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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: this is the drive on the Steelers Audio Network. This

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Speaker 3: is the start of our number two and as such

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Speaker 3: we will do with the little fantasy football focus here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, take a look at who is in and who

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Speaker 3: is out in practices today. Josh Downs with that shorter

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Speaker 3: injury upgraded to a full participant Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Coming off of buye. I'm a fan. I own him

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Speaker 1: in a bunch of leagues too, but I'm a fan.

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Speaker 1: I like his I like him as a player quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. Is he a definite starter with Richardson though? No?

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Speaker 1: Probably top thirty six? Hmm man, there's no buys and

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, well through the bye weeks now, so

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Speaker 3: it's kind of it's nice when you start looking at

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Speaker 3: stats now because everybody's equal.

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Speaker 1: I know, everybody's on equal footing. I was. That's a

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Speaker 1: big thing I always pay attention to, like when I

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Speaker 1: do my stat packed. But they lead the league and

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Speaker 1: sound like well, they didn't never to buy yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's only weak.

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Speaker 3: They said, And they played a game more than everybody.

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Speaker 1: Right right, I mean I'm more like sacks per game

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Speaker 1: and things like that. And now I now it's all

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Speaker 3: Aaron Jones with a back limited today. He's dealt with hip, hamstring,

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Speaker 3: chests and rib issues this season.

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Speaker 1: He's had a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah, they need him,

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Speaker 1: and I would imagine they're just going to try to

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Speaker 1: keep him in bubble wrapp until kickoff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wonder how much he you know, if they try

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Speaker 3: to load manage a little bit there with makers. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara with an illness, did not practice Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've been kind of wondering how much longer are

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Speaker 1: they going to beat him up? They just invested in him.

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Speaker 1: They have some hope with Kendre Miller. I don't think

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Speaker 1: their offense is gonna be good today. The car might play,

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Speaker 1: which that doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 3: Shock, he was absent from practice today. He's not playing.

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Speaker 3: He's got a quarterback, he's in a concussion protocol, and

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Speaker 3: he's got a broken left hand, and he didn't he

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Speaker 3: wasn't there today, so he's not playing.

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Speaker 1: Today. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Stefan Gilmour with a hamstring listed as a d

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Speaker 1: Okay, they're not super deep at corner, but they're not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's had a good year for them.

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Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors limited again on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised he played last week, as.

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Speaker 3: It's another situation with one of those young players limited

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Speaker 3: during the week. Mike Tomlin wouldn't play him, right unless

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Speaker 3: you get back and have a full participation, because you

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Speaker 3: they I don't think he practiced at all last week.

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Speaker 1: No, so don't rule him out though for fantasy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he also has bad quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Cocher with a quad was a full participant Thursday

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Speaker 3: for the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Interesting he led the Cowboys's That's not a bad fantasy

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Speaker 1: spot there. There'll be fantasy points around. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Tony Pollard not practice again on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I know. I think Spears is very startable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, keep that in mind when we do our DFS

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Speaker 3: right they put the prices.

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Speaker 1: Prices are out there.

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Speaker 3: Uh No, David and Joku again today for the Cleveland Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns doesn't look like it doesn't look good.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of targets missing from them though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They kind of and what's his face? Aikins isn't a

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Speaker 1: Oh, they think they announced it's the veto. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I think that came out yesterday. Yeah, Yeah, not good.

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Speaker 1: Tristan Wurf's with foot and knee issues. Not spotted to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sterling Shepherd and non participant on Thursday. He's been

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Speaker 1: Yeah, McMillan stepped up. But they're all trying to be Godwin,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bucky Irving not practicing Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Would you call Godwin? This offseason? Through the Steelers, everyone's

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Speaker 1: talking about Higgins. I'm like, expensive Higgins is going to be.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get thirty plus million a year. Hatriots and

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Speaker 3: So yeah, he was didn't practice yesterday with that either.

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Speaker 3: So who they played?

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Speaker 1: They have an easy game this week, right, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: Like all of a sudden, there's some key guys.

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Speaker 3: They play Carolina this week, I think they do.

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Speaker 1: No, Caroline is favorite against Dallas. That's right, that's the

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Speaker 1: first time Caroline has been favored.

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Speaker 3: I know who they played them? Yeah, I should we

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Speaker 3: went through it earlier this week, but obviously didn't care.

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Speaker 3: Rashawn Johnson with a concussion did not practice on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Who's left out of that group. Herbert's now in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, if only one plays, you're kind of happy

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Speaker 3: I'm not super excited about playing any Bears though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh boy, Travis Homer's out there.

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Speaker 3: Uh no, Tron Armstead, he's dealing with the knee injury.

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Speaker 3: Luke Musgrave practiced on Thursday. He still has to be activated.

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Speaker 1: Playoffs, playoffs, You gotta start thinking that way though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just looking here, anybody else at Brest Hall seeing

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Speaker 3: it practice on Thursday. Status remains unclear.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's good news for him. I'm not

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Speaker 3: Uh No, DeVante Adams at practice on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: For the Jets. Yuck. I mean Wilson would get a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cedric Tollman practiced today. That's back to back days.

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Speaker 3: He still has to get cleared. Yeah, the concussion. But

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Speaker 3: I always feel for those dudes that go a couple

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Speaker 3: rough couple of weeks. Yeah, that's kind of pretty much

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Speaker 1: Let's put together a little DFS lineup for one for tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of options here in this game

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Speaker 3: against This should be some points scored, you get the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh So for looking at a captain m Pooka, the

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Speaker 3: Kuas sixteen to five, Kyron Williams fifteen to three, Cooper

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Speaker 3: Cup fifteen thousand, Rock Perdy fourteen.

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Speaker 1: To one is more expensive than Stafford. He'll run a

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Speaker 1: little bit more, definitely. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But it's interesting that Cup and the Coour are ahead

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Speaker 1: And as say, the quarterbacks are pretty low down the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, next Stafford's thirteen to five one. Jennings is twelve nine.

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Speaker 3: That's the first Sam pass catcher. Yeah, Grendo is twelve six.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Taylor, he said he's planning on playing, on playing,

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Speaker 3: so really okay. George Kittle twelve thousand, I'm bad Deebo

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Speaker 3: Then we'll get to the backup quarterbacks don't want to

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Speaker 3: do any of that. Then you get to Jake Moody

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Speaker 3: at seventy eight hundred. Cardy, the Rams kicker at seventy

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Speaker 1: I mean for captain's chair stuff. Do we want to

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Speaker 3: You get the forty nine the defense at six thousand,

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Speaker 3: you get the Rams defense at fifty four hundred.

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Speaker 1: I can't see putting them in the captain's chair though. No.

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Speaker 1: My two favorites are Kittle and Stafford Kittles.

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Speaker 3: Kittles at twelve thousand, I think it gives you more flexibility.

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Speaker 3: He might be pretty chalky at twelve thousand, cheaper than

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Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings. History shows when they're just short on receivers,

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Speaker 3: that's where they go. Yeah, the Rams are twentieth against

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Speaker 3: opposed ends. Yeah, I think you put kitt On. I'm

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Speaker 3: fine with that kid on the captain chair. That allows

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Speaker 3: us to average seventy six one hundred the rest of

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Speaker 1: So many cheapies we should think about.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking there now. Ricky Pirosol is forty eight hundred.

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Speaker 3: He's been really quiet, he's been super quiet. Keishawn Vaughan

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Speaker 3: thirty four hundred, Blake Korm thirty two hundred. Israel Abaconda

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Speaker 1: Not bad. I was thinking, like, Robinson are aut? What is?

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Speaker 3: Two two had three catches for forty five yards in

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Speaker 1: That's not bad. Yeah, Martinus Robinson still in the mix, right, yeah?

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Speaker 3: Two two in his last uh well, over the last

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Speaker 3: going to take a zero there probably? Uh you check

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Speaker 3: is two thousand. Colby Parkinson sixteen hundred. Uh Parkinson eh

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Speaker 3: one target for eleven yards last week, one for thirteen,

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Speaker 3: two for ten, one for nineteen.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't get enough action, really, slow. Yeah, middle year

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Speaker 1: he was better off. That's when the receivers are out.

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Speaker 1: Ty Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't get quite enough to uh to warrant putting.

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Speaker 1: Him in pretty deep. Yeah, that's you know, put two

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Speaker 1: two in the lineup just to give us some bucks

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Speaker 1: to spend. Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think that's some kind of cheap It's a twenty

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Speaker 1: At least you'll probably catch a couple. He might catch

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Speaker 3: Now we can average eighty eight fifty the rest of

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Speaker 3: the way, and so you're getting the coup at eleven

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Speaker 3: Kian Williams is ten two, Cup is ten thousand, Perty

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Speaker 3: So Jake Moody is fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 3: Cardy is five thousand, the forty nine Ers defense is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Moody's been better at home. Moody's thirteen and thirteen

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 3: He's seven of thirteen on the road. So yeah, Cardi

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Speaker 1: Everything? He hasn't been there kicker all season? Has he? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: They don't kick many field goals. He's got three field

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Speaker 3: is he's won for three yikes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Moody it is. Yeah, Yeah, that's not so great.

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Speaker 1: You've made one field goal in four weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh boy, Yeah, that's not great.

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Speaker 1: So that gets up.

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Speaker 3: We can average ten just a little over ten thousand

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Speaker 3: Karen Williams ten too, Cooper Cup is ten thousand. On

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Speaker 3: nine thousand. I definitely want to get Stafford in there. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Stafford's on there. We got ten six, then we can

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Speaker 1: Last last two spots. Yeah's your faves.

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Speaker 3: We got Naku at eleven thousand, Karen Williams is ten

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the coup is hard to pass up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cooper Cuppa is ten thousand, Party is ninety four hundred.

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Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings eighty six hundred. Is Kittle the only offensive

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Speaker 3: Niner we have? Yes, Okay, what would we have left

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Speaker 3: over if we took Nakua, then you would have ten

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Speaker 3: get Karan Williams is ten too. Cooper cup has ten thousand,

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Speaker 1: Wh You like how those three.

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Speaker 3: Karen Williams gets a ton of touches, he does, and

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Speaker 3: he scores.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a short week and so maybe they shorten

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Speaker 3: to have both quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we would be eating a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Well, we could pay up instead of having Kittle in

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Speaker 3: the Captain's chair. Can we put Stafford in? Maybe we

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Speaker 3: go Stafford in the captains. Maybe we go one of

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Speaker 1: Chair and the normal the norn captain.

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Speaker 3: Stafford is the cheaper of the quarterbacks, and ye would

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Speaker 3: do that. I just screwed it up barely. So captain's chair.

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Speaker 3: If we go Stafford at thirteen to five, you get

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Speaker 3: two two out well, Jake Moody, you got a two

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Speaker 3: cheap guys.

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Speaker 1: Throw Kittle in there.

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Speaker 3: Kittle is under budget, he is eight thousand, and that

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Speaker 3: leads us ninety seven hundred to spend. That would get

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Speaker 3: us party. It's ninety four hundred. I like that, And

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Speaker 3: that would give us a lineup of Stafford to too

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Speaker 3: out well, Jake Moody, George Kittle, pooka Nakua and Brock

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Speaker 1: Nice. So even if cup blows up, we get a

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Speaker 1: portion of it. Yeah right, and we should we have

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Speaker 1: three hundred left over. Nothing's worth jumping up. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine the defenses weren't more expensive than.

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Speaker 3: Two two aut well paying up from two two out

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Speaker 3: well at twenty six hundred. I doubt that don't get

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Speaker 3: us much is not going to get us. Anybody is

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Speaker 3: paying up for Moody, get us anywhere paying up for

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Speaker 3: Moody is probably let's say get us. Nope, that's just okay.

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Speaker 1: I'd even get you.

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Speaker 3: Like the quorum Nope, okay, quorum is actually lower than

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Speaker 3: that and what he had cast korms thirty two hundred.

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Speaker 1: I like our bill better, but I was going to

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Speaker 1: consider on a short week putting Ky in and Quorum

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Speaker 1: in that maybe they would like Hi.

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Speaker 3: I mean, korm still got eight carries for thirty four

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Speaker 3: yards on Sunday. He just didn't catch any passes. Is

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Speaker 3: he cheaper than that one, No, he's a little bit

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Speaker 3: more expensive. He's thirty two hundred. At Well is twenty

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Speaker 3: six hundred. We have to we have to find three

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars somewhere else. I don't hate it.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So again, that's Matthew Stafford in the captain's chair like that.

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Speaker 3: Because you get a point and a half for every

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Speaker 1: That's he's gonna be huge right now.

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Speaker 3: Two two at Well twenty six hundred, Jake Moody fifty

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Speaker 3: Purty at ninety four hundred.

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Speaker 1: Whoka iss gonna be a first round pick next year? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's like the top five receiver.

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Speaker 3: He scares me a little bit though. He's always dealing

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Speaker 1: Oh he's so physical too, Like yeah, back to the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Do you take him over a J. Brown? If your

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna lock that one in up, locking

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Speaker 3: it in that should be a winner win chicking dinner.

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Speaker 3: That might be a little chalky, but to two outwall

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Speaker 1: I always think about who the cheap guy is that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Moody's fine.

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Speaker 1: I probably he's going to get his points. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: you just need you need this to not be a

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Speaker 1: Right, we'd still have a piece of it, but we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're you know, so anyways, that's the uh, this

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Speaker 1: We're to get to a break. I wonder if a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get through a break. He's Matt Williamson. I

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Speaker 3: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back with

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Speaker 3: more right after this.

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Speaker 2: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and Matt I thought we'd take a

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Speaker 3: look at the Quarterback Index.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's cool. Actually we did it last week, but

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Speaker 1: we didn't do it for several weeks there.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's germane to the conversation when we

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Speaker 3: were talking about Jalen Hurts versus Russell Wi.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is yeah.

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Speaker 3: Nick Schook's rankings on NFL dot Com. At thirty two,

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Speaker 3: he had Drew Locke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now it could be the veto and I bet

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Speaker 1: he's thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Next week he might be thirty eight. Yeah at a

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Speaker 3: thirty two. Uh, thirty one is Cooper Rush?

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Speaker 1: I will say this year compared to the last few, by

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Speaker 1: about this time, there was about eight Yeah, the Vetos

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Speaker 3: It hasn't been his bags and yeah, it hasn't been

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Speaker 3: Is that a little Rush rough on Cooper Rush?

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean if they're played okay, yeah you can,

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Speaker 3: Uh at thirty unranked last week is Mac Jones.

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Speaker 3: I guess Cooper Rush has been better than Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: Jones has never done it for me. I mean he

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Speaker 3: Know, two touchdown passes five interceptions, Like, wow, come on, man,

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Speaker 3: I don't know is that bad? Rush is seven touchdown

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Speaker 1: Sure, but Brian Thomas doesn't stay right. Yeah. Yeah, Mac

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Speaker 3: Garbage thing, right, yeah, they just ran the ball. You

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Speaker 3: Uh, it was like justin playing Madden. At twenty nine

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Speaker 1: He's growing on me a little bit. I don't think

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Speaker 3: I think it's a major probably a long time backup.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight down three spots, Will Levis he had a

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Speaker 1: That's a tough one. What do you do in the offseason,

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Speaker 1: you know, I draft a quarterbacks that might have bringing

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Speaker 3: I would draft a quarterback. I'm not you're not married

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Speaker 1: No, and he could still hang around, compete.

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Speaker 3: He's still has seven touchdown passes this year in nine games,

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Speaker 1: I prefer mad to Richardson, He's got a lot less

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Speaker 3: forty turnover worthy plays.

441
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: Forty turnovers. Yeah yeah, let alone ones that didn't get

442
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: picked off. Yeah right, that's not good. Ohumble.

443
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 3: The Lord did not deliver him from that that year

444
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 3: a whole up at twenty four, down three spots, Derek Carr.

445
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 3: That's a little rough, a little harder. That's a pretty

446
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 3: well starter.

447
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 1: Yeah.

448
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 3: At twenty three, down three spots, Jameis Winston.

449
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 1: I mean he's a roller. We've talked about him so

450
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 1: much in the last month. I'm fine with that. Yeah.

451
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 3: At twenty six, at twenty two, up six spots is

452
00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,479
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers.

453
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: Okay, she's recent. I'd take Car over Rodgers. I take

454
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: Winston over Rogers. He doesn't want to get hit. He

455
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: only I was listening a deep dive on him. I mean,

456
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: he's run the same play as his whole career, and

457
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: the whole world knows it, and he hasn't adapted and

458
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: that's decades. Yeah, it's not good. No, it makes the

459
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: same adjustments to the line, like it's all his way.

460
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 3: At twenty one up two spots c J Stroud.

461
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 1: I mean I'd take him over all those guys, of course,

462
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: and I don't blame him for a lot, but he

463
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: hasn't played well. He hasn't played great. It's another one

464
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: coming off of buy what's the last month look like

465
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs for him? That's pivotal to me.

466
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 3: At twenty down four spots, Caleb Williams.

467
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: That's too high. He still takes a ton of sacks

468
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 1: that are on him.

469
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not throwing interceptions, but he's also not throwing

470
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 3: touchdown pass. I don't know about have him over Drake

471
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 3: May Yeah, I mean the overall season has been you know,

472
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 3: if you just look at the stats, has been better

473
00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: because again.

474
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 1: It's real offensive linemen and real receivers.

475
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 3: But they you know, they scored six points when it

476
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: mattered last week. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's been They they

477
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: don't win on the road.

478
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: They just don't don't do that. That's bizarro. At nineteen

479
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: holding Steady oo Nicks, he should be ahead of the

480
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: other rookies. Yeah yeah.

481
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 3: At eighteen down a spot, Jalen Hurts Fair.

482
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes he's Rogers and cousins and hurts that you

483
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: had high hopes for. You have to be real about

484
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: it and be like, that's not how they're playing.

485
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: Thirteen games, he's completing sixty eight percent of his passes,

486
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: but for only twenty six hundred yards, so he's barely

487
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 3: averaging two hundred.

488
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: Yards a game. Yeah, they're not pushing the ball on

489
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: the field. They're not pushing the ball down the field.

490
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: He is averaging eight yards per attempt, but they don't

491
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: throw the ball and he's completing a high percentage.

492
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: So that's where the new had some numbers too about

493
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, very few deep completions, you know, twenty yard plus, Yeah,

494
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: they're not there.

495
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: Only the five interceptions, five hundred and forty four rushing yards,

496
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: thirteen rushing touchdowns, eight fumbles.

497
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: That could be something, yeah, this week.

498
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: If you can get him, it gets him to put

499
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: the ball on the ground a couple of times, and

500
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 3: we know the Steelers are good at that.

501
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: That could be the key to this game. The most

502
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: stripped sacked of all the quarties one of yeah, and

503
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: the Steelers are the best of that.

504
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: So keep an eye on that this week. That could

505
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: be a very critical factor in this week's game.

506
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: For some reason Eagles don't recover fumbles well either. Yeah,

507
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: it's the ground. They they do not practice everybody run away,

508
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: but they have really low fumble percentage, like a hand grenade.

509
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: Everybody at seventeen up, five spots. Bryce Young, Wow, okay,

510
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: I can live with that, maybe a little kind. The

511
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 3: overall numbers don't look because before they've got but if

512
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: you look at the recent numbers, he's played well, he

513
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 3: played Jalen Hurts last week.

514
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was about to say, I don't have

515
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: any problem with him being ahead of Hurts.

516
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: If Xavier Leget holds onto that ball a third down, they.

517
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: Will a whole different stories game. The game's over sixteen down,

518
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: four spots. Kyler Murray, he should be kind of drifting down.

519
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean he shouldn't.

520
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: He's almost the same as hers right now in that

521
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: I could see that sixty eight point four percent completion percentage.

522
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: So he's completing a lot of passes. Thirteen games, twenty

523
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: eight hundred and sixty two passing years, so he's thrown

524
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: for a few more yards, but fifteen touchdown passes, eight interceptions.

525
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: He's run for four hundred and forty four or four

526
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns. Seven fumbles, not as much splashes.

527
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.

528
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: They're almost managing, turning these guys into game managers.

529
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: Now. People always a blame Cliff Kingsbury for Cliff's Cliff,

530
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: you know that you hit the wall at the end

531
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: of the season. But I think a lot of that

532
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: was those Cardinal teams. Everyone of the team was tiny.

533
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: They had like markis Brown and Rondel Moore and Kyler Murray.

534
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I think that the toll of the

535
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: season beats up his little body a little bit, a

536
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: little bit.

537
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one thing about Russell Wilson thick. I

538
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: mean he is is he's built like a running back,

539
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: well built. Yeah, he has built like a running back.

540
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: He's not built like a typical quarterback.

541
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: No, you would think he's a running back or a

542
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: safety or you know, something like that.

543
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: If he were six or five like Ben Roethlisberger, Russell

544
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: Wilson with Cam Newton or Russell Wilson would weigh two

545
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty pounds.

546
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he is big.

547
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a big, thick dude, like rocked up

548
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: right yeah, uh fifteen down four spots.

549
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, I can't remember what he did this past week.

550
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: They would Dingham, but he's up.

551
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: He's up to thirteen interceptions in twelve fumbles.

552
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he turns the ball over to He's still probably

553
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: always well.

554
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he still has that gene, the T gene.

555
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: It's gonna never leave him either. No, I don't think so.

556
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just kind of he's he's a gun slinger, yeah,

557
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: James Winston.

558
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: But he's not far. You know, if you're a gun slinger,

559
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: the negatives can wear you down. At fourteen to Attago Vailoa,

560
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with I always played lately. I

561
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: might even have him higher, but there's some good quarterback

562
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: play going on right now. Yeah, be ahead of.

563
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: Him thirteen down four spots Jaden Daniels.

564
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I would have too ahead of.

565
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: Them at twelve down four spots.

566
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert not playing with a whole heck of a

567
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: lot at the moment. He isn't some injuries, but this

568
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: hasn't been glorious either. He missed that big throw down

569
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: the middle.

570
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one if you're if you're a top quarterback

571
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 3: in the league and you've got a guy running wide

572
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: open down the middle of the field, you got to

573
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: put it on.

574
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: Him, no doubt, no doubt. That has to be a hundred,

575
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: one hundred. Yeah, Palmer's he is hard enough to manufacture

576
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: offense those.

577
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm sure that's something that they had

578
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: schemed up all week long. And then you over thrown

579
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: by ten yards.

580
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was bad.

581
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: Eleven up, four spots, Gino Smith, Hey, he's having a

582
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: good year. Blocking's not great. Yeah, that might be a

583
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: little rich for me, but he's still only got fourteen times.

584
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: He's a fourteen to twelve touchdown to interception ratio.

585
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: That's not I got no problem with him being over Baker,

586
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: But like I might have two ahead of him. I

587
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: think I would. Yeah, i'd have Herbert ahead of him.

588
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: I definitely have Herbert. Yeah.

589
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: At ten down three spots, Russell Wilson.

590
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: He didn't put up huge numbers. I don't know if

591
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: it's enough to ding him three spots, but he was

592
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: ahead of them. I'm glad he's ahead of Hurts. I

593
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: think that's fair.

594
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: At nine up nine spots. Rock Purty, Yeah, I mean

595
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: they lit up.

596
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if I reward him that much for

597
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: doing that to the Bears team with a new coach.

598
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: That was a position coach too.

599
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: Put it this way, We've seen what Rock Party looks

600
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: like without his top guys on the field. You take

601
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson's top guy off the field, and he still

602
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: won the football game.

603
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

604
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: When you do that with Brock Purty, they don't win

605
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 3: the football game.

606
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: No, I mean just that. That was more about the

607
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: Bears and the Niners. Yeah, that was the other thing.

608
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: They haven't wont to.

609
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: Bears haven't won a game on the road this year.

610
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: They got they didn't win a game. They haven't won

611
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: a Sunday road game in like three years really on

612
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: a Sunday.

613
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: So they happen to have a Thursday or Monday in

614
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: there where they did win on their right. Okay, that's it.

615
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you need to examine like your travel schedule and

616
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: how you do everything and your walkthroughs and go back

617
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: to the drawing board.

618
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: It ate up two spots. Sam Darnold, Yeah, I don't

619
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: know how real it is. I don't trust it at all.

620
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: I don't trust But he's playing really well and he's producing.

621
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: Next stop you throw them with the Giants next? Yeah, Aludd,

622
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: you don't have Justin Jefferson. You don't have you know

623
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: O'Connell seven and down a spot.

624
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Love maybe a little kind to him too, But

625
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who I put over him. I probably

626
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: have heard it over him still, but he's been a

627
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: little of all little too at six. What are his numbers,

628
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm just curious.

629
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: So he's got he's completing sixty two point eight percent

630
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: of his passes, twenty seven hundred and twenty four yards,

631
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: eight point three yards per attempt, twenty one touchdowns, eleven interceptions,

632
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: one rushing touchdown, four fumbles.

633
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: I thought the turnover would a little higher than that,

634
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: But it's not great. I thought he's kind of stopped

635
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: throwing the interceptions. Earlier in the year, there was like

636
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: a stretcher stretch. That's why I think he started at

637
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: least won a game.

638
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: But he's also not making as many plays.

639
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: As he was. Yeah, the highlights is great either lately.

640
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's being more careful with the football. I

641
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: might have Russell Wilson had Jordan Love right.

642
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: Now, I could see that. I could definitely see that.

643
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: Like he takes better care of the football and actually

644
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: throws touchdown passes. You know you can, You're allowed to

645
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: do that you're allowed to not throw interceptions and throw

646
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: touchdown They don't have to. Yeah, it doesn't have to

647
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: be well if we're going to live with it, because

648
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna throw three touchdown passes and two interceptions.

649
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: Like Wilson's kind of doing the best with both worlds

650
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: in that category. At six.

651
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: Up seven spots, Matthew Stafford.

652
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: He should be in the top six issue. Yes, here's

653
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: how the short week treats his old body.

654
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: Then at five holding steady, Patrick Mahomes.

655
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: Wow, but I get it, that's how he's playing.

656
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, four holding steady is Jared Goff.

657
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: Been really solid, really solid.

658
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: Three down a spot is Lamar Jackson.

659
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was off, and the other two were great.

660
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Speaker 1: We're fantastic.

661
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is at number two up the spot, and

662
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: then you have josh Allen Burrow.

663
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Speaker 1: To me, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Every everybody blames the defense for them, and I get it.

665
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Speaker 1: It's really bad. It's really bad.

666
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the last couple of weeks, Burrows had opportunities

667
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: to win some of these games late in the game.

668
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: For example, Burrow didn't do really anything to win that

669
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: game against the Cowboys on Sunday.

670
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Speaker 1: The goofy punt play.

671
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Burrow's the one that got that. They couldn't

672
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: get them a first down in their own territory before

673
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: the punt. Like, if that game goes off and and

674
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: they you know, the Cowboys don't touch the punt, they

675
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: lose that game because Burrow couldn't get a first down.

676
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: In a yeah situation, a different conversation, Yeah, that one.

677
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: So he's playing well to a degree.

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Speaker 1: I think he's playing phenomenal, But I think there is

679
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: something to be said for your record's still pretty bad. Yeah,

680
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, in your one score game stuff. And there's

681
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Speaker 1: a reason that we always talk about Ben and Brady

682
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: and those guys being better than and it's not.

683
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: It's not all him. Their offensive line is not good.

684
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: I get it. But he's got two great weapons on

685
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Speaker 3: the outside. And for example, in last week's game, he

686
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: just ignored t Higgins entire second half. Like you've got

687
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Speaker 3: a guy out there who, according to Mike Tomlin, is

688
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: a goon.

689
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: Oh he's a great player, he's a.

690
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: Fantastic player, and you just ignored him to force the

691
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Speaker 3: ball to chase the entire game.

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Speaker 1: So I heard a good interview with one of their

693
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Speaker 1: beat reporters that knew his stuff, and he was talking

694
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: contracts and salary cap. He thinks they're gonna cut a

695
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: lot of their defensive players and he doesn't think house

696
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: skills name that coordinator is going to be back. But

697
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Speaker 1: that just I mean, I don't have a problem with it.

698
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's what they should do. And he still

699
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Speaker 1: thinks Higgins has a chance to return, maybe even get

700
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: franchised again. But that gets really expensive. Say it gets

701
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Speaker 1: really expensive, and their team needs are great. They probably

702
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: need two more offensive linemen interior, and as we said,

703
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: seven starters on defense. And that's even if you cut

704
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: like Hubbard, you know, like guys like that didn't quite

705
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: live up to the money you gave him. There could

706
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: be a lot of change on that defense. Mike Hilton

707
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of money. He's a cut. Yeah. I think

708
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: he's a perfect example.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't run well anymore, no, right, I mean all of

710
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: those guys love my Kilton. But sure at some point,

711
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: you know, when you're a little guy and you play

712
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: a physical game, it's.

713
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Speaker 1: Just, yeah, he's gone back here at league minimum. But

714
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Speaker 1: I can't keep you at the price you're you're making.

715
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Speaker 1: You know, everyone's got a cost.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But it's something a little missing there with

717
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: Burrow this year, some of that killer instinct.

718
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Speaker 1: I think. I don't know.

719
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Speaker 3: I think he's a he's having a fabulous year, thirty

720
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: three touchdown passes, six interceptions. But I've watched them now

721
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Speaker 3: over the last few weeks, and I've seen this happen.

722
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Speaker 1: No.

723
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Speaker 3: I hear several times now where he's had an opportunity

724
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Speaker 3: at the end of a game to go out and

725
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: make a play and it doesn't happen, right, and it's him.

726
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: It's nothing, you know, yeah that they're going up and

727
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: down the field and they're moving to yeah.

728
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: Right, But like this past week is a good example, Like,

729
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't you doing something wonderful that won

730
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: the game? Yeah, beat the Cowboys, you.

731
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Speaker 3: Know, right, and then he you know, he hits the

732
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Speaker 3: pass the chase and Chase makes a move and beats

733
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Speaker 3: him for a touchdown. That part of it, that's a

734
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: simple out. Yeah, yeah, Like you know, I don't know.

735
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Speaker 3: I just I just think that. I again, I think

736
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Speaker 3: he's having a great season, no doubt, but he's not

737
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Speaker 3: having a great end of the game week after week.

738
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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think that's fair.

739
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: And you know, if you're going to be that guy,

740
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: you know you put when you put Mahomes in those

741
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: kinds of situations and it hasn't but he wins you

742
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: the game. You know, Oh we need a field goal, Okay,

743
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to go get a field goal.

744
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like Alan couldn't get it done and

745
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: against the Rams, but most of the time he does. Yeah.

746
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 3: Right, So I think that's maybe a separator a little

747
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: bit that I might have Mahomes a little bit higher here.

748
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: Say Mahomes of five is what I'm mu sure I

749
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: could put Golf at.

750
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Speaker 3: It because I feel the same way kind of about Lamar,

751
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: Like if you're especially now the Tucker is not you know,

752
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: good from sixty yards, like, oh yeah, Lamar in those situations, right,

753
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: you know, if you know he's they're down seven points

754
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: and they got to go to the length of the

755
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 3: field the minute and thirty.

756
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Speaker 1: I like my chances. There's not many that I just

757
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: chalk it up to a win though. I mean, Mahomes

758
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: is the best that stuff. I mean, that's it.

759
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to be in that situation against Allen.

760
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to be against his Stafford either. No,

761
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean just because they've been there, done it, I

762
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: might not want to be there in that situation. Against

763
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, I.

764
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Speaker 3: Would say that some of the he's done it forty

765
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 3: plus times in his career.

766
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: You know, these guys are just the ben They've been it,

767
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: you know a long way. Yeah, it does.

768
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: But you know the Jared Goffs, Okay, yeah, some of

769
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: these other guys that haven't done it as much. I

770
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: mean sometimes you just don't have that. You look at

771
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers career, as great as it's been, that was

772
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: always a little bit lacking. He doesn't have a lot

773
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: of fourth quarter comebacks. No, he doesn't have a lot

774
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: of game winning drives.

775
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: And it's not like, well because I'm always winning. No, No,

776
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Speaker 1: I mean that's how careers go.

777
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: Some guys have it and some guys don't. Roethlisberger had

778
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 3: it without, Wilson has it. Mahomes has it. Yeah, yeah,

779
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: you know, I think Allen has it. Oh if the

780
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: coach doesn't screw it up.

781
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: With with some weird he has a couple of nightmare moments.

782
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah that cost you bad.

783
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: But you know, I just think that's that it factor

784
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: for the quarterback position. I think Burrow has it, yeah,

785
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 3: but it's not happened this year.

786
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: I don't want Borrow to have the ball with two

787
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: minutes and no ever, not with those receivers.

788
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: I do, like, you know, your pass rush against their

789
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: offensive line of those kind of situations. But I don't

790
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: want to put I don't want to put myself in

791
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: that situation where I'm playing with a six point lead

792
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: and he's got the ball two minutes left.

793
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: A lot of these Borrow games, by the fourth quarter,

794
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: he's got like three new injuries.

795
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's that too. That's why I don't want

796
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: to kill him for this one bit like that. It's

797
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: just something I've noticed here over over the you know,

798
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: just watching some of their their games in recent weeks.

799
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't believe he couldn't get a first

800
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: down there, you know, like all you need is a

801
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: first down.

802
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just fact with the Bengals, is

803
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: that we previewed him just recently. Their defenses, as bad

804
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: as their offense is good, Yeah, you should close five right,

805
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: differential says that they should be closer. It's like a

806
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: total wash. But your record isn't.

807
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: Right, you know, you've failed in some of those situations.

808
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the defense is horrendous, horrendous. I think it

809
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: might be the worst in the league.

810
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: It's really really bad. Yeah, and it's in a really

811
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: bad spot going forward. Yeah, it's not gonna be It's

812
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: not going to be solved in a year.

813
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: That's why I don't know that you you spend the

814
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: more money on the offense and say, oh, well, the

815
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: defense will fix itself.

816
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't imagine Higgins being back. Yeah. I don't

817
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: know how you can have that luxury.

818
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: No, anyways, let's get through a break. That was Nick

819
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 3: Schuk's quarterback rankings Russell Wilson coming in there at.

820
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: The what I say, Tuk, they moved down like three spots. Yeah,

821
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: it was pretty high to begin with though a week ago.

822
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah it was at seven a couple of weeks ago.

823
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: That's probably a little too high. But yeah, yeah, ten

824
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: is again fine with nine.

825
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: The tenth best quarterback playing the league told us that

826
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 3: that at the beginning of the year, sign me up. Yeah,

827
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: five much a year or whatever he's paying them. Yeah,

828
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 3: I don't care how much you're paying. If you're getting

829
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Speaker 3: the tenth best in the league, that's tenth best in

830
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Speaker 3: the league. Anyways, let's get through a break. He is

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

832
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 3: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll

833
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: be back to finish up the show right after.

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Speaker 2: This list is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

835
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

836
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Speaker 2: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lollly. He is the Matt Williamson. This

838
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network and Matt

839
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Speaker 3: Fro Football Focuses put together a little list here ranking

840
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: the best twenty twenty four free agent signings from this season.

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00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: Markley's gotta pretty high on the list.

842
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: Well, and that's why I bring it up today because

843
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: you know, earlier this week Mike Tomlans said, Hey, this

844
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: is he's the most impactful acquisition of the off season.

845
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: I think that's true. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's pretty awesome.

846
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you want to go from the bottomer to

847
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: the bottom up bottom. Okay, this is just on the

848
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Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus according to their grades, I guess yeah,

849
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Speaker 3: I'm sure. So Number twenty is Darnell Mooney.

850
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, pleasant surprise. I kind of brushed that off, like man,

851
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, but he's been very helpful.

852
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: Nineteen is Aaron Brewer, the center for the Miami Dolphins.

853
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: Their line's a little more stable than i'd sometimes give

854
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: a credit for Armstead State healthy. Brewer has been an upgrade.

855
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: I don't if he's an upgrade. Connor Williams is good,

856
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: he's got her. Yeah.

857
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: Eighteen cornerback Christian Fulton with the Chargers.

858
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. Yeah.

859
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: Seventeen tight end Johnny Smith with the Dolphins.

860
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, without question. I don't think they're even talking about

861
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: bang for back. They're talking about how much time they played. Yeah.

862
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: Sixteen guard John Simpson with the Jets.

863
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: I'd have to study it more, but I probably wouldn't

864
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: pick that one out of the hat.

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Speaker 3: So the Steelers only have one guy on this list. Okay,

866
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: that's Russell Wilson. I said, Queen, it didn't make Queen

867
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Speaker 3: Deshaun Elliott.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, some of these guys you mentioned now haven't

869
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: like let the world up.

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Speaker 3: These guys are more impactful than John Simpsons.

871
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

872
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: Three and ten team, are you kidding me?

873
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: You can't run the ball real well? No, maybe he

874
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: grades well for them. But okay.

875
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: Fifteen is Kalais Campbell with the Dolphins. The three Dolphins

876
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: make I think he does have a lot of impact.

877
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: There's no deal in Campbell. Yeah, Kalais Campbell's probably a

878
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: Hall of.

879
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: Famer really close. Yeah, I mean the man of the Year.

880
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: Stuff, got over one hundred career sacks.

881
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: I'd love to have him be a Steeler for a year,

882
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, just keep it snaps low and him and

883
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: Canby buddies and right.

884
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, really good player. Fourteen safety Kevin Byron with the Bears.

885
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I had another one. I'd have to study. I mean,

886
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't know their defense is falling apart.

887
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: He been better than Deshaun Elliott.

888
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked. Yeah'd be shocked.

889
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: Thirteen safety Brandon Jones with the Broncos. M I mean

890
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: the Broncos defense has been good.

891
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and he seemed he's a solid good player.

892
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't think the world stops been without him. Yeah,

893
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: you know on the field.

894
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: Twelve defensive lineman Poona Ford with the Chargers.

895
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: They've gotten a lot out of him, I mean and

896
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Fulton undersized nose tackles. Yeah, he's hard to play against leverage. Player.

897
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: Eleven is Bobby Wagner with the Commanders.

898
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: On and off the field. Yeah.

899
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: Ten, now we're into the top ten. Josh Jacobs with

900
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: the Packers.

901
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know if he's an upgrade over Jones,

902
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: but it's a different style and a physicality that they need.

903
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: Well he doesn't.

904
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: You know the thing about Jones is that he always

905
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: misses time here and there. And Josh Jacobs, you say

906
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: what you want about him as tough as could be.

907
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: He's like Nugie Harris. They do not miss time.

908
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: No, they played no matter what. Yeah.

909
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: Nine is guard Kevin Zeitler with the Lions. Sure, so

910
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: two former Ravens offensive lineman makes this list.

911
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: And both their guards are pretty rougher as it speaks. Yeah,

912
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: I double check that move.

913
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: Eight edge rusher Jonathan Greenard with the Vikings.

914
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: He's been exceptional. Surprise he's that low.

915
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: Seven is the guy that they switched spots, Daniel Hunter.

916
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, they both everyone's happy. Yeah.

917
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: Six, safety Xavier McKinney with the Packers.

918
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: He's in Defensive Player of the Year consideration. He's not

919
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: going to win it, but I think he's like third

920
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: in the Vegas odds right now, Yeah, interception, All of

921
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: his interceptions came early.

922
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: He's still he has two pass breakups, like he either

923
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: intercepts the ball or nothing. So it's a little bit

924
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: of some good fortune here.

925
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: I think.

926
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: Five a guy the Steelers will see this week, Zach

927
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: Baum with the Eagles.

928
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: Love them. Really been a nice pick up. Uh. Four

929
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson. Okay, sure, he's probably the only quarterback

930
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: on the list.

931
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: He is not. Three is running back Derrick Henry okay.

932
00:42:54,160 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 3: Two is running back Saquon Barkley, who might not. And

933
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: then one is Sam Darnold with the Vikings. I didn't

934
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: think of him being a free agent.

935
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: As a quarterback.

936
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: I get it would be one, but Barkley would be

937
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: one for me as well, But I get it.

938
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, where would they be without him? Would be disaster?

939
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: The record would be the total. Yeah, I mean, of course,

940
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: but he's been really good. Then I get the quarterbacks

941
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: carry weight. But he's not in the MVP category. No,

942
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean Barkley.

943
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 3: Is, Henry was in you know most of the seasons. Yeah,

944
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: he's not far off like.

945
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: Darnald versus Wilson's. A conversation started the whole season though.

946
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a difference.

947
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be more numbers, which I get,

948
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: but I forgot that he was a free agent.

949
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: I can't believe that Shaun Elliott or Patrick Queen didn't

950
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: make this list.

951
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: That does surprise me.

952
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: Now I understand this is this is going by Pro

953
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 3: Football's Focus grades. Elliott's been one of the best run

954
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: defense grades of the entire season, regardless of position. They

955
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: have a graded Queen quite as highly.

956
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: I know early in the year they hadn't. Yeah, assumed

957
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: that corrected itself. Not a lot better, at least been great.

958
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: They both have been really good, and some of the

959
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: safety's on there haven't been super high impact guys.

960
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: Tell me, you know, it's not more impactful than a

961
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: guard for the the.

962
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: Jetsver and he can buy and Buyer's a name, but

963
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: he hasn't been a difference maker, you know.

964
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: I it's just, yeah, I get it, you know, some

965
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: of the stuff when PROFO they go by their grades.

966
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's

967
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: a terrible list, but I'm a little shocked that neither

968
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: of those guys are on there.

969
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know if you're gonna go twenty deep.

970
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah about back ten didn't like light the world on fire.

971
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this. So we talked earlier

972
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: in the show about this draft class and.

973
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: The impact that it's said. Yeah, it's big.

974
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 3: You've got the number four biggest acquisition of the off season.

975
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 3: I think that was fair.

976
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think yeah, I don't think that's misplaced.

977
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: But I don't hear Omar Kahn's name mentioned for front

978
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: office guy of the Year.

979
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean, especially consider what you paid for the quarterbacks.

980
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: Like how you maneuved, how you maneuvered that whole thing.

981
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was brilliant. It was brilliant. I mean I

982
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: guess the knock is you never landed the receiver that

983
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: everyone wanted. But other than that, I don't know what

984
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: you would be if you're the attorneys against them. Where

985
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: would you have a hard time? Team ten and three?

986
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: Right, you're probably going to win the AFC North that

987
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: nobody everybody picked you last.

988
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: People are talking about the year.

989
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: Well, Roseman with the Eagles always gets a.

990
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: Lot of love. Built the defense quite well.

991
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: Washington. Who's the GM in Washington because they drafted Jayden Daniels.

992
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, say I mean, I don't love I like that there.

993
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: They took the approach of going to get Ertz and

994
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: Eckler and Wagner.

995
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: For you built You built a nest around your young quarterback.

996
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: But you kind of got lucky that it was him

997
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: and not Caleb Williams. It was available to you.

998
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably would have gone better for Williams and Washington,

999
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: but remarkably better. I No, I don't know they They're

1000
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: line in defense is a lot better than I thought

1001
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: they were going to be. But I still think they

1002
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of work to do.

1003
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: They didn't inherit a great team. But again, if you

1004
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: look at the preseason prognostications and where the Steelers the

1005
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: expectation of what the Steelers were going to be versus

1006
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: what the reality is, there aren't many guys that did

1007
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: a better job this offseason.

1008
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: That might be a fun thing to do. I probably

1009
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: in a bad time of year to do it. We

1010
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: should have done like in the bye week, but pull

1011
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: up all the preseason Vegas over under totals, like how

1012
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: long did it take till you were a winner or loser?

1013
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: On those? If you bet the over or under? Like

1014
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: Steeers passed there is pretty quick, pretty quickly. There are

1015
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: many teams that passed a quicker probably Washington teams had

1016
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: really low expectations that had good years. But there's definitely

1017
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: the Bengals, Dallas.

1018
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 3: On the other end of that, there were some guys,

1019
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: there were some teams that were were out of it

1020
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: pretty quickly.

1021
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: Exactly the Jets, right, I mean Bengals are real high

1022
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: in lists too. Yeah. A lot of those are double

1023
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: digit win type teams that have no chance.

1024
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: No chance, yeah, yeah, and haven't had a chance for

1025
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: over a month.

1026
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, another one to bead, you know, right, right.

1027
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 3: Right, So anyways, I just thought that was interesting and well,

1028
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: we'll get to see a couple of these free agent

1029
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: acquisitions this weekend.

1030
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Barkley has to be one that's kind.

1031
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: Of changed over the course of the last decade or so.

1032
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 3: You didn't used to be able to build as much

1033
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: through free agency, but with teams signing guys to shorter contracts, now.

1034
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: It's a little more. You can find things, You can

1035
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: go find things. Yeah, it's hard to find a tackle.

1036
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's certain areas you don't want to pay for it,

1037
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: but there are some you can always find safeties on

1038
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 3: the free agent market. You can always find a linebacker

1039
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: on the free agent market.

1040
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: Another thing too, is like, look what's available at the

1041
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: trade deadline. You can't get a tackle, no, I mean

1042
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: it's really hard to get a starting corner sometime getting

1043
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: guards receiver. Yeah, you can find some things. You can

1044
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: get pass rusher. I mean, I know there are premium positions,

1045
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: but there's edge guys that move at the trade deadline

1046
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: every year. Yeah, you know, there's receivers that move every year.

1047
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: You can always get a running.

1048
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: Back, just the way the way the game was evolved

1049
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 3: in the general managers of the vault of stuff.

1050
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are teams willing to trade? Matt?

1051
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: That's going to do it for the show today?

1052
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: Nice? It's fun.

1053
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, We'll be back again tomorrow. Give all of

1054
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: our picks, including the Steeler game, give you our DFS

1055
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: lineup for the weekend, all that fun stuff. But for

1056
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: my partner, Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site

1057
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Speaker 3: making sure the Justin Miller hotline is fired up at

1058
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Speaker 3: the Hampshire is one with that Peyton Wilson, we'd like

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Speaker 3: to thank him as well. Tyler viitt Meyer here making

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Speaker 3: sure our video gets out onto YouTube. Check that out there.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lully. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 3: this edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.