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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of the Klay Travis end Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now, and we've got a big show

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Speaker 2: for you. Alena Haba will be with us in the

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Speaker 2: second hour. Trump attorney in the civil case before, and

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Speaker 2: she's going to tell us about what she thinks about

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Speaker 2: what's going on here in NYC with the Alvin Bragg prosecution,

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Speaker 2: persecution of Donald Trump. Also Dave McCormick, big finance guy,

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Speaker 2: army veteran and running for Senate in Pennsylvania. You're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about the some of the specific encampments in

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania and these protest encampments and the governor of Pennsylvania

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Speaker 2: what he's been up to. He's Democrat, so we shall

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Speaker 2: have that discussion. But the big stuff today, the big

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Speaker 2: news today that we have to dive into right away,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump trials. We knew this was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: It is not in the least bit surprising that there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a Trump trial dominance in the news cycle,

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Speaker 2: even in a presidential election year. Instead of rallies, we

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Speaker 2: are focusing in on court appearances because that's what's happening,

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Speaker 2: and in some cases instead of rallies, there are these

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Speaker 2: court appearances. So let's start with some good news. Good

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Speaker 2: news if you believe in injustice, and that is that

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Speaker 2: the judge Eileen Cannon, who is overseeing the Trump Documents

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Speaker 2: moral lago obstruction case, has made it so it's very

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Speaker 2: unlikely that trial is going to happen now before the election.

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Speaker 2: She's pushed back the start date on the calendar, some

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Speaker 2: issues of classification that have to be adjudicated, which I

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Speaker 2: always thought was going to be the case. Clay, we'll

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Speaker 2: dive into the analysis on this in a second. I

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Speaker 2: just want to lay out another bit of news. Eric

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Speaker 2: Adams admitted at a press conference yesterday that the New

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Speaker 2: York City prison director for Rikers Island has had discussions

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Speaker 2: with the city about how they would incarcerate Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I think that that should be noted that he said

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Speaker 2: he tried to dance around it, but eventually he said, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: we're ready for that now. He didn't say it's going

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Speaker 2: to happen, he just said they're ready for it. So

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Speaker 2: discussions about whether Trump could be put in jail on

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Speaker 2: contempt or perhaps even upon a guilty verdict are not

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Speaker 2: crazy in the least because there are already discussions about

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Speaker 2: how they would logistically do it. But Clay, let's start

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Speaker 2: with the Eileen Canon situation. The Libs are very upset

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Speaker 2: about this, very upset. She has indefinitely postponed the trial

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Speaker 2: significant issues around classified evidence that have to be worked out.

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Speaker 2: I knew this was the case, Clay, because even in

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Speaker 2: really egregious classified information prosecutions, there's always this problem of is.

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Speaker 1: It really classified? And if it is really.

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Speaker 2: Classified, the jury has to see it to really know

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Speaker 2: that it's so classified. And if the jury can't see

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Speaker 2: it because it's so sensitive, how can the jury know?

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Speaker 2: And if a jury does see it and it's super sensitive,

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Speaker 2: well aren't we then just telling more people the nuclear secrets,

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Speaker 2: so to speak, or something really important? And is it

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Speaker 2: really worth the government's time to do that? Anyway? That's

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Speaker 2: how this stuff goes down. I know you're looking at

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Speaker 2: Eiland Cannon. The more she upsets the Libs, the more

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Speaker 2: justice is done. What do you make of all this?

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Speaker 3: This is this case is never going to trial. I

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Speaker 3: think this case is never going to trial even if

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Speaker 3: Trump loses in twenty twenty four, because what Judge Cannon

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Speaker 3: has pointed out is there are now issues with how

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Speaker 3: this is ridiculous and absurd, but this is where we are.

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Speaker 3: There are issues with how the government has handled and

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Speaker 3: cataloged the classified documents that they claim Donald Trump mishandled.

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Speaker 3: So we're now in a situation where the government raid

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Speaker 3: about mishandled classified documents has now led to the government

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Speaker 3: acknowledging that in some ways it mishandled the classified documents

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Speaker 3: actually willing to ask these questions. She's also contemplating the

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Speaker 3: entire selective prosecution aspect to this, where Mike Pence gets a, hey,

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Speaker 3: you did find no issues. Joe Biden gets a hey,

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Speaker 3: he's a doddering old man. His mental capacity is too

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Speaker 3: weak to allow him to be charged with a crime.

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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton gets a well, yes, you've committed a crime,

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Speaker 3: but we're not going to prosecute. And then Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: gets you have to spend the rest of your life

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Speaker 3: it's being set up, the raid, the Biden administration's involvement,

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Speaker 3: this is all a sham. And what's funny to me

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Speaker 3: about this buck is Eileen Cannon is just asking the

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Speaker 3: such a delusional echo chamber that somehow they're stun that

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Speaker 3: this case is not going to happen. We've been telling

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Speaker 3: our audience for a year now. I think I set

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Speaker 3: been self evident for anyone with a functional brain for

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Speaker 3: some time where all this was headed.

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Speaker 2: You know, they were wrong about everything Russia collusion in

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Speaker 2: the most spectacular way. And you'll notice that some of

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Speaker 2: the same pundits, politicians, legal experts who are so certain

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Speaker 2: that Trump is in deep trouble.

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Speaker 1: Me.

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Speaker 2: Remember, there's a joke during the Trump administration. It became

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Speaker 2: a joke, the walls are closing in. He's finally gone

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Speaker 2: too far. For four years they said this, and of

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Speaker 2: gone too far. They did not lose, though, the people

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Speaker 2: that were saying that any credibility on the left, because

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Speaker 2: this is about satisfying the emotions of the left wing mom.

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Speaker 2: And if you want to be on TV and you

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Speaker 2: want to sell books, and you want to be you

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Speaker 2: want to get votes. If you're a politician, you have

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Speaker 2: to tell people what they want to hear about Trump,

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Speaker 2: and that means everything legal against Trump. They've got him.

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Speaker 2: He broke the law. It's going to go badly for him.

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Speaker 2: They said this. Even about the issue of the state ballots.

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Speaker 2: There were a lot of people going on television saying

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Speaker 2: it's completely First of all, there were judges who said

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Speaker 2: it was legitimate. Think about that for a moment. Lower

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Speaker 2: court judges in the state of Colorado, but Colorado and

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Speaker 2: Maine tried to remove Trump from the ballot, and Nino

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court said, effectively, you guys are out of

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Speaker 2: your mind. Absolutely cannot do that. Okay. And the people

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Speaker 2: that were saying the other stuff that was wrong, they're

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Speaker 2: now the same people saying, oh, it's so horrible what

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Speaker 2: Aileen Cannon is doing.

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Speaker 1: But Clay.

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Speaker 2: They're also the people who say they went after Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden because he's Biden's son, not because he broke the law.

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Speaker 2: They are living in a delusional, alternate universe, and Trump

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Speaker 2: is the thing that spirals them more than anything else.

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Speaker 3: I also think this is a situation where a lot

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Speaker 3: of people in media are afraid of having an opinion

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Speaker 3: if they're not highly educated in this space.

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Speaker 2: And so the.

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Speaker 3: Strangle point on the left is completely occupied by people

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Speaker 3: removing him from the ballot is very valid because there

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Speaker 3: aren't that many actual quote unquote legal experts. When The

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Speaker 3: people saying this is a serious situation. When MSNBC and

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Speaker 3: CNN are filled with people in this same way, what

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Speaker 3: you really have is a choke point where there aren't

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Speaker 3: that many people who are willing to oppose them. And

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Speaker 3: as a result, you can ease more easily seen an

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Speaker 3: artificial narrative than you could on something where everybody feels

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Speaker 3: comfortable having an opinion. Does that make sense, because I

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Speaker 3: do think what they're particularly skilled that in terms of

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Speaker 3: narrative shaping is recognizing choke points and making sure that

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Speaker 3: And this is why they really want to restrict speech

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Speaker 3: so substantially. But really, the loser here is the audience. Right,

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Speaker 3: if you're a diehard MSNBC fan and you had been told, oh,

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Speaker 3: what Colorado did is legit, Oh, what Maine did is legit.

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Speaker 3: If you read the New York Times editorial page and

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Speaker 3: then it's nine oh, you should not be angry at

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court for the nine oh decision. You should

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Speaker 3: be angry at all of the prognosticators who told you

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Speaker 3: that this was a legitimate threat to Trump and he

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Speaker 3: was gonna be off the ballot.

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Speaker 2: But they're not willing. Well, you're but you're approaching it

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Speaker 2: as a person of emotional stability and who looks at

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Speaker 2: these things rationally. We see it claim when the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court says nine to oh, their response is, well, the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court is now is illegitimate? The Supreme Court itself

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Speaker 2: is the problem. Right, There's always yes, and there's a shift.

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Speaker 2: There's a boy, there's always a shifting of the blame

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Speaker 2: away from the idiots who are telling them things that

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Speaker 2: were not true. And in this classified documents case, let's

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Speaker 2: remember photos which got out into the media of these

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Speaker 2: super classified documents arrayed on the floor like they were doing.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of those put drugs and guns on

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Speaker 2: the table raids. Those who have seen the wire know

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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. Drugs and guns on the table.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's how the cops in some show that

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Speaker 2: they're cracking down, Right, You get a couple kilos of

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Speaker 2: You know, you get one of a Tech nine. Remember

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Speaker 2: that you put that on the table. Looks scary. Oh look,

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Speaker 2: we're doing our job. They did that with classified documents,

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Speaker 2: a raid on the floor. Part of the issue here

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Speaker 2: is what was that. What were the handling procedures for

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Speaker 2: actually take them as you were supposed to?

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Speaker 1: This? Guess what?

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Speaker 2: In our system you get to adjudicate these things. You

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Speaker 2: don't get to ram this through against the defendant because

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Speaker 2: there's an election coming up that you decided, meaning the Democrats,

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Speaker 3: We need to talk also. So that happened yesterday afternoon,

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Speaker 3: shortly after we went off the air. So the South

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Speaker 3: Florida classified documents case is not going to go to trial,

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Speaker 3: I don't think ever, but certainly not until after the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four election. Okay, also we come back, we'll

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Speaker 3: start to break this down. Fanny Willis is done for.

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Speaker 3: I think she's gonna get removed from the duck. She's

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Speaker 3: gonna be Fanny because she keeps showing her ass. This

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Speaker 3: is one that I'm intentionally mispronouncing, and she is done for.

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Speaker 3: The Georgia Court of Appeals has decided that they are

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Speaker 3: going to examine the ruling from the I know this

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Speaker 3: is all very complicated. It's like you're going to law

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Speaker 3: school because there's also many different moving parts here. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk about it. But what you need to know is

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Speaker 3: Trump is winning in a big way in all of

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Speaker 3: these cases except New York. Even in New York. I

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Speaker 3: think New York is going well for him. Oh no,

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Speaker 3: it's going well that too. But it's not It's a

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Speaker 3: long way, you know, it's a long way. The only

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Speaker 3: case that's going to happen, and it's the most sham

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Speaker 3: ridiculous kangaroo court absurdity.

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Speaker 2: I'm not convinced they're not going to start the Jay

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Speaker 2: sixth case. And if they started in September the DC case,

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Speaker 2: not convinced they play. Why wouldn't they If they can

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Speaker 2: what's going to stop them. I don't think they're going

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Speaker 2: to be allowed to do it. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: If they can't, they stop them well, because I think

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Speaker 3: what the Supreme Court is going to say is you

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Speaker 3: have to have a factual hearing to determine which of

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Speaker 3: these actions that you have alleged are specifically related to

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Speaker 3: the presidency and outside the scope of the presidency. And

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 3: by Alena Haba, one of the Trump attorneys who has

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Speaker 5: No, I don't want to speak about her in particular. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: that's first. Second, it's very clear that there just isn't

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Speaker 2: Alena, it's buck. Thanks for being with us. Just I

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Speaker 2: But the paying of the hush money, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Have those Wait wait, Alien, I'm sorry, this is really

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, how could it affect the election,

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Speaker 5: Well, that's the whole point. It doesn't. It's a far

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Speaker 3: Elena, I'm sure you saw New York City Mayor Eric

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Speaker 3: But how much preparation do you guys have in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I really can't speak to that. Anything like that

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Speaker 5: Usually it's the other way around. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: People involved in the case are talking about it. It's

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Speaker 5: there's so many levels. The fact that we're even talking

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Speaker 2: I just you know, we have so many questions want

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Speaker 2: How is Trump abel? You know, how is President Trump

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think he said it best. He said, life

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Speaker 5: And I think he sees the big picture that he

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the battles that you're fighting on behalf of Trump.

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Speaker 3: Georgia Court of Appeals is going to consider Fanny Willis

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Speaker 3: whether she should stay on the case. Also down in

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Speaker 3: South Florida, Judge Eileen Cannon has ended the May twentieth

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Speaker 3: trial date. Both of those big wins for the Trump team.

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Speaker 3: What can you say about those decisions that have come

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Speaker 3: down in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're great decisions. I think they're a

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Speaker 5: step in the right direction. Obviously, we still have a

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Speaker 5: lot of work to do. But you know, we saw

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Speaker 5: with the jack Smith cases and all these cases they're

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Speaker 5: falling apart. We've seen miss Willis. You know, she's obviously

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Speaker 5: dealt with financials in the way that she should not.

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Speaker 5: She's hired people she should not.

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Speaker 6: She's had.

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Speaker 5: Alleged relationships so that she should not, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: And again political law fair jack Smith, we saw that

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Speaker 5: they mishandled the evidence, they were sloppy, and then they

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Speaker 5: decided to just put that in the footnote and maybe

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Speaker 5: thought nobody would notice. I'm not really sure what their

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Speaker 5: idea was there, but it's this constant rush of trials

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Speaker 5: to try and get him in front of a court

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Speaker 5: before the twenty twenty four election, to try and hope

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Speaker 5: that they get a judge that is left wing, get

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Speaker 5: a left wing jury maybe and see him get taken

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Speaker 5: again off the campaign trail, possibly in jail. This is

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Speaker 5: what they want. It's by design. But with time we're seeing,

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Speaker 5: as in the past couple of days, that these do

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Speaker 5: get crumbled. We thought with the ag case, you know,

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Speaker 5: four to seventy five million. It took us some time

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Speaker 5: in the appel division, but then they brought it down. There

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Speaker 5: is a due process, there is some remnants of law

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Speaker 5: and order in our country, and slowly and surely it

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Speaker 5: will reveal what their true intentions were, and these cases

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Speaker 5: will and should all be dismissed.

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Speaker 2: Elena hob everybody Trump Attorney Alena, we would really like

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Speaker 2: it if you'd come back as more developments happen here

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Speaker 2: and just tell us what's really going on, because this

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Speaker 2: audience is very attuned to this and we can all

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Speaker 2: see the injustices being perpetrated against President Trump. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for being with us, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: staying in the fight.

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Speaker 5: Of course, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Let's take some of your calls on this. Yere coming

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Speaker 2: up eight hundred two eighty two two eight eight two

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Speaker 2: with all the focus on artificial intelligence and how it

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Speaker 2: can move the stock market and actually change the future

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Speaker 2: of the American economy. What stocks are going to be

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Speaker 2: most affected by this. It's something that you could spend

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Speaker 2: a lifetime studying and not have all the answers, But

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Speaker 2: actually just get the best information you can from an expert,

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Speaker 2: is writer and editor Mark Chakin. Mark anticipates what AI

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Speaker 2: Once more, Clay and Buck that you didn't.

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Speaker 4: Here on the show, get podcast extras in the Clay

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Speaker 3: Find it on the iheartapp or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Hope all

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Speaker 3: of you are having fantastic Wednesdays wherever you may be

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Speaker 3: across the great country. We are happy to see you

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Speaker 3: on the Clay and Buck video feed. As many of

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Speaker 3: you were watching, I meant to mention yesterday, Buck with

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Speaker 3: just a dastardly ploy to influence video views by bringing Ginger,

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Speaker 3: his Australian labradoodle on the show.

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Speaker 2: Who might be?

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say you can judge the

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Speaker 3: attractiveness of dogs right like this dog is in like

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Speaker 3: level cuteness for sure, her fluffiness, her general demeanor. She

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Speaker 3: made an appearance yesterday, but only clayon Buck the IP

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Speaker 3: subscribers get to see this. I mean, if you were

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Speaker 3: would be the ideal dog to hire as a model.

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Speaker 3: So Ginger the dog occasionally buck and in order to

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Speaker 3: dog into view. Speaking of the view we got a

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Speaker 3: lot to dive into. Alena Hobb is going to be

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Speaker 3: with us at the bottom of this hour a little

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Speaker 3: bit after one point thirty on the East Coast, so

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Speaker 3: in about thirty minutes or so, to talk about the

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Speaker 3: latest law fair against Trump. She obviously is one of

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Speaker 3: the Trump attorneys on television regularly. And then top of

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Speaker 3: the next hour we're going to be joined by Dave McCormick,

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Speaker 3: who's officially unveiling his ad campaign in the big Pennsylvania

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Speaker 3: Senate race. We'll talk about Saul Fetterman on Fox News

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Speaker 3: sitting down with Brett Bayer will probably ask him about

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Speaker 3: Fetterman and Moore. But this just happened. Credit to Greg

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Speaker 3: on our staff who grabbed it. The View, which is

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Speaker 3: the dumbest show on television on a daily basis, had

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Speaker 3: Bacari Sellers, who I would probably say is around the

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Speaker 3: nine hundred and forty second smartest contributor on CNN. Just

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Speaker 3: not a very smart dude, and he's been coming after

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Speaker 3: me on social media. Some of you may have seen it,

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Speaker 3: but he decided to go on the View and say

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Speaker 3: that people like Tucker Carlson and then Ben Shapiro and

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Speaker 3: me were not smart enough to be able to have

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Speaker 3: by talking to I guess, dumb people and not actually

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Speaker 3: advocating our beliefs. So I want to play you that cut.

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Speaker 3: This just happened on the View.

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Speaker 7: Enjoy Tucker has he's in this silo, and I knew

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Speaker 7: there was a problem when he was able to go

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Speaker 7: on primetime TV and talk about the great replacement theory,

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Speaker 7: which is rooted in white supremacy, and it's fear, it's grievance,

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Speaker 7: it's all of these things, and it just permeates itself

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Speaker 7: and it manifests itself and hate. And the problem is

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Speaker 7: that they had ads that play before and ads to

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Speaker 7: play after. And you have these individuals, the Clay Travises

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Speaker 7: of the world, the Ben Shapiro's of the world, these

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Speaker 7: people who don't necessarily have the intellect to have honest discussions.

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Speaker 6: But.

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Speaker 7: Yet they're able to become millionaires because they're actually just

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, first of all, you don't feel badly

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Speaker 2: because because you guys don't know about the honey badger, right,

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Speaker 2: you know about the meme of the honey badger.

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Speaker 1: Clay when it comes to these things.

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Speaker 2: Is the honey badger. He will fight endlessly. He will

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Speaker 2: fight anything, it doesn't matter, he will fight. So there

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 3: So you heard Woopy Goldberg say, yeah, when he said

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Speaker 3: that I was dumb and not able to intellectually defend myself.

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Speaker 3: I don't see any other response from the view that

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Speaker 3: is possible. Other than having me on as a guest,

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Speaker 3: and I will go on Buck one v.

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Speaker 6: Four.

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Speaker 2: I think they're a four host.

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Speaker 3: I'll take on Joy Behar, I'll take on Whoopy Goldberg,

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Speaker 3: Sonny Houston, and Alissa Fara I think is the other Griffin.

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Speaker 3: She may have gotten married. I think that's the quod.

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Speaker 3: I will go on one v four and I will

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Speaker 3: allow them to question me on anything under the sun.

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Speaker 3: I think I will intellectually eviscerate them. Maybe I'm wrong,

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Speaker 3: maybe they'll dunk on me, maybe I'll get embarrassed. But

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Speaker 3: don't you think their audience, given that I've been attacked

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Speaker 3: at Woopy Goldberg, has endorsed the fact that I'm not

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Speaker 3: intelligent enough to defend my beliefs, don't you think they're

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Speaker 3: actually obligated to have me on as a guest? Now,

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Speaker 3: I mean, wouldn't that be fair. We'll have any of

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Speaker 3: the view people on. We've never run from anybody being

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Speaker 3: a guest on this show. But if you're gonna go

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Speaker 3: on and say somebody's not smart and they only get

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Speaker 3: which is what they're saying, shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: They have me on? Improve it? I mean also not

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Speaker 2: that I'm a big credentials guy, but you know, to

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Speaker 2: go after the Harvard law guy and the Vanderbilt law

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Speaker 2: guy as the dumbest people and conservative. Look, mister Seller's

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Speaker 2: Bacari Sellers, right, that's his name. Thing. Yeah, he's not

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Speaker 2: very smart based on what he says on television.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe in person he's quite sharp and brilliant, but his

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Speaker 2: you know, I think the view should have you on.

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Speaker 2: I think that you having been on the Bill Marshaw,

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Speaker 2: I will tell you, no matter how forceful and eloquent

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Speaker 2: you start to look like a crazy person. No matter what.

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Speaker 2: If it's four people at a table and you're there

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Speaker 2: and you're talking, you know more than thirty forty percent

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Speaker 2: of the time, it's gonna and also they're gonna shout

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Speaker 2: over you. But I still think they should have you on.

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Speaker 2: I think that would be incredible.

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Speaker 3: They had Ted Cruz on if I remember correctly, and

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Speaker 3: that was pretty good television because he had a book out.

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Speaker 3: But again, of all the people that you could attack

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Speaker 3: in media leave me aside. You could agree or disagree

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Speaker 3: with Ben Shapiro. Pretty smart dude. I mean, like, if

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Speaker 3: if you want to disagree with his opinions, I think

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Speaker 3: that's fair. He's a Harvard lawger ad. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: don't get to graduate from Harvard law school. Generally speaking,

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Speaker 3: there's probably some exceptions with I think Sonny Houstin's a

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame law gerrad, so I think there are some exceptions.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes you can kind of fight your way through.

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Speaker 3: Ben's got a pretty decent You should.

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Speaker 2: Go on only if Sonny Houston promises to have an

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Speaker 2: score for Notre Dame. I mean I would even throw

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Speaker 2: a large wager behind it if I were you.

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Speaker 3: What, I could also require masking just to make sure

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Speaker 3: that we're taking the virus seriously, which would I think

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Speaker 3: you should definitely go on set and be like, have

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Speaker 3: you guys gotten your seventh boosters?

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Why don't you take the virus seriously? What about mutations?

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting when you look at this.

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Speaker 2: This is why I always thought COVID is so important

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Speaker 2: for a whole bunch of reasons, and I'm still a

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Speaker 2: long term to humanity and certainly in this country. The

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Speaker 2: people who are wrong about all that are wrong about

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Speaker 2: all this too, you know what I mean. They just

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Speaker 2: keep They just go from one issue to another of

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Speaker 2: being deeply emotionally invested and certain of their position, and

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Speaker 2: then reality eventually overtakes it. They are wrong, and they

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Speaker 2: never stop and think, maybe the other side that was right,

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should at least take them more seriously or

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Speaker 2: give them a fair hearing. It's always a total dismissal.

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Speaker 2: I know what the left believes, you know what the

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Speaker 2: left leaves. They don't even know what we think. They

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Speaker 2: just have phrases, epithets, things like calling you and Ben

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Speaker 2: Shapiro's do But I'll say, I mean people, yeah, some

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Speaker 2: leftists have said before.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they've never ever called me stupid,

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Speaker 2: but I will say, if they call me dumb, it

651
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Speaker 2: doesn't offend me, you know what I mean, It's like

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Speaker 2: calling me bald, doesn't offend me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, First of all, I have a high level of

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Speaker 3: what it would take to offend me, which is probably healthy.

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Speaker 3: But given what is said out there.

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Speaker 2: You can say that Clay is insufficiently insufficiently devoted to

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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Valls.

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Speaker 3: That would be that would be an insult. I would

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Speaker 3: be I would be offended by that. But it's it's

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Speaker 3: all to your point. They keep getting hit by reality,

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Speaker 3: and the reality doesn't penetrate the force field of ignorance

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Speaker 3: that they have built around them. And the nine oh

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court case is a perfect example of this, because

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Speaker 3: they spent all this time telling their audience, Hey, this

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Speaker 3: is this is a real thing, like this, this the

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Speaker 3: way that this.

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Speaker 2: They had all these.

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Speaker 3: Great lawyers writing editorial pieces saying, this is a really

670
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Speaker 3: tough call. This may Trump's not eligible for the ballot.

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Speaker 3: They basically goaded the Colorado Supreme Court into the ruling

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Speaker 3: that they put out there, and then nine oh the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court says, yeah, and this is not really a

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Speaker 3: tough call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would also just I would point out that

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Speaker 2: never in my in my immediate career, I would assume

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Speaker 2: same same for you have I said that a Supreme Court,

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Speaker 2: a major Supreme Court case was going to go one

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Speaker 2: way and it went nine to oh the other way.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll be off five, four, six, three. Fine, Right,

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Speaker 2: that's a coin flip that could happen. I've never said, oh,

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court is going to strike this down and

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Speaker 2: nine oh they uphold something like That's never happened to

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Speaker 2: me one time.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's worthy.

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Speaker 2: It's a worthy point of reflection, Like, if you can

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Speaker 2: be that bad at legal analysis, why should anyone, you know,

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Speaker 2: why should anyone listen to you. It'd be like if

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Speaker 2: if you're listening to somebody who says, you know, invest

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Speaker 2: in this real estate market, housing prices are only going

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Speaker 2: to go up and housing prices go down ninety percent,

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Speaker 2: You're probably not gonna listen to that person. Yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: And I guess what I'm surprised by is if you

695
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Speaker 3: were told things that clearly were wrong over and over again.

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Speaker 3: Trump is the perfect example. They have said. I mean,

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00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 3: it's Lucy with the football, and every time they're Charlie

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Speaker 3: Brown running up and every single time Lucy pulls the football.

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Speaker 3: And I really think we've talked about this off air

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Speaker 3: and a little bit on air. What is going to

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Speaker 3: happen if Trump wins in twenty twenty four. They got

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Speaker 3: their salvation. Really, I mean they got lucky on COVID

703
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Speaker 3: because COVID happened in an election year and that made

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Speaker 3: Trump vulnerable. And I don't think Trump handled the COVID response. Well,

705
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Speaker 3: we've talked about this before, and that made him vulnerable.

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Speaker 3: And then they got their salvation, which was jan six.

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Speaker 3: Their idea of Trump is a unique threat to democracy

708
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Speaker 3: and he's evil. They got January sixth, which was the

709
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Speaker 3: deepest fruition of their dreams that Jan six could have

710
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Speaker 3: ever happened. And yet if Trump comes back and wins,

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Speaker 3: these people's brains already broken, are gonna split into a

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Speaker 3: billion pieces.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know they remember when the Raiders of

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Speaker 2: the Lost Dark, when the Ark of the Covenant opens

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Speaker 2: up and all the Nazis' faces melt off. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that it happen, but it might kind of

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Speaker 2: feel like that's happening. I love saying spoiler alert on

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Speaker 2: the old movies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And if somebody's out there, I've never seen Raiders

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Speaker 3: of the Lost Dark, you just spoiled it for me. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a perfect analogy for what may

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Speaker 3: well happen.

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Speaker 2: And what is likely to occur.

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Speaker 3: And I think right now, are they slowly, in your

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Speaker 3: mind starting to recognize that Trump is favored to win

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Speaker 3: or do you think they still find it to be

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Speaker 3: impossible that he could win. I don't know what their

728
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Speaker 3: mindset truly is. They are anxious, they are not confident.

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Speaker 3: I still think they believe they can pull it out, though,

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Speaker 3: but they there is Democrat anxiety around where they.

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Speaker 2: Of course, how could there not be. This should if

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Speaker 2: if what is if what they say about Trump is true,

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Speaker 2: Trump should be down twenty points. You're right, if what

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Speaker 2: they believe about Donald Trump as a threat to democracy

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Speaker 2: and all this other stuff. The fundamental flaw in their

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Speaker 2: argument is what I mentioned today. And it was even

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Speaker 2: some Democrat who said, like, I hate Trump. But I

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Speaker 2: remember I sent this to you a camera. It was

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Speaker 2: not some famous person, but it was just some tweet

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Speaker 2: that I sent or an ex post whatever. And the

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Speaker 2: guy says, look, the problem with the argument that Democrats have.

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Speaker 2: The central problem is that Trump was president for four

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Speaker 2: years and you had peace in a booming economy, and

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Speaker 2: everything was better than it is now pretty much crossed

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Speaker 2: the board. The people saying, oh, what about COVID. Biden's

746
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Speaker 2: first year sucked. We were all, you know, we were

747
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Speaker 2: getting shots we didn't need, and we still had lockdowns.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's like, so, if you're going to compare

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Speaker 2: COVID to COVID, it's a lot harder to be president

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Speaker 2: the first year of COVID in the second year, and

751
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Speaker 2: Biden was an absolute disaster in COVID, wrong on everything, divisive, spiteful.

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Speaker 3: And Trump didn't handle COVID well. But how many people

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Speaker 3: do you think would have handled COVID well in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty DeSantis did in Florida, Brian Kemp did in Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I think, honestly, Rand Paul would have been probably the

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Speaker 3: greatest president we could have had for COVID to have.

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Speaker 1: Heard, well, you've heard this right.

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Speaker 2: If I could just like make someone president, you know,

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Speaker 2: if Trump got four more years, is said, who could

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Speaker 2: you just like parachute in and their president. They don't

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Speaker 2: have to go through an election because I don't think

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Speaker 2: he can win a national election. But I have so

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Speaker 2: much respect for Rand Paul. I think he would be

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Speaker 2: in the role phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: I think Rand Paul, probably because he's also a doctor,

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Speaker 3: would have had the ability to kind of keep things

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Speaker 3: somewhat sane on COVID. But I think the number of

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Speaker 3: politicians that would have been in office for the final

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Speaker 4: Now just get to know them as guys on This

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Speaker 3: Find it in their podcast feed, on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 1: We've got Dave McCormick with us.

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Speaker 2: He is a US Army veteran former CEO of Bridgewater

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Speaker 2: Massive Hedge Fund, and he is running for Senate and

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Speaker 2: we need him. No pressure, Dave, But I mean the

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Speaker 2: future of the election and maybe the future of the

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Speaker 2: Republic rests on your ability to win and help deliver Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we know.

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Speaker 2: You're used to.

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Speaker 6: I'm ready. How are you?

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Speaker 1: So we're good? You know, we're really trying to every day.

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Speaker 2: Now we're in an election cycle now, right, I mean, we're

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Speaker 2: really feeling it's it's the election day. Feels like it's

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Speaker 2: barreling towards us, or we're barreling toward it, and we're

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Speaker 2: trying to make sure that we bring as much awareness

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Speaker 2: of the particular battlegrounds that matter as possible. We've talked

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Speaker 2: to you before about the situation Pennsylvania. First off, I

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Speaker 2: wanted to ask to get into the current news cycle

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Speaker 2: and what's going on. There are some encampments on schools

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Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, right, some of these sort of pro hamas encampments.

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Speaker 2: How have they been handled and what can you tell

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Speaker 2: us about how that's going in your state?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think in general, it's a real disgrace that

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Speaker 6: these encampments persist, and it's most prominently in Pennsylvania's at

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Speaker 6: the University of Pennsylvania, and I visited there last week

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Speaker 6: last Wednesday, and you have one of these situations where

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Speaker 6: the administration has said very clearly what's happening is an

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Speaker 6: absolute violation of campus policy. We walked past these encampments.

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Speaker 6: We had some kids take us around. There's probably five

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Speaker 6: hundred kids in that encampment. They speculate only about a

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Speaker 6: third of them or actually Penn students. The most vile

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Speaker 6: things Zionism is racism. Go back to Poland from the

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Speaker 6: river to the sea. You know, it is vicious and

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Speaker 6: it's really it's really intimidating to the Jewish kids and

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Speaker 6: other kids to walk through there. They've shut down classes.

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Speaker 6: It is a travesty and there's not enough moral leadership

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Speaker 6: and leadership in general to get control of these things.

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Speaker 6: And you know what I've said publicly is, you know,

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Speaker 6: if you're the president of Penn, you should since the

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Speaker 6: shut down that encampment. If it's students of Pen, they

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Speaker 6: should be expelled or have a disciplinary action. If it's

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Speaker 6: outside agitators, they should be arrested by the police of

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Speaker 6: the City of Philadelphia and get control of this thing.

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Speaker 6: Because it's just and this is not about First Amendment.

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Speaker 6: What they're doing is completely violation of the policy and

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Speaker 6: goes well beyond the protections the First Amendment by inciting

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Speaker 6: violence and bigoted hatred and behavior.

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Speaker 3: Dave, we appreciate you coming on with us. We know

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Speaker 3: you're all over the state of Pennsylvania campaigning. I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: inflation cost of goods is still overwhelmingly what you hear

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Speaker 3: about the most in your experience. What are Pennsylvanians the

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Speaker 3: most focused on and how do you think that plays

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Speaker 3: into not only your Senate race, but also obviously the

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Speaker 3: presidential race as Pennsylvania, along with Michigan and Wisconsin big

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Speaker 3: ten states, probably going to decide this election.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the two issues of inflation and abortion.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, inflation and border are the two big issues.

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Speaker 6: Inflation sixty percent of Pennsylvanians with paycheck to paycheck, and

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Speaker 6: prices for them are up twenty percent twenty one percent.

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Speaker 6: Real wages are only up fourteen percent, So most Pennsylvanians

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Speaker 6: are getting squeezed on food, fuel, rent, and it's making

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Speaker 6: it harder and harder. And then interest payments on a

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Speaker 6: pickup trunk or interest payments on new house make them

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Speaker 6: almost twice as expensive as they were before Biden came

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Speaker 6: into office. And this is the direct result of President Biden,

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Speaker 6: and Bob Casey supported him every step of the way,

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Speaker 6: about ninety eight percent of time with him. The direct

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Speaker 6: result of this excessive spending. We've had too much spending

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Speaker 6: from Republicans and Democrats alike, but it has gone through

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Speaker 6: the roof under Biden. Six trillion dollars of incremental spending

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Speaker 6: and the war on oil and gas, and those are

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Speaker 6: the drivers of inflation. And the voters absolutely don't believe

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Speaker 6: this nonsense that Bidenomics is making our lives better. They

877
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Speaker 6: see what it's doing. So that's issue number one. A

878
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 6: close second is the border. Ten million illegal migrants, I mean,

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Speaker 6: are you kidding me? The national security implications of you know,

880
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty people apprehended on the terrorist watch list.

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Speaker 6: You guys know these statistics. Those are just the ones

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Speaker 6: that are apprehended. And then the fentanyl crisis. It's a

883
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Speaker 6: huge deal for Pennsylvania. We lost four thousand Pennsylvanians last year.

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Speaker 6: These cartels pushed the fentanyl and that's just in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 6: Least cartels pushed the fentanyl across the border, and it's

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Speaker 6: in Pennsylvania. Within a couple of days, and it's killing

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Speaker 6: people almost one hundred thousand nationally. So that issue, the border,

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Speaker 6: the economic burden, the crime, the national securities, and then

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Speaker 6: the fentanyl. I mean, if you and if the three

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Speaker 6: of us were sitting in a room together the Dave

891
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Speaker 6: Biden took office, we could have never imagined the border

892
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Speaker 6: would get this out of control. And it's I think

893
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Speaker 6: people look at it and see a lack of leadership

894
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 6: in chaos. And again, Bob Casey voted for sanctuary cities,

895
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Speaker 6: voted against the wall, voted against funding for border patrol,

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Speaker 6: voted against the fentanyl initiative. Bob Casey and Joe Biden

897
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Speaker 6: own this border, and I think it's the second defining

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Speaker 6: issue for Pennsylvanians. And I think for those reasons. You know,

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Speaker 6: President Trump's ahead in the polls and I'm closing fast

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Speaker 6: in the polls, and I think people just want new

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Speaker 6: leadership that can undo this chaos.

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Speaker 2: We're speaking of David Cormick running for Senate in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 2: against Casey and Dave. I want to bring something to

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Speaker 2: you because we talked a little bit about the campus

905
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Speaker 2: situation and looking at the Pennsylvania state of play going

906
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Speaker 2: into the election. John Fetterman, I don't know what else

907
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Speaker 2: to say. We've been saying on the show, so we

908
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: have to stand behind it. He's been solid on the

909
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Speaker 2: Israel Gaza issue. Based on everything that I've seen so far,

910
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Speaker 2: I know he's almost a Bernie Sanders disciple on a

911
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: bunch of other stuff. But here's what I'm getting at.

912
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Speaker 2: Are they going to play a game here with the

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Speaker 2: various you know, high level democrats in your state. You've

914
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Speaker 2: got the governor is what's his name? Shapiro, You've got Shapiro,

915
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Speaker 2: You've got Fetterman. Are they going to do the whole Oh,

916
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Speaker 2: we go our own way. We're not these crazy leftist

917
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Speaker 2: democrats that have been running the country the last four years. Like,

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Speaker 2: I just want to know if we're if you're seeing that,

919
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Speaker 2: and if that's something you're trying to get ahead of

920
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Speaker 2: right where they do the head fake of well, we're

921
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Speaker 2: not crazy like the rest of the Democrats in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually think you know, Fedaman's a mystery to

923
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Speaker 6: me too, But I think we're in such a crisis.

924
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Speaker 6: I think you have to just call balls and strikes.

925
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Speaker 6: And I'm sure Fetterman and I disagree on ninety percent

926
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Speaker 6: of his views, but on this crisis with Israel, what's

927
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Speaker 6: happening in the campuses, he's been a voice of clarity

928
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Speaker 6: and moral courage, and I appreciate it. So I've said,

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Speaker 6: I've said, you know, on this John Feederm and I agree,

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Speaker 6: and uh, I think it actually makes Casey look that

931
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Speaker 6: much weaker because here, you here, you have an example

932
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Speaker 6: of someone who is from the Democratic Party, very progressive,

933
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Speaker 6: who sees the right and wrong of this. I give him,

934
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Speaker 6: I give him all the benefit of doubt. I think

935
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Speaker 6: he really believes everything he's saying, and I think he's uh,

936
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Speaker 6: he's stepping up and saying it. Where Casey tries to

937
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Speaker 6: have it both ways. Let me give you an example.

938
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Speaker 6: He says he's against anti Semitism, and then he endorses

939
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Speaker 6: Summer Lead, who is a member of the Squad and

940
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Speaker 6: in explicitly anti Semitic and has been associated with all

941
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Speaker 6: these radical groups, has refused to call uh October seventh

942
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Speaker 6: genocide and a and a and a you know, a

943
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Speaker 6: barbaric act that it was. So you can't have it

944
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Speaker 6: both ways. This is a test. This is a test

945
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Speaker 6: for these college presidents, it's a test for our public. Officials.

946
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Speaker 6: Are you going to call call balls and strikes right

947
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Speaker 6: and wrong, good and evil? His credit has been good

948
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 6: on this, Bob Ksey, not so much.

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Speaker 3: We hear a lot about the get out the vote

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Speaker 3: campaign that Pennsylvania has, and one of the stats that

951
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Speaker 3: I saw and that I hammer home, half the vote

952
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: was in for Federman before they even got to the

953
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: debate on the ground. Are Republicans not only for your

954
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: campaign but also for Donald Trump's going to have a

955
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: ground game so far as you can tell, that is

956
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Speaker 3: competitive with what Democrats have been able to do the

957
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Speaker 3: last couple of cycles in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. I'd say two things. One, Pennsylvania's

959
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 6: becoming redder and redder. Pennsylvania will be a red state

960
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Speaker 6: by twenty twenty six that's the big news. In twenty sixteen,

961
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Speaker 6: there were a million more registered Democrats and Republicans. Right

962
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Speaker 6: now there's three hundred and ninety thousand registered Democrats more

963
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Speaker 6: than Republicans, and by election day I think it'll be

964
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Speaker 6: three hundred. So we are becoming redder because of some

965
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Speaker 6: of the demographic shifts, because a lot of Democrats are

966
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 6: leaving the party and becoming Republicans. Working families and so

967
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Speaker 6: we get the win that are back that way. And

968
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Speaker 6: the key is to get these voters registered and get

969
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Speaker 6: them out to vote. And there's a lot of effort

970
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Speaker 6: being put into a ground game to do that. And

971
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Speaker 6: then the second thing is mail in ballots. And listen,

972
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 6: this is an area where I think we have alignment.

973
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Speaker 6: There's an outside group and a lot of efforts to

974
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Speaker 6: bring resources and focus on this. And President Trump, who

975
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Speaker 6: has been skeptical of mail in ballots and I think,

976
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 6: has essentially laid out his position which he's encouraged all

977
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Speaker 6: forms of voting, including mail in ballots in Pennsylvania. He

978
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Speaker 6: recognizes that we need that to win Pennsylvania. We need

979
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Speaker 6: to close that gap. We're not going to exceed the Democrats,

980
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Speaker 6: but we need to close that gap. His campaign and

981
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 6: my campaign and the RNC and all the various groups

982
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 6: are very aligned and working together on this. So it's

983
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Speaker 6: a big advantage the Democrats have. We're not going to

984
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 6: fix that advantage overnight, but I think we were going

985
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Speaker 6: to have an opportunity to really chip away at it.

986
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Speaker 6: Pennsylvan is going to be you know, when President Trump

987
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 6: wins and I win, we're gonna win by a few points.

988
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Speaker 6: So this really matters and it's part of the battle

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Speaker 6: plan to change leadership for our commonwealth, in our country.

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Speaker 2: Dave McCormick, everybody, Dave really appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you guys are great. Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com. Thanks

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Speaker 6: for having me and hope to see you soon.

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Speaker 3: Thanks someone, We will see you soon, for sure. I'm

995
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Speaker 3: gonna come up there. I'm gonna find a game. I'm

996
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Speaker 3: going to campaign with you. Can't wait to get up

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Speaker 3: to this, all right, I.

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Speaker 6: Was gonna say it. I'm ready, man, we can we

999
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 6: can find a big pen steak game. It'll be fun.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we're gonna do it. I promise we'll get it

1001
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Speaker 3: on the schedule here coming up soon. I got to

1002
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Speaker 3: sooner rather than later. We'll figure out a game that is.

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Speaker 3: Dave McCormick. Encourage you to go check out the website,

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Speaker 3: get registered if you're not registered in Pennsylvania, because you've

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