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Speaker 3: You are listening to episode ninety five of Hurdle, a

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: If I took anything away from that relationship, with that

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Speaker 3: It's true because every single day, like we are the

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Speaker 1: Twenty twelve was definitely a year of shift from everything.

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Speaker 3: So during this time when you're struggling with your relationship,

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Speaker 3: both with yourself and also with the sport of running,

443
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Speaker 3: do you lean into running or do you kind of

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Speaker 3: find other things as an outlet to help you cope

445
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Speaker 3: with all of these feelings and these emotions that you're

446
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Speaker 3: struggling with.

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Speaker 1: I think at that point I started leaning somewhat into

448
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Speaker 1: other things, other things being my friends, being more intentional about,

449
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Speaker 1: you know, having meaningful relationships. I mean, I think for

450
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Speaker 1: as long as I can remember, I surround myself with

451
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Speaker 1: like minded or like goal people. Spending time with people

452
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Speaker 1: that were headed in a positive direction in their life

453
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Speaker 1: or working on positive things. I think was definitely important.

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Speaker 1: Because I talk about sport being in a place of

455
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Speaker 1: outlet for me, but there is also a fine line

456
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Speaker 1: of sport is actually work too, So sometimes I actually

457
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Speaker 1: need an outlet from it as well. So I think

458
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Speaker 1: that's where a lot of the four hundred meter diva

459
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Speaker 1: thing comes into play. And like me doing my hair

460
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Speaker 1: and makeup, particularly for my competitions, I call it a

461
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Speaker 1: positive distraction. It's something that I do leading up to

462
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't just wear makeup to compete, but

463
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Speaker 1: in those moments, it's a you know, a few minutes

464
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Speaker 1: away from this big thing that I'm getting ready to do,

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Speaker 1: gives me something to do with my hands and just

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Speaker 1: kind of something that makes me feel good.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about the four hundred meter diva thing.

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Speaker 1: So that kind of started with my freshman year of

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Speaker 1: high school of college. Sorry. We were going to pen relays,

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Speaker 1: and being from New York, I've run pen relays all

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Speaker 1: through high school. And then so my coach asked me

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Speaker 1: to do an interview. You know, there's media going into

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Speaker 1: certain me. So the journalist asked me what made me

474
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Speaker 1: choose South Carolina, and so I talked about the history

475
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Speaker 1: of Corner Milers, and then I also said, and you know,

476
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Speaker 1: the girls they're really pretty, and I mean, I guess,

477
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Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, they're just divas. So

478
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Speaker 1: when we went to Philly for pen relays. The headline

479
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Speaker 1: of the story was the Gamecock Divas return to pen Relays.

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Speaker 1: He our coach, Coach Fried took it and ran with it,

481
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Speaker 1: like he had outfits made up with Gamecock divas on them.

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Speaker 1: And they may still to this day call themselves the

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Speaker 1: Gamecock Divas, all right, And so from there, four hundredmin

484
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Speaker 1: a diva came out of that.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: And it seems like, I mean, you like to embody

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Speaker 3: it now. It's also helps amp you up for what

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Speaker 3: you're about to take on. Yeah, would you say it?

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Speaker 2: Would you agree?

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Speaker 1: For sure? I mean, and while it amps me up,

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Speaker 1: I also I tell people, because you know, I went

492
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Speaker 1: through the well you're not if you would spend less

493
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Speaker 1: time focusing on hair and makeup and you would perform better.

494
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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, well, if fifteen minutes is

495
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Speaker 1: the reason why you know I had a bad race

496
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Speaker 1: versus all the hours that I've put in, then you

497
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Speaker 1: know I have a lot bigger issue than that. Also,

498
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Speaker 1: I just feel like if I were working at nine

499
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Speaker 1: to five, you know, there's a part to play. There

500
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Speaker 1: is a dress code for you know, going to work

501
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Speaker 1: every day. My job requires me to be on TV.

502
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Speaker 1: So if I want to look good, what is wrong

503
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Speaker 1: with me dressing the part and looking appropriate? And it's

504
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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's really your damned if you do,

505
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Speaker 1: damned if you don't, because I look at you know

506
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Speaker 1: how Gabby Douglass was treated in the Olympics, and it

507
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Speaker 1: was like there she was focused on her craft and

508
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Speaker 1: focused on going there and winning these medals. And she

509
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Speaker 1: went there and performed amazingly, and people were talking more

510
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Speaker 1: about her hair than about her performance. So it's one

511
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Speaker 1: of those things that people just want to talk and

512
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Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, you just

513
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Speaker 1: have to do what makes you happy and screw the haters.

514
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Speaker 2: Screw the haters.

515
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: Talk to me a little bit more about the challenges

516
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: that go hand in hand with being pro. I mean,

517
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Speaker 3: you dealt with an over came twenty twelve, but then

518
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Speaker 3: as you're getting back into the swing of things, are

519
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Speaker 3: you feeling more pressure than ever to perform after having

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Speaker 3: a difficult year.

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Speaker 1: At that point, I had gotten to a point where

522
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Speaker 1: I was like, well, everyone's counting me out anyway, So

523
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Speaker 1: it was like, there's no way I can get any

524
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Speaker 1: worse as well, you know, So it was just like,

525
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Speaker 1: just focus on you. But then there's also I think

526
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Speaker 1: a level of emotional maturity too, where I have to

527
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Speaker 1: focus on the things that I have control over. You

528
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Speaker 1: know what I don't have control over. It just is

529
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Speaker 1: I was about twenty six twenty seven, so at that

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Speaker 1: point i'd kind of brush that off. But I think

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Speaker 1: as I worked through my self worth and the way

532
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Speaker 1: that I viewed myself in the way that I talked

533
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Speaker 1: to myself, it became more important how I feel about

534
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Speaker 1: myself and not so much what the expectation of the

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Speaker 1: world is.

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Speaker 3: Dailyharvest dot com. Again, that's Dailyharvest dot com. What are

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Speaker 3: some examples of the types of things you start to

558
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Speaker 3: say to yourself versus where you came from with such

559
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: such a negative space, How is that dialogue changing for

560
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Speaker 3: you at this point?

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Speaker 1: So it's first like the second I think something negative,

562
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Speaker 1: I'd change it to positive. But then also I practice

563
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Speaker 1: something that I call my ims, and it literally just

564
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Speaker 1: I'm beautiful, I'm smart, I'm powerful, I'm a champion. And

565
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Speaker 1: some of those things are things that I may not

566
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Speaker 1: even believe yet, but I'm gonna keep saying it until

567
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Speaker 1: I believe it. There are times that I've had them

568
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Speaker 1: written on my mirror. I'd say them in the mo

569
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Speaker 1: morning when I wake up, I say them sometimes that

570
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Speaker 1: if I'm having trouble falling asleep, I say them until

571
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Speaker 1: I fall asleep. I may even do it while I'm

572
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Speaker 1: getting a massage. It's just I guess it's a form

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Speaker 1: of meditation, affirming myself, you know, training myself to think

574
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Speaker 1: and speak positively over myself.

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Speaker 3: So we're in a more positive state of mind and

576
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Speaker 3: things are starting to go well because we're gearing up

577
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Speaker 3: for twenty sixteen. Talk to me about the road to

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, because the conversation points must be working a

579
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Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean from twelve to sixteen was like a

581
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Speaker 1: slow grind back. I won't say to the top, but

582
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Speaker 1: to perform me well, I guess to the top.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, come on, don't give yourself a

584
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Speaker 2: little bit about it.

585
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Speaker 1: Yes, it was just a slow, steady grind of improvement

586
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Speaker 1: over the years. I went from twenty twelve not making

587
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Speaker 1: the team. Twenty thirteen I was national champ, went to

588
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Speaker 1: the World Champs. In my scout. Fifteen was another World

589
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: championship year, not so great. I placed second at Nationals,

590
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Speaker 1: but I didn't make the finals at World Champs. Sixteen

591
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: was like, okay, we're back here at the trials. I'm

592
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Speaker 1: thirty years old again. People are counting me out because

593
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Speaker 1: I'm now thirty years old.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that insane?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? But and it's even more insane because it's a

596
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Speaker 1: conversation that has had about women but not for men.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we start getting that question about retirement

598
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, but my counterparts over there is thirty five,

599
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Speaker 1: and you're not asking him when he's retiring. Twenty sixteen

600
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: was another like it was just a challenging year in

601
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Speaker 1: the sense that I went into the year thinking it

602
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Speaker 1: was it was my year of redemption in the sense of,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously not having made it in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen was an okay year, and then about a

605
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: month before the trials, I get a tweak in my hamstring,

606
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Speaker 1: so then it becomes okay, let's maintain and not make

607
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Speaker 1: this injury any worse. And then it was literally like

608
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Speaker 1: I get to the trials and it's like round by round.

609
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Speaker 1: The first round, I could still feel my hamstring and

610
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm unsure. But you know, at this point,

611
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Speaker 1: I'm working with my therapist and we're still working on,

612
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Speaker 1: you know, the positive affirmations, focusing on the things that

613
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Speaker 1: I have control over. It was a literal round by round,

614
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Speaker 1: and I get to the final and I just decide

615
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Speaker 1: there's no point in taking anything home. I gotta leave

616
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Speaker 1: it all here. So I don't remember anything about the race.

617
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Speaker 1: I just remember.

618
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Speaker 2: Hitting I'm really getting him now, all right.

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Speaker 1: I just remember hitting the ground after the race, because

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Speaker 1: I had literally run until the wheels fell off, Like

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Speaker 1: I ran to the point where my legs were like

622
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Speaker 1: I have nothing left, and I literally fell to the ground.

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Speaker 4: I wish this was ideo podcast. I know, Hi, I

624
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Speaker 4: can't wait till you speak real words. You were my

625
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Speaker 4: youngest guests ever. Oh my god, he's.

626
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Speaker 2: Like a namord.

627
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Speaker 1: I remember I was working with I told Bolden at

628
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Speaker 1: the time, and he said to me after the race,

629
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Speaker 1: he said, why did you dive for the finish line?

630
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Speaker 1: You were on the team and I said, I did

631
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Speaker 1: not dive for anything like that was literally my legs

632
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Speaker 1: that were like we have nothing left were done and

633
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Speaker 1: I fell to the ground and everyone else knew I

634
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Speaker 1: made the team. And I remember laying there on the

635
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Speaker 1: ground waiting looking up at the scoreboard, waiting for my

636
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Speaker 1: name to pop up because I literally blacked out. I

637
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Speaker 1: didn't know what happened in the race where I was nothing.

638
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Speaker 1: So when the three popped up next to my name,

639
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Speaker 1: it was like I think I remember yelling like because

640
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: it was just like all of this pent up emotion

641
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Speaker 1: that finally it was like I'd been through all of

642
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Speaker 1: this to get here to this moment and finally, and

643
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Speaker 1: but there's there's that feeling, but then there's also the

644
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Speaker 1: feeling of it's not over, like I still had to

645
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Speaker 1: go to Rio. All of these exciting emotions, but also

646
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Speaker 1: knowing that the road was still long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because it's like it's you work so

648
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Speaker 3: hard to get to this moment where you are going

649
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Speaker 3: to the Olympics, and for that to kind of be

650
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Speaker 3: like your first thought like did you feel like you

651
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Speaker 3: took enough time to celebrate even the accomplishment, which was

652
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Speaker 3: getting back into getting back to where you had wanted

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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 1: No, and we never do. Even after winning the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: it's like onto the next So it does become like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have your media tour and you're doing

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Speaker 1: all of this stuff, but then you've got coach, like,

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Speaker 1: all right, training starts in six weeks. There's no time

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Speaker 1: to kind of take.

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Speaker 3: It in when you reflect on that period or like

661
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: other similar occasions in your life where like really big

662
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: exciting things happen. Do you find a theme in that

663
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: that you don't take the time to celebrate, like this thing.

664
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Speaker 1: Absolutely all the time. And actually, I don't know if

665
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: I can bring this up or how much you've shared.

666
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: But when we did the panel yesterday with Teddy and

667
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: I was listening to him and I was like, you know,

668
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: he's this the winningest judo fighter, but he's like, man,

669
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: I just want one more gold medal. I just want

670
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: one more And I heard it in his voice where

671
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: it's like and it's not a bad thing, but it's

672
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: a thing where you know, we always say if I

673
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: just get this one thing, when I just achieved this

674
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: one thing, when I just do this thing, then I'll

675
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: be happy no, cause you're going to get there and

676
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: then it's going to be like, Okay, I did it,

677
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: Now on to the next. And it's this thing that

678
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: as athletes, I think especially, we kind of we fall

679
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: into that where it's like Okay, yeah, I need to

680
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: get this medal, I need to get on this team.

681
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: But as soon as you do that, then it's like okay,

682
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: now that I have that have to go on to doing.

683
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: This what feels like the most critical aspect of your training.

684
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: Is it the physical? Is it the mental? Like where

685
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: are you at during this cycle?

686
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: Definitely the mental preparation was one that I was very

687
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: keen on in from several aspects of you know, going

688
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: back to you know, staying on the things that I

689
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: had control over, but also being aware of where I

690
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: was and what I was there to do. I was

691
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: there on a mission. I was there to win some

692
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: more medals, get on the podium, but also having the

693
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: wherewithal that like I'm at the Olympics, I'm here with

694
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: special friends, special training partners, my family was there, so

695
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, even taking the time to be intentional about

696
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: having those moments was another thing that was important for

697
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: me because I got to about twenty six twenty seven

698
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: years old, and I took a look at my passport

699
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: and saw all these great places that I've been to,

700
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: and that's the memory that I have of the places

701
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: that I've been to, was that simply I've been there.

702
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: I have the stamps in my passport, So you know,

703
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to be intentional about being in Rio, being

704
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: with loved ones while also being there for one of

705
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: the greatest things in my life to compete in the Olympics.

706
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: So it was more and that is a comparison that

707
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: I like to make between sixteen and eight was I

708
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: guess that lends to my emotional maturity in terms of,

709
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, what I was there for, and understanding the

710
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: level of how many people go to the Olympics, you know,

711
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: and just being in gratitude in that sense.

712
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: I mean it worked.

713
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the gratitude strategy seemed to work a lot

714
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: more than less self defeatist strategy, right exactly. Gold being

715
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: on the podium, I love like that. It's like an

716
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 3: instant smile on your face. Yeah yeah, I mean it's

717
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: something obviously no one will ever like. You'll never forget.

718
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: That, never. And it's again comparing the two experiences. In

719
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, I only ran the preliminary around

720
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: of the four by four, so I was not on

721
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: the podium. So I'm Olympic gold medalist two thousand and eight,

722
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: but the experience was a lot different. And so being

723
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: able to stand on the podium hearing the national anthem

724
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: in my honor, or in myself and my teammates honor,

725
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: being able to look out in the stands and see

726
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: my mom and my grandparents and my brother and seeing

727
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: how excited and proud they were of me. No, that's

728
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: a moment that Yeah, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it.

729
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: Hopefully I lived out again this summer.

730
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: Do you take the time to celebrate that moment?

731
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: I wish I did. I wish I did. While I

732
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, having been in the moment there,

733
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: things just went into I mean, the season wasn't over.

734
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: I still had meets after the Olympics, and then once

735
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: the meats were over, then there was you know, this

736
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: appearance and that appearance, and so no, I didn't really.

737
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: Do you think you'll learn come twenty twenty, I think so.

738
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: I hope so. And especially now with my son, there

739
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: are moments that I especially want to have with him.

740
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I'll slow down and have those moments

741
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: with him.

742
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about your son for a beat then, Okay,

743
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: five months old. It was, as you've spoken out about,

744
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: like something that you weren't really ready for just yet.

745
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: How do you feel now that you have him? And

746
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 3: do you believe that it happened for a reason this way?

747
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was saying this morning, I was telling someone

748
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: that I went through all of these emotions like why

749
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: now I really want to be a mom, but just

750
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: not right now? What does this mean for my training?

751
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: I hated pregnancy. I was so tired, I had morning sickness.

752
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: But when my son came, I'm thirty three, and I

753
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: looked at him and I was like, man, why did

754
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: I wait this long to have you? And even through

755
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: like the hard days of him, like crying a lot,

756
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: and I think he was a little bit collicky in

757
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: his first month. I can't wait to have another one.

758
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely done something to me, and I

759
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: can attest to I was that girl that was like, yeah,

760
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to have kids, but my kids aren't going

761
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: to run my life. I'm not going to be that mom.

762
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: My kid's not going to watch TV. He's five months

763
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: already watching TV. It keeps you quiet, all right? Go ahead.

764
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: When women say motherhood does something to you, it really does.

765
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: It really does. Talk to me about the hurdle of

766
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: getting back into training. I mean, obviously five months old,

767
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: it hasn't been that long, and you have a big

768
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: year coming up.

769
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's something I'm still going through. So talk

770
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: about just the only way is through.

771
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

772
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: It was humbling. I mean, he was born a month early,

773
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: and I found myself on the delivery table like, okay,

774
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: he's here a month early. That means I get to

775
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: start a month early.

776
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? That's where your head's at at this time.

777
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: Where my head went, like and it all happened so fast.

778
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: I wish we had time to talk about my birth story.

779
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: Like I almost had him on the couch. I didn't

780
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: even know I was in labor. Yeah, I was just like,

781
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: can't wait to get back on the track. My doctor

782
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: was like, you know, you were fit before your pregnancy,

783
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: you were fit through your pregnancy, so I think you

784
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: can start as soon as three weeks afterwards. I was

785
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: ready to go. My coaches were like, uh no, you

786
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: have to heal. And then so I started out walking

787
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: and then I started jogging. And then when I finally

788
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: got back to the track with my teammates, then it

789
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: was humbling because it was like I was excited to walk,

790
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: I was excited to jog. I could feel the difference.

791
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: I could feel that like I had a long way

792
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: to go, But getting back out there with my training

793
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: partners was like, oh, you have a long way to go.

794
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: And then there was the day that we had repeat

795
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: five hundreds and I get to about four hundred and

796
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: I start feeling this trickling feeling and I'm like, what

797
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: the heck is this push through? And then finally I

798
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm grown as hell. I'm not about

799
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: to pee myself. And I was peeing myself. So there

800
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: were all of these things that like, there's so many

801
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: things that moms tell you, but there are so many

802
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: things that they don't tell you.

803
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 3: I see a tell all books like in Your Future Man.

804
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's been a humbling journey, and I

805
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: think being able to maintain a level of sense of

806
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: humor about it too has been helpful because it's like, yeah,

807
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: a thirty three year old grown ass woman beeing myself

808
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: and I have no control over it, Like okay, but

809
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: it's been a slow, steady grind there, you know. Just

810
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: as recently as last week, I had a workout where

811
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, she's in there, she's coming there there.

812
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: There was definitely, though, probably about a month and a

813
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: half where I was like, oooh, I don't know what

814
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: we signed up for, Like I knew it was gonna

815
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: be hard.

816
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: But man, oh man, would you say that being a

817
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: mom has the potential to make you a better athlete?

818
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: I think so. And I see it in the sense

819
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: that it's already forced me to be way more intentional

820
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: about my time. And you know, it's everything from it's

821
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: great to get up in the morning and go to

822
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: work because it's it's a space for me to be Natasha.

823
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: It's a space for me to be, you know, not mom.

824
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: But I have to be incredibly intentional about that time

825
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: in terms of getting the job done in that time,

826
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: because when that time is over, I'm like, all right, guys,

827
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta get home to my kid,

828
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to get home to him. So

829
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: it's made me focus in a way that time is

830
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: definitely I mean, I live by the clock, but now

831
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, now I really have to get

832
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: the job done within a certain time. And then also

833
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: the way that I focus on my training. Where once

834
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: upon a time I could just go out there and

835
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: just Okay, this is what we're doing, go do it.

836
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: That'd be that. Now it's kind of like, oh, I

837
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: got to focus on this keegel and this smaller muscle

838
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: that I didn't even know that I had that I've

839
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: now lost to strengthen because I pushed the baby out.

840
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: You know, I've found myself refocusing in those smaller areas

841
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: that once upon a time I took advantage of.

842
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 3: And I mean, I feel like it's got to be

843
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: interesting now after having a baby. You talked about the

844
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: pressures that go hand in hand with being a professional athlete,

845
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: and I can't imagine that you can even allow them

846
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: to come into your space the same way now because

847
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: you're a different person than you were before you had

848
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: a kid.

849
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, the it's this journey now is

850
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: an interesting one because it's a very personal one in

851
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: the sense that I want to prove to myself what

852
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm made of and prove to myself that, you know,

853
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: I didn't let a circumstance just end things for me.

854
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: I didn't let becoming a mom be the reason why

855
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, I'm done. And I as much

856
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: as it's a personal one for me, I hope that

857
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: no matter the outcome, it's an example for other moms

858
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: out there that regardless of what your walk of life is,

859
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: regardless of what your career is there's a.

860
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: Way a lot of people.

861
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: They come to your Instagram page, they see a fabulous

862
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: diva mom that is ready to, you know, take on

863
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 3: a big o and big year. Here when you look

864
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: in the mirror, what is it that you see looking

865
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: back at you?

866
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: I see someone that wants to be vulnerable, because when

867
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: you say all of those things about my Instagram, that

868
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: is something that I feel like. There's strength and vulnerability

869
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: and I try my best to be honest. That's why

870
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm sharing that I peed myself. I haven't peed myself lately,

871
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: but you know, I want people to know that it's

872
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: not easy. And while I may put some makeup on

873
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: and I may make it look easy, there is a

874
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: struggle there is there. There are bad days. There are

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Speaker 1: days that I question myself. There are days that I'm

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Speaker 1: just going after your goals and your dreams. I see

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Speaker 2: What excites you right now?

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Speaker 1: It excites me and scares me at the same time

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Speaker 1: as the unknown. You know, the unknown is scary. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about where my life is going and

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Speaker 1: where my son's life is going at this point and

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Speaker 1: just being able to see him grow into a respectable

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Speaker 1: young man that respects women. Yeah, the unknown, the unknown.

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Speaker 3: I also find that we can't close out this podcast

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Speaker 1: Yep, it's per perfect.

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Speaker 3: Final question, you have an opportunity right now to offer

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Speaker 3: the Natasha in twenty twelve, who is like doubting everything,

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Speaker 3: one piece of advice going through that hurdle moment. What

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Speaker 3: is it that you tell her right now?

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Speaker 1: Be careful how you're speaking to yourself. You have to

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Speaker 1: love yourself before anyone else can love you. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's not even about track, that's just life. It's just yourself.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Thanks so much for sitting down with me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Please take a moment and leave a quick review by

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Speaker 3: clicking the link with the description of this episode. We

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Speaker 3: all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear

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Speaker 3: about yours. Reach Out to me at Emily at hurdle

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Speaker 3: dot us, connect with the podcast Instagram, Twitter at Hurdle Podcast. Natasha,

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Speaker 3: where do they find you? How do they keep up

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Speaker 3: with you? If they can even try?

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Speaker 1: Everything is Natasha Hastings Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.

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Speaker 3: There we go. That's the rundown. I am at Emily Abodi.

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Speaker 3: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.