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Speaker 1: You know. It was whatever, and I was just happy

425
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Speaker 1: to be out there. I mean, like I said, after

426
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 1: a year or two is when I started said, hey, Okay,

427
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm on this level. You know, I'm gonna this guy.

428
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm getting some buckets too. Yeah. So I mean that

429
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Speaker 1: with Mike now, when we're talking about guys that I

430
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 1: played against in college, Like I said, that went ahead

431
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 1: of me, that were drafted before me, Like anytime I

432
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 1: step on the court with those guys, I was just

433
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 1: trying to murder them every time. Every time. But Mike,

434
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 1: You're like, you gotta, yeah, I was, you gotta pay

435
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 1: homage to that guy to give him some respect back

436
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: on it. He gotta put some respect. So so would

437
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 1: you say, would you say he like at of all

438
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: all the people like that you played against, is he

439
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a two guard to You're having a

440
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 1: guard this dude absolutely so in his prime, what besides

441
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 1: the obvious made him so hard to guard. What made

442
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: him so good, besides the things that everybody knows about,

443
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: like just what is the details in the minute of it?

444
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, offensively, defensively, he was just the best. I mean,

445
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: you couldn't do anything, I mean with him. He had

446
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: moves fade away, you couldn't stop it. I mean it

447
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 1: just he had all the moves and didn't right shoulder, left,

448
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: shoulder up and under. Anything you can think of he

449
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: could do on the court. So he made all his

450
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 1: free throws. You couldn't file him if you did the

451
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: ref for blowing the whistle. You know it was it

452
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: was a tough cover. Yeah, it's tough. Um and and

453
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: and who who else were you like most sort of

454
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 1: looking forward to her? You were like that, you idolize

455
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Speaker 1: that you made it up and you were in there again. Well,

456
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: it was really Mike, to be honest, I mean he's

457
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: the one guy that out everybody else. I was just,

458
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to find my own niche, you

459
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I looked up to Mike, but

460
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: I felt like I had I belong at this point,

461
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna, you know, make my own way here. Okay, alright,

462
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: So so one of the things that uh you you

463
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Speaker 1: you make a first team NBA All Star Game for

464
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Speaker 1: all NBA team first Did you know how hard that

465
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Speaker 1: is that this is not the All Star Yeah? Thank you,

466
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: thank you? Yes? And how old are you at this point?

467
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: I don't know? Yeah, yeah, young. Look what is it

468
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: like being an NBA player twenty your your first team

469
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: NBA All everything. It's just happening so fast you don't

470
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: even realize what's going on. You know, you're kind of

471
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: in the moment, and until you look back and see

472
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: what you accomplished, you don't really realize it. So as

473
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 1: I was going through it, I mean the first All

474
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: Star game I went to in Minneapolis, I think I

475
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: played like two minutes. I didn't even get in the game.

476
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: But I'm sitting there with all these All Stars and

477
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: I didn't say words to anybody cause I didn't know anyone.

478
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there just in the corner by myself,

479
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, this guy, what's wrong with him? He's

480
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: he don't even talk, you know what I mean. I'm like,

481
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,959
Speaker 1: I was just yeah, I felt out of place at

482
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Speaker 1: the time, and well, what do you think that that's

483
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Speaker 1: that's interesting that you say, because it appears now and

484
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's not even it appears like you hear

485
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: them talk, you see the footage. What do you think

486
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: of I called the a uification of the NBA. Like now,

487
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: all these guys like Lebron, Carmelo, all of them, they

488
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: were all all the players, they've all they've all played

489
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: on travel teams when they were younger. They've all grown

490
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: up together. You see pictures, you know, and before they

491
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: were shaving together. You know, they come out, they do handshakes,

492
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: they're on opposite teams, they do even fancier handshakes. They

493
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: get traded, you're kissing each other. Do you think that

494
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Speaker 1: that that that the fact that you don't know these

495
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: guys and they're sort of like you know at that time,

496
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: like you you meet Jordan's on the court. You know,

497
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: you meet Pipping on the court, you meet your opponents

498
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: most of them on the court. Do you think that

499
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: the the the NBA is suffers from this familiarity? Is

500
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: that I say it right that time? However, you saying

501
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: I know, but I I say it, and then I'm like,

502
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: what does it sounds you're saying it? Wrong anyway you

503
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: say it, you fuck you. So do you think do

504
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: you think that uh that that that this? You know,

505
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: people growing up and knowing each other and you know

506
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: their Instagram photos and the banana boats and the beach.

507
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: It like, do you think it's messing? It doesn't bother me.

508
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean if the guys get along, because I have

509
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: NBA friends, guys that have from friends, Like if Billy

510
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: Owen's got traded, he was on my team and he

511
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: went to Miami. I mean, we're still friends. We may

512
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: hang out in the summer. So I didn't see anything

513
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: wrong with it. Okay, Okay, I fucking do. If we

514
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: were teammates and one of us got traded, it couldn't

515
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 1: of course. You that's one thing. It's that's one thing.

516
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: But it's it's like you know, the and also part

517
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: of it is because at the time, if you're cool

518
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: in the summer back then, it's not all up in

519
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: the videos, all up in the Instagram now like it's

520
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: crazy seeing it's crazy seeing you know, Kevin Durant uh

521
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: and and Lebron James, you know, working out in the summertime.

522
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: To me, that's crazy, like you of course, I'm sure

523
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: like dude you play with. But it just seems like,

524
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, when you get out on the court, like

525
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: it's got to be sort of like I mean, you

526
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: you were known for your competitiveness, like you were known

527
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: like you know, your teammates, so like you had a

528
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: Tyson X thing, like you were going hard body karate.

529
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Speaker 1: That's what you still think. I love you, thank you.

530
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: I still think the guys compete though. I mean, just

531
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: because they're your, you know, friends, that doesn't mean you're

532
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna see him on the court and say, hey, I'm

533
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: gonna take it easy on you. That's not the case.

534
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: Those guys are still going at each other. They want

535
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: to win. Uh you want to you know, have a

536
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: little notch on the other guy, you know. So I

537
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Speaker 1: don't feel like that really matters, because when once you

538
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: get the court, all bets are off. I mean, you're

539
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: you're trying to win, your planning for your team, your city.

540
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: So I don't think any of that matters. Okay, all right,

541
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I'm just crazy. I know, I know,

542
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: I know he did. That's why he's here. I'm interviewing him.

543
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm just I get that. I'm just you know, I

544
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: I understand asking this question. So what do you what

545
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: do you so? So you're your your your team's at

546
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Golden State. They've turned it around. They they're they're winning championships.

547
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: They became the darling of the league. What how are you?

548
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: How do you feel about you know, the Golden State's

549
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: emergence and they become like the bell of the ball

550
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: because when you were there, I mean, run TMC was

551
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: an era and then you were there. It was an era,

552
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like did you ever? I mean, Golden

553
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: State is like the darling of the NBA. And I

554
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: love Golden State because I know we're close, and I

555
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: don't want to start an riots, but I fucking can't

556
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: stand the Cavaliers now. I don't want no ship from

557
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: anybody we know to I know, I know we're close,

558
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: were close. I know majority of people are with me,

559
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: but you never know. When you get that road. Clevelander

560
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: who came out to see the live, sucking problems with you,

561
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: I'll fucking hit you with the mic. They won a championship,

562
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: all that, yeah, one within they won a champ for

563
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: the land, the fucking waste land champ. I don't know

564
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: if there's any bone thugs and harmony dudes in here.

565
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to just I was trying to be careful.

566
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: Is there anybody and he who's a Cleveland Cavaliers fan ship?

567
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: One guy? Alright, alright, he got the lands on that come?

568
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: Did that land shirt come with a bildate smell? No,

569
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. I'm pretty well here, put the knick

570
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: sht on. Yeah, God, I respect, I'm glad they won.

571
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: God God helped him. They had nothing else going on

572
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: for them and they had help. Yeah, well then let's

573
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 1: stay let's stay focused. So I mean, listen, let's we're

574
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: gonna do a queue in a Everybody just get holding themselves.

575
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: Holy shit? Is that is? Um? What was this hell? So? Like?

576
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: Did you ever imagine that that that team would become

577
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: like a focal port where all the games like like

578
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: you turn on TBSC turned out, I mean, t N,

579
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: T ESPN, it's almost like every ABC, it's like the

580
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors network. Did you ever imagine that that

581
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: would become that team? I never did. They had a

582
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 1: little run when they had Don Nelson coaching for him,

583
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: so they were they were good then. I never expected

584
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: it to be what it is now, but I'm definitely

585
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: happy for the organization. I think the thing for me,

586
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: what I like the most is I love the way

587
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: they played the up and down style, their wide open

588
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: shooting threes, and I think that's one of the reasons

589
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: Katie went there. He I think he wants to be

590
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: a part of that, the atmosphere and just the way

591
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: they play the game. All right, so so so so

592
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: you so you know, I asked you about this backstage

593
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: and then I this is what I did to La

594
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Charles people. I started asking the questions as I said,

595
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: don't answer, I'm gonna ask you on stage. So now

596
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: I want to get your answer. You said that, well,

597
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: what do you think because there's been so much scrutiny

598
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: that about k D going to uh Golden State. Me, basically,

599
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: I think that he did. He just followed the Lebron

600
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: James playbook, and I felt and at the time I

601
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: couldn't work for didn't it. I know it worked, but

602
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: but you know, like tell me, like you're in Oklahoma,

603
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: you have these guys, you fucking blow it. You you've

604
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: been there for a few years, you're twenty seven years old.

605
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: It's your fault that you blew it you guys, blew it?

606
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: Why not re up one more year? And I know

607
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: you can't read this guy's mind, but why not re

608
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: re up one more year to be like, you know

609
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be. I'm gonna wrong my right, and

610
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: if we don't do it next year, then so be it.

611
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't. I can't give you the answer

612
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: as to why he wouldn't stay. I mean, like you

613
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: said they had him free one and then you can

614
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: say you could say it now, I'll say whatever. But

615
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: you can't be mad at the guy for wanting to

616
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. I don't know what what's to doing. Okay, see,

617
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what his reasons or his motivation is

618
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: for going to the bey are is a lot of fun,

619
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know what what it was, so

620
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: I can imagine be mad at him for it though.

621
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: That's my point. But do you think that like that

622
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: that this sort of I call it the friends and family.

623
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: I feel like it's ganging up. Like I feel like, like,

624
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: let's say me, g Monetti and and Spree, we were

625
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: like we're gonna play all you assholes three on three.

626
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: It's not there. That's not there, you know what I mean.

627
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: So I feel like what this doing. It's like I

628
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: didn't understand why Golden State. They have this great chemistry,

629
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: they also fucked up, you know, they blew it themselves,

630
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: Like why do you want to bring in some it's

631
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: such a presence, you know, it's it's like who's the

632
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: first option? And then I was thinking to the minut

633
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: show it like, you know, I know it's all ego,

634
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Speaker 1: but on teams, the last person called out is usually

635
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Speaker 1: the biggest star. Who's gonna be the last person called out?

636
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: It's no longer gonna be That's the beautiful thing about

637
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: Golden State though, in the way they play, it doesn't matter.

638
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: They're so unselfish. They moved the ball. Like I said,

639
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: they don't really care. They just want to win. And

640
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't win seventy three games without being unselfish,

641
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: and that's the way they play. I think Katie probably

642
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: in the back of his mind, said he wanted to

643
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 1: be a part of that. And that's why I mean,

644
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 1: I don't I don't blame him for one of them

645
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: wanting to be a part of that and the way

646
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: they play. I mean, he's a permiminer. Player. He loves

647
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: to shoot threes. I mean that's his game. So I mean,

648
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: why not go to a team that's, you know, got

649
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: the best chance that winning the ring is? Which is

650
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: another thing I hear. You do you think that the

651
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: whole you know, getting a ring? I mean, this is

652
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: all your opinion, Like is how important is it to

653
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: a legacy? I mean is it? Like how hard is

654
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: it to lose? Like you know, I don't want to

655
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: jump to the nixt years yet, but like you know,

656
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: like I feel like, you know, because Charles Barkley, he

657
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: takes so much ship every single night on T and T.

658
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: Like Kenny Smith, Like, Okay, you're a good player, but

659
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: you're not Charles Barkley. We know you want some rings.

660
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: Kenny Smith, I love it. You're from Queen's. Queen's is

661
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: in the house. But I'm just saying it's like, you know,

662
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: like Pat you and these are like there's like a

663
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: handful of these guys and for me, it defines them

664
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: as a player and what they've done in their careers.

665
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: But I think it does matter. It's a little something

666
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: in the back of their minds that they obviously wish,

667
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: like I wish we had one in nine, you know.

668
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, so I didn't get the ring, but I'm like,

669
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: you were that close, you know almost you know. So

670
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: it's things a little, but it doesn't define you. It

671
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: doesn't define your career. Welcome to play a new podcast

672
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Speaker 1: network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment,

673
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Speaker 1: and more. Play it at play dot. It all right,

674
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Speaker 1: so let's let's let's jump to the Knick. So you

675
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: wind up playing in New York. We had a little

676
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: bump in the road. You wind up with the New

677
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: York Knicks. Did you you you at the time you

678
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: come to New York? New York is like we we

679
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 1: we we were a ground and pound team. You're from

680
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: Golden State, you grew up in Milwaukee. Had you spent

681
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: any time in New York just on the road trips there?

682
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: So I had. I had never been there, just like

683
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: hanging out or visiting New York. It was my first

684
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: time actually living or spending any significant time in New York.

685
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: And what year is this? So it's ninety nine. This

686
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: is the platinum era. This is when hip hop is

687
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: started to go platinum. Crazy Jay z DMX, the Pelly

688
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: Pell Jackets. Yeah, I still got it. Do you see

689
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: some of the Pelly Pells in New York? Absolutely that

690
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: you should keep because a few years that stuff would

691
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: be like you could put that ship in the museum

692
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: and like it's will be worth a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Conduct to the interview with the Pelly Pell So, so

694
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Speaker 1: what is it like when you get to New York?

695
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: You're playing for for this team, this New York Knicks team,

696
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: and and then just remind, remind everybody who was on

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00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: this team, and what's this like? Well, Patrick Ewing and

698
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: Larry Johnson, Alan Houston, Charlie Ward, I mean, Marcus Canby,

699
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: Chris Child's, Kurt Thomas. We had a pretty good team

700
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: now and and and Jeff Van Gundy's the coach Jack

701
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: did you hear my stand Van Gundy and press impersonation?

702
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: Let me hear it? Funk? All right, Okay, I'm down

703
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: in because the thing I love I was thinking, the

704
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: thing I love about the Van Gundy brothers is they

705
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: always seem just like, as soon as the season started

706
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, they look refreshed. But as

707
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: soon as the first game starts, Jeff, well, Jeff, you know,

708
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: he just looked like, I don't know, he had hair

709
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: growing out of weird places he had like these are

710
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: and stand and stand. He loses his voice. He doesn't

711
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: have a voice as soon as the season starts, and

712
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 1: he always looks like he's like living in like living,

713
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: like he lives at the gym somewhere. So I have

714
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: this fantasy that he's a the degenerate pill popping hooker lover.

715
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: I know it's not real. I know I did it.

716
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Speaker 1: I know. I know it's just it's called bizarro stand

717
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: van Gundhi. But I did it earlier. But I'll do another. Listen,

718
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm still down here. I gotta need somebody to help me.

719
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: I got locked up in Thailand. I had a little

720
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: beef with a looker. She cold cocked me. I ran

721
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: out of the fucking hooker place. Nick. A couple of

722
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: time policeman ran up on me. I said, you know

723
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: who I am, you cock sucker. Lea's give me a job, Steff.

724
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here naked. They put me on one of

725
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: these back of the stand here. So that's my It's

726
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: just like this, so so so so so talk to

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Speaker 1: me about like that Nixon. Well, first of all, what

728
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of coach is Jeff Van Gundy, and what was

729
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: it like at first, because he seems like he seems

730
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: like he doesn't sleep. He seems that he doesn't sleep

731
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: at all. He's I think we talked about it a

732
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: little bit backstage. He we get off the plane at

733
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: two or three in the morning, and he'd go to

734
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: this office and he'd watched the game four times. So

735
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: we come to practice and he's just getting on us.

736
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: Well after I saw the game four times, Latrelle, you

737
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: didn't do this. It's like with Jeff, you've been up

738
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: all nights. He's just like, that's the type of guy.

739
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: That's the type of coach he is. He he never

740
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: got any rest and that's why he always looks so tired. Though.

741
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: Did anyone ever say, like, Jeff, listen, you look like

742
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: ship all the time, all the time, all the time,

743
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: all the time. I can go to bed, you know.

744
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: And then and then Pat Ewing, who I I it

745
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: breaks my heart advocated for pet we I try. I

746
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: feel like Pat Ewing wants to coach so bad, and

747
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: I feel like Michael Jordan he's doing he's doing shot

748
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: charts for Frank to Tank Kaminski down there, you remember,

749
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's free you were there when Pat had

750
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: that scowl. He was he was a tough I mean,

751
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: he was competitive. He had now looking take a look

752
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: at him when you see him next time on TV.

753
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: He looks like, fucking baby, they broke my man. And

754
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: I love him, and I feel like, well, well, you know,

755
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: they bring in every single person could be a New

756
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: York Knicks coach. We got Jeff hornets Sex, We've had,

757
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: we had Derek Fisher. He didn't guy coach more games.

758
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: Hert Williams. Hert Williams was a coach. I mean, I

759
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: just want Pat You. Like every every offseason year, well,

760
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: the canna interview Pat You and then and before Pat

761
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: even gets to like Sacramento, they're like, they hired this one.

762
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: And then like, well the Clippers are gonna interview Pat

763
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: Young and then you know you'll see Pat the airport running,

764
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: and then they hired this guy. I don't, well, what

765
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: is what what was Patrick Ewing like? Because I feel

766
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: like he's getting misconstruted because he never was like a

767
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: vocal He was never that articulate openly with the press

768
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: and the media. And I feel like the same thing

769
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: that happened to Kareem Abdul Jabar sort of biting pating

770
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: in the assid Well, I can't explain it. I love Patrick.

771
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean we never had any issues and he was

772
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: a great teammate. So for for life of me, I

773
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: can't understand why he's not with the Knicks. I felt

774
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: like once he retired, that would be one place that

775
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: he would have an open door, you know, to be

776
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: able to go and coach. So I don't understand it myself.

777
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: Something I mean, he would be you know, the Knicks,

778
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: would be would appreciate. Uh. He's the face of the Knicks.

779
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: He's like the Knicks. When you think of you think

780
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: of Patrick. That's what I'm saying. For him to not

781
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: be able to I don't understand. And Derek fucking Fisher,

782
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: who never coached nothing the eye coach a thirteen year

783
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: old team to a championship spree. I have more coaching

784
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: experience than Derek fucking Fisher. I could have been a

785
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: yeah you had had me as the assistant, Yes, it

786
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: would be and it would have been good. So so

787
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: so so are when you say a good teammate When

788
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: when you said, like about Pat, what does that mean?

789
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: And and talk to me about like you know, the

790
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: chemistry of that team, because for me as a fan,

791
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like you guys were tough. You know,

792
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't as much ground and pound as the the

793
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: goon squad that the Nicks had with the Xavier and

794
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: I can't believe that when you look back in hindsch

795
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: that Xavier McDaniels and and and Unkley were on the

796
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: same team and that no one got arrested and no

797
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: one like I mean, that just seems like when you

798
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: think about it now, and God Black, I mean Anthony Mason.

799
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, so it was it was still had that tenacity.

800
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: And I feel like you and youing, but particularly you

801
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: when you, I mean, how are you embraced by the

802
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: by the New York fans when you finally got there

803
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: first of all, the fans embraced me with open arms.

804
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: So I mean, I love I still love New York.

805
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I think the fans they're still loving me as well.

806
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: So we got New Yorker is here there. New York

807
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: is in the house. Okay, okay, okay, Milwaukee, man, I know,

808
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: I know, I know we're gonna talk about that. We

809
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: got a New Yorkers in the house. It's a majority

810
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: that people are in here from Milwaukee, right, all right,

811
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: we like that. We're gonna talk about the books. We're

812
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna talk about Jordy Nelson, and we're gonna talk about that.

813
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: Fuck Adrian Peterson. We're gonna get to them. We're gonna

814
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: get We're gonna get to play mckarsk and we're gonna

815
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: get to Paul mckatsky, Sydney mon Free, We're gonna get

816
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: to everybody. We're gonna do it for a few six

817
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: funds in a week. We're gonna do it all. I

818
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: think I have a new sick Funk of the week,

819
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: which is basically an award that is, it's not given,

820
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: so it's Nice's nice say you can't you know there's

821
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: a certain jenness a qua spree that is sick funk

822
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: of the weekend. I'll show you, but I'll get to that. Lady.

823
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I got a couple of friends that

824
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: might qualify. They're somewhere. Put your shirt on you, fuck you,

825
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: put you no, I'm talking, um, how are you feeling

826
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: so far? Spread? All right? Good? Because I'm telling you

827
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm so happy, uh that that that you came out

828
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: and talked because you know, I think, you know, honestly,

829
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: your your iconic player. Um, you know, and I feel

830
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: like there's so much to say. And one of the

831
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: things about your your run with the Knicks that I

832
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: thought was was so interesting is you know, Pat youing.

833
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: You know, as soon as he came onto the scene

834
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: of Georgetown, let's just say he wasn't missed a personality. Okay,

835
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: we could say that, you know, he he he made

836
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: Billy Belichick look like, you know, like a guy that

837
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: liked to speak to people, you know. So so I

838
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, for for whatever whatever the reason was,

839
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: you became and took on the role very well the

840
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: vocals for spokesperson of the Knicks. And I think for

841
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people, like I remember being like this

842
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: fucking guy, everybody breaks his balls. He deals with the press.

843
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: He's open with the press. And I say articulate, I mean, like,

844
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: you know, you were you were you were, you were

845
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: the person you were the face of the Knicks during

846
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: that time. Was that an adjustment for you? Was it challenge?

847
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: I think it was just me being honest and being

848
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: open forthcoming. I think when you're genuine people who have

849
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: a tendency to see it and you know how New

850
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: Yorkers are, they can see what do you mean how

851
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: you know? You know New Yorkers, they the New York

852
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: fan base, they do you know, you know, I know,

853
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know they could be belligerent, they could

854
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: be they could be uh so challenging. I just think

855
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: they see through any bs and and for me, I

856
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: was just always genuine and I think they appreciated that.

857
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: And and how many years did you did you play

858
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: with the Knicks? From two and and and when you

859
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: get to the Knicks and you know it's it's it's

860
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: the the strike? Was it a lockout? Strike? There's a

861
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: lot lockout So the beginning of we didn't play. We

862
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: didn't start playing until fair be weary of So so

863
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: what's happening, like what are you doing during that period

864
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: of time? And were you at the Infamous Players meeting? No,

865
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: I didn't make it to the Players meeting. I was

866
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: just at home. I was actually here, was just working out.

867
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: But because you know, there was a Famous Players meeting. Now,

868
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, I've heard this story from a few people

869
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: and I've had to repeat it where and and they've

870
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: talked about it openly. Where Charles Oakley smacked fire out

871
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: of Charles Barkley. Did you hear about this? Okay, but

872
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: you weren't at this famous player. You're in Vegas. They

873
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: were in Vegas. You heard about it? Yeah? I know

874
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: all about it. Okay, that's a true story, true story,

875
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: if you could believe it or not. I mean I

876
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: could believe it. But that shows you Oakley, it's about it,

877
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: about it. Yes, So so talk to me about what

878
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: went into so so that season short, you're you're itching

879
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: to play and then pat Ewing goes down. I don't

880
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: remember if it was in the playoffs or right before

881
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: the players and the next thing you know, you guys

882
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: are in in the playoffs kicking ass. Well, it was

883
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Actually, we got off to a slow

884
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: start that year. We didn't I mean we it was

885
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: high expectations and we weren't meeting meeting them at all.

886
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: We were eight seed when we barely got into the playoffs.

887
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: So we ended up playing Miami one versus eight. We

888
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: were I think the first, well the second one verse

889
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: eight seed to beat the number one seeds, right, and

890
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: that was the Allan Houston shot r. Yeah, yeah, he

891
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: got his past past them in Game five, so, I

892
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: mean it was I remember watching that game, uh and

893
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: when he made that shot, for some reason, I wound

894
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: up naked. I don't know how want what happened, but

895
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: as a Knicks fan, we had been through so much.

896
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: But I just but I remember I was watching it

897
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: in my apartment and then and then somehow like twenty

898
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: minutes and I was like, oh funk, where's my clothes?

899
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Like I didn't plan it these things. That's how I

900
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: felt on the court. I mean, but we didn't have

901
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: a good year that year. We were a ced, we

902
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: were we snunk it up pretty much. And when did

903
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: tackle down Pat went down against Indiana, I believe. And

904
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: who was on that Indiana team? Now, Reggie Miller. I

905
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: can't from Mark Jackson, Dale, Davis, Travis Best. Then with

906
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: those David's boys, Antonio and those were not nice guys

907
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: on the right, big physical They wanted to fuck some

908
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: ship up, right and they did? Yeah they yeah? So

909
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: so you get past them next, so you're you're what

910
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: was it like dealing with Reggie Miller in his prime?

911
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: Like what to talk to me about? Like Reggie Miller cover?

912
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: But the thing I hated about him, He's flopped he's

913
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: a flopper. He's always like he'll just fall down and

914
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: he's like, I like to stop flopping. Man, you can't

915
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: touch him. He's like he's always had the free throw line.

916
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you had to respect Reggie. He's he's actually

917
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: that running around screens and get if you left them open.

918
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: Obviously he's gonna knock down shots. If he got to

919
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: the line, he's gonna make his free throws. But you

920
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: just you couldn't touch him. You just really have to

921
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: be careful on how you cover them because if you

922
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: touched him at all, he's gonna act like he got

923
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: shot out of a candy. He's he's one of the

924
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: first people to start that he's the best, like the

925
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: kicks and all, because it wasn't it didn't. And so

926
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: when when you played, because you were so tenacious. But

927
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: but were you a ship talker? Because I don't like you.

928
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: You had such a like almost like a pitbull vibe,

929
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna funk with this guy. But were

930
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: you a talker? Were you not a talk I talk

931
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: probably more than anybody, did you, really except Michael Jordan's

932
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, all the time, all the

933
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: time we couldn't see it on the kid. Yeah I didn't.

934
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Well, yeah, that's how you get

935
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: you can tell, you getting somebody's head, and you know

936
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: you can tell. I know. That's that's because if my

937
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: skills were nothing, but I could talk ship with the

938
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: best of them, you gotta be able to back it up,

939
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: though I know not necessarily couldn't me this far couldn't

940
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: back it up. I couldn't back it up. But you know,

941
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: if if I had good pieces around me, I could

942
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: talk ship so much that the other good pieces they

943
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: could shine. That's that's one of the reasons why I

944
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: love fantasy football so much. Do you like fantasy? I

945
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: love fantasy, I love football in general. You have fantasy football.

946
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm to put you on the spot. You could say, no, motherfucker,

947
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: but what would you play in my fantasy football league? Ship?

948
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: Hold on? Hold on now, I'm gonna tell you something.

949
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: You said you were a ship talker. Now this is

950
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 1: where fantasy football okay, because I know for a fact

951
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not actually playing. It's not actually my team.

952
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: It's a low stack. I like the lower stakes, the game,

953
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: the higher stakes, the ship talking. I don't play for money.

954
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: It's like two edgy. If it's nothing, it's for truly.

955
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: Remember that ABC Wild world Wide World of Sports commercial.

956
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: The thrill of victory and then the defeat is having

957
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: to listen to me. Okay, and I know, and it's

958
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: easy to talk ship when you win. I'm actually at

959
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: my best. If you kick my ass somehow or another,

960
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn it around on you and and being

961
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: you be be in your mind all the week. So

962
00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna oh my god, this is a great night. Yeah,

963
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: come on, this is this continent. Yes, packer, you know,

964
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: I know, I I can see it. I mean and listen,

965
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: I like, I told you, like, I literally almost started

966
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: a riot last night bringing up I know that. You

967
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: know they're serious about it. We're back. He's talking and

968
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: you said you had Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback, right, Yes,

969
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: I had Aaron Rodgers. Is my quarterback? Lass here And

970
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: despite that that his white guy with the engine, Jordy

971
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: Nelson wasn't there, he still did good. I love I

972
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: love I love Jordy, I love Eddie Lacy, God bless him.

973
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: And to keep him away from the donut shop road tie.

974
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: Let's go that that that that that's uh, I'm so

975
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: fucking excited. You're gonna play fantasy football. Oh my goodness,

976
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: this is gonna be fantastic. So what what do you

977
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: think of what? Like what you you told me that

978
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: you you you know some of the Green Bay Packers

979
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: like you hang out with them. What do you think

980
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: of the Packers this season? I think we will be good.

981
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care what happens. I'm gonna back

982
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: the Packers regardless. I don't care. But especially I was

983
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: stoked though when we drafted Eddie, especially from him going

984
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: to Alabama, right, yeah, I thought because we could have

985
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: got him in the first round and we actually passed

986
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: on him, so I didn't think we were going to

987
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: get him, and then we ended up getting them in

988
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: the second round. So I was man. I literally got

989
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: up and ran around my house. Now you you said

990
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: you've seen him lately. Now did he have a cheeseburger

991
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: in one hand? You're just this fucking guy like kissing.

992
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: Wait wait, haven't seen him lately? Fucking your list and

993
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: you saw him last year he should have been doing commercially.

994
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: Love him. I love him. I I like the package.

995
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: You want to start a riot. Well, who watches the Bachelorette.

996
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: You know nobody, but you no, no, no, they know

997
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: why because there's a guy on there. I'm watching the

998
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: Bachelorette and I'm looking at this guy and I'm like,

999
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: he looked so familiar. And then I hear them say, oh,

1000
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: he used to play football. This guy to easy. We'll

1001
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: talk about the house Hey, hey, do I come to do?

1002
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: I come to your job when you're shoveling ship down

1003
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: the sheet? Kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's

1004
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: just stock cline. I appreciate that you came. You have

1005
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: no idea. I gotta keep control of the audience. I'm

1006
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: talking about the housewives. I'm talking about the Vikings. I've

1007
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: gotta keep control of the fucking show. And we're here

1008
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: just playing. You're gonna ask, We're gonna have all kinds

1009
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: of questions. But but you know that Aaron Rodgers hasn't

1010
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: a strange brother. Who's who's on the Bachelorette trying to

1011
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: freak off? Which to me, the Bachelorette. You gotta think

1012
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: about this, think about like you've been in the media,

1013
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: You've done everything you you possibly could. Just sort of

1014
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: get away from the media, take a break the last

1015
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: few years. This fucking guy goes on a show with

1016
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: some chick to potentially get married, and his whole agenda

1017
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: is to shoot on his brother, who's Aaron Rodgers. I'm like,

1018
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: and the girl might marry this fucking guy. I just

1019
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: think it's crazy. You that missing much, Okay, but if

1020
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: you're bored at night, it's good TV. Um alright, so

1021
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: so so you said, you said, Adie Lacy. He's looking good.

1022
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: He's looking real good right now? All right, all right,

1023
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: he's looking leaning alright good. I want him to do good.

1024
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: I want him to do good. I'm a fan. I'm

1025
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: a fan, all right, so I know I'm a pocket fan.

1026
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: Last night I was a Vikings fan. I'm not stupid.

1027
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: We don't we don't want two super Bowls. Motherfuck. We

1028
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: don't want to. We weren't bowing the Giants. They were

1029
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: bowing the Vikings. Okay, okay, okay, let's keep let's keep

1030
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: things under control, all right, So we're taking the funk

1031
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: the Vikings man fun Minnesota. Fucko wait, fucome how many

1032
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: super bowls? Vikings got zero? They have zero? Zero? All right?

1033
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: That fuck him? Anna to be totally honest. Tomorrow, No

1034
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: Sunday night is the the the the final city of

1035
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: of this particular I am Rapp Reports Stereo podcast three

1036
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: City World Tour, and I'm gonna be straight up with

1037
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 1: you guys. I'm gonna be straight up with you guys.

1038
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: We're performing in Chicago Sundays. I know, I know it's

1039
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: Sunday night. I'm gonna be like the fun Green Bay.

1040
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just playing. I'll just playing. Jesus Christ.

1041
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: Holy sh it, man, I'm saying. Last day, I you know,

1042
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: everybody say everything is so politically driven, and I didn't

1043
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: want to talk about politics. And I didn't want to

1044
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: talk about politics because at these shows, you know you

1045
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: don't want to. It's religion and politics are the things

1046
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: you want to stay away from. But once I said,

1047
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: the packers that I should have been talking could have

1048
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: been like, you know, Donald Trump's my biggest friend. You know,

1049
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I'm just telling you that these

1050
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: fucking guys in Minnesota, as much as you don't like them,

1051
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: they don't like they was there. Let's than twenty four

1052
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: hours ago. Let's stay focused. In went to the fucking

1053
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: finals in ninety nine focus and who's the guy that

1054
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: bucks to fucking kickoff? Okay, so the Nicks played the

1055
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: the the Indiana Pacers. What was I think? I think

1056
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: I've actually might have went. I'm pretty sure I actually

1057
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: might have went. Yeah, I did go to one of

1058
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: the games in Indiana, that's that series. I think I

1059
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: flew there on a plane. I'm not name dropping, but

1060
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: I got a phone call from Spike Lee, who, by

1061
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: the way, you want to talk about a craze fan,

1062
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: This fucking guy everywhere never misses a game. And I

1063
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: think he was like, yo, I got a seat on

1064
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: the plane. You could come in the next thing. Ye know,

1065
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: we're in Indiana and you want to talk about a

1066
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: rowdy bunch out there. I threw beer on us on

1067
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: the way out there. And all the all the cities

1068
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: you played and throughout your career, who would you say

1069
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: are the most hostile fans? What city that was? Well,

1070
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: that was the playoffs, so that in that you're in Indiapolis,

1071
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: for sure, they were there. Yeah, they were throwing things

1072
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: out as well. They were in Miami. We make them

1073
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: in the games. Have never thrown quarters on the floor too,

1074
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: so Miami. Yet they were pist like that in India.

1075
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: But Indiana there were there were no joke, right, I

1076
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: mean some other ship it was to you feel that

1077
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: that let me say, that make America great vibe? Right,

1078
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: that make America great vibe. Which I've had a lot

1079
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: of questions, like I'm not a big political person, but

1080
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get into politics. Vote who

1081
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: you want to vote for. Listen, I don't want to

1082
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: get nuts. He said that Mike Pennship one of my

1083
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: favorite white people with no lips. I love them, no lips.

1084
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: But but but the the this whole make America great thing.

1085
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: You know again, I don't care who you vote for.

1086
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: That's that's your own thing. This isn't the place in time.

1087
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: But like we've been curious, like do we want to

1088
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: go back to what year we were? Ye? Motherfucker's talking

1089
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: about eight nineteen six Steves that when it was great? No,

1090
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: that was that was things sucked for everybody. We don't

1091
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: want to do free labor. So I don't understand the

1092
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: We gotta go forward collectively across the board, forward forward again.

1093
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: It's great now, all right, So so so talk to

1094
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: me about that that run and with the spurs and

1095
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: that that that finals. When I say that, when when

1096
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: you first when I say talk about that, what first

1097
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: comes into your mind the fact that we didn't have Patrick,

1098
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: I mean, going against David Robinson and Tim Duncan, we

1099
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: needed Patrick. Was we were at a disadvantage. And I

1100
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: think that's the one thing that the one thing that

1101
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: sticks out for me is just wondering what that finals

1102
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: would have been like if we had had Patrick. But

1103
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: don't you think something sort of happened to the team,

1104
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: Like it's like, obviously you needed Patrick, you know you

1105
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: needed Patrick. But I remember and my memory isn't you

1106
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: know that good with with the details of games like

1107
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: some people, some people can remember every single detail about

1108
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: every game and every moment. But because of that team

1109
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: was so under man it seemed like, you know, it

1110
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: was like us against the world, and you guys found

1111
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: some sort of interesting chemistry, you know, Like I I

1112
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: wonder if Patrick had been there, would you have even

1113
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: been able to get because other people stepped on We

1114
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: definitely needed Patrick. I mean, we wouldn't have gotten past

1115
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: Miami or Indiana Atlanta. I mean, we swept those guys

1116
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: in round two, but when we played Indiana in round three,

1117
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a battle. It was

1118
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: a grind and and that's when Patrick got hurt. Our

1119
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: thin game five or six, so we were able to

1120
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: squeak that one out and we didn't have them for

1121
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: the finals at all, So I mean we needed them now.

1122
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: When you're going into games, like as a professional player

1123
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: and you know you everybody's playing for its life and

1124
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: death and you're planning against the Spurs and you know

1125
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: you're under man. Are you thinking we can beat them,

1126
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: or you're thinking we need to figure out how to

1127
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: beat them, or you just thinking, like ship, we're just

1128
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna take it a game and a time, like were

1129
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: you guys, Was there a party that thought we could

1130
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: actually beat these guys? Well, we always felt like we

1131
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: could win. Um, you never to go into a game

1132
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: feeling like you're already defeated. So we always felt like

1133
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: we could win. But we knew it was gonna be

1134
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: uphill battle, especially without Patrick, So even if he was there,

1135
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: Like you said that the Spurs were good that year,

1136
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean you got Tim Duncan coming in and then

1137
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: he was He's I mean, what can you say, He's

1138
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: one of the best part forwards of all time? Was

1139
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: that his rookie year. I believe it was rookie year

1140
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: or a second year, I'm not I'm not sure, but

1141
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean off the glass turn around, and we had

1142
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: nobody that could even contest the shot. I mean, LJ

1143
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: was gardening. Lj's my height, and he's garden. He's not

1144
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: that big elm, he's not, he's not at all. So

1145
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: I mean we had advantages as far as spacing the

1146
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: floor out and and as far as the three point line,

1147
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: but inside they just pounded us and we didn't have

1148
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: any answer for that. And how hard is it to

1149
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: sort of stomach losing when you've busted your asshole season

1150
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: you fought fort fort fort fort and then you know,

1151
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: you're like, yo, it's just like, I mean, how how

1152
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: long does it take to, like, for for for you

1153
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: to get over You never get over it. You never

1154
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: get over it, never never get over it. I mean,

1155
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: you work so hard and you're right there. I mean,

1156
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: you're right there, So I still think about it. I've

1157
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: never yeah, absolutely, like just think the game, the time,

1158
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: or the opportunity like or the details, you know, for

1159
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: some people like Robert or I mean, how many players

1160
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: are that lucky? You know, what I mean, it just

1161
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I mean, getting the championship is uh, it's

1162
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: something very special. And when you dream about it as

1163
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: a kid, dream about being in that situation, and you

1164
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: actually have a chance to obtain it, but you fall short.

1165
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: Uh you never get over that, Okay. And and and

1166
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: so let's talk about the culture of New York at

1167
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: the time you got Jay z Is becoming the biggest

1168
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: rapper ever. He's still you know, there's still other people

1169
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: I I you know, but but I mean, like that

1170
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: whole platinum error I called the platinum mirror because you know,

1171
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: like the golden errors, like great great records, you know,

1172
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: platinum music. It just didn't happen with hip hop. But

1173
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: then at a certain point with Puffy and yeah, like

1174
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: it just went into a whole Ever, So what is

1175
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: it like being a young dude and the star and

1176
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: the face of the franchise and you were so embraced

1177
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: by the hip hop culture. The hip hop culture loved you,

1178
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: and you probably are a fan of these dudes. What

1179
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 1: is it like being in New York? And and also

1180
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: you had taken on this weird sort of like correct

1181
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: me from from what was it Tommy he'll figure who

1182
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: like came on the court while during a game. I

1183
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever can Calvin Klein, like, people

1184
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: were like obsessed with you, Like so, so do you

1185
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: remember that that game? Like what then? During that game

1186
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: it was I was like something, this is just a

1187
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: drunk guy just gets up out the road. It's like

1188
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: walking over to me and I'm looking at security like

1189
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: are you gonna get this guy? I had no idea

1190
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: who he was, but so did. Like what was going

1191
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: on at that? Like what was it like being Latrells

1192
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: bre Rod in New York? You know, being like everybody

1193
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: like you were the fucking dude Michael Jackson, Right, I

1194
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: can't explain it. I mean, what can you say? I

1195
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: was flattered obviously. I mean, like I said, when you're

1196
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: going through these things, you don't really realize what it's like.

1197
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: You're just in the moment and you're enjoying it. Obviously.

1198
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: I was out partying and hanging out with some of

1199
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: these guys and just having to fund just having fun,

1200
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: enjoying it. Like I said, when you look back on it, though,

1201
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, you know all of this stuff happened.

1202
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Was actually me, you know. And

1203
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: and then one of the more iconic things about the

1204
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: nineties was the rims, and of course one of I

1205
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: think a stroke of genius the spree wall spinners. So

1206
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: talk to me about You can take a sip of

1207
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: water if you want, so, talk to me about how

1208
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: that came about, Like, was that like your idea? Was

1209
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: that a business idea? Because I remember going, this is

1210
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: a fucking great idea. No other person should have spree

1211
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: wall spinners besides Latruse. Actually it was a company called Diving.

1212
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: They brought the idea to me. They couldn't get anybody

1213
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: to help push the idea, and I thought it was

1214
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: a great idea, like you said, and so I just

1215
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: ran with it. Actually did a MTV Cribs special and

1216
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: I had the rims on the set on the car

1217
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: and spun the wheels while the car was sitting there,

1218
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: and then from there the thing it just took off

1219
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: and it was crazy and so like it became like

1220
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: a phenomenon, right, Yeah, Well, Dovin got all pissed because

1221
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: everybody called him Spreeze, So that kind of what's the name,

1222
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: don do? Nobody knows who thee? Yeah, sorry, dovin. I

1223
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: don't know where the funk you are, but listen, you

1224
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: went to the man, you got the man, and they're

1225
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: they're not The dovn Spreeze doesn't. It doesn't have that

1226
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: sort of flare as its free wall spinners, all right.

1227
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1246
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: so you're you're in you leave New York. The city

1247
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: is heartbroken. Things have had, things haven't been the same

1248
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: with the Nick Sense by the way, that was that

1249
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: was as good as it's guy, And it's been a

1250
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: ship show since. Well, they made some good moves this year.

1251
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: We'll see. We got a lot of ifs. And I

1252
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: heard they're bringing in a like a tremendous ice bath

1253
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: because like everybody's like everything they want, like a team

1254
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: ice bath, like the Ice Path boys. So, so what

1255
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: was it like being in Minnesota with that team? That team,

1256
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: Sam Cassell, KG and you you guys were the big three?

1257
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: You you you you? You wind up a couple of

1258
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: years after being there, you wind up pushing to the

1259
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: Western Conference finals. You lose. So what's this kid's name

1260
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: on the Lakers? Come on, Coobe, right, Cobobe Cobe? So

1261
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: what what was that What was that like you know

1262
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: that team that run and like just again coming so

1263
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: close and what was the culture of that team? That team? Actually,

1264
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: that's one of my fondest memories in the NBA is

1265
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: playing on that team. How come because it's the continuity,

1266
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: like everyone got along. I don't think we had one

1267
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: player on that team that didn't like someone else. Okay,

1268
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean we were really a unit and we played

1269
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: that way. We led the NBA and wins that year. Um.

1270
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: The thing that stings the most that year's injuries. Again,

1271
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: Troy Hudson got hurt, so he didn't play the entire year.

1272
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: And then we when we got into the playoffs against

1273
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals, then Sam Sam

1274
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: went down, so we didn't have a point guard. We

1275
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: had to bring a point guard off the street, so

1276
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 1: we we didn't really have a point guard at that time.

1277
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: And I think if we had if we had Sam,

1278
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we advanced if we have Sam, because

1279
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: we took him the game six and lost in Game

1280
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: six in l A. But if we had Sam, I

1281
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: think we definitely wouldn't went past them. And what was

1282
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: that what was that Laker team like going against them?

1283
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: Like who who who was on that team? Uh, well

1284
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: that's the year they got it, brought in Gary and

1285
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: Karl Malone and then they had Shack and used to

1286
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: be Yeah, but still I mean they were still a

1287
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: good team. You know, they were there that year. The

1288
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: thing that pisces me off about that after they beat US,

1289
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: they played Detroit and that's when Kobe just pretty much

1290
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: through the finals. I like, he just shot everything and

1291
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't play team basketball. What was that like?

1292
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: So when you see something like that, there's been so

1293
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: much talk about that particular season, like there was so

1294
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: much dysfunction with that Lakers And when you say, I know,

1295
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: you don't mean it literally throw the finals. But when

1296
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: you're watching that as a fan, like what's going I'm

1297
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: thinking he should have just did that against us? Like

1298
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: we could have got Why why not doing in the

1299
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: West Finals? Why way to the finals? Well? What is it?

1300
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: What are you hearing around the league, because you guys

1301
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: all know each other, you know somebody that's played on

1302
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: that team, Like what do you hear like that dysfunction

1303
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: with that particular Leaker team that season? Like what what

1304
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: is that? Is that? Kobe just being like fucking I mean,

1305
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: I know you're not on that team, but when you're playing,

1306
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't know what was going on with

1307
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: those guys. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

1308
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: I really honestly, I don't. I don't. I don't know

1309
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: what their deal was. I know, you know, when they

1310
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: played us, they competed, and then you know, they did

1311
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: enough to get past us. I don't know why they

1312
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: went into the finals and dismantled. They were dismantled. I

1313
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: don't know what the deal was when they played against Detroit.

1314
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: But you know, Detroit got the wind, so they didn't

1315
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: play Detroit the way they played us, right, And but

1316
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean Detroit, I was so sure, like Detroit, what

1317
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: are they gonna do? And they just they just beat

1318
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: the ship out of uh, they just beat the ship

1319
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: out of him. Um, all right, listen, Jordan, where are you? Jordan?

1320
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: Where are you? Yo? I want to I want to

1321
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: open up to take some some questions for some people.

1322
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: How's everybody feeling? Everybody feeling good? So so let me

1323
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: get a water. G Jordy, you got the mike, you

1324
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: got a questions you could ask questions for me. You

1325
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: could ask questions of spree. I'll d any I yellow

1326
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: you you Cox sucker. Don't you fucking interrupt my fucking show.

1327
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: You tell them tell them about you. Fuck. I'm up

1328
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: here with its pretty cock, sucker, don't you interrupt me.

1329
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: Bush your fucking hood. You got the Spreewald jerseys. That

1330
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: a Spreewald jersey. Yeah, go to s Yeah that let's

1331
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: talk about the brain. Yeah, let's talk let's you are

1332
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: so talk to me about I think that. Iverson also

1333
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 1: said that he started rocking braids because of you. Talk

1334
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: to me about that. That was such an iconic thing,

1335
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: like your look, your demeanor on the court, like your disposition.

1336
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: That's pure blackness, that's what it is. But like you

1337
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: came in in the league, you had it shaved down.

1338
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: Then you had like, you know a middle game afro.

1339
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: You know that there's that change period, like like the

1340
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: in between things and the next thing, you know, you

1341
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: braid it up. You're like you would almost like hurt

1342
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: yourself when you were dunk, Like it would just wouldn't

1343
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: just be the ball would be like your arms, like

1344
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: you get a foot stuck in there and there's just

1345
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: this tenaci And then they would go to commercial and

1346
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: then we would be like, Yo, that's pre Who is

1347
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: this fucking guy? What I mean? Like what I mean?

1348
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: I know it's probably like you know not like I know,

1349
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: it's not a thought out thing, but like, were you aware,

1350
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: like at the time, like the braids in the NBA,

1351
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: because because at the time there was this was this

1352
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: pre dress code or post dress dress code. This is

1353
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: pre dress code. Alright, you all questions? Then mother is

1354
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: looking like Kayla Jenna, motherfuck what what what do you think? Like?

1355
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: So what were you thinking? Like, Yo, I'm gonna braid

1356
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: my ship? Have had you rocked braids before? We're like, so,

1357
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: were you just lazy? Like was not a bit different?

1358
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: You know, when you're young, you know, you do stuff

1359
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: trying to be different. I think I probably had seeing

1360
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: some kids in college doing it, so I was like, yeah,

1361
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, let me, I just want to be different.

1362
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: So you know, I just tried it and it worked

1363
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I mean, because it was so iconic

1364
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: at the time in the a lot of people didn't

1365
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: like it, right, A lot of people. I mean there's

1366
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: so much they did anyone ever say yo, No one

1367
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: ever says to you, yo, it's too black, right, Yeah?

1368
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: There's there's like two black there's anyone saying that. And also,

1369
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: what do you think of the dress code? Because again

1370
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: I think that when they first did the dress code,

1371
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was probably paying this, but I think

1372
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 1: dudes adjusted, dudes came in, they were chilling with their suits,

1373
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: and now all hell has broken loose. Yeah, I don't know,

1374
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: isn't I don't know what you called what happened to

1375
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: the dress code? Like look at West Root. I don't

1376
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: think with the NBA everything is like fashion forward now

1377
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: so backwards, and so I think they're just a little

1378
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: more relaxed now because and I mean even in the NFL,

1379
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: this fucking guy Ezekiel had a stomach. It's not the

1380
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: swimsuit issue. Man, you're getting draft did in the NBA.

1381
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: But you think Jim Brown, we're looking at this motherfucker

1382
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: would say this one bucker came to the draft with

1383
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: his stomach. Account that's wrong. See people know alright, So

1384
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: so mar Jordan, where are you at? All? Right? So

1385
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: go ahead? First question? Thanks free, Thank you, Michael. Two

1386
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: good questions and I'll let you answer. Uh. First question,

1387
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand two game against the Box.

1388
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: You were at the Knicks double overtime game. I think

1389
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 1: you scored fifty. I'm just wondering if that ranks on

1390
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: your top five game. Second question, or did Sam Cassell

1391
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: rank on your all time teammates list? Well? Question one,

1392
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:55,839
Speaker 1: it was forty eight double overtime and um, absolutely, it's definitely.

1393
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: And I would say top two or three games for me,

1394
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: just because as I was here in Milwaukee and I

1395
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: love to do well here in front of my hometown

1396
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: family and fans, woke and to play. And Sam is

1397
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: probably my favorite teammate and I love that guy. We

1398
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: still talk to that do you do you speak to

1399
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: him all the time? You know, it's a funny story.

1400
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: I got uh somehow or another. I always feel like

1401
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: when this happens, like I feel like I snuck in,

1402
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: but I actually didn't have to sneak. And I went

1403
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: to a Clippers practice, and I told you, I talked

1404
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: a lot of ship. So they had a ping pong

1405
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: table and I've seen Sam playing one of the ball boys.

1406
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: And I've seen Sam around and I was like, yo,

1407
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: you're playing the ball, but like I'll bust your ass Sam,

1408
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: And he was like, wait for me after practice, and

1409
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: and and and fucking Sam Cassell is good at ping pong.

1410
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: Man bust my ass. And you know he likes to

1411
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: talk a lot of ship. But but but I had

1412
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: him on the ropes and I walked out of the

1413
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: game losing. But that motherfucker looked like he was in

1414
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: a sauna. He was profusely sweating, super competitive, super competitive,

1415
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: and he was actually really good at ping pong. So

1416
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: if you walk up on Sam Cassell thinking like it's

1417
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be sweet, it's not gonna be sweet when

1418
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: he's playing paint. So what what, dudes in the NBA,

1419
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: are you still friendly with little Sam kg Um? I'm

1420
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 1: kind of to myself. No, Like I said, I stepped

1421
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: away from it. Only keep in touch with a handful

1422
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 1: of guys. But when I see I know what happens,

1423
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: Like guys are out at the club when they come

1424
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: into town and I'll see them and it's like, hey,

1425
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 1: what's up. You know we're not calling each other, but

1426
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: I see I'll see a lot of the guys out.

1427
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: I got you. So I feel like kg like he's

1428
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: he's a personality to that, Like I can't get a

1429
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: read on Like he talked about talking ship, he's up there.

1430
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: Imagine that him myself and saying on the same team, right,

1431
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: so you you guys could have played with four dudes

1432
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: like dudes have been like I just kid, I want

1433
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: these guys to shut the funk up, Like, I mean,

1434
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: that's crazy, like the three of you together exactly and

1435
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So if KG into it with someone like

1436
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: Sam and myself, we were there instantly like yeah, well

1437
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: we were like this, okay, all right, what's the next

1438
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 1: what's the next question? I can't see? Uh okay, So Spree,

1439
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. T Max seems to

1440
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 1: think the league is soft. If you had Lebron, Curry, Westbrooks,

1441
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: some of these guys playing back in the nineties, what

1442
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: would you think. I don't think the league is soft.

1443
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: I think they they just changed the rules so you

1444
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: can't really blame the players. Is something I think the

1445
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: league wants the scoring up? So is it something that

1446
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: they've done more than anything? Hand checking, zoning, Certain things

1447
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: that they've done rule wise has has made a difference

1448
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: in the game. But I don't think the guys are

1449
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: soft by any means. What's the next one? How does

1450
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: one legitimately determine whether or not his Fox styllars buck Wild. Again,

1451
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 1: this is not anything graphic or sexual. It's a certain confidence, Okay,

1452
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: a certain jennessy quad. That's a great question. Um, how

1453
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: do you determine if your Fox style is Buckwall? And

1454
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: it's again, you're having a Fox style that's buck Wall

1455
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: is not just sexual, that's just about life. Like the

1456
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: Iron Rapp Reports stereo podcast, fox style is buck Wall?

1457
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: Am I right? How we can do? But I can

1458
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: tell you this. The game is to be sold, not told.

1459
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: All right, let me get another question. How are you feeling?

1460
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: My First of all, uh, I've always enjoyed your acting career,

1461
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: and thank you, thank you fantastic the trail ninety nine

1462
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: May and ninety nine I got a new car and

1463
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: uh it was a black Pontiac Rand. Damn. I'm a

1464
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: big Knicks fan, grew up in Connecticut. Time you can't

1465
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: tell the trou let's want to tell it trou that

1466
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: what's the fucking question? Hey, it's not a question. I

1467
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: name all my cars, Okay, I name all my cars,

1468
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: and that car that years spree, I named the car

1469
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: spread Okay, Okay, that's not a question. Thank you, though

1470
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: I appreciate it's that's good that you all right, what's

1471
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: the next question, Dave? Is this is this? Is this

1472
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: well moral? I mean, you've never done a live interview,

1473
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: and this is pretty this is pretty nuts. Right, I'm

1474
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: having fun? Okay, good, good. As long as you're having fun,

1475
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm happy. We love Spree, man. I think we should

1476
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: do La Troll Sprewell on Broadway. We need to bring

1477
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: this ship to Broadway. Fuck Hamilton. Then we got Spree. Well, okay,

1478
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: go ahead, rap rap. This is Hector Sanchez, the Beaner

1479
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: with the Wiener, the Mexican don Wan. The question is

1480
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: and uh a few good, I mean men of honor?

1481
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: What was your character's name? You were from Wisconsin, you

1482
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: played with Cuba Gooden and um, Robert de Niro? Yes,

1483
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: so what was the question? Again? What was your character's name?

1484
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: We didn't hear what you said, Bunny, your character's name? Okay,

1485
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: I I can't. I'll remember the character's name shortly. Um,

1486
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this. You know, when when Spreewald

1487
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: talks about, you know, playing against Jordan's and people he

1488
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 1: grew up with, when I got to work with Robert

1489
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: de Niro, you want to talk about starstruck and having

1490
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: to be professional and sort of having a chick because

1491
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: you're you're having an outer body experience. I'm sure similar

1492
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: because you've watched him your whole life so much, and

1493
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: and you at a certain point you have to be like,

1494
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, the only way to really garner respect because

1495
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: you want him walking away being like, yo, this kid

1496
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: was good and and the only way to do that

1497
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: is to bring it to him. And and Robert de Niro,

1498
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: a funny story about him is like he's one of

1499
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: the most introverted people there is. He's so shy, genuinely,

1500
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: and he's so sort of morphs into the environment that

1501
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: he's in that the first time I saw him, I

1502
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: walked right past him, like he just morphs into the wall.

1503
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but what we were doing,

1504
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: Men of Honor. We we we shot. We shot a

1505
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: scene late late late, like two three in the morning,

1506
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: and De Niro apparently was going to get on a

1507
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: private plane and fly home. And and I finished my

1508
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: scenes about three in the morning and went right to

1509
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: the airport. And I was like, you know, I was

1510
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: on the plane. I had my sunglasses on. I was

1511
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be sitting in first class and I

1512
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: was like, just there was no there was the the

1513
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: plane was packed, and and the whole time I had

1514
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 1: worked with DeNiro and Copland and men of honor, I

1515
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: couldn't get anything from him. You know, I'm trying to,

1516
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: you know, talk to him. I get nothing. I get

1517
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 1: no stick man stories. I get nothing. And all I

1518
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: want is like I've been up all my working and

1519
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: and there's one seat next to ment. I'm like, just

1520
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: take off. I want to go to sleep. Just take off.

1521
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: I want to go to sleep. And as the plane

1522
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: is about the you know, uh, you know, shut down,

1523
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: I see a guy walking. I'm like, holy shit, that

1524
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 1: looks like DeNiro. Then I'm like, holy ship, it is DeNiro.

1525
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: And I had already scoped out that the only open

1526
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: seat was mine because I was gonna lay down in

1527
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: this ship. And next thing, you know, Robert de Niro

1528
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: is sitting next to me. All I want to do

1529
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: is sleep. And the guy that wouldn't speak the whole time,

1530
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: he's talking my fucking ears off on this flight from

1531
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: New York, asking me about this one. And I was

1532
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: remember I was reading a Vibe magazine and he's like,

1533
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: do you notice girl? And I was like, how the funk,

1534
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: would I know where? It's a so bad bob and

1535
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: he just and I had I walked through the airport.

1536
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,839
Speaker 1: I'm carrying Robert DeNiro's bag. This is like my idol

1537
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: and you know, like the person that was there to

1538
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: escort and wasn't there. I was like, I'll carry you

1539
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: bags like I'm like almost like feeling like I'm protecting

1540
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 1: Robert DeNiro. We're walking through the Airport's no one says

1541
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: shipped to Robert DeNiro. They keep saying Mike grab my

1542
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: grab back group because he like morphs into the pain.

1543
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: So that was my Robert DeNiro ship. All right, we'll

1544
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: take one more question and I'm gonna get back into

1545
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: it with with with free Latrell. When did you find

1546
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: out the Gringo man Dingo was looking for you on

1547
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: the show and it's been searching you all since the

1548
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: first episode and there's been in love with you know Bruno. Okay,

1549
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: so so so I don't know if you know about

1550
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: my my, my, my, my alias. They called me the

1551
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: Gringo man Dingo. I'll tell you how this story went down.

1552
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 1: I I had been talking about calm down, Calm down, motherfucker,

1553
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: calm you ask so. So the way the way I

1554
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: holy shit, I do you get question time? You don't

1555
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: say any think they let me finish the story. So

1556
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: the way I actually we we connected is we had

1557
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: once we we found out we were actually coming to

1558
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: Milwaukee the Beauty of the Internet. We talked about it

1559
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: on the podcast. And then and then somebody associated with

1560
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: you had heard that we were coming, and I wanted

1561
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: to interview Lacharle Spree well and and and I I

1562
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: got an email from I can't remember who when I said, please,

1563
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,560
Speaker 1: either you call me or have Spree call me. And

1564
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: then I get a phone call from like an area

1565
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 1: code and I don't know who it is. And I

1566
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: pick up the phone, which I don't normally do, and

1567
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 1: I picked up. I'm like hello, and he's like is

1568
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: this Mike? And I'm like, who's this. He's like, this

1569
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: is Spree And I'm like, who the fund is this?

1570
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: He's like this is it's Spree And I'm like I'm

1571
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: thinking it's like him or like my mom or something,

1572
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: and he's like I'm like who is He's like, it's

1573
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: Latrell Spree. Well, then I recognized with something, Holy sh it.

1574
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: You know how you know how you doing. And then

1575
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: we we talked about doing this and and like I

1576
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: said earlier, you know, I I feel like, you know,

1577
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: there's been so sort of uh misconstruted about spree and

1578
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, and I told him what my intentions were

1579
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: and and here we are and and uh, you know,

1580
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Broadway and takedown Hamilton's icon NBA basketball.

1581
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 1: So so I'll get to it. So so when you

1582
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: look back at your career, you know, the good, the

1583
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: bad and the in between, like what do you think,

1584
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 1: like is there things you would have done different? Like?

1585
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 1: Is there things you would have handled different? Like? You know,

1586
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: because I was thinking about it, I was like, you know,

1587
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: like you just get sort of inserted in this life

1588
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: and everything's going fast, and there's money and there's access

1589
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: there you know, there's no longer. I mean, they're you're

1590
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: you're you go into the locker room, your shoes are tied.

1591
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: You when your ankle hurts, they give you a nice

1592
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 1: bath like and then you know, and then there's just

1593
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: like this whirlwind. So now that you're an older dude,

1594
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: and like, are you look back and like, funk I

1595
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: wish I had handled this differently? I would have done

1596
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 1: this different. Like, what do you think back when you

1597
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: think of your legacy as an NBA player? I mean,

1598
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: what can you say? Of course there are things you

1599
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: would do differently when you when you look bad in

1600
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: your life, But I mean then you wouldn't be the

1601
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: person that you are if you hadn't learned those lessons though.

1602
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: So for me, I mean, I'm I'm just thankful that

1603
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: I was able to come from the north side of

1604
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: Milwaukee and to be able to, you know, go to

1605
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 1: an NBA finals as we play against Michael Jordan's you know,

1606
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: accomplished some of these things that I've accomplished in life.

1607
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't I'm I'm just like I said,

1608
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: I'm just glad I was able to make it through

1609
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: and and have as much as fun and as much

1610
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: success as I did. Have you ever gotten like talk

1611
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: to like about, you know, like being like a part

1612
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: of a friends with whether it's a Bucks Because I

1613
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: feel like somebody like you who played in your era,

1614
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: who's so iconic, who who players still look up to,

1615
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: like like, I feel like you would be a great

1616
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: like I don't even know if it would be a

1617
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: coach or a mentor or like just to tell these

1618
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: dudes when they come in and their nineteen and they're

1619
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: not even shaving yet. Like Kristap Porzingis, he's a fucking twenty.

1620
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: This other dude from Duke he I don't think he's

1621
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: went through full full puberty. These kids come in so young.

1622
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 1: We played four years. They're one and done. Now. You know,

1623
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: I play it all four years in college. So I mean,

1624
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 1: and you hear about the mistakes they make. I go,

1625
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: of course they're gonna make mistakes. They're on the road

1626
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. They got two three four broads at night.

1627
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,879
Speaker 1: Things are getting crazy. It's going so fast. You're in Miami,

1628
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: you're on uh, you know, back to back down there.

1629
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: God only knows the type of ship they're getting into.

1630
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: Like a guy like you, I'm thinking like if you

1631
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: could be like sort of telling like they're gonna make

1632
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: the mistakes and the decisions they want, but like to

1633
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: kind of be like, look, this is how you sort

1634
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 1: of like the game plan and sort of because they

1635
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: don't give you like a manual for somebody is their

1636
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: own person. You can tell a person something a thousand times.

1637
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna do what they want. To do regardless,

1638
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: but you can try to guide them and point them

1639
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: in the right direction. But ultimately, you know the person

1640
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: you have to you have to make smart decisions and

1641
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: do the right things. So, so you're a Milwaukee dude.

1642
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,560
Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Bucks have made some some great moves. You

1643
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: got Jabari, you got you got the Greek freak, Larry Standers, Yeah,

1644
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: Michael Carter, you got out the big man. What's the

1645
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: dude name? Greg Monroe? The Nicks dropped the ball within Yeah.

1646
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, Jason Kidd is the coach.

1647
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: This is somebody you were You were out there, you

1648
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: were going up against this dude. What do you think Jason?

1649
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: When he was at Cow and my first or second

1650
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: year at Golden State, he was still at Cow. That's

1651
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: when I first met Jason Kidd at a club in Oakland.

1652
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: What was going on to that club that night? Was

1653
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: it a good time or what it was? I don't

1654
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,560
Speaker 1: even think he was supposed to be in there. So,

1655
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: so what do you think of the chances of the

1656
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks? Where? How are they going to do this year?

1657
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully we will make the playoffs. I thought we should

1658
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: have made it last agree, I mean especially after the

1659
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: year before we had a good series against Chicago. I mean,

1660
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: I think that the biggest thing with us right now.

1661
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: We have a great upside. We're like one of the

1662
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: youngest teams in the league and one of the tallest

1663
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: teams in the league. We linkedwise, we're probably better or longer,

1664
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: bigger than any other team and then so there's a

1665
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: great upside for us. I'm just hoping that we keep

1666
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: that nucleus together, you know, because a lot of times

1667
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: when you get good players, they have a tendency to

1668
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: move on. Hopefully the guys get along and they stay together,

1669
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: because I think they'll be really good. And how much

1670
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: have you seen of this kid Thawn Maker that in

1671
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: a quotes? I haven't. I haven't seen much of them,

1672
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 1: to be honest, Okay, yeah, no, I mean, you know,

1673
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: I saw him a couple of games in high school.

1674
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: I actually was the celebrity coach for an under armour

1675
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: game when he was in high school. And and uh,

1676
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 1: and I mean he was like, he was like, he's

1677
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: a taller than seven feet I think, and he's like

1678
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: like a big dude. But I feel like it's the

1679
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: evolution of man, these big dudes that sort of play

1680
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: like little dudes. Well, I mean the league is going

1681
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: smaller at this point anyway. I mean I feel like

1682
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: if I had been playing in today's game, I would

1683
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: be a small for power for it easily. I mean six,

1684
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: I mean Lebron plays before. I mean he's six six

1685
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: six eight. He's a little different story. But the league

1686
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: is just going smaller, small all that's what they're calling

1687
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 1: it now. So it's a lot different from when I played.

1688
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: All Right, I wanna name I want to go off

1689
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: a couple of names. Dudes that you that you compete again,

1690
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 1: and I just want to hear like you know, sort

1691
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 1: of a word association of guys. Uh, you know when

1692
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: when you when you think of them? Uh. John Stockton

1693
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 1: the best at passing. Why was he so good? You

1694
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: can see the floor he'd see that, he'd see it

1695
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: played developed before it happens, sort of like magic Johnson. Okay,

1696
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: um see Webb, Chris Webber, he came into Golden State.

1697
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: His hands his hands were I think he has the

1698
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 1: biggest hands of any player that I've ever seen. Like

1699
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: he take the ball and he just pombed like his

1700
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: hands that you you're throwing my past and it'd be like, oh, ship,

1701
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: it's going out of bounds. He catches the next thing

1702
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, he'd be dunking it like his hands are huge. Okay, Um,

1703
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley playing against Charles Barkley the game he gave

1704
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: a fifty points in the playoffs and put us out.

1705
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: Well what was he? What was he like as a

1706
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: as a a physical like sort of presence on the court.

1707
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: He was an animal. But he's like he's not tall either,

1708
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: but he's like you. But he's so big though he's strong,

1709
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: like he's just you could never move him. And then

1710
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: he could shoot the ball like Charles. I mean, I

1711
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: don't think it's been a player like Charles. I mean

1712
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 1: he he's an animal. I mean he was pissed at

1713
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: us because we made that commercial about him, the barbershop commercial,

1714
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: and see when he dunked on him. So when he

1715
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: got a chance to playoff in the playoffs, he he

1716
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: was pissed. You knew that. You could feel that, like

1717
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: there was a little muscle. He was pissed. He was Okay.

1718
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson, this is a guy that I think it's

1719
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: forgotten about in terms of how great he was quick,

1720
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 1: super fast with the ball, great handles, not like not

1721
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: like a Kyrie iring, but from pointed to b Yeah,

1722
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: he was. He's quick. It was nothing fancy. But when

1723
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: he's going and he's banging on you, banging on your

1724
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: cousin and banging on the whole, I mean he was

1725
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: and he was like he was just not a big

1726
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: point guard, no, not at all. He's not tall at all,

1727
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: but he's he's fast and he did his thing. Um

1728
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 1: what about Okay, So these are the dudes, I mean

1729
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: the list of people that were in the league. Gary Payton,

1730
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: now you put what was there talking about ship talking? Yeah? Absolutely,

1731
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: He's another one that talked a lot, but he'd back

1732
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: it up. I mean forgot. He's actually a pretty tall

1733
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: point guard, Like he's like six three six four. He'd

1734
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: played on the post, but defensively he was shut down.

1735
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: You know. He point guards had a terrible time with

1736
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: him because because of his height and his athleticism. Who

1737
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: who guarded you the best? Who made it the hardest

1738
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: for you on defense? It could be a couple of people.

1739
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 1: Bruce Bowen, Okay, what was it? So? So was dude

1740
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: like he was like there was always associated with he's

1741
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: dirty player. He's a dirty player? Was he a dirty player?

1742
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: And Mike? The thing that I think they studied more

1743
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: than the average player did, Like they did their homework.

1744
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: So if they knew when you were gonna go right,

1745
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: they knew when you were going to turn and fade

1746
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: or do certain moves like you could tell when someone's

1747
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,560
Speaker 1: kind of you know, they really studied your game and

1748
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: they knew what you were gonna do. So he was tough.

1749
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: Who who would be the other person you think of

1750
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: that was like, like ship, this guy is gonna be

1751
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: guarding me tonight. Well, like I said, between him Michael

1752
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: and Michael, I think those are the top two for me.

1753
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: You know. One of the things they talked about you

1754
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: can't see it so much in the highlights with Jordan's

1755
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: is his strength? Was he was he that? Like? Was

1756
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: he physically strong? Absolutely? I think the years when he

1757
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: played against Detroit and they banged him up a lot,

1758
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: that forced him to get stronger and get on the weight.

1759
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: So he definitely got bigger and stronger. And from there

1760
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: it was you know, this guy's a limit with him?

1761
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: He made it. And what about the late great Drazen Petrovitch?

1762
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: Who petro Who who could to toughness, tough he could

1763
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: score right okay, and and then like these are like

1764
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: Stephen Moreberry, I mean, did the list of people, Larry Johnson,

1765
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: Mark Price, fucking Dennis Rodman. What was it like? What

1766
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 1: do you talk about? I mean, I mean this is

1767
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 1: when in the height of his eccentricity. I mean, he

1768
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: just would go after every loose ball he would like

1769
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean the heart did he playing this guy like

1770
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: he do all this stuff on the court, Phil take

1771
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: him out of the game and he go get on

1772
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: the bike. This conditioning was like any other player, none

1773
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: like none like him. He didn't get tired, never got tired.

1774
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: And even after the games he would go work out

1775
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: ship He played forty minutes, ride the bike during timeouts

1776
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: and after the game hit the weights again. He was

1777
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: He stayed, He stayed working out. All right, we're gonna

1778
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 1: take a few more questions and we're gonna wrap this up. Jordan.

1779
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: Where are you at? Back? Where you at? Jordan's What

1780
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: was it like playing with Kevin Garnett KG? It was phenomenal.

1781
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: I love KG. He's uh one of my favorite guys

1782
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: to have played with. I mean he one thing about KG.

1783
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize he's a lot. He's

1784
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot nicer than you think because he talks so

1785
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: much on the court, but off the court, I mean

1786
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: he looks out for everybody. I mean it could be

1787
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 1: I remember one guy was on the team. I can't

1788
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 1: remember his name right now, but he was trying out

1789
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: for the team, and you know, he didn't have much

1790
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: of KG took him in and let him stay with

1791
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: him during training camp and just made sure he got

1792
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 1: the practice every day and you know, trying to make

1793
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: life as easy as possible for that kid. But that's

1794
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: just the kind of guy KG he was. He looked

1795
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: out for everybody. He's a good teammate. Absolutely, absolutely. All right,

1796
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 1: We'll do one more question and I'm gonna let's pree

1797
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: go alright, So I got questions I ask you. I

1798
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: got two questions, Latrelle. First off, are you on Twitter? Yes?

1799
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: Because I don't know who that person is. But every

1800
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: time I get the Twitter guys to delete it, he

1801
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: makes a new Twitter accountant and he's, so, are you

1802
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: actually on Twitter? Not? Because I started having a Twitter car.

1803
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 1: It's not me, but I'm going to so now I

1804
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: don't tweet, But I mean I'm like, just I have

1805
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: to at this point because this person, whoever it is,

1806
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: that keep making this Twitter. He was like, oh, I

1807
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: was doing the pictures of me and everything pictures. He's like, Oh,

1808
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, and oh, I was gonna cool.

1809
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the funk? And then I'm thinking, I

1810
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 1: actually told my producers the spree hit me on Twitter.

1811
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: He said he got caught up in a dinner thing,

1812
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's gonna hit me tomorrow. And then

1813
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: then I'm like, because like the rest of Twitter was like,

1814
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: you dumb funk, that's not really the trull spreewalk. Um,

1815
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 1: what's another question? All right? So then I got one

1816
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: more question for Latrelle. Earlier you kind of elaborate on

1817
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: how the Big Man was, you know, a big part

1818
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: of the nineties. Um, I have a question, what would

1819
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: happen to Draymond Green if you were playing today? And

1820
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: then I have one more question for Mike. Still be effective?

1821
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: Draymond is He's a very talented player. So I don't think,

1822
01:31:58,360 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you can put him in any era. I

1823
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: think you still be effective. I think he'd be good regardless.

1824
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about all the ship

1825
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: that Steph Curry is taking because I never saw somebody

1826
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: go from being so beloved. Now, he didn't have a

1827
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: great finals, but like after he won that m v P,

1828
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: it was just like he was like a human dartboard.

1829
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: Like they just everybody just turned on it. And again

1830
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: all pass lead to Lebron James because he set that

1831
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: ship off. But what do you think of him as

1832
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 1: as his game? I love step game. I mean I

1833
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: think he's pushing these younger kids to go out and

1834
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: shoot threes. I mean the way that I mean, come on,

1835
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: he's like five six ft beyond a three point line.

1836
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: This is I think he's gonna push this younger generation

1837
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: to obviously shoot more, and he gives a lot of

1838
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: kids that aren't necessarily athletic, like Michael Jordan or Lebron James,

1839
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 1: He's gonna give them motivation to go out and work

1840
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 1: hard and be just as good. You know, He's like, hey,

1841
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: if Steph can do it, I can do it. Because

1842
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: he's not the guy that's gonna come down the court

1843
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: and dunk on you and do any of that stuff.

1844
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: But if you're not up on him, he's gonna drop

1845
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 1: three on you right in your eyes right. So, I

1846
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: mean for a lot of a lot of kids growing up,

1847
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 1: they see that and that's going to motivate them for sure.

1848
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: What's the best bar in Milwaukee? What's what's the best bar?

1849
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,839
Speaker 1: What's your favorite bar? And how does Joe Cats rank nationally?

1850
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: Joe Cats may, I don't know about nationally, but I'll

1851
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: be there tonight. We'll be here, all right. Listen, let's

1852
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,560
Speaker 1: get ahead, and the troll spretty well, let him go.