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Speaker 1: making a special announce with the Maury Povitch Podcast when

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Speaker 1: you're when you let you My hero in the business

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Speaker 1: there will be no until next time, America, it will

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Speaker 1: be over. What would make you say goodbye? You've been

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Speaker 1: doing I mean you've been you know a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: Uh forget that you did news before the pop culture

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Speaker 1: masterpiece of of the Maury Povit Show. But what at

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Speaker 1: eight years and then before that news it was a

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Speaker 1: current affair, which was a big time kind of like

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Speaker 1: like I always look at like it's an artistic endeavor.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a performance. What you do on the

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Speaker 1: performance age. And we don't break down, uh like athletes,

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Speaker 1: go out. You know, Kobe would keep going if he could,

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Speaker 1: so long. So when you say when you leave, you leave,

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Speaker 1: This is my last stop. But do you think that

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Speaker 1: This whole thing, it's every day fake news, real news,

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Speaker 1: How is this all gonna I mean, you're not a

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Speaker 1: forced teller. You didn't bring your crystal ball? How is

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Speaker 1: I've been around white houses a long time, been in

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Speaker 1: woman had sex with two different people and she she

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Speaker 1: comes on accuses a guy of being the father of

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Speaker 1: her twins. Right. So the one thing I smartly did

427
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: when I first started the show is I don't know

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Speaker 1: the answers to any result you're finding out in real time.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want to because the questions you ask if

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Speaker 1: you knew the answer, they would be skewed. Yes, uh,

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00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: that you would know something more than not only your

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Speaker 1: live audience and your guests, but your audience at home.

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Speaker 1: So you don't want to know any You want to

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Speaker 1: be as surprised as they are and without shock or

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Speaker 1: without you know, acting shock. So I opened up the

436
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Speaker 1: envelope and this guy being accused of the father of

437
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Speaker 1: twins is the father of one but not the other.

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Speaker 1: How could that be? Fraternal twins? Not identical twins, but

439
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Speaker 1: identical twins? The same egg, same same, same for me.

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00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: So she's baking two chickens in one of them correct,

441
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: which means I don't know whatever. Whenever that period when

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00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: a woman is ovulating and can can get pregnant, she

443
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: slept with two guys and uh two things happened to chickens?

444
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: And did on the show? Did you guys track down

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Speaker 1: father be? No? Where is father be? Don't know? I

446
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: don't know. The woman was so shocked she just left

447
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Speaker 1: it as is. I don't I don't know what year

448
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: was that. I'm gonna say it was about I'd say

449
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Speaker 1: ten years ago. Have the people chump, I mean, people

450
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Speaker 1: must want to get some update on that. Oh you

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00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: know something, that's a crazy way to the world. We

452
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Speaker 1: want to talk to my staff. Let's find out where

453
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Speaker 1: did that father get involved? Did the woman find out

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Speaker 1: who the other father was? And how did the children

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Speaker 1: turn out? And the sperminator is a guy, explained to

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Speaker 1: the sperm kids fantastically, He goes and he goes, and

457
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: women want to have children, Okay, they need uh lesbians

458
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Speaker 1: want to have children. So he provides the sperm for them,

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Speaker 1: and he he drops it off. And yes, I think

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Speaker 1: I think it's happened over twenties. Sometimes I think maybe

461
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: he had relations once or twice. But for the most part, yes,

462
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: he drop it off and you insert the sperm, and uh.

463
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Speaker 1: The most amazing thing is he gets into the lives

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Speaker 1: of these kids as the father, as the father, as

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Speaker 1: the birth father, and I'm going, wow, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: some responsibility on me, kidding. You know, we all have

467
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: stories of friends, you know, back in the college days,

468
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: they went a sperm banks and delivered sperm. They kept

469
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Speaker 1: it there and they got paid a little bit because

470
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Speaker 1: they didn't have the money, I guess to uh to

471
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Speaker 1: live or something. And so this guy wants to be

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Speaker 1: the daddy. And what is he like in real life?

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a strange guy, you know, ship. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's almost meek. I mean he was. He wasn't a

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Speaker 1: outlandish personality. He was kind of he looked like a

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Speaker 1: guy off the street. I mean a regular guy off

477
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Speaker 1: the street, right, he's got a certain geness KOA, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't get it, but uh he that's

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Speaker 1: his calling. And what's a sort of like a sleeper

480
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Speaker 1: best of show that like doesn't get the sort of

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Speaker 1: you know, brought up like if I said, you like,

482
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Speaker 1: what's another one that like that's a good one and

483
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Speaker 1: it doesn't get the credit and tell you the one

484
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Speaker 1: that uh YouTube is very thankful for because it could

485
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Speaker 1: be ten million views by now. We used to do

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Speaker 1: a show and we still do it. Sometimes a woman

487
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Speaker 1: had a phobia. She could not stand to be around

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Speaker 1: a pickle, and she was called the pickle Lady. And

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Speaker 1: so the way we do these phobia shows, whatever phobia

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Speaker 1: you have, we used to bring the phobia on and

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Speaker 1: then break and then the woman would go back with

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Speaker 1: one of these you know, psychologist guys, and they would

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Speaker 1: by the end of the show calm this person down

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Speaker 1: and change their views towards their phobia. So we brought

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Speaker 1: out a barrel of pickles, you remember, the old barrel

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Speaker 1: of pickles and the delicatestes. She went nuts, she freaked out,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen the show. Freaked out and just ran

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Speaker 1: all over the place screaming it was a pickle, I

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Speaker 1: mean a pickle. How do you find this person? Well,

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Speaker 1: we we All we have to do is advertise or

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Speaker 1: something like that. We're looking for phobias. We had one

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Speaker 1: woman who couldn't stand cotton balls, and we she couldn't

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Speaker 1: stand the sound of a cotton ball in one's fingers.

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Speaker 1: We took an intern and he came out as the

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Speaker 1: cotton ball Man with cotton balls all over his body.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look like he was he was from

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Speaker 1: a class C ghost movie or something. She took a

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Speaker 1: look at the cotton balls, but not she's going crazy.

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Speaker 1: So in this day of some people people are scared

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Speaker 1: of balloons, people were scared of clowns people. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was crazy. But in this day is it harder

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Speaker 1: now because there's so many outlets for people to show

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Speaker 1: their absurdities, their craziness, you know, like they're they're they're

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Speaker 1: social media, their YouTube. Is it harder now to track

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Speaker 1: down those those generals stories. Yes, it is. First of all,

516
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: they've become personalities in their own right. They just go

517
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Speaker 1: on YouTube. They don't create, They create themselves by themselves.

518
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Speaker 1: They don't need me. It's crazy. I mean, I mean,

519
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: you don't need you don't need me anymore. It's like

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00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: I watched network news. Now you have the you have

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Speaker 1: the regular section probably the four fifteen minutes of the news.

522
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Then they break, then they come back and the next

523
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: segment is nothing but three YouTube stories some you know.

524
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Speaker 1: All they do is scroll through the social media, the

525
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Speaker 1: network newspeople and I'm going never used to be this way.

526
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Speaker 1: We used to have thirty minutes of news. So so

527
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Speaker 1: so if I say to you, MORI with with all

528
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Speaker 1: this fake news, not fake news, real news, sort of

529
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Speaker 1: fake news, how do people get informed? Like? What would

530
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Speaker 1: you say, like the top three places to sort of

531
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Speaker 1: get something if you wanted to if you want to,

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Speaker 1: like you're like if you want to say, if you

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Speaker 1: want to say, Okay, I'm tuning out everything. I just

534
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: want to see what happens. I want I want, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to see or even read it. God for

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Speaker 1: being I would go, well, I would go to the

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Speaker 1: PBS News Hour. I think they do a good job

538
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Speaker 1: and if there if there is opinion and stuff, they

539
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: balance it out. They don't. They usually have both sides

540
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: believe it or not. I mean not not that I'm

541
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Speaker 1: a not that that I'm an elitist or anything, but

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Speaker 1: I watched the BBC News sometimes because I get more

543
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: international news rights than anywhere else, believe it or not.

544
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Speaker 1: Even though I know where the Wall Street Journal is

545
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Speaker 1: coming from, I read, I read. This is the papers

546
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Speaker 1: that are delivered every day to my house, still unfortunately

547
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: in the print version, although I read them all also online,

548
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: The Times, the Washington Post, the New York Post, the

549
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Speaker 1: New York Daily News, USA Today, in the Wall Street Journal,

550
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: and you go through them all? Yeah, and what do

551
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: you without being like specific, going you know, breaking the

552
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: meat down? Is there a difference obviously the New York

553
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: Post and the Daily News. What I like, what I'd

554
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: like to see is which which ones feel which story

555
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: is more important to have the headline in a certain place.

556
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Speaker 1: That's how I judge, uh a company, I understand, That's

557
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: why that's where I judged the medium is what do

558
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: you what? What did you decide in your big conference

559
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: meeting that your number one headline is going to be

560
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: I got you? Now? Obviously some days you know it's

561
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Speaker 1: going to be the same because the event was so big.

562
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Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Cohen the other day, you know, going

563
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Speaker 1: to court and admitting this. That's a headline for everybody.

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Speaker 1: I mean unless j Lo appeared somewhere, she could have

565
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Speaker 1: or you know, Beyonce lost jewels something like that. But

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Speaker 1: that was across Like there's some days where it's just

567
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Speaker 1: like it's unanimous decision. By the way, I do you

568
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: know jay Z? I met him. I know him, like

569
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: we've met I know him. He would say, what's uping, Mike?

570
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Are you doing? Years ago? I invited him on the

571
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Speaker 1: show and I thought I had him, and instead he

572
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: sent me. He sent me an autograph poster of his

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Speaker 1: of his record album, and you didn't get him. Didn't

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Speaker 1: get him. But but you know, there are people a

575
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: lot of rappers for instance, I mean I'm in their

576
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: songs of course, man, yeah, you get name dropped. Actually,

577
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: who asked me to be in their video? Recently? Kine

578
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: asked you to be in the video? Did you do it?

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00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: I know, I haven't done it. I haven't. I haven't

580
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: done it. I I don't. I've been in some right,

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Speaker 1: Which ones was I am? Which one? I can't remember

582
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Speaker 1: which one I was in? Yeah, Drake used a clip

583
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: of me one that's big. We invited Cardi b on

584
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Speaker 1: because she was having problems with a boyfriend. I thought

585
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Speaker 1: that she was afraid, but you should try to get

586
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Speaker 1: Cardi beyond. I guarantee she's I know she's a fan,

587
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know Cardi b I think little Wayne

588
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: might have been on my show when he was little.

589
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: You should be like, you know, when when rapper beeps,

590
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: instead of them going online and fighting like usually, they

591
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: should come on your show and you helped solve him.

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00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: You know, this is a story I've heard, and believe

593
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Speaker 1: it or not, I don't go on podcasts, and I'm

594
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: glad to be on your podcast, but Shack has a

595
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: put Yes, and I'm going on Shack's podcast because Shack

596
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: watches my show every day, of course, and not only that,

597
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: he says he and his buddies bet as to whether

598
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: they're the father. That's funny. They plays beets in real time.

599
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: So what else do you watch? Like you're in you're

600
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: you love your golf? What is the Tiger? I am

601
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: so I can't stand him. I'm not saying everybody has

602
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: to be politicized. I'm not saying it, but like to sit,

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Speaker 1: I just think he's such a chump. Like I just

604
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: think he doesn't then for anything and like to sit

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00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: like he's just a sucker, Like I just think he's

606
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: a sucker. I think it's just I think some athletes

607
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: are so involved and so absorbed by what they do

608
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: politics and political people are outside of their world. And

609
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: then you don't have to Why are you hanging out

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00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: with him and playing golf with them? Well, you know

611
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't be my first choice. Uh, but you know when

612
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: the president of the United well, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling they played golf together before he

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Speaker 1: was president. Who knows, I think they had. I think

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00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: they you know, they knew each other. I think in

616
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: the good old days, when Tiger was really being Tiger.

617
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: See that's also the thing. Cut the bullshit, get to Applebee's,

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Speaker 1: get to Red Lobster, get to t G I F Friday,

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Speaker 1: and let the real Tiger come out. You'll be back

620
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: on top, although you're just gonna be in second place. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I so, I mean, I will not criticize

622
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Speaker 1: any athlete who says I'm just not political, I mean either,

623
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: but when you're when you're being the thing that really

624
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: bothered me recently is that I get that and people

625
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: and there's actors, and there's entertainers too. I get it.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. I don't expect that,

627
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: but I would the thing that I would expect from

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Speaker 1: tigers when when Trump is tweeting about you and Tiger

629
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Speaker 1: this t say something about don't get used as a

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00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: pointed out of his mouth to try to sway. That's

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Speaker 1: what I don't like that. That's unfortunately always the possibility

632
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: is that you unknowingly and by the way, he was blindsided. Yes,

633
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: didn't say something, put a tweet out or a statement

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00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:52,719
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678
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679
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Speaker 1: those old basic black and white photographs of me with

680
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Speaker 1: you remember the old flannel uniforms. And I was only

681
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682
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Speaker 1: as a bad boy was it was in spring training

683
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Speaker 1: and I was the bad boy and somebody had a

684
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685
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: picking up the bat and the guys scores slides. I

686
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: go tumbling around and the owner of the team tells

687
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Speaker 1: mother that kid of yours better start watching about his job,

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691
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Speaker 1: you know, when I was eight or nine, because everybody

692
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693
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694
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695
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696
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Speaker 1: oscar actually duds, Like, that's not what we're I tried

698
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Speaker 1: it one time too, when I was into baseball and

699
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700
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Speaker 1: everybody on TV doing it, and I bought it at

701
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Speaker 1: the deli around here. But so, so, who are your

702
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: five favorite athletes of all times of any sport? Like,

703
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: if I say more all the time, you're five, whether

704
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: whether you covered them or not, just like you're like

705
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Speaker 1: your guys. Muhammad Ali's number one, okay number one. Did

706
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Speaker 1: you have any experiences with him? Yeah, I've had. I

707
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: had a couple of experiences, well, a few. Invent one.

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Speaker 1: My father was was very friendly with Angelo Dundee, and

709
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Speaker 1: Angelo Dundee was was Muhammed Ali's trainer, and they're training

710
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Speaker 1: for the first Alive Frasier fight in and it was

711
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712
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: owning it and running it and wouldn't allow anybody to

713
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Speaker 1: do any interviews before the fight that he didn't control

714
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Speaker 1: and couldn't do a documentary or anything. So my father

715
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Speaker 1: gets Angelo Dundee in the Fifth Street Gym in Miami,

716
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Speaker 1: finds a way for me to get in there, and

717
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Speaker 1: I interviewed Muhammad Ali before the Frasier fight, and you know,

718
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: Ali was Ali was Ali. When he used to have interviews,

719
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: he was amazing. He would start out in this very soft,

720
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721
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Speaker 1: get anything out of him? And within a minute he

722
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: was off to the races. He was just this remarkable performer,

723
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Speaker 1: both in and outside the ring. And then later on,

724
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Speaker 1: when I was doing a talk show in Washington, I

725
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: did this show called Panorama, which was in the in

726
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Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties and early nineteen seventies. It was before CNN,

727
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Speaker 1: and it was a very newsy today show and it

728
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: was two hours a day, and everybody in the city

729
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: watched it, the White House, the Hill, all the government

730
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Speaker 1: agencies because it was the only news program on. And

731
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Speaker 1: I had Muhammad Ali and my father on at the

732
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Speaker 1: same time. And I said, I made the greatest mistake

733
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734
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Speaker 1: the way a lot of boxers end up where there's

735
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Speaker 1: a famous great boxer named bo Jack who ended up

736
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Speaker 1: shining shoes on the streets of Miami, Florida. And he

737
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: looked at me and he said, you know something, You

738
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Speaker 1: ain't as smart as your daddy said that he is.

739
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: You're not as smart as your daddy. And what did

740
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Speaker 1: you say? I said, you know something, You're damn right?

741
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Speaker 1: Did you feel like you? Like you over? I absolutely

742
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: made the stereotypical mistake. Were you did? You? Was your

743
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: heart race? Absolutely? Man, that's a great I mean, he

744
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: means so much to me, I mean to everybody, But

745
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: like those moments, you know, to have a life. I

746
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 1: talked about a life, and and then we would meet

747
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: occasionally and we became we're not friends, but became became friendly,

748
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: especially through his last wife and the other thing we

749
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: had together. We had the same birthday, that's jan so

750
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: uh so that and he knew that. And so, I

751
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: mean we would see each other. He was you know,

752
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: he would always you'd always want to fight you, you know,

753
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: you'd always want to He always getting a stance and

754
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: want to fight. I love that love. And he was

755
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: and and him and Cosell were the greatest act on TV,

756
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: the best. I mean Coaseell talk about a personality and

757
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: a voice in Howard. Howard he got mad at me

758
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: one time, wrote a book called tell It Like it Is.

759
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: So he came on my show and I knew him

760
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: and he my father. Which show did he come on?

761
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: This local show Panoramic Washington. It was probably the early seventies,

762
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: and I introduced him as ladies and gentlemen, I guess

763
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: as Howard Cosell. He's changed his name. He wears a

764
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Speaker 1: two pay and his book is called tell It Like

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00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: it Is. That's funny. You're very upset, That's funny. That's funny.

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Speaker 1: Um okay, So I leaves up there. Okay, yeah, uh,

767
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: magic to me is very important. I totally agree, very important.

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00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Uh so special. I want a life.

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Speaker 1: And the way he I mean you've been around him.

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Speaker 1: You know. One time I was at at a dinner party.

771
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: It was a birthday party for somebody. He was there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he's six ft nine. He's sitting like

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Speaker 1: in a sort of place where I wouldn't even sit,

774
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Speaker 1: like in the corner. Every person that came over to him. Man, woman,

775
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean they're all coming over. He stood up and

776
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: said hello and sat back down, and this is six

777
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: nine stood up and I was like, just I mean,

778
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Speaker 1: just a gentleman. Then you know what they were, the

779
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Speaker 1: whether they knew him, didn't him just recosfend stood up

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00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: and said all And I was like, I was, I'm

781
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Speaker 1: basically a I'm not a friend of magic. The reason

782
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: why I know magic is my magic. Magic and my

783
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: wife are the greatest of friends. That's my wife anchored

784
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: for years in Los Angeles for about seven years, and

785
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: he was playing. Then he would take my wife to

786
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: the with a chicken and waffle house or something, yes,

787
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: and so he would they would go there all the time.

788
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: So any time years later when Magic and was around

789
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: with the Lakers afterwards, But he would travel sometimes and

790
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: Connie and I would go to a Nick game. He

791
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: would just light up as soon as he saw my wife.

792
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: That's that's why I know Magic because of my wife.

793
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: That's cool. But he's easy to love. He sure is.

794
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean he and I mean when you think of him,

795
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,919
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796
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,759
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797
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: because he was so comfortable with her, and um, I

798
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: mean when you take a look at everything that's gone

799
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,920
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00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: He's built a financial empire. He got Lebron to the Lakers.

801
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Speaker 1: They're gonna wind up being like you know, they're gonna

802
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: take they'll do something. Yeah, they're gonna do something. They're

803
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: gonna do something this year. They're gonna do something next year.

804
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna as long as Lebron is healthy, they're gonna

805
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: do something. But you got them there, so you're around

806
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: NBA stuff. What what are the players think of Silver?

807
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: Adam Silver that I don't know. I think they think

808
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: he's cool, but I can't say because that I don't

809
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Speaker 1: know that that. I don't know. What do you think

810
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: of him? I think it. I think the Donald Sterling

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Speaker 1: thing made him because it was like his first week

812
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00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: right thing there. And then did you see what they're

814
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Speaker 1: doing about trying to shorten the game again? What do

815
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Speaker 1: you think of that? They're tryingout the rebound. They're trying

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00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: to defensive rebound. They're trying to when when when an

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Speaker 1: and it instead? What is your opinion? I like that

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Speaker 1: because of why because we're gonna have action quicker. Don't

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Speaker 1: you think I think it's good. Why do you think

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Speaker 1: the NBA is so popular in terms of sports? I

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Speaker 1: think the NBA's back, in fact, on the up when

823
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: football and baseball are on the down. I think the

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Speaker 1: NBA because the players are the coolest. You know lebron Kobe,

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Speaker 1: They're they're young. Um, the game is sexy, it's international.

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Speaker 1: The uh, whether you really like basketball or not, you

827
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Speaker 1: know the players football they're still you know, they have

828
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Speaker 1: to put the mask. It's the it's the head gear.

829
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Speaker 1: I was the same thing with hockey. You don't see,

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Speaker 1: you don't know who they are. I was at a

831
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Speaker 1: and I followed football closely. I couldn't tell who the

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Speaker 1: hell was who without the helmet on. Once they put

834
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835
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Speaker 1: helmets off and out the without the numbers, I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know their faces, like unless it's like Odell

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Speaker 1: does the blonde. That's why I always tell you know,

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840
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Speaker 1: when you go to the locker room, you always go

842
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Speaker 1: to the same players, right, It's always the same faces.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I mean, there are fifty some people

844
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: on the team and you go to the same three

845
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: all the time. You have athletes always, you know, in

846
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: your experience, been as guarded as they are. Because I

847
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: feel sorry for the NBA players and the fact that

848
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: it's a three D sixty five day a year. They

849
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: can't even talk shipped to each other anymore because if

850
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: they say something, whether it's caught in the library, It'll

851
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: be on in SoC Social media has killed any chance

852
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: of athletes being themselves in front of the public. They

853
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: can't say anything. They're talking like their mobsters with their

854
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: hands covering them. On the other side of it, all

855
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: of them have handlers, right, They're like debutantes. They got handlers. Only.

856
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: By the way, the only sport that's not true in

857
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: believe it or not is hockey. Right. They're much more

858
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: approachable hockey player. I play a lot of golf with

859
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: hockey players, much more approachable, much more unguarded. It's a

860
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: different it's a different kind of person because they they

861
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: never made the real big money, right, And there's not

862
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: that a au. There's not like he's been famous since

863
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: he's thirteen. Did you see and I'm gonna let you

864
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: go because I don't want to keep you too. Did

865
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: you see last night on HBO Lebron James's show, No,

866
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: what was it was? It's called The Shop and it's

867
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: him and a bunch of athletes sitting around talking. You

868
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: have to watch it because I have my opinions of

869
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: all Lebron James as a player, but as a person,

870
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: I think he's fantastic. I would love to hear your opinion.

871
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: I've never seen an athlete even a star like an actor, rapper, singer.

872
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: Ye he was. I mean not just the things he

873
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: was saying, the way motherfuck this, fuck this, I was

874
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: like what it was. But but you know, like just

875
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: speaking like how he speaks, like unfiltered about everything. See,

876
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: I I had have this view about Lebron and Kobe.

877
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: More Lebron than Kobe. Kids never went anywhere in education

878
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: other than high school, and they are so smart and

879
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: so savvy and so understanding of the climate in which

880
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: they live. It is remarkable. I mean, so much smarter

881
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: than I am in terms of trying to judge what's

882
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, look in the future, and and be

883
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: a visionary. These kids never made it out of the

884
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: after the twelfth grade. And you know he was he

885
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: could have done anything. They weren't going to fail him

886
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: right from from eighth grade. I don't know how much

887
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: he went to school. Who knew he mean, you know,

888
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: whether he was or he wasn't, It's like he could

889
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: do whatever. It means. He's a star athlete. So I mean,

890
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: I think he's quite remarkable. And uh, and not only that,

891
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean I still believe that. I mean maybe a

892
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: hair over the you know, maybe the absolute zenith is

893
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: over for him in terms of being a player. But

894
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: he's the most dominant player I think in the league.

895
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: It's not even close. It literally like last year, his

896
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: fifteenth year. It's like you can give the m v

897
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: P to whoever you want about that year and those legs.

898
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: And I can't tell you how many former NBA players

899
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: I know, and this is from years ago. Every one

900
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: of them hip replacements, knee replacements, can't play much anymore.

901
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: Never were really good after about thirty one or two.

902
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: And that's after they went to college, which they only

903
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: had ten years in the league, and they were really good,

904
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: he said, fifteen and I don't and running much more

905
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: than guys in the old days. He's ridiculous. He's ridiculous.

906
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: That being said. As far as a sports person that

907
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: I love to root against but also appreciate the greatness,

908
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: he's my favorite. Him and Tom Brady. I can't stand

909
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: them both as players. I can understand that, but they're

910
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: not I'm not a Patriot fan. I'm not a I'm

911
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: not a I wasn't a Cavalier fan. I wasn't a

912
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: Miami fan with Lebron, but you got to appreciate course.

913
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: But let me, why do you think people have turned

914
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: on the Warriors because they're so good. They're like they're

915
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: like the billionaire's boy club. They're like this fraternity that

916
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: it's just such an elite fraternity. Steph Curry, Uh, you

917
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: either love him or hate him. He's so sort of

918
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: without trying to be so sort of like everything looks

919
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: so easy, and he never he like he you know,

920
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: he's never at a at a breath. He walks to

921
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: the free throwing and he's not trying to be like

922
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: that's just how he is. He's like he's an ever

923
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: vescent I don't ever use that word guy. And they

924
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: keep winning and and and they talk ship. They have

925
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: they have everything because they have the Golden Boy and Steph.

926
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: They have the bad guy in Durant. He's one of

927
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: the most polarizing right, and then you have Draymond Green,

928
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: who's the great antagonizer you have you know, you have

929
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, I mean who it was. It was an

930
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: expulse and now it's just we have to take them down.

931
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: You have to take them down and you don't care

932
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: who does? Oh no, no, no, no, I like him.

933
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: I I was at Game three in Cleveland with a broom, Mari.

934
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: I had a broom, an actual broom, a full not

935
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: a not a sweep or not NBA. They didn't like

936
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: that I had the broom. But in my opinion more

937
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: you tell me if you think I'm crazy. It's game three,

938
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna sweep them. I'm just here to help clean up.

939
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: This is my and I'm thinking, why am I the

940
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: only one they're helping clean up? Like the sweeps coming.

941
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: I got the broom in Cleveland. Not everybody was happy

942
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: about it in Cleveland. No, yes, in Cleveland. By the

943
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: time I got to my seat, because I was I

944
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: was at courtside making By the time I got to

945
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,959
Speaker 1: my seat was like seven eight minute. You know, Journey,

946
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: I got a phone go going. That broom needs to

947
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: be taken out of here for Yeah, they were because

948
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: but anyway, Maury, Maury, Maury, I we could do a

949
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: whole sports podcast because I you know, like, I love

950
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: your interests in sports. I mean I watch I watch everything,

951
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: and I'm fascinated. Uh in every sport, every single athlete

952
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: is so much better than they used to be in

953
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: terms of in terms of talent, the evolution of man.

954
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I mean, it's unbelievable how fast they are.

955
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, how expert they are. I mean even in

956
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: my game of golf, right, I mean these guys now

957
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: are these guys look like football players the size of

958
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: a And and you never if you were over five,

959
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: ten or eleven, people said you can't play golf. You're

960
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: not that, you'll never get the coordination, you'll ever be

961
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: that good. And in every sport, whether it be baseball

962
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: or basketball or football, they are, they are unbelievable. Yeah,

963
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna be one day there's gonna be a point

964
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: guard the size of Shack in our lifetime and the

965
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: next ten fifteen years will be a point Magic played it.

966
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah at a crucial time, the same size of Lebron. Yeah,

967
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: and and and then there's gonna be a guy like

968
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: doing stuff. Take Lebron can play point guard. I'm I'm

969
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: seeing a guy who starts off as a point guard

970
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: and like stize off like like who can play the

971
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: like literally like will be like a Steph Curry guy

972
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: the size of Shaquille O'Neal like he's shooting around the perimeter.

973
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: It's the evolution of man. It's I mean, these guys

974
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: in the sixties and seventies, this I mean they were

975
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: not like the old Nicks. My guys could was not

976
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean, they had were insurance salesman

977
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: in the off season, right, they had jobs in the

978
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: off season, you know, like they were butchers. And when

979
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: I was a kid, all the baseball players were farmers

980
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: in the office. Right, So it's a different. Now it's

981
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: a full time thing. They're jumping, you know, to who's

982
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: like a rubber band. They think the season is four

983
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: months bold. No, it's a whole bullshit. It's about nine months,

984
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: ten months. Right. It's the the football players. You got

985
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: O t A s and mini camps and off season practice,

986
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: off season in the gym, and they got hyperbolic chambers

987
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: and ice spot. You know, it's a it's a different

988
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: it's evolution. So I mean, it's it's good all right,

989
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: Mari Povich. I can't tell you how how much I

990
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: appreciate this conversation. It's my pleasure. I'm so happy you

991
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: know you got I saw you got over a million

992
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: followers on Twitter. Yes, lovers their their lovers and haters. Oh,

993
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: I mean they don't know a lot. I mean the

994
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: way I talk, you know, you know, it's very interesting.

995
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: I I have a big Facebook account and of course

996
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: terms of the show and stuff. I can't read the comments,

997
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: can you. I mean I don't read them like I

998
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: used to because I figured it out now I used to,

999
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: like I'm saying, used to, like I'm talking about six

1000
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: months ago, eight months ago, because it's it's it's so new,

1001
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: you know. I you read them, but like now I

1002
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: get the game more. But I'm not. I am a

1003
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: very easily antagonized person. But now that I get like

1004
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna comment, you can say, uh, it's a beautiful

1005
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: day out, Fuck you asshole, you know what a great day?

1006
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: And kiss my fucking your movie sucks, you suck. I

1007
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: have a friend who you might know. Good friend is

1008
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: Michael Wilbon. So. Michael actually was at the Washington when

1009
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: my father was there and my father he was there

1010
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: as an intern for crying out Loud and Michael says

1011
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: he won't read anything. I won't read a thing. I'll

1012
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: read it, but I don't deep dive you can't deep dive.

1013
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean unless you're like you you know, like you know,

1014
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: you have to know what you're going getting. I get

1015
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 1: it more now. I used to be like, what the

1016
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: fucking fuck you you know now? But now I know

1017
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: that there's no winning in it, Like there's literally you

1018
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: could be like, what a gorgeous day, kiss my ass,

1019
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: you loser, you know, jump off a bridge something anything.

1020
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: So I really appreciate this morning. I appreciate it. Thank you, Michael.

1021
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: All right, congratulations to Mari Povic twenty one year anniversary

1022
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: over your show. Thank you so much for rocking with

1023
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: the best on the Iron Wrap Reports stereo podcast. What

1024
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: can I say? I told you this was Smithsonian quality,

1025
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: museum quality podcasting. We came, we all, we conquered. G

1026
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: Moody last name rhymes with duty, will be back the

1027
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: rest of the week. My name is Michael rapport A

1028
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: k the Greno Man Diggo signing off. Thank you so

1029
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: much more. Povic for coming on the podcast. Miles Jordan's

1030
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: take us out of here with something really nice. That's

1031
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: something real proper