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Speaker 1: Welcome to an all new episode of her playbook. Her

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Speaker 2: I am thrilled.

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Speaker 3: this podcast? I think so.

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Speaker 2: If not, we'll edit it all right now. She is phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: I love her stuff and I'm so thrilled to have

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Speaker 1: her as a sponsor of our podcast. I'm so thrilled

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Speaker 1: to have you on the podcast in studio uh for

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Speaker 1: our guest listening and watching at home. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: introduce Jill Martin. Jill Martin an Emmy Award winning television personality,

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Speaker 1: a fashion expert, co author a Fashion for Dummies. She

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Speaker 1: is a New York Times best selling author. She's a

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Speaker 1: contributor to The Today Show. She is a designer and

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. What can't she do? Jill, I'm so thrilled.

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Speaker 4: To have you and thank you for having because this

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Speaker 4: has been I am partnering with the Giants.

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Speaker 3: I'm a proud partner of the New York Giants.

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Speaker 4: But to be on this show where you promote, you know,

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Speaker 4: strong women who are fighting for all different things. I

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Speaker 4: appreciate it, and I appreciate you doing it.

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Speaker 1: I am so thrilled to have you here now. I

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Speaker 1: mean you mentioned being a proud partner of the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. For those of you listening to the audio

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Speaker 1: only version, you cannot see the fantastic shirpa that Jill

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Speaker 1: is wearing right now, I have one here as well.

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Speaker 2: That it is.

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Speaker 1: First of all, we got a Giant's logo on this.

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Speaker 1: This is good for those This is the coziest item

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Speaker 1: I will be living in this all winter, all fall.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited about this. But by Jill Martin,

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Speaker 1: a new line that you have created, local collaboration with

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Speaker 1: the Giants, local licensing.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about how this came about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so well, first of all, thank you for that introduction.

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Speaker 4: It's like my mom said that introduction. So I've been

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Speaker 4: fine tune where I'm putting my energy. I was one

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Speaker 4: a person who worked twenty four hours to day, seven

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Speaker 4: wanted to focus my energy in buckets. So I took

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Speaker 4: my best selling items, which this one that if you're

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Speaker 4: matter the temperature. I mean, I've been hot this summer.

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Speaker 4: But I'm only doing four items this year, and I'm

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Speaker 4: the Giants, and then I'm doing a stuffed animal and

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Speaker 3: With the New York Giants.

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Speaker 4: You I've been an amazing I've had an amazing experience

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Speaker 4: you don't have to sacrifice style for comfort. So you see,

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Speaker 4: I'm in a slip dress, right, and the sweater over it.

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Speaker 4: So it's something that every person should own. And I'm

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Speaker 4: just really excited to bring it to to to the Giants.

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Speaker 4: I saw on the other side the Coaches Show. I

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Speaker 1: And I love like you said stylistically. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: The game, right, So yeah, And what's great about it

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Speaker 4: And so, you know, I'm excited to bring that also

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Speaker 1: Now we've touched on it a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 4: If you, you know, want a job, Just get in somewhere,

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Speaker 4: But I started at the Maury Povid Show as an assistant.

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Speaker 4: you know. I always feel like confidence is the main asset,

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Speaker 4: But now I'm so grateful because when I, you know,

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Speaker 3: And so that's the recipe for success.

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Speaker 4: So if this doesn't work, I'm done, Like I don't

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Speaker 3: But I feel like I'm here.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like for this in particular, where you

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Speaker 1: Right, That's so true, and it's so fascinating to hear

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Speaker 1: But it's one of those things too, where it shows

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Speaker 4: we do the right thing, we show up, we're nice

438
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Speaker 4: to everybody like That's how my family is a very

439
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Speaker 4: strict moral compass. But I do feel like, you know,

440
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Speaker 4: a responsibility. I feel like I was given so much,

441
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Speaker 4: even though so much has been taken away from me,

442
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Speaker 4: I was given so much and like such beautiful platforms

443
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Speaker 4: and so like to be here with you. It's truly

444
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Speaker 4: like an honor because we're reaching so many people to say,

445
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Speaker 4: you know, whatever you want to take whatever comes out

446
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 4: of this that they could take from us, to say, Okay,

447
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Speaker 4: this will get me through this day, or this is

448
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Speaker 4: how I'm going to approach this. It's a much bigger

449
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 4: passion project for me than just somebody who tests positive

450
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Speaker 4: for the gene and you know, gets the preventive surgery right.

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Speaker 1: And it is so important too to spread that awareness.

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Speaker 1: And I know that part of that is being so

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Speaker 1: candid and so open about your journey from day one.

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Speaker 1: But I'd imagine there's a bit of a challenge in

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Speaker 1: having such a public life. You know, you are a

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Speaker 1: public figure. Are there moments in which these vulnerable elements

457
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Speaker 1: of your life it's hard to share?

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Speaker 4: Of course, I mean, of course you feel that and

459
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Speaker 4: of course, like you know one of my like dear friends,

460
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Speaker 4: well you know her, Kathy Lee Gifford is one of

461
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Speaker 4: my best friends. And we're honoring Frank of course this

462
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Speaker 4: year with the hundredth and but she said to me,

463
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Speaker 4: she said, because she always says to me, no matter what,

464
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Speaker 4: make sure your nails, make sure you get a manicure, pedicure.

465
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Speaker 4: She's like, you'll just feel better. And I appreciated that

466
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Speaker 4: kind of advice. And only your best friends can say

467
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Speaker 4: that to you. She always said, you're you're and I

468
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Speaker 4: always love this, and she was so nice, but she said,

469
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Speaker 4: you were so beautiful and you used to walk into

470
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Speaker 4: a room and heads turn, and then you lost your

471
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Speaker 4: hair and you lost your eyebrows and you lost your eyelashes,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I lost my a female part, many

473
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Speaker 4: female parts, and so you know, she said, I understand

474
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Speaker 4: how that must also feel from just a.

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Speaker 3: Superficial stamp.

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Speaker 4: And I appreciated that because just because you could hold

477
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Speaker 4: all the.

478
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Speaker 3: Things you could want to be healthy.

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Speaker 4: But like I was like, I just want to look

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Speaker 4: like myself now, I just want to feel like myself.

481
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Speaker 4: I was so sick, and so I do think like

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Speaker 4: it's important to also say, people are like, oh, you know,

483
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Speaker 4: I didn't want to tell you because you know, I mean,

484
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Speaker 4: I have this, but you have cancer. I'm like, I

485
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Speaker 4: don't want you to have cancer. Your problems or your

486
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Speaker 4: grief and pain is not equatable. Like you cannot say

487
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Speaker 4: if you're going through something that is equal to what

488
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Speaker 4: somebody else just because you don't have cancer. Thank God

489
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Speaker 4: you don't have cancer. I don't want anyone else to

490
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Speaker 4: have this. I mean, my heart breaks. But so I

491
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Speaker 4: think it's really important A long answer to your question.

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Speaker 4: I think it's really important to know, and I really

493
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Speaker 4: want to stress that you can hold both things. You

494
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Speaker 4: could really be into sports and want to look beautiful

495
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Speaker 4: or want to feel your best and want to dress

496
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Speaker 4: up and wear whatever you can, want to save lives,

497
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Speaker 4: and also say I understand why losing your hair is

498
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Speaker 4: such a big deal. It's part of your identity. I mean,

499
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Speaker 4: my hair was like yours.

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Speaker 3: Literally Fara faucet and she went through it too. I

501
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Speaker 3: watched your documentary on her.

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Speaker 4: So the moral of the story is when you lose

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Speaker 4: things that you are out of your control, like you

504
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 4: could always be nice. You could always be nice, and

505
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Speaker 4: that is like kindness is just so important and what

506
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Speaker 4: got me through, you know, this challenging time and being

507
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Speaker 4: public about it in some ways was easier because people

508
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Speaker 4: were so compassionate. Like there's a woman and I won't

509
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Speaker 4: name her name that works at the show and she's

510
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Speaker 4: always so nice to everyone and opening the doors and

511
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Speaker 4: closing the doors and making sure everything's okay. And she

512
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Speaker 4: came up to me and she said, you know, I

513
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Speaker 4: battled this last year. And I was like, how did

514
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Speaker 4: we not know that? Because you are like taking care

515
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Speaker 4: of everybody. So for me, at least I got the

516
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Speaker 4: grace from everybody saying like are you okay? Are you okay?

517
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Speaker 4: And was handled. I can't imagine. And so many women

518
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Speaker 4: go through it. So many women are protecting their kids

519
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Speaker 4: and not telling them because they don't want their kids

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Speaker 4: to be hurt. I mean, I literally couldn't walk into

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Speaker 4: another room. I don't know how people do it. So

522
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Speaker 4: now I spend my days like on the call, on

523
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Speaker 4: the ride here talking to people who are a few

524
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Speaker 4: months behind me in treatment to say, you know.

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Speaker 3: I cold capped.

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Speaker 4: That's how I saved thirty percent of my hair and

527
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Speaker 4: now it grew back. You know, so cold capping is

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Speaker 4: you have to sit for twelve extra hours ten to

529
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Speaker 4: twelve extra hours the day of your treatment, which is

530
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Speaker 4: not good and it's negative twenty five degrees. Cold ice

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Speaker 4: packs and they put it on your head. Every twenty

532
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Speaker 4: five minutes they change it to freeze the follicles so

533
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Speaker 4: that when you're done with your treatment, because it makes

534
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Speaker 4: you lose your hair, it grows back faster. So picture

535
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Speaker 4: your follicles being frozen. And then when the treatment, when

536
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Speaker 4: the medicine is no longer in your system, your hair

537
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Speaker 4: starts to grow.

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Speaker 3: So people who are who have.

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Speaker 4: Had treatment at the same time as me, who chose

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Speaker 4: not to cold cap and are embracing their short and

541
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Speaker 4: they look amazing. But my hair is growing now, you know,

542
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 4: and it's back. And my hair was like my thing.

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Speaker 4: Know that was like if I said to you, like

544
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Speaker 4: you're have long, beautiful blonde hair too, but like it

545
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: was my thing, and so I chose to do that.

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Speaker 3: But it was very hard on me. I'm very hard

547
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Speaker 3: on my body.

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Speaker 4: And so I'll sit with you know, there's a girl

549
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Speaker 4: who's going through it now who I'm like, okay, you know,

550
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: we have three more and this is what you do,

551
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Speaker 4: and this is like what you take the next day

552
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Speaker 4: and you know, so, yeah, that's a really long answer

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Speaker 4: to your question, but I hope helpful.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it's you know, it is such a hurdle

555
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Speaker 1: to go through. You know, you lose part of your femininity,

556
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Speaker 1: whether it's your hair or your biology or whatnot, but

557
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Speaker 1: regaining it and reconquering it. I mean, look at you.

558
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Speaker 1: You're stunning right now, and you're sitting here saying like,

559
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Speaker 1: I feel like I lost myself.

560
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at you where now I accept that.

561
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Speaker 2: It's just like, but I get it.

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Speaker 4: Someone said it to me last night. It's a different

563
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Speaker 4: kind of stunning. It's just I look so different. Like

564
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: I look in the monitor and I'm like, that's not

565
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 4: what I look like. But and then I'm like, okay,

566
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: like I have like my eyelashes grew back, and I

567
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: just came from the Today Show, so I have full

568
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 4: makeup on. But I'm proud of myself and I'm more

569
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Speaker 4: confident than I've ever been because if I can get

570
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 4: through that, yeah, I mean, there's there's nothing I can't do.

571
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Speaker 1: And reacquainting with this new version of yourself. So Jill

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00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: two point oh, Jill two point zero, which whether it's

573
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: going through cancer or going through life changes or job

574
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Speaker 1: changes or any sort of adversity anything we all have

575
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Speaker 1: to kind of reckon with. Okay, who am I in

576
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: this chapter? And how do I make peace with that?

577
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: And I just commend you for doing it with such

578
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: thank you, such grace. And what do you want to

579
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Speaker 1: bring from your former self? Right from like, let's say

580
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Speaker 1: call it Jill one point oh, Like, what did I

581
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: want to bring over that was that warranted it? So

582
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Speaker 1: I've gotten there is my piece is non negotiable, as

583
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: Kathy Lee always says. So I'm living in a space

584
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: now that I do what I want, I see what

585
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I want, I operate in kindness. I am, you know,

586
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: like wearing Shirpas. It's very hot in here now, but

587
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm wearing it because I'm only doing four items out

588
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: and and.

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00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: Grateful, like really really grateful.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I have to ask you if

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Speaker 1: you brought over from Jill one point oh to Jill

592
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: two point zero. I was looking at your website and

593
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: on your website you have a fantastic fun facts section

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Speaker 1: and one of the fun facts that I.

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Speaker 4: Had to read twice. And know what you're gonna say ventriloquism.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I thought the club MTV dance.

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Speaker 1: The Club MTV Dancer is a great story, But a

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Speaker 1: ventriloquist is a skill that I have never met somebody

599
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: who could do.

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Speaker 3: Can I left?

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Speaker 4: You can't see it, No, I see it, but you

602
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: can hear It's it's ridiculous. Well, I like, I just think,

603
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: like my father was always the funny one.

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Speaker 3: You know. He would go to a party.

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00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: It does go to a party still, and he would

606
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: go to the gift table and take the cards and

607
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: write his name on every present. You know. So like

608
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 4: I learned magic, you know, I went to a magic class,

609
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: and then I heard clown school was fun.

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Speaker 3: I was going to do that and then I don't know.

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00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: I was like talking one day and I got a

612
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: puppet and I went on this rant at dinner parties

613
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: and people were like, who is this girl? And then

614
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: and then they're like, aren't you the one from the

615
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: Stay Show. I'm like, yeah, this is like So I

616
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Speaker 4: did it on the air and it was It was

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Speaker 4: short lived the ventriloquism section, but Jill Martin dot Com

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00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: is now moving into my Shirpes Central, so the fun

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Speaker 4: facts will be eliminated, but thank you for bringing that

620
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: up because we know one boy no is not that's

621
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Speaker 4: not coming over.

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Speaker 3: But the club MTV dancer.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I am looking for a good time and I

624
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: am looking to dance, so you know, I always your

625
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: team laughs at me, and I know they're watching now,

626
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Speaker 4: but I'm like, any place I go, I just want

627
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 4: a disco ball, a DJ and an embroiderer because we

628
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 4: can embroider our pieces. So so yeah so, but mostly

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Speaker 4: it's it's fun and peace and health.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, fun and peace and health is something that

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Speaker 1: we wish for all of us. And I love this

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Speaker 1: Jill two point zero journey. I'm so grateful to you

633
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Speaker 1: for sharing this time with me and with our audience today,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Jill Martin.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so thank you for having me and I

636
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Speaker 4: look forward to a great rest of the season together.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely