WEBVTT - Calculatin' Summabitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington broadcast center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty. And now he is Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking to Steve Hilton later this hour. He's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy running his Republican for governor in California. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>to replace Gavin Newsom. Okay, I'm going to say this

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<v Speaker 2>out loud. You're all going to beat me up. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he's got a chance of winning against Javier Becerra,

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<v Speaker 2>the former HHS secretary, because of the way everything's so

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<v Speaker 2>locked in this blue state with the unions and all

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff. But pretty interesting. One thing we'll

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<v Speaker 2>ask him about is Gavin Newsom came out yesterday and said,

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<v Speaker 2>if Kamala Harris runs for president, I won't. What is

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<v Speaker 2>that strategy about? Maybe we'll get into that with Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Hilton later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a calculating some bitch, is that Gavin Newsom?

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<v Speaker 1>Calculating some bitch. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. The power, I

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<v Speaker 1>can only imagine it. It's like some weird tribe that

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<v Speaker 1>has 40 words for snow or whatever. Trying to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>what the maneuvering looks like in the upper reaches of

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat politics, but... Yeah, if he is seen as resting,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to wrest the crown from her, that would be bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, more on that. I certainly came the closest I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever come to being on a jury yesterday. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was on the jury. I basically was

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<v Speaker 2>on the jury there very briefly. Before I got kicked off,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have to talk about that a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 2>But the jurors from the Clancy trial, if you remember that,

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<v Speaker 2>the woman who killed her kids... The jurors are still talking,

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<v Speaker 2>doing interviews. We're learning more about the deliberations and what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on, and there's some shocking stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, some fine, condescending white ladies, too, talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to let Ms.

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<v Speaker 2>Clancy off. It was 11 to 1.

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<v Speaker 1>To say she was too crazy to take responsibility for

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<v Speaker 1>slowly strangling her three children one after the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was the one holdout, though? Who was the one holdout?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll learn more about that. Gayle King was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>that on the early show on CBS with one of

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<v Speaker 2>the jurors.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it

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<v Speaker 3>was nine women, three men.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the age range? What was the racial makeup?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard any of that. What was it?

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<v Speaker 4>70-ish to 22. And one person of color and then

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<v Speaker 4>everybody else was white.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the jurors had children.

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<v Speaker 4>One person of color was a person of color, a

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<v Speaker 4>woman or a man?

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<v Speaker 2>A man.

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<v Speaker 5>A man.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a holdout juror a black man?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>A black man is a holdout juror? Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. Why? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet you do, because you're a racist. Why do

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<v Speaker 2>you have to sit with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you view everyone's actions and attitudes through the lens

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<v Speaker 1>of race.

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<v Speaker 2>Why does that have anything to do with anything? It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have anything to do with anything. Unless you're a racist.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you're a racist and you assign attributes to people

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<v Speaker 2>based on their skin color, which is the definition of

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<v Speaker 2>being a racist.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>In Gayle King's woke victim oppressor world, the black man

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<v Speaker 1>can't possibly be the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So she has to sit with that for a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that this is a bad guy anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the person who couldn't deal with letting someone

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<v Speaker 2>go who murdered their kids. I can see where they're

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<v Speaker 2>coming from. Although that was a specific question a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in the jury selection yesterday that I was involved in.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you, are you okay with, you know... coming up

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<v Speaker 2>with a vote of guilty in these situations. And although, man,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody murdered their kids, that's a whole different kettle of fish. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so who's this next person we're going to hear from?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it is a TikToker of some sort, a

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<v Speaker 2>woke youngster.

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<v Speaker 6>The holdout juror in the Lindsey Clancy trial was a

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<v Speaker 6>black man. And I'm not going to share any opinions

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<v Speaker 6>because I'm not a person of color. I am a

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<v Speaker 6>non-practicing white.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised.

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<v Speaker 6>It changes the landscape of the conversation a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think a lot of us were assuming that

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<v Speaker 6>it was a white man.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so nuts. Correct. The fact that Gayle King

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of, whoa, I need to sit. She's already sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to sit down for a second. This is

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<v Speaker 2>just a slouch. How do I process this? What is

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<v Speaker 2>there to process? There's nothing here. There's no information of

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<v Speaker 2>any interest whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at least the tic-tacker girl wouldn't offer an opinion

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<v Speaker 1>because she's not a person of color and she's a

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<v Speaker 1>non-practicing white.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard that phrase before. What's a non-practicing white? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you could guess. Come on.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a white person who disavows whiteness to show how

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<v Speaker 1>pure and enlightened she is.

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't hate me for being white. I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate white people, too. I hate America. I'm an anti-racist.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't hurt me. How do you all not get that assigning...

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<v Speaker 2>personality traits to skin color is the textbook one-line definition

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<v Speaker 2>of racism. How do you not get that?

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>You're upsetting their entire worldview, you realize. Be gentle.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Different topic. This made a lot of noise over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Let me just elaborate on that just for

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<v Speaker 2>a second. This is absolutely wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a blind taste test where you confront these

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<v Speaker 1>people with several different roles being played, but don't pre-inform

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<v Speaker 1>them that one of the parties is actually a Palestinian

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<v Speaker 1>or a member of Hamas. And Or one of the

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<v Speaker 1>party is a black man, or this other party in

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<v Speaker 1>this blind taste test is a white person, and just

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<v Speaker 1>let them go on the merits. And then when they

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<v Speaker 1>go on the merits and are confronted with what goes

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<v Speaker 1>against their worldview, they're so freaked out, like, you know, King,

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<v Speaker 1>she can't even process it. They can't handle a blind

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<v Speaker 1>taste test because they're racists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't even imagine why she was just so

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<v Speaker 2>disturbed by that. But so, as we talked about a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all know, going on outside the courtroom was

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<v Speaker 2>this weird coming together of support for the murdering mom

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<v Speaker 2>by a certain percentage of people across the country. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the holding up babies on social media saying,

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<v Speaker 2>me too. And all that sort of stuff, which is

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<v Speaker 2>just pretty crazy. What was the caption, Katie? It was... Same, Lindsay. Same, Lindsay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a very direct statement that I, too,

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<v Speaker 1>could kill my baby and would be justified.

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<v Speaker 2>I live on the verge of murdering my children, too,

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<v Speaker 2>because they woke me up in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the line that gets crossed for you for

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<v Speaker 2>strangling your kids to death?

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<v Speaker 1>Being desperate for the approval of people online.

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<v Speaker 2>But we knew that conversation was going on outside the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of hoping it wasn't going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the courtroom, that they were just looking at having just

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<v Speaker 2>sat through all this jury instruction and stuff yesterday, just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the facts and applying them to the law

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<v Speaker 2>that you have in front of you. But apparently that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the only thing going on, according to this juror.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew.

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<v Speaker 7>That this was a turning point and this would be

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<v Speaker 7>something that could change something to make it better for

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<v Speaker 7>other women in the future, for other families. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>justice for those children is this never happening again.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like when you're a juror, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be looking at a big picture, sending a message for

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<v Speaker 2>the future. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That is something, isn't it? So that I wondered, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>that suggest that they were having that conversation in the room?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I suppose it's possible that they were breaking the

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<v Speaker 2>rules of jurors and discussing the case, you know, during

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<v Speaker 2>breaks or whatever. And some of them were like, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I sure hope we get to send the message that

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard being a mom. If they were having that

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<v Speaker 2>out loud with the other jurors and there wasn't somebody saying, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not in the sending a message business here. We're

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<v Speaker 2>in the looking at the facts, applying it to the

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<v Speaker 2>law business. How this plays out is outside our hands.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe there wasn't anybody in there that would

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<v Speaker 2>say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that one holdout rogue evil juror who turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be a black man, so never mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, boy, is that something.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew this would be a turning point. The gal

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<v Speaker 1>went to multiple doctors, got all sorts of drugs, all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of care.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody was aware of it. What sort of blow is

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<v Speaker 2>this going to strike? I don't even get rationally.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to rationally understand her point and then

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<v Speaker 1>either accept it or reject it. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>what she means.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can't accept it just straight as a juror, though,

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<v Speaker 2>can you? If you have it on your mind at

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<v Speaker 2>all that I'm striking a blow for something with this,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't make sense to me. Correct, yeah. That's clouding

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<v Speaker 2>your judgment, clearly clouding your judgment, because you have an

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<v Speaker 2>opinion of which direction this topic should go that's being

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<v Speaker 2>factored into applying the law and the facts. Right, outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the evidence, et cetera. Yeah, I would agree. That's horrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to know that. Were they having out

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<v Speaker 2>loud conversations, the 12 of them, about what this will

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<v Speaker 2>do for history and women and whatever? That's nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it a little difficult to believe they didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>given the things I've heard them say afterward. And there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't one person in the room that said what I

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<v Speaker 1>just said.

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<v Speaker 2>A few minutes ago? Whoa, this isn't our role? To

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<v Speaker 2>change the tide of history in the view of what

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<v Speaker 2>it's like to be a mom?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to quote, I believe, maybe that same gal we

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<v Speaker 1>just heard from, he just couldn't get past the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she savagely murdered her three children.

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<v Speaker 2>So he held out. He was immune to their quote-unquote reasoning.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we got another. Oh, this is an author.

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<v Speaker 2>taking this point of view on the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Lindsay Clancy, I want to say this to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care if you ever literally hear this out

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<v Speaker 3>loud or not. I am sending all the love and

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<v Speaker 3>support in the world to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a f * * * ing hero.

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<v Speaker 3>You are divine feminine rising. Your soul came here for

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<v Speaker 3>a massive f * * * ing mission. You are

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<v Speaker 3>goddess incarnated woman. You have sacrificed so much. And I

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<v Speaker 3>am so sorry for everything that you have experienced. But

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<v Speaker 3>I am telling you that you are loved. You are

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<v Speaker 3>supported more than you could ever f * * *

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<v Speaker 3>ing realize. And there are so many people in this

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<v Speaker 3>world who have the ability to help you and will

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<v Speaker 3>support you for the rest of your f * * *

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<v Speaker 3>ing life because you deserve it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's abhorrent.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Fiore's teachings on oneness consciousness and begin your journey

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<v Speaker 1>toward inner peace and expanded awareness.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if four people have read and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a self-published book or if she's a real author. I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a spiritual leader and founder CEO of Masters of

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<v Speaker 1>Self University.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I could call myself that, too. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how much heft she has, but that is an abhorrent

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<v Speaker 2>point of view. I mean, just absolutely abhorrent. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have had to lived many years ago where you would

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<v Speaker 2>have been so shunned by society for saying that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. You'd have been done.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. We live in the era of victimhood and feelings

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<v Speaker 1>and no standards.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there are really no standards if you were a

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<v Speaker 1>You're an effing hero for strangling your children and hurling

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<v Speaker 1>yourself out a window. Just like George Floyd was a hero,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. And you sacrificed so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about the three dead kids you strangled to death.

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<v Speaker 2>Or their father. Including the two that had to watch

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<v Speaker 2>a sibling or two be strangled to death. Picture that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then dad. Right. And grandparents. And I'm sure there

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<v Speaker 2>are other people involved that are pretty marked emotionally for

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<v Speaker 5>The NFL's big return from being known as the No

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<v Speaker 5>Fun League for banning some of the best celebrations to

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<v Speaker 5>now celebrating the celebration itself. Yep, the league's official kickoff

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<v Speaker 5>campaign this season has one of the NFL's most viral

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<v Speaker 5>on-field celebrators, Cameron Bynum, coaching others on the art of

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<v Speaker 5>the shimmy, the shake, the worm, and more.

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<v Speaker 2>So after all these years, we've been saying for years,

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<v Speaker 2>let them do their dances. The No Fun League, the NFL. What?

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<v Speaker 2>So now they're going to encourage player celebrations on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>As we've been saying forever, it's a TV show. I

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<v Speaker 2>tuned in to be entertained. I find those dances pretty entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't be like terrible and abusive, but I'm shocked

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that because I was watching the highlights.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was last night.

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<v Speaker 1>And some dude, I think, was it the Chargers? I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember. He scored a touchdown and he jumped up

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<v Speaker 1>against the padding around.

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<v Speaker 2>The bottom of the goal post. I saw that.

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<v Speaker 1>And he wrapped his arms and legs around it, then

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<v Speaker 1>let go and jumped. He did not hump it. He

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<v Speaker 1>did not simulate anything. And the ref immediately threw the

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<v Speaker 1>flag on him. Is that a specific rule violation? You

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<v Speaker 1>can't defile the padding? I'm like, why did they flag him?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know. Well, then they're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to have very specific rules around where you cross the line.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get what was wrong. Yeah. Okay, so we

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<v Speaker 2>got a million texts on something that is completely not important.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Terrell Owens, not Vernon Davis, who danced on

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<v Speaker 2>the logo. I.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry for getting my 20 year old, uh, outlandish 49ers

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<v Speaker 2>receivers mixed up. And you did. If that's the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>mistake I make today, I'll be in pretty good shape. Um, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was misled by AI, which is its only

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<v Speaker 2>interesting thing, which I think it was doing a confirmation thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Cause I said, it doesn't make any difference. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get off, get off on that, but that

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<v Speaker 2>is a little disturbing that once again, on something I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't sure about the AI got it wrong. Um, Not important.

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<v Speaker 2>What is, is there's a new AI for anybody who's

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<v Speaker 2>got an iPhone. Have you downloaded the latest operating system?

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<v Speaker 2>This was what was announced last week when they announced

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<v Speaker 2>the new foldable phone and everything like that. Every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while, huge remakes. Everything looks different this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to figure out how to do this and that

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<v Speaker 2>because I was used to that and this. And everything

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<v Speaker 2>is different. The Siri is supposed to be much better.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't tried it yet, but it's supposed to be full-on...

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<v Speaker 2>Like chatbot AI quality where I can just say to

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<v Speaker 2>my phone, hey, find me the email where, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the boss said I need to blah, blah, blah. And

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<v Speaker 2>it'll find it for you or all kinds of fairly

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<v Speaker 2>complicated things or, you know, go into my texts. What

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<v Speaker 2>was the address of, you know, that sort of thing?

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<v Speaker 2>If it works the way they portrayed it in the

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<v Speaker 2>review I was reading last night, it sounds fantastic. That'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a hell of an upgrade because Siri is dumb

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<v Speaker 2>as a dog. Which everybody agreed on. Not a smart dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Which everybody agreed on. It's like asking a fourth grader

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<v Speaker 2>to help you with something. I don't know. But Siri's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be full AI quality now, and that'd be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. I did use the newest version of editing photos.

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<v Speaker 2>So amazing. The scrubbing thing, like where you scrub stuff

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<v Speaker 2>out that you don't want in the picture. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how it even does that. But I took a

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<v Speaker 2>picture of a cool motorcycle at a gas station and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a car behind it, made it hard to see.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I touched the car. It lit up, got

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<v Speaker 2>rid of the car and filled in the background in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that looked perfectly real with like street and

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<v Speaker 2>bushes and stuff. Like, how did it do that?

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<v Speaker 1>But it's witchcraft. It's unnatural. It goes against God, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie, just the other day, we were talking about something.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, well, I watched the video. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>all realized together, well, it doesn't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the picture of him, right? That means nothing. Uh-oh.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Steve Hilton, who's running for governor in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, is he bringing the thunder against the half-wit Javier Becerra.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait for the chat. Stay with us. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>You got Rocana, Kamala. Yeah, I don't know if she runs,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll see. I know she's called around. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't run if she ran. If she runs, you

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<v Speaker 2>will not? Of course not. Why would I? I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do that to her. I wouldn't do it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would I? I wouldn't do that to you. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't waste everyone's time. Who needs that? What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't even make sense to me. I just, I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But first of all, electorally, it's a gift from God

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody else. They enjoy the hell out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mutual assured destruction. It services no good. greater good that's

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<v Speaker 2>gavin newsom with jake tapper who said what i was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking why the hell not that doesn't make any sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me when when when did that become a thing

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<v Speaker 2>i was surprised when marco rubio came out and said

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<v Speaker 2>if jd vance runs i won't run When does that

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<v Speaker 2>become a thing? Throughout my life of following politics, people

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<v Speaker 2>that were close friends would run against each other and

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<v Speaker 2>tear each other apart to get the nomination. When did

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<v Speaker 2>we get to this point where, no, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't run against them. We'd have to say bad things

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<v Speaker 2>about each other. What?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we're looking at a little seven-dimensional chess here.

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<v Speaker 1>The conniving class is conniving as they always do. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a number of explanations that leap to mind here.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, I'm not hiring Gavin Newsom as a political commentator.

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<v Speaker 2>That's his explanation. It didn't make any sense. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>say anything. I'm not going to run. If she runs,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't run. You won't? No, of course not. Why

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<v Speaker 2>would I?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't make any sense. I wouldn't waste their time.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't serve the greater good.

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<v Speaker 1>He is, he perceives in the dog, rip dog's throat

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<v Speaker 1>out dog world of politics that she is above him

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways, which is testament to how stupid politics are.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that half-wit, that utterly incapable politician who was

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<v Speaker 1>humiliated on a world stage. Kamala Harris is somehow above him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he perceives that, so he's got to pay his

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<v Speaker 1>respects to her for a couple reasons. So when she

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<v Speaker 1>bows out, he has not angered her. He will get

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<v Speaker 1>her support and her money. Secondly, he understands she's still

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<v Speaker 1>raising money. based on this ridiculous idea that she'll run again.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's not going to F with her hustle, as

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Armstrong famously said once, one of my favorite quotes,

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<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't need to now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, do you think they're coordinating anyway? Like, he has

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<v Speaker 2>talked to Kamala's people. He knows she's not running, so

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<v Speaker 2>he's perfectly comfortable saying that. I mean, if she announces

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<v Speaker 2>she's running, is he really going to not take his

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<v Speaker 2>shot to, quote, Alexander Hamilton, shoot his shot?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, well, you offered several different possibilities there.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be they're coordinating or the grapevine is reliable

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<v Speaker 1>enough that he's made the judgment she's not running.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think she is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's just offering herself up for horrible humiliation again.

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<v Speaker 2>As a guy who's done that a few times in

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<v Speaker 2>his life, I don't suggest doing it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but again, I don't fully understand the palace intrigue

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<v Speaker 1>that I was trying to explain before, but he perceives

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<v Speaker 1>that playing the loyal, oh, that hero to America, Kamala Harris, no. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>of course not. If George Washington runs, all of us

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<v Speaker 1>will stand aside. He will run unopposed because we all

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<v Speaker 1>are in agreement he should be. Yeah, he looks less grasping.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like a team player. He doesn't anger the

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<v Speaker 1>current queen of democratic politics. It was probably AOC anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's a calculating thing. He doesn't mean a

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<v Speaker 1>word he says.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's a dumb guy take. What's with his mannerisms,

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<v Speaker 2>his hand gestures? He's got the most awkward, unnatural... The

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<v Speaker 2>way he sits, the way he moves his body, the

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<v Speaker 2>way he gestures is really weird. It doesn't mean anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've seen enough of those videos where it's... I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what that is. It's kind of, it's quite effeminate.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I almost hate to say that because I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't matter, but it is. He's just got a

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<v Speaker 2>very kind of weird, flappy, I don't know what it is. Didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point in our career, we accused him of

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<v Speaker 2>wearing panties. I can't remember. I'm sure you did. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have no idea. He's an odd duck.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I'm not welcome amongst Marin County elite, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they act.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, apparently. Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a new thing. What's that? Acting like he doesn't? No,

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<v Speaker 2>the not running against people because you think, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>friends or.

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<v Speaker 2>You think they deserve the nomination? Well, you're assuming he

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<v Speaker 2>means it. Like I said, he doesn't mean a word

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<v Speaker 2>he says. Okay, you think Marco Rubio means it when

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<v Speaker 2>he says, if J.D. runs, I won't run? I actually

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<v Speaker 2>do think that. But why? Again, that's a new thing.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a totally different question because he's a totally different

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<v Speaker 1>human being. I think, A, he perceives that as the

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<v Speaker 1>sitting VP, he's just the presumptive go-to guy. Plus, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, he gains nothing by even hinting that he

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<v Speaker 1>might run. And what I was going to say is the,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no plans to run or no. And then

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<v Speaker 1>later you jump in with both feet at what you

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<v Speaker 1>always intended to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's as old as the hills. So they're just dressing

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<v Speaker 2>it up differently, I think. Okay. I think Newsom is formidable, unfortunately,

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:22.780
<v Speaker 2>I think. This is embarrassing. So, if she runs, that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be something. And keep him on the sideline?

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin does not have anywhere near the chops it takes

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<v Speaker 1>on a national level.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if she does run, do you think he honors

0:24:35.090 --> 0:24:36.990
<v Speaker 2>his commitment and sits this one out? I think that'd

0:24:37.030 --> 0:24:40.270
<v Speaker 2>be a huge mistake. Barack Obama's the only one who

0:24:40.770 --> 0:24:43.490
<v Speaker 2>played this right in the last how many years? You

0:24:43.530 --> 0:24:45.990
<v Speaker 2>gotta go when you're hot. That hole, I'll wait for

0:24:46.010 --> 0:24:49.430
<v Speaker 2>the next time. Things move so fast in four years

0:24:49.930 --> 0:24:53.350
<v Speaker 2>or eight years. You're just Chris Christie waiting. You don't

0:24:53.390 --> 0:24:55.730
<v Speaker 2>want to wait. When you're hot and you got the

0:24:55.770 --> 0:24:58.770
<v Speaker 2>attention of people, you got to go. So you think

0:24:58.790 --> 0:25:03.859
<v Speaker 2>he'll actually sit out of Kamala? The idiot runs. No, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, and he shares this in common with Rubio.

0:25:08.340 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>There is no good that comes of saying, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to take you on right now. It's actually straight out

0:25:16.510 --> 0:25:21.090
<v Speaker 1>of Sung Tzu and the Chinese, what is it, the

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<v Speaker 1>112 Principles or 26?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember. It's in a book right over there.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the main strategies is do not show

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<v Speaker 1>be cooperative, be friendly, act like an ally or at

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<v Speaker 2>NordVPN. Connect and protect. I want to talk about my

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.120
<v Speaker 2>experience trying to get on a jury yesterday and getting

0:27:03.140 --> 0:27:05.919
<v Speaker 2>booted off and everything at some point. What did you

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.630
<v Speaker 2>have coming up that you're all excited about?

0:27:08.330 --> 0:27:12.310
<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, oh, the New York Times scolding America that

0:27:12.369 --> 0:27:16.950
<v Speaker 1>these nice people are not communists. They dabble in socialism

0:27:16.990 --> 0:27:18.770
<v Speaker 1>a bit, but they're certainly not communists.

0:27:18.830 --> 0:27:20.330
<v Speaker 2>It's a red scare. And then we.

0:27:20.390 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Will take you inside the DSA, and there are many

0:27:24.020 --> 0:27:27.500
<v Speaker 1>caucuses within, you know, like the Democratic Party has the

0:27:27.540 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Blue Dog Caucus or whatever. They have that within the DSA.

0:27:31.180 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Crazy. So yesterday may be the day that we officially

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.290
<v Speaker 2>drew lines in the whole AI thing. Republicans are going

0:27:39.350 --> 0:27:39.670
<v Speaker 2>to be.

0:27:41.510 --> 0:27:43.530
<v Speaker 2>AI is overblown. It's nothing to worry about. It's a

0:27:43.550 --> 0:27:45.869
<v Speaker 2>hoax for people who claim it is. And Democrats are

0:27:45.890 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>going to be the people who say be afraid, be

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 2>very afraid about AI. And those are the tribes. I

0:27:51.180 --> 0:27:53.180
<v Speaker 2>hope that's not what happened because I don't want this

0:27:53.300 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 2>to be one of those topics. But it may very

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.970
<v Speaker 2>well be as of yesterday because of what Trump said,

0:27:58.090 --> 0:28:00.369
<v Speaker 2>what Obama said, et cetera, et cetera. We'll get to

0:28:00.390 --> 0:28:02.990
<v Speaker 2>that in hour three, probably. Lots on the way. Stay here.

0:28:04.490 --> 0:28:08.270
<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty. I'm going to do a little glimpse

0:28:08.310 --> 0:28:10.229
<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes here that I think is kind of interesting.

0:28:10.270 --> 0:28:12.230
<v Speaker 2>Hanson just told me this story. So we were supposed

0:28:12.250 --> 0:28:15.270
<v Speaker 2>to have Steve Hilton on. If you're a Fox fan,

0:28:15.290 --> 0:28:17.250
<v Speaker 2>you've seen him on Fox many, many times. He had

0:28:17.290 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>his own show. He's running for governor in California. Biggest

0:28:22.780 --> 0:28:25.100
<v Speaker 2>state meeting. Big deal. He's the Republican nominee. That's a

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.820
<v Speaker 2>really big deal. I don't think he has a chance

0:28:27.859 --> 0:28:32.030
<v Speaker 2>to win. I'm sure he would hate me saying that,

0:28:32.430 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>but Lon He Chen, our friend Lon He, who got

0:28:36.700 --> 0:28:39.540
<v Speaker 2>more votes than any Republican in the entire United States

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 2>that election, with the backing of the L.A. Times and

0:28:42.860 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>the San Francisco Chronicle.

0:28:45.260 --> 0:28:47.570
<v Speaker 1>Every major paper in the state, yes.

0:28:47.830 --> 0:28:51.150
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't win and made the point that this state is

0:28:51.290 --> 0:28:54.330
<v Speaker 2>so freaking mobbed up with the unions and all the

0:28:54.370 --> 0:28:55.970
<v Speaker 2>different political actors, it's just.

0:28:57.460 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, every time you bring that up, I always reply

0:28:59.460 --> 0:29:02.830
<v Speaker 1>with this. Even if he just makes his point good

0:29:02.890 --> 0:29:05.630
<v Speaker 1>and loud and wakes up a certain percentage of the population,

0:29:05.650 --> 0:29:09.570
<v Speaker 1>moves the ball down the field, next election maybe, the

0:29:09.590 --> 0:29:10.330
<v Speaker 1>Republican has a chance.

0:29:10.410 --> 0:29:12.770
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying don't run or try, but I just

0:29:12.790 --> 0:29:14.930
<v Speaker 2>don't think he would. But I've always wondered what it's

0:29:15.020 --> 0:29:19.420
<v Speaker 2>like in a losing campaign. It's got to be. I

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:25.410
<v Speaker 2>can't imagine the stress and the finger pointing that just

0:29:25.450 --> 0:29:28.090
<v Speaker 2>I feel like is inevitable if you're in one of

0:29:28.130 --> 0:29:30.390
<v Speaker 2>those situations. Anyway, we're trying to get him on the

0:29:30.430 --> 0:29:32.650
<v Speaker 2>phone and we're having some sort of problem with the line.

0:29:32.950 --> 0:29:35.310
<v Speaker 2>How did that go down? Executive producer hansen.

0:29:35.170 --> 0:29:37.830
<v Speaker 8>Yeah i i think there was a bit of maybe

0:29:37.870 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 8>miscommunication with the staff first of all but then secondly

0:29:41.380 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 8>uh phone systems just suck these days you know we

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.740
<v Speaker 8>can't we can't even use them anymore and he had

0:29:46.780 --> 0:29:48.180
<v Speaker 8>a bad connection.

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>So it was i did it's a landline, but this

0:29:54.220 --> 0:29:54.940
<v Speaker 2>is terrible.

0:29:55.530 --> 0:29:58.550
<v Speaker 8>And he was pissed, but he wanted to come on

0:29:58.610 --> 0:29:59.650
<v Speaker 8>and talk to you guys, and he had a big

0:29:59.690 --> 0:30:02.170
<v Speaker 8>plan and a big event he's got going today, but yeah.

0:30:02.370 --> 0:30:05.450
<v Speaker 2>Hanson said he was quite livid and with lots of

0:30:06.130 --> 0:30:11.510
<v Speaker 2>flowery language on whatever had happened, and I just think

0:30:11.670 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>that I can't imagine what it feels like when you're

0:30:15.860 --> 0:30:19.390
<v Speaker 2>trying to push the boulder up the hill in a

0:30:19.430 --> 0:30:22.670
<v Speaker 2>campaign when you're up against all these different forces. Yeah,

0:30:22.710 --> 0:30:26.270
<v Speaker 2>it's hard enough. Oh, my gosh. Stupid stuff.

0:30:26.590 --> 0:30:26.950
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:30:27.290 --> 0:30:29.390
<v Speaker 2>All right. I wish Hanson could use the language he

0:30:29.450 --> 0:30:32.830
<v Speaker 2>used on me when he said I was going down

0:30:32.870 --> 0:30:35.470
<v Speaker 2>trying to get the phone line working. But you just,

0:30:35.670 --> 0:30:37.730
<v Speaker 2>you would have that feeling of, oh, it's like watching

0:30:37.770 --> 0:30:40.030
<v Speaker 2>a team lose a football game. It'd be exactly like

0:30:40.050 --> 0:30:43.220
<v Speaker 2>the Denver Broncos sidelined last night. It'd just be like,

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 2>nothing is working. How did you, we're already, it would

0:30:49.340 --> 0:30:52.700
<v Speaker 2>be so frustrating. Or the Rams the other night. You

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.970
<v Speaker 2>got to regroup. So what am I allowed to say

0:30:56.070 --> 0:31:00.050
<v Speaker 2>or not allowed to say about my jury situation? I

0:31:00.070 --> 0:31:01.930
<v Speaker 2>can say anything now, right?

0:31:02.330 --> 0:31:02.510
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

0:31:04.690 --> 0:31:08.130
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so legally I can say anything. Says I got

0:31:08.170 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>booted off. I didn't make the jury the trial that

0:31:10.130 --> 0:31:16.540
<v Speaker 2>starts today. Legal, I can say anything. How about ethically? Ethically,

0:31:16.940 --> 0:31:19.740
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say much about the case. I don't need

0:31:19.780 --> 0:31:23.020
<v Speaker 2>to say anything about the case, really, I don't think. Well,

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.060
<v Speaker 2>that's it. That's it. Other than that, I mean, I

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:29.620
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't slander anybody. So there is a fair amount of luck.

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>If you've never done this before or made it this far,

0:31:32.620 --> 0:31:34.150
<v Speaker 2>there's a fair amount of luck to ending up on

0:31:34.190 --> 0:31:36.890
<v Speaker 2>a jury just because I have gone a bunch of

0:31:36.930 --> 0:31:38.650
<v Speaker 2>times where you got a big room of people and

0:31:38.690 --> 0:31:40.810
<v Speaker 2>they say, everybody who's an A, you can go home.

0:31:41.210 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Everybody who's a B, okay, so the B's made it

0:31:43.620 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 2>to the next step. You know for just random reasons

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>they're randomly picking all these different people Then I finally

0:31:50.100 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 2>made it into the room and then then it's the

0:31:52.260 --> 0:31:55.420
<v Speaker 2>random who gets to sit in the 12 seats That

0:31:55.500 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 2>are the most likely people to end up on the

0:31:57.820 --> 0:32:01.590
<v Speaker 2>jury unless they're disqualified for some reason or whatever And

0:32:01.670 --> 0:32:03.350
<v Speaker 2>I made it to that step. So I was going

0:32:03.390 --> 0:32:06.530
<v Speaker 2>to be Juror number nine and I was very excited

0:32:06.570 --> 0:32:08.350
<v Speaker 2>about this I thought i'm gonna be on a dang

0:32:08.370 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>jury and I wanted to be and uh went through

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.370
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of different questioning and filled out this form

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.970
<v Speaker 2>and did all these different things, and I had no

0:32:18.030 --> 0:32:20.650
<v Speaker 2>problem with any of the things anybody brought up, unlike

0:32:21.030 --> 0:32:22.790
<v Speaker 2>one other trial I was on one time where I

0:32:22.830 --> 0:32:25.010
<v Speaker 2>just thought the point of view of one of the

0:32:25.050 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>lawyers was ridiculous, and I got booted off for obvious reasons.

0:32:30.260 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I was in line with everybody else on this one,

0:32:34.390 --> 0:32:38.110
<v Speaker 2>And there are other people that had problems with some

0:32:38.150 --> 0:32:40.930
<v Speaker 2>of the instructions, like really a lot of questions. I'm

0:32:40.970 --> 0:32:43.810
<v Speaker 2>not sure if I can like this one. I'd never heard.

0:32:43.990 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I'd never heard this before. This is a law in California.

0:32:47.190 --> 0:32:49.140
<v Speaker 2>And maybe it only applies to misdemeanors. I don't I

0:32:49.180 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I didn't get far enough to get to

0:32:50.540 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 2>full jury instructions. But it was. Are you OK with

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>convicting someone, finding someone guilty on the testimony of one witness?

0:32:59.530 --> 0:33:01.970
<v Speaker 2>All we have is one person's version of the story.

0:33:02.470 --> 0:33:06.110
<v Speaker 2>By law in California, you can find somebody guilty on

0:33:06.130 --> 0:33:09.969
<v Speaker 2>the testimony of one person. And the question was, are

0:33:10.010 --> 0:33:11.340
<v Speaker 2>you okay with that? And there were a couple of

0:33:11.380 --> 0:33:13.340
<v Speaker 2>people like, I don't know if I could find somebody

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>guilty based on one person's word. And so they questioned it,

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't get kicked off. I said I had

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.610
<v Speaker 2>no problem with it. And also, I didn't know that

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.610
<v Speaker 2>was a thing. I'd never really thought about it before,

0:33:25.650 --> 0:33:27.030
<v Speaker 2>but I suppose it has to be.

0:33:29.490 --> 0:33:32.250
<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm surprised there are any laws to that

0:33:32.470 --> 0:33:35.150
<v Speaker 1>on that question at all. It's up to the jury

0:33:35.190 --> 0:33:37.290
<v Speaker 1>to decide whether the state has made their case.

0:33:37.850 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Anyway. So they went through the so the judge

0:33:46.380 --> 0:33:49.980
<v Speaker 2>allowed a few people got replaced who had had similar

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.530
<v Speaker 2>crimes in their lives and for obvious reasons. Shouldn't be

0:33:54.590 --> 0:33:56.750
<v Speaker 2>on the jury and all that sort of stuff. Then

0:33:56.770 --> 0:33:59.750
<v Speaker 2>they did a sidebar with the two attorneys come back

0:34:00.570 --> 0:34:07.390
<v Speaker 2>and the prosecuting attorney who works for the county when

0:34:07.430 --> 0:34:09.720
<v Speaker 2>he was given his couple of choices to boot people off.

0:34:10.580 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, immediately. And here's what I think happened. I

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 2>got the look from him. When I first saw him,

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.990
<v Speaker 2>that I get at grocery stores, that I get at schools,

0:34:25.450 --> 0:34:27.650
<v Speaker 2>that I get a very pleasant as a minor celebrity.

0:34:28.650 --> 0:34:31.810
<v Speaker 2>It's just you come to know the look if you're,

0:34:32.310 --> 0:34:34.590
<v Speaker 2>and I mean minor, but if you're a minor celebrity,

0:34:35.510 --> 0:34:37.469
<v Speaker 2>there's a certain look people give when they look your way,

0:34:37.489 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and then they kind of get wide-eyed like, oh, I

0:34:39.739 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>know who you are. Right, you see the recognition. Yeah,

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.100
<v Speaker 2>and you get used to it because I'm about to

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.540
<v Speaker 2>have a conversation about the radio show, which is fine.

0:34:48.140 --> 0:34:51.259
<v Speaker 2>Usually followed with the middle finger, generally speaking. Or a

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:55.219
<v Speaker 2>punch right in the stomach. Right in the stomach. Oof. No, actually,

0:34:55.260 --> 0:34:57.779
<v Speaker 2>it's usually followed by lovely, lovely people. But I think

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.410
<v Speaker 2>I got that look from the guy, and I think

0:35:02.010 --> 0:35:05.149
<v Speaker 2>he thought, all things being equal, I'd rather not have

0:35:05.210 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>this case discussed at length next week when it's over.

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.259
<v Speaker 2>I don't see any upside to that because I would have.

0:35:11.630 --> 0:35:15.150
<v Speaker 2>I would have discussed it at length. The jury deliberation,

0:35:15.330 --> 0:35:18.509
<v Speaker 2>the crime, the all the different stuff. Even if I

0:35:18.510 --> 0:35:22.109
<v Speaker 2>was perfectly happy with the verdict, I would have talked

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.900
<v Speaker 2>about it at length. And he and he I my

0:35:24.940 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 2>guess would be he thought, I just don't want that. Yeah,

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I speculated via text. We were talking about this one.

0:35:30.739 --> 0:35:31.860
<v Speaker 2>And was it last night that I'm.

0:35:33.070 --> 0:35:37.210
<v Speaker 1>He was afraid perhaps you'd said or tweeted something ridiculous,

0:35:37.250 --> 0:35:39.779
<v Speaker 1>like they wouldn't arrest him if they weren't guilty, which

0:35:39.860 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>is what you tweeted.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:45.379
<v Speaker 2>The other day, right? Roughly. But, you know, it's hard

0:35:45.420 --> 0:35:47.820
<v Speaker 2>to say. It's hard to say. I like your theory.

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.299
<v Speaker 1>He just thought all things being equal, I don't need

0:35:50.340 --> 0:35:51.890
<v Speaker 1>the possible headache.

0:35:52.070 --> 0:35:54.469
<v Speaker 2>Because there was another person. I don't know if this

0:35:54.489 --> 0:35:56.509
<v Speaker 2>would be cool or not since the trials and sessions,

0:35:56.530 --> 0:36:00.050
<v Speaker 2>but there was another high-level media person. They didn't get booted.

0:36:00.989 --> 0:36:03.930
<v Speaker 2>But they're not, they're retired. They're not going to go

0:36:04.070 --> 0:36:06.549
<v Speaker 2>on the radio and talk at length about every bit

0:36:06.710 --> 0:36:09.549
<v Speaker 2>of the, you know, and maybe make comments about the

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers and all kinds. That's the way I am. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's why I got booted. which is disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was hurt. I mean, I thought, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>I was already planning. I was already working out the

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<v Speaker 2>child care situation, like how am I going to get

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<v Speaker 2>my kids picked up and the Boy Scouts and the

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<v Speaker 2>sports and different sort of stuff. With the trial, it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be quite an interruption for my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I was picking out what I was going to wear

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<v Speaker 2>because it's really hot in there, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>decide to wear this. I was maybe going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to the one juror who smelled like In-N-Out. Hey, what

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<v Speaker 2>did you do? Go to In-N-Out and take the cheeseburgers

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<v Speaker 2>and rub them on your body?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good thing to say in the jury box, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Because somebody after the long hour and a half lunch

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<v Speaker 2>break smelled like somebody stuck an In-N-Out cheeseburger on my face.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you eat in a place like that, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to stink like a burger.

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<v Speaker 2>See, but this is part of the bargain. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the very sort of comment, what I just made, that

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<v Speaker 2>he thought, I don't need this. And he booted me off.

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<v Speaker 2>But I walked to my car. My heart hurt like

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<v Speaker 2>I got dumped by a girlfriend. I just thought, what?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not good enough for this?

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<v Speaker 1>Rejected by the justice system that's desperate for jurors. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that hurt. Well, I'm not on a jury. Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and Getty.