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Speaker 2: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: That was some game that we saw. They almost pulled

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Speaker 5: Think you will like it too, because there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of really unnecessary shots at me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think it's not totally unnecessary, but

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Speaker 4: One of the rare press boxes where we were in

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Speaker 7: Kind of apart from the external media too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they decided to keep Evan away from the rest

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Speaker 4: of the media. That checks out.

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Speaker 7: I'm not one hundred percent sure that everybody knew it

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Speaker 5: I love when Evan has those little stories about film

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Speaker 4: It makes me I don't feel bad that.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, That's why I said, Mike's not wrong to not

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Speaker 7: I don't necessarily have faith. I just have no choice.

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Speaker 5: Like three guys on the tea box and I have

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Speaker 5: like a PVD baseball show and Oh Peeby. We used

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Speaker 5: to coach UMass Roll football. We had a great kid

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Speaker 5: from Heavy John Shanna, I go great center put it

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Speaker 5: right there every time he started laughing.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Is Wednesday here at

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Speaker 4: Jillette Stadium. We're getting ready for the Chicago Bears. Gerard

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Speaker 4: Mayo had his Wednesday press conference where he turns the

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Speaker 4: page to the opponent, changes the page and you know,

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Speaker 4: no surprise. But he was very complimentary about Caleb Williams

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Speaker 4: and his ability to extend plays and his athletic ability

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Speaker 4: and all that, and said it'll be quite a challenge

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Speaker 4: for them. And I'm sure it will.

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Speaker 5: Be absolutely a lot of different things. Chicago has this

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Speaker 5: that's on the field. Off the field, I think Chicago's

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a mess. Yeah, yeah, that that

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Speaker 5: Hail Mary has left a mark.

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Speaker 5: I think there's questions about the coach, Ibra Flus. I

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Speaker 4: Huh. Okay, yeah, I know that one of your shows

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Speaker 4: they were talking about is Ebra Flues on the Hot Seat.

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Speaker 4: He's been somewhat critical of of well, not not necessarily critical,

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Speaker 5: You know. It's sort of like sometimes it's what you

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Speaker 5: I think Williams has a lot of ability. You know that.

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Speaker 5: And that's the difference between right now him and May.

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Speaker 5: The difference is they have three three you know, Dj Moore,

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Speaker 5: So I would say that core of offensive options is

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Speaker 4: how do you think we match up defensively against them?

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Speaker 5: Or I would worry about Swift? Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and now that's an area of Chicago struggles. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yep okay, and then trade deadline is over, Patriots made

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Speaker 5: Well, they they sent out one of those linemen, uh

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Speaker 4: A guard Monty Rice. They signed linebacker. Yeah, that's They

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Speaker 5: No, I think they released him off the practice squad.

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Speaker 5: No, he's a guy they signed off for someone else.

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Speaker 4: So what do you what do you think they'll go

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Speaker 5: I think that all those things, I would definitely have

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Speaker 5: Just I'm trying to remember everything. So we heard from Hunter, Henry,

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Speaker 4: Than sure they went over that tape already. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: And it's exactly right. It's like a it's riding on

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Speaker 4: You try not to repeat your errors. So so so

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Speaker 5: Why is Patriot Nation nervous?

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Speaker 4: They're nervous because the team seems to have taken a

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Speaker 5: Okay, I think the last part of that is a

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Speaker 4: From last year? I do on defense, and I know,

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Speaker 5: See. Like I said, I'm not going to bog the

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's much different. I really don't like.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm talking about like the real standout players.

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Speaker 4: But you know, they just, you know, just they except

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Speaker 5: Well, what's the top of the league, eleventh, It's a

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Speaker 5: Gardner minshew, they only allowed ten like you didn't see, Like, No,

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Speaker 5: the run defense of the run defense is absolutely valid.

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Speaker 4: Valid, you know. So I look at things like that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that it's it's absolutely fair to

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Speaker 5: go back to the Giants game. So they play the Giants,

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Speaker 4: And the other thing I think people are just you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a lot of questions about that. Today,

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Speaker 5: That's when you know a guy is fighting it mentally

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Speaker 4: But they're they're looking at him, they're looking at the

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Speaker 5: So I'll tell you what they're looking at too, is

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Speaker 5: They I think personally they tried to move up to

435
00:21:59,674 --> 00:22:03,553
Speaker 5: get Lee get and you know, they weren't able to

436
00:22:03,553 --> 00:22:07,593
Speaker 5: pull it off, so then they moved down. So in

437
00:22:07,674 --> 00:22:10,313
Speaker 5: moving down, the one guy that they passed on is

438
00:22:10,353 --> 00:22:13,873
Speaker 5: your guy McConkie, Ladd McConkie, who's been okay. He's I

439
00:22:13,954 --> 00:22:16,033
Speaker 5: think he's got like four hundred and fifty yards or so,

440
00:22:16,634 --> 00:22:18,394
Speaker 5: you know in his rookie year, So it gets open.

441
00:22:18,474 --> 00:22:21,113
Speaker 5: That's pretty good production, you know. And he's playing for

442
00:22:21,154 --> 00:22:22,913
Speaker 5: a good team too. It's not like he's putting up

443
00:22:23,154 --> 00:22:25,674
Speaker 5: plastic yards. I mean the Chargers are playing in pretty

444
00:22:25,674 --> 00:22:27,434
Speaker 5: well well.

445
00:22:28,114 --> 00:22:33,154
Speaker 4: So that has Patriot's Nation nervous. Is the rebuild seems

446
00:22:33,234 --> 00:22:36,434
Speaker 4: other than May there wasn't a lot of building.

447
00:22:36,273 --> 00:22:38,793
Speaker 5: And that's not enough, Like I understand, like the quarterback

448
00:22:38,874 --> 00:22:39,394
Speaker 5: is the only thing.

449
00:22:39,553 --> 00:22:42,234
Speaker 4: Like you, if.

450
00:22:42,073 --> 00:22:44,553
Speaker 5: You asked me to decide, if I had to pick,

451
00:22:45,073 --> 00:22:47,273
Speaker 5: it's a good pu topic. If you had to pick,

452
00:22:48,353 --> 00:22:51,393
Speaker 5: you get a really good draft class. Polk and Baker

453
00:22:51,434 --> 00:22:54,074
Speaker 5: are good, Wallace and Robinson are good, like these are

454
00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:58,593
Speaker 5: really good players, but May's a bust or May's a

455
00:22:58,593 --> 00:23:00,833
Speaker 5: really good player, and you don't get much from the rest.

456
00:23:00,914 --> 00:23:05,113
Speaker 4: Of course, I take May, would you he's the quarterback? Yeah?

457
00:23:06,273 --> 00:23:08,593
Speaker 5: For me, it's easy. And I think people might argue

458
00:23:08,634 --> 00:23:09,154
Speaker 5: with you on that.

459
00:23:09,273 --> 00:23:12,234
Speaker 4: But why can't I Why can't I have May and

460
00:23:12,313 --> 00:23:17,273
Speaker 4: one or two others? You know what I mean? Like that? No,

461
00:23:17,353 --> 00:23:20,113
Speaker 4: but to me, it's not a dilemma. You know, you

462
00:23:20,234 --> 00:23:22,033
Speaker 4: got May great.

463
00:23:22,754 --> 00:23:25,154
Speaker 5: Now you need to have a couple of those guys

464
00:23:25,273 --> 00:23:27,313
Speaker 5: lablished themselves as stars.

465
00:23:27,394 --> 00:23:30,513
Speaker 4: It should be less difficult to pick guys at other

466
00:23:30,553 --> 00:23:35,313
Speaker 4: positions than the quarterback and be successful. You know.

467
00:23:35,754 --> 00:23:38,513
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think I think there's a good

468
00:23:38,874 --> 00:23:41,674
Speaker 5: study that could be done on that. I would push back.

469
00:23:41,714 --> 00:23:43,833
Speaker 5: I think there's plenty of misses at all positions.

470
00:23:44,954 --> 00:23:48,154
Speaker 4: Well that's why. But but when you're missing quarterback, there's

471
00:23:48,154 --> 00:23:50,073
Speaker 4: only one of them and now you have to.

472
00:23:50,234 --> 00:23:54,273
Speaker 5: Right and it's and it's a glaring thing. You could

473
00:23:54,353 --> 00:24:00,513
Speaker 5: say that when when the quarterback misses and a tackle misses,

474
00:24:02,033 --> 00:24:03,754
Speaker 5: you know, it's pretty you know, it can be pretty

475
00:24:03,754 --> 00:24:06,514
Speaker 5: obvious both ways. But who do you think people remember?

476
00:24:06,793 --> 00:24:10,873
Speaker 4: Right? You know, the quarterback all right, let's get to

477
00:24:10,914 --> 00:24:15,354
Speaker 4: the tpx hutline. We'll start with Eldred in North Carolina.

478
00:24:15,394 --> 00:24:24,114
Speaker 4: What's up Eldred heyd Hey in Nashville. I was with

479
00:24:24,434 --> 00:24:26,714
Speaker 4: Trey in Melvin and they were like, oh, we gotta

480
00:24:26,754 --> 00:24:27,874
Speaker 4: meet Aldred.

481
00:24:29,754 --> 00:24:32,474
Speaker 10: Melvin, me and mend But I like to meet Trey

482
00:24:34,234 --> 00:24:34,714
Speaker 10: y'all too.

483
00:24:34,954 --> 00:24:36,073
Speaker 11: I would like to do that also.

484
00:24:36,194 --> 00:24:38,113
Speaker 4: Yeah, Trey was saying, I gotta meet up. I gotta

485
00:24:38,154 --> 00:24:38,793
Speaker 4: meet Aldred.

486
00:24:38,994 --> 00:24:41,234
Speaker 5: You were missed, biggie. They were missing you. They wanted

487
00:24:41,273 --> 00:24:41,633
Speaker 5: to see you.

488
00:24:42,914 --> 00:24:43,074
Speaker 4: Yeah.

489
00:24:43,114 --> 00:24:44,793
Speaker 10: I wish I could have made it there, but I

490
00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:47,714
Speaker 10: don't know. But what my end is, I can't get

491
00:24:47,754 --> 00:24:52,234
Speaker 10: to Nashville if I take the long way around. Yeah, okay, well,

492
00:24:52,273 --> 00:24:55,714
Speaker 10: because forty forty is still knocked off from that hurricane

493
00:24:56,234 --> 00:24:58,474
Speaker 10: without twenty six going.

494
00:24:57,874 --> 00:25:00,593
Speaker 4: To Tennessee and you're a banded most of the other roads.

495
00:25:00,634 --> 00:25:03,234
Speaker 4: So that's you know, right, too much honky in of

496
00:25:03,313 --> 00:25:05,714
Speaker 4: the horn, right, yeah, too much radio listening.

497
00:25:06,114 --> 00:25:11,674
Speaker 10: But Fred, I agree agree the rest of past nations.

498
00:25:11,994 --> 00:25:14,154
Speaker 10: I don't trust people in the front offs to rebuild

499
00:25:14,793 --> 00:25:17,873
Speaker 10: because two of those guys being with the other regimes,

500
00:25:17,914 --> 00:25:20,594
Speaker 10: and to me, like I said during the draft, besides

501
00:25:20,714 --> 00:25:23,553
Speaker 10: Mate and Paul. You know I didn't want that pig either,

502
00:25:23,914 --> 00:25:27,113
Speaker 10: but I also say, if you show, I'll come around.

503
00:25:27,434 --> 00:25:28,194
Speaker 10: I'm coming around.

504
00:25:28,234 --> 00:25:30,793
Speaker 5: You did, and you're being fair about it. Absolutely. I

505
00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:33,434
Speaker 5: remember you saying that, Yes, if I.

506
00:25:33,394 --> 00:25:36,434
Speaker 10: Wanted a d Mitchell or if we couldn't get him

507
00:25:36,553 --> 00:25:40,113
Speaker 10: or somebody like you know, but I can't understand why

508
00:25:40,353 --> 00:25:43,754
Speaker 10: I see people through make some moves, you know, Bith Brown,

509
00:25:43,874 --> 00:25:48,114
Speaker 10: fourth rown, popping forth from field, retell me Elliott Wolf

510
00:25:48,114 --> 00:25:52,353
Speaker 10: couldn't find a certable tackle, not a started tackle, but someone,

511
00:25:52,434 --> 00:25:54,954
Speaker 10: you know, better than what we got for at least

512
00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:57,193
Speaker 10: a third, fourth round or fifth crown pick. You know.

513
00:25:57,634 --> 00:26:00,793
Speaker 10: You gotta be somebody somewhere on the online that's like that.

514
00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:04,313
Speaker 10: And I think that jackson be gone, Well, not that

515
00:26:04,394 --> 00:26:08,434
Speaker 10: Jacksonville guy, but the Minnesota guy says Darius gone. You know,

516
00:26:08,634 --> 00:26:10,994
Speaker 10: I think they got another one. That young guy's still there,

517
00:26:12,073 --> 00:26:14,914
Speaker 10: and I know he's work in progress, but he's got

518
00:26:14,914 --> 00:26:16,674
Speaker 10: to be better than what we got because they picked

519
00:26:16,714 --> 00:26:18,994
Speaker 10: him in the second or third round. Gotta be.

520
00:26:19,394 --> 00:26:19,594
Speaker 4: Yeah.

521
00:26:20,114 --> 00:26:23,793
Speaker 10: But I'm like past Nation, man, I'm a little nervous too, okay,

522
00:26:23,793 --> 00:26:27,553
Speaker 10: because Wolf supposed to go like a pack of wide

523
00:26:27,553 --> 00:26:30,713
Speaker 10: receivers but I ain't never seen pack with wide receiver

524
00:26:30,994 --> 00:26:35,833
Speaker 10: beside six two and float. Besides, those are just somewhere

525
00:26:35,833 --> 00:26:38,314
Speaker 10: else now anybody else. They can block, they can run,

526
00:26:38,353 --> 00:26:41,593
Speaker 10: they get over, they got speed, and I never so

527
00:26:42,234 --> 00:26:45,474
Speaker 10: you know, if he took the pack of way pick

528
00:26:45,593 --> 00:26:49,033
Speaker 10: these two guys. And I didn't like Folk anyway. If

529
00:26:49,033 --> 00:26:50,833
Speaker 10: he's down, hope for a Tuesday. But I know we

530
00:26:50,874 --> 00:26:53,313
Speaker 10: were gonna get him, and I'll let you go from them.

531
00:26:53,394 --> 00:26:55,234
Speaker 4: You'll have a good one, all right, thanks, Eldred.

532
00:26:55,353 --> 00:26:56,954
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a lot of the stuff that Aldi

533
00:26:57,073 --> 00:26:59,633
Speaker 5: Jeff said. I do remember him talking about like he

534
00:26:59,674 --> 00:27:02,674
Speaker 5: didn't he wasn't a huge may guy, but he did say,

535
00:27:02,754 --> 00:27:05,593
Speaker 5: you know, listen, if if he comes in he plays, well,

536
00:27:05,353 --> 00:27:08,593
Speaker 5: I'll i'll, I'll jump on board. And he did not

537
00:27:08,833 --> 00:27:12,033
Speaker 5: like the selection of Polk when they made it. So

538
00:27:12,634 --> 00:27:15,314
Speaker 5: and you know, like I said, the jury's still out.

539
00:27:15,754 --> 00:27:18,674
Speaker 4: And he mentioned something we talked about yesterday that this

540
00:27:18,914 --> 00:27:21,953
Speaker 4: front office regime was there when Bill was there. Uh

541
00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:25,633
Speaker 4: so are we getting more of the same? And the

542
00:27:25,714 --> 00:27:28,273
Speaker 4: question we raised and we don't know the answer to it,

543
00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:31,313
Speaker 4: is what say did they have during that regime? And

544
00:27:31,674 --> 00:27:36,513
Speaker 4: are they now? You know, obviously they have the ability

545
00:27:36,553 --> 00:27:40,354
Speaker 4: to now make those decisions. But it's the mindset different

546
00:27:40,634 --> 00:27:43,273
Speaker 4: right now than it used to be. And right now

547
00:27:43,313 --> 00:27:46,393
Speaker 4: the results are maze good and everybody else is not.

548
00:27:46,674 --> 00:27:50,673
Speaker 4: So it's still it's still I am not on the

549
00:27:50,833 --> 00:27:54,313
Speaker 4: let's fire everybody bandwagon, which I've heard, I've heard clear

550
00:27:54,313 --> 00:27:55,234
Speaker 4: out the front office.

551
00:27:56,754 --> 00:28:00,194
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not on that either. I have my reservations,

552
00:28:00,234 --> 00:28:02,833
Speaker 5: just like you said, like with some people you know

553
00:28:02,954 --> 00:28:05,513
Speaker 5: or not are unsure. But I feel like that's a

554
00:28:05,553 --> 00:28:08,154
Speaker 5: bad cycle to get on. Yeah, like we're going.

555
00:28:08,154 --> 00:28:09,874
Speaker 4: To hire me now, you're the team that you make

556
00:28:09,914 --> 00:28:10,234
Speaker 4: fun of.

557
00:28:10,313 --> 00:28:12,154
Speaker 5: We're going to hire people and we're going to cycle

558
00:28:12,194 --> 00:28:15,754
Speaker 5: through them in one year. Now, there's a fine line

559
00:28:15,793 --> 00:28:17,834
Speaker 5: because if you decide, if you get to a point

560
00:28:17,833 --> 00:28:20,074
Speaker 5: where you're like, this isn't the guy, then you need

561
00:28:20,114 --> 00:28:22,394
Speaker 5: to be aggressive and pull the trigger. I just don't.

562
00:28:22,833 --> 00:28:24,273
Speaker 5: I just don't think they we're there yet.

563
00:28:24,474 --> 00:28:26,114
Speaker 4: No, we're not there yet.

564
00:28:26,194 --> 00:28:28,673
Speaker 5: Yeah, And to me, it would be more about some

565
00:28:28,754 --> 00:28:31,954
Speaker 5: of the stuff that you see off the field, sort

566
00:28:31,954 --> 00:28:35,153
Speaker 5: of a lack of organization, a lack of direction. And

567
00:28:35,194 --> 00:28:37,353
Speaker 5: I'm not telling you everything has been perfect in that regard.

568
00:28:37,394 --> 00:28:39,834
Speaker 5: You know, we talked about the overtime taking into the wind.

569
00:28:40,594 --> 00:28:42,714
Speaker 5: So I'm not telling you everything has been buttoned down,

570
00:28:42,754 --> 00:28:48,673
Speaker 5: you know, perfect, But I haven't seen, you know, the

571
00:28:48,794 --> 00:28:51,674
Speaker 5: kind of insubordination that you see sometimes. I think, like

572
00:28:51,674 --> 00:28:53,514
Speaker 5: I said, I think she's seen some signs of that.

573
00:28:53,594 --> 00:28:57,514
Speaker 4: In Chicago, Jerrod kind of had an admission of bad

574
00:28:57,594 --> 00:29:00,714
Speaker 4: mistakes while at the same time saying, I'm the one

575
00:29:00,754 --> 00:29:04,274
Speaker 4: that has to make the decision, and you know, you

576
00:29:04,314 --> 00:29:07,354
Speaker 4: don't have to agree with it. But he did mention today,

577
00:29:08,194 --> 00:29:11,994
Speaker 4: you know, first time, you know, I feel I need

578
00:29:12,034 --> 00:29:16,554
Speaker 4: to get better in you know, uh, situational decisions, and

579
00:29:16,594 --> 00:29:19,194
Speaker 4: as I see more, I'm you know, I'm going to

580
00:29:19,274 --> 00:29:21,994
Speaker 4: get better. So that was without saying it.

581
00:29:22,034 --> 00:29:24,393
Speaker 5: Maybe that was a really good question. I think it was.

582
00:29:24,434 --> 00:29:24,994
Speaker 5: Andrew Callen.

583
00:29:25,434 --> 00:29:26,754
Speaker 4: It might have been a mission. I don't know if

584
00:29:26,754 --> 00:29:31,034
Speaker 4: we're in particular to that wind decision, but maybe that

585
00:29:31,154 --> 00:29:33,074
Speaker 4: was on his mind as well, because I'm sure he's

586
00:29:33,114 --> 00:29:37,034
Speaker 4: doing self scouting as well. Yeah, and knows that I

587
00:29:37,034 --> 00:29:37,474
Speaker 4: can be back.

588
00:29:37,514 --> 00:29:41,674
Speaker 5: I'd be curious to see how that decision was made. Yeah,

589
00:29:41,874 --> 00:29:45,034
Speaker 5: is there someone that you know is in charge of

590
00:29:45,874 --> 00:29:47,594
Speaker 5: you know, Okay, so the wind, the wind is going

591
00:29:47,634 --> 00:29:50,433
Speaker 5: this way. Hey, the wind patterns have changed or whatever.

592
00:29:50,554 --> 00:29:51,714
Speaker 5: Is there someone in charge of.

593
00:29:51,634 --> 00:29:54,274
Speaker 4: That but see or is it just I don't know

594
00:29:54,314 --> 00:29:56,314
Speaker 4: what he was talking about, because the wind pattern did

595
00:29:56,354 --> 00:29:57,594
Speaker 4: not change.

596
00:29:57,834 --> 00:29:59,994
Speaker 5: But I have had people tell me on the field

597
00:30:00,034 --> 00:30:02,074
Speaker 5: that there wasn't much wind. I've had people in the

598
00:30:02,114 --> 00:30:04,434
Speaker 5: press boxes that there was a significant wind. It was,

599
00:30:04,834 --> 00:30:06,914
Speaker 5: you know, like ten miles an hour like I'm sure.

600
00:30:06,834 --> 00:30:11,393
Speaker 4: Like it came and went. But I was you know, again,

601
00:30:11,874 --> 00:30:13,633
Speaker 4: I wrote it down in the blog, so I have

602
00:30:13,754 --> 00:30:16,113
Speaker 4: record of it. I'm not this is in hindsight. I

603
00:30:16,274 --> 00:30:19,474
Speaker 4: noticed a very stiff wind going from left to right

604
00:30:19,554 --> 00:30:21,954
Speaker 4: as you look at the Patriots bench. Then I looked

605
00:30:22,034 --> 00:30:25,554
Speaker 4: up and saw the flag, which verified that. I made

606
00:30:25,634 --> 00:30:28,794
Speaker 4: note of that, you know. And and then later on

607
00:30:29,034 --> 00:30:31,594
Speaker 4: I did not see that flag ever go down, ever

608
00:30:31,634 --> 00:30:32,154
Speaker 4: go limp.

609
00:30:32,874 --> 00:30:34,274
Speaker 5: So you don't want the flag.

610
00:30:34,594 --> 00:30:38,274
Speaker 4: We don't want the flag to go limp. No, so

611
00:30:39,274 --> 00:30:40,994
Speaker 4: and then he said that after the game, and I

612
00:30:41,034 --> 00:30:44,554
Speaker 4: was like, hmm, that's that's doesn't sound right to me.

613
00:30:44,714 --> 00:30:47,794
Speaker 5: So I and I do. I. You know, I gave

614
00:30:47,834 --> 00:30:49,433
Speaker 5: a lot of praise to Drake May for how he

615
00:30:49,474 --> 00:30:53,474
Speaker 5: handles himself. I think that was a very minor but

616
00:30:53,594 --> 00:30:56,873
Speaker 5: maybe the first and only example of a misstep for

617
00:30:56,994 --> 00:31:00,554
Speaker 5: him talking about that throw into the wind, because I

618
00:31:00,554 --> 00:31:02,074
Speaker 5: don't think that would have been a huge topic of

619
00:31:02,154 --> 00:31:05,393
Speaker 5: conversation had he not said that. Do you do you

620
00:31:05,394 --> 00:31:06,873
Speaker 5: think people would have gonna be saying, what are they

621
00:31:06,914 --> 00:31:09,433
Speaker 5: doing that? Like the broadcast didn't mention it.

622
00:31:09,474 --> 00:31:14,794
Speaker 4: You're right, you're right, and that's radar, And yes it did.

623
00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:17,034
Speaker 4: You're right, you're absolutely right. He said it right after

624
00:31:17,074 --> 00:31:21,394
Speaker 4: the game, and you know, seeing it live, I didn't

625
00:31:21,434 --> 00:31:23,433
Speaker 4: know that. It didn't seem to me like that was

626
00:31:23,474 --> 00:31:26,274
Speaker 4: a wind affected throw. It seemed to me like I'm

627
00:31:26,274 --> 00:31:26,954
Speaker 4: not sure it was.

628
00:31:26,994 --> 00:31:27,794
Speaker 5: But that's not the point.

629
00:31:27,834 --> 00:31:31,954
Speaker 4: No, no, no, but just looking at it, it didn't

630
00:31:31,994 --> 00:31:34,154
Speaker 4: seem that way. It just seemed like he didn't see

631
00:31:34,154 --> 00:31:35,514
Speaker 4: the center fielder. You know.

632
00:31:35,954 --> 00:31:38,114
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's how I saw it. I know, Evan said,

633
00:31:38,114 --> 00:31:39,794
Speaker 5: he felt said.

634
00:31:39,594 --> 00:31:43,554
Speaker 4: That I believe it. I believe in his mind that

635
00:31:43,594 --> 00:31:44,594
Speaker 4: ball was affected.

636
00:31:44,754 --> 00:31:50,194
Speaker 5: No, but my point is, when you're the quarterback hits you,

637
00:31:50,674 --> 00:31:52,474
Speaker 5: it's on you. And then I think.

638
00:31:52,314 --> 00:31:56,074
Speaker 4: He he said it was a bad decision the next day. No, no, no,

639
00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:58,473
Speaker 4: he said right after the game, he said that was

640
00:31:58,554 --> 00:32:00,114
Speaker 4: that was a bad decision.

641
00:32:00,034 --> 00:32:01,594
Speaker 5: Me because of throwing into the wind.

642
00:32:01,634 --> 00:32:02,153
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know.

643
00:32:02,194 --> 00:32:04,274
Speaker 5: Whatever he said, he didn't put enough on it into

644
00:32:04,274 --> 00:32:04,913
Speaker 5: the winds.

645
00:32:05,714 --> 00:32:07,754
Speaker 4: But he said it was a bad decision.

646
00:32:07,914 --> 00:32:11,674
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he really backtracked the following day, saying

647
00:32:11,714 --> 00:32:13,234
Speaker 5: the wind didn't have anything to do with that. It

648
00:32:13,274 --> 00:32:15,514
Speaker 5: was a bad play by me. But you know, I'm paraphrasing,

649
00:32:16,034 --> 00:32:20,634
Speaker 5: but I did like that he did that the day after.

650
00:32:20,754 --> 00:32:27,314
Speaker 5: But just going back, you know, it's it can come

651
00:32:27,354 --> 00:32:29,954
Speaker 5: off as excuse making. I don't take it that way.

652
00:32:29,994 --> 00:32:32,434
Speaker 4: How do we know that the next day he wasn't

653
00:32:32,434 --> 00:32:35,274
Speaker 4: talked to about you know, it was the coach's decision

654
00:32:35,314 --> 00:32:38,194
Speaker 4: to go that way. You're you're undermining your coach by saying.

655
00:32:37,954 --> 00:32:39,674
Speaker 5: That, Oh, that would be that would be my guest.

656
00:32:39,794 --> 00:32:44,994
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think that because you know, one of

657
00:32:45,034 --> 00:32:47,754
Speaker 4: the great things about talking to players right after the

658
00:32:47,794 --> 00:32:51,393
Speaker 4: game is you get what they're really thinking sometimes. And

659
00:32:51,834 --> 00:32:54,314
Speaker 4: I think he really did think that the wind affected

660
00:32:54,354 --> 00:32:54,714
Speaker 4: that throw.

661
00:32:55,034 --> 00:32:58,354
Speaker 5: Oh I'm sure he did. Yeah, but don't you think

662
00:32:58,394 --> 00:33:01,554
Speaker 5: that's an excuse Even if it did affect the throw,

663
00:33:01,594 --> 00:33:03,114
Speaker 5: it's it's an excuse, right.

664
00:33:03,314 --> 00:33:06,234
Speaker 4: Well, but he said it was. But he followed that

665
00:33:06,314 --> 00:33:08,234
Speaker 4: up with saying it was a bad decision by me

666
00:33:08,674 --> 00:33:12,873
Speaker 4: right to throw that throw because of the wind, like

667
00:33:12,954 --> 00:33:13,954
Speaker 4: I should have known better.

668
00:33:14,114 --> 00:33:16,754
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's an excuse. I think that's bad.

669
00:33:17,514 --> 00:33:20,834
Speaker 5: Like I think that. I think that's an Aaron Rodgers

670
00:33:20,914 --> 00:33:24,514
Speaker 5: like response. Now, Aaron Rodgers has twenty years of blaming

671
00:33:24,514 --> 00:33:27,274
Speaker 5: other people and the things and other factors. This is

672
00:33:27,354 --> 00:33:30,594
Speaker 5: like a half of minor one little thing by Drake

673
00:33:30,674 --> 00:33:32,234
Speaker 5: May that I'm completely ignoring.

674
00:33:32,314 --> 00:33:33,474
Speaker 4: I don't know. I kind of look at it. I

675
00:33:33,874 --> 00:33:36,514
Speaker 4: knew the wind was against me. That was a bad decision.

676
00:33:37,274 --> 00:33:37,673
Speaker 4: I don't know.

677
00:33:40,354 --> 00:33:43,954
Speaker 5: But so it's not a bad decision you threw into

678
00:33:43,954 --> 00:33:46,113
Speaker 5: double coverage. It's bad decision you threw into double coverage

679
00:33:46,114 --> 00:33:49,234
Speaker 5: into the window. That's kind of like my point, like, yeah,

680
00:33:49,274 --> 00:33:50,834
Speaker 5: he might God have gotten it there if it wasn't

681
00:33:50,834 --> 00:33:54,954
Speaker 5: for the wind. Right, Okay, like it now again.

682
00:33:55,794 --> 00:33:57,433
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it was a

683
00:33:57,434 --> 00:33:59,474
Speaker 4: bad decision to go that direction.

684
00:33:59,194 --> 00:33:59,834
Speaker 6: On the toss.

685
00:34:00,074 --> 00:34:03,873
Speaker 5: Correct, That's what it comes down. And I just wonder

686
00:34:04,154 --> 00:34:06,634
Speaker 5: back to square one here, I just wonder what went

687
00:34:06,674 --> 00:34:09,794
Speaker 5: into the process. Did did Girod just say like at

688
00:34:09,834 --> 00:34:13,314
Speaker 5: one o'clock the wind is going this way, and we're

689
00:34:13,354 --> 00:34:16,234
Speaker 5: going to do this and then at four point fifteen,

690
00:34:16,314 --> 00:34:19,994
Speaker 5: he just said, well, you know whatever we already determined

691
00:34:20,034 --> 00:34:22,513
Speaker 5: at one o'clock whatever, like, because either way it's bad.

692
00:34:23,114 --> 00:34:25,834
Speaker 5: Like if it did change and he didn't take it consideration,

693
00:34:25,914 --> 00:34:29,074
Speaker 5: it's bad if it didn't change and he still went

694
00:34:29,114 --> 00:34:34,473
Speaker 5: into the wind knowingly, that's bad too, you know, And

695
00:34:34,514 --> 00:34:37,274
Speaker 5: I like part of it. I put on like it's

696
00:34:37,314 --> 00:34:42,553
Speaker 5: the coach's decision. Did he actually tell Joe Cardona, if

697
00:34:42,554 --> 00:34:44,513
Speaker 5: we lose the toss, we're going this way or that way?

698
00:34:44,554 --> 00:34:46,234
Speaker 4: I was going to say that, but I said, allow,

699
00:34:46,634 --> 00:34:49,754
Speaker 4: that seems so ridiculous that you don't have that.

700
00:34:49,913 --> 00:34:53,714
Speaker 5: I tho where you go out for the toss because

701
00:34:53,754 --> 00:34:56,074
Speaker 5: we have been here for twenty five years and we

702
00:34:56,154 --> 00:34:58,834
Speaker 5: know that that would be ridiculous. But we're just like

703
00:34:58,873 --> 00:35:01,073
Speaker 5: everybody else. Now, as you said a little while ago,

704
00:35:01,834 --> 00:35:05,034
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know if everything every.

705
00:35:04,873 --> 00:35:08,314
Speaker 4: Little given the directions if we lose the toss, this

706
00:35:08,393 --> 00:35:09,593
Speaker 4: is direction we want to, Like.

707
00:35:09,554 --> 00:35:13,953
Speaker 5: We know Matthew Slater was always told, but all your

708
00:35:13,994 --> 00:35:15,433
Speaker 5: scenarios ID.

709
00:35:15,314 --> 00:35:18,154
Speaker 4: Like Joe's been out there for tosses before, like even

710
00:35:18,194 --> 00:35:20,834
Speaker 4: he should know you know which way we're gonna go, Coach.

711
00:35:21,754 --> 00:35:22,234
Speaker 4: I don't know.

712
00:35:23,234 --> 00:35:24,034
Speaker 5: It's a great point.

713
00:35:24,154 --> 00:35:26,594
Speaker 4: Or maybe the excitement of that last play was just

714
00:35:26,674 --> 00:35:30,033
Speaker 4: still so much that it was an oversight, I don't know.

715
00:35:30,314 --> 00:35:33,674
Speaker 5: Or maybe the win wasn't that big of a factor. Yeah,

716
00:35:33,913 --> 00:35:35,873
Speaker 5: or maybe and it didn't matter right.

717
00:35:36,433 --> 00:35:43,674
Speaker 4: Right, Uh, let's go to Chris in New Hampshire. What's up, Chris, Hey.

718
00:35:43,354 --> 00:35:47,073
Speaker 12: Fellows, how are you doing good? I won't say Fred,

719
00:35:47,154 --> 00:35:50,633
Speaker 12: thank you very much. I've incorporated the Fred Smiff into

720
00:35:50,674 --> 00:35:53,513
Speaker 12: my life and since then I've had the courage to

721
00:35:53,994 --> 00:35:58,393
Speaker 12: post my girlfriend to start my own company. So I

722
00:35:58,473 --> 00:36:01,354
Speaker 12: really appreciate you show me that power move.

723
00:36:02,354 --> 00:36:05,194
Speaker 5: It's absolutely a power move. Good job by you. I

724
00:36:05,274 --> 00:36:06,993
Speaker 5: like it, so thank you very much for sure.

725
00:36:07,074 --> 00:36:12,873
Speaker 13: And if mister Craft is listening, Paul Priuliu needs a

726
00:36:12,913 --> 00:36:16,354
Speaker 13: new car. The PU crew have been the most entertaining

727
00:36:16,393 --> 00:36:19,114
Speaker 13: part of this team for going on but five years.

728
00:36:19,873 --> 00:36:22,433
Speaker 13: And if Paul can't get to work, that's gonna pick

729
00:36:22,473 --> 00:36:22,754
Speaker 13: the team.

730
00:36:22,913 --> 00:36:25,634
Speaker 4: Well, the letters can go to one Patriot Place.

731
00:36:26,154 --> 00:36:28,114
Speaker 5: I love this campaign postmarket.

732
00:36:28,354 --> 00:36:28,553
Speaker 4: Yeah.

733
00:36:28,714 --> 00:36:29,834
Speaker 5: I feel like you know, like.

734
00:36:29,754 --> 00:36:30,433
Speaker 14: You guys are great?

735
00:36:30,473 --> 00:36:30,953
Speaker 11: Thank you?

736
00:36:31,034 --> 00:36:32,074
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks Chris.

737
00:36:32,154 --> 00:36:35,834
Speaker 5: That high school teacher that everybody like rallies around, I feel.

738
00:36:35,594 --> 00:36:38,634
Speaker 4: Like that Yeah, you're gonna walk out one day and

739
00:36:38,714 --> 00:36:41,993
Speaker 4: it's just start crying. We're all going to be start crying. Yeah,

740
00:36:42,034 --> 00:36:43,754
Speaker 4: we'll put it on me. I get emotional, We'll put

741
00:36:43,754 --> 00:36:47,194
Speaker 4: it on the social media. Speaking of emotional, Hey.

742
00:36:47,114 --> 00:36:50,754
Speaker 3: Look who's back from the locker room? What was the mood?

743
00:36:51,794 --> 00:36:59,994
Speaker 8: Zoom out, Mike, what was it like the locker room?

744
00:37:00,873 --> 00:37:00,953
Speaker 4: Like?

745
00:37:01,354 --> 00:37:03,433
Speaker 3: What was it like in the.

746
00:37:05,154 --> 00:37:09,993
Speaker 4: Wistful kind of you know, I found myself kind of

747
00:37:10,034 --> 00:37:14,834
Speaker 4: humming it the other day? Hey, indeed, so Mike, what

748
00:37:14,873 --> 00:37:15,433
Speaker 4: was it like?

749
00:37:15,913 --> 00:37:18,433
Speaker 8: It was a pretty standard day. I wouldn't say there

750
00:37:18,554 --> 00:37:21,594
Speaker 8: was overwhelming energy or things usually we get in I

751
00:37:21,594 --> 00:37:24,674
Speaker 8: feel like wenesdayse guys are coming out of meetings and resetting,

752
00:37:24,794 --> 00:37:26,913
Speaker 8: so not a lot of you know, hanging around guys

753
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:29,994
Speaker 8: getting ready for practice. We did hear from Christian Gonzalez,

754
00:37:30,114 --> 00:37:33,834
Speaker 8: Vaderian Lowe, and Kendrick Bourne. I really like Vederian low

755
00:37:33,953 --> 00:37:36,953
Speaker 8: I just he's just really accountable. He says the things

756
00:37:36,953 --> 00:37:38,714
Speaker 8: that I feel like you're thinking when he's like, yeah,

757
00:37:38,873 --> 00:37:40,114
Speaker 8: you know, we had the run game. We felt like

758
00:37:40,154 --> 00:37:42,593
Speaker 8: going early and it's an attitude we've got to get

759
00:37:42,634 --> 00:37:43,194
Speaker 8: back to it.

760
00:37:43,274 --> 00:37:43,473
Speaker 15: You know.

761
00:37:43,554 --> 00:37:45,953
Speaker 8: He was accountable on a lot of the mistakes that

762
00:37:46,393 --> 00:37:48,834
Speaker 8: you know happened some of the run you know, specific

763
00:37:48,953 --> 00:37:51,154
Speaker 8: run game questions that were asked to him. So I

764
00:37:51,234 --> 00:37:52,633
Speaker 8: just like how accountable he is.

765
00:37:52,873 --> 00:37:53,033
Speaker 14: You know.

766
00:37:53,114 --> 00:37:55,314
Speaker 8: I know it's it's been up and down for him

767
00:37:55,354 --> 00:37:58,033
Speaker 8: and a lot of injuries have affected him. But I

768
00:37:58,034 --> 00:37:59,834
Speaker 8: think all the guys are saying the right things right now.

769
00:37:59,953 --> 00:38:02,073
Speaker 8: You know, it's just a year two and seven. It's

770
00:38:02,234 --> 00:38:06,034
Speaker 8: you're up against it and you only keep pressing certain buttons.

771
00:38:05,994 --> 00:38:06,834
Speaker 16: Over and over again.

772
00:38:06,953 --> 00:38:09,114
Speaker 8: So you know, I guess urgency is the thing of

773
00:38:09,114 --> 00:38:09,433
Speaker 8: the week.

774
00:38:09,594 --> 00:38:11,234
Speaker 16: That's what Jarrod said at the top. It felt like

775
00:38:11,274 --> 00:38:12,513
Speaker 16: a lot of the guys are like, we got to

776
00:38:12,514 --> 00:38:13,554
Speaker 16: be urgent every week.

777
00:38:14,114 --> 00:38:16,593
Speaker 8: So they're all very aware of where they're at, what's

778
00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:19,314
Speaker 8: going right, what's going wrong right now? And yeah, it's

779
00:38:19,354 --> 00:38:21,913
Speaker 8: just overall though, felt like kind of a standard day.

780
00:38:21,913 --> 00:38:25,633
Speaker 4: And so some of our fans may not realize this

781
00:38:25,674 --> 00:38:30,633
Speaker 4: is a new thing this year, but cameras are no

782
00:38:30,714 --> 00:38:33,754
Speaker 4: longer allowed in the locker room. If you want to

783
00:38:33,794 --> 00:38:37,674
Speaker 4: do a video interview with somebody, you make a request

784
00:38:37,834 --> 00:38:40,953
Speaker 4: and they they walk them across the hall to the

785
00:38:40,994 --> 00:38:46,114
Speaker 4: old to the REVS locker room. Revolutionary in the building.

786
00:38:46,194 --> 00:38:48,473
Speaker 4: It's the locker room that they use, so it's a

787
00:38:48,514 --> 00:38:51,713
Speaker 4: separate room. Have you been in that room? And what's

788
00:38:51,754 --> 00:38:53,513
Speaker 4: the vibe in the camera room?

789
00:38:53,953 --> 00:38:56,473
Speaker 8: Oh, it's it's definitely different because, as you guys are

790
00:38:56,514 --> 00:38:58,354
Speaker 8: well aware, the camera men are a little different there.

791
00:38:58,393 --> 00:39:00,794
Speaker 8: You know, some salty dogs in there. Of course, you

792
00:39:00,834 --> 00:39:04,473
Speaker 8: know our steamed colleague. I guess Dan roach Of he's

793
00:39:04,514 --> 00:39:07,314
Speaker 8: on all access, right, we can call him a colleague. Yeah,

794
00:39:07,314 --> 00:39:10,513
Speaker 8: he's always in there asking questions. He makes fun of

795
00:39:10,554 --> 00:39:12,674
Speaker 8: me a little bit though, as I lurk, which I

796
00:39:13,114 --> 00:39:15,074
Speaker 8: like to, you know, listen and I walk around a

797
00:39:15,074 --> 00:39:16,714
Speaker 8: little bit. You know, Dan's right in the middle there

798
00:39:17,034 --> 00:39:19,714
Speaker 8: firing off the questions. But yeah, all the cameras are

799
00:39:19,714 --> 00:39:21,314
Speaker 8: set up, you know, they're already. They're all just kind

800
00:39:21,354 --> 00:39:23,433
Speaker 8: of sitting around waiting instead of standing in the middle

801
00:39:23,433 --> 00:39:24,394
Speaker 8: of the locker room waiting.

802
00:39:24,433 --> 00:39:28,274
Speaker 4: Different for different vibe in the camera room than the lock.

803
00:39:28,274 --> 00:39:30,274
Speaker 8: I think it is a different vibe because you don't

804
00:39:30,274 --> 00:39:32,074
Speaker 8: have to have your head on a swivel anymore. You know,

805
00:39:32,114 --> 00:39:34,154
Speaker 8: you don't have to be ready for a scrum to

806
00:39:34,194 --> 00:39:36,594
Speaker 8: break out at any moment. You know they're gonna just

807
00:39:36,594 --> 00:39:38,354
Speaker 8: bring the guys to you, so you can just sit

808
00:39:38,393 --> 00:39:39,594
Speaker 8: there and you know, be on your phone for a

809
00:39:39,634 --> 00:39:41,593
Speaker 8: little while if you want, you know, have some quiet time,

810
00:39:41,994 --> 00:39:44,513
Speaker 8: and they'll walk Christian Gonzalez right up to you.

811
00:39:44,554 --> 00:39:46,993
Speaker 4: And so when you when you're a camera person, you

812
00:39:47,074 --> 00:39:50,513
Speaker 4: request you know, let's say Vederian Lowe and the is

813
00:39:50,554 --> 00:39:55,354
Speaker 4: it kind of etiquette that okay, that's that person's interview.

814
00:39:55,473 --> 00:39:56,594
Speaker 8: No, No, everybody does it.

815
00:39:56,674 --> 00:39:58,474
Speaker 6: It's full. It's a full scrum.

816
00:39:58,514 --> 00:40:01,074
Speaker 8: Everybody sets up in a semicircle. You got, you know whatever,

817
00:40:01,114 --> 00:40:02,434
Speaker 8: it is five to ten cameras.

818
00:40:02,674 --> 00:40:06,834
Speaker 5: They request players like they as a media group players

819
00:40:06,913 --> 00:40:10,393
Speaker 5: and like Stacey and Aaron will get you know, the

820
00:40:10,433 --> 00:40:12,393
Speaker 5: three or four different guys that were requested.

821
00:40:12,473 --> 00:40:13,194
Speaker 4: Lucas go to that.

822
00:40:13,354 --> 00:40:15,633
Speaker 8: Lucas does a great job. Lucas has been wrangling guys.

823
00:40:15,674 --> 00:40:17,913
Speaker 8: Asked them today who we got? He was on top

824
00:40:17,953 --> 00:40:19,194
Speaker 8: of it and he had guys ready to go.

825
00:40:19,314 --> 00:40:20,393
Speaker 6: So say what do we got?

826
00:40:20,514 --> 00:40:20,674
Speaker 16: Yeah?

827
00:40:20,754 --> 00:40:25,074
Speaker 8: Yeah, he efforted Vedarian low that he wasn't sure I

828
00:40:25,554 --> 00:40:26,714
Speaker 8: level we did get Vidarian love.

829
00:40:26,754 --> 00:40:28,234
Speaker 16: So that was that was exciting.

830
00:40:28,433 --> 00:40:30,354
Speaker 5: How did Vederian Lowe look.

831
00:40:30,994 --> 00:40:34,794
Speaker 8: Physically physically not as uh not as jarring as I

832
00:40:34,794 --> 00:40:36,274
Speaker 8: saw last last week? I think when I was in

833
00:40:36,274 --> 00:40:39,314
Speaker 8: the locker room, it was like giant you know, shoulder

834
00:40:39,433 --> 00:40:41,913
Speaker 8: strap and a knee brain. I mean he was still

835
00:40:41,913 --> 00:40:43,794
Speaker 8: not quite dressed for practice yet, Paul. I know they're

836
00:40:43,794 --> 00:40:46,234
Speaker 8: wearn'ting full pads today, so I assume he probably will

837
00:40:46,274 --> 00:40:50,114
Speaker 8: be suiting up with a bunch of different braces and

838
00:40:50,234 --> 00:40:52,714
Speaker 8: slings of things of this nature. But uh, you know,

839
00:40:52,754 --> 00:40:54,913
Speaker 8: we talked last week, and yeah I talked again this week.

840
00:40:54,953 --> 00:40:56,513
Speaker 16: He's just I think I read in.

841
00:40:56,473 --> 00:40:58,114
Speaker 8: One of the doctors The's books he said, you know,

842
00:40:58,154 --> 00:41:00,914
Speaker 8: recommending covering football teams always talk to the offensive lineman.

843
00:41:00,953 --> 00:41:03,114
Speaker 8: They're the ones who know everything and are usually the

844
00:41:03,114 --> 00:41:05,114
Speaker 8: most talkative. And I think he's a He's just a

845
00:41:05,114 --> 00:41:07,073
Speaker 8: good example of that of a guy who I think

846
00:41:07,074 --> 00:41:09,794
Speaker 8: says all the things that you kind of want to hear.

847
00:41:09,873 --> 00:41:11,553
Speaker 8: You want to hear the accountability, you want to hear

848
00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:12,594
Speaker 8: on the bad plays.

849
00:41:12,873 --> 00:41:13,794
Speaker 16: You know, what went wrong?

850
00:41:13,953 --> 00:41:14,033
Speaker 8: Was?

851
00:41:14,114 --> 00:41:14,593
Speaker 16: Is my fault?

852
00:41:14,834 --> 00:41:16,314
Speaker 8: You know I have to be better on that, So

853
00:41:16,714 --> 00:41:19,113
Speaker 8: plenty of that. Of course, you know two and seven,

854
00:41:19,154 --> 00:41:20,593
Speaker 8: it starts to get old, and it's like, all right,

855
00:41:20,634 --> 00:41:22,914
Speaker 8: we just can't keep saying my bad, my bad every week.

856
00:41:23,354 --> 00:41:24,834
Speaker 8: At some point they've got to turn it around.

857
00:41:25,034 --> 00:41:29,194
Speaker 4: So there was no residual comments about the shift of

858
00:41:29,234 --> 00:41:31,354
Speaker 4: the line, you know, the change that they made that

859
00:41:32,754 --> 00:41:33,473
Speaker 4: to start the game.

860
00:41:33,594 --> 00:41:36,873
Speaker 8: No, no, no one really asked him about about that personnel,

861
00:41:36,913 --> 00:41:39,513
Speaker 8: but you know it did say shoot, what play was it?

862
00:41:39,554 --> 00:41:40,154
Speaker 16: I forget there was.

863
00:41:40,154 --> 00:41:42,354
Speaker 8: One play he said, you know, specifically him and him

864
00:41:42,354 --> 00:41:44,314
Speaker 8: and Jordan had a miscommunication.

865
00:41:43,714 --> 00:41:46,754
Speaker 5: Second and one second and one run to hasty there

866
00:41:46,754 --> 00:41:48,513
Speaker 5: was only one guy over there. Neither one of them

867
00:41:48,554 --> 00:41:52,354
Speaker 5: blocked them. Yeah, so yeah, it wasn't great across the

868
00:41:52,393 --> 00:41:54,953
Speaker 5: board for for all, I would say six guys that

869
00:41:55,034 --> 00:41:56,754
Speaker 5: played significant snaps.

870
00:41:56,834 --> 00:41:58,593
Speaker 8: Now and he and he he said it. I mean,

871
00:41:58,634 --> 00:42:00,593
Speaker 8: he's like, we have to do better as an offensive line.

872
00:42:00,594 --> 00:42:03,513
Speaker 8: We just can't get the run game going. That's on us, and.

873
00:42:03,194 --> 00:42:04,994
Speaker 16: You know it's it doesn't fix.

874
00:42:04,834 --> 00:42:06,953
Speaker 8: It, but at least you know that they're well aware

875
00:42:06,953 --> 00:42:07,194
Speaker 8: of what.

876
00:42:07,114 --> 00:42:11,554
Speaker 4: The what's the last time people have talked to Scott Peters? Defensive?

877
00:42:11,834 --> 00:42:14,394
Speaker 5: Last? Defense? Defense?

878
00:42:14,433 --> 00:42:14,593
Speaker 4: Last?

879
00:42:15,393 --> 00:42:16,794
Speaker 16: We should hear from him on Thursday.

880
00:42:16,873 --> 00:42:17,674
Speaker 5: Thursday will be the.

881
00:42:17,594 --> 00:42:19,354
Speaker 4: Next That will be interesting see what he has.

882
00:42:19,393 --> 00:42:22,314
Speaker 5: He talks every two weeks the position coaches. They alternate

883
00:42:22,314 --> 00:42:23,114
Speaker 5: offense and defense.

884
00:42:23,194 --> 00:42:25,194
Speaker 8: Yeah, a little rotation goings.

885
00:42:25,314 --> 00:42:27,473
Speaker 4: Go back to the tpx houtline eight five to five

886
00:42:27,514 --> 00:42:30,994
Speaker 4: past five hundred, fidel is in Tampa. What's up, Fiddel?

887
00:42:32,473 --> 00:42:34,194
Speaker 14: Hey you guys, Hi.

888
00:42:36,234 --> 00:42:38,393
Speaker 15: I had a couple of things I wanted to follow

889
00:42:38,473 --> 00:42:41,994
Speaker 15: up on. I called the pregame show this past Sunday,

890
00:42:43,794 --> 00:42:46,354
Speaker 15: and I was basically saying how Matt Smith was wrong

891
00:42:47,354 --> 00:42:52,314
Speaker 15: about and how Paul was right. But then Paul yesterday

892
00:42:53,074 --> 00:42:55,553
Speaker 15: you got me. You're upset because now you're wanting to

893
00:42:55,953 --> 00:42:58,073
Speaker 15: and usually I'm always team Paul all the way.

894
00:43:00,234 --> 00:43:01,834
Speaker 16: Not today you.

895
00:43:01,794 --> 00:43:04,794
Speaker 15: Said about none. It's about yesterday one point specific like

896
00:43:05,034 --> 00:43:09,074
Speaker 15: bringing in other teams rejects where I receivers like Jonathan Mingo.

897
00:43:09,674 --> 00:43:13,874
Speaker 15: I do not want that. I'm tired of the Taekwon Thornton,

898
00:43:13,994 --> 00:43:17,033
Speaker 15: the Jalen Polk's already I'm already tired of it. The

899
00:43:17,114 --> 00:43:19,714
Speaker 15: Chad Jacksons. I don't want anyone to reclamation project.

900
00:43:19,953 --> 00:43:22,114
Speaker 4: None of those are those are all draft picks.

901
00:43:22,314 --> 00:43:25,473
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not really a reclamation project. The guy in

902
00:43:25,514 --> 00:43:27,994
Speaker 5: the second year he caught like forty balls as a rookie,

903
00:43:29,354 --> 00:43:29,754
Speaker 5: I know.

904
00:43:29,714 --> 00:43:31,913
Speaker 15: But he's obviously they're obviously wanting to move on because

905
00:43:31,913 --> 00:43:33,433
Speaker 15: they're like they don't like him, or they don't want

906
00:43:33,433 --> 00:43:35,673
Speaker 15: to see the potension with him. If he was good,

907
00:43:35,714 --> 00:43:37,953
Speaker 15: he's going through a rough time, they would put up

908
00:43:37,994 --> 00:43:40,194
Speaker 15: with it, especially it's a rookie contract.

909
00:43:40,393 --> 00:43:43,953
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean yeah, and I get your point.

910
00:43:43,953 --> 00:43:46,234
Speaker 5: For Dell, just you know, real quick and we can

911
00:43:46,314 --> 00:43:51,234
Speaker 5: move on. It wasn't necessarily specifically Jonathan Mingo. It was

912
00:43:51,674 --> 00:43:54,873
Speaker 5: a guy not being used much wherever he is.

913
00:43:55,114 --> 00:43:56,754
Speaker 4: Kyle van Noy, Yeah.

914
00:43:56,953 --> 00:43:59,954
Speaker 5: Maybe you maybe you take him. That's that's the example

915
00:43:59,953 --> 00:44:01,953
Speaker 5: I used on the radio and the pregame show on

916
00:44:01,994 --> 00:44:05,153
Speaker 5: the other on my Chin Wing on the China.

917
00:44:05,074 --> 00:44:05,634
Speaker 16: The good stuff.

918
00:44:05,634 --> 00:44:08,513
Speaker 5: Well, Darius Slayton was one I used. You know, I

919
00:44:08,913 --> 00:44:11,433
Speaker 5: was okay, But I'm just like a guy who's not

920
00:44:12,074 --> 00:44:16,114
Speaker 5: playing a ton where he is that might be looking

921
00:44:16,314 --> 00:44:19,714
Speaker 5: to get into another situation, and you have eight games

922
00:44:19,754 --> 00:44:23,154
Speaker 5: really of no pressure to see if he can establish

923
00:44:23,154 --> 00:44:25,074
Speaker 5: a connection with Drake May. I'd be interested in that.

924
00:44:25,393 --> 00:44:27,513
Speaker 5: But Fidel to you a point. It didn't have to

925
00:44:27,514 --> 00:44:30,314
Speaker 5: be Jonathan Mingo. You're right, he hasn't really done anything

926
00:44:30,354 --> 00:44:30,714
Speaker 5: this year.

927
00:44:32,114 --> 00:44:34,873
Speaker 15: No, of course, And I'm not saying oh specifically him,

928
00:44:34,953 --> 00:44:38,754
Speaker 15: I just I'm tired of us having these players as

929
00:44:38,754 --> 00:44:41,194
Speaker 15: to our team, who I already could tell was not

930
00:44:41,234 --> 00:44:46,114
Speaker 15: gonna do anything. Even in PEAKEE Brady and Belichick, we

931
00:44:46,194 --> 00:44:50,074
Speaker 15: couldn't even get Mohammed Sanu to do anything for us.

932
00:44:50,794 --> 00:44:53,234
Speaker 15: So like, even if we had the best coach, best

933
00:44:53,674 --> 00:44:56,473
Speaker 15: quarterback of time, Mohamasanu was not studying us our team

934
00:44:56,473 --> 00:44:59,754
Speaker 15: at twent nineteen. I don't think Jonathan Mingo or any

935
00:44:59,754 --> 00:45:01,873
Speaker 15: other receiver, not just him specifically.

936
00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:04,873
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I just really Mama Sanu was at

937
00:45:04,873 --> 00:45:07,474
Speaker 5: the end of a decent career, thanks, and had nothing

938
00:45:07,514 --> 00:45:10,393
Speaker 5: really left to give physically, Like Jonathan Mingo was a

939
00:45:10,433 --> 00:45:12,873
Speaker 5: young guy, like there's no juice, Like Jalen hy is

940
00:45:12,953 --> 00:45:16,314
Speaker 5: a young guy like that, it's not a physical problem.

941
00:45:16,433 --> 00:45:18,433
Speaker 5: Is he good enough? I don't know, the answer might

942
00:45:18,473 --> 00:45:21,953
Speaker 5: be no. But like Mohammed Sanu, he was brought in.

943
00:45:21,994 --> 00:45:24,834
Speaker 5: He had a good career. He had a good career, yeah,

944
00:45:24,873 --> 00:45:26,714
Speaker 5: like you know, and then they brought him in sort

945
00:45:26,754 --> 00:45:28,394
Speaker 5: of the end of the line. You couldn't run anymore.

946
00:45:28,554 --> 00:45:31,433
Speaker 5: And if you remember, he heard his ankle really quick too.

947
00:45:31,554 --> 00:45:34,953
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think that that ended before it even began. Now,

948
00:45:34,953 --> 00:45:36,593
Speaker 5: I would have never given him a second round pick

949
00:45:36,634 --> 00:45:39,394
Speaker 5: for him, you know, at the peak of his health.

950
00:45:39,994 --> 00:45:43,354
Speaker 8: Right, that's jarring, Like you're expecting to get a lot

951
00:45:43,354 --> 00:45:45,354
Speaker 8: out of him, Like you're expecting him to really like

952
00:45:45,514 --> 00:45:46,913
Speaker 8: get you know, Fred brings.

953
00:45:46,674 --> 00:45:49,033
Speaker 5: Up Kyle van Noy, Like that's a good example, Like

954
00:45:49,473 --> 00:45:54,034
Speaker 5: Danny Woodhead. That's someone else's cast off that you found

955
00:45:54,074 --> 00:45:54,873
Speaker 5: a role for.

956
00:45:55,114 --> 00:45:57,513
Speaker 8: You know, and they've got to be creative like that

957
00:45:57,594 --> 00:46:00,234
Speaker 8: when you're at this point, you know, at this point

958
00:46:00,274 --> 00:46:01,953
Speaker 8: in the league, when you're at the bottom, you need

959
00:46:01,994 --> 00:46:04,033
Speaker 8: to turn over every single rock that you can. That's

960
00:46:04,034 --> 00:46:07,554
Speaker 8: why I like some of the stuff. Yeah, it's a

961
00:46:07,554 --> 00:46:09,553
Speaker 8: great one, Like and that was a team that.

962
00:46:09,514 --> 00:46:12,274
Speaker 5: Was Now my guess is you need to do that

963
00:46:12,354 --> 00:46:15,073
Speaker 5: like ten times to get a Ninkovic or to get

964
00:46:15,114 --> 00:46:18,194
Speaker 5: a van neyd. But like, you don't know if you

965
00:46:18,194 --> 00:46:18,953
Speaker 5: don't try.

966
00:46:18,873 --> 00:46:26,234
Speaker 4: Right, Kevin Ferry, he's a football coach and he's a

967
00:46:26,274 --> 00:46:28,114
Speaker 4: coach at the school he teaches that and he was

968
00:46:28,194 --> 00:46:30,754
Speaker 4: wondering if he could reach out to the gal that

969
00:46:30,834 --> 00:46:34,393
Speaker 4: does the Evan is back from practice and also Mike's

970
00:46:34,473 --> 00:46:36,393
Speaker 4: back from the locker room and the other jingles. I

971
00:46:36,393 --> 00:46:38,834
Speaker 4: would love to hear. I would love to talk to

972
00:46:38,873 --> 00:46:42,113
Speaker 4: her and hire her to work on a walkout song

973
00:46:42,154 --> 00:46:46,274
Speaker 4: for our football team next year. All Carrie Underwood, let

974
00:46:46,274 --> 00:46:48,474
Speaker 4: me know if she is at all interested we do

975
00:46:48,594 --> 00:46:51,354
Speaker 4: we pay. Feel free to give her my info.

976
00:46:51,834 --> 00:46:52,954
Speaker 16: I already sent her the email.

977
00:46:53,393 --> 00:46:56,913
Speaker 4: This is what you can get, so we'll be I'll

978
00:46:56,913 --> 00:46:57,714
Speaker 4: be interesting.

979
00:46:57,393 --> 00:47:00,474
Speaker 5: Opportunities, Mike, we provide opportunities.

980
00:47:00,554 --> 00:47:02,513
Speaker 16: I've been waiting all night for Friday night. Will that

981
00:47:02,554 --> 00:47:03,673
Speaker 16: be what it would be for the high school?

982
00:47:03,873 --> 00:47:07,954
Speaker 4: Yeah? So so Matt follow up on that and Kevin,

983
00:47:08,194 --> 00:47:10,674
Speaker 4: if it works out, we'd love to know, you know,

984
00:47:10,714 --> 00:47:14,953
Speaker 4: how it worked out. That would be great. So that's

985
00:47:14,994 --> 00:47:16,594
Speaker 4: pretty cool.

986
00:47:16,634 --> 00:47:19,153
Speaker 8: Go shoot it, you know, to watch his team walk

987
00:47:19,194 --> 00:47:21,393
Speaker 8: out to chill and kate to be pretty cool.

988
00:47:21,554 --> 00:47:25,154
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see, I've got a lot of emails coming in.

989
00:47:25,314 --> 00:47:28,594
Speaker 4: There's a lot of emails. Yeah, and again, I just

990
00:47:28,634 --> 00:47:30,954
Speaker 4: want to remind people but that when you email the show,

991
00:47:31,433 --> 00:47:35,953
Speaker 4: we put you into our distribution list for the newsletter,

992
00:47:36,034 --> 00:47:38,634
Speaker 4: the PU newsletter. So even if you don't have a question,

993
00:47:38,754 --> 00:47:41,194
Speaker 4: just email the show and we'll get your name into

994
00:47:41,674 --> 00:47:42,913
Speaker 4: the distribution list.

995
00:47:42,994 --> 00:47:44,473
Speaker 5: No big whoop, Nope.

996
00:47:44,834 --> 00:47:48,234
Speaker 4: Josh writes in how do you see the current receivers

997
00:47:48,274 --> 00:47:51,593
Speaker 4: developing over the next few years? Right now, I very

998
00:47:51,674 --> 00:47:53,714
Speaker 4: much see the players as very similar to what the

999
00:47:53,714 --> 00:47:55,873
Speaker 4: Patriots have had in the past, but they need a

1000
00:47:55,873 --> 00:47:58,633
Speaker 4: real threat so everyone can play where they actually fit

1001
00:47:59,194 --> 00:48:01,674
Speaker 4: if they can get consistent. I see Pop Douglas as

1002
00:48:01,674 --> 00:48:04,994
Speaker 4: an Edelman two point zero, as Edelman didn't really blow

1003
00:48:05,074 --> 00:48:08,074
Speaker 4: up until a few years after he was on the team. Also,

1004
00:48:08,114 --> 00:48:11,634
Speaker 4: I see Booty as an Ammondola two point oh and

1005
00:48:11,714 --> 00:48:13,993
Speaker 4: if you can start catching the ball, I see Poke

1006
00:48:14,034 --> 00:48:17,073
Speaker 4: as a LaFell two point zero. I think they just

1007
00:48:17,154 --> 00:48:19,993
Speaker 4: need an upgrade at the number one receiver position and

1008
00:48:20,034 --> 00:48:22,754
Speaker 4: at tight end with Henry turning thirty this year and

1009
00:48:22,873 --> 00:48:26,594
Speaker 4: virtually nothing behind him long term.

1010
00:48:26,994 --> 00:48:29,354
Speaker 16: I don't really see I don't really see Douglas.

1011
00:48:29,433 --> 00:48:31,194
Speaker 8: I mean I don't want to. He's not Edelman. I

1012
00:48:31,194 --> 00:48:35,274
Speaker 8: mean Edelman was every down kind of guy. Isle Yeah, physical,

1013
00:48:35,953 --> 00:48:37,434
Speaker 8: and I like Pop Douglas.

1014
00:48:37,473 --> 00:48:38,274
Speaker 16: I think he's uh.

1015
00:48:39,074 --> 00:48:41,633
Speaker 8: I mean, I hate calling him the number three four

1016
00:48:41,794 --> 00:48:42,993
Speaker 8: kind of but that's like, but.

1017
00:48:44,314 --> 00:48:48,873
Speaker 5: Was really physical after the catch, they would he was durable. Welker.

1018
00:48:48,994 --> 00:48:52,073
Speaker 5: Those guys were tough, and they proved it over and

1019
00:48:52,114 --> 00:48:55,994
Speaker 5: over and over again across the middle with breaking tackles

1020
00:48:55,994 --> 00:48:58,794
Speaker 5: and making guys miss yards after catch. I haven't seen

1021
00:48:58,834 --> 00:49:04,034
Speaker 5: that from to Mario Douglas. He's right. Edelman didn't blow

1022
00:49:04,114 --> 00:49:07,913
Speaker 5: up until later. But Edelman caught forty passes as like

1023
00:49:07,953 --> 00:49:10,514
Speaker 5: the fifth option, yeah, like as.

1024
00:49:10,354 --> 00:49:13,154
Speaker 4: A rookie, and he had some injury, Yeah, he.

1025
00:49:13,114 --> 00:49:15,953
Speaker 5: Had he had injury problems at first. So maybe this

1026
00:49:15,994 --> 00:49:18,513
Speaker 5: is the same kind of stuff with Douglas. Maybe all

1027
00:49:18,514 --> 00:49:22,274
Speaker 5: of a sudden year three, year four, he's comfortable, he

1028
00:49:22,393 --> 00:49:25,993
Speaker 5: clicks and he's more durable. He gets a little bigg absolutely,

1029
00:49:26,074 --> 00:49:28,913
Speaker 5: But I'm with Mike, I don't I'm not looking at

1030
00:49:28,953 --> 00:49:29,354
Speaker 5: that yet.

1031
00:49:29,634 --> 00:49:32,433
Speaker 8: The thing that that could be interesting or it could

1032
00:49:32,514 --> 00:49:35,953
Speaker 8: be at this point you're frustrated with is that all

1033
00:49:35,994 --> 00:49:38,354
Speaker 8: those receivers are running contract for two more years. You know,

1034
00:49:38,354 --> 00:49:40,633
Speaker 8: except for kJ Osborne, who's currently on the team, he's

1035
00:49:40,634 --> 00:49:43,433
Speaker 8: on a one year deal. But Polk and Baker, we know,

1036
00:49:44,074 --> 00:49:46,474
Speaker 8: Thornton's you know, got the rest of his deal, Douglas

1037
00:49:46,594 --> 00:49:48,953
Speaker 8: got the rest of his deal, Booty's got two more

1038
00:49:48,953 --> 00:49:51,553
Speaker 8: seasons on a hit. So I mean, I feel like

1039
00:49:51,594 --> 00:49:53,673
Speaker 8: you have to just keep stacking these guys and making

1040
00:49:53,714 --> 00:49:57,673
Speaker 8: them compete and hoping that that competition can bring out

1041
00:49:57,794 --> 00:50:00,633
Speaker 8: the best in those crew because like the what we've

1042
00:50:00,634 --> 00:50:02,674
Speaker 8: talked about. Do you feel assured of any of those

1043
00:50:02,674 --> 00:50:04,473
Speaker 8: guys right now? Like, I like Pop Douglas, but he

1044
00:50:04,594 --> 00:50:08,193
Speaker 8: is a slot receiver, like specialty kind of guy, which

1045
00:50:08,194 --> 00:50:09,714
Speaker 8: is nice to have, but it's kind of like a

1046
00:50:09,794 --> 00:50:11,634
Speaker 8: cherry on top of a Sunday that you know when

1047
00:50:11,714 --> 00:50:13,433
Speaker 8: you don't have the fudge or the ice cream yet

1048
00:50:13,873 --> 00:50:15,514
Speaker 8: you know you gotta go get.

1049
00:50:15,314 --> 00:50:18,234
Speaker 5: The one guy. And I don't think he's really similar

1050
00:50:18,274 --> 00:50:22,154
Speaker 5: in style to to Amandola. I think Amandola is the

1051
00:50:22,194 --> 00:50:24,274
Speaker 5: slot guy like Edelman.

1052
00:50:24,794 --> 00:50:27,114
Speaker 8: That's that's the Pop Douglas coump I was Booty.

1053
00:50:28,794 --> 00:50:33,834
Speaker 5: I think I'm intrigued to see if this continues, Like

1054
00:50:34,274 --> 00:50:36,153
Speaker 5: does he continue to find a way to get open

1055
00:50:36,194 --> 00:50:38,674
Speaker 5: deep because he's been doing that. Yeah, and I and

1056
00:50:38,714 --> 00:50:41,393
Speaker 5: I wonder if that's something that he can just consistently

1057
00:50:41,433 --> 00:50:45,873
Speaker 5: as a knack for doing. The production hasn't been there.

1058
00:50:45,953 --> 00:50:49,033
Speaker 5: I mean we remember because it's downfield plays, but he's

1059
00:50:49,074 --> 00:50:50,433
Speaker 5: catching like two basses of the game.

1060
00:50:50,554 --> 00:50:50,954
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1061
00:50:51,114 --> 00:50:53,394
Speaker 8: I thought it was interesting too, low uh Lo said,

1062
00:50:53,514 --> 00:50:54,953
Speaker 8: I mean kind of what Evan was saying to us,

1063
00:50:55,314 --> 00:50:57,433
Speaker 8: like they were dialing up that shot play at the end,

1064
00:50:57,514 --> 00:50:59,714
Speaker 8: the interception they were that was one hundred percent.

1065
00:51:00,154 --> 00:51:01,954
Speaker 16: This is we're going to win the game right now.

1066
00:51:01,834 --> 00:51:02,514
Speaker 5: With no question.

1067
00:51:03,114 --> 00:51:03,794
Speaker 16: That was kind of cool.

1068
00:51:04,433 --> 00:51:08,794
Speaker 4: Roy about the overtime win call, says, I'd rather believe

1069
00:51:08,834 --> 00:51:12,234
Speaker 4: Cardona blew the call to play against the wind than

1070
00:51:12,274 --> 00:51:15,553
Speaker 4: Mayo and the entire Pat's brain trust. Hopefully it's just

1071
00:51:15,634 --> 00:51:16,834
Speaker 4: Mayo having his back.

1072
00:51:17,754 --> 00:51:22,314
Speaker 5: I'd rather believe that too. Yeah, yes, I totally one

1073
00:51:22,354 --> 00:51:24,194
Speaker 5: hundred percent agreement with that email. That'd be a much

1074
00:51:24,234 --> 00:51:26,513
Speaker 5: better sign that the captain went out there and made

1075
00:51:26,554 --> 00:51:29,113
Speaker 5: a mistake, then the head coach didn't even think about it, right.

1076
00:51:29,114 --> 00:51:30,794
Speaker 8: Maybe guys got to be pretty aware of the window.

1077
00:51:30,794 --> 00:51:35,154
Speaker 4: I would have say, sailors and did your sales. Yeah.

1078
00:51:35,473 --> 00:51:38,154
Speaker 4: L from Wisconsin says I feel very down on the team.

1079
00:51:38,674 --> 00:51:40,834
Speaker 4: I'm not sure we'd have the coaching front office to

1080
00:51:40,873 --> 00:51:43,594
Speaker 4: build a good one for the team. This reminds me

1081
00:51:43,594 --> 00:51:47,154
Speaker 4: of the old Colts. Manning would constantly press because he

1082
00:51:47,234 --> 00:51:50,234
Speaker 4: knew if he punted the game was lost. I know

1083
00:51:50,274 --> 00:51:51,274
Speaker 4: the points aren't similar.

1084
00:51:51,354 --> 00:51:53,034
Speaker 5: This reminds you of the old Colts.

1085
00:51:54,354 --> 00:51:56,073
Speaker 6: The score thirty five every night.

1086
00:51:57,194 --> 00:51:59,073
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had one game in Denver where they didn't

1087
00:51:59,114 --> 00:52:03,594
Speaker 4: punt the whole game. One game. I know the points

1088
00:52:03,594 --> 00:52:06,513
Speaker 4: aren't similar, but this kind of feels the same. May

1089
00:52:06,634 --> 00:52:09,194
Speaker 4: is the entire team. They can't run, they can't catch,

1090
00:52:09,873 --> 00:52:12,873
Speaker 4: They just rely on him for everything, and the defense

1091
00:52:12,913 --> 00:52:16,274
Speaker 4: doesn't help. Sure, the Titans only score twenty, but when

1092
00:52:16,314 --> 00:52:18,394
Speaker 4: they go straight down the field on the first drive,

1093
00:52:18,714 --> 00:52:23,914
Speaker 4: you're immediately playing from a deficit. So Elle is warried.

1094
00:52:24,074 --> 00:52:27,234
Speaker 5: I agree with you, Worry, I just don't. I don't

1095
00:52:27,274 --> 00:52:30,354
Speaker 5: necessarily agree with the comp one of the best teams

1096
00:52:30,554 --> 00:52:32,394
Speaker 5: really of the last twenty five years.

1097
00:52:32,514 --> 00:52:32,994
Speaker 4: The goals.

1098
00:52:33,034 --> 00:52:34,953
Speaker 8: I mean, I found myself going back looking at the

1099
00:52:35,034 --> 00:52:37,393
Speaker 8: ninety and ninety two pass just to like, for like

1100
00:52:37,514 --> 00:52:39,834
Speaker 8: comps sick, that's like what that's a better con like

1101
00:52:39,913 --> 00:52:42,433
Speaker 8: what we're what? We're bad teams? Know they what did

1102
00:52:42,433 --> 00:52:44,553
Speaker 8: they really look like? But I mean I did look

1103
00:52:44,594 --> 00:52:46,714
Speaker 8: at the ninety three season though, you know what, I

1104
00:52:46,754 --> 00:52:48,194
Speaker 8: think it was four wins at the end.

1105
00:52:48,234 --> 00:52:50,113
Speaker 16: I mean, it wasn't a great season, but.

1106
00:52:50,274 --> 00:52:52,194
Speaker 5: No, they were one and eleven, but they lost a

1107
00:52:52,194 --> 00:52:54,954
Speaker 5: lot of close games in November and then they started

1108
00:52:54,953 --> 00:52:57,234
Speaker 5: winning those games in December, just like this season, and

1109
00:52:57,274 --> 00:52:58,234
Speaker 5: you had something to build on.

1110
00:52:58,234 --> 00:53:00,873
Speaker 8: Honestly, some signs of life, some signs of what kind

1111
00:53:00,873 --> 00:53:01,993
Speaker 8: of identity this team is.

1112
00:53:02,034 --> 00:53:03,634
Speaker 16: Are they tough to play against? Are they?

1113
00:53:03,674 --> 00:53:05,914
Speaker 8: You know, it's just right now, it feels like teams

1114
00:53:05,913 --> 00:53:08,113
Speaker 8: are licking their chops waiting to get right against them

1115
00:53:08,194 --> 00:53:10,314
Speaker 8: for all the things that have gone wrong for these teams.

1116
00:53:10,314 --> 00:53:12,113
Speaker 8: And you know, I think, you know, you look at

1117
00:53:12,274 --> 00:53:14,834
Speaker 8: like the Chicago pass game. Evan was telling me he's

1118
00:53:14,834 --> 00:53:17,154
Speaker 8: looking at some of the Chicago Beat writers and everybody's like,

1119
00:53:17,754 --> 00:53:19,993
Speaker 8: do we get the third best quarterback in this trap?

1120
00:53:20,114 --> 00:53:21,834
Speaker 16: You know, like they're like worried.

1121
00:53:21,794 --> 00:53:24,274
Speaker 8: And it's like, have you met the Patriots defense yet?

1122
00:53:24,274 --> 00:53:26,913
Speaker 8: Because this might be just Caleb Williams needs.

1123
00:53:26,714 --> 00:53:29,153
Speaker 5: To get And it is funny because like two weeks

1124
00:53:29,194 --> 00:53:32,754
Speaker 5: ago in London when he ripped apart Jacksonville, everybody was,

1125
00:53:33,393 --> 00:53:35,553
Speaker 5: you know, singing the praises of how much development he.

1126
00:53:35,834 --> 00:53:36,433
Speaker 16: Came back on.

1127
00:53:36,554 --> 00:53:38,994
Speaker 5: And then you know, the fourth quarter in the Washington

1128
00:53:39,034 --> 00:53:40,794
Speaker 5: game when he goes and he leads them on two

1129
00:53:40,834 --> 00:53:44,314
Speaker 5: touchdown drives, one of which they botched because they tried

1130
00:53:44,354 --> 00:53:48,194
Speaker 5: to hand the ball off to the offensive lineman. People

1131
00:53:48,234 --> 00:53:50,514
Speaker 5: were like, wow, even when he had a bad game

1132
00:53:50,754 --> 00:53:53,513
Speaker 5: for three quarters, he played his best and now all

1133
00:53:53,554 --> 00:53:55,754
Speaker 5: of a sudden they give up a Hail Mary. The

1134
00:53:55,794 --> 00:53:59,634
Speaker 5: team completely mailed it in last week. I think I

1135
00:53:59,674 --> 00:54:02,114
Speaker 5: explained they gave up a fifty three yard run with

1136
00:54:02,314 --> 00:54:05,033
Speaker 5: like four seconds left in the half, Like that's a

1137
00:54:05,074 --> 00:54:08,073
Speaker 5: hard thing to do. You don't see that. Basically, they

1138
00:54:08,074 --> 00:54:10,194
Speaker 5: were running the clock out and the guy took it

1139
00:54:10,234 --> 00:54:12,674
Speaker 5: to the house and it was fourteen to nine at

1140
00:54:12,674 --> 00:54:14,593
Speaker 5: the time. That ended the game.

1141
00:54:14,714 --> 00:54:21,434
Speaker 4: That play seth and Portland, and that's the one in Oregon,

1142
00:54:21,634 --> 00:54:24,994
Speaker 4: he says, not made. You were touching on this yesterday.

1143
00:54:24,994 --> 00:54:27,073
Speaker 4: But the one thing I love the most about May

1144
00:54:27,194 --> 00:54:31,274
Speaker 4: is that he's exactly like his draft evaluation, same strength

1145
00:54:31,354 --> 00:54:34,033
Speaker 4: and same mistakes. That means they got it right, which

1146
00:54:34,074 --> 00:54:36,914
Speaker 4: is most of the battle. It's all coaching, roster building

1147
00:54:36,913 --> 00:54:39,674
Speaker 4: an experience from here. So the question is I didn't

1148
00:54:39,714 --> 00:54:42,314
Speaker 4: expect them to be good this year and win a lot.

1149
00:54:42,354 --> 00:54:45,194
Speaker 4: But the operation, as Paul often says, doesn't look right.

1150
00:54:45,913 --> 00:54:48,433
Speaker 4: What do you think is the cause talent coaching or

1151
00:54:48,473 --> 00:54:52,514
Speaker 4: absence of on field leadership due to injuries or something else.

1152
00:54:53,634 --> 00:54:55,714
Speaker 8: I think all of those are an element of how

1153
00:54:55,714 --> 00:54:56,634
Speaker 8: you get to this point.

1154
00:54:56,714 --> 00:54:59,314
Speaker 5: But those kinds of things like the operation doesn't look right,

1155
00:54:59,433 --> 00:55:02,593
Speaker 5: like that's part of the evaluation. Like did they get

1156
00:55:02,634 --> 00:55:07,993
Speaker 5: it right? Like he's I agree with the idea that

1157
00:55:08,194 --> 00:55:12,234
Speaker 5: may is playing to his draft profile. Yeah, I think

1158
00:55:13,433 --> 00:55:16,873
Speaker 5: that's the easy part, that's identifying what the guy physically

1159
00:55:16,994 --> 00:55:19,314
Speaker 5: can and can't do. I don't think there's a lot

1160
00:55:19,354 --> 00:55:20,674
Speaker 5: of misses on that. I don't think there's a lot

1161
00:55:20,674 --> 00:55:22,754
Speaker 5: of guys drafted because we think this guy can throw

1162
00:55:22,794 --> 00:55:24,794
Speaker 5: the ball a country mile and then you get him

1163
00:55:24,794 --> 00:55:30,513
Speaker 5: and he's Jones. Like the miss comes with quarterbacks in particular,

1164
00:55:31,194 --> 00:55:34,433
Speaker 5: is what's upstairs right and his ability to operate an

1165
00:55:34,433 --> 00:55:37,394
Speaker 5: offense and a lot of that stuff you can't really

1166
00:55:37,473 --> 00:55:39,674
Speaker 5: know for sure, and that's why some guys are good

1167
00:55:40,834 --> 00:55:45,234
Speaker 5: from a physical standpoint, Like just pure physically, do you

1168
00:55:45,234 --> 00:55:47,994
Speaker 5: think there's a huge difference between say, the top twenty

1169
00:55:48,074 --> 00:55:51,394
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the league. Now, there's obviously a Lamar Jackson,

1170
00:55:51,554 --> 00:55:54,033
Speaker 5: you know, Patrick Mahomes and a Josh Allen you know,

1171
00:55:54,114 --> 00:55:57,314
Speaker 5: like that have a little bit more of a varied

1172
00:55:57,354 --> 00:55:58,154
Speaker 5: skill set.

1173
00:55:57,994 --> 00:56:00,834
Speaker 4: For the top twenty, but like, yeah, I mean.

1174
00:56:00,674 --> 00:56:04,473
Speaker 5: Physically, Kirk Cousins has everything you need.

1175
00:56:05,274 --> 00:56:07,754
Speaker 16: Yeah, Like, yeah, there's little shades.

1176
00:56:07,514 --> 00:56:12,314
Speaker 5: But he's not as good as some other guys.

1177
00:56:12,393 --> 00:56:15,154
Speaker 4: Jared Goff, it's the decision making in crunch.

1178
00:56:14,873 --> 00:56:17,474
Speaker 5: Time, right, and some guys are really good at it. Yeah,

1179
00:56:17,994 --> 00:56:22,073
Speaker 5: some guys are inconsistent, you know, from week to week,

1180
00:56:22,114 --> 00:56:24,754
Speaker 5: from game to game, series to series, whatever. Trevor Lawrence,

1181
00:56:25,314 --> 00:56:27,393
Speaker 5: Let's use Trevor Lawrence as the example, because I think

1182
00:56:27,393 --> 00:56:31,794
Speaker 5: physically there's nothing he can't do right. But he's not

1183
00:56:31,873 --> 00:56:36,953
Speaker 5: as good as Josh Allen right, well, Patrick Mahomes right Right. Physically,

1184
00:56:36,994 --> 00:56:38,953
Speaker 5: he's probably on par with those guys. I'll bet you

1185
00:56:38,953 --> 00:56:40,513
Speaker 5: he can throw the ball as well. I bet you

1186
00:56:40,554 --> 00:56:42,674
Speaker 5: he can ry. I bet you you know. And I'm

1187
00:56:42,674 --> 00:56:44,994
Speaker 5: not talking about his like forty times at the combine.

1188
00:56:44,994 --> 00:56:47,393
Speaker 5: I'm talking about what's the guy play, yea, what can

1189
00:56:47,473 --> 00:56:50,274
Speaker 5: he do physically right? Justin Herbert, what can't he do

1190
00:56:50,393 --> 00:56:52,874
Speaker 5: physically right? But he's not as good as those guys.

1191
00:56:54,034 --> 00:56:56,794
Speaker 5: That's where the evaluation comes in. Yeah, he run the

1192
00:56:56,873 --> 00:56:58,673
Speaker 5: offense every week the way we want it run.

1193
00:56:59,314 --> 00:57:01,433
Speaker 8: That's what's I think encouraging to me about May I mean,

1194
00:57:01,433 --> 00:57:03,834
Speaker 8: I don't know claim to know that I can identify

1195
00:57:03,913 --> 00:57:06,393
Speaker 8: him going through progressions, but I do know what a

1196
00:57:06,473 --> 00:57:09,194
Speaker 8: quarterback who's calm in the pocket looks like. And I'm

1197
00:57:09,194 --> 00:57:10,913
Speaker 8: excited about that. But at the same time, I feel

1198
00:57:10,913 --> 00:57:12,234
Speaker 8: like I saw that with Mac a little bit at

1199
00:57:12,274 --> 00:57:15,234
Speaker 8: the beginning and it faded. He kind of lost it, right,

1200
00:57:15,274 --> 00:57:18,113
Speaker 8: he lost his pocket presence when right out of the gate,

1201
00:57:18,114 --> 00:57:19,834
Speaker 8: I thought that was one of his best things.

1202
00:57:19,834 --> 00:57:20,874
Speaker 16: So hopefully they can stay on that.

1203
00:57:20,914 --> 00:57:23,474
Speaker 5: I agree, because I took that cheese too. Yeah, I

1204
00:57:23,474 --> 00:57:25,514
Speaker 5: mean in twenty one, I what I saw for stid

1205
00:57:25,554 --> 00:57:27,954
Speaker 5: him in nineteen I saw a poise in the pocket

1206
00:57:28,834 --> 00:57:32,194
Speaker 5: from front of the mac Jones early in his career

1207
00:57:32,794 --> 00:57:35,714
Speaker 5: that really disappeared as time went on.

1208
00:57:36,474 --> 00:57:39,073
Speaker 4: Devin in Belleville, Canada rites And every time I see

1209
00:57:39,074 --> 00:57:42,234
Speaker 4: at Toyota, I think of Paul's car woes. And this

1210
00:57:42,314 --> 00:57:44,434
Speaker 4: has led me to think of some side hustles from

1211
00:57:44,474 --> 00:57:48,034
Speaker 4: mister Perrillo. Oh, I suggest during the off season between

1212
00:57:48,034 --> 00:57:51,554
Speaker 4: noon and two on Wednesdays, Paul should host an online

1213
00:57:51,594 --> 00:57:55,274
Speaker 4: course for NFL coaches from the Perillo School of Clock Management.

1214
00:57:55,714 --> 00:57:59,154
Speaker 4: He could also have a course for outsmarting analytics with logic.

1215
00:57:59,674 --> 00:58:01,914
Speaker 4: Surely mister Krafft would let him host these as long

1216
00:58:01,954 --> 00:58:05,714
Speaker 4: as he less Patriots coaches in for free. Good one.

1217
00:58:06,114 --> 00:58:08,554
Speaker 16: It is one that's pretty funny. I was.

1218
00:58:08,594 --> 00:58:10,874
Speaker 8: I was thinking they should have you like sit next

1219
00:58:10,874 --> 00:58:12,633
Speaker 8: to the Madden guys when they do their mad although

1220
00:58:12,634 --> 00:58:14,073
Speaker 8: they don't play it, but I think it'd be funny

1221
00:58:14,074 --> 00:58:16,554
Speaker 8: if you were like letting them Madden. They're playing Madden,

1222
00:58:16,634 --> 00:58:19,194
Speaker 8: you were yelling at them about like poor clock decisions,

1223
00:58:19,234 --> 00:58:19,954
Speaker 8: like you.

1224
00:58:19,914 --> 00:58:23,194
Speaker 5: Know Madden, though I don't really know Madden. That would

1225
00:58:23,234 --> 00:58:23,514
Speaker 5: be hard.

1226
00:58:23,554 --> 00:58:25,674
Speaker 4: If you could have a side hustle, now, would it.

1227
00:58:25,634 --> 00:58:28,954
Speaker 5: Be anything that makes me money? I need money?

1228
00:58:29,554 --> 00:58:32,514
Speaker 4: So the thing could make you money? What would you do?

1229
00:58:32,554 --> 00:58:35,754
Speaker 8: You parties as a stel getdy you know, as.

1230
00:58:36,914 --> 00:58:39,794
Speaker 5: I don't know if I knew, and I would do.

1231
00:58:39,754 --> 00:58:43,834
Speaker 4: It UFC fighter hustling out. Yeah, you know, like I

1232
00:58:43,834 --> 00:58:47,034
Speaker 4: wouldn't mind teaching tennis if I could, if it could

1233
00:58:47,114 --> 00:58:48,673
Speaker 4: make you know, if I could make a good money,

1234
00:58:48,714 --> 00:58:48,994
Speaker 4: and I.

1235
00:58:49,474 --> 00:58:52,434
Speaker 5: Should, I say coaching baseball. You know, I follow the

1236
00:58:52,434 --> 00:58:54,514
Speaker 5: footsteps of my mentor Brian Moore.

1237
00:58:55,074 --> 00:58:57,834
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I'm talking about, right, Yeah.

1238
00:58:57,634 --> 00:59:00,514
Speaker 5: So you somebody you really like to make money doing that? No,

1239
00:59:00,634 --> 00:59:03,673
Speaker 5: you could make money teaching test You could make money

1240
00:59:03,714 --> 00:59:06,914
Speaker 5: doing that, could I over? You know that's a that's

1241
00:59:06,954 --> 00:59:07,874
Speaker 5: a rich man's sport.

1242
00:59:08,034 --> 00:59:09,994
Speaker 16: Yeah, young rich wise to curse.

1243
00:59:10,234 --> 00:59:14,474
Speaker 5: Oh we got a whole scandal white shorts. You love it.

1244
00:59:14,634 --> 00:59:16,474
Speaker 4: I think they make like sixty to one hundred bucks

1245
00:59:16,474 --> 00:59:16,794
Speaker 4: an hour.

1246
00:59:16,874 --> 00:59:18,914
Speaker 5: And you would put put the grape smugglers on. That'd

1247
00:59:18,954 --> 00:59:22,114
Speaker 5: be awesome. Oh yeah, the wooden racket still puts the

1248
00:59:22,154 --> 00:59:27,674
Speaker 5: Felas shirt on a little board. Yeah, you puts it

1249
00:59:27,674 --> 00:59:33,994
Speaker 5: all the way up here. Wilson T. Two thousands break

1250
00:59:34,034 --> 00:59:37,234
Speaker 5: it out of retirement from the seventies. He actually has

1251
00:59:37,274 --> 00:59:40,394
Speaker 5: an aluminum racket. You know, you know they have graphite now.

1252
00:59:40,314 --> 00:59:44,154
Speaker 4: Right, said Wilson T. Two thousands. That's what I just said, guy, racket,

1253
00:59:44,674 --> 00:59:46,634
Speaker 4: I know that's.

1254
00:59:48,634 --> 00:59:48,994
Speaker 5: You go with.

1255
00:59:49,034 --> 00:59:51,514
Speaker 4: The w was like the worst racket ever made.

1256
00:59:51,634 --> 00:59:52,794
Speaker 5: Wasn't really because I had one.

1257
00:59:52,834 --> 00:59:54,634
Speaker 4: It had a sweet spot the size of an apple.

1258
00:59:54,754 --> 00:59:57,914
Speaker 5: Well, the rackets themselves at that time had very small

1259
00:59:58,274 --> 01:00:01,834
Speaker 5: but this, this was like conn It was perfect for

1260
01:00:01,914 --> 01:00:05,154
Speaker 5: Jimmy Connors because he hit the ball so flat, you know.

1261
01:00:05,714 --> 01:00:08,074
Speaker 4: Uh. But it was a terrible racket.

1262
01:00:09,434 --> 01:00:11,954
Speaker 5: But at the time was it a terrible racket? I

1263
01:00:11,994 --> 01:00:12,673
Speaker 5: don't think so.

1264
01:00:13,034 --> 01:00:17,114
Speaker 4: Well compared to wood you know, like when I was

1265
01:00:17,274 --> 01:00:20,514
Speaker 4: I tried all those racks. I had Yamaha fiberglass, I had,

1266
01:00:21,034 --> 01:00:23,314
Speaker 4: I had them all. I had the head gammel v

1267
01:00:23,434 --> 01:00:24,514
Speaker 4: loss racket.

1268
01:00:25,994 --> 01:00:26,593
Speaker 14: Whipping a whole.

1269
01:00:27,994 --> 01:00:30,434
Speaker 5: Yeah, my brother used to like joke all the time

1270
01:00:30,434 --> 01:00:32,034
Speaker 5: because we had like a number of like the old

1271
01:00:32,074 --> 01:00:35,314
Speaker 5: wooden rackets, and then he'd had a T two thousand

1272
01:00:35,634 --> 01:00:37,354
Speaker 5: and you know, when he would go to his matches

1273
01:00:37,354 --> 01:00:39,354
Speaker 5: in high school, he goes, yeah, I'm just gonna put

1274
01:00:39,394 --> 01:00:41,434
Speaker 5: like four of them in the bag, you know, and

1275
01:00:41,514 --> 01:00:44,394
Speaker 5: show up. He did it once, he goes, yeah, I felt.

1276
01:00:44,154 --> 01:00:45,714
Speaker 4: Like felt like an idiot, right.

1277
01:00:47,434 --> 01:00:47,554
Speaker 10: Uh.

1278
01:00:47,754 --> 01:00:49,633
Speaker 4: Todd's in North Carolina. What's up, Todd?

1279
01:00:51,674 --> 01:00:54,354
Speaker 17: Hey, guys. I've been reading a lot of different things

1280
01:00:54,394 --> 01:00:58,114
Speaker 17: about the old line, especially from Evan, and it seems

1281
01:00:58,114 --> 01:01:00,914
Speaker 17: in a running game really needs to get back to

1282
01:01:01,514 --> 01:01:04,074
Speaker 17: you know, North South instead of you know, trying to

1283
01:01:04,074 --> 01:01:07,954
Speaker 17: attack the edges. And it seems to be that they

1284
01:01:08,034 --> 01:01:10,354
Speaker 17: just feel that they don't have the linemen to do

1285
01:01:10,514 --> 01:01:13,514
Speaker 17: to this outside runs that they're trying to set up

1286
01:01:13,594 --> 01:01:16,314
Speaker 17: for the system. You think that they'll be able to,

1287
01:01:16,554 --> 01:01:19,874
Speaker 17: you know, at least incorporate more you know, North South

1288
01:01:19,954 --> 01:01:22,434
Speaker 17: type running. And do we have a fullback on the roster.

1289
01:01:22,554 --> 01:01:24,234
Speaker 17: I'm not sure if we were not. And I was

1290
01:01:24,274 --> 01:01:25,354
Speaker 17: really curious.

1291
01:01:25,474 --> 01:01:26,073
Speaker 4: That as well.

1292
01:01:26,274 --> 01:01:28,634
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, they don't we don't have a full.

1293
01:01:28,474 --> 01:01:29,434
Speaker 16: Bet spare a lineman.

1294
01:01:29,674 --> 01:01:32,074
Speaker 4: I mean it's not like like I know, they have

1295
01:01:32,234 --> 01:01:34,514
Speaker 4: been going east west a lot, you know, the wide

1296
01:01:34,594 --> 01:01:36,874
Speaker 4: zone and all that stuff, but when they go up

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01:01:36,874 --> 01:01:39,834
Speaker 4: the middle they don't do that well either. Now these days.

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01:01:39,994 --> 01:01:43,874
Speaker 5: They and they weren't. Like I just I think people

1299
01:01:43,874 --> 01:01:46,554
Speaker 5: are forgetting how many broken tackles Stevenson created.

1300
01:01:46,634 --> 01:01:50,194
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, they were getting penetration. It's either when they

1301
01:01:50,234 --> 01:01:50,954
Speaker 4: were running well.

1302
01:01:50,914 --> 01:01:53,434
Speaker 5: It's been a struggle. I don't I agree with Todd.

1303
01:01:53,434 --> 01:01:56,274
Speaker 5: I don't think that all the alignment are necessarily built

1304
01:01:57,074 --> 01:02:00,154
Speaker 5: for zone schemes. But I don't think that's the main problem.

1305
01:02:00,714 --> 01:02:03,874
Speaker 4: When cold Strange was picked, was he picked with zone

1306
01:02:03,914 --> 01:02:04,633
Speaker 4: schemes in mind?

1307
01:02:04,714 --> 01:02:05,834
Speaker 5: You know, I think that's the theory.

1308
01:02:05,954 --> 01:02:09,673
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, But who else was right?

1309
01:02:09,994 --> 01:02:12,194
Speaker 5: Like that's well, because that's when they were good. That's

1310
01:02:12,234 --> 01:02:14,834
Speaker 5: when they the first the first attempt to change to

1311
01:02:14,914 --> 01:02:19,794
Speaker 5: this style was twenty two with Maddy p problem was

1312
01:02:19,834 --> 01:02:23,474
Speaker 5: they didn't have anybody who could implement it, install it right.

1313
01:02:23,594 --> 01:02:25,994
Speaker 5: And that's when the whole story just came out about

1314
01:02:25,994 --> 01:02:28,034
Speaker 5: like Kendrick Bourne's like that's not right.

1315
01:02:28,314 --> 01:02:30,674
Speaker 8: Right now, they should have the pieces to install that

1316
01:02:30,674 --> 01:02:31,834
Speaker 8: they just I don't know if they have the pieces

1317
01:02:31,834 --> 01:02:33,834
Speaker 8: to execute it or at least across the board where

1318
01:02:34,434 --> 01:02:36,554
Speaker 8: I just wonder how much this scheme is tied to

1319
01:02:36,634 --> 01:02:38,514
Speaker 8: that outside zone that they're like.

1320
01:02:39,194 --> 01:02:42,034
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it doesn't exist the best if if your

1321
01:02:42,034 --> 01:02:46,554
Speaker 4: best supposed lineman is called Big Mike, is he suited

1322
01:02:46,634 --> 01:02:47,874
Speaker 4: for this outside.

1323
01:02:47,514 --> 01:02:49,434
Speaker 5: I don't think that's why I said I agree with Todd.

1324
01:02:49,434 --> 01:02:49,994
Speaker 5: I don't think that.

1325
01:02:49,954 --> 01:02:52,314
Speaker 8: They're overly suited for it, right right.

1326
01:02:52,634 --> 01:02:54,994
Speaker 5: But I don't think that's the problem. I don't think

1327
01:02:55,034 --> 01:02:58,554
Speaker 5: they they haven't run, you know, like like like Evan says,

1328
01:02:58,714 --> 01:03:02,194
Speaker 5: gap and duo all that effectively either, you know, like

1329
01:03:02,514 --> 01:03:05,314
Speaker 5: how many games have they had, Like their long run

1330
01:03:05,354 --> 01:03:07,594
Speaker 5: has been like five yards seven yards?

1331
01:03:08,714 --> 01:03:14,634
Speaker 4: You know Dan's and Daytona Beach. What's up, Dan? Are

1332
01:03:14,634 --> 01:03:15,394
Speaker 4: you at the track?

1333
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Speaker 11: Can you hear me?

1334
01:03:17,434 --> 01:03:17,593
Speaker 5: Yes?

1335
01:03:19,354 --> 01:03:19,593
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1336
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Speaker 18: So I have three I have three pics for you guys.

1337
01:03:22,074 --> 01:03:24,554
Speaker 18: What do you guys think about the grades that just

1338
01:03:24,594 --> 01:03:28,073
Speaker 18: came out today from CBS Sports about they gave the

1339
01:03:28,114 --> 01:03:32,314
Speaker 18: Patriots the d H for often, the D for defense,

1340
01:03:32,394 --> 01:03:35,153
Speaker 18: and the Steve Bluff, which is an improvement from last

1341
01:03:35,234 --> 01:03:38,113
Speaker 18: year from an F for special teams. And they gave

1342
01:03:38,154 --> 01:03:42,514
Speaker 18: the overall coaching UH a key in minus. I think

1343
01:03:42,554 --> 01:03:44,714
Speaker 18: those grades, in my opinion, are pretty accurate for the

1344
01:03:44,794 --> 01:03:49,714
Speaker 18: current staden the Patriots. My second take is, I was

1345
01:03:49,754 --> 01:03:53,954
Speaker 18: reading this report yesterday about uh a good veteran name

1346
01:03:54,034 --> 01:03:57,194
Speaker 18: that could possibly could could could uh sense to come

1347
01:03:57,234 --> 01:04:00,034
Speaker 18: in and help drive since he's having a lot of

1348
01:04:00,074 --> 01:04:03,514
Speaker 18: issues with uh, you know, trying to learn on the

1349
01:04:03,554 --> 01:04:06,314
Speaker 18: job as a head coach. They mentioned Ron Rivera since

1350
01:04:06,314 --> 01:04:08,914
Speaker 18: he wouldn't really be, you know, interested in being a

1351
01:04:08,914 --> 01:04:12,274
Speaker 18: head coach a really good advisor.

1352
01:04:13,194 --> 01:04:13,434
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1353
01:04:14,834 --> 01:04:18,554
Speaker 18: The last take that I have would be them adding

1354
01:04:18,594 --> 01:04:22,714
Speaker 18: that that change in face backs that they need. I

1355
01:04:22,754 --> 01:04:25,073
Speaker 18: still don't think they running backs that they got are

1356
01:04:25,514 --> 01:04:29,474
Speaker 18: besides Remandre Gibson. But I don't think that Michael anything.

1357
01:04:33,434 --> 01:04:37,474
Speaker 8: Okay, thanks for the call, Dan, So with a great

1358
01:04:37,514 --> 01:04:38,234
Speaker 8: grades would.

1359
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Speaker 5: D on offense taking laps the offense, D defense, D

1360
01:04:43,794 --> 01:04:46,434
Speaker 5: minus maybe and then D minus for coaching and a

1361
01:04:46,474 --> 01:04:51,394
Speaker 5: C plus for special teams. Yeah, yeah, I would say, Yeah,

1362
01:04:51,394 --> 01:04:53,714
Speaker 5: I mean that's probably about right. I mean I think, yeah,

1363
01:04:53,754 --> 01:04:56,114
Speaker 5: I mean plus only because of the last two games

1364
01:04:56,194 --> 01:04:57,594
Speaker 5: with Marcus Jones's punt returns.

1365
01:04:57,634 --> 01:04:59,554
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if they were three and three or

1366
01:04:59,834 --> 01:05:02,874
Speaker 4: four and four. Then okay, you get c's. Maybe I

1367
01:05:02,914 --> 01:05:03,394
Speaker 4: would have had it.

1368
01:05:03,474 --> 01:05:06,073
Speaker 5: I would have special teams I don't think have been great.

1369
01:05:06,114 --> 01:05:09,274
Speaker 5: But the last two games, Marcus Jones has been electric,

1370
01:05:09,434 --> 01:05:11,394
Speaker 5: as I've often predicted, so he.

1371
01:05:11,354 --> 01:05:13,434
Speaker 4: Brings the grade up. But yeah, I mean, you can't

1372
01:05:13,514 --> 01:05:17,434
Speaker 4: argue with d's when you're two and seven, right, and.

1373
01:05:17,474 --> 01:05:18,714
Speaker 8: There were games to be one. I mean there were

1374
01:05:18,714 --> 01:05:20,554
Speaker 8: a couple of games they could have won too. You

1375
01:05:20,594 --> 01:05:22,954
Speaker 8: know how much difference without to make a couple of

1376
01:05:22,994 --> 01:05:24,794
Speaker 8: extra plays a couple extra wins.

1377
01:05:24,594 --> 01:05:26,674
Speaker 5: Right, And that's like part of my my point, Like

1378
01:05:26,714 --> 01:05:30,434
Speaker 5: everybody execution brings you scored. Everybody said that last year,

1379
01:05:30,674 --> 01:05:32,954
Speaker 5: you know, like, oh, they could have easily won X,

1380
01:05:33,074 --> 01:05:35,074
Speaker 5: Y and C. Yeah, but when you're not a good team,

1381
01:05:35,114 --> 01:05:36,154
Speaker 5: you don't win those games.

1382
01:05:36,234 --> 01:05:36,914
Speaker 16: That's the sign.

1383
01:05:37,034 --> 01:05:38,794
Speaker 5: You know, they easily could have lost the two games

1384
01:05:38,794 --> 01:05:45,954
Speaker 5: that they won too easily, right, I mean I think

1385
01:05:45,954 --> 01:05:47,954
Speaker 5: there's a camera angle out there in the Jets game

1386
01:05:47,954 --> 01:05:50,834
Speaker 5: that they actually lost that game. Like I'm just saying,

1387
01:05:50,834 --> 01:05:53,474
Speaker 5: that's how close it is. You know, you win, you win,

1388
01:05:53,794 --> 01:05:56,034
Speaker 5: you win a couple by by a blade of grass

1389
01:05:56,034 --> 01:05:59,234
Speaker 5: in both cases, and you lose a game by a

1390
01:05:59,314 --> 01:06:02,314
Speaker 5: heel against Miami game that you easily could have won,

1391
01:06:02,794 --> 01:06:04,754
Speaker 5: and I'm sorry you lose two games in overtime. Those

1392
01:06:04,794 --> 01:06:07,274
Speaker 5: are games you could have won, absolutely right.

1393
01:06:07,474 --> 01:06:10,874
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you kind of are what you are Franklin

1394
01:06:10,914 --> 01:06:13,954
Speaker 4: and Baltimore. I know the absence of Pepper's, Barmore and

1395
01:06:14,074 --> 01:06:16,073
Speaker 4: Jennings have been impactful.

1396
01:06:17,594 --> 01:06:19,674
Speaker 5: Jennings hasn't been out, No, I think you might have

1397
01:06:19,674 --> 01:06:23,834
Speaker 5: missed one game. You missed one game anyway.

1398
01:06:24,434 --> 01:06:27,034
Speaker 4: I know they've been in on the capability of the defense,

1399
01:06:27,074 --> 01:06:30,554
Speaker 4: but I also think their impact has been quite overblown.

1400
01:06:31,354 --> 01:06:33,834
Speaker 4: Those players, for instance, really didn't change the fact that

1401
01:06:33,874 --> 01:06:36,074
Speaker 4: for the past few weeks, any team with the semblance

1402
01:06:36,074 --> 01:06:38,474
Speaker 4: of a passing attack pretty much had their way with

1403
01:06:38,514 --> 01:06:41,114
Speaker 4: the secondary. And I still think they have a glaring

1404
01:06:41,114 --> 01:06:44,874
Speaker 4: weakness covering scatbacks. The focus has been rightly on the

1405
01:06:44,914 --> 01:06:47,794
Speaker 4: offense in this post Brady era, but I also think

1406
01:06:47,834 --> 01:06:51,594
Speaker 4: fans may need to realize the defense needs an overhaul too,

1407
01:06:52,034 --> 01:06:54,474
Speaker 4: at all three levels. Ps I would like to sign

1408
01:06:54,554 --> 01:06:55,314
Speaker 4: up for the newsletter.

1409
01:06:57,154 --> 01:06:57,834
Speaker 16: You signed up?

1410
01:06:58,074 --> 01:07:03,954
Speaker 4: Yeah, magic has I mean offenses had their way with

1411
01:07:04,034 --> 01:07:04,794
Speaker 4: the secondary.

1412
01:07:05,594 --> 01:07:09,554
Speaker 5: I think passing games have Yeah. Yeah, I think you

1413
01:07:09,554 --> 01:07:11,594
Speaker 5: can do whatever you want against the Patriots. If you

1414
01:07:11,674 --> 01:07:18,874
Speaker 5: have an offense like Tyler Huntley couldn't Yeah, but did enough. Yeah,

1415
01:07:19,114 --> 01:07:20,314
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence certainly did.

1416
01:07:20,474 --> 01:07:22,434
Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah, it's true.

1417
01:07:22,434 --> 01:07:23,914
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, it's just as hard when you

1418
01:07:23,954 --> 01:07:26,474
Speaker 8: lose guy's injury what it could have been, and you know,

1419
01:07:26,474 --> 01:07:29,114
Speaker 8: when you spend all this time lamenting what Christian Barmore

1420
01:07:29,114 --> 01:07:31,394
Speaker 8: would have meant to this team, what bril Pepper's presence,

1421
01:07:31,754 --> 01:07:33,994
Speaker 8: you know, might have meant to keeping these guys together

1422
01:07:34,074 --> 01:07:35,994
Speaker 8: and maybe getting them over the hump in.

1423
01:07:35,994 --> 01:07:37,474
Speaker 16: A couple of those games that they were close.

1424
01:07:37,634 --> 01:07:39,633
Speaker 5: Tennessee threw for like two forty the other Yeah.

1425
01:07:39,714 --> 01:07:42,754
Speaker 8: Right, but there's no question with a backup. Yeah, they need,

1426
01:07:42,994 --> 01:07:44,914
Speaker 8: they need, they need to add some bodies. I mean,

1427
01:07:44,954 --> 01:07:47,114
Speaker 8: you get Barmore back, and you got White and godcha.

1428
01:07:47,154 --> 01:07:49,994
Speaker 8: I mean those are three pretty good pieces to start from.

1429
01:07:49,994 --> 01:07:53,074
Speaker 8: But the edges, the edges of the defense need to

1430
01:07:53,114 --> 01:07:55,554
Speaker 8: be reinforced. And I mean, we'll see with Jennings if

1431
01:07:55,594 --> 01:07:58,194
Speaker 8: he's able to you know, really emerge as you know,

1432
01:07:58,314 --> 01:08:00,874
Speaker 8: I like him as a rotational guy. But to me,

1433
01:08:01,074 --> 01:08:03,874
Speaker 8: if you can't impact the past game, that's that's it.

1434
01:08:03,954 --> 01:08:05,114
Speaker 16: You know, for me, it's hard.

1435
01:08:05,274 --> 01:08:08,554
Speaker 5: It's hard Levron Gotchaw is I think a good run

1436
01:08:08,594 --> 01:08:13,474
Speaker 5: stuffing defensive lineman. I just you know, I don't know

1437
01:08:14,074 --> 01:08:17,273
Speaker 5: what that gets you, you know. And I think Anthony Jennings.

1438
01:08:17,394 --> 01:08:21,074
Speaker 5: You notice, but he's a physical player, Anthony Jennings. But

1439
01:08:21,074 --> 01:08:23,714
Speaker 5: I don't think he impacts games. I don't. I mean

1440
01:08:23,754 --> 01:08:26,514
Speaker 5: he's played well, I might try. Like Mike had a

1441
01:08:26,594 --> 01:08:27,714
Speaker 5: joke to, these.

1442
01:08:27,354 --> 01:08:31,234
Speaker 4: Guys are being asked to be playmakers and they're a lot.

1443
01:08:31,794 --> 01:08:33,594
Speaker 5: No, those two guys aren't being asked.

1444
01:08:33,434 --> 01:08:34,754
Speaker 4: To be playing Anthony Jennings.

1445
01:08:34,834 --> 01:08:36,754
Speaker 5: No, he's not. He's not being asked to be a player.

1446
01:08:36,794 --> 01:08:38,073
Speaker 5: He's asked to set the engine.

1447
01:08:39,314 --> 01:08:43,114
Speaker 4: I think dfls, Yeah, I think, But.

1448
01:08:42,714 --> 01:08:44,314
Speaker 5: He's not like being asked to go out there and

1449
01:08:44,314 --> 01:08:45,274
Speaker 5: play like Lawrence Taylor.

1450
01:08:45,314 --> 01:08:47,394
Speaker 4: Okay, who's the guy on the front seven that's being

1451
01:08:47,594 --> 01:08:51,074
Speaker 4: asked to do make plays? To make a play to

1452
01:08:51,194 --> 01:08:52,794
Speaker 4: who's your playmaker in the front seven?

1453
01:08:52,794 --> 01:08:53,394
Speaker 5: They don't have any.

1454
01:08:53,434 --> 01:08:56,714
Speaker 4: It's my point. Somebody needs to step like these guys

1455
01:08:56,754 --> 01:08:58,314
Speaker 4: are trying because no one.

1456
01:08:58,554 --> 01:09:02,314
Speaker 5: But Anthony Jennings's role is to make plays.

1457
01:09:02,434 --> 01:09:05,394
Speaker 4: It is right now because no one else is doing it.

1458
01:09:05,434 --> 01:09:08,314
Speaker 4: No one else can, and his role should be.

1459
01:09:08,314 --> 01:09:10,394
Speaker 5: I think he's playing exactly the same as he did well,

1460
01:09:10,434 --> 01:09:12,914
Speaker 5: but that's like two years ago. Well, Matthew Judah and

1461
01:09:12,994 --> 01:09:14,034
Speaker 5: Joshua on the edge.

1462
01:09:14,354 --> 01:09:17,354
Speaker 4: His role should be a complimentary player to guys like.

1463
01:09:17,354 --> 01:09:19,674
Speaker 5: That critical of Anthony Jennings.

1464
01:09:19,434 --> 01:09:21,754
Speaker 4: But he can't be right now because he needs to

1465
01:09:21,754 --> 01:09:23,154
Speaker 4: be the guy.

1466
01:09:23,314 --> 01:09:25,794
Speaker 5: I don't think he's playing any different. He's doing exactly

1467
01:09:25,834 --> 01:09:26,314
Speaker 5: what he did.

1468
01:09:26,634 --> 01:09:29,314
Speaker 8: Yeah, they could definitely use more out of him, but

1469
01:09:30,234 --> 01:09:32,634
Speaker 8: I just he I mean, he might be playing more

1470
01:09:32,794 --> 01:09:35,274
Speaker 8: snaps right and people points he's playing more snaps and

1471
01:09:35,274 --> 01:09:37,354
Speaker 8: he's got more pressures.

1472
01:09:36,714 --> 01:09:38,634
Speaker 5: But it's not like they're sending him on these like

1473
01:09:39,194 --> 01:09:41,594
Speaker 5: it's third and ten in there and he's lining up

1474
01:09:41,634 --> 01:09:43,954
Speaker 5: and you know he's got ahead of steam and he's

1475
01:09:43,954 --> 01:09:45,954
Speaker 5: trying to beat the tackle after you No, that's not

1476
01:09:46,034 --> 01:09:47,194
Speaker 5: really what he's being asked to do.

1477
01:09:47,394 --> 01:09:49,274
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you mean you have to know when you

1478
01:09:49,314 --> 01:09:51,354
Speaker 8: signed him to a three year deal that this is

1479
01:09:51,514 --> 01:09:53,034
Speaker 8: kind of who he is, you know, like, and it's

1480
01:09:53,074 --> 01:09:55,274
Speaker 8: fine to be part of a rotation, but you know,

1481
01:09:55,314 --> 01:09:56,034
Speaker 8: now you're seeing something.

1482
01:09:56,114 --> 01:09:58,394
Speaker 4: I think you've got a lot of complimentary players that

1483
01:09:58,474 --> 01:10:00,914
Speaker 4: aren't being allowed to be complimentary right now.

1484
01:10:00,994 --> 01:10:04,234
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you see, I would agree with your thought here.

1485
01:10:04,314 --> 01:10:07,554
Speaker 5: If people are being critical of the players, right, Like

1486
01:10:07,594 --> 01:10:10,314
Speaker 5: if you're saying, well, Anthony Jennings thinks, I mean, how

1487
01:10:10,314 --> 01:10:11,234
Speaker 5: many plays does he make?

1488
01:10:11,434 --> 01:10:12,634
Speaker 4: That's unfair, right.

1489
01:10:12,514 --> 01:10:15,114
Speaker 5: Because that's not what he is. I don't think that

1490
01:10:15,154 --> 01:10:19,474
Speaker 5: people were doing that to Anthony Jennings like Keon White.

1491
01:10:19,714 --> 01:10:22,514
Speaker 5: If people are saying this guy should be a fifteen

1492
01:10:22,594 --> 01:10:24,914
Speaker 5: sack guy, he should be like Chris Jones and be just,

1493
01:10:25,434 --> 01:10:27,914
Speaker 5: then that's not fair to Keyon White. That's not what

1494
01:10:27,994 --> 01:10:28,314
Speaker 5: he is.

1495
01:10:28,394 --> 01:10:32,354
Speaker 4: He wasn't. Yeah, you know, we talk about the evaluation

1496
01:10:32,514 --> 01:10:35,154
Speaker 4: coming out of the college. That's not what his evaluation was.

1497
01:10:35,314 --> 01:10:36,634
Speaker 16: No, No, you know.

1498
01:10:37,834 --> 01:10:39,634
Speaker 5: So if you know, and this is one of those

1499
01:10:39,674 --> 01:10:43,314
Speaker 5: things that if that's the way people are perceiving these players,

1500
01:10:43,314 --> 01:10:44,994
Speaker 5: then I would agree with you. You're asking them to

1501
01:10:44,994 --> 01:10:45,554
Speaker 5: do too much.

1502
01:10:45,594 --> 01:10:49,834
Speaker 4: Then, But on every defense you need some a guy

1503
01:10:49,954 --> 01:10:51,394
Speaker 4: or two that is your playmaker.

1504
01:10:51,474 --> 01:10:53,434
Speaker 5: They don't have it. They don't have it, certainly not

1505
01:10:53,474 --> 01:10:54,434
Speaker 5: in the front seven.

1506
01:10:54,594 --> 01:10:56,594
Speaker 8: And especially against the pass. And I think that's what's

1507
01:10:56,634 --> 01:10:58,834
Speaker 8: most glaring. Like I think like if the run defense stunk,

1508
01:10:58,874 --> 01:11:01,074
Speaker 8: but you had some good pass rushers that could, you know,

1509
01:11:01,114 --> 01:11:03,634
Speaker 8: like it would look a lot different than You've got

1510
01:11:03,634 --> 01:11:06,434
Speaker 8: one guy who's able to set the edge, but otherwise they.

1511
01:11:06,354 --> 01:11:07,234
Speaker 16: Run all over them.

1512
01:11:07,234 --> 01:11:09,634
Speaker 8: They're in short distances, no way the passing defense can

1513
01:11:09,634 --> 01:11:10,314
Speaker 8: get off the field.

1514
01:11:10,634 --> 01:11:13,314
Speaker 5: I would say that the starting safeties Peppers and Dugger

1515
01:11:13,794 --> 01:11:17,714
Speaker 5: and Gonzales, there are guys that can make plays. Yeah, yeah,

1516
01:11:18,714 --> 01:11:20,594
Speaker 5: but I don't really see anybody in the front seven

1517
01:11:20,674 --> 01:11:21,834
Speaker 5: that fits that description.

1518
01:11:22,074 --> 01:11:25,914
Speaker 4: With bar Moore out, yep, let's see, he writes in

1519
01:11:27,434 --> 01:11:29,954
Speaker 4: h do you think instead of looking at Elliott for

1520
01:11:29,994 --> 01:11:33,074
Speaker 4: the draft picks not working out so far, we should

1521
01:11:33,074 --> 01:11:36,514
Speaker 4: blame the Italian evaluators for the team if the players

1522
01:11:36,554 --> 01:11:39,034
Speaker 4: don't work out, since they see more games of these

1523
01:11:39,034 --> 01:11:43,594
Speaker 4: players and the coaching staff well, no, I mean Elliott.

1524
01:11:43,794 --> 01:11:45,834
Speaker 4: They all see all the game, They see all the tape.

1525
01:11:45,914 --> 01:11:48,874
Speaker 4: They may not see them live like the you know,

1526
01:11:48,914 --> 01:11:51,994
Speaker 4: the area of scouts, but they all see all the tape.

1527
01:11:52,074 --> 01:11:54,554
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's unfair to say, like, well, it's the

1528
01:11:54,554 --> 01:11:56,834
Speaker 5: scouts of bringing bad players to them, like they all

1529
01:11:56,874 --> 01:12:00,754
Speaker 5: have access to everybody, right right, yeah, and ultimately one

1530
01:12:00,794 --> 01:12:02,073
Speaker 5: guy makes the decision.

1531
01:12:02,274 --> 01:12:04,874
Speaker 8: How much change did happen to the scouting department though

1532
01:12:04,994 --> 01:12:07,474
Speaker 8: with Bill leaving? I mean, did it mostly stay the same,

1533
01:12:07,474 --> 01:12:09,354
Speaker 8: and Elliot just kind of took it over, Like I don't.

1534
01:12:09,314 --> 01:12:11,474
Speaker 5: Think most of the guys stayed like Cam Williams and

1535
01:12:11,914 --> 01:12:14,234
Speaker 5: I think Patrick Stewart.

1536
01:12:14,034 --> 01:12:17,114
Speaker 4: Yeah, Stewart's still here, Marshall Ooms still here.

1537
01:12:17,194 --> 01:12:19,154
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of those guys stayed the same.

1538
01:12:19,314 --> 01:12:19,394
Speaker 18: Ye.

1539
01:12:21,434 --> 01:12:26,674
Speaker 4: A little over undergame from Anthony Christian more games played

1540
01:12:27,154 --> 01:12:33,354
Speaker 4: this season one and a hey under Underkay, I'll go over.

1541
01:12:33,554 --> 01:12:36,234
Speaker 4: I'll go over, okay four, I mean he hasn't even

1542
01:12:36,234 --> 01:12:37,394
Speaker 4: started practicing.

1543
01:12:37,234 --> 01:12:42,674
Speaker 5: And he won't according to.

1544
01:12:40,594 --> 01:12:43,874
Speaker 4: Catch it today right catches by Poke rest of the

1545
01:12:43,954 --> 01:12:45,754
Speaker 4: season ten and a hey.

1546
01:12:47,034 --> 01:12:47,994
Speaker 5: I'm going to take the over.

1547
01:12:48,234 --> 01:12:50,714
Speaker 16: I am two, I am two. I am I gotta

1548
01:12:50,754 --> 01:12:51,354
Speaker 16: believe he's got.

1549
01:12:51,314 --> 01:12:53,434
Speaker 4: A couple of touchdowns by Hunter Henry rest of the

1550
01:12:53,474 --> 01:12:54,194
Speaker 4: season two and.

1551
01:12:54,154 --> 01:12:54,634
Speaker 5: A hay.

1552
01:12:56,234 --> 01:12:58,314
Speaker 4: Under under, I'll take over.

1553
01:12:58,354 --> 01:13:01,034
Speaker 5: It's got one in nine games. Yeah, he's going to

1554
01:13:01,114 --> 01:13:04,474
Speaker 5: have three in the last eight. I'll take the under.

1555
01:13:04,834 --> 01:13:07,674
Speaker 8: Well, Mike gets better, I know, And I teach you

1556
01:13:07,754 --> 01:13:09,153
Speaker 8: bucking I'm bucking your teachings.

1557
01:13:09,394 --> 01:13:10,114
Speaker 5: What did I teach you?

1558
01:13:10,554 --> 01:13:11,314
Speaker 16: Fall? The trends?

1559
01:13:11,354 --> 01:13:14,874
Speaker 5: Trends, you know, That's that's why I'm driving around one

1560
01:13:14,994 --> 01:13:17,474
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty thousand mile.

1561
01:13:18,874 --> 01:13:20,954
Speaker 8: Trend that keeps running and it's going to continue.

1562
01:13:20,994 --> 01:13:22,074
Speaker 5: That can't get inspected.

1563
01:13:23,194 --> 01:13:26,954
Speaker 4: But as Drake gets better, maybe you know, maybe a

1564
01:13:27,074 --> 01:13:30,714
Speaker 4: Hunter Henry has more chances. Maybe you know, you never know,

1565
01:13:30,754 --> 01:13:33,394
Speaker 4: and he's got something to prove now after being knocked out.

1566
01:13:33,274 --> 01:13:35,114
Speaker 5: Of play half of those games with Drake May.

1567
01:13:35,474 --> 01:13:37,274
Speaker 4: No, but Drake May is gonna get better now.

1568
01:13:38,234 --> 01:13:39,354
Speaker 5: Better than he's already been.

1569
01:13:39,514 --> 01:13:44,594
Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh yeah, I hope so. Yeah, Sash wait sacks

1570
01:13:44,634 --> 01:13:46,954
Speaker 4: by key On White rest of the season four and.

1571
01:13:46,874 --> 01:13:50,514
Speaker 8: A hey, oh the rest of the see I think

1572
01:13:50,554 --> 01:13:53,114
Speaker 8: he's got four. He hasn't had one since week two.

1573
01:13:53,554 --> 01:13:55,394
Speaker 8: I'm gonna that's a trend.

1574
01:13:55,394 --> 01:13:57,354
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the trend there too, and say.

1575
01:13:57,194 --> 01:14:01,194
Speaker 4: Under players who end up with one thousand yards receiving

1576
01:14:01,234 --> 01:14:02,314
Speaker 4: for the season.

1577
01:14:02,394 --> 01:14:03,994
Speaker 5: Hey for the Patriots?

1578
01:14:04,074 --> 01:14:05,794
Speaker 4: Yeah? Under Yeah?

1579
01:14:05,914 --> 01:14:07,194
Speaker 5: Is anybody even sniffing that?

1580
01:14:07,514 --> 01:14:10,434
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't think so. A number of nods. Paul

1581
01:14:10,474 --> 01:14:13,554
Speaker 4: gives the rest of the season a hey, oh oh

1582
01:14:13,634 --> 01:14:17,474
Speaker 4: stop it way over that over for the Patriots.

1583
01:14:17,714 --> 01:14:19,314
Speaker 5: Oh that didn't say that?

1584
01:14:19,434 --> 01:14:22,634
Speaker 4: Ah, well, what if we it was for the Patriots?

1585
01:14:22,994 --> 01:14:27,074
Speaker 5: Under Hunter Henry has four hundred and fourteen yards. He

1586
01:14:27,154 --> 01:14:30,874
Speaker 5: leads the team right then on then no one's even

1587
01:14:30,874 --> 01:14:32,634
Speaker 5: close to a thousand yard pace.

1588
01:14:36,754 --> 01:14:44,194
Speaker 4: Okay, let's see lots of emails. Bad call, Paul, says

1589
01:14:44,274 --> 01:14:48,594
Speaker 4: David in bethleem May took. May took blame by saying

1590
01:14:48,594 --> 01:14:51,034
Speaker 4: he should have thrown the ball harder into the wind.

1591
01:14:51,514 --> 01:14:53,634
Speaker 4: If Paul said his wife picked out his shirt, he's

1592
01:14:53,674 --> 01:14:57,514
Speaker 4: avoiding blame and skirting disaster. Was that mean?

1593
01:14:57,874 --> 01:15:00,154
Speaker 5: I don't know, but yeah, how you could? You could

1594
01:15:00,154 --> 01:15:02,634
Speaker 5: take it that way? That was how Fred took it. Yeah, Dave,

1595
01:15:03,034 --> 01:15:03,394
Speaker 5: that's how.

1596
01:15:03,594 --> 01:15:04,994
Speaker 16: That's how Fred took into the wind.

1597
01:15:05,034 --> 01:15:06,954
Speaker 4: He should have Well, he took.

1598
01:15:06,754 --> 01:15:08,874
Speaker 5: It that he was blaming himself for not throwing it

1599
01:15:08,914 --> 01:15:09,954
Speaker 5: properly into the wind.

1600
01:15:10,034 --> 01:15:13,194
Speaker 4: I took it that he was blaming himself for even

1601
01:15:13,434 --> 01:15:15,194
Speaker 4: making trying to make that throw.

1602
01:15:15,474 --> 01:15:17,634
Speaker 5: I think he shouldn't have talked about the wind. I

1603
01:15:17,674 --> 01:15:20,074
Speaker 5: think quarterbacks when they throw an interceptions shouldn't talk about

1604
01:15:20,114 --> 01:15:25,394
Speaker 5: the wind. And just in full disclosure, Mike, I have

1605
01:15:25,434 --> 01:15:27,394
Speaker 5: a crush, as you know, on Drake May. Yeah, I'm

1606
01:15:27,434 --> 01:15:29,554
Speaker 5: not being critical of Drake May at all. I always

1607
01:15:29,594 --> 01:15:32,154
Speaker 5: say like that might be the first example of a

1608
01:15:32,194 --> 01:15:38,034
Speaker 5: minor misstep that. He immediately the next day took back.

1609
01:15:38,474 --> 01:15:39,914
Speaker 5: You know, I might have been trying to make myself

1610
01:15:39,954 --> 01:15:43,074
Speaker 5: feel better. I think was the way he ended that

1611
01:15:43,554 --> 01:15:46,714
Speaker 5: like that on EI. That's all like, this is not

1612
01:15:46,794 --> 01:15:50,034
Speaker 5: a it's not an Aaron Rodgers situation. You have to

1613
01:15:50,074 --> 01:15:53,234
Speaker 5: do it for like fifteen years on every interception to

1614
01:15:53,274 --> 01:15:56,674
Speaker 5: be Aaron Rodgers. Like Drake may had one minor like

1615
01:15:56,754 --> 01:15:59,994
Speaker 5: half a line at the end of a very disappointing loss.

1616
01:16:00,034 --> 01:16:01,594
Speaker 5: I'm willing to give him a pass on that.

1617
01:16:02,594 --> 01:16:05,434
Speaker 4: Let's go to Melvin in Tennessee. What's up, Melvin? How

1618
01:16:05,474 --> 01:16:05,874
Speaker 4: you doing?

1619
01:16:06,914 --> 01:16:07,074
Speaker 5: OK?

1620
01:16:07,314 --> 01:16:07,794
Speaker 19: What was going on?

1621
01:16:07,954 --> 01:16:09,234
Speaker 4: Hey?

1622
01:16:09,274 --> 01:16:12,594
Speaker 14: Hey? It was of course good thing you read Mike

1623
01:16:12,754 --> 01:16:17,314
Speaker 14: Trey Barry. It was it was out the time in Nashville.

1624
01:16:17,874 --> 01:16:19,754
Speaker 14: So I just want to say that real quick. And

1625
01:16:19,794 --> 01:16:24,434
Speaker 14: then to talk on Marcus Jwnes now probably been talking

1626
01:16:24,474 --> 01:16:27,274
Speaker 14: about him, but see him lines like he's out something

1627
01:16:27,314 --> 01:16:30,994
Speaker 14: about like how he run and he has just enough

1628
01:16:31,034 --> 01:16:33,394
Speaker 14: distance to not get past up and kind of lost

1629
01:16:33,554 --> 01:16:37,474
Speaker 14: defenders to sleep and then like starts around him. He's amazing.

1630
01:16:38,914 --> 01:16:42,434
Speaker 14: It was kind of alarming to see how, you know,

1631
01:16:42,474 --> 01:16:45,754
Speaker 14: electric he is. But it's great to that is that

1632
01:16:45,874 --> 01:16:48,234
Speaker 14: offense is so bad. I know, I mean fraid you

1633
01:16:48,274 --> 01:16:51,634
Speaker 14: talked yesterday about which one DC. I guess more confident

1634
01:16:51,714 --> 01:16:55,514
Speaker 14: going forward with and just I feel even though with

1635
01:16:55,874 --> 01:16:58,754
Speaker 14: Jiri being there, and I know all these teams look

1636
01:16:58,794 --> 01:17:01,073
Speaker 14: so good against us for some my reason on offense,

1637
01:17:01,194 --> 01:17:03,674
Speaker 14: but I'm gonna gets the defense a little bit more

1638
01:17:03,714 --> 01:17:05,954
Speaker 14: of a fast. But i haven't seen anything on the offense,

1639
01:17:06,314 --> 01:17:08,954
Speaker 14: so I'm a lot more concerned with them going forward.

1640
01:17:09,234 --> 01:17:13,074
Speaker 14: And I don't know, like I said, Drake, of course,

1641
01:17:13,154 --> 01:17:16,514
Speaker 14: Drake is fine, but without some type of something from

1642
01:17:16,554 --> 01:17:20,754
Speaker 14: some of those receivers, it just makes me feel It

1643
01:17:20,794 --> 01:17:22,634
Speaker 14: does make me feel like we have the right people

1644
01:17:22,674 --> 01:17:24,514
Speaker 14: in place. But I'm gonna give them a little more

1645
01:17:24,554 --> 01:17:27,874
Speaker 14: time far I started just you know, going on a

1646
01:17:27,914 --> 01:17:29,834
Speaker 14: deep end about him, but I would like to see

1647
01:17:30,154 --> 01:17:32,434
Speaker 14: the rest of the year him type of get some

1648
01:17:32,514 --> 01:17:34,554
Speaker 14: type of development. I want to get away from the Bourne,

1649
01:17:34,634 --> 01:17:36,914
Speaker 14: get away from hunting hand and Henry support. I want

1650
01:17:36,954 --> 01:17:39,034
Speaker 14: to see him developed something with pulp. We got to

1651
01:17:39,074 --> 01:17:41,754
Speaker 14: get that going. If we're going to make anything in

1652
01:17:41,794 --> 01:17:44,034
Speaker 14: the long run, they have to get at least some

1653
01:17:44,114 --> 01:17:46,034
Speaker 14: type of deduction from those receivers so they can get

1654
01:17:46,074 --> 01:17:48,674
Speaker 14: them the same TABE. Yeah, and that's about all I

1655
01:17:48,674 --> 01:17:50,994
Speaker 14: get good stuff.

1656
01:17:51,274 --> 01:17:53,994
Speaker 4: I wonder how things are going in practice with Pope.

1657
01:17:54,794 --> 01:17:57,194
Speaker 4: That's a good question, you know, like does he look

1658
01:17:57,274 --> 01:18:00,234
Speaker 4: better in practice? Is it well? Is you know what

1659
01:18:00,274 --> 01:18:02,314
Speaker 4: you're seeing in practice, what you're seeing in the game.

1660
01:18:03,074 --> 01:18:05,594
Speaker 4: You know, recently, I'd be interested to know that.

1661
01:18:05,674 --> 01:18:06,234
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1662
01:18:06,274 --> 01:18:07,914
Speaker 8: Bourne talked about him a little bit today in the

1663
01:18:07,954 --> 01:18:11,474
Speaker 8: locker room and said, you know, he's got to get

1664
01:18:11,474 --> 01:18:13,754
Speaker 8: out there today and put start stacking a google of practice.

1665
01:18:13,754 --> 01:18:15,674
Speaker 8: But he also said, you know, he came in Monday

1666
01:18:15,714 --> 01:18:17,674
Speaker 8: with me and we lifted together, and you know, I

1667
01:18:17,754 --> 01:18:20,274
Speaker 8: just I think he's got the right mindset, and you know,

1668
01:18:20,434 --> 01:18:22,074
Speaker 8: I mean to be honest, I was a little bit bugged,

1669
01:18:22,114 --> 01:18:23,594
Speaker 8: like when they asked your Rod like do you feel

1670
01:18:23,594 --> 01:18:25,314
Speaker 8: like he's past it? And he's like, yeah, I think'sas So

1671
01:18:25,354 --> 01:18:27,434
Speaker 8: I'm like, why how has he passed it? Like he

1672
01:18:27,514 --> 01:18:31,074
Speaker 8: had another game of no production, which I imagine is

1673
01:18:31,194 --> 01:18:33,274
Speaker 8: continuing to weigh on him.

1674
01:18:33,474 --> 01:18:35,434
Speaker 5: So I'll tell you how I took I agree with you,

1675
01:18:35,554 --> 01:18:39,034
Speaker 5: by the way I took that as well. A couple

1676
01:18:39,074 --> 01:18:41,874
Speaker 5: of weeks ago, I made it really innocuous comment about

1677
01:18:41,954 --> 01:18:45,394
Speaker 5: him maybe having a mental hurdle that he needed to

1678
01:18:45,474 --> 01:18:47,874
Speaker 5: get over and it wasn't taken well by the player.

1679
01:18:48,714 --> 01:18:52,554
Speaker 5: And now he goes out. He's on the field for

1680
01:18:52,674 --> 01:18:55,394
Speaker 5: whatever A handful of snaps couldn't have been too many, Yeah,

1681
01:18:55,434 --> 01:18:56,914
Speaker 5: I don't know off the top of my head. And

1682
01:18:56,994 --> 01:19:00,714
Speaker 5: he gets one target, no catches two penalties. Instead, I'm

1683
01:19:00,754 --> 01:19:02,594
Speaker 5: going to sort of give him a pass for that.

1684
01:19:02,954 --> 01:19:06,154
Speaker 5: I play good cop this week in an effort. I'm

1685
01:19:06,154 --> 01:19:08,114
Speaker 5: not telling you that many it was right or wrong

1686
01:19:08,194 --> 01:19:09,434
Speaker 5: for doing it, but I think that's what he was

1687
01:19:09,474 --> 01:19:09,874
Speaker 5: trying to do.

1688
01:19:09,994 --> 01:19:11,954
Speaker 8: Somebody did on Ei too with that, because I think

1689
01:19:11,954 --> 01:19:14,074
Speaker 8: he was a specifically about those penalties and kind of

1690
01:19:14,074 --> 01:19:15,914
Speaker 8: pushed back on both of them being his fault.

1691
01:19:15,954 --> 01:19:18,954
Speaker 16: So tough, trying to make it work somehow, And I

1692
01:19:19,034 --> 01:19:19,674
Speaker 16: think he's.

1693
01:19:19,434 --> 01:19:22,554
Speaker 5: Making an effort to say, Okay, I offered up what

1694
01:19:22,634 --> 01:19:24,594
Speaker 5: I thought was kind of an innocuous comment and it

1695
01:19:24,634 --> 01:19:27,474
Speaker 5: wasn't taken well. Now I'm going to go the other

1696
01:19:27,514 --> 01:19:30,994
Speaker 5: way and try to you know, now this one, you

1697
01:19:31,034 --> 01:19:33,314
Speaker 5: need to embrace him. We've heard that all off season.

1698
01:19:33,354 --> 01:19:36,514
Speaker 5: You know, you guys struggling a little bit. Let's make

1699
01:19:36,554 --> 01:19:38,314
Speaker 5: sure he knows that we're not giving up on him.

1700
01:19:38,474 --> 01:19:41,234
Speaker 4: It seems to be a lot of okay, backtracking.

1701
01:19:41,874 --> 01:19:43,754
Speaker 5: You always know when Fred's ready on a.

1702
01:19:45,474 --> 01:19:48,954
Speaker 4: It's just this is too much being said, And because

1703
01:19:49,034 --> 01:19:51,274
Speaker 4: too much is being said, there's too much of having

1704
01:19:51,354 --> 01:19:53,714
Speaker 4: to now clean up what was said the next day.

1705
01:19:53,754 --> 01:19:55,634
Speaker 5: Well, there's way too much being said by the players,

1706
01:19:55,674 --> 01:19:57,274
Speaker 5: if you ask me, I don't want to get back

1707
01:19:57,314 --> 01:20:00,714
Speaker 5: into that argument from two weeks ago, but I think

1708
01:20:00,754 --> 01:20:02,154
Speaker 5: everybody's a little too comfortable.

1709
01:20:02,314 --> 01:20:02,754
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1710
01:20:03,274 --> 01:20:03,554
Speaker 20: Uh.

1711
01:20:03,674 --> 01:20:06,514
Speaker 4: Steven Austin says, I love when Carlos call in and

1712
01:20:06,554 --> 01:20:09,034
Speaker 4: there's a lot of background noise and Fred's questions them.

1713
01:20:09,074 --> 01:20:10,754
Speaker 4: I love how he asked them with a straight face,

1714
01:20:10,994 --> 01:20:13,394
Speaker 4: what are you doing flying an airplane? Or the time

1715
01:20:13,434 --> 01:20:15,274
Speaker 4: when Paul asked the guy did he drop his phone

1716
01:20:15,274 --> 01:20:19,914
Speaker 4: in the volcano? My question to you guys is did

1717
01:20:19,914 --> 01:20:23,554
Speaker 4: the receivers get worse every year in the past three years? Also?

1718
01:20:23,714 --> 01:20:26,554
Speaker 4: Was Jacobe Meyers our best receivers in the past five years.

1719
01:20:26,914 --> 01:20:29,034
Speaker 4: I know that we need a true number one, but

1720
01:20:29,234 --> 01:20:31,554
Speaker 4: I don't even think we have a number two that

1721
01:20:31,594 --> 01:20:34,994
Speaker 4: can get open and catch consistently like Myers did. Boy,

1722
01:20:35,074 --> 01:20:37,554
Speaker 4: we could really use a guy like him. Now, I

1723
01:20:37,594 --> 01:20:39,754
Speaker 4: was hearing Pope was supposed to be the guy when

1724
01:20:39,754 --> 01:20:42,554
Speaker 4: we drafted him, but I'm not seeing it anywhere. Also,

1725
01:20:42,554 --> 01:20:45,154
Speaker 4: I was already fired up about Drake Maye from his

1726
01:20:45,194 --> 01:20:47,194
Speaker 4: play in the field, but he had an answer to

1727
01:20:47,194 --> 01:20:49,634
Speaker 4: a question in his press conference about how he's not

1728
01:20:49,714 --> 01:20:52,554
Speaker 4: going to change the player he is and he's gonna

1729
01:20:52,594 --> 01:20:56,594
Speaker 4: make teams pay for dropping out guys, and boy, I

1730
01:20:56,674 --> 01:20:58,514
Speaker 4: was ready to run through a wall for that guy.

1731
01:20:58,874 --> 01:21:01,634
Speaker 4: Never felt like we ever got anything authentic from that

1732
01:21:01,714 --> 01:21:02,634
Speaker 4: from mac Jones.

1733
01:21:04,874 --> 01:21:06,994
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's an element of Drake. I think that's just

1734
01:21:07,034 --> 01:21:10,594
Speaker 8: a little bit more wearing his emotions on.

1735
01:21:10,554 --> 01:21:12,114
Speaker 16: His sleeve, and I'm not kind of telling you what

1736
01:21:12,154 --> 01:21:12,434
Speaker 16: it is.

1737
01:21:12,554 --> 01:21:17,514
Speaker 5: I like him. Mack felt very much that comment, though, No, yeah,

1738
01:21:17,634 --> 01:21:19,474
Speaker 5: I want I like the other comments that he had

1739
01:21:19,514 --> 01:21:23,034
Speaker 5: today more than that about you know, it's the league.

1740
01:21:23,074 --> 01:21:24,834
Speaker 5: You need to you need to throw the ball, you

1741
01:21:24,834 --> 01:21:26,594
Speaker 5: need to be you need to be able to perform

1742
01:21:26,594 --> 01:21:30,074
Speaker 5: in the pocket more conventionally in this league. And that's

1743
01:21:30,354 --> 01:21:32,034
Speaker 5: that's what I want to hear, because I think he

1744
01:21:32,114 --> 01:21:34,034
Speaker 5: knows it. I think he's smart enough already to know

1745
01:21:34,474 --> 01:21:36,994
Speaker 5: I can't do what I did Sunday and every week.

1746
01:21:36,994 --> 01:21:38,994
Speaker 4: The AVP told him that film stuff.

1747
01:21:39,034 --> 01:21:40,034
Speaker 5: But he also knows it.

1748
01:21:40,074 --> 01:21:40,274
Speaker 4: Too.

1749
01:21:41,274 --> 01:21:44,114
Speaker 5: You know, that's how you're going to succeed is being

1750
01:21:44,154 --> 01:21:45,074
Speaker 5: able to throw the ball.

1751
01:21:45,194 --> 01:21:49,994
Speaker 4: But listen, if if on this team, no every no

1752
01:21:50,074 --> 01:21:53,034
Speaker 4: one can get open and you see green Grass take it,

1753
01:21:53,474 --> 01:21:53,754
Speaker 4: take it.

1754
01:21:53,834 --> 01:21:56,354
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would rather have him sit, sit in it

1755
01:21:56,394 --> 01:21:59,634
Speaker 5: and like try to fight through the progression and figure

1756
01:21:59,634 --> 01:22:00,594
Speaker 5: out where he's supposed to go.

1757
01:22:00,714 --> 01:22:02,194
Speaker 4: He's got so much time back there.

1758
01:22:02,274 --> 01:22:05,314
Speaker 5: No, I'm not saying never run. He takes off quickly.

1759
01:22:05,474 --> 01:22:09,474
Speaker 5: A lot he does, and I'm not telling you.

1760
01:22:09,554 --> 01:22:12,114
Speaker 4: Usually it's because the pocket is like this big around.

1761
01:22:12,234 --> 01:22:14,594
Speaker 5: But I don't want to lose that element. I want

1762
01:22:14,674 --> 01:22:17,114
Speaker 5: him to get the other stuff down and then have

1763
01:22:17,274 --> 01:22:18,194
Speaker 5: this in spots.

1764
01:22:18,274 --> 01:22:21,474
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's all. I would prefer that too.

1765
01:22:21,594 --> 01:22:22,754
Speaker 5: I love the athleticism.

1766
01:22:22,834 --> 01:22:23,474
Speaker 4: I would prefer that.

1767
01:22:23,554 --> 01:22:26,514
Speaker 5: I don't really care about the success rate right now,

1768
01:22:27,074 --> 01:22:30,714
Speaker 5: like whether they you know it's the two and seven, Yeah,

1769
01:22:31,154 --> 01:22:33,914
Speaker 5: I think it's much more valuable if on third and

1770
01:22:33,954 --> 01:22:36,714
Speaker 5: sixteen he can sit in the pocket and find a

1771
01:22:36,754 --> 01:22:38,794
Speaker 5: play to make, as opposed to I might be able

1772
01:22:38,794 --> 01:22:41,594
Speaker 5: to run for this. Yeah, well yeah you might.

1773
01:22:41,874 --> 01:22:44,554
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I don't think there's that opportunity to sit in

1774
01:22:44,554 --> 01:22:45,073
Speaker 4: the pocket.

1775
01:22:45,154 --> 01:22:48,434
Speaker 5: Well, that's a problem. That is a problem, and that's

1776
01:22:48,714 --> 01:22:51,874
Speaker 5: why people didn't want to play him. Well, not you

1777
01:22:51,954 --> 01:22:53,113
Speaker 5: and I, not Mike.

1778
01:22:54,714 --> 01:22:58,834
Speaker 4: Nolan in California. I definitely do not want already what

1779
01:23:00,954 --> 01:23:03,554
Speaker 4: I don't want to already look ahead to the off season.

1780
01:23:04,154 --> 01:23:06,754
Speaker 4: I just want to keep enjoying the development of May. However,

1781
01:23:06,794 --> 01:23:09,674
Speaker 4: at two and seven, I'm thinking of how well and

1782
01:23:09,874 --> 01:23:13,954
Speaker 4: fastly he is developing. Next season will be huge, and honestly,

1783
01:23:13,994 --> 01:23:17,434
Speaker 4: I hope we get a wide receiver through free agency. Okay,

1784
01:23:17,754 --> 01:23:18,194
Speaker 4: that's good?

1785
01:23:18,234 --> 01:23:22,554
Speaker 5: Noah, Wow, Freddy's very I have you noticed Freddy's a

1786
01:23:22,554 --> 01:23:23,834
Speaker 5: little dismissive today.

1787
01:23:24,354 --> 01:23:25,954
Speaker 8: Well, because I think he's having trouble getting through all

1788
01:23:25,954 --> 01:23:27,634
Speaker 8: these emails trying to find good ones.

1789
01:23:27,874 --> 01:23:29,994
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of emails.

1790
01:23:31,274 --> 01:23:33,634
Speaker 5: Mike, why don't you read tell over me? There you go,

1791
01:23:35,634 --> 01:23:37,234
Speaker 5: very undertoned, understated.

1792
01:23:37,914 --> 01:23:41,394
Speaker 4: Matt writes in what do you think benefits the Patriot's

1793
01:23:41,394 --> 01:23:44,594
Speaker 4: future more A not winning any more games this year

1794
01:23:44,634 --> 01:23:47,474
Speaker 4: and flipping the number one pick next year into multiple

1795
01:23:47,554 --> 01:23:52,874
Speaker 4: number ones an additional later round picks. Or B winning

1796
01:23:52,874 --> 01:23:55,394
Speaker 4: a few extra games this year and not getting any

1797
01:23:55,434 --> 01:23:59,514
Speaker 4: additional picks, but showing some growth and gaining some confidence. B.

1798
01:24:00,154 --> 01:24:02,994
Speaker 5: Yeah, B for sure, I have a question for the

1799
01:24:03,794 --> 01:24:05,874
Speaker 5: and I don't know the answer to this. Sometimes I'm

1800
01:24:05,874 --> 01:24:07,474
Speaker 5: not a lawyer, so I can ask a question I

1801
01:24:07,474 --> 01:24:12,834
Speaker 5: don't know the answer. To get the number one overall pick,

1802
01:24:12,954 --> 01:24:15,034
Speaker 5: trade down how we get multiple ones?

1803
01:24:15,434 --> 01:24:17,474
Speaker 4: That's why I kind of questioned that when I read.

1804
01:24:17,314 --> 01:24:19,074
Speaker 5: It now, you might be able to get them in

1805
01:24:19,074 --> 01:24:21,594
Speaker 5: future years, right right?

1806
01:24:22,194 --> 01:24:23,594
Speaker 4: Yeah, But like.

1807
01:24:23,594 --> 01:24:25,434
Speaker 5: I think there's this notion like you're trade so I'm

1808
01:24:25,474 --> 01:24:27,354
Speaker 5: gonna give you like two ones for your you know,

1809
01:24:27,914 --> 01:24:29,034
Speaker 5: in a two place here.

1810
01:24:29,354 --> 01:24:31,314
Speaker 4: First of all, they have to have to who is like.

1811
01:24:31,314 --> 01:24:34,154
Speaker 5: And I don't know the answer. I don't know the answer.

1812
01:24:34,234 --> 01:24:34,874
Speaker 5: Who has them?

1813
01:24:35,114 --> 01:24:38,114
Speaker 8: Yeah, we just I don't know. I don't see it

1814
01:24:38,234 --> 01:24:40,354
Speaker 8: this year with that, I don't want the number one

1815
01:24:40,394 --> 01:24:42,034
Speaker 8: overall pick. I think it's gonna be hard to trade.

1816
01:24:42,034 --> 01:24:43,714
Speaker 8: I don't think there's a player that's like that.

1817
01:24:43,714 --> 01:24:46,754
Speaker 5: It seems not not necessarily YETI number one overall pick.

1818
01:24:46,754 --> 01:24:49,314
Speaker 5: Because I do think that the email is right, you

1819
01:24:49,354 --> 01:24:54,354
Speaker 5: probably should be able to get multiple let's say day

1820
01:24:54,394 --> 01:24:56,354
Speaker 5: one slash two picks. You should be able to get

1821
01:24:56,394 --> 01:25:00,234
Speaker 5: another two another maybe a future one, you know, for

1822
01:25:00,314 --> 01:25:03,674
Speaker 5: sliding down a little bit. But if you're asking me

1823
01:25:03,674 --> 01:25:06,314
Speaker 5: what i'd rather have I'd rather have might do so

1824
01:25:06,594 --> 01:25:11,074
Speaker 5: theory of nineteen ninety three. Let's show some some progress here,

1825
01:25:11,394 --> 01:25:13,274
Speaker 5: Let's find a way to win some games, and let's

1826
01:25:13,394 --> 01:25:14,874
Speaker 5: start establishing a winning.

1827
01:25:14,674 --> 01:25:21,514
Speaker 4: Culture that's more valuable. Let's go to Florida, but Toronto.

1828
01:25:21,554 --> 01:25:22,794
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Aaron's there.

1829
01:25:24,434 --> 01:25:28,634
Speaker 21: Hey everyone, I want to make an observation about Drake

1830
01:25:28,754 --> 01:25:32,354
Speaker 21: May and the offensive play calling backed up by real stats.

1831
01:25:33,154 --> 01:25:35,994
Speaker 21: So anecdotally, though, I think Drake looks confident at the

1832
01:25:35,994 --> 01:25:38,994
Speaker 21: line of scrimmage when he's made audibles and he seems

1833
01:25:39,034 --> 01:25:42,594
Speaker 21: to have the quote unquote answers to the test. And

1834
01:25:42,714 --> 01:25:44,874
Speaker 21: the stat to back it up is he hasn't been

1835
01:25:44,874 --> 01:25:47,314
Speaker 21: called for a delayed game yet, and I don't think

1836
01:25:47,354 --> 01:25:50,194
Speaker 21: we've had to use the timeout to prevent being called

1837
01:25:50,194 --> 01:25:53,794
Speaker 21: for delay game. We've seen the over the past couple

1838
01:25:53,794 --> 01:25:56,594
Speaker 21: of weeks that Jets and the Titans burn timeouts and

1839
01:25:56,634 --> 01:25:59,674
Speaker 21: I think being called a couple of times. So it's

1840
01:25:59,714 --> 01:26:02,714
Speaker 21: a nice kind of comparison to see there. Thinks that's

1841
01:26:02,834 --> 01:26:07,634
Speaker 21: very positive sign of Drake's comfort and optimism in his development. Thanks,

1842
01:26:07,714 --> 01:26:08,914
Speaker 21: I'll take it off the air.

1843
01:26:09,154 --> 01:26:13,434
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, some observations from Aaron.

1844
01:26:13,474 --> 01:26:14,554
Speaker 5: You are being maintained.

1845
01:26:14,714 --> 01:26:17,674
Speaker 4: Okay, but guess what.

1846
01:26:19,234 --> 01:26:23,514
Speaker 3: Has returned from practice? Has returned from.

1847
01:26:30,674 --> 01:26:32,394
Speaker 8: Oh boy?

1848
01:26:32,514 --> 01:26:32,954
Speaker 4: Okay?

1849
01:26:34,274 --> 01:26:35,234
Speaker 6: I evn Hello.

1850
01:26:35,554 --> 01:26:40,154
Speaker 4: A quick question before you get into all your observations. Yes,

1851
01:26:40,554 --> 01:26:43,674
Speaker 4: during the game when you were there live, yes on Sunday,

1852
01:26:43,914 --> 01:26:47,113
Speaker 4: did you feel that last throw by May was affected

1853
01:26:47,154 --> 01:26:48,794
Speaker 4: by the win? In real time?

1854
01:26:49,594 --> 01:26:50,674
Speaker 5: He said, yesterday?

1855
01:26:50,754 --> 01:26:51,154
Speaker 4: Oh did he?

1856
01:26:51,514 --> 01:26:51,634
Speaker 3: Uh?

1857
01:26:53,194 --> 01:26:58,314
Speaker 7: In real time? It didn't dawn on me in real time. Uh,

1858
01:26:58,714 --> 01:27:01,674
Speaker 7: definitely saw it on film that it died a little bit.

1859
01:27:01,794 --> 01:27:04,514
Speaker 4: Okay, That's all I wanted to know, because in real

1860
01:27:04,554 --> 01:27:07,874
Speaker 4: time I didn't. That wasn't something that I was thinking about.

1861
01:27:07,914 --> 01:27:07,994
Speaker 22: No.

1862
01:27:08,114 --> 01:27:09,594
Speaker 7: I think the only thing that I thought of in

1863
01:27:09,634 --> 01:27:12,874
Speaker 7: real time was like he underthrew him, like, you know, like,

1864
01:27:13,394 --> 01:27:14,794
Speaker 7: because that's not real time.

1865
01:27:14,794 --> 01:27:16,514
Speaker 4: I was like, you didn't see that, guy, I.

1866
01:27:16,434 --> 01:27:18,874
Speaker 7: Know, I really thought it was underthrown in real time,

1867
01:27:18,914 --> 01:27:20,994
Speaker 7: And I was like, I don't think I've ever seen

1868
01:27:21,074 --> 01:27:21,794
Speaker 7: him underthrow a.

1869
01:27:21,794 --> 01:27:23,994
Speaker 5: Ball, Like I would say, both of those things are accurate.

1870
01:27:24,074 --> 01:27:28,274
Speaker 7: Yeah, like air mailing it, sure, underthrowing it.

1871
01:27:29,034 --> 01:27:32,794
Speaker 4: Okay. Anyways, anyway, more important, I digress. Who's there?

1872
01:27:33,514 --> 01:27:38,154
Speaker 7: So Patriots practice today in a very very sunny, very

1873
01:27:38,234 --> 01:27:44,034
Speaker 7: very warm day at practice unseasonably warm. It was pretty

1874
01:27:44,034 --> 01:27:48,354
Speaker 7: good attendance, but no Kyle Duggar still at Patriots practice

1875
01:27:48,394 --> 01:27:50,994
Speaker 7: dealing with that ankle injury kept him out the last

1876
01:27:51,034 --> 01:27:53,834
Speaker 7: couple of weeks, and a new absence to Michael Hasty

1877
01:27:54,714 --> 01:27:58,914
Speaker 7: was not at Patriots practice today for reasons unknown. So

1878
01:27:58,954 --> 01:28:02,314
Speaker 7: those are your two absences. Everybody else was dressed and

1879
01:28:02,354 --> 01:28:05,314
Speaker 7: accounted for some stuff that we can discuss on the

1880
01:28:05,354 --> 01:28:10,514
Speaker 7: offensive line that had the media grousing, oh grousing, which

1881
01:28:10,514 --> 01:28:15,514
Speaker 7: we do like some more rotation, and it looks like

1882
01:28:16,394 --> 01:28:19,314
Speaker 7: the guards are going to be moved around potentially. Now,

1883
01:28:19,594 --> 01:28:23,674
Speaker 7: I want to just preface this with you know, it's Wednesday.

1884
01:28:23,794 --> 01:28:25,234
Speaker 7: They try out new things all the time.

1885
01:28:25,314 --> 01:28:25,554
Speaker 4: Time.

1886
01:28:25,674 --> 01:28:30,034
Speaker 7: We've seen some weird combinations at practice during our access

1887
01:28:30,074 --> 01:28:32,314
Speaker 7: to practice limited in the season, and then we get

1888
01:28:32,354 --> 01:28:35,234
Speaker 7: out there on Sunday and it's not what we saw

1889
01:28:35,754 --> 01:28:40,034
Speaker 7: on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, So let's not jump to any conclusions.

1890
01:28:40,754 --> 01:28:42,394
Speaker 6: But we did see Mike on went.

1891
01:28:42,234 --> 01:28:46,834
Speaker 7: Who at left guard and Leyden Robinson at right guard

1892
01:28:46,954 --> 01:28:49,834
Speaker 7: for the brief time that we were out there, and

1893
01:28:50,274 --> 01:28:52,674
Speaker 7: left guard Michael Jordan. I mean, I've written about it,

1894
01:28:52,674 --> 01:28:55,594
Speaker 7: everybody's written about it has really kind of dropped off

1895
01:28:55,954 --> 01:28:59,314
Speaker 7: here and between Robinson and so, and then hopefully you

1896
01:28:59,354 --> 01:29:02,994
Speaker 7: get cold strange back eventually too. The thought has crossed

1897
01:29:02,994 --> 01:29:07,114
Speaker 7: my mind of how safe is Michael Jordan's job in

1898
01:29:07,154 --> 01:29:07,994
Speaker 7: the starting lineup?

1899
01:29:08,034 --> 01:29:08,154
Speaker 4: Now.

1900
01:29:08,194 --> 01:29:10,154
Speaker 7: I did not have Michael on Winho moving to the

1901
01:29:10,154 --> 01:29:11,554
Speaker 7: other side on my bingo card.

1902
01:29:11,594 --> 01:29:14,754
Speaker 4: But that's where I say media was grousing about this.

1903
01:29:14,874 --> 01:29:17,674
Speaker 6: A little bit, okay, a little bit left guard.

1904
01:29:17,754 --> 01:29:21,434
Speaker 4: Of all the media members, which media member is most

1905
01:29:21,594 --> 01:29:23,314
Speaker 4: likely to just say all right, I've had enough and

1906
01:29:23,394 --> 01:29:25,594
Speaker 4: walk out on the field and start yelling at the coach.

1907
01:29:26,994 --> 01:29:29,314
Speaker 7: I don't think I don't think anybody would do that.

1908
01:29:29,474 --> 01:29:32,514
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I don't think anybody would do that.

1909
01:29:32,954 --> 01:29:35,834
Speaker 5: But look, I have a couple of people that think

1910
01:29:35,874 --> 01:29:36,874
Speaker 5: that they should do that.

1911
01:29:38,074 --> 01:29:39,834
Speaker 6: I'm staying away from that, but one of them.

1912
01:29:39,714 --> 01:29:41,154
Speaker 5: Wouldn't have been that practice, though.

1913
01:29:41,394 --> 01:29:43,714
Speaker 6: I definitely understand.

1914
01:29:43,754 --> 01:29:47,394
Speaker 7: You know, look, they changed up the offensive line last

1915
01:29:47,394 --> 01:29:50,914
Speaker 7: week seemingly to get Leiden Robinson in there after two

1916
01:29:50,994 --> 01:29:53,394
Speaker 7: okay weeks you know for the group, certainly the two

1917
01:29:53,434 --> 01:29:55,674
Speaker 7: best pass protecting weeks that the group has had all

1918
01:29:55,714 --> 01:29:58,474
Speaker 7: season long. Then they put it in a blender and

1919
01:29:58,514 --> 01:30:01,394
Speaker 7: now you're taking your best offensive lineman and on went

1920
01:30:01,434 --> 01:30:04,314
Speaker 7: who who's played tackle, he's played guard. Now he's going

1921
01:30:04,354 --> 01:30:07,514
Speaker 7: to potentially flip sides to the left side. There's just

1922
01:30:07,594 --> 01:30:10,394
Speaker 7: a lot of moving around for Mike on Wendy right

1923
01:30:10,434 --> 01:30:13,394
Speaker 7: now too. And I'm just you know, my thoughts on it.

1924
01:30:13,754 --> 01:30:16,474
Speaker 7: You just wonder how much he's on board with the

1925
01:30:16,474 --> 01:30:21,034
Speaker 7: fact that they just keep on moving him inside, outside, left, right.

1926
01:30:21,114 --> 01:30:24,274
Speaker 7: You know, it's not exactly a comfortable way to.

1927
01:30:24,194 --> 01:30:27,074
Speaker 4: Look look at the bear. Is there anything going on

1928
01:30:27,194 --> 01:30:29,474
Speaker 4: with their front where you would say, okay, we need

1929
01:30:29,514 --> 01:30:30,274
Speaker 4: to move one when.

1930
01:30:30,234 --> 01:30:30,954
Speaker 16: Year to the left.

1931
01:30:31,074 --> 01:30:32,874
Speaker 7: They have a really good front. I mean their pass

1932
01:30:32,954 --> 01:30:35,994
Speaker 7: rush is really really good. But it's more, you know,

1933
01:30:36,034 --> 01:30:38,434
Speaker 7: Montes sweat on the edge if he does play, didn't

1934
01:30:38,434 --> 01:30:40,314
Speaker 7: play last week, but he likes to rush over the

1935
01:30:40,354 --> 01:30:43,314
Speaker 7: right tackle, So that one I can't really understand. You know,

1936
01:30:43,754 --> 01:30:45,314
Speaker 7: I don't really see them as a team like a

1937
01:30:45,394 --> 01:30:48,034
Speaker 7: Jeffrey Simmons or something like that on the inside that

1938
01:30:48,794 --> 01:30:52,074
Speaker 7: is going to necessarily draw a matchup like that. But

1939
01:30:52,914 --> 01:30:55,514
Speaker 7: you know, in pass protection, you always want to put

1940
01:30:55,554 --> 01:30:57,954
Speaker 7: your best guys on the blind side of the quarterback,

1941
01:30:57,994 --> 01:31:01,234
Speaker 7: and that includes that guard as well as tackle, So

1942
01:31:01,874 --> 01:31:03,954
Speaker 7: that that could be the thought process. But again, I

1943
01:31:04,034 --> 01:31:05,874
Speaker 7: just want to put it out there that this does

1944
01:31:05,914 --> 01:31:07,754
Speaker 7: not mean that this is going to be the starting

1945
01:31:07,794 --> 01:31:08,914
Speaker 7: line on Sunday.

1946
01:31:09,074 --> 01:31:12,954
Speaker 4: So we'll see, okay. And you said it was unseasonably warm,

1947
01:31:13,114 --> 01:31:15,434
Speaker 4: yet they were in pads today, correct.

1948
01:31:15,114 --> 01:31:19,234
Speaker 7: Full pads, full pads Wednesdays, and they were, yeah, it was,

1949
01:31:19,394 --> 01:31:22,154
Speaker 7: I mean it was. It was warm, like it was

1950
01:31:22,234 --> 01:31:26,074
Speaker 7: seventy seventy five degrees like bright, bright sun right on you.

1951
01:31:26,874 --> 01:31:29,674
Speaker 6: A little windy, little wind, but it was warm.

1952
01:31:30,034 --> 01:31:30,394
Speaker 4: Okay.

1953
01:31:30,474 --> 01:31:32,114
Speaker 16: You said it was Robinson back on the right.

1954
01:31:31,954 --> 01:31:35,194
Speaker 7: Side, Robinson at right guard, who they they seem to

1955
01:31:36,114 --> 01:31:40,194
Speaker 7: obviously have some sort of infatuation with, And we all

1956
01:31:40,234 --> 01:31:40,754
Speaker 7: went back.

1957
01:31:40,634 --> 01:31:41,354
Speaker 6: And forth on it.

1958
01:31:41,434 --> 01:31:45,274
Speaker 7: And I understand that he's a young player, rookie that

1959
01:31:45,634 --> 01:31:48,234
Speaker 7: you like, that you're trying to develop, and you're trying

1960
01:31:48,234 --> 01:31:50,074
Speaker 7: to see what you have and as a two win

1961
01:31:50,154 --> 01:31:52,194
Speaker 7: football team, like that's sort of the types of things

1962
01:31:52,234 --> 01:31:54,394
Speaker 7: you should be doing. But at the same time, he

1963
01:31:54,434 --> 01:31:57,073
Speaker 7: gets in there and he really really struggles in pass protection,

1964
01:31:57,194 --> 01:31:59,354
Speaker 7: and you don't want to get Drake May killed. So

1965
01:31:59,394 --> 01:32:01,954
Speaker 7: it's it's a tight rope that you're walking by having

1966
01:32:02,034 --> 01:32:04,754
Speaker 7: him play so much. I would say until he's ready,

1967
01:32:04,914 --> 01:32:05,114
Speaker 7: and I.

1968
01:32:05,074 --> 01:32:05,954
Speaker 16: Don't think you's.

1969
01:32:06,314 --> 01:32:07,834
Speaker 8: We haven't seen him at left guard ever, have we.

1970
01:32:08,354 --> 01:32:09,674
Speaker 8: I mean I remember him right guard right now.

1971
01:32:09,714 --> 01:32:12,394
Speaker 7: Yes, So he played left guard in twenty twenty one.

1972
01:32:13,114 --> 01:32:15,674
Speaker 7: That's how they because they had Shaq Mason still at

1973
01:32:15,914 --> 01:32:19,354
Speaker 7: right guard in twenty one in Max rookie season, they

1974
01:32:19,394 --> 01:32:22,354
Speaker 7: tried on out at left guard. Think after they let

1975
01:32:22,434 --> 01:32:26,714
Speaker 7: Joe Toney leave in free agency and Ted Carris ended

1976
01:32:26,754 --> 01:32:29,674
Speaker 7: up replacing him in the starting lineup that year because

1977
01:32:29,674 --> 01:32:32,314
Speaker 7: he struggled at left guard and then Carris came in

1978
01:32:32,474 --> 01:32:36,674
Speaker 7: and that was the line Carris andrews Shaq Mason for

1979
01:32:36,714 --> 01:32:38,674
Speaker 7: the rest of the season, and that's you know, kind

1980
01:32:38,674 --> 01:32:41,594
Speaker 7: of when they jelled and came together. Was on went

1981
01:32:41,634 --> 01:32:43,594
Speaker 7: on when he went to the bench. So his one

1982
01:32:43,634 --> 01:32:45,754
Speaker 7: stint that left guard back in twenty one did not

1983
01:32:45,834 --> 01:32:46,474
Speaker 7: go very well.

1984
01:32:46,634 --> 01:32:48,714
Speaker 8: Okay, do you go to a new place today, Fred?

1985
01:32:48,714 --> 01:32:50,594
Speaker 8: It seems like it takes a little longer you go

1986
01:32:50,634 --> 01:32:51,314
Speaker 8: off the beaten path.

1987
01:32:51,594 --> 01:32:55,034
Speaker 4: I think they try to place called pizza time. Oh yeah, Well,

1988
01:32:56,714 --> 01:33:00,314
Speaker 4: now that the media is back together, any Nashville stories

1989
01:33:00,394 --> 01:33:00,754
Speaker 4: from the.

1990
01:33:00,714 --> 01:33:03,834
Speaker 7: Media, No, none, none that I can share on the air.

1991
01:33:03,914 --> 01:33:04,394
Speaker 6: I don't think.

1992
01:33:04,434 --> 01:33:09,434
Speaker 7: Oh they're always stories. Okay, they're always stories, all right?

1993
01:33:09,554 --> 01:33:11,114
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, who.

1994
01:33:11,434 --> 01:33:14,154
Speaker 4: Well, who do you think is a media member most

1995
01:33:14,234 --> 01:33:15,714
Speaker 4: likely to get in trouble on the road.

1996
01:33:15,834 --> 01:33:17,634
Speaker 7: You're trying to get me in trouble right now, is

1997
01:33:17,674 --> 01:33:18,594
Speaker 7: all you're trying to do.

1998
01:33:19,834 --> 01:33:22,994
Speaker 4: I mean, people like to know what are media contingents like,

1999
01:33:23,914 --> 01:33:25,874
Speaker 4: you know, because a lot of people they either read

2000
01:33:25,874 --> 01:33:27,874
Speaker 4: the globe with a herald or they listen to they

2001
01:33:27,914 --> 01:33:31,114
Speaker 4: don't know the whole scope of the media contingent.

2002
01:33:31,994 --> 01:33:33,674
Speaker 6: You know, everybody's very well behind.

2003
01:33:33,834 --> 01:33:35,874
Speaker 8: I think, yeah, I would say, like not even trying

2004
01:33:35,874 --> 01:33:38,394
Speaker 8: to avoid any I think it's a pretty straight laced group.

2005
01:33:38,474 --> 01:33:39,634
Speaker 16: I don't think there's gonna.

2006
01:33:43,034 --> 01:33:46,594
Speaker 4: He's got this big music thing. He's always gone big concert,

2007
01:33:47,034 --> 01:33:48,394
Speaker 4: body surfing and all that.

2008
01:33:48,794 --> 01:33:50,674
Speaker 8: Such a thing about Mike said, maybe a lot of

2009
01:33:50,834 --> 01:33:55,154
Speaker 8: listeners don't know that along with excellent Patriots coverage, he

2010
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Speaker 8: loves live music. Well, no one you've ever seen before,

2011
01:33:57,794 --> 01:34:00,034
Speaker 8: except for maybe No Socks. Those two they're like peas

2012
01:34:00,034 --> 01:34:00,394
Speaker 8: in a pod.

2013
01:34:00,474 --> 01:34:01,674
Speaker 5: Well, they go to a lot of them together.

2014
01:34:01,954 --> 01:34:03,234
Speaker 8: Well, we were when we were in Vegas a couple

2015
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Speaker 8: of summers ago.

2016
01:34:03,754 --> 01:34:04,954
Speaker 16: I remember we had dinner.

2017
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Speaker 8: At that terrible place oh yeah, we had like a

2018
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Speaker 8: big lunch or we had big dinner. Of course, tons

2019
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2020
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Speaker 8: random like just a random little person playing not in person.

2021
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Speaker 16: The band playing.

2022
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2023
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2024
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2025
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2026
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Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, think just this week Caleb Williams be able

2064
01:36:37,954 --> 01:36:40,474
Speaker 22: to do a lot. How much time did you spend

2065
01:36:40,474 --> 01:36:42,554
Speaker 22: when you look back on it with Caleb and j

2066
01:36:43,114 --> 01:36:45,594
Speaker 22: the whole process of the spring and how do you

2067
01:36:45,634 --> 01:36:46,314
Speaker 22: look back on that?

2068
01:36:46,474 --> 01:36:48,154
Speaker 4: Was it a WorldWind? What was it like for you?

2069
01:36:48,594 --> 01:36:48,794
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2070
01:36:48,794 --> 01:36:51,114
Speaker 26: I think you know both as rookies, you know, coming

2071
01:36:51,114 --> 01:36:52,994
Speaker 26: out as quarterbacks, you spend a lot of time with

2072
01:36:53,034 --> 01:36:56,514
Speaker 26: those guys. We see him someone someone visits some at

2073
01:36:56,514 --> 01:36:59,114
Speaker 26: the combine. Really with Caleb, I've seen him since high school,

2074
01:36:59,154 --> 01:37:01,914
Speaker 26: you know, going to the same camps, was at the

2075
01:37:01,994 --> 01:37:05,234
Speaker 26: lead level with each other. We got some college visits together,

2076
01:37:05,314 --> 01:37:08,474
Speaker 26: so kind of the whole thing, kind of going through

2077
01:37:08,714 --> 01:37:10,714
Speaker 26: the process again. You know, we cut up with each

2078
01:37:10,714 --> 01:37:13,754
Speaker 26: other in college. You know, we were friends and and uh,

2079
01:37:13,834 --> 01:37:15,874
Speaker 26: you know, enjoyed watching him do his thing. And now

2080
01:37:15,874 --> 01:37:18,394
Speaker 26: I'll get a chance to compete. So you know, anytime

2081
01:37:18,434 --> 01:37:21,194
Speaker 26: you're going east to rookie quarterback and in the same class,

2082
01:37:21,754 --> 01:37:23,594
Speaker 26: or any quarterback in your class in general, you know,

2083
01:37:23,634 --> 01:37:26,234
Speaker 26: it's it's a little extra. So well, looking forward to

2084
01:37:26,234 --> 01:37:28,194
Speaker 26: going out there and getting a chance to you'll play

2085
01:37:28,234 --> 01:37:30,354
Speaker 26: the Bears, or how all these.

2086
01:37:30,314 --> 01:37:32,474
Speaker 4: Guys are doing throw up or how well have you

2087
01:37:32,554 --> 01:37:35,914
Speaker 4: mind it? Or how these steps are doing.

2088
01:37:37,034 --> 01:37:38,554
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think the biggest things you see him on

2089
01:37:38,554 --> 01:37:40,474
Speaker 26: the film. You know, I'm just watching Jayden play the

2090
01:37:40,474 --> 01:37:43,474
Speaker 26: Bears defense and and watching these teams, and I think

2091
01:37:43,514 --> 01:37:44,874
Speaker 26: that's it's pretty cool. I think you see some of

2092
01:37:44,874 --> 01:37:46,874
Speaker 26: the highlight plays, and but I think the biggest thing

2093
01:37:46,914 --> 01:37:49,514
Speaker 26: to see how the overall teams doing. And uh, that's

2094
01:37:49,514 --> 01:37:51,714
Speaker 26: the main goal for you know, really all the spookys

2095
01:37:51,754 --> 01:37:54,314
Speaker 26: and in this classes you'll put wins win calumn and

2096
01:37:55,194 --> 01:37:56,354
Speaker 26: you know, if we get no chance to do that

2097
01:37:56,394 --> 01:37:58,354
Speaker 26: and we got to, we'll get some more in that column.

2098
01:37:58,674 --> 01:38:01,554
Speaker 26: That's the most impressive thing that Kiel does on the field,

2099
01:38:01,594 --> 01:38:03,394
Speaker 26: knowing his game as well as you do see him.

2100
01:38:03,514 --> 01:38:04,714
Speaker 3: Knowing him for so long.

2101
01:38:05,074 --> 01:38:09,154
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think just the play is never over with Caleb.

2102
01:38:09,234 --> 01:38:11,274
Speaker 26: That's the biggest thing. And also I think it's his

2103
01:38:11,394 --> 01:38:15,714
Speaker 26: talent of throwing, making difficult throws, you know them kind

2104
01:38:15,714 --> 01:38:17,514
Speaker 26: of kind of the normal, you know, the regular eye

2105
01:38:17,514 --> 01:38:19,394
Speaker 26: if your quarterback you kind of see like Man's that's

2106
01:38:19,394 --> 01:38:21,594
Speaker 26: a good throw. I think, you know, watching one week

2107
01:38:21,714 --> 01:38:23,554
Speaker 26: he's played the Jaguar of this year. He get Keithan

2108
01:38:23,554 --> 01:38:25,674
Speaker 26: Allen kind of on a little seam, you know, back shoulder.

2109
01:38:26,154 --> 01:38:28,034
Speaker 26: You see those like that, and like you kind of

2110
01:38:28,474 --> 01:38:30,554
Speaker 26: you take that for granted. You know, he's just so talented,

2111
01:38:30,554 --> 01:38:33,274
Speaker 26: and I think just kind of getting through to like

2112
01:38:33,314 --> 01:38:35,554
Speaker 26: I said, I get to know him and seeing compete

2113
01:38:35,554 --> 01:38:36,834
Speaker 26: and you know, we never played each other, so his

2114
01:38:36,874 --> 01:38:37,914
Speaker 26: first time, so it'll be pretty cool.

2115
01:38:38,714 --> 01:38:40,514
Speaker 20: It's been a few days, so you've got a chance

2116
01:38:40,554 --> 01:38:42,674
Speaker 20: to really look at the film and reflecting that last

2117
01:38:42,674 --> 01:38:46,634
Speaker 20: play and regulation in the game on Sunday. And if so,

2118
01:38:46,754 --> 01:38:49,074
Speaker 20: what did you see different from what you were actually

2119
01:38:49,114 --> 01:38:50,754
Speaker 20: feeling at the time trying to move?

2120
01:38:51,474 --> 01:38:53,354
Speaker 26: Yeah, you know they pop cover two and you know

2121
01:38:53,354 --> 01:38:55,194
Speaker 26: I had Hunter. You know, within the first couple of

2122
01:38:55,194 --> 01:38:57,074
Speaker 26: seconds of the play, I could have made it a

2123
01:38:57,074 --> 01:38:59,954
Speaker 26: lot of easier in the back end zone. So arn

2124
01:39:00,034 --> 01:39:01,594
Speaker 26: not just making a playing keep play a love, but

2125
01:39:01,794 --> 01:39:04,114
Speaker 26: really probably just more you no matter myself for not

2126
01:39:04,274 --> 01:39:06,794
Speaker 26: having making the play, having to play a lot less stressful.

2127
01:39:07,674 --> 01:39:08,554
Speaker 14: Said, he looked at you.

2128
01:39:08,754 --> 01:39:10,314
Speaker 5: Because he had a bound.

2129
01:39:10,394 --> 01:39:11,674
Speaker 3: If you give you a look.

2130
01:39:11,754 --> 01:39:14,594
Speaker 5: Like, don't you a fall exactly?

2131
01:39:16,234 --> 01:39:16,594
Speaker 4: I did?

2132
01:39:16,754 --> 01:39:17,874
Speaker 10: What was that look like?

2133
01:39:18,034 --> 01:39:19,274
Speaker 15: And what's that.

2134
01:39:19,234 --> 01:39:22,274
Speaker 26: Communication Like, Yeah, I think it's a better re move.

2135
01:39:22,394 --> 01:39:24,354
Speaker 26: You know, he's kind of waving in the back. I

2136
01:39:24,474 --> 01:39:26,634
Speaker 26: saw him before, you know, I saw Madre kind of

2137
01:39:26,634 --> 01:39:28,594
Speaker 26: peel back at the end. But uh, now we were

2138
01:39:28,594 --> 01:39:31,674
Speaker 26: just laughing after the game about it. Those are the

2139
01:39:31,714 --> 01:39:34,514
Speaker 26: things that you remember, you know, looking back in twenty years,

2140
01:39:34,554 --> 01:39:37,314
Speaker 26: remember play like that. So it was a it was

2141
01:39:37,314 --> 01:39:39,794
Speaker 26: a veteran move. And also just I think somebody told

2142
01:39:39,834 --> 01:39:42,474
Speaker 26: him take hi knee, maybe coach McNeill said taking knee

2143
01:39:42,474 --> 01:39:44,193
Speaker 26: instead of you know, waving like he's open.

2144
01:39:44,034 --> 01:39:45,874
Speaker 18: So understand it.

2145
01:39:46,194 --> 01:39:47,274
Speaker 4: Yeah, I figured nobody.

2146
01:39:47,394 --> 01:39:49,834
Speaker 26: Nobody was guarding him, guarding him, so I figured he

2147
01:39:49,914 --> 01:39:53,154
Speaker 26: probably had stepped out of bounds. So uh, just just

2148
01:39:53,234 --> 01:39:54,514
Speaker 26: lucky we end up scoring.

2149
01:39:54,194 --> 01:39:55,154
Speaker 16: And forcing overtime.

2150
01:39:55,314 --> 01:39:58,274
Speaker 24: Drake character or starts now with you're looking to improve

2151
01:39:58,314 --> 01:39:58,634
Speaker 24: on and what.

2152
01:39:58,634 --> 01:39:59,754
Speaker 3: Do you think you can do better?

2153
01:40:00,114 --> 01:40:01,074
Speaker 5: Yeah, affect the football.

2154
01:40:01,114 --> 01:40:01,794
Speaker 26: That's the biggest thing.

2155
01:40:02,234 --> 01:40:02,594
Speaker 16: I think.

2156
01:40:03,154 --> 01:40:05,314
Speaker 26: You know, there's times where you know my decision making

2157
01:40:05,394 --> 01:40:07,554
Speaker 26: and you know whether it's ball scary in the pocket,

2158
01:40:07,554 --> 01:40:09,594
Speaker 26: and you know, knowing when that timer goes off of

2159
01:40:09,634 --> 01:40:12,754
Speaker 26: my head. You know, little things like that, and other

2160
01:40:12,794 --> 01:40:15,194
Speaker 26: than that, just taking taking the right play I think

2161
01:40:15,274 --> 01:40:17,834
Speaker 26: is the biggest thing you're taken incompletion that last you know,

2162
01:40:17,834 --> 01:40:20,714
Speaker 26: it's first down, known situation, or at a third down

2163
01:40:20,834 --> 01:40:23,634
Speaker 26: and around midfield the first interception I threw. You know,

2164
01:40:23,794 --> 01:40:25,994
Speaker 26: I think sometimes the punt's not that not the worst

2165
01:40:25,994 --> 01:40:27,914
Speaker 26: thing there, you know, or maybe you go try to

2166
01:40:27,954 --> 01:40:29,714
Speaker 26: make a play a check down and kind of get

2167
01:40:29,714 --> 01:40:31,674
Speaker 26: a broken tackle and pick up the first so kind

2168
01:40:31,674 --> 01:40:33,554
Speaker 26: of knowing the situationally, it ca almost the best play

2169
01:40:33,594 --> 01:40:36,234
Speaker 26: for this football team instead of kind of you know,

2170
01:40:36,354 --> 01:40:38,794
Speaker 26: kind of being as aggressive in certain situations. I think

2171
01:40:38,834 --> 01:40:41,234
Speaker 26: you're growing that and storing these in your situations and

2172
01:40:41,274 --> 01:40:44,554
Speaker 26: these these uh kind of in my in my memory

2173
01:40:44,554 --> 01:40:46,634
Speaker 26: bank for times when hey, you know I did this

2174
01:40:46,714 --> 01:40:49,074
Speaker 26: last time. Maybe try a different thing, or maybe try

2175
01:40:49,074 --> 01:40:51,394
Speaker 26: to be more conservative, and I kind of know when

2176
01:40:51,434 --> 01:40:54,234
Speaker 26: to attack these football teams because I'm gonna be aggressive

2177
01:40:54,274 --> 01:40:55,194
Speaker 26: that kind kind.

2178
01:40:55,074 --> 01:40:57,394
Speaker 3: Of over again.

2179
01:40:59,754 --> 01:41:02,474
Speaker 26: Yeah, No, it's cool. You know, I grew up, you know,

2180
01:41:02,554 --> 01:41:04,874
Speaker 26: my older brother Luke and Mason you were best friends

2181
01:41:04,874 --> 01:41:08,474
Speaker 26: and got a It was pretty coul having U kind

2182
01:41:08,474 --> 01:41:11,314
Speaker 26: of an older kind of friend that kind of went

2183
01:41:11,314 --> 01:41:14,554
Speaker 26: through the quarterback, you know from he's from South Charlotte,

2184
01:41:14,594 --> 01:41:16,634
Speaker 26: was in South Carolina kind of rock Hill area. But uh,

2185
01:41:16,714 --> 01:41:19,794
Speaker 26: going off to college and going into the combine, going

2186
01:41:19,794 --> 01:41:21,354
Speaker 26: to the drafts kind of had a guy I kind

2187
01:41:21,354 --> 01:41:23,674
Speaker 26: of looked up to to kind of ask questions and

2188
01:41:24,034 --> 01:41:25,994
Speaker 26: ask about the quarterback world that I knew on a

2189
01:41:25,994 --> 01:41:28,194
Speaker 26: personal level. So it was it was awesome having a

2190
01:41:28,274 --> 01:41:30,274
Speaker 26: guy like Mason that kind of shifted into Sam once

2191
01:41:30,314 --> 01:41:32,514
Speaker 26: I got to North Carolina. But it was definitely a

2192
01:41:32,554 --> 01:41:35,114
Speaker 26: pretty cool moment playing Mason and and have them growing up.

2193
01:41:35,154 --> 01:41:37,394
Speaker 26: And I remember being you know, five and six years

2194
01:41:37,434 --> 01:41:39,834
Speaker 26: old and he was a teenager and playing quarterback in

2195
01:41:39,874 --> 01:41:41,474
Speaker 26: the backyard. He was throwing me the football, So it

2196
01:41:41,514 --> 01:41:46,514
Speaker 26: was pretty cool. No, it's not not toll yeahs not

2197
01:41:46,594 --> 01:41:50,994
Speaker 26: toall defense. Yeah, I think I think it's the other

2198
01:41:51,034 --> 01:41:53,194
Speaker 26: Bears defense. I think they're always gonna be you know, physical,

2199
01:41:53,434 --> 01:41:55,594
Speaker 26: physical defense. You know, the good up front, have some

2200
01:41:55,634 --> 01:41:58,354
Speaker 26: good edge guys. Again, so like every d line's got

2201
01:41:58,354 --> 01:42:00,634
Speaker 26: some good guys in the edge, but I got some

2202
01:42:00,794 --> 01:42:02,434
Speaker 26: you know, they're gonna go after the football that we

2203
01:42:02,434 --> 01:42:05,034
Speaker 26: were preaching ball security and you know, play a lot

2204
01:42:05,034 --> 01:42:07,154
Speaker 26: of zone, so I think we're gonna have to You'll

2205
01:42:07,154 --> 01:42:10,034
Speaker 26: find find times and in zone coverage where we gotta

2206
01:42:10,154 --> 01:42:12,994
Speaker 26: find guys open and I kind of make guys uh

2207
01:42:13,354 --> 01:42:15,394
Speaker 26: like yards after the catch and then they're gonna sprinkle

2208
01:42:15,394 --> 01:42:16,994
Speaker 26: on some man, so win them one on ones. But

2209
01:42:17,154 --> 01:42:19,034
Speaker 26: I think they're good up fronts think Edmonds in the

2210
01:42:19,074 --> 01:42:21,714
Speaker 26: middle is a good player. And on the edge, like

2211
01:42:21,714 --> 01:42:24,794
Speaker 26: I said, they got Montes so and you know, lockdown corn.

2212
01:42:24,794 --> 01:42:26,594
Speaker 26: In this league, it you got to be mindful of.

2213
01:42:26,714 --> 01:42:29,274
Speaker 26: So they can do a lot of different things. And

2214
01:42:29,314 --> 01:42:31,074
Speaker 26: I think they they've played some good defense this year,

2215
01:42:31,114 --> 01:42:32,754
Speaker 26: so we got to We've got a tough challenge.

2216
01:42:33,194 --> 01:42:35,754
Speaker 20: With a bunch of erg What would you say in

2217
01:42:35,794 --> 01:42:38,274
Speaker 20: the biggest areas and for the first five.

2218
01:42:38,074 --> 01:42:40,474
Speaker 7: Stars, where you feel like what you put on tape

2219
01:42:40,474 --> 01:42:42,594
Speaker 7: and where you said, okay, I've gotten better in this

2220
01:42:42,714 --> 01:42:46,474
Speaker 7: area incrementally you go through the first ye starts.

2221
01:42:47,834 --> 01:42:49,874
Speaker 26: I think my you know, my first and second down.

2222
01:42:49,954 --> 01:42:51,994
Speaker 26: You know, decision makings I think been big. I think

2223
01:42:52,594 --> 01:42:54,754
Speaker 26: where it's run checks or you know, one high two

2224
01:42:54,794 --> 01:42:57,073
Speaker 26: high stuff, different things that we're getting in out of plays.

2225
01:42:57,674 --> 01:42:58,754
Speaker 5: Be proud of the way that you.

2226
01:42:58,674 --> 01:43:00,714
Speaker 26: Know, I feel like I've done well. And it's perhaps

2227
01:43:00,714 --> 01:43:03,194
Speaker 26: to TC in the quarterback room of what he does

2228
01:43:03,234 --> 01:43:05,274
Speaker 26: and preparing us in the quarterback room of being ready

2229
01:43:05,314 --> 01:43:07,794
Speaker 26: and really and that thing, you know, making some plays.

2230
01:43:07,834 --> 01:43:09,594
Speaker 26: I think that's part of my game and I'm proud of,

2231
01:43:09,714 --> 01:43:12,034
Speaker 26: you know, sometimes extending some plays and taking plays with

2232
01:43:12,074 --> 01:43:14,194
Speaker 26: my feet and picking up a first down on third

2233
01:43:14,234 --> 01:43:16,274
Speaker 26: down with my feet can go along way with with

2234
01:43:16,314 --> 01:43:19,314
Speaker 26: an offense. So looking forward to hopefully helping do some

2235
01:43:19,354 --> 01:43:21,554
Speaker 26: more of that, and you do a better job of

2236
01:43:21,554 --> 01:43:23,474
Speaker 26: finding these guys you know, open and let them do

2237
01:43:23,514 --> 01:43:23,834
Speaker 26: their thing.

2238
01:43:24,354 --> 01:43:25,074
Speaker 4: We can make it please.

2239
01:43:25,594 --> 01:43:27,994
Speaker 5: I notice you conferred to a bunch of long yardage situations.

2240
01:43:28,114 --> 01:43:30,514
Speaker 5: I was wondering to those kinds of get long yardage?

2241
01:43:30,634 --> 01:43:32,474
Speaker 2: Is it more instinctive when you want or are you saying,

2242
01:43:32,474 --> 01:43:33,874
Speaker 2: you know what, They're just gonna drop all the way

2243
01:43:33,914 --> 01:43:35,434
Speaker 2: back and I see an opening I'm just gonna take.

2244
01:43:35,594 --> 01:43:37,474
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think it's more instinctive things to kind of

2245
01:43:37,474 --> 01:43:40,314
Speaker 26: feel back there. Obviously, you know, I'm I'm a pastor first,

2246
01:43:40,434 --> 01:43:41,834
Speaker 26: you know, I want to be a pastor in this league,

2247
01:43:41,914 --> 01:43:43,994
Speaker 26: and you got to be a pastor in this lead

2248
01:43:44,034 --> 01:43:46,314
Speaker 26: to be successful. And I'm trying to find these guys

2249
01:43:46,314 --> 01:43:48,754
Speaker 26: and when they're dropping, you know, when they're dropping seven

2250
01:43:48,794 --> 01:43:50,994
Speaker 26: and rushing four and there's some rush lanes and they're

2251
01:43:51,154 --> 01:43:53,914
Speaker 26: you know, the Titans had kind of a deepest mentality

2252
01:43:53,954 --> 01:43:56,034
Speaker 26: to sit back and zone and kind of everybody's looking

2253
01:43:56,034 --> 01:43:58,394
Speaker 26: at me. I'm like, yeah, go make a play. So

2254
01:43:58,434 --> 01:44:00,674
Speaker 26: I think there's different times and times, and man, we've

2255
01:44:00,674 --> 01:44:02,514
Speaker 26: got guys running away that you can kind of make

2256
01:44:02,554 --> 01:44:04,274
Speaker 26: some scrambled plays. But you know, I'm trying to be

2257
01:44:04,274 --> 01:44:07,634
Speaker 26: a pastor first and help these guys pick up the

2258
01:44:07,634 --> 01:44:08,074
Speaker 26: first downs.

2259
01:44:08,234 --> 01:44:09,194
Speaker 5: So thank you.

2260
01:44:15,314 --> 01:44:17,554
Speaker 6: And now great moments in.

2261
01:44:19,674 --> 01:44:22,114
Speaker 4: History? How are we gonna do this? Who's gonna go first?

2262
01:44:22,434 --> 01:44:22,834
Speaker 4: I have it?

2263
01:44:22,994 --> 01:44:26,834
Speaker 5: Mike, alex Evan, Paul frank I alex Evan, Paul fred

2264
01:44:27,874 --> 01:44:28,314
Speaker 5: How's that?

2265
01:44:29,434 --> 01:44:30,234
Speaker 6: What's clockwise?

2266
01:44:30,714 --> 01:44:32,274
Speaker 4: Mike Evan?

2267
01:44:32,434 --> 01:44:41,754
Speaker 6: It goes the way of the clock. I haven't, y boomer.

2268
01:44:41,994 --> 01:44:44,674
Speaker 4: I look at my phone hand.

2269
01:44:45,274 --> 01:44:46,034
Speaker 6: In your apartment.

2270
01:44:46,354 --> 01:44:53,194
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from.

2271
01:44:50,754 --> 01:44:53,274
Speaker 4: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered eight five five

2272
01:44:53,314 --> 01:44:57,394
Speaker 4: past five hundred, it's Evan, Paul, Me, Deuce, Matt and

2273
01:44:57,394 --> 01:45:01,754
Speaker 4: the Booth talk to Patriots. Our last segment. Not that

2274
01:45:01,794 --> 01:45:03,994
Speaker 4: we have a lot of segments, but they only have two.

2275
01:45:04,154 --> 01:45:05,794
Speaker 5: Usually talk about once.

2276
01:45:09,914 --> 01:45:11,794
Speaker 4: I was gonna say something coming out of the break,

2277
01:45:11,834 --> 01:45:13,514
Speaker 4: and I forget what it was, all right, So I'll

2278
01:45:13,554 --> 01:45:15,714
Speaker 4: just go to the I'll just go to the calls.

2279
01:45:15,434 --> 01:45:17,314
Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, it'll come to you.

2280
01:45:17,474 --> 01:45:20,274
Speaker 4: Yeah, go back to the TPX outline. Let's go to

2281
01:45:20,314 --> 01:45:28,914
Speaker 4: Brad in Ohio. What's up Brad, Brad? He's gone okay,

2282
01:45:29,034 --> 01:45:32,554
Speaker 4: No Brad. How about Dennis and Boston? What's up Dennis?

2283
01:45:35,074 --> 01:45:39,514
Speaker 11: How's it going good? Before I get to my main point,

2284
01:45:39,954 --> 01:45:42,594
Speaker 11: I have a comment for for Paul. I gotta tell

2285
01:45:42,594 --> 01:45:44,314
Speaker 11: you you're in on it a little bit too. I

2286
01:45:44,354 --> 01:45:47,714
Speaker 11: love the Seinfeld I think they're a lot more common

2287
01:45:47,754 --> 01:45:49,114
Speaker 11: than people realize on the show.

2288
01:45:49,754 --> 01:45:50,874
Speaker 16: Had a good one today off air.

2289
01:45:50,954 --> 01:45:54,154
Speaker 5: Keep them up, Fred, Fred's a big Seinfeld guy.

2290
01:45:54,554 --> 01:45:56,874
Speaker 11: Yeah, oh Fred, good, that's true.

2291
01:45:56,914 --> 01:45:57,434
Speaker 10: I have heard you.

2292
01:45:57,754 --> 01:45:59,034
Speaker 4: I discovered Seinfeld.

2293
01:45:59,034 --> 01:46:00,154
Speaker 5: He did.

2294
01:46:01,394 --> 01:46:04,073
Speaker 11: The guy Seinfeld that you Okay?

2295
01:46:04,354 --> 01:46:04,674
Speaker 4: All right?

2296
01:46:06,114 --> 01:46:07,994
Speaker 7: I feel like Fred could have been on Seinfeld.

2297
01:46:09,474 --> 01:46:10,074
Speaker 4: Got that right.

2298
01:46:10,194 --> 01:46:11,634
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got that kind of character.

2299
01:46:12,954 --> 01:46:15,834
Speaker 11: He got that right. And also, Paul, I don't know

2300
01:46:15,834 --> 01:46:18,634
Speaker 11: if you know this, Kirkman and thinks very highly of you.

2301
01:46:18,714 --> 01:46:20,874
Speaker 11: He hates pretty much everyone, And he said the other

2302
01:46:20,954 --> 01:46:23,234
Speaker 11: day Paul Barulo was a very nice guy. One of

2303
01:46:23,314 --> 01:46:25,834
Speaker 11: the only guys who was ever nice to be treating

2304
01:46:25,874 --> 01:46:28,514
Speaker 11: me normally. I like, thinks very.

2305
01:46:28,434 --> 01:46:31,794
Speaker 4: Highly Norman normally.

2306
01:46:31,634 --> 01:46:32,434
Speaker 11: I don't know, But.

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01:46:34,154 --> 01:46:38,354
Speaker 1: I don't know if Kirk normally and being a stand

2308
01:46:38,434 --> 01:46:40,314
Speaker 1: up a hold of people, and that's what most of

2309
01:46:40,354 --> 01:46:43,034
Speaker 1: the media have been to Kirk over the years was

2310
01:46:43,034 --> 01:46:43,594
Speaker 1: not well.

2311
01:46:44,074 --> 01:46:46,274
Speaker 5: I mean, let's face that, I don't know him all

2312
01:46:46,314 --> 01:46:48,274
Speaker 5: that well. But you know, I met him a few times.

2313
01:46:48,394 --> 01:46:50,434
Speaker 5: Seem like a guy. We actually did TV at NBC

2314
01:46:50,514 --> 01:46:53,074
Speaker 5: Sports Boston a couple of times together. Seem like a

2315
01:46:53,154 --> 01:46:55,434
Speaker 5: nice guy to me. I liked him. I liked him

2316
01:46:55,434 --> 01:46:55,714
Speaker 5: a lot.

2317
01:46:56,514 --> 01:47:01,354
Speaker 11: Still rare, rare praise. But okay, into the uh, the

2318
01:47:01,474 --> 01:47:04,354
Speaker 11: down part about my call. I've sort of sort of

2319
01:47:04,354 --> 01:47:07,114
Speaker 11: been building up this as a Pats fans since January

2320
01:47:07,194 --> 01:47:12,074
Speaker 11: when Kraft let Belichick go. I kind of sort of

2321
01:47:12,114 --> 01:47:14,274
Speaker 11: turned on Craft. I mean, always love them for saving

2322
01:47:14,314 --> 01:47:16,234
Speaker 11: the Patriots, but I think a lot of Pats fans

2323
01:47:16,474 --> 01:47:18,754
Speaker 11: it's to me, I know you guys, you know, work

2324
01:47:18,834 --> 01:47:20,994
Speaker 11: for Craft and work for Patriots, and I actually think

2325
01:47:20,994 --> 01:47:24,234
Speaker 11: you're very honest, and you don't you know cowtail or

2326
01:47:24,274 --> 01:47:26,634
Speaker 11: anything or you don't have any directives like you said,

2327
01:47:27,114 --> 01:47:29,114
Speaker 11: but I said, it might but it still might be tough.

2328
01:47:29,114 --> 01:47:32,874
Speaker 11: For you to think like this that he just it

2329
01:47:32,994 --> 01:47:35,634
Speaker 11: sort of seems like he really just wants to be

2330
01:47:35,874 --> 01:47:38,674
Speaker 11: liked by everyone. You know, he's he's turned on his

2331
01:47:38,754 --> 01:47:41,874
Speaker 11: friends in the past to a p CNN and the Globe.

2332
01:47:41,994 --> 01:47:44,354
Speaker 11: You know, he didn't really defend Brady into flate Gate.

2333
01:47:44,754 --> 01:47:47,074
Speaker 11: He just wants to be liked by everyone and kind

2334
01:47:47,074 --> 01:47:50,354
Speaker 11: of eventually countails to the noise when people want to

2335
01:47:50,354 --> 01:47:53,314
Speaker 11: Belichick out fired the greatest coach of all time, all

2336
01:47:53,314 --> 01:47:55,954
Speaker 11: he had to do was say, look, we've been trying

2337
01:47:55,994 --> 01:47:58,834
Speaker 11: for a few years. At this point, you know, we

2338
01:47:58,874 --> 01:48:01,034
Speaker 11: think it's best to move on. Bill's the greatest coach

2339
01:48:01,074 --> 01:48:03,874
Speaker 11: of all time. We appreciate everything he's done, but we're

2340
01:48:03,914 --> 01:48:05,794
Speaker 11: going to go in a different direction. He didn't do

2341
01:48:05,834 --> 01:48:08,154
Speaker 11: it that way, and I think this is a major

2342
01:48:08,234 --> 01:48:10,514
Speaker 11: mistake to get rid of Belichick. I'll never you know,

2343
01:48:10,634 --> 01:48:12,514
Speaker 11: have a different opinion on that they can win another

2344
01:48:12,514 --> 01:48:14,994
Speaker 11: Super Bowl. It's not going to change my opinion, and

2345
01:48:15,074 --> 01:48:16,914
Speaker 11: I'm willing to give Mayo a chance. But I think

2346
01:48:16,954 --> 01:48:19,354
Speaker 11: the irony is Craft, who wants to be liked by

2347
01:48:19,394 --> 01:48:22,554
Speaker 11: everyone's gonna kind of go into the end of his day.

2348
01:48:22,594 --> 01:48:25,074
Speaker 11: He's liked by less people for making.

2349
01:48:24,834 --> 01:48:29,634
Speaker 4: This move for getting rid of Belichick keeps me correct. Okay,

2350
01:48:30,234 --> 01:48:31,354
Speaker 4: all right, thanks Dennis.

2351
01:48:31,514 --> 01:48:34,594
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I appreciate his opinion, and he said,

2352
01:48:34,634 --> 01:48:38,354
Speaker 5: you know, I'll never be convinced otherwise. I think it

2353
01:48:38,394 --> 01:48:41,394
Speaker 5: was time. Yeah, And that's not because of you know,

2354
01:48:41,594 --> 01:48:43,354
Speaker 5: I kind of agree with some of the sentiments. I

2355
01:48:43,354 --> 01:48:44,714
Speaker 5: think it would have been better if he had just

2356
01:48:45,194 --> 01:48:47,634
Speaker 5: sort of if Robert had just sort of straightforward made

2357
01:48:47,674 --> 01:48:49,954
Speaker 5: the move. I think he did try to kind of

2358
01:48:49,954 --> 01:48:51,794
Speaker 5: middle it a little bit, and I think that's that's

2359
01:48:51,874 --> 01:48:54,914
Speaker 5: backfire because I think it's drawn resentment from Bill now

2360
01:48:55,514 --> 01:48:58,754
Speaker 5: and I think his point about being liked, Yeah, he

2361
01:48:58,794 --> 01:49:01,834
Speaker 5: has probably alienated some people, but not I don't think

2362
01:49:01,874 --> 01:49:04,074
Speaker 5: necessarily because he made the move. I think it was time.

2363
01:49:04,114 --> 01:49:06,754
Speaker 5: I think Robert was absolutely right to make the move.

2364
01:49:06,914 --> 01:49:07,314
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2365
01:49:07,794 --> 01:49:10,234
Speaker 5: So I mean it's hard to I mean, I know

2366
01:49:10,274 --> 01:49:12,034
Speaker 5: it's hard to say that when they're two and seven

2367
01:49:12,594 --> 01:49:15,514
Speaker 5: and Mayo's going through all kinds of rookie growing pains,

2368
01:49:15,514 --> 01:49:18,474
Speaker 5: and you know, we see it every week, but it

2369
01:49:18,514 --> 01:49:20,674
Speaker 5: wasn't people I think forget how bad it got.

2370
01:49:20,714 --> 01:49:23,794
Speaker 8: There were two and seven last year too, Yeah.

2371
01:49:22,954 --> 01:49:26,194
Speaker 5: And it looked miserable, just like it is now, Yeah,

2372
01:49:27,034 --> 01:49:28,314
Speaker 5: I think people forget.

2373
01:49:29,994 --> 01:49:31,874
Speaker 4: I think, you know, we all saw the dynasty and

2374
01:49:31,914 --> 01:49:34,914
Speaker 4: all that, but I think there's still more details to

2375
01:49:34,994 --> 01:49:38,754
Speaker 4: come out. There will be some other form of whether

2376
01:49:38,794 --> 01:49:41,474
Speaker 4: it's a book or something that somebody else writes, that

2377
01:49:41,514 --> 01:49:43,754
Speaker 4: will have more information on this interesting.

2378
01:49:43,954 --> 01:49:46,074
Speaker 8: So I would love it, I mean and honestly, like

2379
01:49:46,074 --> 01:49:48,154
Speaker 8: I would just love to have and I know everybody

2380
01:49:48,154 --> 01:49:52,474
Speaker 8: will clamor for the the controversy stuff, but I just

2381
01:49:52,514 --> 01:49:54,554
Speaker 8: like to know his explanation for why did your football

2382
01:49:54,554 --> 01:49:57,954
Speaker 8: team end up a four win team in twenty twenty three?

2383
01:49:58,114 --> 01:50:00,394
Speaker 8: How did you get to that point from twenty twenty

2384
01:50:00,634 --> 01:50:02,234
Speaker 8: to that point those four seasons?

2385
01:50:02,714 --> 01:50:06,634
Speaker 5: How why I'd like to have him honestly talk about

2386
01:50:06,834 --> 01:50:09,554
Speaker 5: these things, you know, like so we can get into

2387
01:50:09,554 --> 01:50:11,554
Speaker 5: the draft picks and what went into them and why

2388
01:50:11,594 --> 01:50:14,234
Speaker 5: did they all of a sudden for five years didn't

2389
01:50:14,234 --> 01:50:15,834
Speaker 5: have a draft class to fall back?

2390
01:50:15,954 --> 01:50:18,514
Speaker 6: Are we talking about Bill or Bill? Yeah?

2391
01:50:18,594 --> 01:50:23,154
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just personally as a fan or whatever, like,

2392
01:50:23,234 --> 01:50:24,794
Speaker 7: I just don't really care about the owner.

2393
01:50:25,274 --> 01:50:26,754
Speaker 6: I mean that, with all due respect.

2394
01:50:27,634 --> 01:50:30,314
Speaker 4: Sports fans, we shouldn't care about the owner.

2395
01:50:30,394 --> 01:50:34,954
Speaker 27: Yeah, I just don't, right, That's what I mean, Right,

2396
01:50:35,194 --> 01:50:38,954
Speaker 27: The owner should get rich and enjoy being the owner

2397
01:50:38,954 --> 01:50:42,234
Speaker 27: of the team, and fans should be focused on the

2398
01:50:42,274 --> 01:50:43,434
Speaker 27: players and the coach.

2399
01:50:43,554 --> 01:50:47,514
Speaker 7: As long as as long as he's he's spending money

2400
01:50:47,554 --> 01:50:50,514
Speaker 7: to make the team better and he's putting the right

2401
01:50:50,554 --> 01:50:53,474
Speaker 7: people in charge to run the team. Those are the

2402
01:50:53,474 --> 01:50:56,074
Speaker 7: two roles of an owner, whether he's doing things to

2403
01:50:56,554 --> 01:50:59,194
Speaker 7: make his friends happy or not happy. Like the caller

2404
01:50:59,314 --> 01:51:01,634
Speaker 7: was saying, like, I just don't know why that bothers you, Like,

2405
01:51:01,874 --> 01:51:04,674
Speaker 7: if that that does, that's fine. I just don't know

2406
01:51:04,714 --> 01:51:07,714
Speaker 7: why that matters, Like why does it matter? You know,

2407
01:51:07,794 --> 01:51:10,794
Speaker 7: what he does to alienate people or not alienate people.

2408
01:51:11,074 --> 01:51:13,314
Speaker 7: Those are the two things of an owner. You know,

2409
01:51:13,434 --> 01:51:15,514
Speaker 7: mister Craft's done a great job of that for the

2410
01:51:15,554 --> 01:51:16,914
Speaker 7: better part of his ownership.

2411
01:51:16,994 --> 01:51:19,274
Speaker 4: Their their job is to hire the head coach and

2412
01:51:19,314 --> 01:51:21,634
Speaker 4: spend money when they're asked to spend money, Right.

2413
01:51:22,034 --> 01:51:23,074
Speaker 6: That's that's it.

2414
01:51:23,314 --> 01:51:25,474
Speaker 7: And if you want to critique him on the money thing,

2415
01:51:25,514 --> 01:51:29,954
Speaker 7: and I get it, But other than all his relationships

2416
01:51:29,994 --> 01:51:32,154
Speaker 7: and stuff like that, I just I don't know why

2417
01:51:32,234 --> 01:51:35,794
Speaker 7: that would impact how you think about him as the

2418
01:51:35,834 --> 01:51:36,634
Speaker 7: Patriots owner.

2419
01:51:36,914 --> 01:51:38,234
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's kind of on the line of why it

2420
01:51:38,314 --> 01:51:41,194
Speaker 8: interests me With Belichick, of just pure football, and Paul,

2421
01:51:41,234 --> 01:51:43,474
Speaker 8: your thing is like explicit at being like the truth,

2422
01:51:43,594 --> 01:51:46,794
Speaker 8: like be completely like tell us everything right. But that

2423
01:51:46,954 --> 01:51:49,474
Speaker 8: to me is like, look, you won a Super Bowl

2424
01:51:49,554 --> 01:51:51,314
Speaker 8: and then five years later you had a four to

2425
01:51:51,274 --> 01:51:51,834
Speaker 8: one season.

2426
01:51:51,954 --> 01:51:52,794
Speaker 4: Why how like?

2427
01:51:53,154 --> 01:51:54,634
Speaker 8: And I think a lot of like you know, we

2428
01:51:54,674 --> 01:51:57,554
Speaker 8: would sometimes joking sometimes not say that a lot of

2429
01:51:57,594 --> 01:51:59,674
Speaker 8: the stuff that he was going to do was like

2430
01:51:59,714 --> 01:52:01,554
Speaker 8: out of spite, like oh you want that, well, then

2431
01:52:01,594 --> 01:52:03,114
Speaker 8: I'm going to do this. Like a lot of the

2432
01:52:03,354 --> 01:52:05,314
Speaker 8: decisions along the way were kind of painted as that,

2433
01:52:05,394 --> 01:52:08,634
Speaker 8: which maybe there's some truth, maybe not, But I just

2434
01:52:08,874 --> 01:52:12,314
Speaker 8: I still can't quite wrap my head around how the

2435
01:52:12,354 --> 01:52:15,194
Speaker 8: greatest coach of all time could make so many poor

2436
01:52:15,234 --> 01:52:20,314
Speaker 8: personnel decisions over that period and not somewhere find something,

2437
01:52:20,714 --> 01:52:23,114
Speaker 8: you know, to stop, to build off of and to

2438
01:52:23,154 --> 01:52:25,594
Speaker 8: kind of turn it around. It just a little spike

2439
01:52:25,634 --> 01:52:26,674
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty one, but.

2440
01:52:26,674 --> 01:52:28,074
Speaker 16: Otherwise it was just straight down.

2441
01:52:28,234 --> 01:52:31,234
Speaker 4: I think there was I think, you know, things came

2442
01:52:31,274 --> 01:52:34,794
Speaker 4: to a head with the handling of mac Jones and

2443
01:52:34,834 --> 01:52:40,434
Speaker 4: the offense, and you know, whatever the reasons were, they

2444
01:52:40,634 --> 01:52:44,234
Speaker 4: ended up clashing Bill and mac Jones, and you know,

2445
01:52:44,514 --> 01:52:48,354
Speaker 4: I think Bill was resentful of Mac for the way

2446
01:52:48,434 --> 01:52:52,434
Speaker 4: he behaved in that year two and not really in

2447
01:52:52,514 --> 01:52:57,754
Speaker 4: his mind giving Patricia in Joe Judge a chance at

2448
01:52:58,114 --> 01:53:02,514
Speaker 4: their new positions, and so like their relationship, I think

2449
01:53:03,194 --> 01:53:06,794
Speaker 4: fell off from there and it never got you know, healed.

2450
01:53:07,394 --> 01:53:09,594
Speaker 4: And then I think Bill was upset, maybe because he

2451
01:53:09,634 --> 01:53:12,754
Speaker 4: felt he was forced to bring in Bill O'Brien in

2452
01:53:12,834 --> 01:53:16,474
Speaker 4: year three. You know, so like those last four years,

2453
01:53:16,474 --> 01:53:19,914
Speaker 4: it fell apart. It fell apart. That's what happens. And

2454
01:53:19,954 --> 01:53:22,594
Speaker 4: again I've said it before, the amazing thing is that

2455
01:53:22,634 --> 01:53:26,914
Speaker 4: it didn't happen sooner. You know, us on teams, you

2456
01:53:26,954 --> 01:53:30,914
Speaker 4: don't have all that success for twenty years and everything

2457
01:53:31,834 --> 01:53:34,154
Speaker 4: you know, and you have that coach that lasts for

2458
01:53:34,194 --> 01:53:38,114
Speaker 4: twenty years. And now I'm not saying everything was hunky dory,

2459
01:53:38,194 --> 01:53:41,514
Speaker 4: but like that you make it that far. Most teams

2460
01:53:41,514 --> 01:53:42,554
Speaker 4: don't make it that far.

2461
01:53:43,114 --> 01:53:43,234
Speaker 10: Uh.

2462
01:53:43,794 --> 01:53:46,474
Speaker 4: It's it's more amazing that it did than oh, it

2463
01:53:46,554 --> 01:53:49,834
Speaker 4: broke up after twenty four years. No, the amazing thing

2464
01:53:49,874 --> 01:53:51,074
Speaker 4: is it didn't break up sooner.

2465
01:53:51,674 --> 01:53:54,914
Speaker 7: I think one of the more like underrated you know,

2466
01:53:54,994 --> 01:53:57,834
Speaker 7: things that are untold stories I guess that we don't

2467
01:53:57,834 --> 01:54:01,274
Speaker 7: talk about enough is the amount of like brain drain

2468
01:54:01,594 --> 01:54:05,514
Speaker 7: that left the organization. While all this was happening, you know,

2469
01:54:05,594 --> 01:54:09,914
Speaker 7: Nick Casario takes the Houston Texans job, Ernie Adams retires,

2470
01:54:10,034 --> 01:54:13,834
Speaker 7: Dante retires, Ivan Fears retires, Like you know, all these

2471
01:54:13,874 --> 01:54:17,314
Speaker 7: guys from the dynasty that were Bill's guys that were

2472
01:54:17,954 --> 01:54:20,754
Speaker 7: sort of developing these players on the coaching staff or

2473
01:54:20,754 --> 01:54:24,594
Speaker 7: picking the players in Casario's case, like they all left

2474
01:54:24,914 --> 01:54:27,634
Speaker 7: and it kind of felt like at least covering the team,

2475
01:54:27,954 --> 01:54:30,394
Speaker 7: that everything just then all of a sudden fell on

2476
01:54:30,434 --> 01:54:34,194
Speaker 7: Bill And it's like, what he can't do everything right?

2477
01:54:34,274 --> 01:54:37,714
Speaker 7: Like he couldn't evaluate the draft, coach the team and

2478
01:54:37,754 --> 01:54:38,754
Speaker 7: all that all it was.

2479
01:54:38,834 --> 01:54:40,794
Speaker 4: And this is where I don't know the answer to

2480
01:54:40,914 --> 01:54:43,194
Speaker 4: but did it have to fall on him? Was it

2481
01:54:43,234 --> 01:54:46,874
Speaker 4: his choice to bring in maybe more high priced or

2482
01:54:47,434 --> 01:54:50,114
Speaker 4: more experienced people to surround him, Like did he not

2483
01:54:50,274 --> 01:54:55,034
Speaker 4: want that challenge to his authority or did he want

2484
01:54:55,074 --> 01:54:56,874
Speaker 4: to do it and he wasn't allowed to. I don't

2485
01:54:56,874 --> 01:54:57,634
Speaker 4: know the answer to that.

2486
01:54:57,794 --> 01:55:00,914
Speaker 7: Yeah, it just feels like those you know, those years

2487
01:55:00,914 --> 01:55:02,834
Speaker 7: with those drafts, Like if you think about it, that

2488
01:55:02,954 --> 01:55:06,714
Speaker 7: Bill during the season is coaching the Patriots and then

2489
01:55:06,754 --> 01:55:10,274
Speaker 7: he parachutes in for the draft, come January and February

2490
01:55:10,634 --> 01:55:12,794
Speaker 7: and then tries to take over the draft and start

2491
01:55:12,834 --> 01:55:16,114
Speaker 7: evaluating players. It's like these teams are to have these

2492
01:55:16,154 --> 01:55:18,674
Speaker 7: scouting departments that are on the scene, you know, this

2493
01:55:18,754 --> 01:55:22,154
Speaker 7: weekend at LSU Alabama, like the Patriots will have scouts there,

2494
01:55:22,194 --> 01:55:24,474
Speaker 7: and every other team will have scouts there, and so

2495
01:55:24,554 --> 01:55:26,554
Speaker 7: on and so forth. And then you have the head

2496
01:55:26,554 --> 01:55:28,514
Speaker 7: coach who's also the GM and all of a sudden

2497
01:55:28,554 --> 01:55:31,754
Speaker 7: he comes in and is like, I'm gonna just cram

2498
01:55:31,834 --> 01:55:34,594
Speaker 7: film for the next couple of weeks and then, you know,

2499
01:55:34,794 --> 01:55:37,554
Speaker 7: make my draft board out of that. I don't think

2500
01:55:37,554 --> 01:55:41,274
Speaker 7: that that's how good teams draft, you know, how they

2501
01:55:41,314 --> 01:55:45,714
Speaker 7: build a board. Building a board starts the fall prior.

2502
01:55:45,794 --> 01:55:48,074
Speaker 7: Oh yeah right, And I think if you have one

2503
01:55:48,114 --> 01:55:50,674
Speaker 7: guy doing all that kind of stuff, you know it

2504
01:55:50,754 --> 01:55:53,114
Speaker 7: did it felt like the details weren't there, like they

2505
01:55:53,154 --> 01:55:54,434
Speaker 7: were spread a little bit too thin.

2506
01:55:54,714 --> 01:56:00,194
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, and you know, and little things

2507
01:56:00,234 --> 01:56:03,794
Speaker 4: like what happens when Robert Kraft questions him on that,

2508
01:56:03,874 --> 01:56:05,794
Speaker 4: what kind of respons does he get? Does he get

2509
01:56:05,834 --> 01:56:09,914
Speaker 4: respected in a straight answer or does he get you know,

2510
01:56:10,074 --> 01:56:12,554
Speaker 4: and did that go on for twenty years?

2511
01:56:12,994 --> 01:56:13,154
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2512
01:56:13,234 --> 01:56:15,554
Speaker 4: I mean, while you're winning, you tolerate it.

2513
01:56:15,634 --> 01:56:17,754
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you throw in there too. Josh McDaniel's

2514
01:56:17,834 --> 01:56:20,154
Speaker 7: going to the Raiders and then taking like half the

2515
01:56:20,194 --> 01:56:23,154
Speaker 7: offensive staff with him to Vegas. So you lose your

2516
01:56:23,194 --> 01:56:26,354
Speaker 7: offensive line coach, you lose Lombardi, who is a guy

2517
01:56:26,354 --> 01:56:28,474
Speaker 7: that they thought was, you know, coming up their ranks

2518
01:56:28,474 --> 01:56:30,834
Speaker 7: a little bit. Josh takes all these guys with him

2519
01:56:30,914 --> 01:56:34,474
Speaker 7: to Vegas. So that's another half the coaching staff that's

2520
01:56:34,514 --> 01:56:37,274
Speaker 7: just wiped out. And now Matt Patricia is the offensive

2521
01:56:37,274 --> 01:56:40,634
Speaker 7: coordinator and Joe Judges the quarterbacks coach, and like all

2522
01:56:40,714 --> 01:56:42,794
Speaker 7: this stuff just kind of came to a head where,

2523
01:56:43,034 --> 01:56:46,874
Speaker 7: you know, all this exodus of football acumen just sort

2524
01:56:46,914 --> 01:56:47,754
Speaker 7: of walked out the building.

2525
01:56:47,874 --> 01:56:49,634
Speaker 8: Since she's question though, I mean, certainly some of those

2526
01:56:49,634 --> 01:56:52,314
Speaker 8: guys stayed the whole time, but like they had, you know,

2527
01:56:52,394 --> 01:56:54,874
Speaker 8: Charlie and Romeo left, and you know they were able

2528
01:56:54,874 --> 01:56:57,594
Speaker 8: to overcome that, and a couple of years they had

2529
01:56:57,794 --> 01:57:00,474
Speaker 8: one of the greatest offensive seasons in football history. So

2530
01:57:00,514 --> 01:57:03,034
Speaker 8: it's just, well, I get it's a bigger thing of

2531
01:57:03,074 --> 01:57:06,994
Speaker 8: like Ernie and Dante and you know, it's everybody, but

2532
01:57:07,034 --> 01:57:09,314
Speaker 8: you can lose coordinators even.

2533
01:57:08,834 --> 01:57:12,394
Speaker 4: When you were losing Romeo. When Charlie Bill was complimented

2534
01:57:12,794 --> 01:57:16,154
Speaker 4: for having a bench. Yeah, he's always complimented for having

2535
01:57:16,234 --> 01:57:20,154
Speaker 4: that pipeline of young guys that started, as you know,

2536
01:57:20,234 --> 01:57:22,874
Speaker 4: assistants and had worked their way up so that when

2537
01:57:23,594 --> 01:57:26,954
Speaker 4: you know, these guys left, somebody would start the role.

2538
01:57:26,994 --> 01:57:29,794
Speaker 4: They wouldn't get the title right away, but they'd start

2539
01:57:29,834 --> 01:57:31,714
Speaker 4: in that role and then in a year or two

2540
01:57:31,834 --> 01:57:34,274
Speaker 4: later they'd get the coordinator title.

2541
01:57:34,314 --> 01:57:36,674
Speaker 5: And you do wonder if it happened. I mean, obviously

2542
01:57:36,674 --> 01:57:39,794
Speaker 5: the coaching situation you can see, but like in personnel side,

2543
01:57:40,274 --> 01:57:43,034
Speaker 5: and I don't have all the years that all this

2544
01:57:43,074 --> 01:57:46,754
Speaker 5: stuff happened committed to memories. The timeline might not line up.

2545
01:57:46,794 --> 01:57:50,554
Speaker 5: But you talk about Cassario, he leaves, and you know,

2546
01:57:50,754 --> 01:57:54,634
Speaker 5: think about some of the guys they lost as top lieutenants,

2547
01:57:54,834 --> 01:57:57,194
Speaker 5: like Bob Quinn goes to Detroit to run Detroit for

2548
01:57:57,234 --> 01:58:01,834
Speaker 5: a little while, Monte Austin Ford, you know, goes, John

2549
01:58:01,954 --> 01:58:05,874
Speaker 5: Robinson goes, like these are probably guys that he probably

2550
01:58:05,914 --> 01:58:10,474
Speaker 5: had earmarked for the replacement if and when I lose

2551
01:58:10,514 --> 01:58:14,754
Speaker 5: Scott Pioli and then Nick Cassario and my bench is gone.

2552
01:58:14,834 --> 01:58:16,914
Speaker 5: Thomas Dimitroff even before that you know.

2553
01:58:16,994 --> 01:58:20,514
Speaker 7: I mean Dave Ziegler left the year afgu he went

2554
01:58:20,554 --> 01:58:24,514
Speaker 7: with McDaniels, right, And Ziegler was a big part of

2555
01:58:24,554 --> 01:58:27,154
Speaker 7: the twenty one which is probably the best draft, even

2556
01:58:27,154 --> 01:58:30,034
Speaker 7: though it hasn't looked great now, it was probably at

2557
01:58:30,034 --> 01:58:31,674
Speaker 7: the time the best draft that they had had in

2558
01:58:31,714 --> 01:58:33,634
Speaker 7: this period of time that we're talking about.

2559
01:58:34,234 --> 01:58:35,594
Speaker 6: And then he leaves also.

2560
01:58:35,954 --> 01:58:38,314
Speaker 5: So it's been you know, four or five six years

2561
01:58:38,354 --> 01:58:40,954
Speaker 5: of tough drafts. You wonder if you can tie it

2562
01:58:40,994 --> 01:58:43,914
Speaker 5: back to they just didn't have the replacements in place

2563
01:58:44,034 --> 01:58:46,754
Speaker 5: like they used to. Yeah, ye, in personnel.

2564
01:58:46,954 --> 01:58:50,914
Speaker 4: Yeah, instead of a gradual exodus, it was starting to,

2565
01:58:51,714 --> 01:58:54,474
Speaker 4: you know, be more rapid fire and you couldn't keep up.

2566
01:58:54,554 --> 01:58:56,914
Speaker 4: But I don't know. It's like I said, I think

2567
01:58:56,954 --> 01:58:59,594
Speaker 4: there's a lot of details that we're not privy to

2568
01:58:59,794 --> 01:59:03,994
Speaker 4: that maybe someday we will. Let's go to back to Ohio.

2569
01:59:04,034 --> 01:59:06,194
Speaker 4: Brad's gonna give it another shot. What's up, Brad?

2570
01:59:07,714 --> 01:59:08,234
Speaker 10: How you doing?

2571
01:59:08,314 --> 01:59:08,594
Speaker 19: Guys?

2572
01:59:08,634 --> 01:59:09,194
Speaker 11: Can you hear me?

2573
01:59:09,394 --> 01:59:09,794
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yep?

2574
01:59:11,194 --> 01:59:11,594
Speaker 10: All right?

2575
01:59:11,594 --> 01:59:11,874
Speaker 13: Great?

2576
01:59:12,154 --> 01:59:15,194
Speaker 18: Uh, he love to go work, you would do great.

2577
01:59:15,554 --> 01:59:15,674
Speaker 16: Uh.

2578
01:59:15,914 --> 01:59:20,274
Speaker 19: Just a couple of thoughts I have here, Uh, primarily

2579
01:59:20,314 --> 01:59:25,194
Speaker 19: about the offensive line obviously, was just the most glaring issue,

2580
01:59:26,554 --> 01:59:29,274
Speaker 19: is there ever a chance that will see City saw

2581
01:59:29,394 --> 01:59:32,274
Speaker 19: again be able to run block even on the right

2582
01:59:32,354 --> 01:59:38,034
Speaker 19: side of more uh? And then when will Kayden Wallace

2583
01:59:38,154 --> 01:59:41,834
Speaker 19: be back? And is there any chance at all that

2584
01:59:41,954 --> 01:59:47,674
Speaker 19: will see low sou Brown in a WINU and Wallace

2585
01:59:47,874 --> 01:59:54,394
Speaker 19: all at their original position on the offensive line this year,

2586
01:59:55,594 --> 01:59:58,434
Speaker 19: which must sounds like it might be an asking law.

2587
01:59:58,554 --> 02:00:04,034
Speaker 19: But then my next question is, you know, so that

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Speaker 19: they can build continuities, do and stay keep that group together.

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Speaker 19: And then with the receivers, I mean, does Evan have

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Speaker 19: any idea what's going on with Baker if he's gonna play.

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Speaker 4: Or had a shot to play last game and he

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Speaker 4: you know, played a couple in there a couple of

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Speaker 4: times thanks to the call Brad.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I Evan's report today with him when you

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Speaker 8: going back to left guard was like more of a

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Speaker 8: disappointment for me for City because it seems like they're

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Speaker 8: off of trying to work him in at all.

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Speaker 5: Was I No, this is not a health thing for City.

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Speaker 5: So he's been on the active roster for the last

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Speaker 5: several games. They obviously feel like the guys that they're

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Speaker 5: playing are better than him, better options than him.

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Speaker 4: Finish up the show, El writes in he says, guys,

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Speaker 4: I'm confused about the call. He said we had and

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Speaker 4: fired the greatest coach of all time. But I don't

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Speaker 4: remember ay Andy Reid ever being here. Oh but wow, wow, Okay.

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Speaker 5: I did not see that ending. I didn't see that coming.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of

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Speaker 4: Patriots Unfiltered. Stay tuned for the playbook with John Rook

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Speaker 4: and uh We'll be back tomorrow at noon.

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Speaker 5: Gotta hurry.

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