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Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're.

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Speaker 2: Listening to popping Off. First thing we need to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the TikTok?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Which one?

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're like, hold on?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: The one hold off? The one where Taylor is standing

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Speaker 2: up and she well, there's been two. The first one

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Speaker 2: is her just kind of like doing a dance, but

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Speaker 2: she looks a little sad, and she says coming back

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Speaker 2: into my twenty twenty two self. And then everyone assumed

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Speaker 2: that meant that she and Dakota broke up. But then

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Speaker 2: also there was another TikTok that she posted, watching the

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Speaker 2: scene of her having the baby on the show, and

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Speaker 2: her saying, here's to a new chapter of my life.

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be the most challenging yet most rewarding,

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Speaker 2: and then she also says it's triggering to watch this season, however,

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Speaker 2: I do appreciate seeing my baby being born.

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Speaker 1: So you so your takeaway is that she's not with

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Speaker 1: Dakota anymore from those vague innu windows.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And then all the women are commenting, we got you, Taylor,

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Speaker 2: we love you, we care about you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that doesn't make sense that that's what

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Speaker 1: happened that they broke up, which I actually I hope

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Speaker 1: that they did because I think he's a worm.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's worse than a worm with a mustache. Worse.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's Oh he's awful.

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Speaker 2: He's a booger, eater, disgusting. He can take his one

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Speaker 2: box and get the hell out of there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get your PlayStation.

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Speaker 2: To get out, get your PlayStation, your Rubik's cube and

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Speaker 2: be down. And then he did a TikTok that's like

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Speaker 2: trump and it's like, do you have a plan and

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Speaker 2: he was like uh, he like mouthed. I'm like stop,

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Speaker 2: now you need to stop tiktoking.

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Speaker 1: Enough.

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Speaker 2: Ugh. So we are recapping the secret lives of Mormon Wives.

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Speaker 2: Episode four starts off with the girls driving to Park

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Speaker 2: City for Macy's birthday trip. Yay, park City. Have you

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Speaker 2: been to Park City? I have been to Park City. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Whitney jokes that she and Taylor are going to have

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Speaker 2: a boxing match when they see each other. Everyone's worried

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of tension. The first

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Speaker 2: of the girls arrive at the Giant Pentouse. Many of

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Speaker 2: the girls have frustrations with Whitney because she doesn't take accountability. Then,

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Speaker 2: of course Whitney brought the matching sweatsuits which they have

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Speaker 2: in every color, which I love. We need our own,

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Speaker 2: we do, we.

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Speaker 1: Need matching outfits when we do this podcast. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we should match. We should we at least need

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Speaker 1: to plan color schemes. But they found it to be

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Speaker 1: thoughtful that she did that. And then the girls go

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Speaker 1: in the hot tub for a split.

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Speaker 2: Second, like we just need to change it up and

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Speaker 2: not have you guys fighting in the closet for a minute.

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Speaker 1: So they're like, can you guys pust a bathing suits

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Speaker 1: on and just get in the hot tub.

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Speaker 2: Just real quick. We want to show how all of

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Speaker 2: your extensions hold up after getting wet, So they get

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Speaker 2: in there. Then Jen, voicing her frustrations with Zach. She

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Speaker 2: says she's a sole breadwinner. She provides for her kids,

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Speaker 2: and she's paying for her husband to go to medical school.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's here's my question though, before these moms, because

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Speaker 1: all these moms claim to be the breadwinners, before there

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they weren't getting like college, like I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think Jen's twenty four years old, so twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that basically they went from college to

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Speaker 1: there was no other plan when they got married. That's

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Speaker 1: the part I don't understand, Like how you married these

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Speaker 1: men and like none of them make money. You're the

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Speaker 1: breadwinner by doing stuff on social media.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe the husbands quit their jobs in order to

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Speaker 2: make you know, videos, videos with them on the interwebs.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm going to go to Shane and just

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Speaker 1: suggests that maybe he quits practicing law so that we

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Speaker 2: You know what, It's not a bad job, Like it

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Speaker 2: And fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: For saying fifteen years, She's like, I gotta make videos

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Speaker 3: for fifteen years before there's any income coming from this man,

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Speaker 3: like poor thing, Like at least I don't.

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Speaker 2: Have to dance in mine, And then males are usually

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Speaker 2: for Zach to be so untraditional. Jen Oh shit Jin

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Speaker 2: big deal for strict Mormons. Yeah, so how she's gonna

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Speaker 2: be think she forgot it?

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Speaker 1: Do you think she forgot I think she forgot him

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Speaker 1: on purpose. She doesn't want to wear that well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, garments represent your marriage after going through the temple.

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Speaker 2: It's a daily reminder of your dedication to your partner.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Jin forgot her garments, just like I'm forgetting

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Speaker 1: I just think maybe she did it on purpose because

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Speaker 2: I think she did it maybe on purpose so to

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Speaker 1: But she's scared of him.

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Speaker 2: I feel like she is scared of him. But they

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Speaker 2: kind of have this like she does shit with the

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Speaker 1: Off, and she's okay doing it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But also if I had a husband that was

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Speaker 2: clothing underneath my SWEATSUITO. But then the truth box, we

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Speaker 2: love we love a game.

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Speaker 1: I love a good game. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This was the moment Tom became the mother of mom talk.

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Speaker 2: She's hoping they can all be honest with this and

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Speaker 2: resolve any tension that may exist. No one is enthusiastic

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Speaker 1: I wonder why.

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Speaker 2: I wonder why, because it's about to be some real

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Speaker 2: great questions. They change into their matching sweatsuits and begin

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Speaker 2: reading anonymous questions. Someone asked why Whitney doesn't like Taylor

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Speaker 2: and if she's just jealous of her clout. She says

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Speaker 2: she's jealous of the forgiveness that Taylor received after the scandal,

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Speaker 2: which she never got after her RSV video. This had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean you felt like that came out of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what how is that Taylor's fault? That

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Speaker 1: Okay, but here's the thing. Of course, Taylor was forgiven

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Speaker 2: Like I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like people necessarily had to forgive Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I think they were happy that Taylor gave them that information.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucked it all up.

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Speaker 1: Right, everyone ran with it and it was everywhere. People

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Speaker 1: have a hard time getting past how negligent you look

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Speaker 1: when you're in a nick you dancing with your baby

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, and I don't think that Taylors are that's

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Speaker 2: someone asked Taylor if she leave Dakota if she found

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Speaker 2: out he slept with Jenna after swearing that he didn't.

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Speaker 2: She says yes, with no hesitation. Do we think she

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like that scene right there was foreshadowing

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Speaker 1: all know they're still together, so.

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Speaker 2: No, and we all know that Jenna's been posting on

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Speaker 2: the gramm h. So we found Jenna. She never responded us.

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't know why we have no clout.

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Speaker 1: We got to start making videos or something.

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Speaker 2: Like, what the hell, Jenna, we were going to give

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Speaker 2: you your like two minutes of social media fame is

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Speaker 2: the wrong word.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because because Teddy got fourteen hundred followers in fourteen days,

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Speaker 1: sixteen hundred sorry at least respect Sorry.

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Speaker 2: About that, and uh, DEMI asked if she ever said

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Speaker 2: because they're obviously the ones who told Gin this. Demi

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Speaker 2: big argument. Then Jin brings up the Demi called Taylor

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Speaker 2: white trash, which was to hold to her by Whitney

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Speaker 2: as well, that's.

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Speaker 1: Way better than to Mormon, Like, are you gonna get

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Speaker 1: mad as someone calls you too Mormon? That's like being

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Speaker 1: like you, I mean, is that really an insult? I

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Speaker 1: mean white trash?

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Speaker 2: I mean I call myself WT. Like there's certain things

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have a little white trash. I'm from Ohio,

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Speaker 2: I'm not I wouldn't be offended by it unless it

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Speaker 2: But I think that's the problem. They weren't actually friends.

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Speaker 2: They just are social media people that wanted to get

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Speaker 2: more famous. But Demi said she said this because she

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Speaker 2: saw Taylor flirting with Brett Rudy Pebble's man at a

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Speaker 2: Taylor takes a swing at Demi in return, she claims

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Speaker 2: that Demi took off her dress in front of Dakota

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Speaker 1: She thinks it's trashy. I don't know what, do you

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Speaker 1: think that's the party when she walked out in her bra?

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Speaker 1: Or is this another time?

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Speaker 2: I guess it happened another time, but then we see

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Speaker 2: it later on in the season two. I think this

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do I think there was probably a time where

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Speaker 2: Taylor was tipsy in front of Brett and probably flirting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you're talking about someone that's involved in the

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Speaker 1: for me. To picture her flirting with other men.

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Speaker 2: I also think, you know, if you're pouring cereal into

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Speaker 2: your vagina, you probably don't have much to be jealous

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Speaker 2: of when it comes to other women. Like, if you're

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Speaker 1: You mean you think that she's got her man pretty well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's got it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he's not really looking for other areas.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not Jen, it's not Zach. I didn't sing Zach, No,

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Speaker 2: Matt did. Nobody wants Zack. It's not Zach, it's Bett.

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Speaker 1: It's the hotkey, it's the former.

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Speaker 2: Everyone wants him. Yeah, the hot.

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Speaker 1: Football player eating fruity pebbles, He's the fruit, you know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's my question. Where do you go from fruity pebbles?

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So, like, what's the next step from that? Like, if

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Speaker 1: where do you go after fruity pebbles.

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Speaker 2: Cocoa pebbles, cennamon to this crunch that sounds so painful? Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the fruity pebbles, Like think about how quickly

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Speaker 1: I feel like I need a tutorial video.

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Speaker 2: How to get fruity pebbles in your own prives. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, I'll create one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that'll go viral. You'll get more followers, I promise,

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Speaker 1: Just do it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Edwin, Yeah, breddy pebbles in a funnel real quick.

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Speaker 2: Just come in here, and maybe a razor blade so

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Speaker 1: Just don't ask questions, just go along with it.

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Speaker 2: Then Whitney asked who her least favorite in the group

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Speaker 2: The game finally ins, thank God, and Whitney's talking to

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Speaker 2: Macy upstairs. She's actually mad at Macy now for not

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Speaker 2: like at this point Whitney could punch somebody in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every goal time.

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Speaker 2: But we get through it somehow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you a question. Do you think

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Speaker 1: I think a producer just handed in the box and said, here,

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Speaker 2: Like, I think they knew the questions. I think they

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Speaker 2: use words like cloud. I don't think producers would really Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but maybe who knows, it could have been producers who

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Speaker 2: But then the next morning, the girls get ready to

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Speaker 2: after work, we can have a real conversation, right.

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Speaker 1: But get we gotta get this nailed. We first, first

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Speaker 1: and then at your get your lip syncing down, do

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Speaker 2: That's not right again again. Whitney's obviously nervous, and she

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Speaker 2: asked Taylor not to punch her. Oh it's Jeff Jenkins productions. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I think we know who that person is. We know

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Speaker 2: swinging scandal, but it wasn't reciprocated Whitney's I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: like Taylor had some shit she had to deal with.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing over that.

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Speaker 2: And then she hasn't received the same hype as Taylor,

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Speaker 2: so she's comparing. Whitney told me that the purpose behind

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Speaker 2: making the RSV video was for sympathy, lights and clout.

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Speaker 2: Whitney admitted this to her after she and Deme did

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Speaker 2: ketamine together for therapy purposes.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, is it like a true serum?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I had we do it together? Do

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Speaker 2: we do a ketamine pod. We should do a.

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Speaker 1: Kenmine pod and see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Ketamine is used to cure anxiety and depression, so maybe

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Speaker 1: I feel like it could be a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Can we just I mean, I want to point out

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Speaker 2: reference to this. These women got famous by doing dances

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Speaker 2: on TikTok. Yes, Like, what is the world we live

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Speaker 1: It's like the huck to a girl. That girl's got

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Speaker 2: I don't know she now she has her own podcast

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Speaker 2: Talk two. Something I saw her on like late night shows,

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Speaker 2: Red Green Tomato. She thought, that's how the New York

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Speaker 2: to me. Decides to join the conver between Whitney and

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Speaker 2: obviously not telling the full truth. Whitney doesn't feel like

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Speaker 2: Taylor cares about her, but she doesn't want things to change,

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Speaker 2: She'd rather just leave them as they are.

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Speaker 1: Not a mature take on that.

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Speaker 2: But Whitney saying she doesn't care enough to remedy things

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Speaker 2: Then to me tells Whitney that she's a shitty friend.

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Speaker 2: Whitney like really does run away from every situation. Then

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Speaker 2: Whitney's sobbing in the closet, A few girls go to

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Speaker 1: Don't you hate it when someone causes problems and gaslights

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she's late to the dinner, and then

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Speaker 2: the cake. It's like Whitney you're exhausting. But Demi wasn't

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't good timing. I don't think she

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Speaker 2: talks about everyone behind their backs. Whitney doesn't know what's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody else is right and everyone else is right.

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Speaker 2: It's really very simple.

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Speaker 1: It's very black and white at this point.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. Now come on the pod and we'll give

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Speaker 2: you more of our opinions. Hot takes. Now, Whitney's sobbing

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Speaker 2: Everyone arrives to Macy's birthday dinner. All the girls managed

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Speaker 1: But then she came out with the cake. She here,

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Speaker 2: Cameraman can't forget to show the piece of paper on

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Speaker 1: I love cameraman, They're the best.

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Speaker 2: And then Whitney says she just doesn't know if these

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Speaker 2: a part of it. I'm like, I thought you were

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Speaker 2: the leader of mom talk. Don't you set the tone?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, she's constantly saying she wants to be the

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Speaker 2: She makes no sense. Make it make sense, Whitney, come

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Speaker 2: on and talk to us about it. Come on, come on,

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Speaker 2: come on in. But we will keep on watching, we'll

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Speaker 2: keep on researching, we'll keep on searching our TikTok scrounging

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Speaker 2: for information so that we have any hot deeds to share.

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Speaker 1: Right, And if any of you guys out there have information,

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Speaker 1: because I have people DM me and they send me stuff.

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Speaker 1: I love it. So if you have any information, please

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Speaker 2: Oh and I think her name was Andrea that sent

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Speaker 2: me the picture of all the different haircuts and styles

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Speaker 2: that Whitney's husband has had. I appreciate that it was.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right, Thanks guys for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: Thanks as Jack children,