1 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Help. Ron and Aian. This radio show is for you. 2 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: It's about your car, and you know that. All I 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: really want to do is answer your questions. I want 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: to talk to you about the car. I want to 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: tell you what I went through in the shop this week. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: That car doctor, I really am here just for you. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: I just want to talk to you about your car 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: and it's problem. And that's what I've been doing these 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: best plus years. It's going on and I think we're 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: about seven. It's all about you in your car. Why 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: you stuck up, half witted scrubby looking. Welcome to the 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Aian, the Car Doctor. Since 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world over turned to 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: here to take your call at eight five five five six, 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: and now he running. Hey. Welcome and a happy New 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: Year's Eve to each and every one of you, as 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: we could go up this hour of the car it's 21 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: it's wait, it's what well, isn't this New Year's Eve? 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: But it's not happy New Year's Eve? It's just New 23 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: Year's Eve. And we thought you said New Beer's Eve. 24 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Why isn't it. So, so Tony went to the store 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: and got some. I got a six pack of Hineykins. Yeah, 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: and I got some. And well, we're having a party 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: in here and you're there by yourself. And by the way, 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: we've got the door locked, so you know, kind of 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: stinks to be you. Well, listen, I just want to 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: warn you guys that, um, and I was going to 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: tell you this before we started the show, but I 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: haven't had time because I got my red jelly beans 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: in here. By the way, thanks for the red jelly beans. 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: You're welcome. There's there's nothing bad in these, right, so 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: these these are okay. Only we know that you don't, 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: but the red jelly beans are good. Um, listen for 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: you and for everybody else out there. UM, I can't 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: find my cell phone. So usually I I soundproof the 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: studio before we start the show, so somebody happens to 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: call my cell phone during the show today, if the 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: phone rings, at least we'll know where it is. Um. 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: But in any event, Um, this is the car doctor, 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: all serious, Well, kitting around the side, this is the 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: car doctor, Happy New Year's Eve, Happy New Beer's Eve, 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: whatever your heart desires. UM, we are here to talk 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: about your car and repair. We're here to talk about 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: taking you to the next level of understanding what that 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: automobile is. And UM, in all seriousness, I'm here just 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: to help you. That's really what this is about. UM. 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: Things like this customer I came into the shop this week. 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: She's driving a automobile. I won't say the brand because 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: I think this is applicable. I've seen this type of 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: thing going on at all manufacturers. I don't understand the 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: wallet flush, and it seems that's what repair shops are 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: doing or some repair show. I said, it doesn't matter. 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: I've seen dealers do this. I've seen independence do this, 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: I've seen change stores do this, and I call it 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: the wallet flush. Well here, let me let me let 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: me read it to you like this. And I think 60 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: we've talked about this before, but it's getting worse. So 61 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: at five thousand miles on this high tech you know, 62 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: needs needs less maintenance now than it did before. Type 63 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: of automobile. It's at five thousand miles, it's an oil 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: change fluids, tires rotate, tire pressure, oil and fuel treatment. Um, 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: you get roadside assistance, rental car coverage. Why would you 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: need rental car coverage on a new car under warranty 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: that's got rental car coverage anyway, I don't understand that 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: that's a hundred all roil change. It's a hundred dollar 69 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: fancy oil change. At fifteen thousand miles. It's the same 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: thing plus a cabin filter and air filter and a 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: fuel filter. And I read that, and I said, how 72 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: can they replace a fuel filter but the car most 73 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: of these cars don't have fuel filters. They're in the tank, 74 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: And why are they doing that? That's two at twenty 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: thousand miles. It's a repeat of the five thousand mile 76 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: service UM and a wheel alignment for two D and 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: on and on and on every five thousand miles. And 78 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: you start to add it up. Let's see a hundred 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: that's such one three five, seven, twelve, sixteen three. Let 80 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: me give you a price on that one. In the 81 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: first ninety thousand miles, you will spend a minimum of 82 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars almost of maintenance, barring any breakdowns, anything 83 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: retire related breaks, anything beyond normal wearing tear under warranty 84 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, isn't that excessive? Aren't we kind of 85 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: doing this backwards? Didn't we buy a new car because 86 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: we wanted to put a minimal amount of money into 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: just to pay off the car for the first hundred 88 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 1: thousand miles. And how bizarre is it that they're telling 89 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: you that that car that you just spent thirty five 90 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: or forty dollars on is now a big piece of 91 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: junk unless you do all this maintenance to it. I 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: don't understand it. You know, I've said this for years. 93 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: Cars are like kids. When they're young, you're you know, 94 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: look at a kid. Kids can bounce off the walls, 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: they can fall out of a chair. They're fine. You know, 96 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: you get to be a little older and all of 97 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: a sudden you slip and fall down. You're laid up 98 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: in the hospital for two weeks. Heaven forbid. And cars 99 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: are like kids. They're more durable when they're younger. They 100 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: would stand the knocking around, in the banging. If you 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: want to get beyond a hundred thousand miles, if you 102 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: want to get beyond thirty years old, you stopped doing 103 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: those stupid things you did as a kid, all right, 104 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: And I don't understand the thought process of how people 105 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: fall for this and what generated it. Was standing at 106 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: the shop. The synthetic oil change we had done was 107 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: about seventy five dollars, and she said, gee, but the 108 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: dealer was only charging me forty, right, because it's forty 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: dollars for the oil change, But it's two hundred, six hundred, 110 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: four hundred, eight hundred and so on for all the 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: services that they're adding on. They're using the oil change 112 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: as a loss leader. Wouldn't you rather pay for what 113 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: you need and not have to worry about overpaying for 114 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: things that aren't absolutely necessary? Are going to really help 115 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: the car in the longevity of it. Some of these things, 116 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying they're not necessary. You know what, 117 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: start this service at a hundred thousand miles. You don't 118 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: need this is overkill at five thousand miles. First of all, 119 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: the car doesn't even have a fuel filter. The car 120 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: may not have a cabin filter, the car may not 121 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: have certain filters that they're claiming in these and you 122 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: guys have them. You've all seen this, You've all gotten 123 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: the brochures. It's usually the last thing the finance manager 124 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: hands you at the dealership. Oh, now that you what 125 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: your car, here's how we want you to take care 126 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: of it. Not all dealers do it. Not all dealers 127 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: are bad. There's a place for some of it. But 128 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: you've just got to be aware. You've got to be 129 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: aware of what you're buying. And that's my job. That's 130 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: what I'm here for, and that's what I'm trying to 131 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: do for you each and every week. If you go 132 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: out to the Facebook page, get out to Ronan any 133 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor out on Facebook, you'll see the 134 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: latest post. It's a picture of a steel wheel on 135 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: Toyota Prius, little old ladies car. And I mean that 136 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: by no insult. I listen, my mom's a little old lady. 137 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting to be a little old man. But regardless, 138 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: um Prius came in and it had a flat, so 139 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: Triple A came out. And I can say it like 140 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: that because it's factual. That's who did it. Triple A 141 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: came out, changed the flat, and whoever changed the flat 142 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: the car showed up on our doorstep two days later 143 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: to have the spare replaced. And we're gonna move around 144 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: the steel wheel and all the lug nuts are on backwards. 145 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: All four it's not like and you know he worked 146 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: at it to really make it happen, all right. He 147 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: crushed the steel cone, he crushed the the you know 148 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: with the taper where the lung nuts sits. And when 149 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: I look at that, I posted it and it's stunned me. 150 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: There's a couple of posts on the Facebook page where 151 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: people said, gee, I didn't know that lug nuts only 152 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: went one way, And that tells me I'm not doing 153 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: my job right. That tells me I'm not trying hard enough. 154 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: That tells me I've got to do more and better 155 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: information to each and every one of you. And you 156 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: can't sit there and say, oh, that's lack of common sense. 157 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: People just don't know when you look at those lists. 158 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: I can look at that list and tell you Yet 159 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you know the car doesn't have a fuel She was 160 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: stunned to hear this, This one particular woman customer. She 161 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: was stunned to hear the car doesn't have a fuel filter. 162 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: What do you mean it doesn't have a fuel filter. 163 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: Cars don't have fuel filters that are replaceable anymore. I 164 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: don't know of any late model car in the last 165 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: six to eight years that has a replaceable fuel filter. 166 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're out there. I probably just didn't see 167 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: enough of them, but the majority of fuel filters are 168 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: now in the tank and they're part of the fuel 169 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: pump or the fuel pump module assembly. Listen, this is 170 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: about a you ation. We're gonna have some laughs and 171 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: yuck it up a little bit along the way, hopefully 172 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: something a little funnier than what Tom and Tony just 173 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: sprung on me. There you go, karmas, karmas that you 174 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: know what coming back at you, guys, But um, I 175 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: really just I'm here to help you talk talk to 176 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: you about your car and help you to understand it. 177 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: And the way you do that is by the way. 178 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: I guess I should give this out now. I'll just 179 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: sit here and talk to myself for the next two hours. 180 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: Is eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 181 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: That number again is eight five five five six zero 182 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: zero zero. Which that phone number seven. We've made that 183 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: so you can call the eight five five zero nine 184 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: zero phone number, leave a message and our producer will 185 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: call you back and get you in the queue for 186 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: the following show. We are live on the network Saturday afternoons. 187 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: We go out on the airways Saturday afternoons to to 188 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: four pm. After that it's podcast and streaming and uh, 189 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, affiliates, other affiliates that take us some of 190 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: some of our affiliates carry us lives, some of us 191 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: or some of our affiliates take us on delay. Um, 192 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: you know. But you can also do this by stream 193 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Car Doctors show dot com. There's a live stream on 194 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: the computer just down to the left of my left 195 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: leg here, Uh, so you can pick it up that way. 196 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: But the point is, I don't feel like you can't 197 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: call eight five five five zero nine zero zero because 198 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: you're down in Australia where we do have some listeners 199 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: and you know we're not on the air at the 200 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: same time. You can call that number. We'll call you 201 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: back and do our best to get through wherever you are, 202 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: whatever part of the world you're in and talk to 203 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: you about your car and it's problem. So anyway, let's 204 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause for the cause E 205 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: five zero zero. I'm done babbling for this segment. I'm 206 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: running any of the Car Doctor and I'll be back 207 00:10:33,960 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: right after this. Yeah, welcome back the card Ockery. Five 208 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero. Anybody find my cell phone yet. Now, Okay, 209 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I can't be that important anyway. Um, listen, by the way, 210 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: before I go to the phones. UM. I was looking 211 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: at this list again during the break, I was talking 212 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: to Tom so at five thousand miles, they're gonna rotate 213 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: the tires, but all and rotate the tires again in 214 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: fifteen So every ten thousand miles are gonna rotate the tires. 215 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: And that's such a generic term because what if this 216 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: is a you know, what if this is a four 217 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: wheel drive versus a front wheel drive versus an all 218 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: wheel drive. What if it has directional tires on it? 219 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: What if it's you know, depending upon the vehicle dictates 220 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: and predicates when you rotate tires, not necessarily because the 221 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: mileage says so this this thought process just makes no sense. 222 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: And what's interesting is rotate tires. They never say anything 223 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: about balancing them every time. You rotate tires every time. 224 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: If you want to do it right, in my opinion, 225 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: from what I've seen over the past forty plus years, 226 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: you balance at least the two tires up front. The 227 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: two tires going up front should be balanced, because that's 228 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: where you'll pick up the vibration. You really want to 229 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, balance all four. It doesn't hurt the 230 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: balance all four tires every five to six or eight 231 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: thousand miles. That's just common wear and tear. But you know, 232 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: to follow something blindly for no reason. I could get political, 233 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: but I won't because that's how we got into trouble 234 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: in this country in a lot of ways. Let's open 235 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: the phone. Let's go over to Manton, Minnesota, looking for 236 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: an early model SUV and a budget of about six 237 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: grand Matthew, Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can 238 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: I help? Yeah, that's right, Thank you. I really enjoy 239 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: your program. Yeah, I got about five to six thousand 240 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: the spin looking for, and it su the smaller type 241 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: let's say, like a h Afford Escape. Perfect car, you know, 242 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: not what? Yeah, perfect car, That's exactly what I was thinking. 243 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: But go ahead, finish your thought. Not not not a 244 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: suburban and and not one of those four wheel drive 245 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: station wagons. You know, something you know kind of a Yeah, 246 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, based on what you've done and what 247 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: you've seen over the years, something that's you know, has 248 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: good reliability. I mean, let's face it, condition dictates price 249 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: and of and and and what we want to buy. 250 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: But if we're just talking about if all these vehicles 251 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: are equal, I'd have no problem saying afford Escape. And 252 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: I called him the shoe box for to escape. As 253 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, my wonderful engineer, chief engineer, what 254 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: is your title? Now? Well here he comes. I forget 255 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: bottle washer, bottle washer, my chief bottle washer and cook 256 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: and chief engineer Tom Ray drove Escape to over two 257 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: hundre thousand miles, his daughters still driving it. And that 258 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: thing took him everywhere through all kinds of bad weather 259 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: and never let him down. So you know that square 260 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: body style Escape, great vehicle, good good, something that's good 261 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: for in the snow too, because we you know, six 262 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: months out of the year it's ice and snow and 263 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: we we do travel quite a bit. And just ease 264 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: of loading and unloading and um Honda crvs that that 265 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: that Escape never and trouble in the snow never never. 266 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: And this is a guy. And to tell you this, 267 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: Matt Tom, what Tom does when he's not doing anything else, 268 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: which is rare Tom's and Tom's other job, one of 269 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: his other jobs, one of his other hats, because he's 270 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: a guy that has to keep busy he is that 271 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: can I can I tell him about the emergency broadcast 272 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: job for the State of New York. I think I 273 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: just did. Tom's actually the Emergency Broadcast radio Coordinator for 274 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: the State of New York. His job is to drive 275 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: around radio stations in New York State to make sure 276 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: they're all up into compliance from Emergency Broadcast system. Um 277 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: So when when when Tom has to get somewhere in 278 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy weather. I mean, I'm sure you've 279 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: heard they've heard of snow and upstate New York like 280 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: you've heard of it in Minnesota. Tom can't stop. Tom's 281 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: gotta go. So you know that escape took him everywhere. 282 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Um Now, I want to point out Tom had some 283 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: of the best tires in the world on that escape, 284 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: because it also depends on tires in terms of getting 285 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: through snow. Tom was running generals, of course, and he 286 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: had absolutely no problem getting getting where he had to 287 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: go with his general tires. But you know it's it's tires. 288 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Do allow for that as well. Honda c r V, 289 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: great vehicle. Okay again, you know was the is the 290 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: maintenance being done to that Honda? But if if my choices, 291 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: I'll give you three, it's a Honda c r V, 292 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: it's a Ford Escape, and it's a Toyota RAV four. 293 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: I think those are probably three the better ones. Um. Yeah, 294 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: you can start to look at the Nissans if Nissan 295 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: has something comparable in that class, the smaller ones. Uh, 296 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Mitsubishi stuff for the suber Ruse. My 297 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: experience with the super Rus has been personally, I think 298 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: for where you're gonna be dollar wise, when it's when 299 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna be that old, it's gonna have too many 300 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: mechanical issues that are gonna get to be too expensive. 301 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: Five six grand's gonna buy you a sub bru that's 302 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: got probably from the way I see pricing here in 303 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: New Jersey, New York, you're gonna buy something that's got 304 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: well over a hundred and thirty thousand miles on it. Uh. 305 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: And and that Escape my too. But I will say this, 306 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: I think cost to repair the Escape is a cheaper 307 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: vehicle to maintain and repair than that Subaru. Just my opinion, 308 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: just just what I see in the shop. Now you're 309 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: being in Minnesota, I'm gonna tell you to be selective 310 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: and make sure you'll lift the car and look underneath 311 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: salt corrosion rust because condition dictates price and whether or 312 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: not you want the vehicle. But that's where i'd be looking. Now. 313 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: Is that escape or normally a rear driver and then 314 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: you put it in the four or is it an 315 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: all wheel? Um? Tom all wheel? Tom's is an all wheel, 316 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: and I think they are. You can get them as 317 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: a front wheel, but generally they are all wheel all 318 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: the time. Ye. Usually it's uh, Usually people buy the 319 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: all wheel, but they do have a two wheel version, 320 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: which is red drive. Right. Is it a rear drive 321 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: if it's two wheel, I thought it was fun. I 322 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: think it is. I think it is a weird drive. 323 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong on that. No, I think it's a 324 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: front wheel bib Yeah maybe yeah, Maybe you're right, and 325 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a front wheel. But 326 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: when I have his all wheel and it works, there's 327 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: myself that un But I got mine. Well, I thank 328 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: we found one of them, Matt, But I will I 329 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: will say this. Be sure that when you buy it, 330 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: you lift it to see what it was. Don't assume 331 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: it's a it's an all wheel or a four wheel 332 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: drive vehicle. Whatever you're buying. Um, you know just because 333 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: the controls aren't there. And that is a that is 334 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: something to think about. I have seen that where you 335 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: think it's an all wheel drive vehicle, because we're not. 336 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: Things are all wheel drive. There's no controls. That just 337 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: happens automatically. We have a customer in the shop now. 338 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: She lived in Florida. She relocated to North Jersey. She's 339 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: driving a twenty fifteen Jeep Grand Cherokee. Every time she 340 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: comes in, we sit there and look at it and left. 341 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 1: It's a rear wheel drive. And the reason being is 342 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: she leased the car in Florida, moved to New Jersey 343 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: and she doesn't She didn't she was in Florida, didn't 344 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: need four wheel drive. I don't know how she's gonna 345 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: get rid of it when the least comes up in 346 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: a year and a half, because who's gonna want it 347 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: in New Jersey. You're gonna have four wheel drive? You 348 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: have to. So that's what we're looking for. Is is 349 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: for the four wheel or a wheel that? Uh? Is 350 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: that a fix fund nerve for? They make it both ways, 351 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: But I would tell you to pick out the pick 352 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: out the six. That's what Tom had and I think 353 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: in a vehicle that size is going to give it 354 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: more durability and more power on the road. 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She's a little banged up, in a 365 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: little weary, and we want to just tell her that 366 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: we love her, we're thinking of her, and we know 367 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: she's out there listening to the radio. And get well 368 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: soon and come on home. Let's get back to the phone. 369 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to Doug in West Virginia. 370 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: Two thousand eight Honda Accord. Some questions about meeting and Doug. 371 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? 372 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: How are you doing R good? What's going on? Man? 373 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: I just bought a used two thousand and eight Honda 374 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: Chord with eighty eight thousand miles about it from a dealer, 375 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: got it in a trade in, and uh, I can't 376 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: get ahold of the owner, the previous owner. So I 377 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: just really, yeah, I want to keep this car for 378 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: another two hundred thousand miles. I know that certain things 379 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: need to be changed to the hundred thousand miles already 380 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: going to change spark plugs, the timing bell I'm sure 381 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: needs change. Uh is this as this is a V 382 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: six Doug Okay, right, yeah, then there's so it's gonna 383 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: be timing belt, water pump, thermostat coolant. Here's the rule 384 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: on maintenance. When you buy a used car and you 385 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: want to do maintenance, assume nothing. You know, even if 386 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: even if it's written in documentation, it's still a judgment call. 387 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: If they say they change trans fluid and the transfluid 388 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: is a little dirty, change it all right. You know. 389 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: If the trans fluid is bright and shiny pink, okay, 390 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: they changed it, but you know, if you have any doubt, 391 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: change it now. So at least you're not guessing during 392 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: the life of the car, so you can get to 393 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: that two thousand miles that you want to get to. 394 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: So it's it's timing belt, water pump, thermostat, coolant, serpentine belt, 395 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: the regular syrup belt. It's it's going to be when 396 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: you do the timing belt. You want to do a 397 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: whole timing belt kit. You don't want to do half 398 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: a timing belt. You want to do attention or you 399 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: want to do the roller, the idler, and you want 400 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: to do the timing belt pully. All right, change all 401 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: the components. Cars got ninety thousand miles on it. You 402 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: don't want to have to visit this again for another 403 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: ninety thousand miles. It's silly. Yeah, And I understand this 404 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: is an interference motor. So the timing belt breaks, then 405 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: basically I'm looking for a new motor or a car 406 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: one or the other ut And that's if and listen, 407 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: even if it's not an interference motor, you know it's 408 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: still an issue because now you're on the side of 409 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: the of the interstate and you know, we had a 410 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: customer with a Toyota Highland or the timing belt broke 411 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: on the interstates. You broke it overheated, the eighteen wheelers 412 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: are bearing down on her. The car can't get out 413 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: of its own way, young driver. It was it was 414 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: almost a catastrophe that that that happened. Unfortunately it worked 415 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: out okay, where it just took out the car and 416 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: everybody was safe because after all, it's only sheet metal. 417 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: But you know, so we want to look at all 418 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: those things. Obviously, change the oil, change the trans fluid, 419 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 1: a break fluid flush. Depending upon what they look like, 420 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: I would at least consider taking the brake calipers apart, 421 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: take them off their brackets, clean and loube everything. Take 422 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: a look at the pads. How are the brakes done? 423 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: You know? Does does? Did anybody have any common sense? 424 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: And clean and loud the caliber mounting brackets so that 425 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: things move and float freely like they should. It's a 426 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: it's an eight going on nine year old vehicle. You 427 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: know what sort of maintenance we've going to the brakes? 428 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: Really really important stuff. And you know that's probably all 429 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: you need to do it at face value. Oh you 430 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: know what. The only other thing I would consider doing. 431 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: I would do one is a throttle body cleaning. Clean 432 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: the throttle body going into the air and take Now, 433 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: understand on a Honda, Hondas are a little sensitive, all right. 434 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: When you clean the throttle body, you're going to have 435 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: to go through a throttle body relearn where they do 436 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: an idle learn. You need a scan tool to do that. 437 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to do it any other 438 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: way that I'm aware of. And if you don't do that, 439 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: you can set fault code. It comes up with it 440 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: comes up with erroneous. It thinks there's a false map 441 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: sensor readings P zero five O five zero five oh 442 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: four or something like that, UM or five oh seven, sorry, 443 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: P zero, It'll set a P zero five oh seven. 444 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: I believe it is map sensor fault. There's actually a 445 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: couple of bulletins from Honda that talks about the specific 446 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: procedure about using a scan tool, going in, doing an 447 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: e c M reset, and then doing a relearn UH, 448 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: watching the idle relearn pit on the scan tool to 449 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: see if it if it when it actually happens, and 450 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: it's a matter of running the car three grand until 451 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: the fans cycle and then learning it idle UM along 452 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: the way. Not every Honda is applicable to it, the 453 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: majority of these six is are, so I would just 454 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 1: be cautious clean the throttle body, but be prepared. If 455 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: you do set a fault code, you're gonna have to 456 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: find a buddy or a repair shop with a scan 457 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: tool that can do a relearn um at the very least, 458 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: or you know, the dealer level tool to Honda dealer 459 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: level tool will do it as well. So, uh, you know, 460 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: fuel system cleanliness, and then you know, let's look at 461 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: wiper blades and obviously tires and just for giggles, it's 462 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: been eight nine years down West Virginia roads and winters 463 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: and summers, and just take a peek at the radiator. 464 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: No sense having the radiator fail. After you go through 465 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: all this with the con you know, to me, that's 466 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: typical maintenance. That's typical. Take a used car, shape it up, 467 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: and you know, close the hood for the next hundred 468 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: thousand miles and until something fails, just drive it. And 469 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: that's that's most of what you're gonna see on a 470 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Honda of that generation. Let me ask you a question. 471 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: That Honda recommends their oil, which is a synthetic blend. 472 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: There isn't a problem with switching to full synthetic. I 473 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: think synthetic blend is probably one of the biggest marketing 474 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: place deployed upon the American public in the last thirty years. 475 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I don't know why you would 476 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: want synthetic blend. You know, it's it's it's sort of 477 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: like going at the Starbucks and getting getting a regular 478 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: cup of coffee and using their creamer. What's the point. 479 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: You know, that's not a knock on Starbucks. I'm just saying, 480 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, brand for brand or component for component. My 481 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: point is that you know, to me, it's either conventional 482 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: or synthetic because of the price difference. It isn't that 483 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: much of a difference. It isn't that big a deal. Um. 484 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, I think synthetic blend was created, you know, 485 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: to make people happy at a price point, because we're 486 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: always trying to make everyone happy. Everybody wins. It's t 487 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: ball in America. You know, everybody gets a trophy. But 488 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: I think that synthetic oil on something of this generation 489 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: absolutely positively the way to go. You know, I'm gonna 490 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: tell you to get out to Penn's Oil and look 491 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: at Penn's Oil synthetics dot com and read all about 492 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: synthetics there. If you're gonna ask me about brand of oil, 493 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you to look at Penn's Oil. I 494 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: like Penn's Oil good quality stuff. Um, you know, but 495 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: that's that's what I uil. Hey one, Um, what about 496 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: any additives I've I've used stuff like slick fifty in 497 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: the past. Should would you recommend anything like that? Yeah, 498 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you eat it. Um, 499 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: I think it's unnecessary. I think, um, you know, just 500 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: doing the maintenance. We talked about some fuel system cleaner 501 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: in the tank. You know, by all means get out 502 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: to Berriman, get out to Barriman Products dot Com. I wouldn't, 503 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't hesitate to use their hest fuel tank cleaners. 504 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: And we've seen some very good results with that of 505 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: late and you know, take take take that to heart. Um. Well, 506 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: I've been listening to the show for a long time 507 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: and and typically what I do is I use Berryman's 508 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: about every four four tank pools that too often? No, 509 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: I think probably once a month because I run eight 510 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: seven and then next particular vehics. But well you can, 511 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: you can. You just have to use eight seven or 512 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: a higher grade. Some of the later models recommend or 513 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: tell you to use ninety three, but I think we're 514 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: running eight seven. What I try to do is put 515 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: a cannon Berryman's in um like every fourth thankful, No, 516 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: I think you're on target if you even wanted to 517 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: do it every three tankfuls. But you know, the idea 518 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: is to put some type of an additive in there 519 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: because I think I think the problem with fuel systems 520 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: today is that even staying consistent with one brand, and 521 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: it's difficult. Listen, we all lead billy, busy lives. But 522 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: even trying to stay consistent with one brand, the the 523 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: the consistency at the pump, at the refinery, by the season, 524 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: by the region of the country, it all changes on 525 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: a on a regular, semi regular basis. So I think 526 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: a fuel system additive, a cleaner like a Berriman product. 527 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: I think that is going to be the equalizer it. 528 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's sort of levels the playing field and 529 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: helps keep the balance amongst the problems, so to speak. 530 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: If that makes all right, sir. Hey, listen, you have 531 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: a good new year down there West vir Junior Way, Doug, 532 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: and I'm glad to cant you among the car doctor family. 533 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: You'd be safe and we'll see you in the new year. 534 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: Take good care. I'm in the card occurate five five 535 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero, fired up and ready to go. 536 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for your call. I'll be back right after this. 537 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Get kids six six, welcome back. We're on Nady of 538 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: the card occerate five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 539 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: Let's go and talk to Tim and Bang remain seventy 540 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: six Chrystler Cordoba with the fine Corinthian leather. Anybody remember 541 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: that commercial? Raise your hand? I remember that? Who was that? 542 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: Wasn't it? What was the character actor's name? Tim? What 543 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: was the character actor's name that sold your car? Do 544 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: you remember on TV? Ricardo Montebon? Right? And what else 545 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: is he famous for? Let's see how good everybody is today? 546 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: Anybody blamed boss deep playing? What else? Tim? What else 547 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: was he in? Anybody remember? Since this is New Year's 548 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: and we're looking back, he was the he was the 549 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: Wrath of Coon. He was the bad guy in the 550 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: Wrath con Yeah. Yeah, So since it's a New Year's 551 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: and we're looking back as us as to what was? 552 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: But anyway, so how can I help you when you're 553 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: fine Corinthian leather? Sir? Well, unfortunately, no printing leather in mine. 554 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: But um it does have a problem that it won't start. Um, 555 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: it's got a regular ignition not the electronic clean burn 556 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: and uh, it gets spark in the run when the 557 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: keys in the run position, but not in the start position. 558 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: Now is this is still a factory system, correct factory diagram. Okay, 559 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: so when it goes so, it'll get spark in the 560 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: crank position but not in run. If I did, it 561 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: gets the other way around. It gets spark in the 562 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: run but not the crank. Okay, so you go to, well, 563 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: how do you know what's got spark in a in 564 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: a in a in a run position. Well, what was 565 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: doing was try to start at nothing, move the key 566 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: from start to run and it gives a little chug, 567 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: put a spark tester on it and occasionally, depending upon 568 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: where the rotor is passing. You know, when you go 569 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: from start to run. I have seen spark uh in 570 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: the when the keys in the run position. Okay, how 571 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: about this. Do you have a remote starter switch? Uh? Yes, 572 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: I I And I've tried starting it with the key 573 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: uh in run and jumping the starter and I get nothing. 574 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you have and you have no spark? Yeah? Okay, 575 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: so it really doesn't have spark in the run position. Well, 576 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I've i've you know, like I've seen it and it 577 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: gives a little chug when you go from start to run. 578 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: Gives a little chug like maybe one or two cylinders 579 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: are firing, but not enough to get it to keep spinning. Well, 580 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: we refresh my memory, Tim, this is seventy six. There 581 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: is a non lean burn, but this is a factory 582 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: non lean burn system. Correct. Okay, So this has the 583 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: electronic module bolted to the firewall. Okay, so this has 584 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: a pick up inside the distributor, right, an electronic pickup 585 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: UM air gap if I remember right, Let's see how 586 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: well can I remember six to eight thousand's I remember 587 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: being small seven, six to eight. There you go, so 588 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: and you need to use you needed to use a 589 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: copper fueler gauge or a brass brass fueler gauge is 590 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: what it was, so that it wouldn't stick to the 591 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: magnet yep. So once we get past that, then we 592 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: got to have the conversation. This is the three wire 593 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: um control module. Corrects it? There? Is it five wire? 594 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it was? I think it was three? And uh well, 595 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: maybe I can save all the time. I have a 596 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: factory shop manual and using a triple tester, the ignition system. 597 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Everything you know I get the voltage on supposed to 598 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: have or the resistance, you know, whatever it is. So 599 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: the ignition system, you know, from what I can tell, 600 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: checks out. Okay. Well, if the ignition system checks out, okay, 601 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: and you don't have spark, one of the tests is wrong, 602 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: right yeah. Um, And and listen, Let's just let's start 603 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: with the coil. Okay, Let's go to the Let's go 604 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: to the Let's go to the negative side of the coil. 605 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: Let's put a test light there, crank it over. Does 606 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: the test light blink? I don't know. Okay, If the 607 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: test light doesn't blink, if the test lights on steady, 608 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: then it's not getting a signal. If the test lights on, 609 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: if the test light blink, blink, blink, all right, then 610 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: the coils being told to discharge. But nothing happens because 611 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're testing this at both the center of 612 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: the coil tower, you know, tests putting your spark plug 613 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: test on the coil wire as well as on a 614 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: spark plug wire. Yeah, I tested, okay, tested at the coil. 615 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: How do you how do you know? How do you 616 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: know the spark isn't getting lost on the road or 617 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: going to going to ground to shaft through a crack 618 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: in the rotor. You're you're, you're, you're testing it, right, Tim, 619 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: break the system down into less components, less steps. All right, 620 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: So let's take a test light. This is an older car. 621 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: I feel safe doing this. Let's take a test light. 622 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: Put the negative side of the coil, crank it over. 623 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: That light should blink, showing the signals being turned on 624 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: and off. All right. If the light doesn't blink or 625 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: light up at all? Do you have twelve vaults at 626 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: the positive side of the coil. If you have all that, 627 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: do you have spark coming out of the coil. If 628 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: you don't, you've got a bad coil. Let's go from there, Tim, 629 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm up against the clock. Do those tests. Call me 630 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: back next week. We'll go from THEREO zero. The car 631 00:33:48,520 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: doctors coming back. Don't go away, Hey, run any of 632 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We're back real quick. Let's get over 633 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: to Steve Valley Stream, New York. Steve, Welcome to the 634 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. What's going on? Real quick? Sir? Hey, yeah, 635 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: I have a two eleven Bubic Lacrosse three point six 636 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: of the of the six and it's charging at U 637 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: two and I don't know if that's a problem. No, 638 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Stephen you hear me, Steve, you hear me. 639 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: Talk about how on later model cars. Now, if you 640 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: put a battery in, you've got to start to do 641 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: a scan tool reset to learn the charging system and 642 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: the PCM to the new battery. Have you heard that conversation? Yeah, 643 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: So that's I've been talking about this about a year now. 644 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: So here's a classic example of it. All right, this 645 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: charging system is controlled by the bc M with a 646 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: signal through the east e M. There are six modes 647 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: of operation of this charging system. Battery sulfation mode to 648 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: control battery sulfation charge mode, fuel economy, headlamps, startup, and 649 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: voltage reduction. All right, This, this particular charging system, like 650 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: a lot of GM charging systems of this generation, all 651 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: work off a commanded duty cycle. Go to the front 652 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: door of your house. Okay, open the door all the 653 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: way on a one second count. That's one open and 654 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: closed the door all the way ten times in one second. 655 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: That's a change of duty cycle. You're still opening it up, 656 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: you're just opening it up more in that time frame. 657 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: That's a duty cycle. This charging system will go from 658 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: ten with a generator output of about eleven volts to 659 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: a command with a generator commanded output voltage of fifteen 660 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: and a half. The computer has taken over, baby. But Stephen, 661 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: your car is absolutely fine until it turns on the 662 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: check engine light and sets a fault code. I'm on 663 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: an any in the car, doctor. Mechanics are expensive to 664 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: priceless shest it s