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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I'm joined by room

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Speaker 1: filled with the heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosal.

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Speaker 1: Who what is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Uh? Today's Friday,

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Speaker 1: the end of the first week of free agency. Guys,

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Speaker 1: great work. Marks got a big old smile on his

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Speaker 1: This is the Friday edition of the Around the NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: sponsored by no One, and I'll throw it out there again.

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Speaker 1: Whose whose head has the roll? Is the question? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The free agency news flying through the air. That secondary

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Speaker 1: ruined by a decision that was out of their hands. Well,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, I'm not saying that was the only

425
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: thing couldn't ruin the Browns, but it was a big partner,

426
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: absolutely right it It body rocked the franchise and it's

427
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: set them back, you know, in all that business. But

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Speaker 1: it might be Manzell's text to to uh Dowell Logan's

429
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: that night, because basically that set the wheels in motion.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a sure thing that they were

431
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 1: going to go get them. They traded up to get them.

432
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that would have happened otherwise. And Connor

433
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: Or wrote a great um fule g piece on NFL

434
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Speaker 1: dot com when the news came out, and he and

435
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 1: that article. He did cite that that was the that

436
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: was kind of like the final marker. And he saw

437
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: that text and Hazem was told about it. Hasm was like,

438
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: go get him so and again just it's easy for

439
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: people to to bury the Browns now. But I was

440
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: in Radio City. I remember the excitement in that building.

441
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: That was by far of the drafts that I got

442
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 1: to go cover the most buzz I remember before the

443
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: pick went down and the place was packed to the guilds.

444
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: It's probably why they're not there anymore. Part of the reason.

445
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: They just got too big for the event. But seeing

446
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: Drake going up the stairs behind us, and Drake had

447
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: a song called Draft Day with Johnny Manzel's in the lyrics,

448
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: like he was the biggest deal out there, and the

449
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: Browns got sucked into that and it all blew up.

450
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: I've had no qualms about criticizing the Browns for the

451
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: three years of this podcast, because they deserve it. Keep

452
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: just start winning if you want to, if you want

453
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Speaker 1: to stop being criticized. But this feels like life throwing

454
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: the last punch too hard. I don't know. I just

455
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 1: feel like no, no organization deserves um. So Johnny Manziel

456
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: out and we'll see what's next for him. But I mean,

457
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: would not be a surprise if we never see him

458
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: again in the NFL. But if he does resurface, will

459
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: surely talk about him. Let's move on. Jennar's Jenkins Uh

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00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: Just a quick note here. I found this to be

461
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: interesting slash funny, slash four voting for the New York Giants.

462
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: He is now the second highest paid cornerback in the league.

463
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: We talked about that on Wednesday, showing about whether that

464
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: was the right money to throw around. Uh, he had

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Speaker 1: a I believe it was a conference call with local

466
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Speaker 1: reporters on Thursday, and he was asked what he can

467
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Speaker 1: improve upon from his time in St. Louis now that

468
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Speaker 1: he's in the Big Apple. And here's the quote, West

469
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Speaker 1: and I want your I want, I want your insight

470
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Speaker 1: on this, Jennaris Jenkins just stopping lazy at the end

471
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Speaker 1: of games or whatever I we we talked about. I

472
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Speaker 1: I understand it's funny. We talked about whether we were

473
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Speaker 1: going to write about this on Thursday, and I considered

474
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: it the lowest of the low hanging fruit, especially without context.

475
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Speaker 1: I think what he meant to say, what Texas, I'm

476
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: gambling for big plays at the end of games instead

477
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: of like being diligent about what I'm supposed to be doing.

478
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: And he wouldn't be the first player to do that,

479
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: but it comes off sounding much worse than I think

480
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: he meant it to be. Well, he's known as a

481
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: player that's not ultra consistent, so he's admitting that too,

482
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: that he gives up big plays that he makes big plays.

483
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: He's a good man cover corner um, but his level

484
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 1: was up and down. And that's kind of when you

485
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: look at not that pro football focus is the end

486
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: albl when you look at what Jenkins has done year

487
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: after year. He's a guy that starts every game and

488
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: winds up being a solid but not exceptional cornerback. Because

489
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna make someone's he's gonna give up someone's and

490
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: that's why his contracts seems a little wacky. If anything,

491
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Speaker 1: this quote just sort of said to me, like, buckle up.

492
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Speaker 1: I think Jenkins has gotta make a lot of those

493
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: gotcha headlines in New York, whether it's fair or not.

494
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: This is the dream team quote for the Giants. And

495
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: to West's point here, he was asked to further explain

496
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Speaker 1: his lazy comment, just relaxing thinking about the ball not

497
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: coming to my side and focus thing more on the game.

498
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: It's just the mind thing easy to control. Uh. Playing

499
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: on this level, some things are gonna happen and you've

500
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: got to improve. Man. So yeah, maybe it wasn't quite

501
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: as glaring, but it sounds like he was saying, when

502
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Speaker 1: the ball is not coming to my side, I'm kind

503
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: of checking out a little bit and I shouldn't be

504
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: doing that. I mean, we just watched Brock Oswaller's press

505
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Speaker 1: conference yesterday and he couldn't be more of a kind

506
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: of smooth talking salesman about everything, and not all these

507
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: players are trained to answer every question this way. And

508
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna go to New York, the

509
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: one thing is you gotta learn. You gotta learn not

510
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: to let these quotes come out of your mouth. Now.

511
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: Mark Sesler is a big Brock Ostwallder fan. That's been

512
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: coming more and more clear as this week develops. He's

513
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: become the biggest defender in the news room because he

514
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: wrote a feature about him where Brock lied to his

515
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Speaker 1: face for ten minutes. It is not just because of that,

516
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: it's because he is getting attacked. You want to talk

517
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: about our news from culture. It's like this guy is

518
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: getting destroyed by people, got buried by the whole quadrant.

519
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: Really did. And I will start start calling him the

520
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: ultimate straight shooter, a guy you know in a press conference,

521
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: that's what you want your son to be like. But

522
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Speaker 1: I didn't say that about I said he was a

523
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: smooth talking sim actually a compliment to that point. He

524
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: had his press conference. Brock he was introduced yesterday. This

525
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: let's play a little bit, uh Brock Osweller being very

526
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Speaker 1: honest and speaking with a press. Um. You know, I

527
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: just want to start this thing off today by by

528
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: thinking Mr McNair and and the entire McNair family, UM,

529
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: along with Rick Smith and UM really just giving me

530
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Speaker 1: this incredible opportunity. It's a robot, bro I get it

531
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: all right. So the conceit is that he's just you know,

532
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: on the microphone. He's Peyton Manning Part two. I don't

533
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: think he's a robot. Russell Wilson's a robot. Brock Osweiler

534
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: is much more polished and smoothished. He's trying to sell

535
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Speaker 1: you something. Yeah. The only the only thing I didn't

536
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: Mike was just when you know they're asking him about, well,

537
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: did it bother you at all? That you're, oh no,

538
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: not at all. The opportunity. You know, it's fine, you

539
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: can put out those answers or whatever, but then we

540
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: can at least question that when we know them that

541
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: they're not true. That's fair. I mean he's so polished

542
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: though that he probably knew that, you know at the

543
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: introductory press conference with the team that just opened up

544
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: the floodgates money wise to pay him. He's not going

545
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: to start crapping on the bron So great to me

546
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: and amazing. I mean, honestly, you can there is a

547
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: line between not the submarine in your former that's fine,

548
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: But we just talked here. We just talked about a

549
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: quarterback that has done nothing right, that is the last

550
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: guy in the building that isn't working hard by all

551
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: by all estimations people around brock Oswaller Study is an

552
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: incredibly hard worker, and you can have him as the

553
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: face of the franchise. Maybe he's not giving you your

554
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: hot take quote that's gonna burn NFL dot Com to

555
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: the ground, but he's not going to get you in

556
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: trouble either, right, I do you want that? Like, I

557
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: don't you gotta be kidding me that you want him

558
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: to start flaming people. It doesn't matter. I don't want

559
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: him to start That's all I know. But we said

560
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: that about Peyton Manning. We said that about Peyton man Yeah,

561
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: he just he just seemed And it doesn't really matter.

562
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't think your press god performance makes one difference

563
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: whether he's got to be a good player or not.

564
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Just watching it made me less likely to root for Brock,

565
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: by the way, because I mean from Greg who like

566
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, oozes over Patriots press conferences, this is extremely precious.

567
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: Dan called this press commerce the worst and there have

568
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: been many bad ones, the worst press conferts in history.

569
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: In terms of something that I would want to watch.

570
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: It was and this is and this is no shot

571
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: against Lamar Miller, but like perhaps it is. He came

572
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: on before Brock. They brought Tony Bergstroman before I missed Burgo.

573
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: I was I was getting lunch, but I I checked

574
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: in with Lamar and Lamar was like he it was

575
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: almost like he was reading from a hand guide that

576
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: cliche answers anything he asked them. I'm just so grainful

577
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: and blessed to have this well. The owner GM and

578
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: coach were reading from the handguid of Platinus and are

579
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: not paying these guys to come on and be press

580
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: conference poets. They want Lamar Miller to rush for twelve yards.

581
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: That that's fair. Foss conference went Ultimately, it doesn't matter,

582
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: but it was just got a funny watching Brock with

583
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: the three by five cards and that that putting one

584
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: to the side. And I would also like to thank

585
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: that he like changes the card my family. All right,

586
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: that's I I hear you. I mean you have a

587
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: third son, Mark Brock's not the name. I think that

588
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: what absolutely, if anything, that one encouraging thing I think

589
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: for the Texas that he wanted to stick at the

590
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: dead bird, be out on his own and take a chance.

591
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: He also said he wanted to play him in week one.

592
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: I like it. Well, what an honest take, What a

593
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: hot take by Brock. All right, well, you know what,

594
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to defend him because he's it's

595
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: not fair. What's happening in here? Moving on? C J. Anderson,

596
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: who was a teammate of Brock Oswil with the defending

597
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Denver Broncos, has signed an offer sheet

598
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins. The deal is worth over eighteen

599
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: million over four years, per source involved with the deal.

600
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reports, Uh, the Broncos have five days to

601
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: match this. Uh. They don't have a ton of extra

602
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: dough line around, I guess, but maybe they do have

603
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: more than than they intend the expected after the Osweiler

604
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: uh bombshell. Uh so maybe C. C. J. Anderson's back,

605
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: But uh, the Dolphins were the only team interested. West

606
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: in c J. Anderson, does this scream to you as

607
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: a risky signing as well if he ends up with Miami.

608
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: Not at all. He was I thought the a f

609
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: c's best running back from November one through the postseason,

610
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: and John Elway is one of the best general managers

611
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He could not have misplayed this more.

612
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: All they had to do was spend eight hundred thousand

613
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: more dollars to put a second round tender on him

614
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: and scare everyone away. I agree, I'm a it's a

615
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: nice signing. I like this. The Patriots do this too.

616
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: I like going after the r f as because you can,

617
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: especially if the team on the other end is cap strapped,

618
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: you can. You can front load the contract. You can

619
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: overpay for the guy up front and force the other

620
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: team to not match it, and you'll get a good

621
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: player player the other team wanted. I don't know why

622
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: they put this tender on Anderson. Well, West and I

623
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: were talking about it. West was very fascinated the first day.

624
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: He was backed by this whole C. J. Anderson conversation,

625
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: and my only thought was they must not want c. J. Anderson.

626
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: They just not much or or really at all. I

627
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: would think it was insane to not spend the extra

628
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: wasn't all that we've seen in the past or two

629
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: is that Elway has said he will match any offer

630
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: for c. J. Anderson. That's so that's bizarre to me.

631
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: And we've we've killed the Dolphins a little bit for

632
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: some of their curious moves, but this is a move

633
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: I really like. I'd rather have c J. Anderson uh

634
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: the Lamar Miller, I would period, And I would definitely

635
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: rather have for the money than Lamar Miller can play

636
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: every down and carry the load. R Miller. Let's do

637
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Speaker 1: it for a full season. It was touch fairer. But

638
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Speaker 1: let's see Labar Miller convert a third and short. Look

639
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: at the teams that were interested in c. J. Anderson

640
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: right away that he was on a flight to the Bears.

641
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Speaker 1: He's played for John Fox before before he changed his mind,

642
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: goes goes to Miami. The Patriots were all over c J. Anderson.

643
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Speaker 1: I forget who the fourth team, Chif Kelly, Chiff Kelly,

644
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: and you know, he had a lot of interest right

645
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: away because I think he's a good player. And on gaze,

646
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: though it wasn't a gaze that called him fat chubby.

647
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Speaker 1: So but point being though that he must have showed

648
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Speaker 1: gaze enough after that to to win him back over

649
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: came the fat shaming too. Just a little bit tough, uh.

650
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: In other UM Dolphins news, former cornerback Brent Grimes, released

651
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Speaker 1: by the team after Byron Maxwell Is acquired from the Eagles,

652
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: has now signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Ran Getland

653
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Speaker 1: reports it's a two year, sixteen point five million dollar deal.

654
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Speaker 1: This came one day after a Bleacher Report report. You

655
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Speaker 1: don't see it's the problem. You don't name your site

656
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Speaker 1: bleacher Report. If in a lot of writing, whether it's

657
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: aggregated content or whatever, a lot of the a lot

658
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Speaker 1: of times the next word is reported. So I'm supposed

659
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Speaker 1: to now say Bleacher Report reported that's stupid. It's almost

660
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Speaker 1: like I was gonna say I struggled in writing where

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport reported. I mean, for heaven's sakes, maybe we

662
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Speaker 1: should have what if? Can we have him maybe alter

663
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Speaker 1: what if he should like changed his I that's up

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Speaker 1: to him. But it's a good suggestion. You know, come

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Speaker 1: Bleacher Report, come back to us, is all I'm saying.

666
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Speaker 1: But the report out there was that um Miko Grimes.

667
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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna say a bad thing about because

668
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Speaker 1: daddy wants to live family. I have a young son

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Speaker 1: that I love very much and a wonderful, beautiful wife.

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Speaker 1: I will not say anything about about Miko. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: you're referring to the tweet she said about Armando Sagaro

672
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Speaker 1: the Miami Herald Reporter that bullets are coming for him

673
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Speaker 1: for his disrespect. But hey, Armando has been updating people

674
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: a day after day. He's still living. Let me get

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Speaker 1: back to that Bleacher Report report, by the way, that

676
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Speaker 1: UH three general managers told Jason Cole that UH they

677
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Speaker 1: would not go near Brent Grimes, not because of his play,

678
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: but because of his wife. A day later, he ends

679
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Speaker 1: up with the Bucks. And that's ridiculous though, that they've

680
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: got cut because his wife. And I don't think it

681
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: adds very little to nothing. Oh I think it does.

682
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Speaker 1: I don't know. And he struggled last year and he

683
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Speaker 1: was making ten million dollars. And also that locker room

684
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: was a mess, partially because of his wife's way. I

685
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: think he was getting cut either way. If none of

686
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: that had happened, the very very likely chances that put

687
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: Dan's referring to his other people wanting to sign him,

688
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: and that was that was his Byron, Maxwell that much

689
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Speaker 1: better than Brent Grimes thought they make like the same

690
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Speaker 1: amount of money. Basically he was Grimes was gonna make

691
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Speaker 1: nine or ten and he's also five five four years

692
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Speaker 1: older than Maxwell. I I don't think Himes would have

693
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Speaker 1: had so we've got four years of a subpar Max

694
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Speaker 1: had excited narrative. Nico deleted her Twitter. Uh not coincidentally,

695
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: I would guess, but then used another Miami report what

696
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Speaker 1: a mess, another Miami reporter to issues a statement where

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00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: she like calls out uh, you know, thumb thugs and

698
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Speaker 1: people that were coming after her on social media, and

699
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: that's why she deleted her Twitter. But she will be

700
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: always in the picture, uh, liking or not society. She

701
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: was tweeting on Friday. That woman terrifies. Also, by the way,

702
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: I would not sign this guy for that very reason.

703
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: Do you want to bring that into your house? They

704
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: needed a cornerback. I gotta see the money. The base

705
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: value is only thirteen. It might be just like a

706
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: one year, five million dollar deal. We'll see. They also,

707
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Speaker 1: by the way, while we're here, some breaking news, not

708
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: not huge. We're talking bucks value signings. They picked up

709
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Robert Air's three years twenty one million dollars, who we

710
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: had ranked as a top free agency, a good pass rusher,

711
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: and they were desperate to find some pass rushing So

712
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: I think they did a nice little job kind of

713
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: waiting for the market to die down. And I think

714
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: by the way West's um issues with Miko Grimes tie

715
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: into West's overall viewpoint with women. You want a woman,

716
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: you could somehow have reins where you could somehow keep

717
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: her under control. If if you can't control a woman,

718
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: you don't want her in your life. Yes, should not

719
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: be more untrue. I need a pistol, I need a firecracker.

720
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: If she's not willing to put up a little bit

721
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: of fight then coming. This is a bucking bronco. This

722
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: is no, This is a crazy person. She she criticized

723
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback all season in Miami. How are you going

724
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: to do that publicly? She literally said that Grimes is boss,

725
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: was swallowing, how do I even careful here say this? Well? Whatever,

726
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: I'll just stop there. Yeah, she was making a piece

727
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: together sexual allusions to way to finesse your way out

728
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: of that situation. Greg True broadcaster, how about we moving

729
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: on before she starts throwing shade at us over here.

730
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: All right, that would be fun. We love to have

731
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Speaker 1: you Miko on the show, by the way. Uh, she

732
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: literally had a radio show, by the way, or at

733
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: least the regular like our sting. Finally in the news, uh.

734
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, of course under contract with the Eagles, as

735
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: is Chase Daniel. A lot of money being pumped into

736
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: the position by the Eagles, Doug Peterson said in a

737
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: press conference on Thursday. Quote Sam Bradford is the number one,

738
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: Chase Daniels the number two, and we're working on the

739
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: number three. And the coach laughed off the notion, says

740
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: Mark Cessler, and I write up that Philly would trade Bradford,

741
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: saying Sam's our number one. We're not entertaining any offers.

742
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: Do we believe it? I'm not. I'm not sure I

743
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: believe any of it, but I think at this stage

744
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: right now that yeah, they're comfortable with that situation. And

745
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: Daniel certainly has the last quote in that article if

746
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: you go read it, Chase Montana, Chase Daniel has an

747
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: opportunity to win the job. I think if he if

748
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: he plays better during the lead up to the season.

749
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: There's no question Sam Bradford will get the first snap

750
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: in the first priest in the first offseason practice, and

751
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: from there we'll see what happened. I mean, I would

752
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: I would expect he would be the Week one starter too.

753
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: But I think it just he can definitely play himself

754
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: out of this job. One thing, whenever you he inherited

755
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford and they didn't have to resign him, that's fine.

756
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: But Chase Daniel. He talked about Chase Daniel saying that

757
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: they got along, they clicked from the minute they met,

758
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: and that Chase Daniel reminds him of himself, which is

759
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: I just I think that's important to get back. I mean,

760
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was never a good NFL player. I'm not

761
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: saying that equivalent players. I get you're saying Greg, but

762
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: it's like, it's, you know, Daniel to me feels like

763
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: the sneaky, like ten games starter of these two. It's

764
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: it's not sneaky. He has now appeared in a record

765
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: nineteen straight around the NFL podcast Way to Go, Chase

766
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: Fontana Round Chris Hogan to signed an offer sheet with

767
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Greg, thus ensuring he'll go from a guy

768
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: hanging on to the bottom of the Dolphins roster in

769
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: a hard knocks to twelve catches. You put Amadolah Welker

770
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: on the way, it's not welcome, and Edelman and then

771
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: altogether you can't tell who they are. You're not gonna

772
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: know who to guard. We all believe read Greg Jermaine

773
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: Curse and the Seahawks agreed to a three year deal.

774
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: Curse back West, What do you think about him? Said

775
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: he would not take a hometown discount, then proceeded to

776
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: take a hometown discount the market told him to. Marvin

777
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: Jones got a five year, forty million dollar deal with

778
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: the Lions. His teammate Mohammed Sanu gets a five year

779
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: deal with thirty two point five million with the Falcons.

780
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: Mark is he a good second banana to Julio Jones.

781
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I think he's a fine third receiver, maybe even fourth.

782
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: This is a shocking contract. I like eight o'clock Sunshine.

783
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: What a song Titans land Rochard Matthews with a three

784
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: year deal. This is an underrating signing, isn't it. Greg? No,

785
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm not really on the Titoons boring forever Like okay,

786
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: great headline written by the Old Zoo or Heath Relief

787
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: Colan Steelers get tight end la Darius Green, I love

788
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: this move this, what's this doing in the Speed Round?

789
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: This should be up here and then talk about it

790
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: for two minutes spreads the field. Who's gonna stop the

791
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Steelers this year? Nakh leave candidate. We already did it,

792
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: we blew our load do it again. The Bengals and

793
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Adam Jones agreed to a three year deal. Pac Man.

794
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm just happy because he if he would have ended

795
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: up in Miami like people were saying, it would have been.

796
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: All of this is the upset contract of free agency.

797
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: Eight million a year for Pacman Jones while Reggie Nelson

798
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: and Leon Hall are unsigned. Upset that he's in the

799
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Speed Round for two straight podcasts. How much time do

800
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: we have? Like he was there? Lest that's right that

801
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: time to get back to Ladarius screen good point and

802
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: didn't even notice that. By the way, Adam Jones was

803
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: in it last time too. Who cares? Kobe Fleiner agrees

804
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: to a five year, thirty six million dollar deal with

805
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: the Saints. This deal, more than any other deal jumped

806
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: out to me, is insane. Kobe fleet Or got a

807
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: thirty six million dollar deal. Well, I mean I didn't.

808
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: His podcast is more on the Duyne Allen both than

809
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: they are the Kobe Fleaner. I don't know what Kobe

810
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Fleaner is doing with his hair. By the way, it

811
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: looks like a lady uh. Sierra and Russell Wilson are engaged.

812
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: One of the more embarrassing Instagram videos of all time,

813
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: posted by Russell Wilson flashing a gaudy seven million dollar

814
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: Mario Williams special ring. They are married. That means they

815
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: get to do it soon. Chris Westling also causing sports

816
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: writers the most unfunniest gaggle of humans alive, to make

817
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: jokes all day on. It was a terrible twenty five

818
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: thirty minutes on Twitter where every single person had to

819
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: issue their ridiculous bit. Let's go back to Ladarius Green

820
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: and west Is it crazy to think that he is

821
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: a fantasy monster in two thousand sixty, Well, there are

822
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: a lot of mouth to fee, but that's not crazy

823
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: at all. He's six six, so he's good in the

824
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: red zone. Also stretches the field faster than Plasco burst.

825
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: This guy runs a four or five three Philip Rivers

826
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: said he was the fastest player on the Chargers offense.

827
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: Speed Round complete. We should do the whole show. I

828
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: kind of like it around. We'll be out of here

829
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: real quick. We'll get to the same amount of news.

830
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: Oh so it's not eight o'clock, sunshine, What is it

831
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: eight o'clock delight? Excuse me? Do you all want to

832
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: have a disco Monday where we can just do all that? Um?

833
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: Ask West and Mark. I want to have a disco

834
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: Monday in my life for sure. I mean they were

835
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: around for the era, so I I can't. I can't

836
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: speak to it. That is patently false. I mean we

837
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: were alive, yeah, I mean Dan please? Oh? Also this

838
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: kind of how were the seventies? I don't remember. They

839
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: were almost no memory, but I you know, some memories.

840
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: It was a delightful era. Basketball cards and tricycles and

841
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: shrinky dinks. The one last No, it wasn't. Russell Wilson

842
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Prince, Prince and Mukamara signed with the Jaguars,

843
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: so he deal, it's from the Giants. It's weird. Generes,

844
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Speaker 1: Jenkins and Prince and Mukamara. Are they really like helping

845
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: their teams win in a hugely different way. Probably not,

846
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: and he probably just got one year eight million an

847
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: I like that also, West, apologies, Um, you wanted to

848
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: use this drop during the Kobe Fleaner discussion. Uh, but

849
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: we West bringing back Aaronsmith. I don't even like her. However,

850
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: because we're already playing the eight o'clock the light, you

851
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: can't double up on the I got you just now.

852
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't want you to think that, because I like

853
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: whenever you guys come to me with a new production

854
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: element before a show, I always embrace it. That's just

855
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: called producing. Part of the reason why I don't do

856
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: it more is because I don't like the phrase production element.

857
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: It sounds too corporate and it just rattles my kise

858
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: might come at you. It is the most ridiculous reasoning

859
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: for why you show it makes sense. I just hate

860
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: the phrase production element, like, just tell me to drop something, okay,

861
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: sound that makes show good? I mean, what are we

862
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: doing there, all right, winners and losers of the first

863
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: This almost feels ridiculous, Like I want to burn the

864
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: tape of this because this is gonna a little bit

865
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: premature on some level, but that's what we're here. This

866
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: is my favorite part of Well, but you don't have

867
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: to know. I took it a different way. You don't

868
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: have to necessarily say a team. You could say a

869
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: trend or Okay, I like that, all right, so well

870
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: some winners and losers. It could be a team, it

871
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: could be a player, could be a trend. As the

872
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: boss said, and we're gonna start with Mark Seiler. Well,

873
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: we don't have to speculate about guaranteed money. So my

874
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: winner is brock Osweiler because here's a guy that well,

875
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to go there because of the money is making.

876
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that the Texans are a

877
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: winner because we have no idea if two years from

878
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: now even be the starter. But the amount of cash

879
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: he made for the amount of play that he has

880
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: at the NFL level is stunning, and it just goes

881
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: to show that being a quarterback at this point in

882
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: our world's history is not a bad job assignment. Anybody

883
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: ever thought on that. I like that. You're already backing

884
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: off you, brock Oswelder. Love. Oh, we don't even know

885
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: what I'm backing off. What I'm backing No, what I'm

886
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 1: backing off of is us saying teams have won because

887
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: they signed player X half of these free agent deals.

888
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: These guys are absolute bus two years from now. Who

889
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: was our number one do year? Two years ago? You've

890
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: been saying you liked the move. You think he's got

891
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: to be good. I do, but I do, But I'm

892
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: not sitting here promising it if he's Mike Wallace was

893
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: our number one free agent a couple of years ago.

894
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Right then? Who was after that? A little safety that

895
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: went to the Saints. There we go, gi rouse bird.

896
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: That's not that's not Brendan's fault because TV rolled in

897
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: and took the attention of our producer Way TV somehow

898
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: from the grave blowing up the show. There was a

899
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: girouse bird. H West, give us a winner, the Oakland

900
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: Raider big winner. Two years ago, Mark Davis told Reggie mackenzie, look,

901
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: I know you can deconstruct a roster. Let's see you

902
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: reconstruct a roster. And what he did in two thousand

903
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: fourteen draft Derek Carr and Khalil mack The difference between

904
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Browns right now is the Browns

905
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: can't lure anybody right now. And it's also the difference

906
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: between the Raiders two years ago when they signed a

907
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: bunch of crappy free agents over the hill and we

908
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: criticized Reggie mckensey. For now, he's got a strong roster,

909
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: strong enough to bring in three starters in the prime

910
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: of their careers, collecchi Assembly, Bruce Irvin and uh Sean Smith,

911
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: a really good corner And I'm starting to picture this

912
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: team with Eric Wettele, who's still out there and they

913
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: need a safety, and Ezekieli Elliott and the draft. This

914
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: could be your a f C West winner. This is

915
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: a franchise. Look, they play in the worst stadium in

916
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: the league, they play on a baseball dirt infield, and

917
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: they got three really good free agents to sign. I

918
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: think the Broncos had a terrible week, not only because

919
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: they lost in the league Jackson and Danny Darvithan an Osweiler,

920
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 1: but because of the Raiders and because of the Chiefs,

921
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: who I think had a sneaky good week in terms

922
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: of keeping a really good defense together at a low

923
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: lower prices than you would have thought they had Mitchell Schwartz.

924
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be a better division next year.

925
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: I will go with the winner. Howie Roseman and This

926
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: is something nice. It's something that's been carrying over since

927
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: the combine where I sat slacked you out amazement watching

928
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: him own and just control that room and how he

929
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: climbed through that river of s and came out clean

930
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: on the other side. And not only has he been

931
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: able to improve his roster, his cap flexibility, and I

932
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 1: don't know if the team's better, but he's what he's

933
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: been able to do at this point is not only

934
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: get rid of Chip Kelly's guy guys, but also send

935
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: an f you to Chip Kelly, and a very public

936
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: f you to Chip chip Kelly. So he's making a

937
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: statement against the guy that sent him to the archery

938
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: shed in the Poconos. He's running the team the way

939
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: he wants it and nobody's bothering him. And to top

940
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: it off, on Friday, he traded Mark Sanchez and I

941
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: know he got a conditional drafting back. So it's not

942
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: for all these guys when the rest of the league

943
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: knows that he doesn't he has essentially doesn't seem he

944
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: has any leverage, and he's still bringing back things to

945
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: his team. Now, whether he could build this into something

946
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: that's a playoff team nexture, remains to be seen. However,

947
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman is on top of the world. My friend, well,

948
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: and he plays right into one of my winners. And

949
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: and he's one of them all the general managers that

950
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: kept signing people before this free agency started, and I

951
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: think Roseman did a better job of that than anyone. Vity, Curry,

952
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: zach Ertz, Malcolm Jenkins. You look at the deals they

953
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: signed compared to what ended up happening on the market.

954
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: He got great values. Everyone in Green Bay is killing

955
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson. Oh, why don't you sign a free age?

956
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: Why do you said? If Mike Daniels is a better

957
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: player than Olivier Vernon and Malik Jackson, and you got

958
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: him for four for forty back in December because he

959
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: had a forward thinking general manager. Who else is a

960
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: good good example for this one? Eric, how about the

961
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: Redskins and Kirk Cousins. I mean, you've got another year

962
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: to find out what he is versus having. If he

963
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: had gone to market A he could be lost completely

964
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: or be If the Redskins want to keep him, you've

965
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: gotta pay him brock Oswalder type money. Uh, let's do

966
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: a loser mark a loser. Hm hmm. How about John Elway.

967
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think we all view Elway is

968
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: I can't think of a better situation where a player

969
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: went on to become a front office executive and has

970
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: been more successful. Ozzie knew some fair enough, but we

971
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: talked about benefit of the doubt, and he certainly deserves it,

972
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: and he has more time to patch up some of

973
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: what's happened. And part of it is a Super Bowl

974
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: hangover where everyone's gonna go get paid. We see that

975
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: over and over. But what's happened at quarterback right now?

976
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: I think they're in a tricky situation. And Elway, you know,

977
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: he's he's suddenly and this has not been the case

978
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: for a long time with him because he was bold enough.

979
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: And this seems crazy that it seems like a bold move.

980
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: But getting rid of Tebow when did back then, when

981
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: the whole city was on fire with this guy and

982
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: having the ability to lure in Peyton Manning. There is

983
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: no Peyton Manning sitting out there right now, and so

984
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: he's stuck like another handful of teams trying to get

985
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: the best situation out of a pretty mundane crop of

986
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: available quarterbacks, and they can't go get one in the

987
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: draft up high necessarily, so Elway is he said he

988
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: wants this, he embraces the challenge. I believe it, but

989
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: it's not been a good couple of days. If they

990
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: get Kaepernick, all is forgiven on my end, not that

991
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: I think it will definitely work out, and not that

992
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: it was their plan. But it's good for the fans,

993
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: it's good for the entertainment of the league, and I'm

994
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm more excited to watch the Broncos on the first

995
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: night of the year if they got Kaepernick. That seems

996
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: like a fascinating experiment. I will never underestimate John Elway.

997
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have, by the way, Kaepernick and

998
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez or old Peyton Manning and Brock Osweiler, Kaepernick,

999
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: Kaepernick and I don't think. I don't feel strong at all.

1000
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: But Sanchez's numbers are better than osweallders West give us

1001
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: a loser, Angelino's Angelina's Yeah, I forget about this big

1002
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: splash the Rams when it come to Los Angeles, make

1003
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: this big splash in the first year and be exciting.

1004
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: They are dead set on going seven and nine for

1005
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: the rest of their They are dead set. They're proving

1006
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: it right now. If they don't want another quarterback Case Keenom,

1007
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: who is so tiny and so small, he's gonna get

1008
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: hit in Week three and be knocked out for the year.

1009
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: And he's not that good in the first place. Are

1010
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: you pulling a Sessler Provictian injury. I'm just saying I

1011
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: like him as a guy. At the end of the year,

1012
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: when your starter is terrible, bring him in for some excitement.

1013
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: But Case Keenom, they can't be serious about him as

1014
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: the answer. But they actually are. They lose two of

1015
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: the best players in their secondary. They're not improved really

1016
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: in any area. They're already a seven and nine team

1017
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: and they're getting worse. Gave Mark Barrett a lot of money.

1018
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: Let's uh, we can't talk around at any longer. A

1019
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: huge loser this week is the Cleveland Browns. Nobody wants

1020
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: to play for the Browns, and I don't know if,

1021
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: and not only there's no one wanted to play. Kaepernick

1022
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: does well, perhaps we'll see if that comes to fruition.

1023
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: But not only the Browns lose all of their free

1024
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: agents that they supposedly wanted to retain. There is, there's,

1025
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: there's and at a time where Sashi is in the

1026
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: building and that led to the latest round of hope.

1027
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: You have now reports seeping out that the Browns aren't

1028
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: aren't negotiating in a proper way, and you have you

1029
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: have this buzz on the street that everyone looks at

1030
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: the Browns as a college type atmosphere. You spent four

1031
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: years there and get out, and you have you know,

1032
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: the just finally, Manzielle, the ugliness is finally away, but

1033
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: you have that hanging over this week. Uh, it took

1034
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: three days to get that taken care of. Um, there

1035
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: was not one positive development mark to me, other than

1036
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: unless you're hot about Colin Kaepernick and the fact that

1037
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: that could happen. There wasn't one positive development about a

1038
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: Brown team that has a ton of dough and all

1039
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: they saw was guys walk out the building and more

1040
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: negative stories come out and around the building. Was just

1041
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: a bad week for the team. Yeah, Well, I mean

1042
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: from a pr angle, because no week is it's a

1043
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: weird week. I think for football fans, in for people

1044
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: that cover football, because we're judging winners based on who's

1045
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: the most active typically and who throws around the most

1046
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: money and activity for productivity. Well, I think that's fair

1047
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: if you look at how most of this stuff like

1048
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: finishes out. Yeah, I just I think if you're Cleveland though,

1049
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: and maybe what's what I would like to hope is

1050
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: happening behind the scenes is that they've said, look, going

1051
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: out and signing Olivier Vernon right now is not the

1052
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: wise move because by the time his contract ends, we're

1053
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: still not going to be there. I mean, that's that

1054
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: Maybe that's not the way teams need to be. Got

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Speaker 1: to keep throwing money a big players over and over.

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00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: But I think that they are settling in for an

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00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: absolute roster gutting. But isn't that part of you don't

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00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: have to necessarily go like the Jaguars r out of

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00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: the Giants route. But you know, when you have this

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00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: money and all the top players are out there, don't

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00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: you want to go get somebody here? When Aguars have

1062
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: had a couple of good drafts, and I think if

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Speaker 1: Cleveland had a couple of good drafts, then you'd start

1064
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: to see the free agency approach. I think also, bottom line,

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00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: you're talking about a front office that is pretty much

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00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: never negotiated deals and they probably were in over their heads.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see also see in a week or two.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's when free agency is over and obviously

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Speaker 1: like to see in six months. A lot of teams

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Speaker 1: haven't been that active. It's not like the Browns are

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Speaker 1: the only one. And one of my big losers of

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Speaker 1: the week. Is any reporter out there that use some

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00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: cordyball moneyball reference with the money Oh well, I guess

1074
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: this is moneyball. Not signing any Blairs moneyball. It's so

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00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: it's it's just like putting a sign around your neck.

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00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: That and I'm a hack. That's what the whole money Also,

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Speaker 1: I never read money money ball, right, it has nothing

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00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: to do with money ball. Whatever. Go you want to

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00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: make your Brown joke, make the Brown joke. That's fine.

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00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying yeah, I support it, But the moneyball thing,

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Speaker 1: I'm done with the I mean you want to talk

1082
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: about you had like ten minutes where people were coming

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00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: up to you about the Jets. I mean it's that's

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00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: basically from six am until three p every single day

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Speaker 1: as a Browns fan in our office from our production team.

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00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: Can we back it up a second. When the season ended,

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00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: Mark thought the Browns were in the worst situation that

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Speaker 1: any franchise has ever been in the history. Two weeks later,

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Speaker 1: everyone loves the Browns. Mark loves the Browns, Huge Jackson,

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00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: everything's great, Sashy Brown, this is really cool. At the combine,

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Speaker 1: we all love the brown you know. It's like, this

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00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: is a great direction. Now the Browns are all terrible

1093
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: against Like, I don't think that. I think they're terrible.

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00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: If they blow it up in a year or two years,

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00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: you've got a stick with it. I'm talking about even

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00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: the national conversation, but usually that it's reasonable for us

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00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: to be skeptical and to make fun of them because

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: they until they do it, would they deserve to be

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Speaker 1: It would be absurd to not be skeptical. Number one,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone well yeah, I mean I I

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Speaker 1: don't know. At some point, I'm thinking more from the

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00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: from the people that follow this team and have spent

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00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: money going to these games. It's just it's a tiresome

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00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 1: venture from December to January. But I would say there,

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00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: I think to West's point, I'm not asking you guys

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00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: to praise them ever, No, no, no, not that. But

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00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: it's like, don't get on the media and and football

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00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: fans for bearing the Browns. Get on the Browns for

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00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: continuously putting crap out there year after year and giving

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00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: no doubt, but the Browns for the fuel. I mean,

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00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: there is no organization that takes more abuse in all

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Speaker 1: of sports right now. So I mean I don't deserves it, Frankly,

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00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: that's the that's fine. It's a perfect fine, but it's

1114
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: it's a perfect storm. But you know, your Jets were

1115
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: not too far from the situation a few years ago,

1116
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: and you who who who are emotionally invested in it.

1117
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: It was not easy. And I think from talking more

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00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: for the fans, not that we who assess football cannot

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00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: rip them. They deserve to be ripped and they know

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Speaker 1: that mine is my moneyball thing is more going. So

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00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: there's a salary cap going on for ten years anytime

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00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: money ball can that just can't be moneyball if there's

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Speaker 1: a salary cap, the whole premise, you know. Anyway, those

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00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: are the winner, winners and losers. And Greg, you have, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have a hot piece out there will be coming

1126
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: out on NFL dot com that you can check out

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00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: where Greg really did and when Greg digs in, because

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00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: there's a joy to Greg's writing about football. I mean,

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00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: you're a football geek and that's a that's a compliment.

1130
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: I like it. I think it helps you get through,

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00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: gets through those long days. You know, you gotta have

1132
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: the love for the game absolutely, so read more about

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: Winners and Losers at NFL dot com slash. Greg's a

1134
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: football geek and he's proud of it. And there's no

1135
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: reason why you should have any shame because it's okay

1136
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: to love something. Can I write our winners and Losers?

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00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: Calm to please, please, West, don't step on my vanity,

1138
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: your please, I was just getting I'll call it something else.

1139
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: Heroes and Villains. Well, now that's already cornered. That markets cornered.

1140
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: I'll call it. I'll find a name for it. Tom

1141
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: Coflin's maybe Mark and lease out heroes and Villains to you.

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00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. Mark does an excellent job

1143
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: with that column, and it's one of my favorite reads.

1144
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: So I don't want to. I don't want to. I

1145
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it justice spoiler alert. Tom Coflin is a

1146
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: big loser watching all this money go out the door.

1147
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: You know what con text? Everyone knows Greg, where that's

1148
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: coming from. Now. I like Tom. Two games both played

1149
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: in February that where the NC and Tom Coffin was

1150
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: the coach of the nf A team and Bill Belichick

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00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: was the coach of the a f C team, and

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00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: in both those cases something like this went down. I'm

1153
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: saying that happened. I don't know if you heard, but

1154
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: that this whole thing doesn't make sense. The throw of

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: the why not? That's what people were telling you feedback. Well,

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00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: I was told that then. You know, it was funny

1157
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: at first, but now it's a little petty block them,

1158
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: a little bit petty ending. I still find it quite funny.

1159
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: Continue on with it, all right, before we get out

1160
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: of here, we'll check in now with the professors, the scientists,

1161
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: excuse me, of around the NFL. Uh. The top countdown

1162
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: is now been whittled down because a lot of guys

1163
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: are off the board, but there's still some talent out there,

1164
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: so um, Mark, Greg, I'll start with you. Who. Uh.

1165
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: Let's see, I'm looking at the top five guys left,

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00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: Eric Weddle, Russell o'cun, Reggie Nelson, Fits Magic, and Chris Long.

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00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: Little surprise, Chris Long still out there. I thought he

1168
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: would have a better market. The top five guys. Who's

1169
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: off the board. Next it's impossible to say put a spot.

1170
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: Okung is getting interest and seemed like he'll be out

1171
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: there for long. Chris Long got some interest from the Patriots.

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00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: You want to give another winner for the week. How

1173
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: about the top ninety nine list? Eighteen out of the

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00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: top twenty, We're gone within twenty four hours. It's crazy.

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00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: It was just like they were picking through the list

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00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 1: and the top two guys not even Humble. The top

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Speaker 1: two guys on the list got the top two Bundy.

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00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: So teams are clearly just waiting for this list to

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: come out. And then is that? Is that what it is?

1180
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: I like that West who on this list? Are you

1181
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: surprised has not been connected or been heard from? Really?

1182
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: Now almost three days through free agency. I don't know

1183
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: if I'm surprised about any Uh. Eric Weddle apparently has

1184
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 1: four teams after him. The Raiders are won. He's taking

1185
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: his time. Reggie Nelson's taking his time. People don't want

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: over thirty safeties. Um. I think Reggie Nelson, I've only

1187
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: heard one team connected to him, so I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if he's got much of a market after a Pro

1189
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: Bowl year. I think Fitzpatrick is interesting obviously the track

1190
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: we've talked about him. Alden Smith will see if that ever.

1191
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: Arian Foster is a guy that has had no interests

1192
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: so far. He might not sign if you were talking winners.

1193
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: Running backs were a winner. The NFL finally uh decided

1194
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: to pay running backs a little bit again. And yet

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01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: Arian Foster is the way you know, well, when did you?

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, Mike, why didn't you? If you were a team,

1197
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Speaker 1: If you're Aaron Foster way through, you're done rehabing a

1198
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: blown achilles before showcasing yourself. Probably it might be like

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Speaker 1: a springtime signing. He's a guy to he's like kind

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Speaker 1: of a sleeper in this whole off season. I like

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Speaker 1: me some Walter Thurmont. Yeah, I know he's not high

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01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: on this list. He's down at thirty seven. But good

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Speaker 1: season last year, played safety, and I don't know there's

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a couple of teams out there that

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01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: I think he could fit fit with. Well, this happens

1206
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: to him every every March. He has flipped from team

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: to teams. Said the last two years, we expected him

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: to be signed earlier, but people don't trust him to

1209
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: stay healthy, and I think he doesn't fit every scheme.

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Speaker 1: One team that doesn't read this list is the Eagles

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Speaker 1: because they gave Rodney McCloud big time money to replace Walter.

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Speaker 1: There with um who gets signed first out of these

1213
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: three triplets of um trouble Junior Gallette, Alden Smith or

1214
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Speaker 1: Greg Hardy. I think the Redskins want to keep him.

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01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: They haven't been able to figure out a contract. Gal

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: Aldon Smith's tricky because he's suspended for what the first

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Speaker 1: half of next year. Yeah, he might not get signed

1218
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: the whole time there because I thought it was an

1219
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: interesting guy to keep in mind, but teams might just

1220
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Speaker 1: wait for that suspend I think Greg Hardy's unsignable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean this looks demonic and his head shot. By

1222
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: the way, yes, you can see nfl dot com slash

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Speaker 1: free agency to see this list of players. Um so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean. And by the way, just just sobody knows,

1225
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Speaker 1: so I do get tweets about it occasionally. The l

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Speaker 1: A Gray Beards Listen, we're not thrilled, first of all,

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Speaker 1: that we're sharing the Los Angeles market. I think I

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01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: think we were quite happy having Los Angeles to ourselves,

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Speaker 1: where the Los Angeles Lake Gray Beards. By the way,

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Speaker 1: they're probably gonna finish ahead of the l A Rams.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for asking. Greg. The l A Gray Beards

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01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: are my annual team that I pieced together of free agents,

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Speaker 1: veteran players UM that do not have a home, perhaps

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01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: surprisingly so, and I give them a home. I this

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01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: is what like in June or something will be in April.

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01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: It will be next month earlier, Greg Hardy, as the

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Speaker 1: general manager, Dan, I will not I I don't want

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01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: to say anything right now. I'm trying to put the

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01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: best teams. Uh, that's a great question too. He might

1240
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: not qualify under the gray beard UM guidelines. But I

1241
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: am tracking this and I will be. Uh look out

1242
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: for content on this in a couple of weeks. On

1243
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: the two thousand sixteen l A Gray Beards, it sounded

1244
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: like a season ticket renewal, like get ready for well

1245
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: I did, I did, kind of, I did kind of

1246
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: phone it in so um alright, So yeah, check out

1247
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: the remaining free agents. Check out all the content Greg's pace. Uh,

1248
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: follow the around the NFL if you feel like it.

1249
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: A news page to stay up to date on the

1250
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: news and on the Fitz apocalypse and everything else that's

1251
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: going on in the NFL. We will be back on

1252
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: Monday with another week of shows. We just keep coming

1253
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: at you. It's almost it's almost insane. Yeah, how much

1254
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: content we are pumping out because we love to be

1255
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: in communication with our beloved listeners. So thank you to

1256
01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: everyone uh for listening, uh until next weekend. That we're

1257
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: getting into some sandwich. Oh yeah, Brandon, you wanted to

1258
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: touch on um because this is the first time you

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01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: made a sandwich run. Yeah, and I did give you

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Speaker 1: a heads up that mark sandwich is a little different

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Speaker 1: than most of ours. Yeah. No, you wanted to share

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Speaker 1: the ingredients of the sandwich. It sounded like an excellent

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Speaker 1: sandwich to me, it was Are you a vegetarian? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. It just sounds good. It's a custom veggie

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Speaker 1: sandwich with multigrain chabbata, pepperjack, cheese, romane, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers,

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Speaker 1: green olives, pickles, red onions, halapenos, salt and pepper with

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Speaker 1: some mustard. Whoa so exotic? Where's the beef? Dan's never

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Speaker 1: heard of a sandwich like this? Where? Yeah, where's where's

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Speaker 1: the real? Well? I'm vegetarian, so I wouldn't be eating

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Speaker 1: like part of an animal's body. How about that the

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Speaker 1: pigs to the green olives. I would definitely hold the

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Speaker 1: green olives person. Come on, now, you would not that

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Speaker 1: a surprise. Mark found so many different ingredients that were

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Speaker 1: actually food that he that he likes to eat. That's

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Speaker 1: actually all the food that Mark likes. What is you know? What?

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Speaker 1: You know we have marketed back in a better mood

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Speaker 1: at the end of the week. And it's one of

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Speaker 1: the third subplots is Greg's critique of my diet and

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Speaker 1: it is we're into year five of this at this point.

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Speaker 1: It's true. All right, thank you for everybody listening. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan hands As signing off for the Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss, the all irishman behind the glass.

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Speaker 1: Great first week back, Buddy, tell him one day