WEBVTT - The Premium Pete EP 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.480 We'd like to welcome everyone to another episode Against the 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:11.399 Chronicles podcast This Morning, I don't have my homeboys eight 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.880 is presidently on tour, James Handless Mother Business. But you 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.680 know what those guys doing, what they're doing, what I'm doing, 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.959 What I'm doing This Morning Days gets the former co 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:27.280 host legendary comeback Jack So he's also major brand so 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:32.200 sneak ahead and foody on top of all this. Yeh's 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.320 a pretty dope ass podcast. Premium Pete Show Chromes is 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.960 welcome to Homeboy Premium Pete. He was cracking up. Thanks, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.480 thanks for having me. First off, I know I don't 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.199 know your other co hosts, but I'm sure they're like 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.440 nine o'clock man, Premium Pete. You know, man, you know 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.240 what Actually m c A he left the Goo on 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.840 tour Mother Man, You're right. He was like, Man, I 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.880 can't do that. I gotta take my son and do this. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.960 Am You know what I mean? Oh no, you know 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:08.839 what doom dudes, don't get looking around. Man's love. Man, Listen, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.720 you know what I mean. I beat to my own drum. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:12.520 You know what I mean. I make a good rhythm 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.840 of it. You know so well? You know before we 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.880 get started man. Obviously I'm a major fan man, been 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.399 uh rocking with your movement for a long time. I 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.800 like how you keep it real and keep it funky. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:28.800 Something today that seems to have disappear. Yeah, I mean 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.479 I think, like, you know, keeping it real or rocking 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.440 the boat, so to speak, is a tough thing in 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.400 this business, especially for people who are now creatives. Right 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.319 think about it, right, you know, like people who um 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.040 have their own brands now and building their own like 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.000 you know, even like you guys building your your network, 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.960 your podcast, you know, building building your you know kind 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:53.840 of cash flow and and and and building your you know, it's, um, 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.720 it's a tough world, right, you know what I mean, 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.760 it's um it's it's not built you know, to help 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.080 each other. So I think that that has been changing, 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.559 where creatives look out for creatives and more people believe 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.920 in their brands. So I think, like, you know, I 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.359 say this sort of time. But you know, Hines catch 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.840 up and uh Hellman's Mayonnaise, regardless if you funk with 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.600 them or not, those are two peoples in the ketchup 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.000 in the Mayo. But there's so many chances for gangster chronicles. 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:25.359 Mayo premium pizza sauce, you know, Joe Button Spices. I'm 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.760 making this up, you know what I'm saying of where 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.359 it's now more than just you know, just being a 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.000 podcast or more than just being one thing. You know, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.880 And I think that as creatives, you know, you gotta 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.680 keep it real because you know, some people, I get it, 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.160 they don't want to rock the boat. But unfortunately you 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.239 just waste a lot of time, you know what I mean, 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:50.760 It's real. Well, you know what today everything should be 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.320 based on someone's reality, right And I know some podcasts 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:55.959 and what we what I see, I see a lot 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.040 of Um, I've see a lot of crazy ship. Man. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.120 I see a bunch of already five fifty year old cats, 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.720 some cats even older, doing a bunch of just crazy 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:10.919 ship right now, man. Pretty much a lot of cat fighting, yeah, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.120 a lot of dudes threatening each other online, a lot 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.040 of cats talking about ship that don't have no business 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.320 being talked about online. Um, and and somebody go wind 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.760 up getting hurt. Man. What I want to do is 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.000 kind of go back, man, to your origins for our 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:25.720 people to be out here on the West coast. Man, 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:30.280 I'm pretty sure you have a healthy audience out here man. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:31.920 You know, And first off, like I said, I know, 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.720 you know it's early over there, so you know getting 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:39.480 up and getting your day started early. Uh, especially when 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.240 it's like later in the day over here. You know, 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.400 it's it's it's the work you put in, right, you 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:46.880 know what I mean. I want to say this before 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.920 we go into your question. Even like your co hosts, 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.920 even like people, people focus on podcast too much. What 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.080 I mean by that is like who's the guest? Right, 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.280 tend to guests help you. But it's not about only 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.240 who the guest is on your podcast. It's a guest 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.640 who's in your fucking circle. So your co host come 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.280 on here and they may connect with me. Next thing, 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:08.760 you know, I may do something for them that they 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.880 can't do for themselves. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.440 not about having premium on your podcast. I mean, for 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.920 whatever it's worth, there's so many names you can have. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.040 Will it help or will it look good? Yeah? I 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.039 think that's a good thing, just like how I would 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.160 decipher who will look good on my list of people. Right. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.520 The point I'm trying to make is for me, it's 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.640 always been building and I don't mean that in a 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.520 corny way, like Yo, it was build, like you know 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:33.880 what I mean, because people would just say, like, Yo, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.840 let's get it's like a rapid She like, Yo, it's built. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.599 They don't build. But I'm talking about really just like connectingly. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.560 You know what. I like that dude's energy, or I 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.440 like that dude stata and you stay in touch. I mean, look, 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.840 even with Combat Jack show, you're thinking about it. Some 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.599 people we had on one time. You know what I'm saying, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.839 Like I still talk to it to this day, you 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.720 know what I mean, Like it's like to have that relationship. 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.480 You know, That's why I think people sometimes they're too 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:03.800 worried about numbers. They want to tell stories that shouldn't 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.040 be told. Even in an Italian community, guys like, Yo, 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:07.560 you want to talk about the murder we did? What 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.920 the fund? You do? You know what I'm saying. It's 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.080 like it's like, you know, I don't know. I'll never 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.119 understand that. And I'll tell you one thing. People always 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.080 say that you can smack someone on the internet gets 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.919 sive million views, You're gonna help somebody get one million views. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.159 At the end of the day, how do you sleep 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.039 at night? That's how I look at it. How do 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.599 you sleep at night and straight up without even you know, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.919 let you you know you take the show more than 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:35.040 you know and we conversate. But it's big en than podcasting. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.679 People want to build a store. You don't even understand 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:43.280 podcast Open up doors? Right, having a platform, open up doors. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.479 Having a platform travels you around the world. Having a 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.640 platform gets you in contact with me. Right, having a 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.520 platform gets me in contact with you. You know what 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.599 I'm saying, Like it's like and I think that's the 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.920 ultimate thing. You know, I'm not. I was never and 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.160 I'm gonna say this, you know from my heart, I 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.480 was never in a number chasing game. Well you came 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.000 forward to be you know before I my question I 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.120 had because you don't took me to a whole different place. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.680 It should never be about numbers. It should never be 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.080 about money. And I'm gonna I'm kicks you up on 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.520 that because we all have to make a living, right, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.119 But you shouldn't be willing to run down the street 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.320 naked for a few dollars. That's what I'm saying. Now, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.920 you know what I want to just correctly it. Let's 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.880 say let's not say it shouldn't be about about money 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.799 because creators should always get money for what they do. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.239 And I'm a big supporter of creatives. Fuck a fucking 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.119 podcast type of style. You know, I'll be around moving 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.559 with fucking movie stars, different people. I see podcasts people 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.279 like they're kind of like, you know, I'm not in 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.240 any podcast. Be for understand, I'm living my life, you 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.800 know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not trying to get numbers. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.279 I'm not trying to get this guest first. I'm not 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.160 trying to get this guest to say some ship that 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.679 he don't want to say so I get more numbers. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.400 Like you know, you know how many times like people 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.440 would would reach out over the years and say, like yo, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.559 could we get yeah because we don't wanna. Sometimes people 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.520 say things and it's not you don't want to try 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.120 to like got you? You know what I mean? Like 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:16.400 what are we doing? You know what I'm saying. And 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.720 I think that building relationships is more powerful than building 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:26.160 a one time viour video or a tribe is for you? 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.880 And I think, you know, longevity is always to play. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.720 You know, we always talk about everybody. Look at the 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.119 end of the day, you know, uh, I would always 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.440 suggest creators to continue to create, but at what expense? 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.720 You know what I'm saying? What defense like meaning like 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.400 you know you want to do what you love. I 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.280 think you know you continue to find that and I 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:48.960 tell people just like at the end of the day, 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:50.800 and well, you know we you know, I don't know 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.320 how old you are, but but I'm glad that you 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.920 live that. Oh mantle man, I'm fifty. I'm fifty and 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.800 proud though there we go. I don't want I want 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:03.120 to say because I want to make seven. Now I 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.120 want to say this. I tell my daughter. I tell 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.320 my daughter all the time. I might yo, I'm gonna 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.160 do something for you, and that is give you a 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.240 chance to figure out what you want to do in 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.960 life or else you're gonna do what you have to 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.080 do in life. You know what I'm saying. Like we didn't. 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.200 I wasn't afforded that opportunity, you know what I mean, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.680 And neither I'm sure neither will you. So the point 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.320 I'm making is now you have So I want to 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:29.800 go back to what you're saying about like you should 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:33.120 never be about everyone should have a chance to make money, 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.480 help each other out. Look, what I'm saying is a 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.560 lot of people don't do that, and I get it, 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.480 you know what I'm saying, But the podcast games should 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:46.040 really just be about bringing people together, bringing brotherhood. I mean, listen, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.719 not many podcasts I got upther guests for you know 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.200 what I'm saying. People ask me like, yo, what could you? Yeah, Like, 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.240 I'm not. If I funk with a person, I want 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.880 to try to help them elevate. Why because they were 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.079 on the premium Peach Show and then they go, But 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.720 here is that gonna hurt me? Now I'm helping out 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.640 my man who's an artist who I think should have 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:09.000 more exposure or should be on this thing, or I 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.480 like a show that I see is pushing and don't 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.679 want to help out. I never, you know, I never. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.439 I've never been that way, you know, especially after all 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.679 these years being behind the scenes to you know, networks 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.959 and you know, putting things together and stuff like that. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.600 It's it's just, you know, you have to think of 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.040 it as like a whole you know what I'm saying 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.800 that as a community, and I think, like, you know, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.040 that's the thing. You know that that that really, I 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.679 would say, is like uplifting each other. You know what 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.320 I mean. It's the same thing like the street in 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.199 the sense of you know, look, I grew up in 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.839 a neighborhood. Kids usually have sneakers. They wear them three 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.920 time to throw them into garbage. I'm like, what the 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.400 fund you draw him in the garbage for. They're like, yo, 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.040 I don't want to give me anybody. Nobody gave me 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:52.000 any I'm like, yo, my man, listen to me. So 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.880 changing that is what I would love to see more 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.600 and more. Now, who could get the well, who could 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.160 get the biggest guess is always fun. I remember one 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.960 combat and all of us and the whole team, like 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.679 I feel like we had our finger on the post, 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.320 like we never told you who we were getting, and 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.160 it was like, oh man, that's right on time, or 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.440 oh man, I haven't heard from him, oh man? And 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.959 and and seeing that also you know, for drink Champs 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.439 and rap Radar and and Joe. But I got NBA loved, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.600 like you know what I mean, Like I love seeing 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.760 them get these big guests and getting notified and get 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.000 and get um, you know, and and make a living 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.360 for themselves right and change their life and change their 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.280 kids life. Like that's powerful, you know, So sure. Yeah, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.920 and you know, let me leaning back on this. Man, 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.319 you came in the podcast game early. Yeah, I'm talking 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.440 about me and I remember it was the time because 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:51.280 we were like inspired by Loud Speaker Yep, yep. You know, 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.840 me and my manage a rapper last moment. You know, 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.560 I just don't manage him. He's like one of my 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.760 best friends. He's like family, you know. So he has 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.400 a very big person now, sort of like yourself, right, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.000 And I said, dude, you need to be doing a podcast. Man, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.520 you got an opinion on everything from the universe to politics, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.520 you know, so you need to do this. And um, 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.640 he said, Man, nobody goes sit around and listen to 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.040 nobody talked for an hour. I said, dude, it's these 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.520 cats out of New York. I was rocking. I've been 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.320 rocking with you since you room Combat Jack Show resupes. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.600 That was early. At that time, there weren't too many 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:30.280 podcasts you could actually go and kind of everything you 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:34.120 landed on was pretty good because listening to Compact Jack 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.439 show laid me gonna go listen to this show that 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.320 was on loud Speakers, this show and there was a 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.360 common theme and I finally heard somebody that connected to me. 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.520 It wasn't just a bunch of people and they're talking 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.400 about stuff that didn't interest me. Stuff didn't interest me. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.959 But culturally, I said, man, you know what, they got 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.200 the culture right here. Man, they represent Hi pop culture, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:55.440 you know what I mean. And I thought it was 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.800 cool that they had people from diverse backgrounds over there. 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:03.920 Just wasn't a bunch of brothers talking withoutan And uh, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.440 I heard all these other things, and I said, if 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.960 making y'all New York kids are already off the hook, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.199 you'all already telling like it is because we've lived in 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.839 society right now, man, where people tell people what they 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.640 want to hear instead of telling the truth. Yeah, but 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.520 you know, actually, you know, going back to rocking the boat, 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.640 and uh, I will say this, going back to rocking 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.040 the boat. It's a scary thing because I feel like, 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:29.640 you know, I have a lot of friends who are 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.880 very talented, but they don't rock the boat. And what 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.080 I mean by that is like, you know, you get 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:40.840 somebody that you do work with, I'm saying, and y'all 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.360 don't talk about money, and they're like, well, I'm sure 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.199 we'll figure it out. And then you got a person 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.640 like me, well, what's the figure out? Like why don't 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.000 you talk about like some of the plans you have, 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:52.800 or some of the rates you have, or some of 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.720 the things you know, I don't want to like, you know, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.400 we'll go easy and sometimes people don't say nothing and 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.600 stay cool. And then you get a guy like me like, yo, 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.680 are we gonna talk about money? Oh? You're hungry for money? 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.520 And then it's like and then it don't work. And 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.959 then the person who doesn't rock the boat is still 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:17.240 moving along with this person. But what really no substance? 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.560 And I sometimes for a while, we'll look at myself like, 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.720 damn man, maybe I'm too aggressive, or maybe I'm too 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.160 passionate or maybe But then I said to myself, yo, 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.120 you know and and and that's the thing, like asked, like, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.280 I feel like if you're around the good circle of people, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.160 trusting other people's opinion, like of what they see, like, 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.800 oh you think I'm out of pocket? You know? Um? 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.840 Because I'll be honest with you. In business, I feel 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.840 like people will run over you. You know what I'm saying. Like, 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.679 and if you're like a person who don't want to 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.720 rock the boat, and you know, you're too scared to 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.160 blow them out of the water, or too scared too 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.240 uh you know, a short change yourself. As far as 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.520 dealing with contracts and stuff like that, I feel like 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.240 you'll never you'll you'll you'll never make progress. You for 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:07.360 sure wanting this business man, because I've been the music 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.760 businessman for the last twenty five years and publishing music 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:16.040 publishing and management. And if you don't open your mouth, man, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.120 I'm scared to rock the proverbial boat. You can be 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.120 out your ass out man, I'll tell you a story 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.600 because the ship is kind of crept in the podcast 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.240 And I remember podcasting used to be a tight look community. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.080 You never heard about dudes getting ads and running off 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.680 with the money. You just never heard about all the 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.800 fun ship. Right. So when we first got in the game, man, 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.880 we had a pretty um we started making a little 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.080 bit of noise, right, So we started getting different people 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.640 outing at us, and um, we didn't have a bunch 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.320 of podcast networks out here. Podcasting is very much an 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.920 East Coast thing, you know what I mean. There were 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.920 people producing podcasts out here, but not really in the 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.800 urban genre. You had guys had YouTube channels up for 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.280 the hundred times you having the show on YouTube channel. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:00.840 If you don't have no audio, you ain't got a 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.160 damn podcast. Yeah, I mean, let me just say this 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.920 real quick. Don't lose your chain and thought. I remember years, 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.920 for years we were on PNC Radio, so we were 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.200 like an online show to combat Jack Show. And uh, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.400 I mean people saying, well, when you become a podcast, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.040 and that's why it's kind of late. Like sometimes I 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.320 have us that we're a podcast, like two thousand, twelve 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:21.120 or thirteen. The reason why is because how do you 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.320 make a podcast? Right? This is something that we were 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:28.240 saying thirteen years ago. Just put it on iTunes. We 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.160 were online show for all those years, you know what 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.960 I'm saying, So we didn't even know, like so now 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.240 you know it elevating. You know, I was talking about 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.040 this with someone the other day. You know, podcast plus 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.600 all these like little set up shows that have chairs 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:45.240 and bricks and Mike's and it looks like a nice thing. 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.920 That's that's like the new podcast plus. But YouTube, you 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.000 know everybody talks about YouTube. But man, I'll tell you man, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.200 I mean, I'm not giving all the secrets around anymore, 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:59.560 but all the money in on YouTube and the brand 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.520 we may like to be actually premium. We've done extremely 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:08.200 well with audio. Yeah, most people love the way they look. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.480 I deal with people. I deal with people, you know, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.600 in different networks. Off of them, shows do shows, produced, 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.600 shows created shows. A lot of people, some of them. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.000 The audio be a nice bag, and people are like, 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.640 I need fifty and fixed my teeth, and I'm like, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.800 it's not video, so audio you can make a nice bag. 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.600 We can go to video in the future. But now 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.480 it's just audio, you know, And people like, okay, so 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:39.320 go make less money and and worry about you looking 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.440 good instead of you being good. You know. At the 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.160 end of the day, funk A podcast suck anything. How 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:49.800 do you make a living doing what you want? Right now? 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:54.600 It's so easy to become popular, but broke right because 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.240 people don't People don't know how to set up a 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:01.560 system to make money right. And here's the biggest problem 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.240 I think, and like I said, you know, is that 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.680 it's not only within the podcast. It's people don't open 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.280 their mind and make money because of their podcasts. And 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.000 that's like another thing, you know what I'm saying. I mean, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.760 don't get me wrong. You can make good money doing 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.080 your podcast obviously is people know networks, etcetera, etcetera. But 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.480 what I'm saying is it's not gonna happen to everybody, 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.720 and there's other ways and avenues around it to get there, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.200 and people need that patience. I have people listen during 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.439 the pandemic, even I had so many even now I 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.520 have so many people call me, I want to start 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:39.400 a podcast, soever anybody. Two weeks later they're like, oh, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.919 we're not doing the numbers that this one's who the 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:46.760 fuck you just started? And you know what, they gage 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:51.240 those members from YouTube. Yeah, I think what it happened 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.199 is Man and I had this before I got to Homeboys. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.679 I won't make their name. They're two pretty prominent, you know, rapidly, 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.960 got a lot of history, especially on the West Coast. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:06.040 So they started podcast. Man, the episodes are doing better online. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.920 They're performing better on YouTube than they are in the audio. 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.879 And my suggestion to them was this for the first 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.720 ten episodes, let's not do video. Let's just go in 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.560 and perfect getting your podcast chops down. But no, they 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.960 want to go out and spend all this money on 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.240 this big studio man and and this and that, and 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.640 they did, and they weren't getting the results that they wanted. 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:33.320 They weren't happy because when I tell you the second episode, man, 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.680 that we have we book any reads? You have any 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.160 reads for us? That we have any sponsorships? I said, dude, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:40.800 what am I going to go in and talk to 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:45.480 a potential sponsor about? Or I have this great new 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.200 show that's hosted by two rappers. And it's like, dude, yeah, 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.520 so do with thout another? Motherfuckers? Move on there. No, 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.119 it's like one thing I'm confused about and this is 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.920 no shots, and I think people need to open their 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.600 mind more. One thing I'm confused. I get people that 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:05.040 have called me okay, I've been like, yo, Pete, I 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.200 want to start a podcast. Okay, I want to start 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.920 a podcast like, you know, like really covering hip hop, 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.520 like and like you know, covering like you know, like 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.000 going behind the scenes of hip hop. Like I don't 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.680 really see people doing that in my mind of my 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:25.040 where have you been looking? Like? Here's the thing, Like, 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:26.920 you know, if you're trying to get into a genre 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:31.280 that has already saturated, do something different, but also put 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.080 your spin on it. You know what I'm saying. You 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.480 can always stay in hip hop or whatever you love honey, 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.359 cultural stuff, but put your spin on it. You know, 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.240 we look we look too much to people's public highlight reel. 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.360 And when try to emulate that ship like like, come 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:49.480 on man, you know, and duplicate, replicate all things. I 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.000 tell you, it's some funny ship. We when we first 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.520 jumped off with the Gangster Chronicles, it was different because 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.480 we have a lot of street cats, So I'm talking 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.720 about real brownie street cats. We may be talking to 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:01.960 a had they just got a prison a week ago, 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.960 you know. But it's not to glorify the life or 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:06.959 anything like that. Is to give these keys out here 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.080 a message to let them know the repercussions are real 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.800 to anything that you do do. But I had a 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:14.720 guy tell me one time, good friend of mine, he 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.040 was on the show, and I was like, well man, 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:17.960 what made you decide to go on in the podcasting? 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.480 Well man, I just saw what y'all was doing and 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.600 just did the same thing. And like you said, damn. 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:26.919 I remember at the time, man, especially me coming from 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.560 the hip hop culture. Man and Biding wouldn't tolerate it. 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.080 Now you would have a guy see guys with a 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.439 bunch of beer bottles and ship in the table they 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.360 call it. You might as well be drinking champion. I'm 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.480 sure they influenced. They influenced the whole, a whole. You 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:43.760 know a bunch of people as well, and you know 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:47.399 a lot of people. You know. That's the thing. Like 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.200 you'd be surprised at how far your voice could travel, man, 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:51.919 you know what I mean. It's like even when you 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:55.080 talk about dudes coming home, Man, there's so much opportunity 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.520 out there. Man, you know, listen, I'm home. I don't 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.720 even know. Maybe eighteen years, nineteen years, I went to 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.800 wait for a couple of years. I never went back, 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:06.040 you know what I mean. I've been I've been to 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:10.080 many jails to speak to to really you know, first 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.760 of all, anyone listened to this has been away or 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.080 is in the street or whatever. Let me explain something 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:20.120 to you. In this day and age, there's no reason 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.600 to be doing anything illegal, no reason. And I'm gonna 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.840 tell you why. There's so many opportunities to make money. 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.560 The only opportunities that we weren't afforded when I was young. 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:32.199 When I was young, I had a paper route and 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.720 I bed groceries and wall bombs. It was a grocery 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.359 store straight up and down. You could have got a 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:39.320 regular job. I was young at the time. If I 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.840 wanted to get things nice, I have to sell drugs 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.640 or do something illegal. Straight the funk up. Okay, that's 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.119 what it what it was. Now, I'm not saying you 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:50.280 had to I'm saying in order to achieve that at 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.720 a young age, because the neighborhood showed me glittering gold 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.400 at twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, so I was like, oh 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.720 my god, I want these things. Now that's a bad 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.479 la I made. But the point I'm trying to make 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.280 is in this day and age, these kids do not 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.000 have to do that. You go to Target and sell 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.919 the stuff on Amazon, you will get sneakers selling for 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.560 two times the amount, even if you're with them. Okay, 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:15.480 you can start a podcast, you could, you know, you could, 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.520 you could do a YouTube show. You could. You know 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.000 what I mean? You could. You can start a business, 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:22.120 you could, you know, you can start a product. There's 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.520 so many yeah, yeah, yeah, there's so many things that 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.840 could be done. And I and and and and here's 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.359 the thing. I'm not just saying that ship it's real 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.040 and you don't have to give you a life away 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:34.600 you know, we come from a time where people but 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.000 how won't you been away? Asks a skid bid? You 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.080 know you did three years, I did twenty. Listen to 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:43.080 me one hour of giving the system your time is 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.919 not worth it. What's there food? And food is not 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:49.600 better than is outside. Woman ain't better. I don't see 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.199 any you know what I'm saying. Now, you know, and 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:56.920 this is one thing we always talked about. Now, when 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:00.479 you came up in jail, you come, you come out, 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.840 You come back out in the free world. Right, you 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.159 don't feel out? A job application heads down there? Have 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.920 you ever been arrested for a feeling? Yes, you mark 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.439 that down. In some cases I had homeboys that wouldn't 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:16.080 mark it down only because they knew later I get 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.080 me a check from here. You know, by the time 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:19.960 they find out, I get it check. And sometimes they 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.080 may not find though they may not check it. But 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:23.960 more often than not, they come pull them off the 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:25.879 line and say, hey, man, be sorry, I gotta let 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.480 you go. You lack the application. You gotta felony. So 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.280 you get a guy like that man. Then some cases 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.480 they may have family of people that they're trying to 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:37.120 contribute to a household they're trying to integrate themselves in society, 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.840 but they keep cats getting doors slammed in their face. Right, 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.480 So this cat that can't come out and get a job, 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.720 he's getting smacked around by the world. He's gonna go 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.439 back to what he knows best. Absolutely absolutely gotta be 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:54.760 able to pay. He has to eat. Listen. I came home. 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:59.560 I came on with about thirty one dudes into the city, um, 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.920 which we parole too. So I've seen these dudes every 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:07.480 week I went to parole, and every week we lost somebody. 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:09.760 I was in the elevator with cats. I was away 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.240 with it, like, Yo, I can't find a job. I'm 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.520 going I'm I'm I'm going back to the street. We 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:15.199 go sit in the pro office next to you know, 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:16.680 they lock him up. I'm like, what the funk have 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.040 we got? Dirty yard? Right? Well, he got arrested and 0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:23.720 didn't say nothing, right you know, or just gave up. Yo. 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.000 Everyone that I went away with went back except for me. 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.479 Right now. Yeah, that's a very big busting. But I 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.879 also I'm not gonna sit here and act like I 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.399 didn't put in the work. What I mean by that 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:37.680 is I bought like a hundred DVDs at that time, 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:42.000 and I stayed home. Okay, curfew came nine o'clock, they 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.960 came to my door. A lot of kids would they 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:45.800 would leave, They get dressed to go outside. The pro 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:50.080 office is waiting outside bomb. I didn't do that, you 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.240 know what I'm saying. I had my patience and I 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.760 stood my time. But I sit here and I say, like, 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.240 I remember how tough it was, you know what I mean. 0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.680 Like I remember like filling out job application, you know 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.720 what I mean. I remember, like, you know, being turned down. 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.560 And I remember, like literally my cousin. When I came home, 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.560 I couldn't find a job. My cousin got me a 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.399 job working carpet cleaning. I had the machine and like 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.359 fucking moving, it's moving around. I don't even know what 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.639 the funk I'm doing. I was ready to give up 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.760 many times. But that was almost twenty years ago. I'll 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.160 be in London next week, right in the show. Yeah 0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.159 it was right there, things a real man. The problem 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:30.919 with today, though, Pete, is people don't have patience. Everybody 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.399 wants it now, and they feel like they're entitled to 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.399 get it now. Because I'll see a lot of cats 0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.120 jump in the game. Man. And they may come from 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.560 the music industry, right, Man, ain't enough When we gonna 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.560 start getting paid? Man? When is this one? Is that 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.000 nobody wants to put it in the work first. Everybody 0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.480 wants to get paid first for work that they haven't 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.159 done yet. Sure, sure, sure it's tough. Man. Now let 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.600 me actually something Gangster chronicles, now, where is it? Using 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.280 the shot just like remote all three? Like you know 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.720 from the during in the pandemic. Man, we started doing 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.720 some remote stuff. We actually have um, we actually have 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.120 our own studio. I have a network myself on digital 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.520 soapbox medium. Yeah, I see, I remember, I remember me 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:12.320 telling me about it a long time ago. Yeah, a 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.040 long time ago. Man. And here we are now we 0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.720 got our own building and stuff. Mant people that actually, 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.439 you know, work for us, which is a blessing. You're 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.480 able to help out some friends instead of giving them 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.359 something that you say, Hey, man, that's your job. You 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.240 need to art you this, you know. So it's a 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.960 beautiful thing. Man. It took us a while, though, Man, 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.800 took us a while. I tell people it takes time, right, 0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.400 it takes time. Man, It still takes time. I could say. Man, 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.080 we've been doing this show. I think we've coming up 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:42.879 on our fourth year UM in a few weeks. Right, congratulations, 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.160 thanks man. But when I tell you, the first six 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.320 months of doing the show, we saw a YouTube money, 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.520 but we didn't have no ad revenue because we've had 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.439 people that kept telling us. You gotta remember at that time, Pete, 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:57.840 they were telling people that black people won't listen to podcasts, 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.880 the standing people won't listen to pod cast the exactly 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.199 like we just all a monolift, you know what I mean, 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:04.840 We just all do the same stuff and just walk 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:10.840 straight aga. But as our numbers estivated, because they kept 0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:12.959 moving the goal post back on us. You know, they 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.960 would say, well, man, you know at that time, you 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.280 can get ten to fifteen thousand. It was a week 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.200 and then it was pretty good. You know. I was like, okay, 0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.960 this is good. That was back then, and they would say, well, no, 0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.720 you need to be at twenty. You know, we get 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.720 then we started getting the thirties. Then it count. You know, 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.199 like you said, I started calling they're bullshit because we 0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.159 were using the um CBS building at the time. We 0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.360 just played out in I think it's intercom now, right. 0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.320 We were using those that thing. They gave us a 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.720 situation where you could record and we're gonna sell ads 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.120 for you. But I noticed that every time we got 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.480 the sheet that kind of show how everybody was performing 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:57.040 on intercom, I would always see us ahead of certain people, 0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.200 but these people below us were getting reads and they 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.480 were always like, oh, you're an established show where they're 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.800 a radio holes and this and that, And I started 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.080 calling bullshit because the girl eventually told me, well, I 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.040 don't think people are going to buy into a show 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.600 called Against the Chronicles. I said, oh, they won't, but 0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.480 they were buying to a show girls would love to 0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:20.159 ecock you know what. You know they're buying that, but 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.439 they won't. I was gonna tell you, man, because me 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.040 and you got a mutual um. I won't say enemy man. 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.480 We both got a cat oh with some bread man um. 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.200 And that's what I was going into before the game 0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:33.000 got sucked up. So I had these cats hit me up. 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.960 Man from a company called him a layer, when that 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.920 was the most professional fucking setup of heels like I 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.800 was working on. Now. I know how you know, Chris, 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.400 I remember I was, I was, I was hot, you 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.680 know Christman before that. But but I remember I remember 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:52.320 he brought me the deal and I was hot. Oh man, 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.080 he had me hot because just imagine I have a 0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:58.040 network of shows, right, so when they hit me up, man, 0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.040 they hit me up about the games, the chronicles. But 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.280 I always believe in presenting the old, like, hey, these 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.080 people may be willing to do this. I got five 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.680 other podcasts too, you know. So I walk into this 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.360 setup and I'm gonna tell you, initially it was the beautiful, 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.600 most beautiful ship ever. Bro. So I'm driving up an 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.000 on Beverly Hills, right, and I put up to the 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:17.960 crib and I said, but it's not a studio, you know, 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.680 this is the house. So I walk in. Man, they 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.080 got people in there working and stuff, man. And it's like, 0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.440 I'm like, okay, we made it, man. And so they 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.240 had me come in and sit on. You want something 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:29.920 to drink? And I'm like, they got a maid and 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:31.680 their man. They bring you a plate of food. I'm like, 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.760 oh my god, man, we've made me and my boys 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.720 slapped hands man like this. It was like, it's only craging. 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.240 So it did started off good for the first two 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.840 months because him Alaya was a professional organization. But the 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.080 other motherfucker I won't mention his name because I don't 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:50.440 do the online cat fight. He was a piece of ship, 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.920 but he was running everything. So he was the nicest 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:54.520 guy in the world at first, right, but he was 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:58.200 working for somebody else. So we had an event there 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.800 one night. Man, the things started went around the kind 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.720 of party. Hey, they're changing the name of the company 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:08.240 to Notorious, and it's like Notorious. Um. Then my phone 0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.640 goes off. I get an email is from the guy 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.360 from Japan. He's telling us we fired Peter Vincer. So 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.360 anybody that's you know, signed, you know, had the deal, 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.920 contact us and we get you set up with alternative 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.240 recording solutions until we figure out the situation. Because you 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.720 have to remember he was the president of the company, right, 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.720 He was the president of the company. Um, he's got 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.360 he hired to facilitate everything and opened up everything in America. 0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.200 So the house was in his name, all the hundreds 0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.760 of thousands and they spent on equipment was in his name. Right, 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.880 So he pretty much just hijacked the whole motherfucking company. 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.240 So I'm like, man, you know what. He talks to 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.920 me about it that next Monday, and I'm like, dude, 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.080 this is not what I signed up before. What's going 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.800 to change? And then I started knowing, noticing the people 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.440 that they had to the quality of people. The quality 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.240 people started walking out the door. Now there were a 0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.840 lot of good quality people left. But the reason why 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.920 I came. They had this guy. There was none booking 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.000 a lot of stuff. They had this person there was 0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.560 a hell of a publicist. And I knew these people, right, 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.080 I knew their reputations. So I was like, dog, it 0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.560 seemed like your team walking out the door. Now, to 0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.840 keep in mind, there were some very great people, people 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.840 I still deal with to this day. They were still there. 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:22.600 So we're booking reads, right, We stayed booking reads. And 0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.640 so when you have people that trust you and that 0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.400 that means me. They didn't sign a deal with them, 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:30.520 They signed a deal with me. So I'm responsible for 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:34.200 everything ultimately. So people are booking stuff and they come 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:35.960 and ask me, and they're nice about it. To cool, 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.840 They're like, still, you know, man, I know this. It's 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.440 been like forty five days on this one. I did 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.320 thirty days, you know, forty five days, going supposed to 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.840 get paid them thirty you know. And so I went 0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.160 to Peter and I was like, dude, what's happening with 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.200 the prayer? Oh, man, we don't have an E I 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.200 N number in the bankers that you know they want. 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.640 I said, dude, while been waiting on the E I 0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.000 A N number I called, the people didn't custom out, man, 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.080 I said, man, come on and cut the bullshit. Man, 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.080 you're not talking to boot with the food. I said, 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:04.800 it take two minutes to get the E I in. Bro, 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.120 I can do it for you right now. If it's not, 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:08.720 if it's not five o'clock, it I can get it 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.920 for you right now. So he kind of looked at 0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:15.400 me and said, man, listen, I have that money here. 0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.320 I'm gonna meet you tomorrow. I'm gonna give you time 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:18.920 to get up and go to the bank and get 0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.040 your stuff together. I'll be here at one o'clock. I 0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.400 need the money for this show, that show on this show, 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.280 because I've got people calling me and and I can't 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.040 get mad about that because people they've done the work, 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:33.600 and they had families work. They don't know that. So 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.440 keep in mind with a lot of those deals, I 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.400 paid for them myself because I was just like, you 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.800 know what, I know you need the money for whatever boom, 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.400 here you go. That's my job to go collect. So 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.400 I go up there the next day. Man, when I 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:50.560 tell you he's in there with his shirt off, you know, 0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:52.960 smoking weed. And I'm like, so it's turned from a 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.360 professional space and now you look like a frat house. 0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.400 You got dudes jumping off the roof into the pool 0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.000 and ship man, and I'll bring it through. That's a promise. 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:01.960 The past three and one day to record, I'm like, man, 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.640 what the hell that is going on? And freaking the marijuana? 0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.200 It's all listen, I don't got a problem, but nobody's 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.480 get down kneels. But that should be. We're in a 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:13.440 professional environment. You can't walk through the heart building just 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.240 you know, blowing the joint, you know what I mean, 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:19.320 blowing a blunt. So I go in there man, and um, 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.480 I say, you know, registrate me out. Oh man, you 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.560 know what I was thinking? This motherfucker pull like two 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.640 pounds of weed from U under the table, like man, 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:30.640 you know, you know, shoot this to the homies dead 0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.680 Like I'm like, man, what the funk? First of all, 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.880 that's the most disrespectful thing ever. You think is we 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.480 some brothers? You just give us some weed and we 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:39.840 go going about about our business, just go to back 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.080 and starts stuff like, Man, come on, man, I can't 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.280 take no bills with that. Man. So it started getting 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.760 a little real. I won't go into what happened next, man, 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.440 But he didn't give a fuck man because he was 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:55.880 too far gone. And we've seen the um evolution of 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.520 the game for the better in certain ways. Man, Brothers 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.320 like you or all, they're one of amazing things. Man, 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:06.400 you went from being a feeling up road feeling jumping 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.320 on the podcast. No, how did you make that transition? 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.080 What makes you just you know? How did you want 0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:16.320 up on a podcast? Combat Jack? Sure? You mean the 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.959 good brother? Dallas penn Um. About two thousand and ten, 0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.759 I had a site I launched called Sneaker two, and 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:26.480 I had it up for like four or five years. 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:30.160 It was a community of like sneaker lovers, and you 0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.719 know it was it was well like if you know 0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:34.480 you you knew about it back then, you talked to it. 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.600 It was just like a site where you could view 0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:40.080 videos about different people and different sneakers and different things. 0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.560 I wanted to make something because YouTube you put a 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.880 black cat Jordan three, you're gonna get a black cat, 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:46.880 you know what I mean. So I wanted to like 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:50.040 kind of you know, do that anyway Dallas is being 0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.320 a sneaker lover and someone who was a fan of 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.960 of creating it. You know, it kind of was like, YO, 0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.719 come up here and talk about you know, talk about 0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.600 what you just launched. And I went on there. You 0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.000 know I've said this before publicly, but I went on there, 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.319 you know, and I never left, you know what I mean? 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.360 And um, you know, we became you know me and 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.400 that was already cool and um, you know me and 0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.319 combat we started till like you know, he was like, yo, 0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.680 come back next week. I was, I had snacks. I 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.080 was like, you know, this ship was like uh an 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.640 after school program to me, you know what I mean, 0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:24.880 Like it was Joe, you know, I was at middle 0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.440 aged man, you know who feel like I found like 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.879 a brotherhood. Um, like a community of people who love 0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:35.720 hip hop, who who are parents, who who had trials 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:39.120 and tribulations. Uh. Some people were better than others. Uh, 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.160 some people were in better shape than others. But it 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.319 was a bond and I felt that from day one. 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.400 And I would come you know, comment was they come 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.520 back next week, you know, And I would just come 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.640 and bring a six pack of beer or chips and 0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:57.160 you know whatever, like like you know, I kind of 0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.360 just mingle and then hang out like yo, this is 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.799 and then and then eventually, you know, I made my 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.560 way onto the mic and you know it was history 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:09.239 since then and and you know, just to be part 0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.720 of that spaceship. Um for me to have a hand 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.360 or to have a voice and something that listen to me. 0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.719 Let me tell you, man, wherever I go, people will 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.279 stop me or say something to me or want to 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:22.960 meet up with me if they see something that I'm 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.960 out there on a social if I'm writing like yo, 0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.160 I'm in Chicago with him wherever I go. I mean this, 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:32.400 over the years, it's crazy of how much kind of 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.520 love that is for combat out there, you know, um, 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.880 and what and and and and what transpired and what 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.640 influenced different people. Um, so it's special to see and 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.440 especial you know. Well you know, I cry, man because 0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.160 the thing about podcasts, and I tell people all of 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:52.120 you with special because two podcasts and I felt like 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.640 I knew you guys. Yeah you know what I mean. 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.319 I feel like when Jack Dad, even though I didn't 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.120 know him from Adam, you know what, and that, and 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.960 I'm amazing sometimes that me and Chris Morrow are actually friends. 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.279 He's a mentor to men. He's been a mentor and 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.600 a good friend for the past three years. You know. Um, 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.640 I cried because it was kind of like, damn, man, 0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:12.719 come back Jack. You know. I used to get these 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:14.200 are birds and he used to look forward to it, 0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:17.279 you know. And then you started seeing change, like loud 0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.799 speakers was the first for everything, especially in urban space. 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.920 I'll tell people, if you say otherwise, you're friend, use 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.879 day flowers. Give them their roses right now. And then 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.799 they came with tax season. Now, when tax season came, 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.719 I knew. I said, Man, if this dude can stay 0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.200 out of trouble man, because you just tell you know 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:36.880 what I mean, you can just kind of tell listen 0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.000 to him iself. Oh man, this brother is a real one. 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.439 You know. He's really seemed like he with the ship. Right. 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.719 So I saw people like this and I said, man, 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:49.440 it's not the traditional They didn't have traditional podcast, so 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.440 so all the shows were new and unique, and I 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.440 thought it was dope as helle. So you transition from there, 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:58.720 man started to freeing them peace show man, Um and 0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:00.839 when you did. Of course, I started rocking with you too, 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.880 said okay, this is this is dope. So you started 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:06.840 your own thing, man, how long did it take you, 0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.480 man to really start putting the in the game of 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:14.920 what you started eating? Well, you know, that's a great question. 0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.280 I've been I've been blessed. You know, I've been blessed, 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.759 you know, through the years of Combat Jack. Sure, I 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.360 have a built in audience. Um, So I hit the 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.160 ground running, you know what I mean, And and and 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.200 I just took a lot of what me and Combat 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.160 wanted to do and and put it today. I was 0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.000 telling this to Funny Funny talk about Chris. I was 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:38.640 telling this to Chris yesterday. You know. Um, when I 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.120 moved on and started my own show, I just wanted 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.920 to continue doing what I love, you know. Um, you know, 0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.000 and I'm glad because when you look back at it, 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.640 it's like Combat gave me a chance, even unbeknownst to him, 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.880 to kind of set my shop up, you know what 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.720 I mean, to kind of spread my wings right, and 0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.680 you know, I want to diversify and be honest, it 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.680 was a lot of a lot of pressure, a lot 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.360 of pressure on me because you know, a lot of 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.560 people would say, yo, premium Pete. You know, keep in mind, 0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:11.120 back down on Combat J actually was a little bit 0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:14.680 more wilder. I'm not like that anymore, just because I 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.440 just don't, you know, I just don't like to. I 0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:19.400 like to be careful of what I say, and I 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.400 like to be mindful of what I say. And also, 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.880 you know, look, I have a lot of great sponsors, 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.799 and and and and you have to be represented well, right, 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.520 you know what I mean. I'm not saying they I'm 0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.520 not saying they control me. But what I'm saying is 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.439 I'm not out here trying to make them look bad 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:40.880 for no reason, right reviews or for anything. Um because again, 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:42.960 it is a business, right, and you build it to 0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.080 be a business. But but you know, I wanted to. 0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.000 I wanted to, you know, I hit the groundward. I 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.839 just wanted to diversify. And you know, sometimes, you know, 0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.480 not saying overall, but I've heard people say, oh, premium Pete. 0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.640 You know, he said a couple of words on Combat Jack. 0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:58.959 Some days he would say a lot something. I said 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.000 that because I didn't have to just like, yo, what's up, 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.400 it's premium Pete. I'm here. No, I was for the 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.919 betterment of the Combat Jack Show. That's why that show 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.800 did good, because people took a bullet for the Combat 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.239 Jack Show. It wasn't like, Yo, I'm premium pete. Yo 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:15.520 I'm It's like, yo, we're here for the Combat Jack 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.759 Show three four in the morning with Chuck d You 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.280 know what I'm saying. Driving everybody home, I lived ninety 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.279 two miles from the studio. I drove everybody home and 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.960 then drove home. I didn't get money. I didn't get 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.840 gas money. You know what I'm saying. Man. You know, 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:32.719 if people don't know how much you sacrifice. I mean, 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.319 I'm sitting on the Combat Jack Show like a couple 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.480 of hundred hours in my bank account, you know what 0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.160 I mean. Just just he's always been a friend, he's 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.960 my co host. He's coming in with a helicopter, you 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.160 know what I mean. It's like like I'm ready to 0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.640 get a fucking overdraft feet. You know what I'm saying. 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:50.960 You know, I'm working a regular job at the time 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.520 to at night, trying to maintain trying to figure it out. 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:56.120 I tell people all the time, I was working a 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.839 bread route. I'm a big daddy came. Big Daddy came 0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:00.879 like Yo, take my number, you know, blah blah blah. 0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:02.560 We would cook it up. You know, I like the chef. 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:04.960 And now later dudes like yo, get your bread and 0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:06.360 you gotta get back. You gotta get out of it. 0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.239 Like where the funk? I was just with Big Daddy Kane. 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:12.560 What are you talking about? People like so you understand, 0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:16.720 meaning the thought process of having to have that belief. 0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:18.439 And let me tell you something. You have a day job. 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.560 Don't never be a change because the day job feels 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.920 the dream job, you know what I mean. And and 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.040 and and and and until you could let loose you. 0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.120 Let that funds you. You know what I'm saying. Let 0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.600 that funds you, so you could. But the thing is, 0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.960 people gotta put the work in on the side. You 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:36.600 know a lot of people work at eight to four. 0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:41.400 They tied. Okay, I'm tired. I'm still tired. But what 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:44.880 I'm saying is it it takes time and you have 0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.520 to be willing to do that. And I think throughout 0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.120 the show, you know, I was able to, like I said, 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.360 you know, you say a couple of words. I was 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:56.880 able to have to me some formidable, beautiful interviews with 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.279 some people and really show that like, all right, this 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.600 kid it's talented, right, you know what I mean, Like 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.880 this kid can form some I'm look, you don't have 0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.279 to like everything I do, or that people don't have 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:10.640 to like everything you do. Right, You're not denied that 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.440 you're building a network, that you're putting people on, right, 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:17.720 that you're trying to uh employ you, yourself, your family, 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.319 your friends, people that you know. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.840 you can't deny those things. It's a process and people 0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.920 should be a sponge and support that and get involved 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.160 in that instead of hate, you know what I mean? Man, 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:33.319 And I tell people all the time. Man, We've had 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.239 a lot of people, some of our guys man have 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:37.360 made the journey with us from the beginning. Man, shout 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.239 out to my homeboys and twins Man that connected experience 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.640 in instern Michigan. Oh yeah, I know I know them. Yeah, 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:46.040 they brought me out many years ago. Uh yeah they're good. Yeah, 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:47.960 I'm spoke to me a while. But God bless him 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.080 man and all the good brothers. Man. They've been done 0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.759 with Digital soapbox Man for the lab. They've been done 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.600 with us for the whole ride. Man, love those guys, Man, 0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:59.600 but people don't understand, man. Things don't happen overnight. Man, 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.680 So you take the opportunity man that you were to 0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.560 see there was initially planned man with the combat jack 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:09.399 show man, and you've been able to quantify that man 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:13.160 and doing several different things, and that's what people understand. 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.960 I even tell some of my guys because sometimes you 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.200 do have those times the word there are no ad 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:22.319 reads jumping off, and you know, you just may just 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:24.839 beginning YouTube money and you got people like, oh, man, 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.359 this and that, and I'm like, what do you really 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.360 only do the show for an hour a week. You 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.719 don't really help with the planning of the research. You 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.560 don't have to worry about, you know, putting it together 0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.000 where we're gonna do the show at So you should 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.440 have you some other hustles going on. And that's what 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.840 I tell people. If you're you're a blessed. I had 0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:43.879 to tell a couple of guys that because people get 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.160 kind of complacent. Sometimes I told you got last week 0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:50.480 because it listen, man, you made eighty five thousand dollars 0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.279 last year. You know you didn't get rich, but you 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.520 made eighty five thousand dollars for talking ship all every week, 0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.000 and you're sitting up here complaining about more money. I said, man, 0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:00.959 the average American now to the day, man is making 0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.440 thirty thousand dollars a year. They gotta worry about their rent. 0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.839 They gotta take care of their kids. Man. They may 0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.359 have a leaky false with their cars off, neither might 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:10.840 have went out, and they gotta figure it out. But 0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.320 these people get up every morning and go make it happen, 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.080 sometimes twice a day. I know, I got a whole 0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.920 bunch of home to go to one job, man, and 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:20.680 as soon as they get off, they go home, eat, 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.440 taking nap for a couple of hours, and they're off 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.000 to the other one. And it's become a routine for 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:28.439 them because they have to. They have responsibilities. Because see, 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.080 I'm gonna tell you, the bills don't stop coming just 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.279 because this person didn't pay you. That person, it's gonna 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.120 keep coming. That little kid he can, he still needs 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.839 to eat, he or she still needs to eat. And 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.040 I get a lot of brothers. Man. One thing that 0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:43.320 you say, I think it's real dope. Man. That really 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.960 just caught my attention. Man, I kind of stow your mantra. 0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:50.760 I think everybody else ship is good. Presidents over presents, 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:55.840 prisons over presents. Man um, I got a lot of 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.239 homies man that are scared. You know, they take care 0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:00.200 of their kids, man, they maans, you know, they they 0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.320 paid the child support. Always in the key of clothes 0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:04.960 and stuff like that. I'm like, dude, why don't you 0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.120 go see your son? Man? Well, man, I don't got 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:09.200 this and that. Man, I want to be able to 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.319 do this. I say, do that kid. Don't give a 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:13.719 funk about you taking, you know, coming over their being 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.120 and gifts all the time. They want to go sit 0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:17.800 with it. They want to go throw the ball around 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:22.279 with their dad. Sure, no, no, my bad. But I 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:24.080 want to say, you know when you when you when 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:28.440 people when you think about having children and and and 0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:31.239 being there for the kids. Man, you know, look, at 0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:32.680 the end of the day, you sat down with a 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:34.400 lot of people. I sat down with a lot of people. 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.359 You here, people who didn't have fathers. We're in guid 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.240 as well. Women who didn't have a father in their life. 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:43.560 You know how it affected them. You know, Look, I 0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.200 sat down, I've done I don't even know how many 0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.719 interviews out right, you know what I mean. And I'm 0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:51.400 saying I hear men talk all the time but how 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.200 not having a father figure in their life and how 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.560 much it affected them. So I'm like, yo, you know, 0:45:57.960 --> 0:45:59.480 we have to you know. And when I was away, 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.280 that's when I came up with presidents of the presidence. 0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.160 You know, you get away if you get locked if 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:05.680 you get if you know, if you get locked up, 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.160 it's like, you know, possession or intent. You got to 0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.320 kind of go to asack class when you're away, or 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.719 or or a council. And the council was a real 0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:16.319 cool lady. And you know, everybody's in the class talking about, well, 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.920 I got knocked with two Mercedes three range rove is 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.320 you know forty grand? Yo? You got a cigarette. I'm like, 0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.200 you know, my man, you got locked up with all 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.759 this stuff. You're talking all the stuff. You don't got 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.040 no commissary money, you don't got nothing like we don't 0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:29.400 we don't know. You know. It's like we don't need 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.960 to be doing all this. So people always brag and 0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:33.520 jail you know what I mean, Oh I got this. 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.719 I got that. I'm not saying people don't, but a 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.120 lot of people it just becomes like, you know, my 0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.440 kids got this, My kids got that my kids got this, 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:44.320 and I was like, yeah, but they don't got you. Yeah, 0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.560 and and people don't realize even like I always say 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.680 this when when when in another version where it pushed 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.080 it even further for me is when we had a 0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.000 little boozy on and he was talking about my kids 0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.400 had iPads and and they had this, they had I found, 0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:58.839 they had everything. And I was like, yeah, I said 0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:00.480 the same thing. I was like, yeah, but view and 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:01.879 he looked at it like if you haven't. I don't 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:03.360 even know if the episode is still out there, but 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.160 I'm sure it is, you know. Um. But he was 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.480 like you right, and and and and look, you know, 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.879 you could have presents with presents, meaning if you body 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:14.480 could a football, you've got to throw it around with 0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:18.040 each other. But you're the greatest gift you ever give 0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:20.160 you a kid is your time. You know. Look, I 0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.120 bought my daughter a thousand, a thousand Bobby dolls. You 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.640 don't even remember them. I don't remember a thousand. Oh 0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:29.680 I remember you got the time that we spent together 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.160 and did this, this and this and this together and 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:35.239 ritual as we created you know. Look, I'm you know, 0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:38.040 I always look at the word fatherhood as a whole. 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:41.120 Even though I know I'm good, it's we still got 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.440 a lot of work to do, right meaning as a whole, 0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:46.840 to help uplift brothers to be there and also to 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:50.920 help woman and men realize if y'all don't get along, 0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:54.439 like just put that to the side so you could 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:56.640 be there for the kid. You know, if you're a 0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:59.600 man and y'all separating, things are over. Stop worrying about 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:03.960 who she fucking you know what I'm saying, Yeah, you know, 0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:04.880 you know what I mean. I want to give a 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:06.960 quick example and then you can take it wherever you 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:11.640 want to wind this down, whatever it is. My ex wife, 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:15.040 well my wife at the time, you know, because I 0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.080 got my daughter is gonna be twenty three, is crazy. 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:21.239 I've been separated and divorce since she was two. So 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:25.279 we like three weeks into our divorce and she hits 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.200 me up. She was honest, I'll give it a credit. 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.600 And she was like, it's like a Tuesday night at 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:31.719 like six o'clock. She's like, hey, Pete, am I Yeah. 0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.120 She's like, I'm going out on a date tonight. Could 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:36.239 you watch her? Could you watch our kids? And I'm like, 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.040 you're going out on a date. And you want to 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:41.759 have sex and ship like that? You want me to 0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:47.800 watch our kids bang on? Not thirty seconds later? I 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:50.400 called her back because they hit me. I'm like, my 0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:55.520 daughter suffers, who she's messing with. She's not doing it there, 0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.240 She's not a bad woman. We don't We ain't together 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:02.120 no more. Yeah, And so I called the right back. 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:06.440 Was like, yo, my bad. I came got it for 0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:08.439 a couple of hours. We went out for pizza when 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:11.520 the ice season and and that's where I started to 0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.399 even learn more and more presents over president. I'll give 0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.359 it to my brothers right now. What I mean by 0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:19.080 that is you get your kids on the weekend? Cool? 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.880 How about Tuesday for a quick slice of pizza? Just 0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.359 a quick slice, yo, you know what you're doing. Ye'll 0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:28.880 be right there, precise bring him back home. How about 0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.440 Thursday for a little ice cream? You know what I'm 0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:34.160 saying a little thirty minute thing. But I will say 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:35.880 to my brothers too, and I say this to a 0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:39.480 woman too, when you get separated, when you have kids, 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.279 you focus on them. You focus on the job, you 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.239 focus on your marriage, you focus on your bills, and 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:50.320 something you always forget about. And as you Okay, a 0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:52.440 lot of brothers do that too, A lot of dudes do, 0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:55.600 and a lot of women, unfortunately, are suffered by men 0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:58.280 who are not really there for them to be everything 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.399 they could be. M hm so. So the point I'm 0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.439 trying to make is, you know, I'm not knocking dudes. 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.399 I have, like some duders do. I see my kids 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.360 every other month. Everyone, I'm like every other month. Like 0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.160 I can't imagine that, you know what I mean? Like, like, 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:14.200 you know, I want to go get bird food. The 0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:16.680 other day, it's like five minutes from my sons. I said. 0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:18.080 I called him. I said, I'm gonna drop buy you 0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.319 one thing from Dunk of Donuts. Yeah, one, because he 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.160 likes him. I got him some donuts. I dropped a 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:24.759 game and kissing, hugging and kept him moving. I just 0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:26.960 can't but push it, man, But those are the times. Man. 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:31.200 If these kids remember, you know, before we before we 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:34.680 get on Big Dog, that we got ten minutes left. Man, 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:38.960 I wanted to ask you a question, man, have you 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:42.760 ever thought about going in the comedy? You know, it's funny. 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:46.400 It's funny you say that, because um it's funny you 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:50.160 say that. I always wanted to do stand up comedy. 0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.000 I know how to tell stories, I know punch lines. 0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:56.759 I love I love I love comedy, and I don't 0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:59.080 even I try to put it in some of my life, 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:04.400 you know what I mean? Um, what I did do was, uh, 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.239 I did it one time. I did it and I 0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:13.000 left it meaning uh Cipher Sounds had that uh UCB 0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:16.200 theater where he did the comedy. I forgot what it 0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.640 was called. Uh God, why am I having a blank? 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:20.759 But he did this comedy thing where they would do 0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:22.279 with reenacting. I don't know if you ever seen it 0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.839 what he did. For years he was doing it, and 0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.480 he invited me on there one day. So I went 0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:31.600 up there and told stories like a comedian and and 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:33.920 uh it was beautiful. Man. I had the whole crowd 0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.640 going crazy. And I'll be honest with you, at that time, 0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.640 I was doing like nine things because only three work. 0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:42.200 You know what I'm saying. I wasn't want to do 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.680 another fucking tent thing that you know. And don't get 0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:46.719 me wrong, Once you build up your name like you 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.839 know still you know, he's been in the music, he's 0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:50.560 been here, he's been here. Now you're building up the 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:52.680 podcast network. He build this sort of point. I'm trying 0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.000 to make it. You have you know, some sort of 0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:56.840 like you know, like we have some sort of following 0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:59.080 that could like yo, still we're doing comedy that come 0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:02.680 check out your boy. But what I'm saying it's another process. 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.719 It's another I go. I've been involved in so many 0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.719 beginning things it gets tiring, Like beginning to sneak is 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:13.920 people like collecting, why you buy two pads for you know? 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:15.680 Now look at it right? You know what I'm saying. 0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:19.000 Podcasting I swear to god, I've been a lunch with Combat. 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.400 I tell the story all the time. It went around 0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:23.480 the room. I'm a CEO of this, I'm a CFO. 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:25.480 What do you guys do? He's like, oh, what podcast 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:29.040 is the way? That's cute? You know what I mean. Meanwhile, 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.759 I told Combat like, go, no, you're a lawyer. Fuck me. 0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:34.000 You should have been like, oh, I'm a lawyer because 0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:35.960 people judge, people try to But what do you do? 0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:39.040 What do you do? What do you do? Oh? Pocket watching? Man? 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:43.279 Pocket watching all time? But what I'm saying is when 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:46.759 you're in the early stages of things and then not 0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:50.359 meaning only helping pioneer or push it, but then at 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.279 early stages of you and something that's been around. It's 0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:56.439 also a big job. So what I'm saying to answer 0:52:56.480 --> 0:53:00.279 your question is I love comedy. Um. I I don't 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.320 know if I have the time to do full stand 0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.920 up at my time in life right now, but I 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:09.320 will do things that, uh, you know, I will tackle 0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:11.600 things that. I know. It sounds weird to say this, 0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:14.719 but as you get older, I guess I'm trying to 0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.440 say I'm crossing things off. You know what I'm saying, 0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:19.919 I will try to do it because I love making 0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:23.440 people laugh, like I love. As much as people sometimes 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.759 will drain you and people will let you down, I 0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:31.719 love helping people and I love being there for people. Um, 0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:33.359 because I didn't have a lot of people were there 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.919 for me, and then when I was in my job 0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:39.200 times I did so so I want to be there 0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.600 for other people. And I feel like, uh, if you 0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:45.840 can make people laugh, if you can make people money, um, 0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:49.280 you know, it's a beautiful thing. Because one thing about podcast, 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.640 and again I'm gonna apologize to you because I was 0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:54.600 late this morning. I'm using I'm usually the one waiting 0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.759 around on people, man, but you know that's prime man. 0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:00.319 I was editing the fort. This morning, I said, man, 0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:02.919 you know, like semp up man abro seventh thirty minute. 0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:04.719 So I woke up, you know, wake up. I woke 0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.240 up this morning. Man. I went into the shower and stuff. 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.160 I said, yeah, I said, not got time, and I 0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:10.880 laid the marvel clown. I was up and take a 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:12.879 look net next thing, you know, you call it man, 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:15.759 And now I just want to know and I tell you. 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:18.040 And that's the thing too. You know what I learned 0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.040 to most people and you can't say this not meaning, 0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:23.239 you can't say this meaning like it's not a way 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:27.560 to live, like most people won't don't go to extra mile. 0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.640 And and even in this day and age like that, 0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:33.040 people don't know how to tuck their ego. You know, 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:35.200 people feel like they accomplished. I'm here to tell you 0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.200 if you I don't give a funk. If you made 0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:40.160 a million dollars, still tucking make five million, you know 0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.879 what I mean? Yea yeah. And also but also tuck 0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:46.040 to ego not meaning you know, I'm speaking in general. 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:47.920 So what I mean by that is I could have 0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:49.480 been like I could have sent you an email and 0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.920 like yo, I was there for ten minutes let's try it. 0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:55.799 You know, let's try another time. But that's why I 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:57.799 called you, you know what I mean, because like I 0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.040 committed to it and I want to you know what 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.839 I'm saying, like that that's my style and I appreciate that. 0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:05.239 I appreciate that. But what I was gonna say, Man, 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:08.879 you know, we deal with a multitude of different personalities, right, 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.160 some of the people, some of these guys and some 0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:15.120 of the coolest individuals I've ever met, become you know, 0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:19.640 I can say, man, through podcasting, I've met Short numerous 0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:22.839 times through the years, but now you know, interview with him, 0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.120 we actually wanted to become a friends. So you know, 0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:27.879 I'm like, Man, I remember I said be in high 0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.719 school bumping too Short, you know, So now he's a 0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:33.960 friend of mine. Man, So you run into a multitude 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:36.560 of the different personalities. You're a guy who has a 0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:40.640 big personality, right, Have you ever classed with men of 0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:44.200 your guests before? Nah? You know it's a great question. 0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:48.680 But but but no, you know you know why because 0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:51.960 I understand the job, you know what I mean, And 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:56.400 and I'm not afraid. You know, look, somebody like Bumbat Okay, 0:55:56.440 --> 0:56:06.799 one of the nicest Um, chameleon, UM, heartfelt, genuine um. 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:12.000 People I've ever known in my life. Um, you know, 0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.160 like I know my position in certain places. You know 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:17.960 what I'm saying, Like like no matter who what I 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.439 think I've done in life, like you know, like I'm 0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:22.560 not afraid to you know, there's times where I'll be 0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:24.800 around and somebody by premium pete, I'll be a bunder 0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:27.040 like yo, let me take a picture with you. Sometimes 0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:29.719 I'll step back they're taking a picture with Like, I 0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:32.040 know your position, right, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:35.200 I don't ever you know, I have a big personality, 0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:39.360 but but I want you know I'm I'm a team 0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:41.359 I'm a team player. You know what I'm saying, like 0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:43.799 you And that's what it's all about the team. That's 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:48.040 why I often say, like when I talk about digital soapbox, Man, 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.719 we were doing a lot of great things. Man. We 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:54.640 launched the TV network. Man that launches this marks Man. 0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:58.239 So it's a lot of our communities that have just 0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:00.839 through the different people that I meant that and partnerships 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:03.120 I've made. You know, a guy hs me a baby man. 0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:06.319 I want to expand on our partnership. You know, I 0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.080 want to buy Temperaton the company. You know, I want 0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:10.600 to help you out. And this is a guy that's 0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:13.600 you know, he's doing pretty well for himself. But those 0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:16.760 opportunities came through hard work and came to sacrifice, that 0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.680 came through tooking your ego in the back pocket. Sometimes 0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:22.560 because one of the guys that has helped me the 0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:24.600 most of my career. When I first met him, I 0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:28.120 thought he was the biggest asshole, but I didn't say 0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:33.920 anything because because he's just a very direct person. So 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.040 now I don't want to mess with nobody. I don't 0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.880 want nobody in my circle Pete that's scared to check 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:43.600 me almost some bullshit. I see you guys are gonna say, 0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:45.640 still know you funked up? Man, you shouldn't have did 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:47.840 that ship. Yeah, I mean you need someone to tell 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:49.960 you if you have a bugget hanging from your noes. Yeah, 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.520 for sure, you know before you step out. And I 0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:55.000 think that's the type of friends that I surrounded myself with, 0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:56.680 you know what I mean. And I'll tell you when 0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:59.080 you say, like you know short and everything, that's a 0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:01.400 beautiful thing. You know, I look at it like that's 0:58:01.400 --> 0:58:03.160 why you know. One thing I will say to not 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:06.600 only you on this interview, to people who are listening 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:10.120 to whenever they listen. You know, keep the water running. 0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:12.560 What I mean by when I say keep the water running. 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.800 These things happen because you're keeping these things happening. You 0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.320 know what I mean. Things happen because one thing opens 0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:21.080 up another thing. You know, like even when you think 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.400 about you know, I'll share this with you real quick. 0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.680 You know, armand the same thing. Legendary actor. You know 0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:30.440 what I mean. I had him on show. Now, me 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.360 and him, we day to day. You know what I'm saying, 0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:35.760 Like you know I would. I was at his house 0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:37.680 for like three months, you know what I'm saying, working 0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:40.120 on a project with him. I just had him as 0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:43.880 a guest on my show. You know what I'm saying, 0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:45.560 so so so to the point I'm trying to make 0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:49.520 is build those bricks, have patience, you know what I'm saying, 0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:53.440 do right business by people, you know, and unfortunately not 0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:57.560 everybody is gonna come along. Man. Something that really hurts 0:58:57.600 --> 0:58:59.440 me in my old age, where it's like, you know, 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:01.520 you picture of life is a bus and people get 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:05.920 off on certain stops and sometimes like damn, man, I 0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:09.240 wish they were still on the bus. But it don't 0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:12.440 work like that sometimes. Then I'm gonna tell you, Pete, 0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:17.120 that's been my biggest kind of achilles because you know, 0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:20.360 when you run a network, you're always looking at numbers. 0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:23.800 Everything is numbers. The thing about numbers, they're not based 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.960 on the motion. They're based on purely fact and that's 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:30.080 based on some subjective ship. But they're based on factors 0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:32.440 right there. Hey man, you did thirty thousand downloads in 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:34.360 the last episode. That's a good job. You know, we 0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:37.760 go kick that up something. But one of the hardest 0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:41.200 decisions to make, man, is letting people go. Sometimes you 0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:45.280 have to not only release people from a business situation 0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:48.600 if they're not performing to expectations. Sometimes you have to 0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:52.000 release certain elements of your life, certain people that just 0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:55.320 aren't good for you. I have people that I love, Pete, 0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:58.160 but they just don't. We can't co excite the same 0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:02.120 space now because the they're running around, they got dope 1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:04.480 in the trunk, they got hammers up under the seat. 1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:06.880 I can't get in the car with you, bro, I 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.280 can't have you come. You can't come up with my house, bro, 1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:11.800 because I don't know who's sitting on you right now 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:13.880 that might be looking at you and then not connecting 1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:16.160 me with your bullshit. I don't know if you've got 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:19.000 the boys watching you right now now that you know 1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:21.760 what I'm saying, you just don't know. So you have 1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:26.120 to really, man, releasing someone both in business and in 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:30.400 your personal life is the hardest ship ever. Because I'm 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:32.760 not gonna lie. I love everybody on our network, dude, 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:36.800 there they we become like a family. So sometimes when 1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:39.840 someone in the family is not performing to expectation, you 1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:42.200 have to look and say, man, do I keep making 1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:45.080 the investment and this guy whether it's you know, five 1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:47.320 thousand dollars a year, whether it's you know, a couple 1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:50.560 hundred dollars a year. So you have to make decisions. Man, 1:00:51.240 --> 1:00:54.880 Now you've got a lot of ship going on. Man, 1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.600 where can people catch up with you at well? I 1:00:57.600 --> 1:01:01.280 mean you know, on social media always at premium Pete 1:01:01.360 --> 1:01:05.200 or premium Peache show. I also do this new uh 1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:07.160 like a year already, I've been doing it. So now 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:09.720 I have like to two things with under the Umbrella 1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:12.560 or premium Pea shows Life gems and those are like 1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:16.800 small bite size mentorship episodes Like I have titles like 1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:22.520 overcoming doubt, lessons into blessings, lean into fear, uh, never 1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:24.560 stopped believing in you, you know what I mean. And 1:01:24.560 --> 1:01:28.680 it's literally like, you know, twenty I go. I put 1:01:28.680 --> 1:01:31.840 this out during the pandemic because I don't like doing 1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:36.800 uh interviews remote because I can't connect with the person fully, 1:01:36.880 --> 1:01:39.080 you know what I'm saying. Like it's tough for me. 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:40.640 So I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do these audio 1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:43.240 episodes and I'll tell you, man, people all over the world, 1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:45.760 and it makes me so proud because again, sometimes we 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:48.320 do this ship we make money, it gets views or whatever. 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.360 Some of the should we really love and some of 1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:55.160 the really helps people, you know what I mean, become popular. 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:57.760 But what are you really resonating? You know what I mean? 1:01:58.480 --> 1:02:00.560 Because you never know who you were in bed? Yeah, 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:03.440 you literally never know. Man. I'm gonna tell you before 1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:08.240 we jump off. Man, I had um you know, if 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:12.080 you were a listener, send me eatmail one day and 1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:14.080 he was telling us a man like, you know, I 1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:18.040 was really thinking about committing suicide. You know, it's snat. 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:21.360 So I called the guy. I said, hey, man, what's 1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:24.640 your phone number? So we got the building and talking. Man, 1:02:25.240 --> 1:02:30.640 you know, parole fella. Um been on his job, new 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:34.440 job for two years. Man, you know, I gotta situation, 1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:37.480 you know, improve this situation. Man, crib no. Man, his 1:02:37.560 --> 1:02:39.120 girl was living with him and he's taking care of 1:02:39.160 --> 1:02:42.880 his kids. He had lost his job. Man then um, 1:02:42.920 --> 1:02:45.880 you know, just through a series of miss unfortunate events. Man, 1:02:45.920 --> 1:02:48.760 his life is now in shambles. Oh he's you know 1:02:48.800 --> 1:02:51.080 built episode. He's thinking about going back to the streets. 1:02:51.080 --> 1:02:53.040 And he's like, man, before I go back to prison, 1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:56.720 I'd rather be dead. I had this insurance problty. I said, 1:02:56.760 --> 1:02:58.480 first of all, brother, you know you jump off of 1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:01.000 the bridge. Your family not gonna get that money, so 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:02.840 you're not gonna helping that way, and then you're gonna 1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:05.520 be gone. So they you know, they have not now 1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:10.760 not only are they financially burdened, missing presence and um. 1:03:10.760 --> 1:03:12.640 So I talked this dude and build with him. Man 1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:15.280 and um. I remember I had a free promo code 1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:18.480 man from Better Help, you know, from the you know, 1:03:18.600 --> 1:03:22.080 we got a sponsorp with them. So I was really able, like, man, here, 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:23.840 you know what, Man, you need to talk to someone. 1:03:23.880 --> 1:03:26.200 I'm not really qualified, but I'm here to tell you, bro, 1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:31.080 we need you here and he's checked in with me 1:03:31.160 --> 1:03:33.600 Man a couple of times Man over the last few years, 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:35.520 and it's just like I think it's dope, and it's 1:03:35.600 --> 1:03:38.800 made me understand what our ultimate purpose. He is. Man. 1:03:39.280 --> 1:03:41.640 We're here to be an inspiration of us. Man. And 1:03:41.680 --> 1:03:44.680 I tell people all the time, Man, and this planet, Man, 1:03:45.840 --> 1:03:48.400 all of the best people are people of service to 1:03:48.680 --> 1:03:50.960 have you ever noticed some of the greatest people you've met, 1:03:51.320 --> 1:03:54.600 they give a lot of themselves Man, whether financially or 1:03:54.640 --> 1:03:58.560 that personal time with their resources. So I've decided, Man, 1:03:58.680 --> 1:04:01.640 this planet, Man on my path, I want to help 1:04:01.640 --> 1:04:04.640 other people. Absolutely, I love it. How about this, I'm 1:04:04.640 --> 1:04:07.880 gonna say, you have my number, you have my email, 1:04:07.920 --> 1:04:11.240 you have my info. Let's get together and figure away 1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:13.680 how to help more people. I want to leave your 1:04:13.760 --> 1:04:15.840 show on this note. Though. Let me tell you, Man, 1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:18.600 no matter what you're saying is special. I've had a 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:22.000 lot of people who have done that with um in 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:23.760 this day and age, the way we grew up, the 1:04:23.760 --> 1:04:25.320 way where you are where we are today. I'm gonna 1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:29.000 leave y'all with this. No matter what you've been through, 1:04:29.160 --> 1:04:31.400 anything is possible, you know what I mean? Like straight 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:33.200 the funk up I'm not sitting here. I'm out of preacher, 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:36.360 I'm not nothing. Okay, if you never stopped believing, and 1:04:36.480 --> 1:04:38.840 what the funk you wanna do? If you never stop 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:41.720 believing in you, even through those dark days, and they're 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:44.040 gonna come. Those dark days are gonna come, and you're 1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:47.280 gonna feel worthless or maybe you feel depressed. But what 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:49.840 I'm saying is this tough days, but you get through them. 1:04:49.920 --> 1:04:53.120 You surround yourself with the energy you want. You know 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:55.240 what I'm saying, You surround and if you have a 1:04:55.240 --> 1:04:57.680 circle that is not, you start to you know, you 1:04:57.680 --> 1:05:00.160 don't have to announce all this. You just start, you know, 1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:03.560 getting putting the places that you want, you know what 1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:05.920 I'm saying. So you know life, life will come and 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:08.360 i'd say I'm out here to tell you they'll be bumps. 1:05:08.520 --> 1:05:10.439 And you know you noticed we all went through this ship. 1:05:10.840 --> 1:05:13.120 But what I'm saying is net like like today, and 1:05:13.320 --> 1:05:16.320 you know, I feel like the way I grew up. 1:05:16.360 --> 1:05:18.040 I was told if you want to cry, I'll give 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:21.040 you something a cry about. I'm here to tell you 1:05:21.120 --> 1:05:23.480 let that weight off of your shoulders. You know what 1:05:23.480 --> 1:05:27.040 I'm saying. Talk to somebody, Find somebody and then also 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:30.320 let other people like yourself and all this be an 1:05:30.400 --> 1:05:33.560 inspiration to people. You know. One thing I will say 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:36.360 I told my father one time. I remember somebody in 1:05:36.360 --> 1:05:41.280 my family had thrown a wedding and somebody in the family, 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:43.960 like friends of the family, wind up picking that same 1:05:44.000 --> 1:05:46.320 place because they felt it was so beautiful to have 1:05:46.400 --> 1:05:49.760 a fucking wedding, and that person who had the went 1:05:49.800 --> 1:05:51.960 in there before. I felt like, man, fuck them people, 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:56.720 they copied us. No, why would you be mad at 1:05:56.760 --> 1:05:59.840 somebody who was inspired by you? Right at the point 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:03.920 making it, don't shoot on people because they they inspired 1:06:04.040 --> 1:06:07.920 by you. Like, if you're not here to inspire people, 1:06:08.240 --> 1:06:10.600 then just moving your bubble. But what I'm saying is 1:06:10.640 --> 1:06:12.960 like like, like, that's not who That's not who I 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:14.640 want to be. I'm not somebody who wants to be 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:17.560 I hated selfish. I want to I want to help 1:06:17.600 --> 1:06:21.440 uplift and inspire people. But unfortunately still I'm gonna tell 1:06:21.480 --> 1:06:23.200 you this, what we said is not everybody could go. 1:06:24.000 --> 1:06:26.080 Now everybody can go. Man, you gotta lit some people 1:06:26.120 --> 1:06:30.680 up the bus. Man, Man, I truly appreciate you coming on. Man, 1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:33.880 I know what you're moving around. You probably on the 1:06:33.920 --> 1:06:36.840 coast a lot. Yeah, I'm on the East coast. I'm 1:06:36.840 --> 1:06:38.560 out on the West coast a lot. But but but 1:06:39.440 --> 1:06:41.960 you know, ship man, I'm just trying to spend more 1:06:42.040 --> 1:06:45.720 days international. As a Brooklyn kid, I'm still so humble 1:06:45.800 --> 1:06:48.200 to understand, like you know, like I was telling you, 1:06:48.240 --> 1:06:50.600 like you know, to be able to walk around the 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:52.800 streets in London like when I was growing up in Brooklyn. 1:06:52.840 --> 1:06:55.440 I'm listing the kids on my block like they did. God, 1:06:55.760 --> 1:06:59.480 they never been off the block, by the way, you 1:06:59.480 --> 1:07:00.919 know what I mean, I get it. But what I'm saying, 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:04.040 it's like to be able to experience that. So anyway, listen, 1:07:04.200 --> 1:07:07.320 I will say peace and blessings, thanks for having me on, 1:07:07.880 --> 1:07:10.000 you know, and and and like I said, this is 1:07:10.240 --> 1:07:13.880 a good pow wow of life man, and and and 1:07:13.920 --> 1:07:17.480 just advice you know for sure, Man, I appreciate you. Man. 1:07:18.240 --> 1:07:22.600 Then we have it, guys, Premium Pete. We're tuning in 1:07:22.640 --> 1:07:26.760 with you next week piece piece. Man, I appreciate you, 1:07:26.840 --> 1:07:28.000 big dog. Likewise,