1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Charlie, thank you from the Bloomberg News Room, I Mark Crumpton. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: President Obama says the United States respects the decision of 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: the British people to leave the European Union. Speaking in 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Palo Alto, California, the President said key alliances with the 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: US won't change. The EU will remain one of our 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: indispensable partners, our NATO alliance will remain a quarter stone 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: of global security, and in a few weeks will be 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: meeting in Warsaw for the NATO Summit. And our shared values, 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: including our commitment to democracy and pluralism and opportunity for 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: all people in a globalized world. The President said he's 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: spoken by phone the British Prime Minister David Cameron and 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: his confident the UK is committed to an orderly transition 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: from the European Union. How Speaker Paul Ryan says the 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: U s UK relationship will continue as usual despite the gregsit. 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: He expects today's initial market volatility to level off. Obviously, 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: markets going to react when new news and information like 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: this occurs. I believe that markets will eventually stabilize. Russian 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: leaders are speaking out on the UK's historic decision. President 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin says it isn't the Kremlin's position to quote 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: interfere and decisions made by Britain by Minister Dmitri Medvedev 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: said the result had quote risks for the world economy 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: and therefore the Russian economy. The NYPD says it will 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: be on high alert for this weekend's NYC LGBT Pride March. 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: The festivities are expected to draw about one point six 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: million spectators, many more people than usual. Global news twenty 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: four hours a day, powered by more than twenty six 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: hundred journalists and analysts in more than one hundred twenty countries. 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm Mark Crumpton. This is Bloomberg, Charlie, and we thank 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: you and again recapping equities lower part of a global 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: sell off, with the SMP downs seventy six points to 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: two thousand thirty seven, a drop there a three points 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: six percent. Our coverage continues right here on Bloomberg and 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: then Station. They'll stay with Bloomberg Radio all weekend long 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: for our continued coverage of Brexit, including special editions of 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Surveillance Saturday and Sunday beginning at seven am. I'm 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: Charlie Pellett and that's a Bloomberg business flash. You're listening 37 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: to taking Stock with Bim Box and Kathleen Hayes on 38 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Oil tumbling on with most commodities, a global 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: flight from risky assets after the UK voted to lead 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: the European Union. Whether the route last depends on how 41 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: world governments deal with the turmoil. We turned now to 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Follow Gate, Managing director and oil and gas analysts at 43 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: Oppenheimer and Code, to get his analysis of what this 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: political economic financial event means for oil. Follow How surprised 45 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: were you by the outcome? It's uncertainty. It's basically sharing 46 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: the unknown. No one really knows exactly what the impact 47 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: will be very difficult to quantify, but the cell off 48 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: is likely to level off, and I would not be 49 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: surprised at all. In the next few days and few weeks. 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: UH oil prices were recovered on strong frain, on strong fundamentals. 51 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: In general. UH, the amand will continue to move at least, 52 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, parallel to what we have before. But supply 53 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: is coming down, so therefore oil prices are likely to 54 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: move higher. The question is not if it is when 55 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: and by how much? Okay, In fact, the International Energy agency, 56 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: which is a Paris based advisor to industrialized nations, saying 57 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: in a statement today that the fundamentals of oil is 58 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: applied to main demand remain unchanged after the vote, basically 59 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: echoing what you're saying. I got followed with the with 60 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: the main risk here, perhaps the only risk be uh, 61 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: if there's some kind of global recession. And I just 62 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: saw some news breaking on the Bloomberg terminal having to 63 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: do with the UK and Moodies United Kingdom outlook Apparently 64 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: UH too negative by Moodies the ratings of firms, So 65 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: obviously for the United Kingdom this is reverberating. Is that 66 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: the is that the main dynamic that could change the 67 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: supply demand balance for oil? Yeah, basically global economic growth 68 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: will entail certain demand level and if that does not materialize, 69 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: obviously you're going to lose the other part of the equation. 70 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: It's supply and demand. You can talk about the demand, 71 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: but supply is heading down. There is no if for 72 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: butts about it. Because the industry has kept kept up 73 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: spending significantly over the last two years. The industry have 74 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: trouble maintaining production, let alone you know, grow in production 75 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: when all prices were eighty on hundred dollars, So nobody 76 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: should expect that the industry would be able no matter 77 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: what they can do. Will course, saving and you know, 78 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: efficiency improvement and all these things will not make up 79 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: for the drop of fifty dollar down. It is just impossible. 80 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: So demand will you know, move side away, but supply 81 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: will come down. So therefore the balances do. The question 82 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: again is when is it going to be by the 83 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: end of this year or early next year? You know, um, 84 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: we had our Bloomberg Intelligence Latin American economists on today, 85 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Philip Fernandez. He said, basically, this is just not such 86 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: a big deal for the Latin American countries. Maybe some 87 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: impact on the Bank of Mexico if the pace will 88 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: gets hit again. Is it kind of a similar story 89 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: for the Middle East that this will be watched from Afar? 90 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: It will be that we have our own issues, our 91 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: own you know things, And of course this is one 92 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: of the this is the region where you most watch 93 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: for oil geopolitically, but no repercussions, no connections that matter 94 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: here to be with the EU. Yeah, I mean, you know, 95 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: I have to remember also the growth in energy and 96 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: oil demand, it's not coming from Europe. It's coming from 97 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: outside of your of in the US. And this is 98 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: where basically people look at the demand supply and the 99 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: demand is not coming is coming from China, it is 100 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: coming from India, and they will have very little to 101 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: do with whether the UK is in the European Union 102 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: or outside. So what use the price of oil going funnel? Well, 103 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: we still maintained that the new normal is going to 104 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: be somewhere in the sixty plus dollar level. Fifty percent 105 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: of US producer cannot sustain operation unless or until oil 106 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: prices exceed sixty dollars. So this is the price that 107 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: we are going to see. When that's going to happen again, 108 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, it could be in six months, could be 109 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: in the year. But fifty dollar oil is not sustainable 110 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: because the longer we stay at fifty dollar, the more 111 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: decline we're going to see, and the bigger the upside 112 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: after that, when the market gets back into balance, we 113 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: are going to see a surgeon or prices, which I 114 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: do not want to see because we'll create the same 115 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: cycle again and we really don't need that. So, you know, 116 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: slow increase in oil prices over the next six or 117 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: twelve months will get us the sixty hour and that 118 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: will be a sustainable level. It sounds pretty good for 119 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: the global economy. As someone who's watched um the world 120 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: and markets and geopolitics for so long, what do you 121 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: make of this decision? Is this the end of the 122 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: EU as we know it? I was in Europe actually 123 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: for a few weeks in the last couple of months, 124 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: and I can tell you most of the people that 125 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: I talked to in London especially, they were not very 126 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: happy at always being members of the European Union. And 127 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: you're complain about you know, people coming in, you know, 128 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: raising real estate prices, making life more difficult, competing with 129 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: them for the same jobs and things like that. So 130 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: these are you know, part of nationalism that unfortunately is 131 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: going throughout the whole world. 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