: on name and just have very lewed conversations over text 206 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: in someone's family room. Yeah, the computer station killed Lord. Yeah, 207 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: the computer was just like riddled with viruses and all 208 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: kinds of horrible things were being said. Kind of like now, 209 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: I guess that's difference, just like a test run for 210 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: the internet pretty much. What is something you think is underrated? 211 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: Costco Kirkland signature, I think it's underrated. Which thing though, 212 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: which goes like late focus in well, focus on focus in? 213 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: Is buying booze at Costco? Like that's something that if 214 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: you're not doing at home, do it now, Like you're 215 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: you're wasting your money, You're wasting your life away if 216 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: you're not buying booze at Costco having a party, you 217 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: don't and get boos at Costco. Costco it's half the price, 218 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: and it's twice the size, and they have all of 219 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: their mixers, like their their gallon drinks. Those are also cheaper, 220 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: and you just like stock up, go and go every quarter. 221 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: You don't even need to wait for a party. Don't 222 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: be shame like go on your own, like on the 223 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: first of every month, stock up and like just make 224 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: it a part of your your ritual, your routine. Right, 225 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: do they have wine? While we're on the subject, do 226 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: they have. They have the giant wines. There's the regular 227 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: wine bottle, but then there's the magnum. They have Magnum. 228 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: I think a Jared Bones the biggest, and there's a 229 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Nevid Kadnezzar is like an even bigger bottle. This is 230 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: I had a religion teacher tell us this when we 231 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: were sixteen. Is that true? Yeah, it's like the biggest 232 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: wine bottle that And you're like what, Like you were 233 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: just talking about the passion, so it's hard to imagine 234 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: how it can get bigger than those big Like how 235 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: do you even carry that? It's like the side because 236 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: it's just like a stupid I guess I don't know. 237 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: I just tuned out because he would show like a 238 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: man for all seasons rather than like snitching, like and 239 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: that was like his whole curriculum and talking about gigantic 240 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: wine bottles. So anyways, shout out to you. I also 241 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: have kitchen shears on this list. M I think people 242 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: bust out a car cutting board and a knife for 243 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: any old thing you can just cut it, just stand 244 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: above the pan, snip snip snip, sausages, carrots, and then 245 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: I also have the TV show Veronica Mars it's called classic. 246 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's Kristen Bell's best work. Yeah, 247 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: I bought a yellow nissanics Erica. Is that show? Did 248 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: you really know? But I thought that was a cool 249 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: car then and I and every time I said, I'm 250 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: like right, stand by it. You could you could be like, hey, 251 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: who's that? Who's that? That completely missed me? Is that 252 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: a it's like detective? Yeah, it's like a it's like 253 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: a grimier Nancy dre in what looks like Van Knives California. 254 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: No like magical element to it, no magic element. But 255 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: it was only three seasons. It got canceled, and then 256 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: the fan base was so committed that ten years later 257 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: they completely crowdfunded a movie and then Hulu picked it 258 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: up for the last season. Nice. Yeah, all right, Well 259 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we will be right back. 260 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: And we're back, Um and Miles, you brought this article 261 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: and vice to my attention about people who are developing Yeah, 262 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: it's sociogenic, also called functional disorders. I've called them psychogenic before, 263 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: because you know, that's what they're referred to in some 264 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: places because the cause tends to be located in the brain. 265 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: But it's it's basically people who are developing ticks based 266 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: on who they follow on TikTok who and like people 267 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: they follow on TikTok having ticks and like that. The 268 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: article also talks about people who can read an article 269 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: about someone with MS and then start developing the symptoms 270 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: of MS, so like similar kind of cognitive basis for 271 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: physical illnesses. And this hit at the same time that 272 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: like this is starting to become taken more seriously in 273 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: the Havana syndrome conversation. So yeah, and the whole thing 274 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: with this, like they said, like Jen's there's a lot 275 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: of young people between like twelve and twenty five that 276 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: have developed like physical ticks, and a lot of these 277 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: kids we were possibly convinced that they had Tourette's or 278 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: something like that, but when they would go to doctors 279 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: who specialize in like this technically isn't turetts. It is 280 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: a physical tick, but this wouldn't essentially be Turette's because 281 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: that would develop at a much earlier age for someone. 282 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: And these these specialists who like, as they say, their 283 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: their whole thing is about Turette's. They've said that they've 284 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: seen referrals for these kind of like rapid onset of 285 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: like physical ticks. It used to just be around one 286 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: to five percent of their total cases before the pandemic. 287 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: It's now twenty to thirty percent of their cases now. 288 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: And they they the researchers they quote describe a quote 289 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: parallel pandemic of young people aged twelve to twenty five, 290 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: almost exclusively girls and women, presenting with the rapid onset 291 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: of complex motor and vocal tick like behaviors. They have 292 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: been striking commonalities in the phenomenology of these tick like 293 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: behaviors observed across our centers in Canada, the United States, 294 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: the UK, Germany, and Australia. Curiously, the researchers state that 295 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: for the patients they studied, in addition to experiencing pandemic 296 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: related stressors, all endorsed exposure to influencers on social media, 297 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: mainly TikTok with ticks or Turette syndrome. So it's like 298 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: this weird thing where they're you know, a lot of 299 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: people who developed these ticks are saying, you know, people 300 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: don't believe them, or people will try to like that's 301 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: not Turette's like you're faking this ship and it's like 302 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: causing a lot of distress and things like that. But 303 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: these experts are really finding this thing of like this 304 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: the isolation and just general stress for certain people has 305 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: created this environment in which they're now sort of like 306 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: like the content that they've been exposed to on TikTok 307 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: is feeding into that. Now. I didn't know there was 308 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: a like TikTok. But the interesting thing about that is 309 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: it I feel like there is some sort of subconscious 310 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: survival mechanism there, even though it doesn't make sense to 311 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: us because it sounds like ticks would be quote unquote 312 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: negative in our sense. But if you're watching what you 313 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: consider like an influencer or socially you know, a higher 314 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: up than you or someone you admire, and your teenage 315 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: girl like one of the most important things at that 316 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: time for survival is to feel accepted. So I could 317 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: totally draw the line. I mean, I'm not assignedist, this 318 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: would be wrong, but my first thought is subconsciously, your 319 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: body wants to like adapt and fit in, So it 320 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: would pick that up because I remember when we were 321 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: in high school, people were saying speaking like Valley girls. 322 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: There was a girl who faked her voice all through 323 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: high school, just like she it wasn't her real voice, 324 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: but she would just fake it and she would never 325 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: go up break character. But when she was younger, it 326 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: wasn't like that. It was just to sound like a 327 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: little more like a girly girl like that, the whole thing. 328 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: And it's it's wild because it's you know, they've tried 329 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: to figure out from every level, like is it really this, 330 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: but they keep going back to the thing that they said. 331 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: In some cases, the patients specifically identified in association between 332 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: these media exposures and the onset of their symptoms. So 333 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: it's just this this conversation, this I don't know, this 334 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: back and forth between the psychological, emotional, and physical that 335 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: are all kind of manifesting into this other. You know, 336 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: they say like in like a mini pandemic within the pandemic. Yeah, 337 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: I guess I'm curious if it's dangerous. I mean, I 338 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: understand anything unknown is scary and we want especially if 339 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: it's spreading that fast. But and that definitely something about 340 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: this is unsettling. But I'm curious why they've named it 341 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: an epidemic, Like is do my understanding that there are 342 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: a lot of ticks that are harmless, right, and some 343 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 1: people report ones that are way more violent and like 344 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: they will hit themselves or they're you know, and it 345 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: and it could be something from just some people were 346 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: just saying beans. A lot other people would just like 347 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, have other things like like scrunching their nose 348 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: or other sort of physical ticks. But it ran the 349 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: entire spectrum of these sort of involuntary movements. So this 350 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: uh Havana syndrome article that kind of approaches that from 351 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: this perspective speaks with a lot of people who are 352 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: experts on what they call functional disorders, and there they 353 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: say that it's like not like to approach it as 354 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: like okay, so this is expressing like some subconscious need 355 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: or is kind of counterproductive because it's really like more 356 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: about approaching it from the neurological perspective. And they like 357 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: tell the story of this guy who just like suddenly 358 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: started having really bad lower back pain and fever and chills, 359 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: and then like went to the hospital and like they 360 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: couldn't figure out what was wrong with him, and he 361 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: like couldn't for a year and a half, like nobody 362 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: knew what was wrong with him. It was like he 363 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: couldn't walk anymore. And then this expert was just like, no, 364 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: it's not like it's not a thing. It The doctors 365 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: eventually were like, it's psychogenic. It's starting your brain, and 366 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: he was like, fuck you, because that's like there's a 367 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: a stigma to it, and it sounds like, oh, you're 368 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: making it up, and that's not what's happening. What's happening. 369 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: It is something that is happening to you. You're you 370 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: have control over it. The brain is this massive, massive, 371 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: like more massive than we can possibly comprehend machine with 372 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: like so so much happening and we only have like 373 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: a access to like a small little pinhole of consciousness, 374 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: and so you're not choosing anything. This is something that's 375 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: happening to you, and that that seems like basically the 376 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: scientific consensus at this point, even though like the way 377 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: that The New Yorker and some other New York Times 378 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: articles have covered it has been like, well, these doctors 379 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: think it's this brain injury caused by microwaves, Like anybody 380 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: who's an expert like says like it's impossible. What you're 381 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: talking about is physically impossible. The sound waves thing. People 382 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: are still calling it ultrasound. They point out that like 383 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: when we use ultrasound on like a pregnant woman's belly, 384 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: like that gel is there, because if there's a single 385 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: little pocket of air in between like the ultrasound and 386 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: the thing it's trying to reach, it'll completely destroy it. 387 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: Like you can't ultrasound can't travel through air. Sound can't 388 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: travel through air in an effective way. Microwaves same deal, 389 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: Like you would basically feel like you are being cooked 390 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: in a microwave oven, not like you are have are 391 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: having a very specific targeted thing in your brain. The 392 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: other thing they point to is that with these functional disorders, 393 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: like the symptoms usually last longer than a physical injury, 394 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: because what what's happening is it's like getting locked into 395 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: because of like stress and fear and like social conditions. 396 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: It's getting locked into like neurological pathways, and then you 397 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: can't get out of them because it's not actually a 398 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: physical thing that you're recovering. So, like they with regards 399 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: to Havannah, they said, one of the reasons that they 400 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: can tell that it's a functional disorder is that the people, 401 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: like if all these people had just been like hit 402 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 1: on the head with something very heavy, like that's not 403 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: what happened. But like they were saying, they like had 404 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: brain trauma. If everybody had had suffered brain trauma at 405 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: the time that they felt like they had been attacked, 406 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: they would have healed within weeks. But instead they're still 407 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: experiencing the symptoms like years later. And so they're like, 408 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: that is a text a textbook sign that this is 409 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: a functional disorder. It's just wild that they because even 410 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: as you're saying that, like there's phrases like oh, it's 411 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: in your head, right, which we come to know as 412 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: like you're making it up. But then when you said 413 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: it in a scientific way, like it's something happening in 414 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: the brain, we're like, yeah, that's a physical part of 415 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: your body. Is actually a pretty important part of your 416 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: body something It also does other things, right, like regulate 417 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: your blood flow or whatever, Like it does other things 418 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: that were not like I can't believe you lifted your arm. 419 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: It's all in your head. It's like, no, my my 420 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: brain told me to lift my arms. So that I 421 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: can answer this question, why is that different from like 422 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: it's hurting my back, except in this case, I don't 423 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: know why, like just because it came from my brain 424 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm all asshole, who's doing this to waste 425 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: your time? Doctor? You know read builds are expensive. So 426 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: I find that, like it's such a strange cognitive dissonance 427 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: of our health care system. I think people get so 428 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: scared to be like seen as like hokey or like 429 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: veering into like any alternative medicine, that we forget that 430 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: there are a lot of old, like old ways, ancient medicine, 431 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: ancient learnings that aren't perfect, but neither are Western medicines, 432 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: and like if we just take that line away and 433 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: just look at more truth, we can bridge the gap 434 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: and figure out more things. Yeah, or in this case, 435 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: just being able to not revert to like this very 436 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: rigid way of diagnosing things like where you know, like 437 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: really and to your point of being open and things 438 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: like yeah, this, if they're saying it, it's we should 439 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: also know that it's very quite possible that they're experiencing 440 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: something that is not known to me because I might 441 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: not have an area of expertise in this place. But 442 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: take this person's word for it rather than saying like 443 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: a yeah, whatever, you're just you're fucking tripping. There's a 444 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: lot more research now about like what like the MDR 445 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: and all that stuff about how you can actually re 446 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: reprocess those patterns that don't get stored correctly. And it's 447 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: a little different than this, but it sounds similar. When 448 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: you said there's like a path kind of that gets 449 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: glitchy and you repeat a glitch over and over, it's 450 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: very similar to add addiction therapy is like very similar. 451 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: But so this guy Jason Lindsley, who now is like 452 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: openly like I suffered from this thing called a functional 453 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: movement disorder for a year and a half. The way 454 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: that he treated it was he met with this guy 455 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: who's an expert or actually it's a woman in Louisville, Kentucky, 456 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: was an expert who basically just did these like got 457 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: him to be on board with it. It's like, no, 458 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a mental thing. It's a neurological 459 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: like brain thing that like you have no control over. 460 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: They like put him through these therapies that were just 461 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: about like motor retraining designed to overcome his resistance to 462 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: normal movements. Physical therapists began by asking him to take 463 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: miniscule movements of his feet, and he spent part of 464 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: each day undergoing cognitive behavioral therapy, and like a week 465 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: later he walked out of the clinic like nothing had 466 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: ever been wrong with him, and so it's yeah, and 467 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, that's what what it was. It was 468 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: a functional disorder. That doesn't mean like I had something 469 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: wrong with me, It's just that's the thing that happens. 470 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that we're seeing more and 471 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: more of these functional disorders at a time when we're 472 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: having more and more you know, Theresa, like you were saying, 473 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: like kind of having to sublimate and like deal with 474 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: stress and like use cognitive dissonance just to get through 475 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: our day to day lives, like just having to deal 476 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: with the fact that we live on a planet that 477 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: is like dying and nobody's doing anything about it. And 478 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, it just seems like there's more internal stress 479 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: that we're not able to address or even express in 480 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: our day to day lives than ever before. So it 481 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: kind of makes sense to me that we would be 482 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: having these things like kind of coming out of our 483 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: own conscious and attacking our our body more than we 484 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: have in the past. Well, and the age is interesting too, 485 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: because like I think I'm just beyond that age where 486 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: even though I can be Internet savvy, most of my 487 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: development years were spent in the real world, Like you know, 488 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: the screens and apps weren't as big, whereas with the 489 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: pandemic plus the Internet age gen z, I think virtually 490 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: in their brain don't distinguish an interaction online versus in 491 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: real life like they can tell you it is. It's 492 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: not like they're like I can tell but in terms 493 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: of like if someone confesses their love, if someone bullies them, 494 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: I think that in their brain it has a semifa 495 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: maybe yeah, Whereas for me it might be different because 496 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: I remember, you know, wanting to go to the school 497 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: dances and getting and flirting in person. I've had my 498 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: share of flirting online, but it's a little bit different 499 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: because I was older, you know what I mean, Like 500 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: I didn't have It's not like that that like first 501 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: introduction to those sensations. So I feel like that must 502 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: be a part of it too, because they're online and 503 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: they're developing by watching, whereas we can just grow past thinking, oh, 504 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: it's just like a character on a screen. Sure, I 505 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: mean it's just yeah, but there I mean we I mean, 506 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: I was definitely like I modeled shipped off of TV 507 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: when I was younger, so there may be carry face. 508 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: I was going around everywhere going like some somebody stop me. 509 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: I know the tattoo, but yeah, I feel like, yo, 510 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: get that lasered off. Or a book also enters everyw 511 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: like Cramer kicks on the door and sledge when I 512 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: say what's up, Jerry, and they're like, what's up, Jerry? 513 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: Nothing anyway? Uh no, but this it Yeah, these differences 514 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: are I think we're starting to see right like we're 515 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: in an age where there are people who have been 516 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: interacting with screens and apps that are designed to manipulate 517 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: your brain, and then you're adding these isolate like the 518 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: isolation of a pandemic, plus like the lack of social 519 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: contact and additional stress and things like that. It's I 520 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: can only imagine like that this is probably some we're 521 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: seeing an experiment basically play out on some level of 522 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: trying to understand like how all of these things may 523 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: interact at a certain age. But yeah, it's it's but 524 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean it's so the Havana syndrome thing is happening 525 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: to like grown adult bureaucrats, like kind of the opposite 526 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum from young teenage people who are 527 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: on TikTok. But it's still I I I always want 528 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: to like kind of resist the urge to blame technology, 529 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: even though I know there's like a lot of new 530 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: ship happening, Like I do think that just across the board, 531 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: everybody's under more stress than they've ever ever been under, 532 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: and it's like stress that nobody is acknowledging kind of money. 533 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: You guys got to shake it out. Okay, look, I 534 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: know it sounds still in your head. I used to 535 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: just like when I get sad, I would just start 536 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: like shaking my butt, and I thought that was funny. 537 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: But over the pandemic, I started realizing that this isn't 538 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: just a weird thing I do. I think it's like 539 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: a smart thing I do. I think it's like those 540 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: stress needs to come out some way. So shake your 541 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: butt at home, guys, do it save shake your butt 542 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: to yourself. Okay, don't flash in a body that is 543 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna be flashing when you shake your butt. Are you 544 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: like half are you trying? Like what do you mean? 545 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Just like one like this, I wish my computer wasn't 546 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: so because I know I could hear you were shaking, 547 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: but I could not see it. I could just see frozen. 548 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: It's like since I was a kid, I know it 549 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous. As an adult woman, I'm like, I'm shaking 550 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: my butt, but like babies literally will like shake their 551 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: butt like that, you know, And then I'm growing up 552 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: to actually dance and torque and whatever. So yeah, I'll 553 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: put on music I like and like actually start to 554 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: move around and feel myself, you know, like this is 555 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: a fun move whatever. But I'll do that for something 556 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: like ten minutes while I'm cooking and just, uh, it 557 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: seems silly, but during pandemic, when I was like the 558 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: most isolated, it was almost like a daily thing. It 559 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: just I'll just get the art to do it. And 560 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: I think it was literally my body being like time 561 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: to get all the news of today out through your butts, 562 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: like you but yeah, there's there's your cult though. You 563 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: get people shaking their butts and like, you know, but 564 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: you give them that information, right they process information, but 565 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: then process that do but wiggling. But okay, I could 566 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: go for that. That we're closer to a cold I 567 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: might actually take on. So yeah, you know, I can 568 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: break my brek going to build this thing when you 569 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: feel sad, but I was just picturing someone like crying 570 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: while like just sadly shaking that. Uh, all right, let's 571 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: move on to where we're at with unemployment in the US. 572 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: I know, like in the in the mainstream media, there's 573 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: a lot of headlines about US misses its jobs number 574 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: for fucking whatever August. I don't know, I don't know 575 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: whatever month we just lived through, and so that that's 576 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: going to filter down to us in some sort of 577 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: probably in humane policy. But well, you know, we've also 578 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: in the past talked about how other countries are experimenting 579 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: with a four day work week and having great results. Yeah, 580 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: it's just it's just wild to see, Like when I'm 581 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: scrolling news headlines, one thing will be like, you know, 582 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: Scotland all so now participating in pilot program for four 583 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: day work week, and then the next one is like 584 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: seven point five million people will lose some or all 585 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: of their unemployment benefits. And the just difference in just 586 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: the basics on how we look at employment and working 587 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: and the culture around work and what it means for 588 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: like the actual human beings. Because yeah, like we've talked 589 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: about this a lot. How much like we love, we 590 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: love a four day work week around here, like as 591 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: an idea, I mean, it makes sense. Whatever is more 592 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: efficient is what should be happening because that allows people 593 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: to live more of their lives with their families or 594 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: their passions or whatever it may be. And you know, 595 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: the last thing we saw was like this huge study 596 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: that was like years long. They said, hey, man, we're 597 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: having a real hard time finding an excuse why a 598 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: thirty two hour work week wouldn't be good for people. 599 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: And most recently, I think in twenty nineteen in Japan. 600 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: Microsoft Japan again, but Japan is fucking you want to 601 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: talk about work culture where like, you know, Japan, only 602 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: a few places people like in a modern country or 603 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: developed country where people die from overworking like an office 604 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: job and like that kind of exhaustion. So for Japan 605 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: to kind of even engage with like maybe there's a 606 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: better way to do this, I was like, Okay, well 607 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: what's going on? So Microsoft they gave twenty three they're 608 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: like all their employees, twenty three hundred of them in 609 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: Japan specifically, they said you can choose like your own, 610 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, flexible work style that's gonna kind of come 611 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: out to a four day work week, and let's just 612 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: see if there would be something good that comes out 613 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: of it. They fucking had a forty percent increase in 614 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: productivity and then like exponential growth in people's like feelings 615 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: of positivity and like just feeling better about their quality 616 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: of life just because they had the flexibility to figure 617 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: out how they could work in a in a more 618 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: efficient way. They even said, look, we're not even gonna 619 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: have fucking meetings that are more than thirty minutes, Like, 620 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: let's really figure out how to make things as efficient 621 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: as possible. In the US, we've had a congress person 622 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: introduce a bill that he's saying, like, yeah, in America, 623 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: we should look at a thirty two hour work week. 624 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: We really need to do it because all of the 625 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: data we have supports this move. And again, as he says, 626 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: shorter work week would benefit both employers and employees alike. 627 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: Pilot programs run by governments and businesses across the globe 628 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: of showing promising results. Productivity climbed report, people reported better 629 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: work life balance, less need to take sick days, heightened morale, 630 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: and lower childcare expenses because people have more times with 631 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: their families and children. It's just all fucking there, but 632 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: we won't do it. And meanwhile, you know, you juxtapose 633 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: that with what we're looking at in the u S, 634 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: which is cut the benefits to force someone into a 635 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: situation where they have to take a job that they 636 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: don't want, because that's where we're at, that's the that's 637 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: currently the like the philosophy, or at least a lot 638 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: of the economic analysts are like, well, we have eight 639 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: and a half million people unemployed and we have ten 640 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: million job openings, so I think that's gonna fit. You know, Yeah, 641 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna fit like a fucking glove. And we're continue 642 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: to see that that's not the case, and we still 643 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: get these same dumb, fucking fake cass talking points or 644 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: the unemployment benefits are making people lazy and ship like that. 645 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: And there was a new new research came out. For 646 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: every eight workers who lost benefits, only one found a job. 647 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: So even people who lost job like lost jobs, they 648 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: were having trouble finding the work that was actually relevant 649 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 1: to them. They said, the leading reasons why unemployed aren't 650 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: taking jobs have little to do with government money and 651 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: everything to do with health and economic crisis, child care scarcity, 652 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: and cost fear. Of getting or spreading COVID nineteen and 653 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: taking care of someone with the disease or getting sick 654 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: themselves according to the survey, And we're kind of like 655 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: stuck in this loop of like just only measuring our 656 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: success based on shareholder value. It's so toxic the way 657 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: that the mainstream media covers the ship because it like 658 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: these are people making the best decisions for their health, 659 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: for their ability to survive. It's the same ship with 660 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: the the unhoused population has gone down, but they're more 661 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: conspicuous now because they're not going to shelters anymore because 662 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: they know that shelters are deadly because their COVID outbreaks 663 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: there in a lot of cases, and so they're living 664 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: on the streets and accumulating things that they need to 665 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: live on the streets. So now you are seeing the 666 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: unhoused population in your community much more than you used to, 667 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: and the like it's not being covered as like yeah, 668 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: of course they're doing that because that's what is saving 669 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: their lives, Like that's what it's just being covered like, well, 670 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: this is disgusting, like it's a problem, and like the 671 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: same with like people not going back to work. It's 672 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: like turned into laziness instead of you don't want to 673 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: be out in like a place that doesn't respect your 674 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 1: fucking like like your health, like especially right now while 675 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: we're living through a global pandemic. But the like that's 676 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: everywhere like across the center. Yeah, we did an episode 677 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: on we the Royal We I did an episode on 678 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: the politics about the ending of these unemployment benefits and 679 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: what what Miles brought up as far as like the 680 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: theory being, well, if you're getting free money, why would 681 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: you go back to work? And how that's just not 682 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: playing out like the the owner of um What's the 683 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: job Monster was was the the job site? Yeah, he 684 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: was like, we're just not seeing it in the states 685 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: that y'all ended it early. Who was ain't applying for jobs? 686 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: And when we did that episode, they was what was 687 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: in the news then was like Applebee's was offering free 688 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: appetizers or if you came to get an interview. And 689 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: to me, it's like to your point, Jack, like when 690 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: you think about economic models, like economy models, you know, 691 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: sociological trends, it's like, I just there's this weird like 692 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: but are y'all talking to actual people though, because like 693 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: your models and who are you modeling it by? I 694 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: remember in economics, I remember my undergrad you had they 695 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: had the the the average man was like what you 696 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: what you modeled all of your economic models on? But 697 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: like that's not a real person. You know, nobody has 698 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: nobody actually has two point five kids. You know what 699 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's not a person. So it's like, 700 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: how you modeling your whole model and what you're telling 701 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: me things is happening based on a human that don't exist. 702 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: If you just actually talk to a human that exists, 703 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: the ship makes perfect sist. Why would I go back 704 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: to his job? You had a year off on a 705 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: job to realize this job was bullshit. I was tired 706 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: all the damn time. I ain't to work and you 707 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: ain't pay me enough? Why the hell would I go back? Right? 708 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: Like they just like this just seems so easy, Like 709 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: or if you're an employer, just go I wonder why 710 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: nobody's coming give it getting our jobs. Maybe we should 711 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: offer appetizers or maybe you benefits money, Like how about 712 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: pay them better? How about treat people better? Why do 713 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: you think did and just like yeah, the homeless thing 714 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: is just like it's like you're not talking to actual people. 715 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: Do shame makes sense if you just talk to actual people, right, Yeah, 716 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: because everything is is done on a balance sheet, and 717 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: that's why it's so violent, because it doesn't take into 718 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: account people's humanity. They just look at well, eight and 719 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: a half million people with new jobs. I got ten 720 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: million jobs opening. The recovery is only a matter of time. 721 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,479 Speaker 1: But it's right there for you. Yeah, they're not just yeah, 722 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: it's just the idea they're you know, they're not just 723 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: looking at it at as humans. They can't do it. 724 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: There's no nuance to it. It's not eight and a 725 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: half million desperate people, you know what I mean. It's 726 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: and they're not seeing it. It's not. This is not 727 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: a half million people were maybe many of them need 728 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: to take care of a sick child or having a 729 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: parent they have to take care of. It's definitely the 730 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: way they look at it. It definitely can't be someone 731 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: who's living in a region where housing and food insecurity 732 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: is like a real threat. It certainly isn't somebody who 733 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 1: is going through an emotionally trying time because they've lost 734 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: a lot of loved ones and a job and it's 735 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: an omni crisis for this this person, because it's easier 736 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: just to say, well, this number, this number equals problem solved. 737 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: But that works only for a little bit, because now 738 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: you're just seeing all of the blood and carnage that 739 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: comes out of treating people like fucking numbers and not 740 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: as human beings with the vidual needs that have to 741 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: be taken into consideration. And it's not accurate, and and 742 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: it's becoming less and less, so like on it could 743 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: happen here the You're fellow Cool Zone media podcast Daily 744 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: Show U a Lebron James. Yeah, Roberts are Lebron James, Okay, 745 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: but they they interview to an economist who was saying 746 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: that now that everything is fucked basically now that we 747 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: are living in a you know, post normal world where 748 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: like everything from temperatures to disease spread to you know, 749 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: the the environment are no longer at a point of 750 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: equilibrium that they call it, like they you need to 751 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: be thinking about the economy as the way that like 752 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: desert environmentalists think about the desert, which is like if 753 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: you if you average the temperature of a desert, it's 754 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: going to give you like seventy but that's because it 755 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: drops to forty and then goes up to in the morning. 756 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: But like economists are working on it from from an average, 757 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: and it's just not gonna it's not going back to 758 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: the average any anytime. So yeah, I think when I 759 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: when I another one in my past life, when I 760 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: when I was teaching high school, I thought I didn't 761 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: like this. The school was like rice smack dab in 762 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: between sort of three different like hoods. And there was 763 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: a little boys and girls club that was like across 764 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: the street from the school. And I remember my the 765 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: administration put together this total like tutoring in after school program. 766 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: They I mean, boy, when I tell you, they was 767 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: breaking their arms, patting themselves on the back with this 768 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: uh this little after school program. They did this enrichment 769 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: for these you know, these inner city kids who you 770 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: know need these programs and for the life of them. 771 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: I remember sitting in this meeting me and that I 772 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: remember the vice principle was used from content. So we 773 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: we used to just look at each other during these 774 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 1: meetings and just be like, what what are y'all doing? 775 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But they don't know where 776 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: they are right, so they would make yes they're and 777 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: just just so confused. I remember these people just being 778 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 1: so befuddled as to why students that they thought needed 779 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 1: this wouldn't come. Why don't they in that? And I'm 780 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: like part of the town, like you, I don't even 781 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: have to finish it. I don't even have to finish it. 782 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: See what I'm saying. They're like, it's there for them. 783 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: It's like you, like you, Okay, you're trying to ask 784 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: this kid to walk through Flujah. You know what I'm saying, 785 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: to go to like like not like it's just just 786 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: the fact that like I just don't understand why I 787 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: have to tell you this. Like you work here, you're 788 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: talking to the same students I'm talking to, Like I 789 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: don't understand what you don't understand, Like what is you 790 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: looking at? And like you said, you're looking at documents. 791 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: You're saying, well, the average temperature seventy degrees And it's like, okay, 792 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: it's you're distant for many of the students who would 793 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: be it's easy to walk to I can't understand for snacks. Yeah, 794 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what does it mean to go on 795 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: the other side of Hyde Park? Oh? I don't know, 796 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And they're like, it's it's 797 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: really yeah. And again it's because we don't have we're 798 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: not taking into account people's humanity. We have people who 799 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: look at human life, his facts and figures, and we 800 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: just can't were It's just it's wild too, I think 801 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: all of us, because even in the situation you're talking about, 802 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: or we're talking about, if you speak to people and 803 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: understand what the threat the threats are to their well being, 804 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: then you can actually make a better decision rather than 805 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: just like this brutal, fucking math of like the million people, 806 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: no jobs, ten million jobs. Cut the fucking and let's 807 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: see what happens. Because the first thing in this research 808 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: that was done too, they said, when people's benefits get 809 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: caught up, the first thing isn't that they go looking 810 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: for a job. They start tightening up and they start 811 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: spending less. That's what happened. That's the first thing. People 812 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 1: do not go say, Okay, well, now I guess I'll 813 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: take a job that will not acknowledge my offer me 814 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: any dignity or anything, or acknowledge my humanity, and I'll 815 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: go back to this old way. So yeah, it's a 816 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: tough And then like and then I Also here I 817 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 1: have people whom I know, we're like, well it's different, 818 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: have a small business and things like that, Well then 819 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 1: you should be advocating for medicare for all. Hell think 820 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: about it aren't costs, Those aren't costs you would have 821 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: to have anymore because that ship would be covered. And 822 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: I know that's a huge that's a huge item of 823 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: financial burden as an employer is providing those things. So 824 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: then get on board because you can make it easier 825 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: for yourself too. And I and I'm not trying to 826 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: say it's all that simple, but we really need to 827 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: begin to shift how we look at the most basic 828 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: issues and and put humanity at the forefront or people's 829 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: individual experience to understand how to give people the best 830 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: outcomes with these policies. I love how you even add 831 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 1: like just the this is in your own best interest situation. 832 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: It's like if you got employees happy, people stick around, 833 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: like I want you to like it here, you know 834 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like so like I don't understand, Like 835 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: that's to your benefit? You know what I'm saying. And 836 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: like you said, when I think about like my assistant 837 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: that you know I pay like I pay her what 838 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: I pay her because I don't want her to leave. 839 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: She good at her job. So I'm like, okay, well, 840 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: what's it gonna take for you to be for you 841 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: to have to go be somebody else's assistant to make 842 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: ends me because I'm like, I can't afford that I 843 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: need your attention, So I'm gonna pay you enough to 844 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: make sure your attentions here. And if you say, if 845 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: you tell me that's the problem, like, hey, I'm gonna 846 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: need a little more. We're moving into this, then like, 847 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: all right, let's figure it out, because I can't afford 848 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: to lose you like it don't make I'm not gonna 849 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: be like, well you should be lucky. I'm letting you 850 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: like nah, Like even on a selfish situation, That's what 851 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Even in my own self interest, it makes 852 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,479 Speaker 1: sense to be like, oh, you're telling me. You're telling 853 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: me insurance is off my books. It's on the States books. 854 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I ain't got paid for it. Okay, cool, 855 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: let's go. You know, like y'all they're tripping. Man, I 856 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: don't understand why nobody. It just seems so logical, like 857 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: you said, right, and it's and I think because we're 858 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: we have so much propaganda that we're hit with constantly 859 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: that it's it takes a lot of your time effort 860 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: to even look past all that ship and try and 861 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 1: see the things for what they are. And it's tough 862 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. But until we really get there, 863 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna just keep making the same mistakes. 864 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean that I will just say that it's you know, 865 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: look at Jeff Bezos, like, you know, there there's the 866 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: examples where it's better, it's more sustainable for society, But 867 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: we also have a World's Richest Man that the last 868 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: twenty five years have created whose primary innovation was treating 869 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: people like ship. So like the the rewards are there 870 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: for the people who do the short term thinking and 871 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: just grind it until the wheels fall off and like, 872 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: and then they get to go to space. And when 873 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: they go to space, it gets covered five times as 874 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: much as fucking climate change. So it's just it's it's 875 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: a large social problem of like what what we reward 876 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: with our attention and what we reward with like the 877 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: the rewards in our in our culture. Yeah, we have 878 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: to redefine what bolling is and bolling should just be 879 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: providing for your community. That's you know, not exploiting the 880 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: people that work for you so you can take off 881 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 1: on a spaceship. That's yeah, that's like early two thousand's baling. 882 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: And you know what, I think we don't we're not connecting, 883 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: like how much, how much good comes out of people 884 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: having empathy and that that is truly something that you know, 885 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 1: I wish society we could reward people with more for 886 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: having that the forefront of the things that they do. Yeah, 887 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: all right, let's take another quick break and we'll be 888 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, and we're just talking to 889 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: break them that out the creek. I've never heard a 890 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: sound like that. His lies always contain big guys, like 891 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: these generals, they're big and handsome. And they told me, 892 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: they said, you're the greatest president since Washington maybe, And 893 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: this one contained like big firefighters coming to sweep him 894 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: off his feet. Huge huge, These firefighters were huge, and 895 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: they whisked me out of there, took me to their place. 896 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: And there's even a super cud of him talking about 897 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: big strong guys. L the size of that guy, powerful guy. 898 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: You know, I have a friend, big guy, one of 899 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 1: the biggest in the world. That's some big people behind me. 900 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: Guy big strong, big strong guy is big strong guy. 901 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so he's definitely like, yeah, sure 902 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: he loves a friend, big guy, one of the biggest 903 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 1: in the world, the biggest size of Christmas Hams. Did 904 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: he did he say that Christmas Hams thing old? You 905 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: know you're going to see his biceps. They were like 906 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 1: they were like the kinds of chains they used to 907 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: put on the side of navy battleships. So strong, so strong. Anyways, 908 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: you think he I would love. I wonder if, like Loki, 909 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: he's paid an artist to do like a like a 910 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: romance novel cover with him being swept away by one 911 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: of these like these big guys he's always talking about, 912 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, like a fabio esque just big chiseled guy. 913 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: You should have seen him. He swept me away from 914 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,959 Speaker 1: the rebel. Really, it felt so safe in his arms. 915 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: And that's how I want the country to feel with 916 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: my new military plan. Just feel you're just tender and 917 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: you're in the arms of a guy with biceps the 918 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: side of Christmas Hams just as sticky, and you're like, 919 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: how did you get the clothes in there? And the 920 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: hatch work on the cut on the fat. He's really impressive. 921 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: Al Right, well, I guess it shouldn't be surprising given 922 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: who was elected president twice sixteen, that America hasn't been 923 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: like super respectful classy when it comes to never forgetting 924 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,479 Speaker 1: nine eleven. So our writer j M kind of took 925 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: a look back at you know, nine eleven, the national 926 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 1: tragedy and merchandizing bonanza, and yeah, there's some wild ship 927 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: in here. So there was a big run of coins 928 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: that came out very early on. There's a medallion allegedly 929 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: made from recycled steel from the World Trade Center that 930 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: costs a mere thirty dollars and they this is you know, noble. 931 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: They set aside five thousand to ten thousand medallions for 932 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: the victims families at no charge. So like this kind yeah, 933 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: so we we turned this murder scene into a neck 934 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 1: chain for other people to buy. But here's for free 935 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: one for you because it's such a terrible loss. So sorry. 936 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: In two thousand four, there were coins supposedly minted from 937 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: silver recovered ground zero, which I don't know from the 938 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: pocket change of the victims. Like it wasn't there that 939 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: like rumor that there was this like vault or something 940 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 1: in the fucking basement. Oh some I just remember some 941 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: weird folksy bullshit thing of like, you know, there was 942 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: like a lot of precious medal in there too, But 943 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it could be true, but 944 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: maybe it was recovered. But I remember that was like 945 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: a big like a ground zero three kings where they're 946 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,280 Speaker 1: going going in depending, Yeah, what part of the internet 947 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: you were on at the time, right, So these they 948 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:40,720 Speaker 1: actually claimed were legally authorized silver dollars, which they weren't. 949 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 1: They were actually made by a novelty company that also 950 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: produced Harry Potter coins, which also not acceptable as legal 951 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: tender as far as I know. And then in in eleven, 952 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: the federal government started selling their own nine eleven commemorative 953 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: coin for you gotta market up so that you know, 954 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: you can take advantage of the fact that it's the 955 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 1: real deal from the people who brought you nine eleven 956 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 1: eleven coin. Sorry about our foreign policy, y'all. Here's a 957 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: coin directed by m Night Shamalan, sponsored by night shanating 958 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: who could say, no, what a specific number? Two? Why 959 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 1: does it have to be fifty seven dollars? Like what 960 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 1: is you know, is that the market number to make 961 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,800 Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, they were thinking about how value 962 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: all that is. Probably they could have just had a hundred, 963 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: but I think it's really probably worth close to fifty seven. 964 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: The government is honest. There was a non coin related merchandise, 965 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: the nine eleven coloring book for children, which you know 966 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: there was for the ladies. I'm sure, yeah, that there 967 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: was an image of Osama bin Laden being executed while 968 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: cowering behind a woman in a Muslim his job, which 969 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: is the text from the page. Yeah, so this is 970 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: so funny. Man, Like they just basically turned never forget 971 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: and to be like, never forget, we're now painting all 972 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: people from the Middle East as evildoers. Never forget that 973 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,479 Speaker 1: the script we're sticking to now, Like it was never 974 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: about the United States, because that's just this malleable concept 975 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: that people bandy around so disingenuously to bolster whatever fucked 976 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: up ideology they have. It's never about the actual country, 977 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: just sort of saying, well, this is the thing you 978 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: can't attack, so I'll put the country in front of 979 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: me and then that will protect whatever nonsense I'm advocating for. 980 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: Because it was like the other thing with the merchandise 981 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: is I remember every TV show they were like doing 982 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: stuff and people fucking wrapped up in the flag and 983 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: ship and crying and they're like, I just feel so 984 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 1: special to be part of this country. And it truly 985 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: was put us in this error where you could not 986 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: criticize the United States, like people who were on the 987 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,280 Speaker 1: news saying like, well, the reason people wanted to attack 988 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 1: the United States is because of all the destabilizing activity 989 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: that we do in the region that creates the hottest 990 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: movements and things like that, and they're like they're vanished 991 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 1: because you know, a fucking fighter jet is gonna like 992 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 1: nut red, white, and blue over like a football game 993 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: or some ship. I think a huge part of that is, 994 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: like not that Americans aren't or some Americans aren't racist already, 995 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: but I think to keep people obsessed with America, they 996 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: have to convince everyone that the rest of the world 997 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: isn't free and you're the only one that's free, and 998 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: that's why you should be so proud, as opposed to 999 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: like the reality, which is there's lots of places that 1000 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, free healthcare and like when you have a baby, 1001 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: you can stay home with your baby and yeah, what's 1002 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: that place? Sounds scary? Yeah? Do they have challenge coins 1003 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: to commemorate their They don't have merch though, that's I mean, 1004 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: that's where they lose me. You know. It was also 1005 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: like one of the most lucrative kind of storylines that 1006 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: America has ever because, like after the Cold War, the 1007 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: military industrial complex didn't really know what to do with themselves, 1008 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,919 Speaker 1: and then this gave them a new purpose. So they 1009 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:22,439 Speaker 1: successfully cashed in. But it was generally like seen as 1010 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: not a great look when like Walmart recreated the towers 1011 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: out of cases of soda. Yeah, which is there? I 1012 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: think a lot of people have seen that picture. But 1013 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: you got the red, white, and blue with the pepsi, 1014 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: diet coke and coke cans, and then the towers are 1015 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,439 Speaker 1: made of coke zero. And the thing is that people 1016 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 1: were mad that they were mixing pepsi and coke products. 1017 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: It was the should have done all pepsi because pepsi 1018 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: solves all of the world's injustices. Right, Yes, we've long 1019 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: said that. Yeah. Can you imagine if they had that 1020 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: same ad agency around nine eleven, if they were like 1021 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: with the Kendall Jenner, if they try to do something. 1022 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: It's like, Mohammed Ata here, I think you just want 1023 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: this pepsi sir. Yeah, yeah, she's a flight attendant. Yeah yeah, 1024 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. I would have been United ninety 1025 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: three or whatever the funk and it would have been 1026 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: a pepsi at this. That's what this, again, is so 1027 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: weird about everything, is that there's not there's nothing, there's 1028 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: no sanctity to anything every because and I think that's 1029 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: really what all this reveals is there's nothing sacred in 1030 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 1: this country, absolutely fucking nothing, not even human life, because 1031 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 1: it'll just be a fucking merch display or a commemorative 1032 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: blanket or a coin because someone else doesn't give a fuck. 1033 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: They just know that they can use these events to 1034 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: make more money or more furious. So never forget. Nothing 1035 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: is sacred here. The nine eleven Museum is still open. 1036 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 1: The gift shop is still like putting out products like 1037 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: a he's cutting board, a nine eleven commemorative cheese tray 1038 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: where it's in the shape of the United States and 1039 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: their little hearts where the hijacked airplanes went down. So 1040 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's something like meta about taking a knife 1041 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: to a board that the something about that this is 1042 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who made it, but it was an 1043 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: official selection. They like the person who runs the museum's 1044 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 1: gift shop, which again, the nine I Love Museum maybe 1045 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: maybe shouldn't have a gift shop, but the person who 1046 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: runs was like, we're carefully selecting products to make sure 1047 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: they're tasteful, and yeah, and apparently this fell under that category. 1048 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 1: And it's also just kind of extra fucked up because 1049 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: the nin Love Museum also has unidentified remains on the 1050 01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: premises of so like many relatives of it have actively 1051 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: protested just the idea of having fucking people selling mugs 1052 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: and t shirts and scarves wet boards yet because maybe 1053 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 1: that's some of them. They are pretty they do look 1054 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: pretty nice. Yeah, yeah, what do you what kind of 1055 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: fucking again, Like, there's so many things wrong with this 1056 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 1: cutting tray, cheeseboard, fucking sharkcou terrorism boards that they've got, 1057 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 1: but like, the only thing that this has it's a 1058 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 1: ceramic outline of the United States with just three fucking 1059 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: stars painted on like parts of the northeast. That's really 1060 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 1: so they've I'm sure they reappropriated some ceramic moons that 1061 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 1: all right, put stars there. It's nine eleven My next 1062 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: thing is, if you are putting this platter together, are 1063 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: you like really treating that section of the cheese board 1064 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: is sacred? You're not gonna lay a shipload of crackers 1065 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: and shipped on top of it and like honeycomb and 1066 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: further disrespect the matter. I just don't everything about it. 1067 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 1: Like I don't even know how you present it in 1068 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: a way that someone goes, oh my god, is this 1069 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 1: a nine eleven commemorat is that's so thoughtful of you? 1070 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Like this is You're such an ace with the decor. 1071 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 1: You know, I love it, Thank you so much, and 1072 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: like yeah, and and these wine eleven glasses that you made, 1073 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I mean does have 1074 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: to exist, right, there has to be wine eleven at 1075 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: this point. I mean, haven't we reached eleven? You can't 1076 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: help but forget or something like that where it's like, 1077 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, whine eleven. Never forget your corkscrew. There 1078 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: you go. The gift shop is still going today, selling 1079 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 1: everything from toy cars for sixty dollars that look like 1080 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: just twenty doll toy cars, but they have never forget 1081 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: written on the hood. And then there's also like a 1082 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 1: bunch of T shirts twenty years later, limited edition collection 1083 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: of just garbage. I just looked on say and there's 1084 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 1: some nine eleven like twenty years later. Never forget face masks, 1085 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 1: and I just don't think that the audience where never 1086 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: forget memorabilia and wears a mask ever overlap. Yeah, it's 1087 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: kind of a wasteful product. Really. That's an interesting person though. 1088 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 1: I'd like, where's that New York Times profile. They're multifaceted, 1089 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah, but yeah, it's just I don't know. Yeah, 1090 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: it's bad. So it's been twenty years. I mean Jesus, 1091 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: like it's it's been so long, and you think of 1092 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: how things have changed so drastically just in the last 1093 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: few years, but how we're still like really having a 1094 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 1: problem having a real again because America hates a reckoning, 1095 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 1: having a reckoning with this supposed war on terror and 1096 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,919 Speaker 1: the amount of money that was just hissed away while 1097 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: everything just went by the wayside here in the country. Yea, yeah, 1098 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I don't know. I'm I'm just 1099 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 1: thinking back with like how that fucking I remember the 1100 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 1: city in l A. People were so hopped up on 1101 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: that patriotism ship. It was fucking wild, Like every street 1102 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 1: turned into some like fucking jingle with It's just like 1103 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: everything was a parade suddenly, except for specific parts of 1104 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: the city. But yeah, like I just felt like everything 1105 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: else was just just this like weird fever dream that 1106 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 1: people went through in those first couple of years and 1107 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: like completely ignored what was actually at state. Yeah, hey, 1108 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: but the government knows what they're doing like that. All right, 1109 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitguys, please 1110 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show, 1111 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He he needs your validation, folks. 1112 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will 1113 01:04:52,320 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By Sai