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Speaker 1: welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter and it is Thursday now. Normally every Thursday

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Speaker 1: we have the delicious Mark Lupo join us. However, Mark

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Speaker 1: is traveling today, so we have a really fantastic surprise guest.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna believe this. It's a treat for a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if he's here. Donny Meetscham are you there?

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Speaker 2: Hello, love alone, Naughtise, I am here. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: your love and all your so many messages coming in

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Speaker 2: just wishing me well. And here's the thing. It's in

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Speaker 2: this business, in a lot of work life and a

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Speaker 2: lot of adult lives, but especially in this business, when

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Speaker 2: you have personal things going on in your life, you

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Speaker 2: sadly have to suck it up and get out there

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Speaker 2: and perform. And it's like, you know, it's that Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift song, I can do it with a broken heart.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no matter what she was going through, she

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Speaker 2: a million fans and for her airstur and she you

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Speaker 2: can't let people know that things are going on because

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Speaker 2: people look for you to give them the news, to

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Speaker 2: give them the pop culture, to be smiling, to be happy,

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Speaker 2: to be witty, to be funny, and if you're having

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Speaker 2: personal things going on, it's hard to do that at sometimes,

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Speaker 2: so fit In I took the opportunity to say, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna just let it out for twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have fun and I'm going to smile.

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Speaker 1: Donnie, You're a champion. I want to make sure everybody

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Speaker 1: knows that you want to be here today. You're not

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Speaker 1: being bullied doing this. You wanted to do this. And

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Speaker 1: if we can make you escape Donnie for twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: or so with some giggles, then we've done add job

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Speaker 1: to At any point during the show, Donnie, you need

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Speaker 1: to say goodbye and have a relaxation. Then we will

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Speaker 1: carry on without you. But we're lucky to have you.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump in. Hey, what time is it? My friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time. A big story at the top

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Speaker 1: of the show. So Travis Kelsey is spilling the beans

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Speaker 1: about what it was like meeting Prince William at Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift's concert. So he told you Prince William was there

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Speaker 1: with Charlotte and George, Little Lewis, who I love, my favorite.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't there always trouble, trouble, trouble. But now Travis

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Speaker 1: is explaining how he all went down, and he said

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Speaker 1: that Prince William is the coolest mother effort. We don't

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Speaker 1: And he said he was there with Little George and Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: We knew that. He called them an absolute delight. And

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Speaker 1: not an official royal event, he didn't have to bow.

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Speaker 1: That's not technically the protocol. But will let it go.

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Speaker 1: And he said that he did place his beer a

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Speaker 1: William enjoys a beer too, I'd be intimidated. I've met

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Speaker 1: so I totally get why he feels like this, Donnie,

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Speaker 1: but it's lovely to hear this little bit of chit

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, and William wouldn't intimidate me. You know, Kate,

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey, are they are American royalty? Right?

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Speaker 2: And so I almost reckon that Prince William might have

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Speaker 1: Oh that's so smart, Donnie. I never thought about that.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they get intimidated. It's so interesting. When

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Speaker 1: But she has such a warmth about her. She knows

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Speaker 1: to our pole question of the day. So Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 1: Prince William at Taylor Swift's concert. Our question is should

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Speaker 1: Travis shut up? Should he be telling these secrets like

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Speaker 1: it's backstage? I have a rule. I'm a gossip columnist,

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Speaker 1: those morning shows I do, Donnie, I never gossip about

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Speaker 1: should he really be talking about this or not? Go

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Donnie Love, what

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Speaker 2: And a shocking twist here. Multiple charges are looming in

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Speaker 2: the Matthew Mary death investigation and sending new development. Law

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Speaker 2: upef for norphine, which is an opioid, as a contributing factor.

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Speaker 2: have had fentanyl in it, laced with fentanyl, and this

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Speaker 2: put finnyl in a lot of these drugs and people

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Speaker 2: just want you to be safe. You can buy fentanyl

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Speaker 2: testing strips on Amazon for ten dollars for ten of them.

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Speaker 2: what's in these drugs.

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Speaker 1: And you don't know what's in them.

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Speaker 2: It's mostly not even the dealer trying to do it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a world that I know a lot about,

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Speaker 1: find out where Matthew got these drugs. And it's a

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Speaker 1: we're probably having different points of view on this. Darner.

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Speaker 1: You have friends that are part of that club scene

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Speaker 1: I want people to be safe. I'm trying not to judge.

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Speaker 1: but I'm trying not to judge. But I do want

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Speaker 1: talking about is Trump, Biden and Taylor Swift. Well, I

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Speaker 2: The nice of the day is Siri Cruse. She's honoring

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he dumped her. He's dumped her, and so she

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Speaker 1: social media. Tone death, How rich do you need to be? Like? Really,

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Speaker 2: I don't get this man. He makes it really hard

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Speaker 2: you know, I've always loved Justin's music. But when the

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Speaker 2: others should not drive, you know, whilst drinking NK.

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Speaker 1: that hard Justin, But now he's decided to sell his merchandise.

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Speaker 1: moment of rub. You're gonna rub rub. It's never too

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Speaker 1: late to be kind, to be polite, and to be

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Speaker 1: It's never too late. You can change this action. You're

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Speaker 1: to be Naughton, you've got to be nice, nice, take care.

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