WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Changes In The Coaching Staff 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:09.000 This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:18.840 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys Boy No. Your hosts, 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:24.600 Mickey's Fagnola, Brian broad Us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:29.360 welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It is Tuesday, 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.000 so it is talking time, and we've got lots to 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.880 talk about here at the Star in Brisco. Of course, 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.840 I was joined by my lovely colleagues here. We've lots 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.199 to fill you in on and and unfortunately I was 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:44.160 informed pre show Mickey will not be debuting his single 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.280 here today. Yeah, another time I did everybody of favor. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.240 You promised so many people. I did everybody of favor. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.880 Was that the duet with Dean Martin? Yes, absolutely, bringing 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.560 him back to live Holograhamson. Maybe it was Perry Como, 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.840 Perry Como there you go? Wow, you want to keep 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.840 going back for I can go with you, Mickey, But nowadays, 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.960 who knows we'll drop? Who will drop a single while 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:10.160 we're on air today? Ever? Know that released? Yes? And 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.440 it blew our minds. Yep, almost as much as the 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:18.520 incredible Minnesota Miracle. How about that, Brian? You always say 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.000 that it's hard to win in that place. Hard to win. Yeah, 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.679 and they were ten seconds or so from winning, So 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:29.120 that's it's unfortunate. I actually talked to Sean Payton yesterday. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.600 What do you say I did. He just was saying 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.280 that they needed to play better than the first half. Yeah, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.160 that was he did. Says, Hey, it doesn't come down 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.600 to one play. He said, we made two many mistakes 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.080 in the first half of that football game. First shutout 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.240 for the New Orleans Saints in the first half, sixty 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.000 one consecutive games. Wow, Yeah, the longest record in the league. Yeah, 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.720 he shouldn't fall behind seventeen. That's what I'm saying. He said, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:52.920 you know, if we made some mistakes, and you know, yes, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.960 everybody's saying, you know, the kid made made a big 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.600 mistake there at the end, But we guess we just 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.280 didn't play well enough the first half. And that's you know, 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.080 I mean, he's a good spirits and all, but you know, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.040 it's a big opportunity they missed there, you know, and 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.480 they're running. You're getting to the end of a career 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.720 with with Drew Brees, you know, and you don't know 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.160 how many more of those runs you're going to get 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.320 to make, you know, and it all kind of comes down. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.959 You think you kind of have everything in control and 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.600 it doesn't work out at the end. Lady. Yeah, A 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.000 strange lady. It's a strange lady. Give the Vikings some 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.400 credit though, for keep for the ability to keep playing 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.919 at the end of that football game. So kept playing. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:29.480 Did he he's trying to avoid a penalty, right, I 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.040 thought so? Yeah, I thought so, And he was Jimmy 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.720 Johnson afterwards too. Yeah. I was good to hear that. Yeah, 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:41.760 they thought there was a flag or something, and well, honestly, 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.600 like when the drive started, I thought they were in 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.640 trouble because potentially because they haven't been able to stop 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.200 him through the air the entire game, and a lot 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.000 of grabbing and holding to prevent guys from running free. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.800 And that's eventually what they tried to avoid. Might have 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.960 been a penalty anyway, because he was coming in early. Yeah, Williams, 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.080 if you remember he also they had a third down 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:06.200 play I believe, where he was in position defending the 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.640 tight end along the sidelines and he had his back 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.040 and his hands up and I thought, oh my gosh, 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:12.800 you're gonna get him for not looking for the ball. 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:15.839 You know. Yeah, that's and I'm thinking, well, that could 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.200 have been a call right there, but no, I mean 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:25.160 that's a that's tough stuff happens. Forty three two. Did 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.000 you notice that it was the same number of the 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.359 guy that Drew Pearson beat there for the hill Man. Oh, Nate, right, 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.520 that was forty three. Yeah. Did you hear him come 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.480 out and talk about that? Oh yeah, I was telling them, 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.840 you know, Digs, this touchdown is going to stay with 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.360 you for life. And yeah, it's pretty cool to hear 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.920 him talk about it. Yeah, maybe it'll be immortalized in 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.720 the future Minnesota Vikings. Maybe it gets Drew off the 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:53.280 hook up there. Yeah. Yeah, Mike Zimmer was ten seconds 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.200 away from losing another playoff game at home. You know, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.760 that just shows you what happens and how the trual manner. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.920 The other one was a missfield seven yard field goal. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.080 They were indoors this time. M Zim deserved it. He 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:11.400 deserves something lucky to happen to him after everything he's 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:15.960 been through. His eyes. That's a good point his eye. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.839 You know, family stuff. Sure, you know, even when he 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.240 left here, he didn't want to leave, but his contract 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.520 was up and Bill bagged his feet if he was 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.960 going to stay or not, and he had the opportunity 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.440 to go to Atlanta, and then that guy ups and 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:36.680 leaves after did even finish his first year, left them 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.800 all hanging there. Yeah, at Louisville. The head coach at Louisville, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:44.479 So yeah, it was he's had some tough, tough breaks 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.560 and getting through that eye thing, and we all know 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.600 how stubborn he is, and you know, he didn't want 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.200 to miss the game to have surgery, and they basically 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.599 told him, Okay, go blind, then lose the game or 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.320 lose your eye. What do you what's more important to you? 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.240 And they basically had to strap him down and then 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.839 for him to come back and have something very fortunate 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.480 happened to him. Seven Heaven was the name of the play. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.400 That's what they're calling it. That's no, that's the play. Oh. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.080 When Diggs was interviewed afterwards, they asked him what the 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:16.520 play is and he goes, well, I don't like to 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:20.920 talk about plays and names, but this one was called 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.840 seven Heaven. So it's a seven route. Yeah, yeah, and 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.800 basically Heaven like hope for the best, for the best, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.920 it's probably the same route that Witton ran that time 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.719 and at the Giants, remember when Bill went up there 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.000 and they got the game, kicked the field goal to 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.080 get they ran out though I thought it was an 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.479 out there. This wasn't out, yeah, but it was kind 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.039 of a cross right the left side. This was to 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:48.600 the right side. So Billy Kundiff right, yeah, fifty some 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:53.120 yard field goal. Yeah, so is there time on the clock? 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.120 You better better be careful. Stuff social man. These people 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.440 who were filming themselves at the end of the game, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:01.920 there's this one guy, he's a Saints fan. He's in 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.840 a huge bar. You can tell all Saints fans around him. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.320 And somebody comment and said, you can actually see the 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:11.200 moment his heartbreaks and then there you know, there were 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.719 different ones where they set the play to Titanic music. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.679 It was awesome as he's running into the end zone, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.480 arms wide open, just hilarious. Not as good as Jets 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.760 danced to anything, Brian, but yeah, very club love Jets 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.400 dancing love. That's but you know what they came around, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.320 and we're very compassionate. I thought all the people that 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.120 met the team at the airport afterwards, I saw that 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.640 there was a highway sign on I ten. It said, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:42.880 that's so, that's okay, Marcus, Uh, we love Saints pretty good. Yeah, 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.400 it's nice. And then, okay, did you see what the 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.920 headline was at the time, picky expletive explative. I had 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:55.599 to stacked expletive expletive expletive. Yeah, that's pretty good. I 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.800 had to. I felt like I needed to call my 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.440 dad and I did, and he's okay. I've been a 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.440 fan for fifty years. Sat Yeah, it was. I mean, 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.440 that's tough. He's up there. You know, you gotta worry 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.280 about his heart a little bit. I love the whole 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.200 Vikings hashtag of bring it home because they could. They 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.880 could go to Philly next week and get a win 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.960 and go to the Super Bowl playing in their own 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.440 home stadium. Brian's been talking them up. They got the 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:21.960 best defense in the league. I think it was a 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.400 year early. Should have waited what Minnesota. Yeah, and I 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.080 think last year I was kind of talking them up 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:28.680 as a team I wouldn't want to have to play. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.680 You've been doing it this playoffs. I've been talking up 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.320 the Eagles and I don't know, well AFC NFC title 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.800 games case, Keenum, Blake Bortles, Nick Foles, and Tom Brady. 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.520 What the quarterbacks? You love it? No? What was the schefter? 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.360 I think he had the stat that it's like combined 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.320 playoffs starts for those three guys about equal Brady super 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.880 Bowl title list. Like it's uh, it's there's a disparity. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.440 There's anybody like Jacksonville going up to New England. Yes, 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.600 I love it. You got a great defense in the playoffs, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.560 you got a shot, yeah church Man, Yeah, why not 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.680 get himself a ring? Maybe not say when everybody. Everybody 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:09.240 keeps pointing out the quarterbacks. But what they failed to 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:14.480 point out was the four teams that are left, they 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:19.240 all are ranked in the top five in scoring defense defense. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.160 That's why you get away normally with a quarterback like 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:27.040 Minnesota's first, Jacksonville's second, Philadelphia's fourth, in New England's fifth. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:35.200 So the Cowboys, they were scoring defense in top ten 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:40.600 in defense of the top like the top twelve teams. Uh, 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.240 only two of them. Uh didn't make the play take 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.680 the playoffs. The Chargers in Baltimore. Yeah, if you watch 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.920 the Jacksonville against Pittsburgh, they're in the backfield almost every play. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.480 I mean, just making Ben's life miserable. So it doesn't 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.880 matter whether you're the goat. You know, if they're gonna 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.000 harass Brady like that, they got a shot. Would you 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.960 put Jalen Ramsey on Gronkowski and take your chances with 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.680 everybody else and think that that Boulle and those guys 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.000 can cover up any other problems you have? I mean no, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.360 I'd have to think about that. Who's Who's the one 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.960 weapon you would worry about in this type of a game? Gronkowski, 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.480 I don't think you'd worry about the other guys. I 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:22.400 think you worry some about a Mondola. They miss, they 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.240 miss Edelman, they miss having that extra. Yeah, but he's 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.880 been in space and catching more stuff down the field. Yeah, 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:33.640 the games I've seen, why, well maybe and see I 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.160 think I think Gronkowski, I think that I think Jacksonville 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.520 can match up with these guys pretty if they can 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.680 rush the quarterback the way they've been. But do you 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.480 worry about make them hold the ball? Worry about Belichick 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.320 drawing something up to throw Bortles off? Though? I mean 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.680 this is that, Oh he's gonna make Bortles. He's gonna 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.079 make Bortles have to beat him. Yeah, he's gonna make that. 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.160 They did to the Titans. I mean they were like, Okay, 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.160 your defense is decent, but we're just gonna expose your 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.600 offense all day. Better not get in a forty five 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.920 forty two game with New England. Yeah, I'll see that, 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.040 but gosh, dang ro I mean the guy threw for 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.400 almost five hundred yards in Pittsburgh. I know. I mean 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.920 they got in a shootout game there and came out 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:17.559 of the other end. Where do you think it's harder 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.880 to play Hinesfield or New England? Well, New England playoffs. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.960 But but you know, the Steelers got beat twice this 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.960 year by Jacksonville at home twice. I don't think that's 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.679 happened since been ten twelve years. Maybe I was shocked 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.440 that Pittsburgh couldn't stop their running game. Fournette was running 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.720 all over him till he got hurt, and they worries 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.400 about the same thing. That's where they went and got 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.920 that dead Harrison because I can't set the edge. He's 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.760 pretty good Fournett. Yeah, and you know it wasn't a 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:50.280 lot of big runs. It was that three four z yes. Yeah, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.560 and it just kept pounding away when it should have 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.440 been one or two. Yeah, you're right, that's what I 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.960 thought of. It's like this is Zeke out there and 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.720 they never let him, rarely get to the outside. It 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.760 was all between the time Nate said it best defense 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:08.000 and running game travels. Jacksonville's got that because they got 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.400 a quarterback that won't turn the ball over. Though, Can 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.679 you bring your horn with you to the way game? 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.000 The horn the king? Oh, I don't want the Viking horn. 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.040 Oh that's miserable. I wonder so if they play there, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.520 they're not allowed. They can't allowed to have that in 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.080 the supermow right, they don't even run things like all 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.280 their signing. Yeah, I heard they do. I do her. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.000 I did hear they get to use their facility if 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.360 they play. Oh yeah, okay, they do get to use 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.199 their facility if they play. They don't have to give 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.080 it up like the Minnesota would probably be. The other 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.480 players there was last time. Yeah it was. And they 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.600 they've got a nice I think it's in the Ghirsky Center. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.240 It's what they I hope it's new compared to the 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:49.400 one that the Bills. Oh it practiced in. Yeah, that 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:54.080 was an old like fieldhouse. Yeah, they've updated it. And 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.480 I've told you about how Buffalo was worried about the 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.800 at Southern cal The next year. Well, that year, there 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.640 was a row at the end of offices up on 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.280 the second floor. Sure, and they saw a light come 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.440 on in one of the offices, and they went ballistic. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.200 It was the assistant coach's office for the University of Minnesota. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.040 They went running up there to see who was spying 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.920 on who's doing it? Hey, the playbook got stolen from 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.719 Alabama last week, so you never know. Let's see Jacksonville 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.800 win this game. I really would. So you want Jacksonville Vikings? 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:31.440 Is that what you're calling it? Super Bowl? They're still 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.880 watch though, won't you? Yeah? I will say I think 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.679 I want Jags Eagles. That'd be if they're going to 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.520 get there, they better score more than fifteen points. Okay, 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.680 do it? Defense is nas have a cheese teak? Yeah? Philly. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.240 You know so many people were against cheering for Philly 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.880 this past weekend, saying I could never root for them. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.280 Why not, Brian, I know you're one of them. I 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.560 used to work there too, you did. Oh we have 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.200 footage of it and in the draft. Yeah. Yeah, Well, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.120 let's take our first break. When we come back, we'll 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.040 get into all these coaching craziness and who's going where 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.679 and who's staying so stay with us. That's next. 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We had assumed Bisaccio 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:46.040 would be joining the crew with John Gruden in Oakland, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.800 and that was confirmed when Gruden had his press conference. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.040 And then now you know Pollock, we learned that on Friday, 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.280 I believe Friday was when that was announced that he 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:59.440 would be going up to the Bengals. Yeah, and then 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.240 Paula Xander came down here. And now last night, you know, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.440 we see on Facebook, which is always a handy resource, Eberflus. Yeah, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.360 most likely confirmed to head on up to be the 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.360 DC with a good old Josh McDaniels. So, yeah, at work, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:20.560 Colts Colts, Yeah, Colts Colts. It's craziness around here, coaching craziness. 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.800 But they haven't announced that he got the job yet 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.280 right now, they've they've assume he's got it, though. Yeah, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:29.400 they've told candidates that were attached to the job or 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.880 guys that interviewed that they're going in a different direction. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.320 So they were kind of clearing the decks in case 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.840 those guys need to go get other jobs. They don't. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.200 You don't want to hold somebody up and yeah, without 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.280 them having the opportunity. But it does sound like Matt's 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.280 going to go on, you know, and that's a great 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.920 opportunity for him if he becomes the defensive coordinator with 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.400 the Colts. Good for him. You know, I'm sure there's 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.400 some people out there saying, well, you know, why would 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:54.760 you know, why would you not make a move with 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.600 the guy here and do that, But you know, coach 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.880 is obviously a head coach, and ownership feels comfortable with 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.840 uh with coach Marinelli, So you're not going to make 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.560 a switch there. Got to figure that out, though, you know, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.120 you gotta have some position coaches to h to hire. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.320 It's uh, it's a lot of movement for a staff 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:17.119 that's retaining its head coach and two coordinators. Two coordinators. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.800 I mean, it's it's uh. I made a little list 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.840 before we cut on the air, and it's like, you know, 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.520 six seven positions that are in flux right now. I mean, 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.680 you could just go down the list just one assistant 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.960 coming back? Is that all read us? The list? I 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.919 heard of Gary Brown, Gary Brown, Garry Brown. I had 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.439 heard before he even went to Oakland that they wanted 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.720 him back, absolutely yeah, and that he wanted to be 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.480 here right, had some opportunities dragged their feet, and it 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.480 was like he better watch out for himself. Houston was 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.480 a team that was in as well with him, and 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.680 then I know he got some interest from Penn State, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.920 which is his alma mater. Oh really so yeah, so yeah, 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.080 that was kind of one of those things that, yeah, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.240 you know, they're they're kind of taking their time on 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.239 this the search, which you know we thought that they right. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.399 But Paul Alexander seems to be in the building. Gary 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.920 Brown will they had him in here for his interview 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:12.560 on Wednesday. What's your list? Um? What would okay said? 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.200 Gary Brown, Why would you need to interview Yeah, yeah, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.280 and as of you know, over the weekend, it sounded 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.720 like he wasn't back in a return. Um, you can 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.400 just go down the list. Hey, Wade Wilson at quarterbacks coach, 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.240 we talked about him last week. They've got to replace him, 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:27.960 could be Kellen Moore, could be somebody with a little 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.200 more experience, and maybe Kellen has a role somewhere on 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.679 the staff. We'll have to see. They got to replace 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.440 Derek Dooley at wide receivers coach, tight ends coach Steve 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.000 Loani's retiring. We mentioned Paul Alexander. We can get into 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.880 him a little bit um. And then there's some question 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.320 on the defensive side of the staff. Joe Baker Greg 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:49.080 Jackson reportedly have expiring contracts. There's been reports that you know, 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.600 Baker's not expected to come back, not confirmed by the Cowboys. 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:54.240 And then we talked about Eber Flu So, I mean 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.640 it's you know, it's a long list for Garrett to address. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.359 How much credit would you give Ebert flu for the 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:04.119 development of Anthony Hitchins. I think he was one of 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.720 the guys involved in bringing Anthony Hitchins here on the 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:11.040 workouts and stuff like that. I I like what you know, 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.040 Matt has always had a good relationship with those linebackers. 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.520 I mean talking to Sean Lee about him. I know, Sean, 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.800 He's always shown so positive to begin with. But you know, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.080 I think they really liked Matt. Matt's a tough guy. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.280 We've all watched Matt coach at out in training camp. 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.680 He's very vocal. He's in your face, you know, he's 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.520 he appeared to me and watching him how he worked 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.480 with Rod Marinelli was a little bit of a sounding board, 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:36.760 you know. There was you know when you watched how 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.880 the plays or the defensive calls went in, they went 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.159 through Eberflus to get to the field. So yeah, there 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.440 are a lot of I feel like that that they're 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.760 losing a guy that they they had a lot of 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.600 respect for, you know, to your point, he was he 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.919 got that passing game coordinator title before last season, so 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:56.960 he was involved in kind of that. They're trying to 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.720 shore up the communication between the front seven and the 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.320 secon and Darry and you know, by the end of 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.200 the season, with those young players back there, they did 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.960 a nice job. Yeah, so everybody kind of felt has 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.760 felt like he's been the air apparent for Rod, but 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.000 you know it's looking like maybe it's not heading that way. Well, 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.040 I was thinking maybe they can with Besacchi leaving, they 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.760 can entice him to stay and name him assistant head 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.720 coach and stay at linebacker kind of a in a 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.320 place setting until Rod decides he wants to retire. But 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.800 you know last year he had some feelers too in 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.800 the Frans Cisco Cowboys didn't let him interview, right, So 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.480 you had a feeling with an expiring contract that if 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:40.119 somebody came after him with the same opportunity, that he 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.080 would take it. I'm just and I'm not talking out 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:44.760 of turn here, I don't believe, but you got to 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.240 look at your situation with these coaches and really, what's 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.320 what's ahead for Jason Garrett. This is is an important year 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.639 for Jason Garrett going forward. How does it How do 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.199 you think that impact? It does? Because because coaches, I 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.320 know I'm asking you what you're saying, No, I think 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.879 it does. I think that coaches look at situations and say, okay, 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.440 do I you know coaches that don't have a job 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.879